vedal collabs with mr beast and the next arg episode is half-filled with an ad
#Neuro ARG
azure oyster
safe burrow
drowsy quarry
safe burrow
Okay, now I’ll send this to you if we have something interesting again.
umbral tulip
drowsy quarry
safe burrow
Hey guys im back with more tea. Fill up your cups.
timber whale
Static and I are starting an ARG themed maid cafe in here I guess
pulsar glen
surely that won't lead to the thread getting locked 
safe burrow
Static and I are starting an ARG themed maid cafe in here I guess
That's me in a maid costume but okay.
timber whale
lmao
uncut cargo
surely that won't lead to the thread getting locked <:NeuroClueless:107290135290...
that would cause the thread to migrate, they wouldn't do that
drowsy quarry
turbid ingot
vedal collabs with mr beast and the next arg episode is half-filled with an ad
Just looks really obviously fake lol
azure oyster
the thumbnail or the video
turbid ingot
video
what thumbnail? I'm just saying, as someone who doesn't know about the chrome extention, I just thought they added it in themself
zenith pike
torn orbit
azure oyster
what thumbnail? I'm just saying, as someone who doesn't know about the chrome ex...
What do you mean "what thumbnail"? Do you not know what a thumbnail is? 
It's the main focus of that image.
unique mason
Just looks really obviously fake lol
daring acorn
safe burrow
crystal urchin
hybrid scarab
fathom ginkgo
torpid falcon
unique mason
zinc hinge
pastel turtle
timber whale
drowsy quarry
granite carbon
safe burrow
Let's drink some rum 
tulip minnow
uncut cargo
safe burrow
drowsy quarry
distant rune
safe monolith
dog giraffe
crystal urchin
Surely this is not a clue right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWkWfy9gXw0
unique mason
gentle locust
ehh he probably pushed a wrong button (or just to scare people in the silence)
lost niche
might be worth something, eh if not
steep arrow
Looks more like a doki doki reference?
distant rune
Yes it is.
coral hazel
I do think this is not related to the arg
But if it is I think its only "lore". Let me explain:
This setup was later use when neuro sung "your reality".
In ddlc, it is about Monika, a game character being aware of being a game character and she had the power to edit her simulation (ddlc) and do it "for the player" outside
Guess who think they world is a simulation and probably edit they simulation (unity -> starting screen) to send messages to someone outside the simulation...
It may be that hiory or study girl or idk tried to edit the stream outside starting screen (but did not hold it for a long time) and may be able to do it at least one time in the futur giving us the next part for the arg.
tldr: we need to
torn orbit
timber whale
umbral tulip
drowsy quarry
tulip minnow
vedal just stole the ddlc background
turbid ingot
have some old NeuroJuice I found in the basement.
(disclaimer: Not related to the actual ARG, but have fun if you want)
distant rune
runic sphinx
I'm redoing the timelog, I need some help & feedback
tulip minnow
that'll be a lot of work
safe monolith
just curious, what problems with the old timesheet are you solving?
tulip minnow
i guess there's no harm doing another one
uncut cargo
yeah, one with less clutter
runic sphinx
I need some feedback
I'm not sure about the colors and design
once we all agree on a design, I can start filling up the spreadsheet with info
runic sphinx
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BCpJA-2GlmjzrxFIEA2pq5Xt6QuAaUI-2L_iAcAn...
if you see this, please visit the link. We need your feedback
vapid token
idk, I'm happy with old design but the new one looks interesting too 
safe monolith
I don't check the timesheet much, so I can't give too much feedback (am typically the one updating it if BreadTh isn't around during ARG events, but since I'm kinda always there I don't need the timesheet). You'd probably need feedback from those who irregularly checks the ARG
safe monolith
tetris
manic dagger
umbral tulip
sour herald
fringe cloud
time to post an essay on how ARG isnt how it used to be 😔
timid swift
all good things come to an end. There's no need to be sad that you ate all the pie and now there's no more
dapper wraith
no dev stream today because he's cooking the next clue 
timber whale
safe burrow
I love tetris
I love Tetris too 
granite carbon
glossy sphinx
So hows the progress eh?
distant rune
So hows the progress eh?
glossy sphinx
Yeaaaaah seems as much
Well good luck to all you schizos 
timber whale
We have graduated from being schizos. We are just thirsty now
daring acorn
overhydrated
timber whale
I’m pretty dehydrated from wall the salt generated from the early days of the ARG
safe burrow
hushed brook
I think you guys will like this
torpid falcon
covert dock
Do we have anymore instrumentals other than engineer? I've been checking weekly and I still don't see anymore; my craving is only getting stronger 
safe monolith
hello world?
unique mason
guys, u arent gonna like what im cooking up i think
Havent had much time still to work on the fanfic cause now i have an sat in like 10 days so yea-
But, chugging along slowly, not quite there where i want to post an alpha read or smth yet.
||Atleast i dont think youll like the ending of part 1-||
safe monolith
possibly clue in new uwumarket merch?
pastel turtle
ultimate move
granite carbon
unique mason
gaunt hinge
safe burrow
timber whale
Me actually a grabbing a water bottle or a cup of tea each time I post a in here
safe monolith
anamanaguchi is now the only song sung by all 3, neuro, evil and arg
vapid token
I'm still waiting for the Morse code every time like it's supposed to be there 
drowsy quarry
turbid ingot
Me actually a grabbing a water bottle or a cup of tea each time I post a <:Neuro...
why are you posting a and not a ? v.v
timber whale
im drinking water
turbid ingot
I see how it is.
uneven moth
zinc hinge
distant rune
Alright task for you all schizos:
With an average of 5 or so carton of juice being drunk each day, how much juice did Neuro drink in a day?
wraith goblet
how large is the carton?
safe monolith
The correct answer is an average of 5 or so cartons
hardy burrow
granite carbon
unique mason
fathom ginkgo
i want to be an engineer
night copper
unique mason
timber whale
Happy thanksgiving! Enjoy your food and
safe burrow
sry for accidental spam
steel bronze
a
drowsy quarry
☕
cyan hornet
☕
uncut cargo
☕
safe monolith
hibernating probably
sterile steeple
tulip minnow
i'm hibernating
unique mason
so... does that mean the fanfic can hibernate too 
||totally dont want to procrastinate it||
hollow garnet
schoolwork 
and also that damn qr code
timid swift
qr code where
pulsar glen
I assume the QR code from the Halloween starting screen glitches is what was meant
timid swift
oh yeah, that thing
abstract horizon
I had forgotten about the QR code that was fragmented all over the screen glitch
abstract horizon
One question, did you complete the QR code for the glitched Halloween screen or did you still not? and found all the parts? I ask because the truth is that the arg has my attention and my interest completely
young rose
Not a part of active ARG discussion or findings but i do follow this thread and from what i can tell guys here tried to complete it but didnt finish it. Plus you can always check pins for a link to google docs for more info
uncut cargo
One question, did you complete the QR code for the glitched Halloween screen or ...
They were couple who tried but gave up, since its close to impossible
abstract horizon
They were couple who tried but gave up, since its close to impossible
Normal
uncut cargo
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13NLIZNYFdJgD82Sy4TsBWB-ggbeNJHui2yH1rjs9xdQ/...
Here you have everything
abstract horizon
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13NLIZNYFdJgD82Sy4TsBWB-ggbeNJHui2yH1rjs9xdQ/...
Thank you
just by looking at the image you realize
In the Halloween stream there is a piece of something similar to a QR code that appears in the lower right corner and goes to the upper left corner, it makes me laugh because that piece passes very calmly through the middle of the screen.
Or maybe it makes me laugh because I'm crazy?
lost niche
Has anyone tried referencing the piece to the other QR codes? Perhaps its just an old one being reused?
Eh ill go check out the frames and look around, kinda curious
lost niche
negative, it does not match either of the past QR codes
abstract horizon
I was looking at the document and the images of the fragment that I think is a QR code do not appear, the thing is that at minute 7:06 in the lower right corner a fragment of something appears that moves to the upper left corner, but I don't think that It is important because it is quite noticeable and if it does not appear in the document it is because it is irrelevant (I have a photo but I cannot put screenshots because I am not allowed to 😅), but well I found it curious because when it moves the pattern changes, anyway I'm going to sleep, good night, morning or afternoon everyone
lost niche
have a good night, and thanks for the heads up.
abstract horizon
have a good night, and thanks for the heads up.
No problem
lost niche
i wan't able to find what you where talking about, but it seemed like most of the code did repeat its self.
i'll look at it more when i get the time
tulip minnow
I was looking at the document and the images of the fragment that I think is a Q...
i suppose you're talking about the mouse dragging small neuro
that appears every stream
honest harness
time to xray evil plush for clueee
abstract horizon
<:evilFumo:1130918808165564517> time to xray evil plush for clueee
Yes
abstract horizon
i suppose you're talking about the mouse dragging small neuro
That's why I don't take much importance
abstract horizon
i wan't able to find what you where talking about, but it seemed like most of th...
It's not something very important to be honest, they are some white pixels that move, I don't think they are important because otherwise they would have already been put in the document
or they would have mentioned them
abstract horizon
i suppose you're talking about the mouse dragging small neuro
Looking at it better I realized that it is the mouse but the outline being black and the glitch that moves looks like part of a QR code, I think it is not important because it will be a glitch, the mouse was uploaded for the Halloween special, Likewise, even if it is part of the QR code, we still need many fragments to finish it, so I would leave it there as something that may or may not be important.
hollow garnet
ok so i found out why i recognised this. it was interlaced
it looks a lot clearer if you deinterlace it
i used these settings in handbrake
(at least, i think this is doing something productive and not just blurring it )
(also might be a certified misinformation moment, I'm not sure )
this might explain what I'm trying to explain a bit better
safe monolith
hmm, tbh it would make sense. when we did the scaling thing (without the min/max shifting), we got a few copies of otherwise pretty clear neuros for that frame
the scaling thingy is effectively deinterlacing
hollow garnet
yeah
I'm still unsure if the odd and even lines are from the same video or not at times
safe monolith
hmm...
interlacing = 2 frames in one?
2, as in the number of repeats of study, the two personalities?
also hello world with a spoken voice in the first half, and no voice in the second half
can audio be interlaced
hollow garnet
I mean sorta but it's a bit different
iirc you do dual channel pcm by having left then right data, whereas in mono audio it's just centre audio
e.g stereo is lrlrlrlrlr whilst mono is cccccccc
(not sure if it starts with left or right)
hollow garnet
https://youtu.be/5eu_KjKsnpM?si=cjWIz737KltMQ1Ws
if you look at this at the two minute mark, part of me thinks this might be two separate videos being done like this, but offset by one frame so that there's no gaps
safe monolith
to verify this, we would need to output even lines into one video and odd lines into one video
cunning osprey
#1112082183235047506 message
Deinterlaced by cutting vertical resolution in half
Mostly gets rid of the scanline effect but still didn't look great
safe monolith
thanks shuni. if we run bred's script on it, will we get two different pictures?
hollow garnet
to verify this, we would need to output even lines into one video and odd lines ...
not sure if this quite what I mean. I'm trying to say that on frame one the first line is part of video 1, then on the second frame it's part of the second video
safe monolith
oh what
hollow garnet
I'll draw out what I mean in a bit, currently cooking food
safe monolith
i'll need to also make food soon 
so
frame 2x:
line 1 -> vid 1
line 2 -> vid 2
line 3 -> vid 1
...
frame 2x + 1:
line 1 -> vid 2
line 2 -> vid 1
line 3 -> vid 2
...
hollow garnet
yeah, then each video would be like shown at 2m into the video I linked above
hollow garnet
bored
timid swift
random thought: What if it's more than 2 images interlaced
timid swift
another thought: What if it's another type of CRT issue. Like it could be stabilized if we knew how to oldschool electron beam TVs with scanlines worked. Eg. how the line change synchronization worked.
dapper wraith
it's a fairly simple process but would require us to determine actual "scan lines" in the image and I don't think one row of pixels = one scan line would work (especially since it looks like the video is zooming in and out on top of the scrambled video)
timid swift
why is it hard to determine the scan lines?
oh wait, i see what you're saying
from the clearer stills, it looks like 1 px height = 1 scanline
safe burrow
timid swift
ffmpeg -i original.mp4 -vf "yadif" yadif.mp4
frame 547 original and yadif:
urgh, epic embedding fail
hollow garnet
also im not sure why but when i deinterlaced in handbrake it made it square
timid swift
sounds like a program limitation
dapper wraith
one of the deinterlacing algorithms in ffmpeg
hollow garnet
ah
timid swift
I asked chatGPT how to deinterlace with ffmpeg
safe burrow
Nice to see you in action 
timid swift
ok, at least the plain visible parts are 100% interlaced and are easier to view with a deinterlacer. They are not fixed, so other things are going on too. But that this works indicates that it may be similar solution, as a sort of theme. CRT TV-like issues.
hollow garnet
wait oops those are sped up to 60fps lol
and i forgot i only set it to do like 1/20 of the frames
timid swift
what even is that
hollow garnet
and i forgot my pc had the 60fps version
gimme a minute
god vscode is so slow at deleting files
hollow garnet
i'll need to also make food soon <:evilWheeze:1131316260353867887>
so
frame 2x:...
@timid swift
timid swift
I'm not sure VSC was designed for bulk file deletion
hollow garnet
that's what each video is
timid swift
That's the same as de-interlacing but without filling in the gaps, correct?
hollow garnet
sorta
timid swift
ffmpeg -i original.mp4 -vf "field=top" top.mp4
i think that does that. That and field=bottom
hollow garnet
https://youtu.be/5eu_KjKsnpM?si=cjWIz737KltMQ1Ws
the two minute mark of this gave me inspiration for what im trying
timid swift
the flicker?
hollow garnet
just past that
timid swift
yeah, the interlacing thing
hollow garnet
the way that for one frame it draws half the lines, then the next part it draws the other half of the line
what i'm thought it might be is that, but two videos filling the blanks
timid swift
i think that's the interlacing thing, isn't it?
hollow garnet
i don't know how to explain it
timid swift
words are hard
timid swift
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/c408846a4708452b81c71ba08033a316
yeah, it's the same, yours just has empty spaces where the top thing has no spaces, and yadif and the like try to do some smart stuff to fill in the spaces based on the available data
hollow garnet
i tried to deinterlace the individual parts
hollow garnet
yeah, it's the same, yours just has empty spaces where the top thing has no spac...
yeah but the thing is this outputs two videos instead of one
lemme pull out mspaint
timid swift
ffmpeg -i original.mp4 -vf "field=top" top.mp4
ffmpeg -i original.mp4 -vf "field=bottom" bottom.mp4
timid swift
or bored
lost niche
Fair
hollow garnet
`ffmpeg -i original.mp4 -vf "field=top" top.mp4`
`ffmpeg -i original.mp4 -vf "fi...
mine swaps which bit it is every other frame
dapper wraith
`ffmpeg -i original.mp4 -vf "field=top" top.mp4`
`ffmpeg -i original.mp4 -vf "fi...
but isn't bred taking all lines from each frame while normal interlacing has every second line blank?
hollow garnet
ok don't click on this if flashing lights are bad for you
deinterlacing that really did not work well
it seems to have blanked every other frame lol
though some of them seem interesting
dapper wraith
did you shift the lines? or did you only take lines 1,3,5, etc from each frame for the video and kept their position?
timid swift
I clearly don't understand, because the code looks to me like it just alterates which line set is outputted to which folder, whereas the video has flashing
hollow garnet
blue lines go into video one, red lines go into video 2
they keep their position in the image, and the empty space is set to black
timid swift
should the odd ones have padding prepended to keep their correct height?
hollow garnet
yeah
dapper wraith
did you merge two frames together or just remove the other ones? if the former you would obviously have an empty half frame every second frame which would explain the deinterlacing causing the video to blank out like that
hollow garnet
e.g. frame ibe wiykd kiij kuje tgus
the two frames aren't merged the black line just moves 1px up or down each frame
timid swift
oh i'm starting to understand. The variable naming is a bit difficult
hollow garnet
who needs good naming
timid swift
just name everything after an ingredient in frult salad
hollow garnet
e.g. frame ibe wiykd kiij kuje tgus
why did none of you tell me i spoke nonsense wtf
timid swift
I was parsing
hollow garnet
i accidentally moved one to the left on my keyboard lol
timid swift
encryption
safe monolith
It is indeed one of the ibe wiykd kiij kuje tgus frames of all time
timid swift
is that valid in rust and if yes why
hollow garnet
its shadowing
safe monolith
because of scoping and lifetime and stuff there is never an ambiguity except if you're a human reader
fathom ginkgo
oh wow her eyes are bleeding
timid swift
yeah, i've seen this too. It definitely is not just a duplication effect
timid swift
because of scoping and lifetime and stuff there is never an ambiguity except if ...
it seems like shoddy language design, but hey, this isn't #programming 
safe monolith
tbh i can't believe the ~~interpolation ~~ interlacing thingy worked
hollow garnet
ok don't click on this if flashing lights are bad for you
it really doesn't help that while watching this my monitor is the brightest light in my room
safe monolith
bred you need to be bored more
hollow garnet
i unfortunately have to write code other than arg stuff because of a school project
safe monolith
can you run this through the shifting program?
hollow garnet
so this is all the boredom you get this weekend
hollow garnet
can you run this through the shifting program?
thats on my laptop gimme a minute
safe monolith
thanks bred 🙏
safe monolith
still no mouth
hollow garnet
on the left i added two frames together (e.g 1 + 2 replaces frames one and two). on the right is that deinterlaced
hollow garnet
thats on my laptop gimme a minute
tailscale is being a pain
dapper wraith
on the left i added two frames together (e.g 1 + 2 replaces frames one and two)....
just to make sure: you added the odd lines of frame 1 with the even lines of frame 2 (or vice versa), right?
safe monolith
i think it's functionally equivalent
hollow garnet
safe monolith
yeah functionally equivalent
hollow garnet
god why is it stuck here :(
safe monolith
yeah functionally equivalent
unless somehow there aren't alternating empty lines per frame in even.mp4
timid swift
god why is it stuck here :(
invalid installation
safe monolith
anti-cheat
hollow garnet
surely
dapper wraith
unless somehow there aren't alternating empty lines per frame in even.mp4
which would explain the deinterlacer blanking out every 2nd frame in the previous attempt...
safe monolith
ah yeah. but a normal deinterlacer won't work with even.mp4, so i don't think we can call this operation "deinterlacing"
using very abstract terms, deinterlacing uses a window that shifts by a frame. here we're deinterlacing 2 frames, then stepping by 2 frames
timid swift
just so i understand, what is the inspiration for this approach?
safe burrow
safe monolith
1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4
deinterlacing: even (1) + odd (2), even (2) + odd (3) [blank], even (3) + odd (4)
bred thingy: even (1) + odd (2), even (3) + odd (4), ...
@dapper wraith is this what our understanding is
hollow garnet
just so i understand, what is the inspiration for this approach?
boredom
timid swift
fair, its good to noodle around
hollow garnet
ok here's the stuff for the evens
dapper wraith
1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4
deinterlacing: even (1) + odd (2), even (2) + odd (3) [blank], ...
I don't think so? why are both the odd and even lines are taken two frames?
like usual interlacing would have every second line blank/not present
timid swift
ok here's the stuff for the evens
is it just me or is the image easier to make out in the video?
dapper wraith
it is. the overall contrast seems to be higher
hollow garnet
and the odds
i can't tell if i cooked something here but the error bars on this are pretty neat
actually they're probably a bit fucked because of noise in the video
safe monolith
Hmm, maybe my understanding of interlacing is off.
As I understand, suppose I have 4 full frames. To save bandwidth, I cut each frame in alternating order. So, given some data:
Frame 1: Only even
Frame 2: Only odd
Frame 3: Only even
Frame 4: Only odd
To trick the viewer, I overlay the evens and odds, and swap them out one by one.
So, (1, Null) -> (1,2) -> (3,2) -> (3,4)
As I understand, bred's ffmpeg command does this instead:
(1,2) -> (3,4)
hollow garnet
ok wait lemme try and explain what im doing
lost niche
Dam its gotten hella clear
timid swift
Hmm, maybe my understanding of interlacing is off.
As I understand, suppose I h...
sounds about right, but also because the "pixels" needed time to deactivate and stop lighting up
hollow garnet
offset = True
take each frame:
offset = !offset
offset_int = 1 if offest else 0
evens = (line for line in image if line_index + offset_int % 2 == 0)
odds = (line for line in image if line_index + offset_int % 2 == 1)
between each line on evens, apply a full line of black pixels; if offset_int = 1, add a black line before aswell
between each line on odds, apply a full line of black pixels; if offset_int = 0, add a black line before
save the evens as an image
save odds as an image
convert all the evens into even.mp4
convert all the odds into odd.mp4
the black pixels are there to maintain the video height
safe monolith
Yeah in that case I dunno why normal deinterfacing doesn't work
hollow garnet
ngl the variable names made more sense in my head
timid swift
no padding and neuro goes squish:
hollow garnet
Yeah in that case I dunno why normal deinterfacing doesn't work
because normal deinterlacing isn't expecting the actual black lines
safe monolith
Oh and the resolution are kept the same?
timid swift
ngl the variable names made more sense in my head
isn't that always how it is?
lost niche
Hmm
hollow garnet
well idk if my maths checks out but they're supposed to
safe monolith
If you x2 the output video height surely normal deinterlacing will work but scuffed
timid swift
if you added a padding line before the odds, there probably should also be padding after the evens to keep resolution
hollow garnet
i mean the way i create the images that space is already filled with a black line so it doesn't matter
timid swift
ah
safe monolith
@dapper wraith sorry can you explain your pov why deinterlace isn't working? Something isn't clicking for me
timid swift
here's a random thought: What if there's teletext in the black borders
dapper wraith
we would be able to see that
timid swift
well, so much for that thought
hollow garnet
also im suprised that the file off of youtube came as a webm
i swear they were all mp4s
or this might just be bad memory
safe monolith
They still have mp4 streams
timid swift
i got an mp4 at least
hollow garnet
i got webm for this one
hollow garnet
maybe
timid swift
webm isn't streamable?
dapper wraith
here's a random thought: What if there's teletext in the black borders
I can't find an image of what it looks like but you would see a digital signal in the blank space (+ teletext would usually be in the vertical blanking which we don't have in the video)
timid swift
yes, i recall seeing it before, i just can't remember what it looked like
safe monolith
Probably a skill issue
can confirm was a skill issue
timid swift
i was gonna say, it would be wild if that was the case for a format designed for web-use
also, time to rewatch this whole playlist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4UgZBs7ZGo&list=PLv0jwu7G_DFUGEfwEl0uWduXGcRbT7Ran
dapper wraith
yes, i recall seeing it before, i just can't remember what it looked like
was about to post their video for the teletext thingy
this is what it looks like for (US) closed capitations (which works similarly to teletext) https://youtu.be/6SL6zs2bDks&t=374
hollow garnet
ok wtf
i was messing around with how i do my averages
those errors are really consistent
surely not a bug in my code
timid swift
now what is this?
hollow garnet
you see, its going to make complete sense
timid swift
uhuh
hollow garnet
instead of using the commented out bit to find the offset i do this
timid swift
alright, so you're back at it with the rotation code
I can't really understand that nest
hollow garnet
narrow turtle
Is this even going to reveal anything
hollow garnet
idk
timid swift
maybe, maybe not. That's how ARGs go, and why you gonna have fun with it cause everything can be a dead end
hollow garnet
abstract horizon
oh wow her eyes are bleeding
too much time on the phone made his eyes bleed
timid swift
that or going crazy
hollow garnet
what weirds me out is that this noise doesn't really look random
safe monolith
What's with the new formula though, you're considering a window of 20 now?
hollow garnet
im messing about with the window
abstract horizon
what weirds me out is that this noise doesn't really look random
I doubt it is random, they are very specific and with very strange patterns to be random
timid swift
oh the stretchy star thing is back
hollow garnet
it feels like an artifact of a tan function or something idk
safe monolith
this man feels
abstract horizon
azure oyster
i think most men feel
safe monolith
ok but assuming you are right, tan is mostly one way if our domain is unbounded
safe monolith
How did the window error thingy do this
abstract horizon
strange patterns, at one point you see several fragments/clips of streams passing quickly (I think they are clips of streams), can you imagine that those clips are only neuro V1? I would be shocked 😮
hollow garnet
it was like a window of 100 and instead of dividing by 3 it was 5
hollow garnet
What is this sorcery
botched contrast checker
safe monolith
that's crazy
timid swift
could you post the code?
hollow garnet
but with none of the contrast checking
uh
gimme two minutes I need to turn my laptop on again
timid swift
eh, post it tomorrow then, it's late
safe monolith
I'm assuming it's the same but the error checking uses this window sorcery
abstract horizon
hmmm this becomes more interesting with every second that passes, plus we have the phone number which we don't know if it's still useful or what it's used for.
safe monolith
Do i attempt to understand why it works in theory or do I just trust bred's ultra instinct
hollow garnet
I'm assuming it's the same but the error checking uses this window sorcery
it also rotates each line left by the window size
do not trust me
there is no instinct, only bad code
timid swift
Mad scientist code or not, we'll polish it up.
timid swift
thanks!
hollow garnet
now you can enjoy true schizo code
safe monolith
it's not just the code, it's also why this works
timid swift
it's only been like an hour since you last posted your code, and the entire thing is totally ripped to shreds lmao
hollow garnet
oh no I have two different versions
one on my pc and one on my laptop
they do different things
safe monolith
ok one of two things
timid swift
when you wake up tomorrow you'll have one on your phone as well, that you don't remember typing up
safe monolith
- The shift was just a fixed sequence all along
- idk coincidence?
hollow garnet
- wizards or smth idk
safe monolith
The error picture is too nice for it to not be a sequence surely
hollow garnet
I mean that's probably got something to do with half the lines being black
safe monolith
true
timid swift
oh, this is on the evens. I wonder what it'd look like on the original
narrow turtle
Hiyori needs better recording software smh
abstract horizon
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/1c24302b4c5548be84595cb32d438136
Uuuh, nice work
abstract horizon
ok im going to sleep its 2341
Goodnight
tulip minnow
in my theory the reason why hiyori's eyes are bleeding is because she's dead and most of the time, ghosts are creepy . If you're a ghost and you're not creepy, that's just sad tbh.
well it's more like a fact instead of theory now
zinc hinge
and thats just a theory, A GAME TH~ ima stop there
turbid ingot
I uhh, don't think her eyes are bleeding lol. It's the brush lines of the blushing on her cheeks.
It's come up before lol
The original image is here. The lines they used to mark the blushing is just being darkened by the effects used on the image.
well, maybe. Dunno. It does weird things here and there.
Could be wrong on that, since the right eye (on our left) doesn't have that strong of blush lines, so maybe it was edited in after all.
Or a different image was used in the same pose.
manic dagger
timid swift
what is this from? It doesn't read like wikipedia
uncut cargo
from a site called tv tropes
timid swift
ah, of course
uncut cargo
though still, doesn't give much more context to anything
but few examples can somewhat apply
Supernatural death, maybe she was slowly being killed. If we consider hiyori as the study girl it could be engineer trauma or using herself for the AI might've resulted in brain damage. HECK MAYBE SHE OPENED DIGITAL GATEWAY TO HELL, WHO KNOWS.
Second example "poetic and beautiful" death. We all share memories of hiyori streams and we all enjoyed them so seeing her go for the neuro V2 was both sad and progressive.
Third example utterly evil presence, we don't know hiyori's motives. She may the victim, the villain or the evil. Hiyori's been slowly invading the streams. She might have good intentions or it may even be envy or wrath and need for revenge or redemption.
unique mason
woah yall back to cooking 
unique mason
have the interlaced images not been added to the docs yet?
schizo thought
what if
we overlay the small pieces of the qr code from the halloween stream with the original qr code in the debut stream?
or the next time qr code
where is the original qr code, i cant find it
oh found it
timid swift
have the interlaced images not been added to the docs yet?
Not yet, but you're right that we should document some of the deinterlacing attempts.
unique mason
||totally didnt spend 20 minutes trying to overlay the qr codes only to find the dimensions dont match one bit ||
timid swift
do we even know if it's a qr code?
timid swift
just saying we might want to keep our minds open to the possibility that it is something else
unique mason
timid swift
Ok, i have written a bit about the deinterlacing process https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dL6lH_qnlXMgpIXyc02Q3qpB78_vWyUgKV_pEo7H_Cw/edit#heading=h.8p8o8ecbitfo
Bred was able to do some further magic yesterday evening, but I didn't really get it
unique mason
||totally didnt spend 20 minutes trying to overlay the qr codes only to find the...
well, tried to do it, got redirected to the channel still
well yea
there goes an hour "well spent"
unique mason
there goes an hour "well spent"
not like this shows up anything but here is my best effort at overlaying
timid swift
where'd you even get all those pixels?
unique mason
where'd you even get all those pixels? <:neurowheeze:1126151823925977220>
well, i first tried it with this:
but it led to the _neurosama channel aswell
so i went for the other one
these r from the splinter halloween doc
timid swift
yeah, exactly. Waay too few pixels
unique mason
well, i first tried it with this:
and anyways this isnt even the same dimensions as the original qr
unique mason
yeah, exactly. Waay too few pixels
thought trying to overlay it with other qr codes might give smth but no
wait actually
i just realised
i didnt overlay it correctly
timid swift
oh i see
unique mason
only filled in the black pixels and not the white ones
i go try again
there is also the option of reversing the pixels
but ill see
timid swift
try it. Long shot but I don't understand QR well enough to say that it won't give anything
unique mason
same
yea...
i tried my best 
didnt show anything up
dont think overlaying is going to work
atleast not by me
taking out the white spaces didnt give anything
safe monolith
Error correction will always correct it back to the _neurosama channel, since we just don't have enough bits
timid swift
unless we butcher the errorcorrection~
safe monolith
May try it eventually
abstract horizon
in my theory the reason why hiyori's eyes are bleeding is because she's dead and...
I have three theories
first: she is the missing sister because there is the neuro V1 model and another girl from study and public static void
second: his eyes bleed from the phone too much (joke)
third: the same theory as you
unique mason
what if instead of her eyes bleeding its her makeup mixing with her tears?
she could be crying which leads to her mascara(I think thats what its called?) streaming down
unique mason
what if instead of her eyes bleeding its her makeup mixing with her tears?
also, this might relate to iris(study girl) seeing the "ghost" in some way
abstract horizon
also, this might relate to iris(study girl) seeing the "ghost" in some way
Hmmm very true
unique mason
i dont have enough braincells to do more theorycrafting after the fanfic story man
there is ia giant theory doc in the drive btw, it is very schizo
abstract horizon
i dont have enough braincells to do more theorycrafting after the fanfic story m...
Fanfic story?
unique mason
but u might like to go through it
unique mason
Fanfic story? <:NeuroHuh:1071414397752332429>
something im cooking up for the arg, got inspired by the first three~ videos and decided to start writing one
abstract horizon
i dont have enough braincells to do more theorycrafting after the fanfic story m...
What fanfic story?
unique mason
tho, life is in the way
exams and now sat
abstract horizon
something im cooking up for the arg, got inspired by the first three~ videos and...
Aaaah
Ok, good luck
unique mason
something im cooking up for the arg, got inspired by the first three~ videos and...
keep in mind the story we r getting now from the descriptions is quite a bit different from the fanfic
which is good in a way ig
dapper wraith
oh, this is on the evens. I wonder what it'd look like on the original
I ran the original video without any deinterlacing through breds latest program and it looks pretty much identical to me aside from the video being darker (which I think comes from breds "deinterlacing" technique adding a bunch of black lines to the image)
abstract horizon
Is there a theory section in the document?
Pls say no
dapper wraith
Pls say no
abstract horizon
<:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12GcN8a0...
Oh well, actually nice
Aside from the lore issue, the songs are really good, I like to listen to them.
timid swift
I ran the original video without any deinterlacing through breds latest program ...
Awesome! Now if only I understood what it did.
It's pretty interesting that the "zoom" effect near the end does not distort the image of neuro
abstract horizon
Aside from the lore issue, the songs are really good, I like to listen to them.
and the fact that we racked our brains to figure it out, we have to admit that the songs are very good, I love listening to them when I'm bored or they appear on YouTube
safe monolith
practically, he's calculating error (the pivot pixel position) by taking a window of 100, counting all the white bits in it, then subtracting that by 100/5 (for reasons). then, he shifts to that pivot pixel position
theoretically, this makes no sense
edit: instead of 100 it's 75 in the actual code it seems
unless something changed since yesterday
unique mason
Is there a theory section in the document?
yea there is a whole document in the drive for it
timid swift
practically, he's calculating error (the pivot pixel position) by taking a windo...
no that's pretty much what I saw in the code as well. I just don't understand what it means. Like at all. Why it works. Magic variables asides, i don't really understand what it's detecting
abstract horizon
yea there is a whole document in the drive for it
many theories in the weak section currently
unique mason
safe monolith
no that's pretty much what I saw in the code as well. I just don't understand wh...
literally magic, i didn't have the time to understand the theory
unique mason
the strong ones rn dont really add up to any story tho
safe monolith
could actually be magic, but maybe there is a logical explanation
abstract horizon
no that's pretty much what I saw in the code as well. I just don't understand wh...
we are in the same
unique mason
practically, he's calculating error (the pivot pixel position) by taking a windo...
right, i understood everything except for what the heck doing that does
timid swift
could actually be magic, but maybe there is a logical explanation
I thought magic came in perl packages, not rust
uncut cargo
did you guys schizo to the point you discovered magic?
this thread is just keep leveling up
timid swift
bred did
uncut cargo
Bred 👍
unique mason
did you guys schizo to the point you discovered magic?
not us, bred
timid swift
forbidden bred magic
dapper wraith
right, i understood everything except for what the heck doing that does <:neurow...
I'm pretty sure this is just detecting a dark edge (of over 15 pixels) but over a window of 75 instead of a single pixel transition.
unique mason
oh i think i kind of get it after looking at what interlacing is
safe monolith
is 255 black or white
timid swift
white i'd imagine
unique mason
its shifting the black and white "edges" that are(apparently) 15 pixels long to where they form a cohesive image
or smth
mayeb
idk
safe monolith
I'm pretty sure this is just detecting a dark edge (of over 15 pixels) but over ...
but in theory that'll be doable just by counting? what's the point of - 75/5?
unique mason
is 255 black or white
255 255 255 is white 
255 could be red or green or blue 
timid swift
it's a grayscale image
unique mason
its shifting the black and white "edges" that are(apparently) 15 pixels long to ...
so like the video is motion blurred to an extreme, and bred is undoing that
somehow
timid swift
for some reason
timid swift
Did you read about the previous rotation approach? It might give some context
safe monolith
ok suppose i have 4 cases per window of 75:
> 75/5 white pixels< 75/5 white pixels- all white
- all black
Then I will have the following results:
- positive small number -> 0 < x < 75 - 75/5
- negative very small number -> 0 < x < 75/5
- positive 75 - 75/5 -> 75 - 75/5
- negative 75/5 -> 75/5
edited to skul's comments
so i guess the code checks for the most drastic transition, regardless of white and black?
wait, lemme edit that
timid swift
its in the docs right?
yee
unique mason
i havent seen the code(not that id understand it) but from what u said before wouldnt the all black row be disregarded?
unique mason
yee
yea then i think i remember reading some of it
flew over my head
ig ill try to read it again later
dapper wraith
ok suppose i have 4 cases per window of 75:
1. `> 75/5 white pixels`
2. `< 75/5 ...
You mean 75/5 right? since 75 windows can't have more than 75 white pixels.
safe monolith
oh shiz, yes
ok this means, look for starting pixel of the most "outstanding" edge, prioritizing white edges
i think
safe monolith
ok suppose i have 4 cases per window of 75:
1. `> 75/5 white pixels`
2. `< 75/5 ...
updated the ranges a bit, I think this is right
safe burrow
dapper wraith
btw did you guys notice the bar on the right edge of the image? (it's more noticeable in the output images than the video)
reminds me of the h-sync CRTs
timid swift
what frame is that?
dapper wraith
178 (after running it through bred's program)
timid swift
hmm, that's pretty curious.
i didn't actually get the program to run.
oh i see, it was just a config issue. It's running now.
and it would make sense if there were synchronization markers. But that sorta looks like it's inside the picture?
the frame 178 i get doesn't look like that, not sure why
dapper wraith
yeah, I ran the whole thing again and now it's no longer there
timid swift
mine's still running. Poor baby cpu
timber whale
oh shit i looked away for a couple days
are we cooking again?
timid swift
yea. I'll update the time sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BCpJA-2GlmjzrxFIEA2pq5Xt6QuAaUI-2L_iAcAnl6Y/edit#gid=521227060 Also snug in a note about bred's other approach that I don't understand
speaking of the devil
lmao don't you dare add a react and go quiet
hollow garnet
😔 that snippet in the google doc is giving me theme envy because my current one doesn't have the mutability underlines
timid swift
you can update it if you want.
hollow garnet
thought so, just kinda want to figure out if i can get the mutability underlines in the theme i use
rust-analyzer, probably
timid swift
add it to the pile of reasons i don't tinker with themes :p
hollow garnet
i only really tinker because the default light theme is too light for me
timid swift
dare i ask the obvious question?
hollow garnet
who would ever program outside of a cave
timid swift
please, cave people program in caves. It's a den.
timid swift
read above or check the timeline doc for the keynotes
hollow garnet
mine's still running. Poor baby cpu
also I just want to say make sure you run it in release, it only takes like 20 seconds on my laptop
hollow garnet
fair enough
wraith goblet
y'all figure out anything with the deinterlacing stuff? IF not you can try using QTGMC and just exoprt evert other frame.
it does an internal bob
timid swift
i know some of these words
wraith goblet
lol I know a lot about this stuff. Dealing with bad analog to digital conversions is common on older DVDs and Laser Discs.
timid swift
I was not aware interlacing was still a thing on digital mediums, but I guess it makes some sense if it was still the CRT TVs in the beginning of DVD.
wraith goblet
you still see it on SD blue ray discs today
timid swift
now that I don't understand.
wraith goblet
it's not common, but it does happen. Mostly when they basically just repress old DVD masters onto blueray
timid swift
ah yes, carrying on the legacy stuff
gritty thorn
all of this speaking of fixing the static made me remind that the main theme of "Public static void" was that everything had some sort of static effect. It might be nothing, just throwing this thought out here. (there's no way Vedal would make a 3 min video just for the first 20 seconds to be useful for something)
oak current
2:44 5:34 7:22 8:09 8:46 9:24 10:03 11:04 11:39 11:56 12:01 12:17 13:40 14:05 THE NUMBERS SCHIZO THE NUMBERS SCHIZO CLUE SCHIZO CLUE SCHIZO
distant rune
2:44 **5:34** **7:22** *8:09* **8:46** *9:24* *10:03* **11:04** **11:39** *11:56...
A lot of the glitches are just Evil.
I doubt it's ARG related, it's mostly to show how evil Neuro was during the roast.
unique mason
any updates since yesterday?
timid swift
unique mason
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BCpJA-2GlmjzrxFIEA2pq5Xt6QuAaUI-2L_iAcA...
oh gosh not the spreadsheet
i dont like the spreadsheet
too overwhelming
timid swift
It's not that hard to look at the most recent dates and see if something's changed :p
safe burrow
drowsy quarry
☕
timid swift
that said, since we only really use one dimension of the time sheet (up-down, since left-right are fixed positions) we could easily convert it into another text document. If that would make it easier to read
abstract horizon
Good morning 
tulip minnow
tomorrow will be the day i can finally finish my theory
uncut cargo
abstract horizon
tomorrow will be the day i can finally finish my theory<:sillycat:10850115525303...
Nice
abstract horizon
<a:pepeD:567866544386867250>
abstract horizon
I am very happy today
azure oyster
turbid ingot
damn I'm sorry to hear that
abstract horizon
?
What happen?
I'm going crazy, in the last video (for now) that Vedal uploaded to his YouTube channel, he added static effects and although I know they have nothing to do with the ARG, I went crazy and started analyzing them carefully
abstract horizon
0694f1cd8cf96baca1fca30515e13dd06d490a23
<:evilHappy:1128804580596142200>
Hi
hollow garnet
I'm going crazy, in the last video (for now) that Vedal uploaded to his YouTube ...
which account / video are you referring to?
abstract horizon
which account / video are you referring to?
The normal not the ARG or the vod
abstract horizon
https://youtu.be/ZbcTZB6DuxY this video?
Yes
I am crazy
The next step is the schizo theories? Maybe who know
pulsar glen
I'm going crazy, in the last video (for now) that Vedal uploaded to his YouTube ...
The YouTube videos are edited by some other person Vedal paid.
It is safe to presume that whatever is added if not directly related is irrelevant to the ARG
azure oyster
agreed
coral hazel
I like to think it may be related, and here is my reasoning:
- as vedal paid the editor, he may just ask him to include it or even give him some arg context (DO NOT ASK/RESEARCH THEM FOR CLUE)
- "@_neurosama" is an "alt account", we assumed alt of "@Neurosama", the official channel where the video is posted
- "Glitchs" look like (but are not the same) some arg "glitchs" (bar glitch).
- Some of the glitch have an evil on top of neuro (example on screenshot)
I only see 2 reason as why it may be the case (I'm probably missing a lot) - Representing neuro being more evil than evil on those roast
- Related to the arg (we know evil is related to the arg <- deciphered evil text)
My personal opinion is, it's only foreshadowing for an incoming arg event.
abstract horizon
Maybe
abstract horizon
I have a schizo theory, what if the glitch mouse is part of the QR code? It has very curious glitches and they give that feeling (or maybe I'm already starting to fall into madness)
Maybe
tulip minnow
I like to think it may be related, and here is my reasoning:
- as vedal paid the...
And the style is different also I doubt the puppet master has that much spare time
tulip minnow
I have a schizo theory, what if the glitch mouse is part of the QR code? It has ...
You can try to merge it with the qr code we have
coral hazel
And the style is different also I doubt the puppet master has that much spare ti...
That is a valid counterargument, I'm probably just biased: I want something to happen on evil new model reveal or subathon/aniversary or Christmas or new year or next time or etc...
I'm just gaslighting myself.
coral hazel
That is a valid counterargument, I'm probably just biased: I want something to h...
I'm actually biased like this bc every new "stream clue mechanics" was from "new outfit" in event (debut -> v2 model & Halloween -> Halloween outfit)
extrapolating data with n = 2 is always a good idea
timid swift
name changed. I'm pretty sure i looked at it just yesterday
safe monolith
woah
timid swift
you can't change the video itself once it's uploaded, right?
safe monolith
The description is different too
timid swift
wait, what was the description before?
def shift_characters(message):
return ''.join([char if char == ' ' else chr(ord(char) - 1) for char in message])
message = "hello world!"
while True:
message = shift_characters(message)
print(message)
description now
safe monolith
Description was the G4 thing
safe monolith
erm moment
timid swift
I wasn't even trying to go to the arg neuro channel, just youtube
hollow garnet
that doesn't seem dissimilar to the previous solution of the name does it
timid swift
i'll have to read that again, i've completely forgotten
timid swift
what is that?
hollow garnet
i put the old title into the code you posted
timid swift
oh i see
hollow garnet
solution is about here
cobalt axle
what if you put the key (the g4 one) into the code?
hollow garnet
what if you put the key (the g4 one) into the code?
timid swift
what if you put the key (the g4 one) into the code?
abstract horizon
Wow
timid swift
what if the code is a hint about how to rotate the lines in the video
cobalt axle
this is the second clue that uses the words "hello world" maybe it's telling us that there's something in the hello world video we haven't discovered?
timid swift
hello world is extremely common in programming
cobalt axle
yeah but using it two times in a row after everyone asumed the hello world was useles seems suspicious to me
timid swift
could be
abstract horizon
Hello world again
timid swift
did it have any text?
hollow garnet
timid swift
did it have any text?
we could try rotating that. The description and the transcription
abstract horizon
we could try rotating that. The description and the transcription
We can try
uncut cargo
you can't change the video itself once it's uploaded, right?
you can a little, through youtube editor but it has very limited functions
hollow garnet
honestly im even more confused now
safe monolith
what if the code is a hint about how to rotate the lines in the video
tbh same
abstract horizon
honestly im even more confused now
Me too
safe monolith
wrong reply
safe burrow
abstract horizon
safe monolith
i was thinking how it could be a hint to rotate the video, but how exactly? ignore empty pixels, for all white pixel shift it one position to the left?
timid swift
ok, so rather limited
hollow garnet
(audio seems to only give you the youtube audio library)
timid swift
for replacing copyright claimed music, makes sense
hollow garnet
the video looks to be the same length from a quick glance
safe monolith
to do an exact test we need both the old and new frames
abstract horizon
You can try to merge it with the qr code we have<:sillycat:1085011552530346126>
I don't have a PC
timid swift
to do an exact test we need both the old and new frames <:NeuroClueless:10729013...
i mean jokes aside, we could probably checksum it
safe monolith
thanks bred
timid swift
same, got it.
hollow garnet
top one is the "new" one, bottom is the old one (not that it matters because they're the same)
safe monolith
can we run it on audio as well?
hollow garnet
just fyi the file hashes are different
hollow garnet
these are hashes of the video i think?
safe monolith
just fyi the file hashes are different
it's probably that video metadata are different. based on whatever downloader you're using
safe monolith
these are hashes of the video i think?
0:v though
timid swift
just fyi the file hashes are different
the file has the video name inside it as metadata right?
safe monolith
okay so video's the same
hollow garnet
different hashing algo than the other ones but they're the same
for these i used ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -map 0 -c copy -f streamhash -hash md5 -
timid swift
can you post a pic of the whole thing, bred? I'll put it in the docs
unless it's a giant terminal mess then nevermind :D
pulsar glen
Doesn't the fact that the list comprehension only accounts for space as a whitespace character suggest the input data should be oneline
hollow garnet
its quite a mess
timid swift
alright no worries
safe monolith
yeah I think we can just document the commands
safe monolith
Doesn't the fact that the list comprehension only accounts for space ` ` as a wh...
probably right tbh
hmm I think, we're receiving this because we had some trouble figuring out the method to get the title
it was more or less trial and error based on unicode rotation. i think this is a hint to write a tool to perform a shift, then feed each line to malbolge until something makes sense?
in the future maybe we'll start to get random looking unicode as part of a more complicated solve
hollow garnet
this is neat looking
timid swift
wouldn't that strip any queryparameters?
hollow garnet
yeah its just a cool random button that appeared
timid swift
wait, the thumbnail changed too
safe monolith
i wonder if replacing the title with [FILTERED] means anything
hollow garnet
i didn't notice lol
safe monolith
hmm. the video went from (some manner of communication) -> (filtered)
we got code for both [Filtered] and hello world!, both of which are related to hello world
lore department pls cook something
hollow garnet
looks like you can either pick a frame from the video or upload one after the fact
safe monolith
thumbnail is .jpg, so no possibility of hidden metadata. potentially could still be encoding something
timid swift
if i remember correctly, once upon a time people used to hide a single frame inside the video so they could use it as thumbnail. So youtube changed it to let you just upload any thumbnail instead
hollow garnet
timid swift
that's the one
suppose it is one of our frames, would we be able to check which easily?
safe monolith
bred my man, can you run a hash of this image against all frames
oh good same brainwave
timid swift
hash
safe monolith
instead of hashing the file, we could hash just the pixel data. i think that's what ffmpeg does anyway
timid swift
i'm not an expert, but unless an expert could voice an opinion, i would be suspicious of any lossy format compares
cunning osprey
It's possible to calculate the difference between the thumbnail and every frame of the video
Should be easy to spot matching frames visually then
hollow garnet
ffmpeg is having at me beacuse the video and the image are different sizes
timid swift
It's possible to calculate the difference between the thumbnail and every frame ...
should be possible. The one(s) with the lowest scores could be checked manually
safe monolith
https://stackoverflow.com/a/6081177 might be possible with imagemagick to get a score-like
imma try
timid swift
hell ya
timid swift
hey if it works and isn't a recurring task
hollow garnet
ok well i made a scuffed way and its between 11 and 13 seconds
timid swift
what's the framerate, again?
hollow garnet
29.97
timid swift
oh yea, That Scuffed Number TM
safe monolith
script still running at frame 600
wsl mnts are blazingly fast i know
btw i upscaled the 720p thumbnail to 1080p for this. will try the other way after it's done
timid swift
well if bred is right it should already have processed it now
abstract horizon
hmm. the video went from (some manner of communication) -> (filtered)
we got co...
[filtered] like the roommate vtuber?
timid swift
319 - 390
rounded down and up cause i was too lazy do it right so i just made sure it wasn't too narrow
timid swift
title, thumbnail and video description changed, we're figuring out what it's supposed to mean
safe monolith
this is the lowest one so far, frame 495
timid swift
frame 388 looks a lot like it
safe monolith
lemme check the score
abstract horizon
[FILTERED] appeared in the description of the previous video, which said that [FILTERED] wanted to debut as a vtuber
hello word may be related to the video hello world, there is my theory for now
safe monolith
this is the lowest one so far, frame 495
0.260523 (lower is better)
timid swift
hollow garnet
bread can you send frame 388 rq
timid swift
rq? are you ragequitting?
timid swift
wait
safe monolith
inb4 not the same 388
safe monolith
nani why different
timid swift
is your first frame frame 0?
abstract horizon
Everything change? Or just some frames?
safe monolith
oh my first frame is 1
timid swift
nothing's changed, we're just not coordinated
timid swift
oh my first frame is 1
hmm, same
safe monolith
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timid swift
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timid swift
wait that insinuates that i'm zero based. But i don't have a frame 0
pulsar glen
phantom frames
safe monolith
deadge
hollow garnet
who needs frames
timid swift
what's the score of your 387, vanor?
pulsar glen
I just noticed in the doc, what is an eye timetable
hollow garnet
timid swift
wait that insinuates that i'm zero based. But i don't have a frame 0
no wait, i'm wrong, the other way around
timid swift
yeah, it looks different. Close but different
hollow garnet
this video is toggling between the thumbnail and 388
honestly looks a lot like jpeg compression
toggle maxresdefault on this if you want to see it for yourself
timid swift
could be. I'm not really versed in lossy compression consequences
timid swift
I just noticed in the doc, what is an eye timetable
The eyes were doing some funny stuff in the loading screen to the halloween stream
safe monolith
let me check if we have more of those numbers
safe monolith
[('frame_0387.png', 0.154337), ('frame_0158.png', 0.24635), ('frame_0164.png', 0.247209), ('frame_2244.png', 0.247508), ('frame_0159.png', 0.248379)]
so yeah, frame 0387 beats everyone
cunning osprey
can confirm, frame 388 (or 387, whatever) from the 720p video has an RMSE of 0.00859184
far better than any other frame
timid swift
frame 388/387 with bred's black magic algorithm
hollow garnet
surely this is different to the other frames with the dark magic
timid swift
<:YEP:1144368368133095424> can confirm, frame 388 (or 387, whatever) from the 72...
heck ya. Don't know what RMSE is, but heck ya!
safe monolith
root mean square error
safe monolith
we've verified the video & audio didn't change, the thumbnail is likely chosen from the video.
the most notable change is the title and description. the description contains code that will eventually solve the title, which solves the previous description
title became filtered.
what are the chances the change was cuz youtube decided the title doesn't conform to community guidelines
timid swift
"oh shit, hey throw some python in there too totally deliberate ARG master"
pulsar glen
If the title was changed because of a YouTube policy it would be counter-intuitive to make the description have the code for solving titles that won't show up anymore
timid swift
you say that as if the other ARG solutions have been super intuitive
it could be a pretty cool ARG move to make information only temporarily available if you know your solvers take and share notes
cunning osprey
The previous thumbnail matches frame 1584 (also with high confidence)
timid swift
oh yeah, don't know why i didn't think to look at the old one too
well, i've written both in the docs
safe burrow
Looking at these images, my left eye started to hurt. <:evilDeadge:1150735483396...
I'll go put on my glasses, without them I'll lose my sight.
abstract horizon
The eyes were doing some funny stuff in the loading screen to the halloween stre...
Halloween stream again
timid swift
again?
abstract horizon
<:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100> surely this is different to the other frame...
Dark magic, I create that magic.
timid swift
pretty sure that was certified bred magic
hollow garnet
abstract horizon
I'll go put on my glasses, without them I'll lose my sight.
I always have my glasses on
safe burrow
I always have my glasses on
I can't find where they are.
abstract horizon
I don't have a computer or laptop so I can't verify the theory I've had for a week.
abstract horizon
I can't find where they are. <:evilDeadge:1150735483396161586>
I have such a bad memory that I literally go to the bathroom and when I come out I don't remember where I left my glasses.
15 seconds
timid swift
so the python script
def shift_characters(message):
return ''.join([char if char == ' ' else chr(ord(char) - 1) for char in message])
message = "hello world!"
while True:
message = shift_characters(message)
print(message)
it subtracts 1 each of the characters in the string, prints that, repeat until it crashes from trying to make 0/-1 into a character.
Suppose it's the method not the output that's important, what does that translate to for an image? Making all pixels dimmer until one reaches 0?
abstract horizon
Hello world
safe burrow
I have such a bad memory that I literally go to the bathroom and when I come out...
For me it's much more complicated .
pulsar glen
so the python script
```python
def shift_characters(message):
return ''.join...
no, it doesn't crash, rather eventually every character is a space which is the first printable ascii
abstract horizon
For me it's much more complicated .
I forget everything almost instantly, usually 15 seconds and I already forgot something, keep in mind that just 2 years ago I remembered the day I was born
timid swift
no, it doesn't crash, rather eventually every character is a space ` ` which is ...
python chr(-1) just gets moved into range then?
no, give me a moment to figure this out. Haven't done much python
pulsar glen
no, it just never reaches -1, space is number 32, at which point it stops subtracting
timid swift
Right, and space is lower than the others, now i got it
also, why do expression for-loops exist. That is such a painful feature
hollow garnet
still can't tell if this has any meaning or if its just a byproduct of printing a bunch of lines
timid swift
It's pretty cool looking either way
digital radish
so the python script
```python
def shift_characters(message):
return ''.join...
wtf this code is kinda stupid
timid swift
not much, we identified where in the video the new thumnail is from, old one too
also yes, it's silly code
azure oyster
the silly code is confirmation that vedal created the arg
wraith goblet
I bet it's copy pasted
Also I do have the old video on my pc intact, but I am at work
timid swift
ah yes, we also did confirm that it's the same video. checksum checks out
tulip minnow
Bro i just love time zones so freaking much
Anyway I finished my theory on the latest clue
You can check it out in the doc
For the change today,my theory will also be in the doc 
abstract horizon
For the change today,my theory will also be in the doc <:neuroDerp:1155279208096...
When I have time, I will read your theory
It would be good if we made a section with the people who have contributed the most to solving the ARG
When I get a computer or laptop I will try to reconstruct the QR code (Maybe when I have a computer or laptop the arg will have been completely resolved)
fathom ginkgo
frame 388/387 with bred's black magic algorithm
looks like hiyori
digital radish
the python code basically returns the letter before
lets say you put bcd
you should get abc
atleast thats what i think
it returns an array so i might be wrong
literally 2 things i've never used which is chr and ord
i can see what ord does but not what chr does
chr(ord(a)) returns the unicode
ill try simplifying the code
# lets say the new characters go in an array
array = []
for char in message:
if char == ' ' # space
array.insert(0, char)
else:
new_char = chr(ord(char) - 1) # if the character is "b" , returns "a"
array.insert(0, new_char)
not sure when checking if char is space, if it passes or adds space to the array
digital radish
considering this result i think it appends the space to the array
so ill change that
i wonder what this means, maybe its telling us an algorithm or something?
also im still pretty sure theres no qr code hidden
i think this explains why
not stopping you from trying to find a qr code, i might be very wrong
zinc hinge
i can see what ord does but not what chr does
ord converts character to corresponding ascii integer value
chr does the reverse, integer ascii character to character string
digital radish
yep, searched it up
zinc hinge
hmm, which vid? the most recent one im guessin
digital radish
i simplified it above