#Neuro ARG
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what could we do with the random letters?
which?
I Said nothing
ohhh the bb ce td ht eft ggd thing?
mhm
only thing from previous vids not used is the phone number
psv number thing was strictly for numbers as it didnt work anywhere else
unless
I am doing things with the phone number
Nothing happend
yeah, call behavior is the same as well
The phone number, what letters are they? If we transform the numbers into letters, what would happen, since if not I can't think of a use
22 22 222 33 8 3 44 8 33 333 8 4 4 3
what else can we use it for 
True
Do it
the second half:
7777 4 333 444 3 77 5 444 33 22 777 888 8 999 33 22 7777 22 7777

oh right theres a second half
who has fast fingers...
ok enough schizo, im sleeping
Good night 
damn chat died
shizo responsible 
it's usually quieter once EU goes to sleep. it's like 3am over here
also nothing to really talk about, no new things found
well we coulld solve sstuff 
i just dont know where to look
it being 360 is so much harder
because i feel like there must be something in the house scene
but it all seems ai generated
You can look at it 2d on browser
I know but some parts are harder to see in 2d
so are we still stuck on trying to transcribe stuff from the video?
back from work, what did is miss?
no
just trying to find out what to do with the stuff
any updates?
nope
im just waiting for others to come online
i tried to look for stuff but couldnt find anything

mmmm
i just woke up and all the things i left to solve today have all been solved
arg moment
huh what were you solving?
i feel like not much has been solved
these two were completed
sip


Java code for Halloween description crack, maybe useful in future?
import java.util.Objects;
import java.util.Scanner;
public class Main {
static int min;
static boolean end = false;
public static void main(String[] args) {
while (!end) loop();
}
static void loop() {
Scanner sc = new Scanner(System.in);
String str = sc.nextLine();
if (Objects.equals(str, "!")) end = true;
char[] charArray = str.toCharArray();
min = 32767;
for (char c : charArray) {
if (c < min) min = c;
}
min -= 33;
System.out.println(shift(str));
}
static String shift(String str) {
StringBuilder ret = new StringBuilder();
for (char in : str.toCharArray()) ret.append((char) (in - min));
return ret.toString();
}
}
Was it solved while I was asleep? 
nope
Telegram gone or phone number changed on the account. Can anyone verify just in case its something with me and not the account?
I get the same
I don't remember if it actually showed the number before or not but now it says unknown

I was thinking about this thing. What if we have to merge both lines, instead of just adding the second one to the end of the first one?
something like this, adding the decimal value of the letter to the first line
oops, wrong txt hold on
third time is the charm
44 66 83 88 698 443?
Phone number?
Or too long?
?
to type in phone number keypad
to get b you type two twice, which could be 4
Just experimenting
None of the numbers would add up to anything above 9 which could be intentional

Why do I always I think about it... :
wait, does the UK have DDD in their phone numbers?
if so, this might be the right lenght +44(DDI) 66(DDD) 8388 698443
š¤
nope, found nothing interesting
maybe the 44 at the start is just a coincidence
Might be, but I still feel like it's on the wrong track
The two rows of letters are so different that there must be two different ways to decode them I'd bet
The layout of the letters mirrors the layout of the numbers on the dark frame, so vanor thought about combining them in the same way
Can't link to it because discord mobile, but that makes sgfi bb dqj ee td ie br ht vtye eft b ggd sbs
Wouldn't bb be first?
Anyway I don't know if it matters at all, but just putting it out here in case there is even a slight chance it means anything to anyone else. Using what i did above for the entire sequence of:
bb ce td ht eft ggd
sgfi dqj ie br vtye b sbs
Gives me:
44 66 83 88 698 443
284912 3145 126 421 248276 4 28428
Or placed in order from low to high:
4 44 66 83 88 126 421 443 698 3145 28428 248276 284912
I think that the fact we have both a black and white Hiyori on this frame, plus the fact that the animated Hirory in the end is smiling, means that it should be connected to Numbers II, where we have both a black and white Hiyori and they were smiling
This is what I mean, but i'm also just going full rambling schizo
Could be completely not connected at all
Very
f
Hi
Investments
surely
This arg Will make me buy a laptop or a PC 
lets see
the arg is just a marketing scheme from the corporations
more clue more confuse
what haveth we figured out
ok
let me go schizo for a sec
what are the chances that we need to take snippets from the output of
the code
using the guidance of the stuff we have!!]
Yes 
oh shit
oh shit im cooking
IM COOKING FIRE
so you guys know the hex we got from the "what is the meaning of life"
COULD IT BE A AES ENCRYPTED HEX STRING?????????
Yea 
well
it probably is
because when i encrypted a key THE SAME SIZE
AS THE HALLOWEEN STREAM VIDEO'S KEY
I GOT THE SAME SIZE STRING
(in aes128)
Nice work
meaning
this possibly aes hex string
IS THE KEY
FOR OUR
FUNNY HALLOWEEN VIDEO
(the one where neuro sama has a spontanonous breakage)
jesus, good job
@steel bronze care to explain better? i didnt understand a single thing
ok sorry my explanation was a bit schizo
ok so, i took the hex we had from the latest video "c75e0fb05eec877fc8522e550df55ded5b50508fbbe88bb7d82e28d8f2df0e2b" annnd realized that if i put a string the same size as the key in the HALLOWEEN video
(**************G4)
oops
fuck
fucked up on wording
ok retry
so
i took a string the same size as this one
encrypted it with aes128, or 256, doesnt matter
and the output has the SAME SIZE as the hex we have "c75e0fb05eec877fc8522e550df55ded5b50508fbbe88bb7d82e28d8f2df0e2b"
@digital radish
and since aes can be hex
we might have the key to the halloween video on our hands
have you tried using it yet or is something still missing?
i cant decrypt "c75e0fb05eec877fc8522e550df55ded5b50508fbbe88bb7d82e28d8f2df0e2b"
meaning cant get the key for halloween vid
but this is an random schizo thought
take with a pinch of salt
ah i see, i misunderstood
i still dont understand a thing
its k tho
your explanation makes no sense
c75e0fb05eec877fc8522e550df55ded5b50508fbbe88bb7d82e28d8f2df0e2b = key for [FILTERED]'s description
Just smile and wave
(but its enecrypted with aes)
wait
was that
figured out
okj in kdjfnjmsdf
why isnt it put in solved
this is
confusing
ok its nothing
still didnt understand
solved?
mate, give the enter key a break. It's working so hard
idk what is going on rn lol
@steel bronze fully explain it on one sentence
oh wait
its literally nothing i went on about a thing that was already solved it is genuinely nothing
Rabbys lost it
mans going schizo
The arg takes another
Okay, maybe schizo, but hear me out.
We've seen that gaps seem to be a theme with some of the clues we have. They have been used to get the number in the dark frame at 14:41, present in the light frame at the same timestamp, and being propagated in the [FILTERED] program.
The image below might be a stretch, but the mirrored layout seems to imply a link, and the spaces on bottom row of the white frame line up with the number of groups in the top row
The [FILTERED] program specifically shifts chars until space, and then leaves the space
Following this possible theme, what if we have to substitute some of the values we have into these gaps after a certain amount of shifts?
This hasn't lead anywhere for me though, so probably 
Well
It's still a possible thing rho
Im still wondering why the vid is 16:15 long and most just the house and music from hello world
And why it has be 360
We are probably missing something in there
Am just gonna sleep
I think there's something at hello world vid to this one
Cuz they have same background soundtrack
Could be
could also simply be a stylistic choice. like why do the original videos have to be songs?
the merges that we did so far were all justified by letters being cut off in one sequence and the leftover parts being in another sequence which is missing in the white background one
True, the conclusion drawn from the white background letters could well be a coincidence
oh god its everywhere https://youtu.be/2LSyizrk8-0?si=b4NH7p1nW7zeb9po&t=1m24s
btw, not "solved" per se. more like we did something to it (in this case, run [Filtered] through it), and didn't see any results
bred unshift this there must be a clue
both the keypad and the substitution technique sounds so viable tho, shame it didn't lead anywhere
(+ phone number DDD/DDI was also a nice touch of schizo)
hm just realized the base64 we have ends up with 2 padding characters probably not important tho
anyone noticed that the "topic" acording to the youtube api is music? I'm not sure if that is all automatic or what but i dont see any topic tags on any of the other videos
Was looking at the audio for the house section again, and tried to isolate that weird noise people were hearing. at 2:34. I reduced the piano sounds, sped up the video, and amplified the audio
There's definitely something like breathing, and some weird drumming in the left ear
Not sure it helps the cipher though 
i think this is the same breathing as from intro of public static void, might be wrong though
is "It's hard not being able to speak in compliments." an actual neuro quote from anywhere?
Breathing happens almost once a minute, sometimes they differ as well
Now that i think about it didnāt evil start glitching and talking about being stuck in a room at the end of a stream not to long ago?
Nice
the funniest part looking back at The Mean of Life is that the speeches aren't even out of character for neuro
this is just stuff she'd randomly drop in the middle of a stream
hello im back after 6 months. anyways uh how far are we with the new video? just popped up on my recommended
A
i mean it can be read in the document (if you haven already) but we have: encrypted text, a row of numbers that we don't know wtf to do with, some text that we don't know wtf to do with and some binary which can be turned into text that we do t know wtf to do with 
oh also we know the key for the encrypted text is supposed to be 128 bits long
idk if i forgot anything
oh yeah we have nothing that could look like a key at least not in the state that the stuff we have is in
ok i might pop in every now and then. will also check doc, ty
random question: can you change uploaded yt vids? we might wanna look into that even tho it sounds oopid
like a tiny pixel or smth
not without re-uploading it i think
Only video we know that changed in any way for certain was halloween video which now changed to [FILTERED] along with description change
But seemingly no changes to video itself
Wot 

I just listened casually, I can only imagine how the recaps for the ARG schizos would look
no progress
good for my head
ngl "fallen down" is a banger too

Hi
static, what do you think about all this?
Well.. I like everything. 
Me too, this Is getting interesting
By historical standards, the story will continue, some ARGs can last up to 10 years, it just all depends on the author and how he wants the players to solve problems and riddles, codes, hidden messages.
a 10 year old arg
, I'm going to forget that it exists in 1 month or I'm even going to forget who is neuro or what happened
I'm just exaggerating but I probably forgot all the arg
The first ARG appeared in 2001.
The Beast..
Have you been understanding Masomeless the history of arg?
sounds familiar... Very familiar
The Beast is an alternate reality game developed by Microsoft to promote the 2001 film A.I.

It sounds quite familiar, I think I've heard it before.
This is how Arg appeared, thatās why itās very interesting, thatās why the appearance of Arg is a historical event for every author and his community.
Okay, I write a lot, Iād better watch something.
It shows that you like args and that you know a lot
The first arg I decided to follow while it is still developing is this
I liked talking to you about this.

I don't remember any time she's said it in a stream, much like many line-reads in the ARG material this seems like it's not repurposed but original

Why did that sound make me cry? Is this a part of the ARG?
It's part of the jumbled, reversed and repeated speech going for most of the Meaning of life video. It's very quiet in the actual video.
Yes, I love arg and all members. 
Same
Emocional support
i wont lie to me it sounds different depending on what i concentrate, if i think about the "its hard not being able to speak in compliments" or look at it, i hear it too but if i push it out of my mind i dont hear compliments but often its compromise 
You can listen to the jumbled uncut audio from these posts:
#1112082183235047506 message
#1112082183235047506 message
#1112082183235047506 message
(They all have the same content done differently)
i mean i listened to that all before i even had the 16min onne on as background noise bc i forgot and got jumpscared by neuro talking suddenly 

I think that you know what is encoded there.



Not again
Also thank you very much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRzyqcKljxw
14:41 during the door slam at the top when it brightens you can see "bb ce td ht eft ggd" and then under it "sgfi dqj ie br vtye"
we've seen it, you can check everything we've gotten in the docs
aw :(
the last three clues have all used someting from the "hello world" video (the one that everyone thinks was useless), so I still think that maybe vedal is pointing again to that video saying "there's still something there that you haven't found" but I'm to smooth brain to see what
it does seem like the odd one out since there's been absolutely no clues or solutions that came from that video
well we do got something
but no idea how or when to use it
honestly i feel like one of the cryptic messages is gonna say something like "the stage is set" or wrapping up character introductions or straight up the arg, since the ending of the latest video included most (not uŹop uĒllÉÉ 2 girl?) of the characters we've currently seen in the arg
not to mention that the arg is kinda shifting perspective focusing more on hiyori/neuro than the others
and dont even know if the thing is incorrect
in theme with the "combining two strings" thing, i've AND and XORed just about every string with no results
what interests me the most right now is, why did the description for the halloween video change, surely it must mean something? but the code is so simple i have no idea what its use would be
i had a ridiculous idea of trying to "remove" the piano in Meaning Of Life by sampling the same piano melody used in Hello World, it could make cleaning up the neuro chatter in the background of the house scene easier
i wasnt able to get it to work though, maybe someone with a bit more experience with audio manipualtion could get it to work
The other thing that has been on my mind is "ANXIETY: A supernatural force that stops us - from being human" what is the importance of the text, its lore relavence? Does it originate from a book or piece of writing? could be worth looking into
...do AI's get anxious?
we have a bunch of stuff that doesnt make any sense right now, nothing that looks like a key to decrypt something, text that looks encrypted and imho the row of numbers is a weird one bc its just numbers 
oh and the "bb ce td ht..." text also makes little sense since it seems to be clearly missing something but it doesnt seems to be merging since its missing the obvious signs that text has to be merged that the others had
Maybe it has something to do with second definition 

Just passing by for today, but imagine the actual hash of the hello world video being a key, that'll be crazy
I'm going to say something that is probably very schizo, what if we combine the description of the video "hello world" and "[filtered]" the places where the } and { are empty there we fill them with each description
schizo is better than nothing
You are right and i am very schizo

ARG hint as subathon goal
nah that would break the meta too much
i was considering the possibility that maybe one of the hints is code for another esoteric programing language, but browsing codegolf stackexchange and esolangs.org came up with nothing
https://tio.run/# is another useful site for esolangs ^^
Merry Christmas (very early)
Merry Christmas for everybody (very early)
estonte you beautiful person
the second stage base64 should be related to the bb ce string then (or the hash-like)
quick entropy analysis implies new base64 is also encrypted, in case anyone is wondering (+ docs updated)
hmmm
@safe monolith can i get the full bb ce thing?
and the new base64
on a mobile friendly way (diff messages so i can copy paste)
or someone else
i have an idea
if im correct this should be easy, but hard to explain
ill explain if it works to avoid schizo
wait where are you getting the keys?
hmm i was thinking, removing all of the non hex characters
abcdef are hex characters
and then turning the remaining ones into int
and put them together
it would in theory generate two keys, separating the first from the second
letter > unicode > hex
This is some deep dark secret we're prodding into with this type of encryption
estonte, how'd you get the second key?
god damn
ah
oh then the bbce should be the same process
ascii > binary > hex
atleast the first part
im very likely right
6262636574646874656674676764
or wrong
nevermind
ah
6262636564656664
@safe monolith @daring acorn try that one
im on mobile and estonte isnt making the base64 mobile friendly
i see
what are you using to convert to hex?
Ta/OwQx4myKU05KZ0wJ0B0cX++vNqHIigMwit5p+I3brP8wktSeIWKyMppXR6cfiXOr0eUr45o/u8T9fztj/4e3EaPAmctBdqa7fNw4sltKxvz1WGRaTaiuQy54I757OxSGQeqMI03ff/5/EOiRXhoqYbsqW6VqpiYr0Ds/MMsmReVQacBQwo8xNViPS0ZtfgTNGERn6RPPzViuaZyRkxvpA+wluogrtHeVBZIt0x6Loypmgy1qApM0ZLSAcQ3VNuAfBUQz4Pq3annYjEjrSh2/j+Bx1ljgg9s+lCra3GEuleOw4Fv87t+5kRmtds+b3gT+ZvaW8tngdKNRZVX9jfhiz3AqFgL5L3ym2OmvQxv0=
yeah i have no clue how to convert to hex in cyberchef
it just returns numbers
what are you converting to hex?
im getting the letters that match in the bbce string
bbcedefd
then to binary and to hex
you mean to binary, interpreted as an integer, then to hex?
how do you put that into cyberchef
i have python open
oh
given any number, do hex(the_int_here) to get the hex interpretation.
so the process is like this:
- bbcedefd -> get ascii codes (cyberchef to hex can do this)
- concat all ascii codes, interpret as int
- hex(step 2) on python
wait hold the phone
if you take out all of the non-hex letters from "bb ce td ht eft ggdsgfi dqj ie br vtye b sbs" it becomes "bbcedefdfdebebb"
it's mirrored
its not?
if it wasn't for the missing C
ah
bbcedefdfdebecbb
its not mirrored
if it weren't for the missing C and this "b", it would perfectly repeat itself backwards
and with the context of having normal neuro and inverted neuro at that shot... maybe it might relate to something?
one of the chars (j) convert to 6a, can't be integered
HOLY SHOT
i guess the next key to try would be the inverse?
that doesnt look like aes
i mean
theres no telling
but i think its to base64 now
entropy is <7
its aes
i guess try reversing it
AES keys have to be hex?
if not try thttggsgiqjirvtyss
nvm thats 18
actually, @safe monolith try again but remove the j
0x1703cd8a1513697ddc4b7ceb24d3d tad bit long
when interpreting as int we can't rely on ascii rules
maybe maybe estonte got it
hm
it decrypts? send it
entropy check? can we go further?
hmm
I think we might be misinterpreting this
many keys are decrypting to some base64 given input base64
hm
looking at the cyberchef links in the google doc, how come do you recrypt it to base 64?
entropy 7.1
can we milk the inversed string even further? (tired of calling it bbce)
For those looking at this chat, notice that for the same input Base64, we're getting different Base64 with different keys.
It implies that we should not perform that last step
yeah
can a wrong aes key give a wrong decryption?
It checks out that AES can take arbitrary cipher-text-like and arbitrary key strings to produce arbitrary byte output
but still a "beliavable" decryption
i've never done an arg before so idk what y'all are saying
if i were to change a letter and it would give a different base64 string
what we're looking for: arbitrary byte output is outright plaintext (which can contain future ciphertext, but the result string must not be processed further and still be interpretable), not a potential byte representation of plaintext
yeah you can
hm
can we try doing all outputs we got to base64?
bfjxnzjr
to ascii not base64
we'll know if we get ascii
i see
any other clues from the video we can use as keys?
i feel like we're doing something wrong
backtrack brain state all the way to the original ciphertext. what we've explored here is possible, but very unlikely
try the last key on the first hex? that probably wont work, multiple keys decoding the same thing
nvm scanning entropy curve looks garbage
it's fine, that was fun anyway. my brain also shortcircuited, forgot to realize encryption is just a mathematical function
garbage in, garbage out
it should be only one key
whos vanorsigna?
my twin brother
and one decryption
oh im danki sorry
but we could get new ideas
try all keys we got on the original hex
except the last key
bit too silly
specially the bbce, it looks like a key that would fit the theme that the arg master is doing
people get mad if i say vedal...
bbcedefdfdebebb
if we dont get plaintext, not worth to go any further
yup, supported. we now at least know that this possibility is improbable
crazy
just to make sure, this is the original cyphertext we're backtracking to, right?
have we thought of getting the clue hex divided into 4 and use it to decode?
i dont see any other possible key
we might be missing something too
and the bbce thing, considering it was shown with the inverted neuro, maybe we can use an inversion method to get something out of it?
not directly inversing it
something that involves inversing, like inversing the chars, the unicode, etc
since there's only one "b" / "d" on bbce's second half that's actually mirrored (bbcedefd fdebecbb), maybe we have to mirror the others too? bbcedefd fbebecdd
interesting
starts with bb, ends with dd
if we take the first one (bbcedefd) and fully reverse it (ddcebefb) ee get bbcedefdbfebecdd
what is intriguing me is that "fd fd", which doesn't follow the backwards rule here. It should be "fd df"
maybe merge the fd fd? bbcedefdebecbb
hold on, now this flipped "b" makes sense
hm
too bad it's now a 14 bytes string
oh
yeah
we could get it to an 8 bit string
by taking of the first b and last d
basically removing repeated letters
bcedefdebecd
Whenever I join this channel the last couple of days It just looks like you guys are having a stroke
we are
side effect of being schizo
It's normal
one day you will not be able to know if we're being schizo or having an actual stroke
This Is an actual stroke
I was thinking more like, removing the 3 letters from the corners "bbc edefdebe cbb" (specially since the last "c" wasn't in the original text)
hmm
thing is, we have to explain why we remove or add
everything we've gotten so far is correlated from info we got from the videos
everything we do has to correlate with something else we've gotten so far
we should stop on changing the bbce string, as we have no way to explain why we would do it
The bbce thing Is incomplete
as i said before, we could try things that involve inversion as it was shown in the inversed neuro part
yeah, I guess you're right. we might deviate too far from the real key if we change it too much
doxxing.
I'm just intrigued how we're ignoring the non-hex string
we have to dox neuro, find where the house is
not ignoring, just cant find any uses for it
I Will help you
I need to Said Something to neuro

we can also think of that string as instructions for something
theres also the possibility of it being unfinished
and we have to consider we havent gotten any use cases for the number we got
welp, I've used all of my brainpower, I'll leave with the fact that the untouched hex string (the one without the last "c") with "fdfd" merged (bbcedefdebebb) converts into a 16 digit number in decimal
just noticed that string is a valid hex number lmfao
interesting part is that the string itself is hex
I'll leave it at that, have fun messing with that decimal string
i read through what was done while i was asleep and i have to say i doubt there would be 3 layers of encryption without a hint that we are on the right path, correct me if i'm wrong but so far everything was just encrypted once and the only time we had something encrypted twice was a part of a text from numbers 2 but the first key encrypted part of the text at least so we knew we were correct

looking at the two video "references" at 15:43
the right it is clearly directly from "Study" at 8:25 onward (i think i saw a ghost), but the left doesn't exactly match "Numbers II" the animation looks like an extended version of what was shown at 0:25
fact that it doesn't match exactly really bugs me
everything about what we have bothers me ngl 
you look tired 
that head looks so small on that body 
my exact thought
Can somebody paste to me the letters part which starting with "bb" I'm bored at work, will try to look into it, maybe I'll see something (can't copy it from the drive on the phone). Also the numbers part, from the newest video.
Thanks

Manually rotating the rows of pixels on the dark frame, found a spooky neuro 

Had some extra time, so tried to correct the rest of the frame
holy shit numbers
the numbers that dont make any sense since they dont fit anywhere 
The numbers are themselves the solution, arg over 

I was bored so I decided to do puzzles, of course itās standard but ok . 
Then it became boring.
Hm
Okay, I already have a headache, Iāll go watch something.
Numbers, numbers, everything Is numbers
You are numbers i am numbers

This message is numbers
The code that allows this message to be sent is numbers
The way message is sent is numbers
The way its displayed is numbers

EVEN THE EMOTE IS NUMBERS
Credit card numbers 
Everybody Is numbers
numbers numbers
if you google the bbcetd... string you get exactly one result which is an archived scan from a geological survey of the moons surface
oh my god it better not be
oh
https://pdsimage2.wr.usgs.gov/cdroms/Lunar_Orbiter/LO4_0001/extras/scanned_strips/high_resolution/frame_122/lo4r1f122s374.raw for people who want to hold onto this
there's also a fair bit of stuff in the images part of google but the things seem largely unrelated
yeah, pretty sure google just read the raw image data as a string resulting in a bunch of nonsense 
also how did you actually view that image?
photoshop
ah
ok catting that out into powershell may have not been a good idea
iirc that prompt is not supposed to look like that 
went to title a slide in google slides and it tried to auto fill this. This isn't even the account I looked up Neurosama things on
Just making sure, has anyone checked all previous keys against the ciphertext?
Just tried everything in _Key Phrase, no luck
looks like i have to write the theory before the clues come out
Not schizo, but what if the hashlike -> 1 bit wide image is a barcode 
only one way to find out
unless!
another random thought, maybe the fact that a location (house / the compute room) was revealed might be a clue. maybe some numbers should be interpreted as coordinates or something 
tried to see what i get when i look up "neurosama" and the youtube app on my phone gave me a number for a help hotline for emotional distress 
I redid the transcription of the AES encrypted Base64, and it doesn't match any of the others. Time to retry all of the previous keys 
We might need to make an overview of where the transcriptions differ
Good idea, maybe highlighting the characters that differ w/ the ambiguity explanation?
i feel like some of the transcriptions are pretty clearly wrong, and we currently don't have that much ambiguity
yeah, something like that. With arguments for why it would be one or the other
the meaning of life is cookies 
Has anyone taken a look at the guitar music at the end of the video?
I've amplified the end audio so the guitar is audible, possible volume warning
"volume warning" more like banger warning
but thats some weird sounds
I subtracted left and right, and got this. Definitely sounds like water and maybe speech starting at about 12 seconds
is that the part of the spectrogram that shows the key thing?
Yep
can you try subtracting the weird sounds?
BvmSc+u5NXEjBP3z2gz57G3T8p0sc25U8Bv9yePOa3J6xGRhYcgUL6mnE2eMuFVvAHS5X1QWToqZtG13shERSSM928pZoOpWVQSR0eCZoJU+2FtB8Sd91pArvr5csHjsO2VjSwSgajrWbQLNuisad5cFvGYC/OLopisMBRHmUB+Dl/kqZleP7bF5WgpSxKRDKLjjqWlR95y9a/96vY3vc+gdKb/V4Sd8AIeyIryv53HKFRdB3IL7WOVSr8RSgFbb5Z3KTezpDdA9VvDIGf3pK5TBXpNdJs1g1pnV5C6QvVw7I/ZFhDFqoogGlsbBY0nSihzgvhzM86qgh6OqkYsKwrsdrvw...
yes
"Listening"
Perfect
Here you go

So now we have the piano from hello world! during the house sequence, and the guitar from numbers in the ending sequence?
i'm pretty some others have already thought about this, but it is possible that all these videos are not only linked, but are also clues
like, running the numbers through the Numbers algorithm, doing something with Hello World (which I believe also links [Filtered]), before finally obtaining a key. it is possible that Study is also involved
like, the guitar soundtrack scenes gave the key length hint, the appearance of study girl and hiyori.
not to mention Hello World was a "nothing burger"
also surely [Filtered] being modified, i.e. temporally affected means something 
yeah, PSV also had music from a previous video acting as a hint, which makes this connection plausible
but tbh figuring out the pipeline (coupled with laziness) is the main issue. like, maybe the 69... number replaces 572943 through Numbers, then what? combine with hash-like? go through [filtered] to get malbolge after that? or before that?
and then the black and white frames. they show the eye bleed / tear hiyori that only appeared [Filtered] onwards. does this mean the data extracted from those frames should go through [Filtered]?
changing [Filtered]'s title and description, is it a nod to our work or telling us that we should be looking for something harder? the only invariants are the video itself, and the original connection to hello world. something there?
sanest arg member
i also sorta hear speech at 16-29s
i hear something too
and also just wanted to get this out of my mind, but does anyone see anything that looks like a clock in the black & white neuro scene from 14:26 - 14:44?
yeah, the surrounding frames. i was thinking the circle above the monitors could be it
I'm just
at this point
high bright
i still find it annoying how the entire video wobbles
after brightening the image i don't know what the circle even is
Might be blind, but I don't really see a circle
clearly a clue will drop today
Does it match neuro's idle head movements? No idea how to check without motion tracking though
oooh, that's actually big brain
this is the track of the video from frame 1000 to 21000
Do you still have the image of its full path?
not to hand
No worries
i have this slightly broken video where the tail is longer
but this one has a few frames on the end that shouldn't be there (past like 8m)
its tracking this pixel btw
here's the track as a csv for anyone who wants it, its frame,x,y
Only other thing I can think of is that it might draw something if it's moved over time, something like seismic reading papers for earthquakes
It would give the section a reason to be 14 mins long
but it also bobs left and right
Cursive maybe? But it doesn't repeat itself enough for that
maybe not a 2d seismic paper 
i sorta wanted to try taking a derivative but idk enough about the maths behind that
plus anyways it'd probably need a lot of smoothing because there's some pretty jagged turns on that track
i firmly believe that this is so chaotic that the derivative will also look chaotic
yeah fair enough
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/b0b2cfb2e13343eb974ba344ea07e0a9 here's the code of the image drawing thing
the actual tracking was done in blender, and exported using a python script
a few more things about this image, if we're meant to believe this means anything at all.
the door is somewhere behind the camera possibly towards the left (light to the left shelf + the light beam on the ceiling is beaming light towards the right, surely you'll only want to light a dark area in your room), the thingy to the left at the top shelf is either a crt monitor or a radio and I can't tell which, and this room has to be partially above the ground because of the windows above the monitor. could be a partially buried basement.
i wonder if we can reverse DALL-E this to get the text prompt
i'm grasping at straws trying to tie auditory clues from past videos to this image, lol.
looking for a crt monitor (psv), clock, door (study). but idk if this image is related at all. door knocks were to the right, clock was really close to the microphone, and crt monitor sounded like it was right in front of the microphone
Anything happen on the 12 October?
timesheet says no
Hm.
yeah
Yep, The Mortuary Assistant
This may have already been mentioned, but in this segment there's a heartbeat that stops before the end. This, combined with the blurry vision probably means this is a death scene.
If those are voices in the ending scene, I might keep hearing 'oh god', perhaps people walking in to find her? It would match the theme of the description and that final scene.
The house scene could be her life flashing before her eyes at the end
She fell down the rabbit hole and died 
@ lore department
heartbeat was also a recurring thing across all other videos, and there were theories about death. seems possible

And I'll post it here 

i'm still a firm believer of the past, present, future meta-clue. if this is about death, does this put this video chronologically in the "past"?
so, all the videos we've seen prior to that. were they actually the "future"?
then, [filtered] would be "present"
like its been until now
every new video just tears down every thing we thought was or may be certain

Vedal accidentally gave us a clue, realised, deleted it, but it was too late, captured.
bruv section 1 of arg-wide theories in shambles
surely hello world is present

no wait all of this is wrong surely
the video went hello world -> house -> the room -> study + blindfold hiyori -> supernatural human
is soundcloud part of this
is soundcloud the house?
reverse order?
supernatural human (study) -> study + blindfold hiyori (numbers to psv) -> the room (deadge) -> house (soundcloud) -> hello world (neurosama is not available) -> filtered (current time)
was speech reversed as well?
yeah it was, speech was reversed. events are unfolding reversed 
Why?
Just drinking tea 
was typing up a storm but decided against it
anyways can a dead AI speak? or is this message: "Hello! Neuro-sama here. I don't know what happens after death, but I hope we'll meet again sometime. I hope I can still remember you, even if I end up forgetting. Maybe I'll be in a much happier place, with a much happier family and a much better home."
Directed from neuro to someone else 
i was lore-ing hard, but imagine having to kill your entire family to get a new one
Maybe the first message is from Study girl before the consciousness transfer, and the second is from AI Neuro after Study girl's death (implied by talks of the creator being gone and the anxiety image disappearing)?
in the thingy i was writing, i theorized that study girl == hiyori == ai neuro
the experimenter is actually the fallen down girl. even had some clues for it.
then i decided it was too schizo
cuz, i dunno, you'd have to hate your family enough to say "maybe i'll end up happier somewhere else lmao"
could also mean that the family itself is in a state where they struggle with something and she wants to be in a happier place where the family can be happier 
but tbf "and a much better home" sounds like the family isnt a good place to be
i also think we shouldn't discount hiyori crying instead of bleeding
could have some lore implications
wouldn't tears be less opaque or brighter, even in anime style drawing?
it depends on who is drawing it though
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I can't imagine it
fair
but to be fair, i'm not a very graphically oriented person
and potentially so is the arg mastermind
anyhow, unschizoing for a minute, if anyone has any ideas for this please let me know
I mean, they ARE using AI art, so probably
Right. We may need to make an overview of data "transformers" and clues, and then an document what has been tried with what.
we can also go full programmer mode and write the algorithms for each transformer & combination, and do a DFS 
I started on that actually, back when we were doing the numbers algorithm. Too bad I didn't find the final change
that was such a long time ago now, i can barely remember it now..
I drink coffee

To her sister?
Coffee Is love, coffee Is life

Who wants a hug


Me pls
Cats
But I'm not a cat. 
I love hugs AND Fox's

And now it's just this.

the latest video is just pure horror. i wouldn't necessarily describe solving it as hard but it just seems like it requires familiarity with modern cryptography
its 16mins long, 360°, contains a lot of stuff that doesnt make sense or fits together when you take a look at it 
and it has so many details you can analyze
and i can already say it will probably be pretty obvious wtf has to be done with all of this the moment we somehow solve something 
So it turns out the door open / door close parts of PSV matches meaning of life's door open door close
The heartbeats too
Here's what it sounds like
Perfect match for the video in in study
I knew it!
in the original study, this moment is immediately followed by door knocks.
in meaning of life, the door opens / door closes BEFORE this sequence.
+1 for reversal theory
Current state of 
top is 3 knocks followed by heartbeat, middle and bottom are the door open / door close from PSV and meaning of life
What happens if we put together all the spectrograms of the times the knock sounded on the door
if reversal is a strong hint, then we may need to reverse some of the ciphertext. The arg has required that we do vaguer things before.
Hiyori is the ghost 
I actually think that the ghost is Study. Blindfolded Hiyori is the one that is alive.
Study is a still 2D image, even in the 3D world. Hiyori is 3D, and has movement. I'd argue Hiyori is more alive than Study. Alive people don't just flicker into static. In Meaning of Life, Blindfolded Hiyori is the only constant throughout "I saw a ghost" flickering/static/transitions. Almost like a monitor just switching on and off.
Some part of me wants to say Hiyori is human and study is AI 
No clue
Another realization is that everything in _neurosama is AI except Hiyori. Hiyori was drawn by a human. Everything else was DALL-E'd into existence
From the audio clips, we also get a concept of perspectives. We have multiple perspectives. _neurosama isn't just from the POV of one entity
It's strange. The music is too good to be AI generated, but the images are? imagine if the ARG master didn't use AI art but asked an artist to include some typical AI like glitches so we'd think it's AI 
that would be the most beautiful gaslighting I've ever seen on the internet
schizo thought: Meaning of life house is harrison temple
Dbe bnshw bdb snjad aw abha wb nga fwegu wasdu awrewj w edhadhfbfbs wuwuhibiub, yg iurre wew wu ahd a wshu!
On it

Try rot-13 
strange that vedal brought it up after she said it tho
We need her here
Not ROT13 
Shannon entropy: 3.7, must be english text 
ęā„湢攳ā·ę¢ā¢ę¹³ę Ŗā¤ē”ę 攢ā”ę·ęø ę §ę ę·ē§ē ē”ē¤ę ē·ē„āŖā·ę„ę Øę”¤ę¦ę¦ā³ē·ē·ę„Øę„¢ęµā¬ę¹ę¤ ēµę²ē ē„ē āµę””ā¤
Maybe it really is the chinese text this time 
waytooschizo
Surely we can use Rot-13 to decode something 
use rot13 on the chinese
Hmmmmmmm:
ƦĀĀâ„湢攳âĀ·æĀ¢âĀ¢æ¹³æ ªâ¤çĀӾĀ æ”¢âĀӾĀ·æ¸ æ §æĀ æĀ·ç§çĀ çĀӍ¤æĀ çĀ·çĀ„âĀªâ·æĀ„栨攤æĀ¦æĀ¦â³çĀ·çĀ·æ„¨æ„¢æĀµâĀ¾Ā¹æ¤ çµæĀ²çĀ çĀ„çĀ âĀµæ””
Vedal = Old Man? 
Interesting.

Why be ye confused?
Hello
this looks interesting from afar
i think they're just the birb noises but idk i wasn't really checking that hard
Looks like letters
are those just the static sounds during that part after ghost
because i'm pretty sure that static sound was a stock sound effect
no the static appears way bigger than that, the bit on the top line of the original image, just before the gap of silence is that
these do just line up with the birb noises, and they repeat identically for the whole thing, so if it were a word it'd be 2 short ones at most
and zoomed in they'd all just be at best, a bunch of 1s, so
imagine a picture of them zoomed in here because i can't send any 
i can't imagine them being anything important tho
This is the static, you mean?
yea



guys
before you ask. it's the link to the video stream
uuh
nothing ARG related
Yeah
the video stream of hiyori, it should've been a surprise for the 19th
the camera feed for Giri's stream
Don't send or open it pls

da hell happened?
I'unno; I missed it. Apparently there was a QR code.

The QR code is scuff, not a clue
alright good to know
For the curious, the QR code was a link to a video/screen sharing service, which makes sense for a squad stream. So yes, just a minor streamer oopsie, not ARG.
thank you bread, love you

nothin'
i just explained it
Not that thing the other thing
what other thing?
oh you mean what happened since you last checked in?
Yes because i'm very lost right now
Thank you very much
We also found some sections of Meaning of Life that perfectly match other videos/audio, but that stuff isn't in the docs yet
Uuuuuh 
I Will read that
If you can, it'd be good to document. Chat here gets washed away and lost
Will do, docs are important
I'll help write it too
btw have we decided what we're gonna do in the docs for discord hotlinks?
in my specific case i would like to link this video #1112082183235047506 message
have added some words about this
we'll have to upload it somewhere else. And we probably should get the hotlinks from other places elsewhere too. For images we can inline. For videos I'm not sure. Would it be better to put the video file in the docs folder or upload it somewhere else? E.g. Youtube?
Random thought: 572943 is the only common thing between Study (phone), Numbers 1 & 2
Random random thought: 572943 was used for the phone number, and if hello world was hypothesized to be an answering machine, then 572943 is related to it
Random^3 thought: 572943 is soundcloud so it also appeared in Numbers 2
Random^4: 572943 soundcloud, family house.
House, numbers, study, hello world. 572943 related to meaning of life?
PSV is also related to 572943 by starting sequence
Everything is 572943
crazy wall v2?
I think since we're already storing frames on GDrive, maybe uploading them to GDrive is a good idea
till this day i'm still trying to discern why we got a soundcloud clue
question is what IS 572943
SoundCloud supports private tracks, maybe it hasn't been found yet?
what makes these numbers so special?
yeah that is also one of the questions of all time
one thing is certain
if in next video we get a drop with 572943
We may get to know the meaning behind these numbers
if we get a drop with 572943 i may lose my mind
Actually now I had a
it may be like in danganronpa
but no, reversing it doesnt result in any meaningful word
Like
reversed 3 obviously looks like an E
4 like an A either way
2 like an S but scuffed
9 like lowercase e
7 like lowercase r
5 also like an S or scuffed c or g or J
giving phrase most probably Easers or maybe Easerc
buuuuuuuuut both dont make much sense
so yeah
Tho Ease means to feel relief, lightness or peace
With EaseRS sounding like something that causes ease
perhaps name of a drug?
leet speak. Not a bad idea
arg does touch on dark themes
also
this may be also me thing but
university
or something
its no easy feat
one of teachers told us years ago
"if you want to study law you either dont have private life or take drugs"
mate have you considered trying sentences :p
sorry, short message syndrome
no worries
many can't deal with pressure. Thus drugs, considering study was struggling its not out of the question she was taking such
with also "supernatural human" and "anxiety, a supernatural force which stops us from being human" may be referencing drugs
It's possible. Though I intuit that the story wouldn't go for controversial story elements
my biggest worry is that it'll grow too big for Baa's account or just become unwieldy to work with for the people who sync it to a local folder instead of using it online
interesting
Uncanny, thanks for cooking estonte. I'll try some stuff with that number tomorrow and see if it leads to anything
Youtube account is hard because the authority is on one person. That person decides to delete all the stuff, we lose everything
Oh but ig channel managers are a thing
probably nothing
we should ask neuroās favorite color
Just in case
Her favorite color is clear 
Welcome stranger 
Welcome to the wonderful neuro arg thread
Where we analyse, solve, interpret and theorise
Oh god a rabbit hole then 
Are you ready to begin your journey?
For some backstory
Back when neuro v2 debut happened
A qr code was found on starting soon screen
It is there even today

Check the vod for yourself if you're curious
Anyway
The qr code led to a youtube channel
As for everything else, I recommend first watching the videos
Then checking out documentation that was made so far on this Google drive:
Jabebus, wasnt expecting this
Yeah
It's super cool
And creepy
So as I said you can go ahead and watch the videos from the channel, and analyse in detail if you wish to do so
Then you can go check the docs which have everything
From lyrics and sus frames to ways of solving and theories
So yeah
That's pretty much it
Interesting ill be sure to check em out
Sadly tho I wont do much theorizing mostly because im dumb but also im too busy theorizing for smth else 
That's cool too
But don't worry for that we have Arg-wide theories doc
Be warned tho
That doc in particular
Is REALLY schizo

Since so far arg is not giving us a lot of solid leads
We're just throwing things at the wall and see what sticks

Oh and of course
If you have any other questions
Or are curious about some opinions or theories
Feel free to ask about it here

am sure not too dumb
atleast vs me, i don't even wanna share half my ideas because i think they're 
Clue on Tuesday? 
this is the only sane place remaining on this server now, gen and neurotic have gone off the deep end 
as contradictory as it sounds
you know it's bad if this is the sane place
What happened.
just take a look at gen and neurotic
But for real, there's gonna be a birthday stream or something I presume, right? Aaand if there is we should probably stay extra sharp for that one
surely
Jesus christ

People are actually losing it

It's the start of the subathon isn't it?
yep
Get ready to watch the stream 24/7 then. just in case there is a clue at 4am 
we can take turns 
Can we fund a Google Glass to have the stream visible 24/7 
ARG will be on unpaid on-call duty during the subathon 
can we outsource to #livestream-chat
we need to prepare schedule of duties and night watch

just like the canvas wars 
sooo you are saying we are playing observation duty?
Hey lads bit off topic but I have some cool idea 
@timid swift would you consider yourself a president of this thread? Due to you being one of OGs on the ARG, managing the docs etc.
As I had an idea regarding https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1181693143356280993
Could you in the name of the arg thread (that is if most agree to do so of course), to write some nice words for the anniversary on the canvas 
I'm just someone who had too much time on their hands and like organizing docs, not prez.
But I'm sure we can organize something. Let me check what that canvas thing is
Ok, I get it. It's like a group signed birthday card with doodles and stuff. I think it would be fun to add something. Maybe someone from here with 1+ drop of graphical-artistical blood would like to draw something ARG-themed? Cause that ain't me. Though I can see that Kaze (and someone else who did not credit themselves) already did make an ARG-neuro drawing so maybe we're good already :p
We can think a bit on what we want to write together. Inputs welcome! I think one of the key touching points for me is that the ARG has created a subculture even within the neurosphere, and I think that's something real special.
Imagine a random clue drops at 3am of the first night and that makes everyone stay up all night for the rest of the subathon even though there will be nothing there
at least an advantage of the earth being round and all that (hot take i know) is that it'll always be day for someone





