#Neuro ARG

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distant girder
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i think

abstract horizon
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Nothing yet

stone geyser
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if only it was 16 characters

distant girder
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2 too long

tawny pasture
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Cool, new number sequence

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People really don't seem that thrilled about finding new things nowadays...

stone geyser
tawny pasture
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Hello!

stone geyser
tawny pasture
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Fair, but I'd say the discovery itself is an achievement, right?

stone geyser
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true

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i wasnt there when it happened

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probably a bit of a bigger reaction

tawny pasture
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Might be a false positive, but CyberChef suggested this

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...6 December?

safe monolith
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nanoseconds accuracy neurOMEGALUL

tawny pasture
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I just plugged the numbers in and looked at what it suggested

abstract horizon
tawny pasture
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It's probably nothing, but it's coincidental that the date is also December

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...Or is it?

abstract horizon
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What Will happend

wind sundial
tawny pasture
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Here's the thing, why would 1991 be there

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That's what's making me think this is a false positive

abstract horizon
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Happy birthday missing Sister, yey!

stone geyser
tawny pasture
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Maybe 1991 is a date that's noteworthy in some other way?

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Again though, it's probably just a false positive.

abstract horizon
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we still cannot rule out any theory, for now

stone geyser
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put it somewhere on the doc

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just incase

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cause it is interesting

tawny pasture
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1991 was 32 years ago at this point, so not sure what it could be

tawny pasture
wind sundial
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The creation of the first ever webpage

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Not in dec 6 though

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But in 1991

stone geyser
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slight feeling it doesnt have anything to do with this lmfao

wind sundial
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August 6: The first ever website, info.cern.ch, is created by Tim Berners-Lee

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Interesting

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In 1991

fading cipher
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cold war ended in 1991 neurOMEGALUL

stone geyser
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Star Trek VI-Undiscovered premiered??? not much happened that day

stone geyser
abstract horizon
hollow garnet
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sick ass skeleton

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or something idk

stone geyser
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where is the skeleton

abstract horizon
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I could create a theory that the arg is connected to my cold war

safe monolith
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maybe neuro-sama's signature NeuroClueless

abstract horizon
hollow garnet
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truly art

fading cipher
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still why did we get video in 360

stone geyser
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no clue

safe monolith
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anyways I've tried fitting each digit in between the gaps of ascii(bb... text) in all sorts of ways and netted nothing

abstract horizon
safe monolith
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also did a little schizo and prefixed all of the numbers with '6' or '7' to force an ascii, also netted not much

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also tried a combination of the two

abstract horizon
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I will send phrases to the phone number to see what happens (spoiler: nothing is going to happen)

safe monolith
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66 69 62 60 64 68 65 60 61 62 65 68 69 64 69 62 60 61

is "fib`dhe`abehidib`a"

When trying to achieve pure ascii,

66 69 62 70 64 68 65 70 61 62 65 68 69 64 69 62 70 61

gives "fibpdhepabehidibpa"

running on a trail with no evidence, so now i'm clueless

fading cipher
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also i have a filling we miss something in 14~ first minutes

wind sundial
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Which is different from most of the other vids since they're just songs

safe monolith
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also tried running [Filtered] program over 692048501258949201 but in bytes encoded in UTF-16 (cuz it doesn't result in valid UTF-8), also nothing

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also hashed all of my results to see no matches

fading cipher
stone geyser
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yeah we checked it out

tawny pasture
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Someone just told me it was shading

stone geyser
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pretty sure it is just ai generated nonsense

fading cipher
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oh ok, just didnt see anything about it in the doc

abstract horizon
crystal urchin
stone geyser
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no it isnt

distant girder
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i second that

stone geyser
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here is the isolated audio if you want it (made by h3lp)

tawny pasture
stone geyser
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oh

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who isolated it then

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fixed

safe monolith
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btw interpreting 692048501258949201 as an int then printing hex for that results in 8 bytes: 99 aa 67 1f ce 19 25 01

am i pushing it? NeuroClueless

abstract horizon
crystal urchin
wind sundial
abstract horizon
stone geyser
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it wasnt reversed

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and it wasnt him

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it was h3lp

fading cipher
stone geyser
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yeah those are fake letters lmfao

abstract horizon
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In the audio while we look at the surrounding houses, neuro sama says: It's hard to tell
I think I have fallen down this rabbit hole
I think I have
I think I've hurt myself
I can't seem to get out of this rabbit hole
I figured it out
or something similar

stone geyser
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its on doc

abstract horizon
stone geyser
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oh wait thats what you took it off

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mb

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i wrote that!1!

abstract horizon
dapper wraith
abstract horizon
stone geyser
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i was focused on the voices.. there are piano sounds???

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my brain is fried

abstract horizon
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very good job for everyone

abstract horizon
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You can actually hear the piano quite a bit and now that I've heard it again, it feels like it's reversed

tawny pasture
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I don't think there's anything going on with the piano

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Though maybe there is

abstract horizon
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If we turn it around and use a spectrogram, what will happen? NeuroHuh

stone geyser
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every time i hear piano i think of the stupid theory someone made where they said the morse code thing was actually a piano 😭

stone geyser
abstract horizon
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I Will stay in silence for now

tawny pasture
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Hang on a minute

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It's not in reverse

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This bloody

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The piano also isn't in reverse.

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It's the voice isolation.

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Watch the video.

abstract horizon
stone geyser
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WAIT YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT

tawny pasture
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WAIT

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Hang on

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Maybe the voices are in reverse and the audio was reversed?

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Maybe someone forgot to mention it was reversed?

tawny pasture
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The video itself sounds fine, but in that isolation, it sounds reversed

stone geyser
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do you think the static means anything at all?

tawny pasture
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If you listen to the birds here and compare it to the video, it's in reverse

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The chirping isn't in reverse in the video

abstract horizon
stone geyser
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ahh okay, new to this arg mb

tawny pasture
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The image that comes after

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It comes before the image disappears, the knocking on the door and the heavy breaths come after, I think

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No wonder I couldn't get the voices clear by my own means, it was all in reverse...

dapper wraith
tawny pasture
abstract horizon
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The video Is in reversed (joke)

stone geyser
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NO ITS BECAUSE THE AUDIO IN THE VIDEO IS SPLIT INTO EACH EAR AND THE ISOLATION MERGED IT

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im so smart

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!!!

dapper wraith
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I know that the piano is the not reversed in the video itself

stone geyser
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we just need to get h3lp in here to clarify that ig

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hopefully they are free at some point and come into the chat

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doesn't really matter anyway, got the audio, all that was needed

dapper wraith
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it was 100% reversed by them. like I said you can clearly it on the rolloff (or whatever the sound is called after the sound of string getting hit) on the piano. normal is the hit and rolloff. the clip has rolloff and hit.

tawny pasture
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Going to reverse it and then try to isolate the vocals

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I'll see if that helps

stone geyser
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it doesnt matter dead

tawny pasture
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I want to see if I can get it to sound clearer than h3lp's attempt

stone geyser
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yeah cause some parts did get cut out

gritty thorn
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Neuro's audio on the original video did seem to be reversed, so the audible isolated version might've been reversed

tawny pasture
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I swear, this vocal isolation is isolating the birds chirping more than the voices.

dapper wraith
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add a low pass filter with like 3.5kHz or 4kHz cutoff to remove the birds first

inland spindle
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guys i don't know if i'm just schizo so could anyone check the video from 2:34-2:50 if they hear anything unusual there?

stone geyser
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did i just hear a footstep

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i think im going schizo aswell

inland spindle
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yea it's like the same as in public static world i think

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but a lot quiter

stone geyser
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yeah it was very quite

tawny pasture
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I'm amplifying it as much as I can for myself

stone geyser
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i havent listened to the original audio that much so i dont know how it really sounds

gritty thorn
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yes, just checking, Neuro's audio on the original video is definitely reversed

dapper wraith
gritty thorn
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also, youtube's algorithm seems to like this video neurOMEGALUL

inland spindle
tawny pasture
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It does, yeah

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It was on top of the recommended videos as well for some

stone geyser
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i feel like we havent found a single thing in the outside area yet, it feels like we are missing something there but i cant find anything

inland spindle
gritty thorn
stone geyser
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but what does that tell us?

inland spindle
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i think that arg master just threw some random stuff in to make it harder to isolate and just took a sample that he used before and had already saved

gritty thorn
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~~Neuro ear blowing ASMR evilflooshed ~~

tawny pasture
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I still have to wonder what the significance of this image is

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...Wait

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WAIT

fading cipher
gritty thorn
tawny pasture
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"I think I saw a ghost"

gritty thorn
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also, the static is different, no?

tawny pasture
gritty thorn
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like, I don't remember seeing this

tawny pasture
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Where's that?

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The right side?

gritty thorn
tawny pasture
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I think that was there before

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One moment

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Here's the brightened image

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It was there last time

stone geyser
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so its the same?

tawny pasture
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Seems to be, yeah

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Let me get the unedited version as well

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I do want to look at this idea though
"I think I saw a ghost that day"

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Especially with how she disappears first and the lyrics cut off in Study...

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I feel like it's connected

gritty thorn
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hold on, this video references every single other video about the ARG

tawny pasture
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It does, I think

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It references everything we've seen while adding many things we haven't

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Study, Numbers, Numbers II, hello world, public static void(?), the newest video

gritty thorn
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after that, the "Study" part

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it began with the "Hello world" song

tawny pasture
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"I think I saw a gho-"

gritty thorn
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oh yeah, and the Bloody eyes Hiyori from [Filtered]

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so yeah, every video is being brought up in this one

tawny pasture
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We also had inverted Neuro in the white background

abstract horizon
tawny pasture
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Hard to see because it's the inverted Neuro on an inverted background.

safe monolith
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a little of schizo before i hit the hay (hopefully not permanently):

bb ce td ht eft ggd           
   sgfi dqj ie br vtye b sbs

I tried two more things. First, following the video's theme of merging stuff from different rows together, I merged the second line with the first line like that:

sgfi bb dqj ee td ie br ht vtye eft b ggd sbs. When converted from base64 and then reinterpreted as hex, I get this: b207e26db76a8de7ad76279bae1b6fb7279e7ed6e081db1b. With this: 99aa671fce192501, which is 692048501258949201 but interpreted as an integer and then converted to hex, I can concatenate in two ways that create 32 bytes (256bits) of information:

b207e26db76a8de7ad76279bae1b6fb7279e7ed6e081db1b99aa671fce192501
99aa671fce192501b207e26db76a8de7ad76279bae1b6fb7279e7ed6e081db1b

of course, none of them matches anything pre- and post hash, so this is probably a dead-end NeuroClueless

Second is an observation, but I realized that the overlapping regions of:

bb ce td ht eft ggd           
   sgfi dqj ie br vtye b sbs

has 16 characters, which might be what we need. If we follow the video's theme of shifting stuff around, maybe there's an operation we can do within the overlapping regions. I tried XOR at one point, but of course that wouldn't work because it would XOR the top nibble

safe monolith
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hi jackx, long time no see NeuroClueless

abstract horizon
gritty thorn
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everything that lead to this was separated in 2

digital radish
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does anyone have all frames of the code?

abstract horizon
digital radish
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im sure someone put it in cyberchef already

safe monolith
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i personally tried rot-13, 47, and vignere. more importantly, we ran it through the [filtered] program, so that should already cover most rots

digital radish
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it might be apart of a key tho

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if someone can give all frames of the number that is shown with the white neuro i can take a look at it

safe monolith
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check the docs, i think they should be there

digital radish
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my phone crashes in google docs...

safe monolith
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i gotchu, one sec

digital radish
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tyty

slim gulch
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i was gonna make a joke about this image

tawny pasture
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I wonder what this could mean NeuroClueless

safe monolith
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@digital radish ^

digital radish
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oh i meant the code

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uhhhh

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cant find the message because discord mobile sucks

uncut cargo
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HOLY THOERY CRAFTING

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2 and half an hour

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jesus christ

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and I didnt even write that much

dapper wraith
digital radish
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14:41

safe monolith
digital radish
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all frames of that code

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yes

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i want to see something

hollow garnet
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theres like 2 frames

safe monolith
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nodders ^

digital radish
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then those 2 frames

tawny pasture
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Wait, this program is just a ROT cipher decoder set to a certain setting

digital radish
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no

hollow garnet
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yeah gimme a minute lol

tawny pasture
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It's different

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But it seems to do the same sort of thing

digital radish
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its not rot...

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theres infinite ROT sequences

tawny pasture
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Here's what I got

digital radish
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rot 13 and rot 47 are the most used

hollow garnet
safe monolith
hollow garnet
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the two are slightly different

digital radish
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because a ROT cipher is just rotating

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ty

tawny pasture
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Yep

digital radish
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huh

tawny pasture
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But that's what the program is

hollow garnet
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yeah but rot13 and rot47 use different alphabets dont they

digital radish
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its way more clearer in vr?

stone geyser
tawny pasture
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It's a ROT decipherer

digital radish
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thats weird

tawny pasture
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That's what the program is.

timid swift
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it's not a conventional ROT algorithm

tawny pasture
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It's on a certain setting.

stone geyser
timid swift
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look at how it halts on spaces. It's destructive

safe monolith
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yep. nevertheless i did try on both rots just in case

digital radish
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guys, maybe take screenshots from the 360 version, you can see the numbers way better

safe monolith
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unless my eyes decieve me (which they do often), there isn't anything noteworthy

digital radish
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i remember the last one being a 9

hollow garnet
safe monolith
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like, the 360 version is this 4k version but wrapped

digital radish
tawny pasture
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It's rotating the letters on a certain setting

hollow garnet
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i also tried doing the difference but that didn't do much

digital radish
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just add both, subtract the difference

safe monolith
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what're we doing again

hollow garnet
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what?

safe monolith
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i thought we recovered the numbers?

timid swift
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agreed, we have that portion at least

digital radish
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numbers are probably right

hollow garnet
digital radish
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i just wanna confirm it

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because i saw the last number being 9

tawny pasture
timid swift
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nine?

tawny pasture
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I wonder if that will be important...

digital radish
tawny pasture
digital radish
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take b as a unicode, if b is 2, the program subtracts one making it one

timid swift
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that is correct

tawny pasture
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It doesn't go from ROT 1

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It starts at 77

digital radish
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.

safe monolith
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Brit, you may want to check program output

tawny pasture
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I did

abstract horizon
digital radish
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i literally explained the function of the python program

dapper wraith
digital radish
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3 people, experts in python, checked the code

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b - 1 = a

timid swift
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I hope you're not counting me as a python expert neurowheeze

safe monolith
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python expert modCheck

tawny pasture
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Okay, so it's not rotating in ROT

digital radish
tawny pasture
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Well, not forwards

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It's going backwards

digital radish
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im sure you know a bit of python

tawny pasture
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Hang on, no

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No it's not

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It's not just going backwards, it's skipping

stone geyser
abstract horizon
digital radish
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ok they arent experts

safe monolith
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ok point is, no matter if ROT positive or ROT negative

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it's doing some ROT

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literally doesn't matter

digital radish
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smart enough to fully understand the code

tawny pasture
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Exactly

fresh ivy
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I didn't see a very clean isolation. (This still is only cleaner; not clean.)
It loops and echoes, here are ~3 loops. I think these things are said:
"I hurt myself."
"I can't get out."
"I think I've fallen down this rabbit hole."
"It's hard not being able to speak in compliments."
Very hard to mentally un-jumble it, but these words are in there.

tawny pasture
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-1 gives the same result, matches with the code

digital radish
tawny pasture
timid swift
hollow garnet
digital radish
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@tawny pasture it takes the output and subtracts obe

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one

fresh ivy
hollow garnet
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ic

tawny pasture
digital radish
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take the output of -1, and do -1 on that output

tawny pasture
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Oh, I see

stone geyser
tawny pasture
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...Wait a minute

tawny pasture
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Why are the zs `s?

fresh ivy
digital radish
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because it just goes to the end of the alphabet

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and that output isnt right

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a - 1 should be a symbol

tawny pasture
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OKAY

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It's ROT47 on here

digital radish
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.

safe monolith
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stahp

tawny pasture
timid swift
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Saying that it's something repeatedly won't make it so

tawny pasture
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Quite simply, it is, try it for yourself

digital radish
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right thats interesting

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the program doesnt actually do ROT

safe monolith
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it does a shift actually

digital radish
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mhm

safe monolith
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that describes it more precisely

digital radish
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well the function is literally named shift_message...

timid swift
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ROT has the shift in a loop, this is not a loop.

onyx quarry
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ROT13 only rotates alphabetic characters, ROT47 rotates most of ascii.
[FILTERED] converts the character to its unicode value, subtracts one, then converts it back to a character

hollow garnet
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also don't the rots have their own specific alphabet they rotate arround (e.g. rot13 does this)

onyx quarry
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They work on different charsets, in a similar way

safe monolith
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yes rot has an alphabet set. we're doing a shift to ' ' here

hollow garnet
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yeah thought so im just confused at the jumble of words people are saying

safe monolith
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in theory an infinite set, in practice however big 2^8 can store symbols

tawny pasture
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Okay, it removes the ~, if I take the same sort of thing

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I don't know why it's removing "~" in the output

timid swift
digital radish
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  • Takes original message
  • Runs that message thru the function
  • Takes the output and makes it the new message
  • Repeat
hollow garnet
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awesome

digital radish
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thats the program

safe monolith
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we're doing great

tawny pasture
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Comparing it to " !# 2" &2 #$2 %%" 1%$' "/( '# 0 427- 1 1"

stone geyser
tawny pasture
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It's the same but without "~"

stone geyser
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ill put it on the doc :)

hollow garnet
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oh hell yeah my 4k version of the tracker finished rendering

digital radish
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its not a ROT brit

safe monolith
digital radish
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its a shift

tawny pasture
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What the hell is a shift

abstract horizon
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Good job everyone

fresh ivy
digital radish
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search it up

tawny pasture
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No

abstract horizon
digital radish
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ok

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then dont

tawny pasture
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What is a shift

dapper wraith
timid swift
digital radish
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thats a shift

hollow garnet
digital radish
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adding or removing

stone geyser
dapper wraith
digital radish
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its incredibly easy to understand

tawny pasture
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I don't think so

digital radish
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BIT SHIFT???

safe monolith
tawny pasture
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Is it not the same?

digital radish
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no??

hollow garnet
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yeah ive never seen this before lole

tawny pasture
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I thought it was the same

safe monolith
timid swift
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I don't think anybody will be convinced of the other side thinks the program works, so i think we should probably stop doing the same thing

digital radish
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not close at all

fresh ivy
tawny pasture
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Okay, so what's the difference between a shift and ROT then

digital radish
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program has been explained countless times

tawny pasture
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Looks the same to me

dapper wraith
digital radish
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brit please use google

dapper wraith
tawny pasture
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Yep, that helped

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Can't find it

digital radish
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shift crypt

safe monolith
hollow garnet
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ikr

tawny pasture
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It's a fucking caesar cipher

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My god

digital radish
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no

tawny pasture
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Yes

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It's the same thing

hollow garnet
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almost tempted to take the derivative of this

digital radish
tawny pasture
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Shift cipher is the exact same thing as a caesar cipher

digital radish
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its hopeless

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bye

tawny pasture
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It's a different name

hollow garnet
safe monolith
dapper wraith
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it's as much a caesar cipher as much as it is ROT neurowheeze

hollow garnet
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numerical methods probably

safe monolith
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ah, estimations

timid swift
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@tawny pasture You'll probably have to accept that everyone else thinks that it isn't a ROT or ceasar cipher, even if you disagree

hollow garnet
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though it probably needs smoothing first

safe monolith
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bred ngl this looks chaotic to me

abstract horizon
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Peace and patience

tawny pasture
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All Google says is that the shift cipher is a different name for a caesar cipher

hollow garnet
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idk i just liked the line i don't think its important either

onyx quarry
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[a,b,c,d,e,f] -> [b,c,d,e,f,a] = Alphabetic shift right by one
01011010 -> 00101101 = Bit shift right by one

A shift is literally moving things in that direction

tawny pasture
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I was told to Google it, I Googled it and I'm still being told I'm wrong

onyx quarry
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A ceasar cipher shifts letter assignments

tawny pasture
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What do you want from me

digital radish
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okay, what have we actually discovered in this video

safe monolith
abstract horizon
tawny pasture
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Definitely not a caesar cipher, don't know what you're going on about

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Looks like ROT to me still

digital radish
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theres AES encrypted text and we found the potential key and not the encrypted text

tawny pasture
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The closest thing I've seen is still ROT, exact same results minus ~

hollow garnet
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maybe?

safe monolith
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unless you do a rate of change between every 2 frames. that'll practically be a derivative good enough for us

dapper wraith
tawny pasture
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It's not shifting anything?

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Okay, what

tawny pasture
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This program isn't shifting the output at all

hollow garnet
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thanks discord

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oh its late

tawny pasture
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I can see it in the output, there's no shifting going on

hollow garnet
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im going to sleep

tawny pasture
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I know what you mean now, no

safe monolith
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living in the future

digital radish
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gn bred

stone geyser
abstract horizon
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For you it seems ROT but for others, it is not, they are different opinions but we work as a team so several of them try other programs and it also ROT

digital radish
tawny pasture
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I mean, it gives the exact same result as going ROT minus.

digital radish
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length 16 right?

tawny pasture
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So I don't know how it isn't ROT.

timid swift
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we have the rotated numbers and the barcode-looking-binary

digital radish
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if not, that cant be the key

stone geyser
onyx quarry
digital radish
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yeah

stone geyser
tawny pasture
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What are you looking at?

digital radish
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hm

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that cant be used then

onyx quarry
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This means that spaces stay as spaces forever

stone geyser
digital radish
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oh do the letters without spaces have a length of 16?

safe monolith
stone geyser
dapper wraith
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sadly lots of things in CS are multiples of 16

digital radish
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vanor just mentioned them

tawny pasture
#

The spaces are the same

stone geyser
#

no. they arent

digital radish
#

the upper part?

tawny pasture
#

All it's doing that's different is removing the ~ when it rotates to that and replacing it with spaces

digital radish
#

14

whole sorrel
#

Its not a caesar cipher LMAO
"bb" would not result in any useful english no matter how you shift it ICANT

stone geyser
digital radish
#

so yeah

stone geyser
digital radish
#

we dont have a key yet

timid swift
tawny pasture
#

Yeah, maybe if someone didn't ask me to Google "shift cipher"

safe monolith
#

@stone geyser the overlap is 16 chars, if you want to give that a shot

stone geyser
#

yeah thats what im looking for

tawny pasture
timid swift
#

No arm, no cakes then

tawny pasture
#

I'm looking at the output on the document and comparing it

digital radish
#

someone showed a spectrogram with the AES clue, its real right?

tawny pasture
#

I don't need to mess with the code

stone geyser
digital radish
#

okay so

tawny pasture
#

Plus I don't want to install Python

digital radish
#

theres one possible key but no text

onyx quarry
#

ROT 13 and 47 do not rotate spaces, this program does

tawny pasture
#

Where?

digital radish
#

the hex mentioned is the possible key

tawny pasture
#

Where are you seeing that?

onyx quarry
#

So when [FILTERED] rotates into a space, the value is lost

dapper wraith
digital radish
timid swift
safe monolith
tawny pasture
#

I can compare it to ROT

#

I can see it's the exact same thing

timid swift
#

except it's not

safe monolith
#

it's definitely not XOR, at least not a full XOR

tawny pasture
#

Except it is

#

This is the same

onyx quarry
#

[FILTERED] will

timid swift
#

keep scrolling down

dapper wraith
#

yeah and you see how it stops at spaces?

timid swift
#

it's not the same

digital radish
#

brit i dont want to be mean, but are you stupid?

tawny pasture
#

I'VE ALREADY SAID WHY

#

FUCKING HELL

#

IT REMOVES THE "~" WHEN IT ROTATES TO IT

stone geyser
onyx quarry
timid swift
#

Let's all just move on then. We're in agreement. Brit, you'll have to accept that we don't agree

digital radish
#

pls

tawny pasture
#

I feel like I'm going fucking insane

#

LOOK

timid swift
#

no

digital radish
#

please brit

abstract horizon
tawny pasture
#

FUCKING LOOK AT IT.

digital radish
#

im going insane

tawny pasture
#

It is the exact same thing except that it replaces ~ with spaces

gritty thorn
stone geyser
onyx quarry
#

@tawny pasture dm me, I'll explain it if you want. Otherwise, take it to #programming

tawny pasture
#

"~~ !# 2" &2 #$2 %%" 1%$' "/( '# ~0 427# ~ 1~1"
" !# 2" &2 #$2 %%" 1%$' "/( '# 0 427- 1 1"

#

It's the same

abstract horizon
#

change the name from Neuro ARG to people who lose their sanity

timid swift
#

Anyway, how certain are we that the "barcodes" are binary numbers? The 1's seem a little more like T's to me

digital radish
#

@tawny pasture
Code takes the message, transforms it into UNICODE
IT REMOVES 1 FROM THAT UNICODE
search the unicode of "b", subtract one and search the unicode of that result

#

do that until you have nothing

hollow garnet
timid swift
#

yeah, they do

digital radish
#

thats how the program works

dapper wraith
timid swift
#

but still, even an upside down one shouldn't look like a T, no? It should have the bottom line on both side and the top line on one side, OR just be a straight narrow line, or am I losing the plot?

digital radish
#

its not ROT or CIPHER, ROT works in a certain range of numbers (aka only a certain range of unicode characters)
the program goes thru EVERY UNICODE POSSIBLE until theres nothing
@tawny pasture this is enough explanation, so please dont bring it up again

dapper wraith
dapper wraith
stone geyser
#

i found it in this chat

#

add it back if tou want

tawny pasture
#

Okay, I see

#

Thank you

safe monolith
tawny pasture
#

Thank you for actually giving a bloody answer

#

I see it now

safe monolith
tawny pasture
#

! goes to " "

digital radish
#

yes you get it now

stone geyser
digital radish
#

" " also is considered "nothing" in unicode

tawny pasture
#

My confusion came up because it was doing the exact same thing as ROT up until the space

digital radish
#

did you understand it now?

tawny pasture
#

And I know fuck all about coding, unicode, or what any of that means

timid swift
tawny pasture
#

I know fuck all about ciphers as well honestly

digital radish
#

ok

#

i explained it to you

abstract horizon
#

Everything Is fine now?

digital radish
#

yes

tawny pasture
#

Yeah, once someone explained it was changing the unicode

timid swift
#

Alright, so in other words, the top barcode, and the numbers drawn to extend them spell out the same binary numbers?

safe monolith
#

Yep

digital radish
#

i think the barcode is just for a dramatic effect

tawny pasture
#

I don't even know how ROT works either honestly, I just see rotating letters and go "oh, cool"

digital radish
#

as its likely AI generated

timid swift
#

It could also be to show that we've got it right

digital radish
#

yes

#

it might also be a clue

abstract horizon
#

Nice

digital radish
#

try finding out if its AI generated

tawny pasture
#

I thought we got binary out of it

digital radish
#

every black and white image is technically binary

stone geyser
digital radish
#

i see

tawny pasture
#

"c75e0fb05eec877fc8522e550dd55ded5b50508fbbe88bb7d82e28d8f2df0e2b" feels too consistent to not be deliberate binary

digital radish
#

then you might be on the right path

tawny pasture
#

As it is, it's nothing

digital radish
#

binary is a string of 1's and 0's

stone geyser
tawny pasture
#

Maybe there's some way to get something out of it

digital radish
#

yes

stone geyser
#

of the binary

digital radish
#

oh

#

god i wish i could read docs

timid swift
#

Right, so this also explains why the top of the ones in the barcode is so strange. It's because it has to be a valid barcode as well

stone geyser
tawny pasture
#

Yeah, sorry about that earlier though

#

I saw a correlation and I didn't know unicode, completely misunderstood.

digital radish
#

i have a super good pc but a 100 euro phone

stone geyser
#

ahh, have you tried the web version?

digital radish
#

it sends directly to the app

stone geyser
#

delete the app

#

ez

safe monolith
digital radish
#

yeah right, same as trying to delete edge

safe monolith
#

It was interpreted in a non-bar code way to get the same hex

stone geyser
digital radish
#

mhm

timid swift
#

Ah, right. I didn't mean it as a specific barcode standard

stone geyser
#

try requesting it as desktop site

digital radish
#

only option is to force close

abstract horizon
digital radish
stone geyser
#

damn

digital radish
safe monolith
digital radish
#

but ill do that tomorrow

gritty thorn
#

wait, this video also have English subtitles, did anyone find anything in those?

abstract horizon
digital radish
#

too tired to much

digital radish
digital radish
#

no clue why they are there?

gritty thorn
digital radish
#

thats weird

stone geyser
#

transcript of the subtitles

digital radish
#

why are there subtitles if everything is in the description

abstract horizon
#

Very weird

gritty thorn
#

I was expecting to have something hidden in those first 14 minutes in the subtitles

abstract horizon
digital radish
#

fair enough

timid swift
gritty thorn
#

also, the description itself doesn't seem to be helping much, why repeat it as subtitles?

stone geyser
#

this is so complicated

digital radish
#

okok

timid swift
#

almost as if it's deliberately vague on purpose NeuroClueless

abstract horizon
digital radish
#

we need to find the AES encrypted text

#

being closer to the key than the text is a bit concerning

stone geyser
#

i refuse to believe nothing interesting in the 14 minutes of that house, but since it is ai generated it is impossible to tell if something is important or just ai being weird

safe monolith
#

dark we did

digital radish
#

oh

fresh ivy
digital radish
#

yeah

#

i will go to sleep

#

docs are important

gritty thorn
#

these elipses, I wonder...

digital radish
#

and i cant read them on phone

#

bye bye gn

timid swift
#

we have a suspected ciphertext

stone geyser
abstract horizon
tawny pasture
#

I decided to increase the audio at the end by a lot because I wanted to get that last bit louder.

#

I know someone else did it already, but I wanted to hear it clearer.

digital radish
#

"life-end"

tawny pasture
#

Well, it's the end part of the "Meaning of life" video

dapper wraith
#

I finished decoding the "barcode". The only character that doesn't match is the second "d". To me it looks like "df" not "dd" neuroShrug

digital radish
#

end of life neuRIZZ

stone geyser
tawny pasture
#

The beeping is new

safe monolith
dapper wraith
timid swift
tawny pasture
#

I see, I see...

digital radish
#

turn the barcode to black & white?

tawny pasture
stone geyser
#

actully nvm mb

gritty thorn
#

Because I got nothing better to do, I separated the description for each elipsis.

stone geyser
#

yeah idk why

dapper wraith
stone geyser
#

there is most likely a mistake somewhere

#

probably in the binary

tawny pasture
#

Here's an attempt at making the part at the bottom clearer

timid swift
#

nice

dapper wraith
#

wait do the docs not have an image of the full "0T" sequence?

digital radish
#

rotototototototototo

tawny pasture
#

Only a section, from what I can see

digital radish
#

rototooooorotooooo

tawny pasture
#

Anyone know what OTTOOOTT means? NeuroClueless

digital radish
#

ototototo

digital radish
tawny pasture
#

I could've cropped that, chose not too

gritty thorn
#

so, what end this base 64 got?

dapper wraith
#

yeah, unless I miscounted there is a mistake there. it's
c75e0fb05eec877fc8522e550df55ded5b50508fbbe88bb7d82e28d8f2df0e2b
instead of
c75e0fb05eec877fc8522e550dd55ded5b50508fbbe88bb7d82e28d8f2df0e2b

safe monolith
#

Man, I want to say that string really doesn't look like a hash at all

#

There are so many repeats of 2, 5 & 8, it looks so suspicious

timid swift
#

right, what's the frequency? Even if it's short it could be super loaded

tawny pasture
#

Oh wow, turning the exposure way down helps in seeing that inverted Neuro

safe monolith
#

Only 10 out of 16 possible chars used, my scuff meter is going off

timid swift
#

that's like 5 6 characters with nothing then

#

i suspect it's neither random nor hash, yeah, you're right

tawny pasture
timid swift
#

did someone find the transcription error in the binary? It doesn't say dd anymore now and in the binary I don't see the repeated d sequence

stone geyser
tawny pasture
timid swift
#

ah

#

great job then!

stone geyser
#

was the binary changed? or was it already correct but the translation wasnt?

timid swift
#

lemme check version history

dapper wraith
#

I changed these two to have the f instead of the d

stone geyser
#

ahh okay

#

yeah thats correct

#

i checked aswell

digital radish
#

yay its solved!

stone geyser
#

maybe

timid swift
#

it was wrong originally yeah

digital radish
#

wait whats the length of the hex?

stone geyser
#

wdym?

dapper wraith
#

512bit

digital radish
#

letter length

timid swift
#

64 characters

digital radish
#

oh

#

it said AES128 tho?

stone geyser
#

not the key

digital radish
#

ah

timid swift
#

or it's encoded in a wasteful way and will become smaller to fit the key

digital radish
#

im confused

#

the base64 can be decoded with that key?

timid swift
#

actually, i don't think it's ciphertext, it was super poor entrophy as we just discussed

digital radish
#

i see

#

thats weird

#

hex to ascii gives anything?

stone geyser
#

nope

digital radish
#

right

#

i hope we dont get stuck with these 2

timid swift
#

I hope we get stuck over the alternative of nothing to do and people losing their minds

stone geyser
#

i feel like we are missing something massive

digital radish
#

that

tawny pasture
#

Here's the thing again

digital radish
#

yes

#

wait thats a Y

tawny pasture
#

"KEY = 128 BIT"

digital radish
#

ah...

timid swift
#

dark you need to get into the docs lmao

#

gotta get up to speed

digital radish
#

:(

#

oh wait ill just use my website

#

i've been doing a version that automaticly adds docs

#

it works

#

ill be back soon

stone geyser
#

go read!

abstract horizon
#

Reading time

#

Here it is 9:54 p.m. and in your country what time is it?

digital radish
#

okay, if the binary is upside down doesnt it mean that the binary is also reversed?

#

would also be the same case using barcode

stone geyser
#

yeah, but we disproved that theory

timid swift
#

yes, that'd match

#

how did we disprove it?

stone geyser
digital radish
#

i mean it makes sense

#

it looks like binary, but the one is upside down

#

if we invert the barcode, the result would also be inverted

digital radish
#

this also happened in numbers 2 iirc

stone geyser
timid swift
#

that's a pretty good indicator yes, but you're right that it's not proof

stone geyser
#

thats why i said kinda

digital radish
#

hmm

#

@stone geyser you read from left-right?

#

instead of inverting

stone geyser
#

wdym?

timid swift
#

mirroring upside down would yield the same as the original

#

flipping it 180 or reading in reverse would be the same

digital radish
#

okay

stone geyser
#

i also fixed this ones binary cause it had the same error as previous

timid swift
#

figures, great job!

digital radish
#

may sound stupid, can we divide the hex into 4 and try using it to decode?

stone geyser
#

sorry im kinda stupid, can you say that in stupider terms? lmfao

digital radish
#

uhhh

#

64 letter phrase = 4 16 letter phrase

stone geyser
#

OHHH

#

YUP

#

i see

#

uhhh what would we decode with that?

timid swift
#

still waiting for the extra stupid edition so i also get it NeuroClueless

digital radish
#

the base64 we found

dapper wraith
digital radish
#

i know

#

like

#

its stupid

timid swift
#

our solutions in the past have been sorta random

digital radish
#

but try

stone geyser
digital radish
#

we also can use only the barcodes under neuro

digital radish
stone geyser
#

NO WHERE HERE SAYS BASE64 😭

digital radish
#

yes

stone geyser
#

guys you should probably use the alternate transcription

timid swift
#

why?

stone geyser
#

the original one has multiple errors

digital radish
#

use them both

stone geyser
#

i was gonna replace it but i was told not to

digital radish
#

replace it

#

dont worry

dapper wraith
#

it decrypts NeuroClueless

timid swift
#

we'll see what transcription is correct, let's keep what we have for now

digital radish
#

if my stupid idea works im gonna go insane

timid swift
stone geyser
#

also it isnt a multiple of 16

digital radish
#

huh

stone geyser
#

so uhhh it shouldnt be working anyway

digital radish
#

i was clearly told the hex was 64 characters long

stone geyser
#

the hex code is

#

i meant the base64

digital radish
#

right

#

it said the key is 128 bit

#

but didnt mention AES

#

hm...

dapper wraith
timid swift
#

Hm, interesting. I thought it would just die.

stone geyser
stone geyser
digital radish
#

the other spectogram mentioned AES = 128 BIT

stone geyser
#

it doesnt make sense

digital radish
#

this one just says key

stone geyser
#

true

digital radish
#

so, what other ciphers use a 128 bit key and a base64 cipher?

#

thing

#

cipher

#

dont rant about cipher being wrong

timid swift
#

anything can use base64, it's just an encoding

#

and i absolutely will rant about base64 not being a cipher :p

digital radish
#

you said the base64 didnt have enough of that compression thing

#

uhhhh

stone geyser
#

yeah you can have base64 use 128bit key without it being aes

#

oh wait

#

nvm

#

i am stulti

#

mi estas tre stulti

digital radish
#

hmmm its weird tho, nothing points towards this being AES

dapper wraith
# timid swift Hm, interesting. I thought it would just die.

no. crypto functions will usually complete without error as long as input parameters are valid.

like think about a cipher using subtraction input - key = cipher and it's inverse cipher + key = input.
sure the function will fail if you put letters into it (let's ignore that letters are basically just encoded numbers) but it will give a output for every numeric cipher and key but that doesn't mean the result is the original input.

digital radish
#

and vedal the arg master has used only AES 99%

timid swift
#

Yeah, it makes total sense, and I get it for simple ciphers. But.. well.. you know the kinds of superstition you get with things you don't really understand, like actual cryptography :p

gritty thorn
#

it might be nothing, but this "rar" on the first line at the end really bugs me

dapper wraith
#

is it finally blowfish time? NeuroClueless

digital radish
#

this video being in a different format from others

#

kinda points at it not being AES

stone geyser
digital radish
#

plus we never got binary directly

#

it was in the form of neuros

stone geyser
digital radish
#

fuck you

#

thats so

gritty thorn
digital radish
#

owo

#

rar~~

dapper wraith
digital radish
#

q`q :3

stone geyser
digital radish
#

p_p :/

timid swift
#

oh no, the owoing has begun. Hide your families

digital radish
#

o^o :o

gritty thorn
digital radish
timid swift
#

mad respect if it was the solution just to annoy people

gritty thorn
#

decrypt this neurOMEGALUL

digital radish
#

theres no way

stone geyser
#

i dont want to believe this

#

but im starting to believe it

digital radish
#

please no

timid swift
digital radish
#

ok its not

timid swift
#

I had a literal house of leaves flashback

digital radish
#

because for it to be a script, it would have to repeat faces

gritty thorn
#

L joe neuroTomfoolery

stone geyser
#

if this is hello world no way 4 faces will give us anything

digital radish
#

uwu owo uwu owo xwx ~w~

gritty thorn
timid swift
#

why does binary repeat 1s and 0s all the time

digital radish
#

every esoteric language is just trying to overcomplicate pointers

abstract horizon
stone geyser
abstract horizon
#

What happend?

stone geyser
#

obviously owoScript NeuroClueless

abstract horizon
stone geyser
#

i didnt

#

it would just be really funny

#

so i checked

#

cause funny

abstract horizon
#

Can you imagine that at some point in the arg we have to use that?

stone geyser
#

dont give ideas

abstract horizon
digital radish
stone geyser
#

idk where to look

gritty thorn
digital radish
#

guys can we time travel and get the arg ending

abstract horizon
#

Pls ved do it neuroLookUp

digital radish
stone geyser
#

i think

abstract horizon
#

Actually don't, pls

digital radish
#

its literal fucking pointers

#

and loops

abstract horizon
digital radish
#

one of the easiest esoteric languages imo

stone geyser
#

owoscript is probably harder lmfao

digital radish
#

yeah

dapper wraith
#

owoscript is stack machine instead of pointers. so it's actually like java NeuroClueless

digital radish
#

so its harder

#

java itself is hard

gritty thorn
#

huh, it is easy indeed

abstract horizon
#

Whitespace despair catdespair

digital radish
#

whitespace is pure chaos

abstract horizon
#

We gonna die

digital radish
#

also made by overcomplicating pointers

#

also one of my assignments was doing a brainfuck compiler

abstract horizon
#

But Whitespace Is More hard because Is just chaos

digital radish
#

its whitespaces

abstract horizon
#

No logic

#

Literally Whitespace

digital radish
#

anyways this was a fun little break from the arg

abstract horizon
stone geyser
#

i dont know where to look on the arg

abstract horizon
#

That was funny

dapper wraith
digital radish
#

i

stone geyser
#

any things to work towards?

digital radish
#

wrong uh

stone geyser
#

I think we should take a break from the binary

#

and look at something else

dapper wraith
#

there's the other string vanor was working on...

digital radish
abstract horizon
#

my gallery is full of the glitched mouse patterns from the halloween stream because I think they are part of the qr code but my computer and laptop died so I can't do anything