that's a good sign if true
#Neuro ARG
wind crypt
timid swift
uneven moth
I
pulsar glen
The string is too short for entropy to mean anything
safe monolith
import cv2
import numpy as np
image_path = 'out2.png'
grayscale_image = cv2.imread(image_path, cv2.IMREAD_GRAYSCALE)
def group_into_sublists(arr, chunk_size):
for i in range(0, len(arr), chunk_size):
yield arr[i:i + chunk_size]
if grayscale_image is not None:
bruh = []
for i in grayscale_image:
for j in i:
bruh.append(j)
thing = np.array(list(group_into_sublists(bruh, int(1138*0.5)))[:-1])
cv2.imshow('Bruh', thing)
cv2.waitKey(0)
cv2.destroyAllWindows()
else:
print(f"Could not load the image from {image_path}")
super scuffed code to play around with offsets while waiting for @hollow garnet's GUI thingy
distant rune
Did you guys see that?
digital radish
binary to base64 doesnt give much
timid swift
The string is too short for entropy to mean anything
yes true
whole sorrel
There was something in the stream for like 2 frames or something
unique mason
lol
fading cipher
Did you guys see that?
yes saw it
uneven moth
binary to base64 doesnt give much
Pattern 
river mantle
livestream folk said neuro just blink weird
digital radish
livestream folk said neuro just blink weird
she blinks weird all the time
prime chasm
```
import cv2
import numpy as np
image_path = 'out2.png'
grayscale_image = cv2...
bruh array ? 
umbral tulip
the end of key is G4, so is that the key means the pitch of the video?
hardy burrow
Evil Neuro flashed on strem
https://clips.twitch.tv/BusyLovelyTitanNotLikeThis-0asdrRkwUHTTr2k5
uncut cargo
NEW VIDEO DROPPED?
stable lake
Evil Neuro flashed on strem
https://clips.twitch.tv/BusyLovelyTitanNotLikeThis-0...
evil did WHAT
safe monolith
eys
uncut cargo
HOLY
vapid token
#livestream-chat message nothing special
digital radish
probably to sing
copper acorn
yeah i thought it was to sing and now that i see she has the microphone yeah definitely for singing
timid swift
tutel getting ready for duet
digital radish
vedal being silly
timber whale
i still want to hear I think I saw a Ghost karaoke
even if we will never get it :(
timid swift
don't worry, you'll get it
uneven moth
Tutel is harvesting our schizo to feed neuro
wind crypt
tutel's ad revenue as ARG solvers rewatch his videos 100 times each 📈
sterile steeple
The title turns into a very nice colour when turned into a bitmap 
timber whale
pretty!
arctic badger
flagged as bots 📉
wind crypt
that is a nice colour 
timber whale
very close to my fav color
uneven moth
It looks edible. I don’t know how else to explain it
wind crypt
your favourite colour is lemon right
safe monolith
The title turns into a very nice colour when turned into a bitmap <:catSUS:11573...
what's the hex of this color?
sterile steeple
ccadcd
timber whale
My favorite color is Lavender! 
wind crypt
your name is a lie 
timber whale
I ENJOY lemons
they arent my favorite!
digital radish
uneven moth
what's the hex of this color?
572943
wind crypt
timid swift
imagine tho
sterile steeple
there is a ccadcd in the title string, schizo? <:NeuroClueless:10729013529021031...
The title kinda reminded me of the hex representation of a bitmap, one byte for red, green and blue. Mostly because of the repetitive (potential) red and blue bytes
fringe cloud
vedal didnt took a eek vacation, he planned the lore the whole week for this moment
hollow garnet
rust moment
unique mason
neuro's stories this stream are truly on another level wow
safe monolith
rust moment
typical usable rust size
uneven moth
rust moment
Me when iron oxide
safe monolith
btw is the audio team still audioing
uneven moth
Ewww Java. Do c# at least
wind crypt
why do Microsoft brand java when I can do just java
safe monolith
the fact we're given the last 2 charas of the key either means we're gonna get a wonky string and need verification, or we're only gonna get the first part of the string without G4
sterile steeple
Reject all of the above and embrace C/++
uneven moth
why do Microsoft brand java when I can do just java
Tuples
uneven moth
tuples are lame we already have arrays
Arrays are fixed type
unique mason
Reject all of the above and embrace C/++
why not go to pascal
timid swift
Arrays are fixed type
not in insane languages 
wind crypt
if you need mixed types then use a different kind of data structure
tuples are yucky for that sort of thing
uneven moth
if you need mixed types then use a different kind of data structure
Yeah, like a tuple
timid swift
tuples are great
wind crypt
tuples don't do anything tho
uncut cargo
oh boy can't wait for lore drop from this one 
wind crypt
if you're just passing between functions use multiple parameters
proud lark
makes sense to me
safe monolith
r/programming
wind crypt
if you're doing something with the data you can add that functionality into a class
uneven moth
tuples don't do anything tho
I can return two things from a function without making a structure
timid swift
if you're just passing between functions use multiple parameters
and when returning?
uneven moth
That’s already a plus
wind crypt
won't end up with the return case if you follow the paradigm
wind crypt
anyway off topic sorry for derailing the channel
vapid token
makes sense to me <:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100>
WH
safe monolith
any audio guy still in chat? need to see if the last segment of digital noise corresponds to G4 somehow
unique mason
anyway off topic sorry for derailing the channel
derailing?
The arg channel?
sterile steeple
Got no clue how to extract the digital signals so I dropped the audio'ing for now
unique mason
safe monolith
am i crazy or did someone mention something about the last few notes being G4 or something
that is too many somes in a sentence
sterile steeple
the end of key is G4, so is that the key means the pitch of the video?
.
hollow garnet
who needs a gui when you have windows file viewer
safe monolith
just pipe it to a python script
placid rock
am i crazy or did someone mention something about the last few notes being G4 or...
the second last long line is like half a note below G4
surely that means something
safe monolith
thank you i lacked the audio knowledge to do this
distant rune
Piano notes?
dapper wraith
surely if it's only piano keys/notes we could reduce the values enough to attempt another bruteforce right?
safe monolith
good point
distant rune
the second last long line is like half a note below G4
Reminds me of those piano games that aallows you to assign notes and stuff.
placid rock
there's 10 "notes" total, depending on how you count them, but we only need 8 for the key
placid rock
surely if it's only piano keys/notes we could reduce the values enough to attemp...
definitely bruteforceable
D4
G4
C5
D4
F4
B3
E4
D4
G4
A3
that's my attempted description, with the assumption that every note is one half step too low (so we end up with G4 and no sharps/flats)
tried messing around with that on cyberchef but didn't get anywhere
safe burrow
distant rune
Imagine if it plays Rick Roll
hollow garnet
whoops
digital radish
bruteforcing
safe monolith
damn i'm also writing a script
hollow garnet
i would never
timid swift
wow, your cpu sure is productive
hollow garnet
ok im gonna go do something producetivve but im rendering a video of the scales from 0.25 -> 4 in 0.001 steps
sterile steeple
unique mason
whoops <:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100>
surely itll find smth
timid swift
the word frames sliced to frames
sterile steeple
I wonder if the distorted "Fatal Error" text contains anything worth looking at
timid swift
if nothing else, it should be documented at least
wind crypt
title hexdump at 2 byte intervals
00000000 cd 94 |Í.|
00000002 cc b7 |Ì·|
00000004 cd b0 |Í°|
00000006 cc b4 |Ì´|
00000008 ce 81 |Î.|
0000000a cd ad |Í.|
0000000c cc b1 |̱|
0000000e cd be |;|
00000010 cd 8c |Í.|
00000012 cd aa |ͪ|
00000014 cd 8a |Í.|
00000016 ce 86 |Î.|
00000018 cd 91 |Í.|
0000001a ce 85 |Î.|
0000001c cd b3 |ͳ|
0000001e ce 82 |Î.|
00000020 ce 81 |Î.|
00000022 cc bf |Ì¿|
00000024 cd bf |Í¿|
00000026 cc bd |̽|
00000028 cd 89 |Í.|
0000002a cc bb |Ì»|
0000002c cd bb |Í»|
0000002e cc b8 |̸|
00000030 cd 95 |Í.|
00000032 cd b8 |͸|
00000034 cd a6 |ͦ|
00000036 cd b6 |Ͷ|
00000038 cc b3 |̳|
0000003a ce 8a |Î.|
0000003c cd 90 |Í.|
0000003e cd 8f |Í.|
00000040 cd 8e |Í.|
00000042 ce 8b |Î.|
00000044 ce 82 |Î.|
00000046 ce 87 |Î.|
00000048 ce 86 |Î.|
0000004a cd bf |Í¿|
0000004c ce 84 |Î.|
0000004e cd bd |ͽ|
00000050 ce 81 |Î.|
00000052 cd ba |ͺ|
00000054 cd bf |Í¿|
00000056 cd b8 |͸|
00000058 cd ba |ͺ|
0000005a cd b9 |͹|
0000005c cd b8 |͸|
0000005e cd b1 |ͱ|
00000060 cc b7 |Ì·|
00000062 cc b6 |̶|
00000064 cd b4 |Í´|
00000066 cd 96 |Í.|
00000068 cd b2 |Ͳ|
0000006a cd ab |Í«|
0000006c cd b0 |Í°|
0000006e cd a9 |Í©|
00000070 cd a8 |ͨ|
00000072 ce 8c |Î.|
00000074 cd ac |ͬ|
00000076 cd 8e |Í.|
00000078 cd 8d |Í.|
0000007a ce 83 |Î.|
0000007c cd 9d |Í.|
0000007e cd a2 |Í¢|
00000080 cd 9b |Í.|
00000082 cd ba |ͺ|
00000084 cd 9a |Í.|
00000086 cd 99 |Í.|
00000088 cd 98 |Í.|
0000008a cd b4 |Í´|
0000008c cc b7 |Ì·|
wondering if it could be ARGB with 4 bits for each channel or something
safe monolith
tbh looks plausible, @sterile steeple, what did you do to get a bitmap exactly?
hollow garnet
zoinks
wind crypt
nice fps
sterile steeple
tbh looks plausible, <@663372474645479459>, what did you do to get a bitmap exac...
I basically copied the hex of the title into the image data section of a bitmap
potent cobalt
the constant c is suspicious as heck
The second nibble is always c, d, or e as well.
hollow garnet
safe monolith
checks out, i also had this size (also did gamma frames)
sterile steeple
I basically copied the hex of the title into the image data section of a bitmap
However I don't think we'd actually gain anything from it. The colour doesn't seem to have any meaning(just yet)
hollow garnet
im gonna head out after this video finishes probably
but maybe later ill schizo a bit more if i have time
lessgo
safe monolith
btw i think music notes brute force yielded nothing
tawny pasture
What have we figured out
safe monolith
imma paste my script here for you guys to check
timid swift
What have we figured out
tawny pasture
I was gone to watch the stream
We're finally back
My god
Have we managed to piece that image back together yet?
safe monolith
import itertools
from cryptography.hazmat.primitives.ciphers import Cipher, algorithms, modes
from cryptography.hazmat.primitives import padding
import base64
notes = ['C', 'D', 'E', 'F', 'G', 'A', 'B']
suffixes = ['3', '4', '5']
all_combinations = []
for note in notes:
for suffix in suffixes:
all_combinations.append(note + suffix)
combinations = list(itertools.combinations(all_combinations, 7))
ciphertext = base64.b64decode('L8gnk0GgYm9cCAA5t7wSIcwc669T+2TY/KlK4ATmQsnVrSY3PWrXAwUPcJiN1AugpkVwkDQARQydWkbLvs+4V0I08mSQKRsDinKZchmMlTJY8KCCS4ZDof1BxuCB7Uab6rAitGRYl+KgXqvROEbCWfb80nsDNaqo6wavnAVX5ld3nD6Ykl0vKIUUVNxuE42xDiMYuENg+tFLwsKcUzuw2KNZ+st46FBkZBniKP5jVQrqZzqAzgvcpHR63yMOZPkWMrVBHBwCRS31GRVx5qpzoB+0dkP0vX+YugYKIe9HvkEFJ440PCpMSd3ITK5Zmq/YJfAg5YyNpmRod3b2MVOfhX35lkjg4l+4bidTo4H4d8sTiNz7YD74a5tWuzCj6BXax7ErPueqA7uRCcjaNXnGGrDLaFsEQkpFKWRmWm3hltAF5FiTqfB//7zj10iWCBDt3jJ1uNhrFLG7SX8kpvFyuw==')
for combination in combinations:
key = ''.join(combination) + 'G4'
cipher = Cipher(algorithms.AES(key.encode()), modes.ECB())
decryptor = cipher.decryptor()
#print(f'trying {key}')
plain = decryptor.update(ciphertext) + decryptor.finalize()
try:
print(plain.decode())
except Exception:
pass
i probably made some mistake somewhere
safe monolith
Have we managed to piece that image back together yet?
bred's on this atm, hopefully we get a more observable video
hollow garnet
(though i am going to be heading out soon)
safe burrow
And I root for you with all my paws 
safe monolith
Start from here @tawny pasture #1112082183235047506 message
tawny pasture
I see...
hollow garnet
ok h264 might not have been a good codec choice
uncut cargo
I hate myself for skipping starting soon screen today
hollow garnet
don't worry its been posted here
tawny pasture
Okay, going to spectrogram
digital radish
welp time to write code to bruteforce the AES
hollow garnet
or just look at the frames i guess
digital radish
or i can use hashcat
safe monolith
back to true bruteforce sadge
digital radish
we can also use john
uncut cargo
<:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100> don't worry its been posted here
its in the VOD overall
safe monolith
bred i really think different lines have different offsets
tawny pasture
Messing with the spectrogram to see if there is anything
hollow garnet
though this could 100% be stitched together per-channel
and then another set of offsets
native maple
back to the schizo
wind crypt
The second nibble is always c, d, or e as well.
each 2-byte hex segment matches c[cde][89ab][0123456789abcdef]
thats a fairly tight range
digital radish
how hard can it be to use hashcat
uneven moth
how hard can it be to use hashcat
wsl 
hollow garnet
oh wait i'm silly
digital radish
i mean i do have experience with hashcat
hollow garnet
this has no lines
calm parrot
Hmm
digital radish
but i hate cybersecurity
wind crypt
🤓
sterile steeple
this has no lines
Neurosamacode (:
wind crypt
god i love arg
native maple
surely this time its music theory
wind crypt
oh hi amarok
uneven moth
i have a *useless* degree in cybersecurity
I don't have a degree, I just know too much for a sane person on the subject
wind crypt
surely this time its music theory
they were talking about music notes earlier
safe monolith
surely this time its music theory
probably the closest thing we had, G4 
native maple
time to open the old music theory doc
safe monolith
```python
import itertools
from cryptography.hazmat.primitives.ciphers import Ci...
tried this with 3,4,5,6. I think any effort beyond this means we're not looking hard enough
native maple
also don't forget to open in firefox 
pulsar glen
open in firefox doesn't work anymore 
hollow garnet
i swear 4 works fine
safe monolith
bred that isn't the definition of fine
dapper wraith
i swear 4 works fine
F 
native maple
almost fine
hollow garnet
bu.. buh
wind crypt
what if the title isnt even utf-8 
safe monolith
title is too corrupted to be random
wind crypt
vedal could've used any encoding to get that title from a bunch of bits
i dont want to try them all 
turbid ingot
You guys remember how that one stream that the clock broke it was at like 6:54?
This time the morse code plays at "6:55"
Nevermind, me schizo, the times refer to different things anyway)
🤔
safe monolith
source pleep
wind crypt
native maple
solved the arg it says "happy birthday shiro"
turbid ingot
solved the arg it says "happy birthday shiro"
.>
wind crypt
turbid ingot
I want this disturbed version of Neuro song xD
safe monolith
Messing with the spectrogram to see if there is anything
let us know if you find anything
tawny pasture
Not yet, but will let you know if I do
wind crypt
ok title is a dead end unless we get more hints or info
space of possibilities is too wide
turbid ingot
I'm going to record the stream start, and search in that as well.
wind crypt
not even knowing the encoding is a nail in the coffin
turbid ingot
See if there's any spectogram funniness in that.
safe monolith
I'm going to record the stream start, and search in that as well.
already done i think, lemme find the clips
turbid ingot
oh nice.
safe monolith
See if there's any spectogram funniness in that.
this is not done
timid swift
ok title is a dead end unless we get more hints or info
if we document what we have, someone might recognize it down the road.
safe monolith
#1112082183235047506 message @turbid ingot
wind crypt
if we document what we have, someone might recognize it down the road.
we dont have a whole lot on the title
just that it exists
turbid ingot
btw is the video the morse code leads too the same video that's now no longer "unlisted" on the channel?
Like, we're not being goofed with two versions of the same video?
arctic canyon
CyberChef can brute force text encoding and decoding but none of it looks like anything as it is atm https://gchq.github.io/CyberChef/#recipe=Text_Encoding_Brute_Force('Decode')&input=zZTMt82wzLTOgc2tzLHNvs2MzarNis2JzabNpc2AzobNkc6FzbPOgs6BzL/Nv8y9zYnMu82rzbvMuM2VzbjNps22zLPOis2QzY/Njs2fzovMuc2czoLOh86Gzb/OhM29zYPOgc26zb/NuMy%2BzZ/Nns26zbnNuM2xzLfMts20zZbNss2rzbDNqc2ozozNrM2OzY3Nqc2ozafNoM2fzoPNnc2izZvNms2ZzZ7Nnc2WzbrNms2ZzZjNkc2QzbTMt82TzZI
turbid ingot
Cause it seems to be public now if that wasn't already noted.
wind crypt
yeah cc was first thing i tried to see if its something obvious
but it almost never is
timid swift
just that it exists
you say this right after making a pretty neat observation about the encoding space it occupies :p
hollow garnet
pastel turtle
you guys solved the title, right?
uneven moth
what is that?
safe monolith
bred
the fact that it's doing that
surely means the encoding changes every frame
pastel turtle
i solved it i think, i just didn't want to be cluelessed
safe monolith
timid swift
we haven't solved the title yet
arctic canyon
i solved it i think, i just didn't want to be cluelessed
Tell us 
pastel turtle
ok UTC-8 into hex, hex into UTC-16, since that uses 2 bytes
every character is then in hangul
ignore the last part
safe monolith
arctic canyon
poggers 
timid swift
...
uncut cargo
Cold fish
native maple
isnt that just because of repeating characters ?
umbral tulip
Pog
native maple
we had the same thing with japanese and chinese etc
winged hearth
what could chum chum chum chum mean ???
hollow garnet
google translate might be making stuff up, its done it in the past
pastel turtle
sadge]
arctic canyon
Can't believe it realyl was chinese characters thsi time 
safe monolith
it's schizo
distant rune
ignore the last part <:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100>
What does this mean.
arctic canyon
You reckon it's not 
distant rune
Have we reached the end now?
pastel turtle
yeah, adding spaces changes the translation completely, stand by for something better
arctic canyon
It's cold on repeat is way too on-point for hiyori but maybe it's Schizo
uneven moth
find a korean dinkDonk
dapper wraith
thats just the magic of UTF-16 with machine translation isn't it? like I got this with chinese
unique mason
what the 
timid swift
yeah, adding spaces changes the translation completely, stand by for something b...
ask chatgpt4, it'll likely tell you that it's gibberish
unique mason
hollow garnet
ok im really confused
tawny pasture
SECRET
hollow garnet
this section seems to perfectly overlap with the 4x scale
hollow garnet
these i think?
sour herald
Y'all are putting the images together?
safe monolith
Y'all are putting the images together?
still the scaling thing
hollow garnet
if you put them in photoshop and set it to something like difference
safe monolith
sour herald
guys that's not actually a solution
Sure, whatever you say you darn spy 
wind crypt
it's just machine translation doing it's best with spammed chars like the other person said
digital radish
tbh that doesnt make sense
wind crypt
if you don't believe me feel free to bring in someone who speaks Korean to read the text instead of Google translate
digital radish
the title is some "broken" unicode
safe monolith
@hollow garnet, what if you overlayed both sides together?
wind crypt
wdym broken
hollow garnet
i don't get much of any use
safe monolith
i don't get much of any use
aite
native maple
broken ? its valid ASCII tho
hollow garnet
this is where the two bits overlap
wind crypt
what are you basing that on tho
digital radish
what are you basing that on tho
some of the characters dont exist
as seen by the boxes
hollow garnet
when set to difference i get this
(that black section inbetween means the pixels are the same)
dapper wraith
broken ? its valid ASCII tho
that's definitely not ASCII
timid swift
when set to difference i get this
that's legit scary
wind crypt
that doesn't make it broken Unicode it just means what he encoded wasn't text
safe monolith
(that black section inbetween means the pixels are the same)
ooooh
digital radish
that doesn't make it broken Unicode it just means what he encoded wasn't text
so what could have been encoded?
wind crypt
anything
timid swift
it could even be nonsense
tawny pasture
This still looks peculiar
wind crypt
could be literally him generating a random number and encoding it as a red herring
turbid ingot
was the morse code figured out btw?
note that there are two voices in the song, and two pitches for the morse code.
hollow garnet
i have literally no clue what this video is
arctic canyon
could be literally him generating a random number and encoding it as a red herri...
he wouldn't
digital radish
could be literally him generating a random number and encoding it as a red herri...
we never had a red herring until now
tawny pasture
I'd have no idea what we could even do with that, but it looks peculiar
wind crypt
This still looks peculiar
qr code?
hollow garnet
maybe i should try running a 4-shift on every frame
dapper wraith
was the morse code figured out btw?
note that there are two voices in the song,...
yes, it gave the ID of the video before it was published
tawny pasture
That's what I'm thinking, but I'm not sure how we would go about getting a QR code out of that
safe monolith
This still looks peculiar
this seems really hard to extract data from idk
sweet sparrow
This still looks peculiar
it looks like missingno to me tbh
turbid ingot
yes, it gave the ID of the video before it was published
Oh right, I literally already read that lmao
tawny pasture
What a beautiful sight
wind crypt
That's what I'm thinking, but I'm not sure how we would go about getting a QR co...
are there any other frames like this with different angles
tawny pasture
Let me check
safe monolith
if there are contiguous 8 pixels side by side i can try manually decoding like a character or two if those pixels are in the data segment
but otherwise if it's in the error correction portion then
wind crypt
we only have like 20% of the QR code there
tawny pasture
There's this one at partially corrupted, but it doesn't seem to show anything different
wind crypt
gl
tawny pasture
Moved
pulsar glen
Damn, the channel passed 69420th message and no one noticed
native maple
safe monolith
the placement of that locator square suggests that the QR code is in a funky orientation
potent cobalt
I cannot even really make out any control sequences on the QR code.
arctic canyon
The OwO encoding
safe monolith
or the QR code is actually huge
sterile steeple
Good luck getting the QR code out of there, there's also some bits on the star
timid swift
we'll have to wait for next halloween to get the next part of the huge qr code
wraith goblet
Any chance it's just emulating MacroVision?
sweet sparrow
another strange thing about the starting soon screen for this stream is that it literally just used the original "Want You Gone" from Portal 2 between two Neuro covers
tawny pasture
I never noticed that her irises shrank in this as well, just with how much changed
I doubt that means anything, but it's an interesting detail
safe monolith
her eyes were doing scary things during the intro sequence
tawny pasture
Cursor Neuro also gets corrupted
safe monolith
Cursor Neuro also gets corrupted
does this change as the cursor moves around btw
arctic canyon
man the repeating Cs and CDs and stuff in the binary of the title really is suspicous
tawny pasture
does this change as the cursor moves around btw
It does
safe monolith
oh no
tawny pasture
The corrupted pixels switch around as it moves until it goes back to normal
sterile steeple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiGhioegcHQ <:despair:1088679725075005482>
I suddenly get the urge to power off my computer and never boot it up again
tawny pasture
Cursor Neuro also gets corrupted
For example, this one is corrupted differently
arctic canyon
Maybe if we create three lists of bytes, those prepended by CCs, CDs and CEs, then put them together as new binaries and convert to text 
safe monolith
ok it doesn't look like a QR code but I can't be sure
hollow garnet
guys why do i have 40gb less storage now
arctic canyon
I asked my friend and they said "cdeez nuts lmao"
tawny pasture
Neuro herself also corrupts at around 4:05 in the VOD
safe monolith
<:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100> guys why do i have 40gb less storage now
did you copy the frames 4 times
hollow garnet
surely
cunning osprey
The video is really weird, there are some frames mixed in with the "static" (like frame 2046) that kinda look like they contain part of the image, but they compress back into garbage after a few frames
tawny pasture
Neuro herself also corrupts at around 4:05 in the VOD
4:15, I think it switches to V1 singing, though very fuzzy
wind crypt
title is 71 chars long
utf-8 thats 142 bytes if im not mistaken
anything significant about that number
it doesnt seem like it to me so im more inclined to believe the title is garbage
arctic canyon
utf-8 thats 142 bytes if im not mistaken
I got 194 bytes 
wind crypt
do i have the right title
arctic canyon
I got 194 bytes <:hmmm:657776002906456099>
tawny pasture
There's this one at partially corrupted, but it doesn't seem to show anything di...
Wait a minute, that same pattern is on the edges of the star
potent cobalt
The video is really weird, there are some frames mixed in with the "static" (lik...
More than likely that's just due to how video compression works, but I may be wrong. I'd have to check those specific frames.
safe monolith
Wait a minute, that same pattern is on the edges of the star
extreme amounts of pain
tawny pasture
Better view
hollow garnet
ffs i burnt like 2h doing this
native maple
Got myself another test someone please help me fill the rest 
safe monolith
i think there exists a qr code to be pieced together in that title sequence somehow
but how
arctic canyon
I still believe in the title Shiro
sour herald
194 is also a not interesting number
It's just missing an 8 
arctic canyon
Help me decode the CC and CD and CE thing
uneven moth
You can't choose your video ID so negligible.
wind crypt
just add a fudge factor 
hollow garnet
ok im uploading a 4-shifted version of the video
wind crypt
length is generally going to be a multiple of the cipher block size under modes like CBC so if the title is encrypted data its gonna be a stream cipher of some sort
hollow garnet
i feel like the shift increases every frame tbh
safe monolith
i feel like the shift increases every frame tbh
i agree with this
the video was doing some spinny thing, so i'm inclined to think so
uneven moth
just try shift = frame# and see what it gives perchance?
cosmic grail
I see a letter H
arctic canyon
sounds like a good idea to me
trail holly
Anyone start looking at the stream intro audio? I skimmed the past couple hours of chat but only noticed or realized mention of the youtube audio
safe monolith
@tawny pasture are you also checking spectrogram?
hollow garnet
sterile steeple
Regarding the Spectogram I only managed to find the digital seeming signals as said earlier. Otherwise there's nothing of interest
safe monolith
Anyone start looking at the stream intro audio? I skimmed the past couple hours ...
do you have an idea of what to try looking for?
native maple
zoom up of the last char of the title
wind crypt
Regarding the Spectogram I only managed to find the digital seeming signals as s...
better not be something insane like a dial-up transmission
safe monolith
huh. this suggests that 49s to 51s uses the same offsets?
wind crypt
can you imagine theres dial-up network traffic in the audio signal that we need to turn into pcaps
would lose my mind
safe monolith
which means that offset by frame is unlikely?
hollow garnet
cosmic grail
binary to base64 doesnt give much
Youtube link? SCHIZO
turbid ingot
Not really finding anything in spectogram looking at the start screen for the stream, outside of the obvious morse code, and the fact that everything looks expectedly scuffed from the audio bug-out effects.
hollow garnet
it might just be a really big offset?
sterile steeple
Wow Notepad++ crashed and caused Windows to no longer store screenshots in the Clipboard. What an amazing application
safe monolith
sterile steeple
better not be something insane like a dial-up transmission
Really sounds like it but I doubt that
trail holly
do you have an idea of what to try looking for?
No there's nothing I can be of help with lmao. I'm just a spectator. I just wasn't sure if the stream intro audio was checked or if everyone was hyper focused on the youtube video
wind crypt
Really sounds like it but I doubt that
can you try to isolate the digital sounds if you haven't already? would be nice to hear them without the rest of the audio but im far from an expert on sound processing
turbid ingot
No there's nothing I can be of help with lmao. I'm just a spectator. I just wasn...
Was in the middle of that, and sadly other than the morse code, not finding much.
There's blurbs of audio static I wish I could say were QR codes, but I highly doubt it, and it's probably literally just noise lol.
safe burrow
I'm always here, and if I go to sleep, I wake up and read what I missed 
proud lark
Surely crypted text leads to something meaningful this time
wind crypt
ok my laptop is about to die so i am once again useless outside of ideas and brainstorming 
good luck arg team, make sure you take breaks to get some food and drink once and a while
sterile steeple
can you try to isolate the digital sounds if you haven't already? would be nice ...
Denoising it kinda helped, however I haven't checked whether any important bits were lost in the process
safe monolith
Hiding qr code in audio without scuff will be too big brain
hollow garnet
ok i have something
sterile steeple
Hiding qr code in audio without scuff will be too big brain <:NeuroClueless:1072...
Surely
hollow garnet
the first 18 frames follow an offset of frame* 0.125 - 1.5
(instead of scaling im just making the canvas offset pixels wider)
that screenshot is awful on my dim monitor
turbid ingot
I imagine the arg isn't trying to intrude too much on the streams themselves, so I doubt there's anything beyond the start screen, and additionally, I think we only got something so ARG thematic, because it happens to just also fit the holloween asthetic xD
I think the morse code is about it.... Unless something comes of the "QRCode" patterns on her clothes, and perhaps that star?
tawny pasture
I think it intruded plenty this time
I like it and I didn't see anyone complaining about it.
turbid ingot
I mean into the actual stream itself.
hollow garnet
man i wish bt would install fiber at my home sooner so i could actually upload these massive mp4s at any reasonable speed
safe monolith
I'll have a look at doing a manual decoding of whatever I can see in the QR code someday
wind crypt
Surely
is it the low frequency hotspots you're interested in? I admittedly can't listen to the audio atm
uneven moth
man i wish bt would install fiber at my home sooner so i could actually upload t...
BT? I have too much titanfall on the brain... 
timid swift
man i wish bt would install fiber at my home sooner so i could actually upload t...
you'll get there. Just imagine it's dial up and you're super hacka man
sterile steeple
is it the low frequency hotspots you're interested in? I admittedly can't listen...
Really in the whole audio, the "bars" could indicate something I just don't 100% know what since I'm as clueless as you on the topic
hollow garnet
holy shit i think i have the offset stuff
i now have a version that jumps x amount every 18 frames
uneven moth
how much?
safe monolith
bred sneak peek plz
hollow garnet
one moment its uploading
safe monolith
Imagine the audio needs the same manner of offsetting
safe monolith
Yeah holy shit
timid swift
so the offset needs to be added every few frames as well
hollow garnet
nyoom
gritty thorn
it looks like the image from those knob TV's from the 60's
like how you changed the channels manually with a knob and it did that effect
cunning osprey
Really in the whole audio, the "bars" could indicate *something* I just don't 10...
I'm no audio expert, but the vertically stacked bars probably don't mean anything, I think they're harmonics of the wave used to generate the audio (the FFT used for the spectrogram decomposes it into sine waves)
wind crypt
yeah I still haven't listened to it but nothing jumps out at me from the spectrogram
arctic canyon
Regarding Name, if you look at the binary and sort them by CC, CD and CE, they all have similarities. CC all go B then a number
CEs are all 8s
CDs are the most by far, they do not seem to follow a pattern
hollow garnet
turbid ingot
Something still makes me want to look at the morse code...
I understand the full code is:
4J5ODZRIXUA
which is the watch code for the video.
Just want to note that if you seperate the two pitches that were in it it seperates into:
D R XUA
4J5O Z I
So, high tone: DRXUA
low tone: 4J5OZI
Possible keys for later? who knows.
native maple
4j5oDzRiXUA ?
timid swift
did you look at the doc?
native maple
its the youtube link right ?
turbid ingot
altogether it's the url for the video we're looking at. Yeah.
turbid ingot
did you look at the doc?
I did
arctic canyon
ohh the pitches denoted the capitalisation, that's cool
native maple
timid swift
the pitch is how we get the case, yes
turbid ingot
Ah, well, I mean case doesn't matter for urls, but okie xD
native maple
Something still makes me want to look at the morse code...
I understand the full...
but thats an o in the youtube link not 0 right ?
timid swift
incorrect, youtube video ids are case sensitive
cosmic grail
O0
turbid ingot
but thats an o in the youtube link not 0 right ?
you're right, I just typed it wrong.
fixed
native maple
incorrect, youtube video ids are case sensitive
thats a 0 not a capital O it happens
cosmic grail
O0O
timid swift
no not that
gritty thorn
<:catdespair:1087521982817509426>
Bro, that looks so much like horizontal hold tuning from the old TV's
turbid ingot
incorrect, youtube video ids are case sensitive
huh, they are case sensetive, guess that's the case cause they specifically use that code internally.
hollow garnet
i mean that's essentially what im doing i think?
turbid ingot
Then shruggers guess that goes out the window lol.
wind crypt
Regarding Name, if you look at the binary and sort them by CC, CD and CE, they a...
interesting
idk what kind of data it could be tho
timid swift
huh, they are case sensetive, guess that's the case cause they specifically use ...
ye, everything that's after the domain part can be case sensitive if the service chooses to
wind crypt
I'm worried we have the encoding wrong and it's just a quirk of those characters happening to be close in UTF-8
uneven moth
The video ID can't really have anything to do with ARG other then the video, since it can't be picked at all. What I'm betting happened is the 
was watching us, and when he saw we found the link he published it insted of keeping it unlisted.
wind crypt
ok wait if you convert those numbers to decimals and offset them so the smallest is 0
what does it look like
steep arrow
Looks almost sinusoidal with the rate of change?
hollow garnet
not really later on
turbid ingot
The video ID can't really have anything to do with ARG other then the video, sin...
They can create the video, upload it, get the id, and then use that for things like the description stuff, the title stuff, or future stuff.
timid swift
The video ID can't really have anything to do with ARG other then the video, sin...
it could be recycled and used for another thing as well, but yes
turbid ingot
Or if we get another url to something else, that, etc. etc.
uneven moth
They can create the video, upload it, get the id, and then use that for things l...
Ah, yes, I see. I didn't think of creating something with it after the fact for some reason
wind crypt
this thread has crashed my discord twice
potent cobalt
Me either <:aquasmoke:675815178851450911>
It might very well just be what I'm working on outside of this influencing this, but it almost feels like some sort of directions.
turbid ingot
this thread has crashed my discord twice
Normal discord behavior.
safe monolith
not really later on
maybe a reLu?
hollow garnet
honestly im so annoying lost
safe monolith
You were close though
safe burrow
So fast gif 
timid swift
increment offset ever x frames
dapper wraith
any chance the byte sequence in the title could have something todo with it?
timid swift
same, it's starting to become night n stuff
hollow garnet
it expects a folder called media/more_frames/ with each frame (expecting 5136) all named frame{i}.png and outputs to output/frames/frame_{i}.png
wind crypt
the video seems horrible to work on too but it's nice that you have a visual of your progress lol
arctic canyon
Seperated the title bytes by the prepending CC, CD or CD
CC:
https://gchq.github.io/CyberChef/#recipe=Unescape_string()Unescape_Unicode_Characters('\\u'/disabled)Magic(2,false,false,'')&input=XHhDQ1x4QjdceENDXHhCNFx4Q0NceEIxXHhDQ1x4QkZceENDXHhCRFx4Q0NceEJCXHhDQ1x4QjhceENDXHhCM1x4Q0NceEI5XHhDQ1x4QkVceENDXHhCN1x4Q0NceEI2XHhDQ1x4Qjc
Oh that's only one of the inputs one sec
hollow garnet
your cargo.toml only needs rayon and image
also run it in release mode or else its slow
anyways im gonna go do maths work
wind crypt
gl!
wind crypt
gonna request ultra react feature from discord for the clueless I put on that
hollow garnet
this appeared in the one with the changing offsets btw
but it breaks quickly so i guess the offsets suck
wind crypt
there must be a better way to find these offsets than trial and error
hollow garnet
they can probably be measured?
safe monolith
Ah math?
hollow garnet
i am good enough at math and if not i can ask at school
wind crypt
why don't we xor neighbouring lines and try to minimize the white pixel count
if we can digitize the image into black and white only, that might work
assuming neighbouring lines don't change too much which should be true given high enough res
hollow garnet
wait i just assumed its an 18 offset because i can't see the black frames
gritty thorn
am I schizo or the static pulses are somewhat consistent between 1:17 and 1:25?
hollow garnet
ok small bug
uneven moth
Looks almost sinusoidal with the rate of change?
If there is other consistent points it could point to this being the case actually
sterile steeple
ok small bug
Looks like you may want to download a little more RAM
timid swift
we could go through a few frames and find the correct offset, then see if there's a tendency for a specific set of offsets or offset change
wind crypt
first few frames might be hard to characterize the whole thing from tho
cosmic grail
About 500gb of ram 
safe monolith
Yeah, especially if it's a step after x
wind crypt
I still think programmatically deciding the offset on an individual basis is best
timid swift
probably would be better to sample spread out ye
arctic canyon
ok guys take a look at this, I removed the prepending characters. The magic results from CCs and CEs are much lower than CDs what could it mean
wind crypt
lower entropy just means the data appears more structured but we knew that already
CC and CE have a fixed char after them so naturally the entropy is lower
arctic canyon
I should remove the Bs and 8s as well see what we get
CC: 741FDB839E767
CE: 16521AB27641C3
CE is 14 characters long 
arctic canyon
Bet you've said that at the start of every month 
azure oyster
nope
wind crypt
the domain...
safe monolith
timid swift
2023 seems like a really good year for the next clue
azure oyster
The Domain of The Clown.
hollow garnet
ok this is my last attempt of the formula for now
wind crypt
https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1112082183235047506/114279809861...
the b word 
arctic canyon
I called it way before you guys did #general-network message
hollow garnet
it looks like this
wind crypt
if you really want to get mathematical about the offsets you'll have to do a bunch manually
gritty thorn
if this is basically CRT tuning, does the code account for Vertical Hold too?
safe monolith
it looks like this
So incredibly close
hollow garnet
at the start
wind crypt
then you can find rates of change
arctic canyon
It does feel like CRT tuning a lot, we should get that telewaifus guy in here, he'd know what to do
steep arrow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raster_scan
Might be worth a read? Not sure if related but it does seem to resemble some kind of horizontal hold? Could be interlaced scanning?
hollow garnet
wait now im confused
gritty thorn
in CRT there's Horizontal and Vertical hold tuning
hollow garnet
what am i doing how does this affect the output
uneven moth
It does feel like CRT tuning a lot, we should get that telewaifus guy in here, h...
I have a discord with some CRT people chilling in it should i ask 'em?
hollow garnet
im so confused wait
ive been schizoing for so long i forgot what the original video was
i mean im confident im on the right track but
gritty thorn
it's indeed doing something
timid swift
ive been schizoing for so long i forgot what the original video was
as an exercise in grounding yourself, you could explain what you did to get what you got :p
hollow garnet
i guessed that the lines needed offsetting and ran with it
safe monolith
I can explain up till the point he started offsetting by frame
gritty thorn
~~inb4 CCV from today's stream was lower because everyone started doing the ARG instead of watching the stream ~~
safe monolith
basically take all pixels, put it into an array, and resize shape of the matrix
the idea is similar to softwarping of text in an editor but for pixels
effectively here we're changing the soft warp column limit
timid swift
I have a discord with some CRT people chilling in it should i ask 'em?
You could also ask them if the video reminds them of anything CRT related
uneven moth
reply to the video and I'll send em it
gritty thorn
more info
hollow garnet
ok im leaving you guys with a question i don't know the answer to
is this wrapping happening around the whole video (16:9) or just the inner bit of the video (almost 1:1)
safe monolith
Good qns, the entire time I've been working with the inner bit
wind crypt
try both, it only doubles the work
safe monolith
From your code you're also doing the same it looks like
wind crypt
that's a better rate than most of our problems
gritty thorn
oh yeah, and the aspect ration is 4:3, just like a CRT, holy shit
hollow garnet
mine does the whole thing but change this to this and it only does the centre
pastel turtle
from the title team: i don't like how this looks
safe monolith
mm
wind crypt
from the title team: i don't like how this looks
axis labels?
uneven moth
reply to the video and I'll send em it
I could just pick a random one that was sent but idk which one you think I should send
pastel turtle
axis labels?
x-2 byte segment number, y-value
timid swift
I could just pick a random one that was sent but idk which one you think I shoul...
perhaps the original? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j5oDzRiXUA
uneven moth
perhaps the original? <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j5oDzRiXUA>
mkey
hollow garnet
ok i figured out why my random offsets were doing something
i'm just offseting back to zero
safe monolith
how
hollow garnet
stupidity i think
uneven moth
the magic of modulo %
hollow garnet
and a lot of integer division
ok im going to sleep before i confuse myself and this thread more
but i think i invented a problem by accident and then tried to solve it oops
timid swift
that's problem solving. Gotta stumble around a bit or the solution is no fun when you get there
at least this time you didn't solve it in like an hour :p
hollow garnet
I still think the idea is correct I just think the offset guessing needs to change somehow
uneven moth
that's problem solving. Gotta stumble around a bit or the solution is no fun whe...
Yeah if by the end of it you don't think your stupid for missing the solution then did you really problem solve?
hollow garnet
maybe I should try rotating the array instead of putting it in a wider one
anyways I'm gonna sleep now
native maple
i put the title characters breakdown on the docs for those that want it
timid swift
I still think the idea is correct I just think the offset guessing needs to chan...
ye. I think we'll either need to find a program that understands what to do, or we need to do a few spread out frames manually. and see if we can tell if there's a tendency
timid swift
anyways I'm gonna sleep now
nini!
timid swift
i put the title characters breakdown on the docs for those that want it
the appearance of unnamed unicode characters makes me wonder
gritty thorn
the mood glow from the video seems to have some sort of a constant pulse. Kinda difficult to show on recorded video, but you can see it if you enable mood glow
timid swift
or it's an indicator that it really can be reencoded as something that makes more sense
pastel turtle
every other character for the title have suspicious correlations
subtraction by the remaining characters don't do much
calm parrot
Hmm
calm parrot
the mood glow from the video seems to have some sort of a constant pulse. Kinda ...
I mean, that’s just because the mood glow of every video is just based on an average of the colors of what’s currently on the screen. It just so happens that that changes constantly in the video. You can’t specifically set it to do that manually or anything
gritty thorn
yeah, I just found it intriguing how it was pulsating somewhat consistently and wanted to share maybe some cause to that effect
~~but turning on mood glow also does that "filling" effect, so it might be really nothing 
~~
nova owl
guys, mabue that video has tv fetch fail? (wtf im just say xd)
untold jetty
Wow, that's a lot of schizo that I'm not too keen on reading all of. So um, have fun...
The first things that come to mind (might have been talked about idk just skimmed some conversation) QR codes in everything, and saturating everything to bring out any possible hidden colors, because you could have some something be super dark but still a color
G4
uneven moth
methinks iz troll 
dapper wraith
troll or not. g4 referring to chess is something I haven't read in this thread so far
uneven moth
yeah
pastel turtle
title work: separating symbols by its preceding c[cde] value also yields some interesting structure
dapper wraith
we solved the morse code. that counts for something, right?
vapid token
I just want to mention what interesting songs were chosen during the start screen, good choice Vedal
pastel turtle
this is haunting me
tawny pasture
The clue is clearly to start a game of Chess against Neuro with G4
placid rock
how'd you get 16 million? should be (8*8)^7, which is a 42 bit number
16 million would be trivial to bruteforce
we're missing 14 characters, not 7
there's nothing wrong with the idea, but it would take pretty long
pastel turtle
D:
vapid token
1984
uncut cargo
I just want to mention what interesting songs were chosen during the start scree...
He knew exactly how to do a good spook
Along with the arg
pastel turtle
erm, offsetting CCxx by -64 and CExx by +64 feels closer...
inland spindle
did anyone try to call the number after release of new video?
dapper wraith
yeah, nothing changed
inland spindle
okay you could write that in docs i guess
digital radish
digital radish
wind crypt
anyone know where bred got the pixel data they were using
safe monolith
btw can i just verify that the songs sang during the intro sequence were non-standard lyrics
safe monolith
anyone know where bred got the pixel data they were using
wind crypt
no I mean
they were working off a video right
trying to find a pattern in the per-frame offset
dapper wraith
I think he just read each frame as an image
safe monolith
Yep
safe monolith
https://mystb.in/PatriciaChemDdr
His code for reference
I have a py version that is far inferior and only does one frame if ya need that reference
pastel turtle
unrelated, G5 is the first note in the melody of "Your Reality"
digital radish
hmm
i reversed searched
uh
this
and came across something interesting
"Databending Odia"
databending odia also the process of making these kinds of videos
safe monolith
unrelated, G5 is the first note in the melody of "Your Reality"
there was a theory that used the "Your Reality" room once
digital radish
convert the video to sound 
safe monolith
https://github.com/ImageMagick/ImageMagick/discussions/2076
Oh interesting, great find
calm parrot
Erm
safe monolith
What about sound to video?
digital radish
yes
calm parrot
I’m really happy we got more content finally today
It feels great to actually be working on something again
-nvm the fact that I’m not actually working on anything yet because i fell asleep right after today’s stream-
But NOW
whole sorrel
Even #1095941852068331560 is going schizo
#1169066020523217066 message
pastel turtle
if that is the case, then are the partially scrambled images just a red herring? or markers?
dapper wraith
"Databending Odia"
btw I think this is just a typo this one wikipedia guy made. he's talking about "Databending Audio"
safe monolith
if that is the case, then are the partially scrambled images just a red herring?...
No clue, this needs thinking. I can try to manually decode whatever I can see, but honestly we'll get maximum 1 or 2 characters
digital radish
huh
we can recreate this
and if we can recreate, we can reverse it
wow
i just shared this
im so dumb
safe monolith
Its fine, it is like 30 mins past midnight
digital radish
i reversed searched that image to see what it was called
most common i saw were "Glitched" and "Distress"
pastel turtle
this single frame was in between some databent segments, i can't help but think the scrambled image is still related somehow (there are several like this)
digital radish
okay one thing i figured out
the "waveform" of the video changes each second
so like the little waves you see change each second
vapid token
this single frame was in between some databent segments, i can't help but think ...
There are quite a few frames like this, the difference is the visibility of the original picture, somewhere better - somewhere worse.
digital radish
its very clear something is wrong
digital radish
hmmm
is it possible to sort the video waves with the audio?
like those sorting videos you see
pastel turtle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPRA0W1kECg&ab_channel=TimoBingmann
that looks like #1112082183235047506 message :SCHIZO:
vapid token
I've thought about it, but I haven't figured out how to do it
digital radish
man i really wanna solve this without vedal having to post another video for a clue
pastel turtle
are there as many audio samples as video frames?
digital radish
?
vapid token
I've thought about it, but I haven't figured out how to do it
I think it's possible, given the way the video looks, but not completely sure
digital radish
audio frames?
vapid token
~~are there as many audio samples as video frames?~~ <:NeuroClueless:1072901352...
The entire video is made of these frames, which feel like they are getting farther away and closer.
I still think it's the same picture we see sometimes, just differently "encrypted", but I also think that what's in these frames can be sorted somehow
vapid token
Yeah, another interesting fact is that everything is dark in the beginning and gets lighter as you go on (it also can be just intro)
vapid token
either im going schizo or i see letters
I see only H or N, but idk
Now i see He(a)lp, but i think i'm just SCHIZO
pastel turtle
the image fades in, and audio fades out
if the audio is indeed converted into video somehow, maybe it's in reverse?
the fade in takes about 5 seconds and the fade out takes 10, so maybe not
vapid token
It's sound very similar
It's like the basic melody is still there, it just sounds a little different
digital radish
actually
if i dont reverse the sound
it will uh
match?
yeah it matches the fadeout at the end
vapid token
🤔
pastel turtle
oh yeah, everyone note that the audio is stereo, the two channels are a bit different
timber whale
the sounds in the video remind me of portal 2
it had some songs that had the same vibe
gentle locust
step in ... hey people how are your brains doing
wind crypt
hey aina
ive been trying to get this video split into frames
but the decoding library im using just spits out 33 empty frames and says the rest of the video is empty 
zenith pike
the key is "Coldfish"
tawny pasture
I’m watching because my expertise at this stage are quite limited
dapper wraith
but the decoding library im using just spits out 33 empty frames and says the re...
can't you use the output from ffmpeg?
(that's what bred also used (I think))
dapper wraith
weird. ffmpeg should definitely extract all the frames. what if you generate the frames with ffmpeg, write them into images and load those instead?
digital radish
open up the mp4
for each frame (idk)
tada
i did this ince
once
cant rememeber how and probably wont remember
programming left a scar on me somehow
wind crypt
one does not simply open an mp4
vapid token
You need frames from vid?
dapper wraith
I just did ffmpeg -i .\scrambled.webm "$frame%03.bmp" which gives 2566 frames matching the 14.9GB that vanor and bred got as well
wraith goblet
Has anyone tried mire traditional video correction tools? I've cleaned frane blending and ghosting in dome pretty funky Variable Frame Progressive DVDs. .
wind crypt
i was grabbing audio frames
gentle locust
but the decoding library im using just spits out 33 empty frames and says the re...
oof
wind crypt
screw this core in particular
gentle locust
probably because its trying to use the core closest to your memory usage
wind crypt
I just did `ffmpeg -i .\scrambled.webm "$frame%03.bmp"` which gives 2566 frames ...
what quality?
resolution*
dapper wraith
1080p
gentle locust
Good luck people ^^ I'll be sleeping on this exciting stuff
round marlin
did someone decrypted the Morse code for today?
dapper wraith
nothing to decrypt, it's a youtube video id (check pins for the video)
round marlin
nothing to decrypt, it's a youtube video id (check pins for the video)
you are telling me the tutel put some morse code to be nothing
dapper wraith
a youtube video id isn't really nothing
vast quartz
Guys, do you remember neuro sacrificing her queen for nothing in chess? (I don't have the clip, sorry)
I wanna check whether the pause between her turn start and moment when she moved a piece is longer than normal
Also may look for some other strange 
moves
pastel turtle
round marlin
a youtube video id isn't really nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdYBtNOHKA8&ab_channel=ChrisGamingNL333
when hiyori was on the intro today you can heard a morse code
wind crypt
finally gotten far enough to see the offset pattern bred was on about
now i can actually work on the problem
dapper wraith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdYBtNOHKA8&ab_channel=ChrisGamingNL333
when hiy...
yes, and it gives you a youtube video id (with said video being linked in the pins)
round marlin
yes, and it gives you a youtube video id (with said video being linked in the pi...
LMAO Sorry 3Head
wind crypt
testing my frame offset algorithm now
glossy sphinx
wind crypt
i think it needs some tweaking 
i figured id start by taking the amount of differing pixels between each pair of lines, squaring it and summing over that to get a squared error for each frame
then minimize that
glossy sphinx
wind crypt
under the assumption that a correct picture shouldnt have as many sudden colour changes
this doesnt seem to be giving me the intended result tho
...wait no
im maximizing the error not minimizing it
please hold 
pastel turtle
glossy sphinx
wind crypt
yeah i dont think squared error is quite right
squared error is usually wonderful because it tries to spread the error out as much as possible
so no one item has all the error
but it turns out this property is very important in images
take poor frame 558 for example
the image on the right technically minimizes the per-line squared error but is definitely not what i want
pastel turtle
is there any correlation between the audio and video at every point in time?
trail holly
Now i see He(a)lp, but i think i'm just SCHIZO
mhm definitely schizo. but I could see it as neuro, hi neuro, hi help, no neuro, or no help. just as easily though I can see a skull on the left side of the brighter image you posted and an eye on the right
harsh vessel
Oh boy we are so back
wind crypt
so maybe the metric to optimize is how much of the screen is vertical segments of the same colour
wind crypt
take poor frame 558 for example
again back to this bad example
the left side has a lot of long vertical stretches of pixels which have the same colour
whereas the right side does not
yeah, i think the plan is to minimize the colour changes per column
dapper wraith
btw I looked at the "databending" thing dark linked earlier but they pretty much only take the (raw) image data and interpret them as raw audio streams. I tried that on a few frames but that only resulted horrible noise
pastel turtle
the waveforms for the two audio channels are just barely offset from each other, aligning and subtracting from eachother makes it a lot quieter, but nothing out of the ordinary came out
trail holly
mhm definitely schizo. but I could see it as neuro, hi neuro, hi help, no neuro,...
Like this
pastel turtle
title: plotting hex value plus character order as function of character order, performing this transformation to any other set of numbers gives out garbage
wind crypt
was slightly better but still off the mark
not the characteristic im looking for
gonna try sum of per column maximums of contiguous same-colour segment
one sec
its still not what i want but theres a pattern emerging
glossy sphinx
exciting!
digital sluice
can these splice together? really cool finding
river mantle
advancement!!!
young quest
CLUE
wind crypt
its better but not what im looking for still
starting to think that either most of this is actual static or there's other major image transformations at play as well
pastel turtle
someone should brute force one of the frames
wind crypt
cant brute force something without a way to verify the result
without even knowing what we're looking for or how to evaluate it without looking through millions of images by hand, we cant brute force anything here
uneven moth
someone should brute force one of the frames <:neuroTomfoolery:11552845086402969...
better yet, brute force the secret arg website. I saw it once and it was at localhost:80 so it should be pretty easy
pastel turtle
are we not sure every frame is a distorted version of the same image?
at 1:08, the distortion is changing in some continuous way such that the image is recognizable for a single frame
wind crypt
are we not sure every frame is a distorted version of the same image?
its impossible to tell while the static looks like static, thats the point of trying to realign it
safe burrow
pastel turtle
are we not sure every frame is a distorted version of the same image?
the reason why i think there's reason to believe this is the fact that anytime a frame looks like anything, it looks like hiyori
wind crypt
sounds like a great place to hide something then
pastel turtle
and 1:08 suggests the transition to static isn't instantaneous; thus a successful unscrambling of some of these many "hiyori" frames (some of them adjacent to each other) might help us unscramble the rest
wind crypt
today i learned java has an =+ operator which makes it very easy to mistype += and get the wrong result with no error
wind crypt
at 1:08, the distortion is changing in some continuous way such that the image i...
anyway this inspired me to go on a side quest
im layering every image on top of each other and then applying a threshold
the results are not promising if not horrifying
tweaking the threshold has not helped
this was pretty much my only idea to tell if hiyori was "there" in every frame, assuming she would spend more time on average in the center due to the few mostly-correct frames sprinkled in
so the theory if it being hiyori in every frame remains unproven
think its time to rest my poor head, bred can take over for me when they wake
wind crypt
tweaking the threshold has not helped
(not a clue but i thought this one kinda looked like a sunset over a little lagoon so i tried to colour it in)
ok gn
manic dagger
Gn shir
pastel turtle
i'm just staring at the hex from the title now
surely it was all a red herring, gn 
wraith goblet
I may try using some of my video restore stuff on this just to see if anything popped out
prime chasm
the results are not promising if not horrifying
are you sure it isn't 
?
hollow garnet
I'm confused, because wav2png seems to output colours, so I don't know why this has no colours
ok I'm gonna be honest I kinda want to try and recreate this effect on a normal image before trying to understand it - might try and do it later today
wraith goblet
hm. all i got is the left and right audio channels are definebntly differnt
have you guy tried convering the seperate channels?
daring acorn
schizos back?
safe monolith
reeee stop saying arg has fallen, we also need sleep reeee
i'm gonna try to do rotate left / rotate right per line rather than soft wrap, if that hasn't been tried yet
distant girder
Wow even a clue couldn’t make the schioz come back<:catdespair:10875219828175094...
i think they learned their lessons from the last time and take a more healthy route to solve it (i hope) 
young quest
i think they learned their lessons from the last time and take a more healthy ro...
Yea true
young quest
reeee stop saying arg has fallen, we also need sleep reeee
S-sorry
digital radish
Maybe we have to use the sound as a sorting algorithm and use it on the video? dont know if thats possible
trying to figure out the magic numbers to "fix" the video doesnt seem to be going well
safe monolith
This would mean we need to interpet the sound as data somehow right?
digital radish
yep
safe monolith
Then the datapoints need to have some relation with one another for it to be a sorting algorithm
Idk anything that can do this, any ideas?
digital radish
yeah its probably not that
i would focus on "decyphering" the title as it may contain something for us
the unicode seems to be shifted to a higher/lower number, or it may not even be text
or its just nonsense
but surely vedal wouldnt do that
or whoever is doing this
safe monolith
manual partial restoration of 4x (same as bred's i think)
can't find the mouth
looks like big row 2 and big row 4 needs a right rotate, but i dunno how one would figure that out for all frames
could also just be an offset thing
digital radish
theres no mouth
safe monolith
idk i think this is the mouth, but i don't have evidence
digital radish
she looks like saber from fate
calm parrot
I’m playing 6 of this video at once to see if the secrets of the universe get revealed to me
distant rune
Someone mentioned that Vedal can be heard singing at the end of the intro last night.
safe monolith
the fact that these frames are side by side makes me feel like corrupted hiyori is telling us some sort of code. maybe very white = 1, grey = 0?
very likely schizo (edit: it's schizo, I believe hiyori is in every frame; stealthy edit, surely no one will notice: i think the edit is schizo; stealthy edit 2: ok it turns out that the original schizo was correct)
could also be some correspondance, those hiyori visible frames correspond to audio we want to keep
safe monolith
I'm confused, because wav2png seems to output colours, so I don't know why this ...
decided to just toss the entire wav file (and reversed) into https://directmusic.me/wav2png/ because
more or less this is what that looks like for left, right, and the reversed versions
safe burrow
arctic canyon
today i learned java has an =+ operator which makes it very easy to mistype += a...
Classic Java, 10000 legacy features no one uses but cant be removed
wind crypt
but they would sooner die than add operator overloads
native maple
been years i used java didn't know about =+
ooooh 
its the same thing as writing = +
space or no space it just accept it the same
its not really an operator its just math
x=+4 / x = +4 you have x thats assigned to +4
summer lantern
yeah
placid rock
its not really an operator its just math
reminds me of this classic https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1642028/what-is-the-operator-in-c-c
native maple
our progress is slower than before
its literally been a day we've been stuck for month before thats not slower
native maple
reminds me of this classic https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1642028/what-is-t...
thats a funny one
sterile steeple
<=> 
wild nimbus
I know this may sound schizo
But i think ̷͔Ͱ̴̱ͭ;͌ͪ͊Ά͑΅ͳ̿Ϳ͉̻̽ͻ̸͕ͦͶ̳Ί͐͏͎·ΆͿ΄ͽ̓ͺͿ̾͟͞ͺͱ̷̶ʹ͖ͲͫͰͩͨΌ͎͍ͬ͛͢͝ͺ͚͙͘ʹ̷ mean something idk
native maple
maybe
wind crypt
we've been trying that lead
native maple
you can check the doc for the characters breakdown
wind crypt
if it's UTF8 then there is a definite pattern to the byte values, they don't seem random at all
but nobody has found a valid interpretation of them
uncut cargo
wild nimbus
All i know is Ͱ̴ is historical greek’s H after some research
digital radish
hmm
so if we take the unicode and look up the similar letters
okay lets look at patters
\u0354\u0337\u0370\u0334\u0381\u036d\u0331\u037e\u034c\u036a\u034a\u0349\u0366\u0365\u0340\u0386\u0351\u0385\u0373\u0382\u0381\u033f\u037f\u033d\u0349\u033b\u036b\u037b\u0338\u0355\u0378\u0366\u0376\u0333\u038a\u0350\u034f\u034e\u035f\u038b\u0339\u035c\u0382\u0387\u0386\u037f\u0384\u037d\u0343\u0381\u037a\u037f\u0378\u033e\u035f\u035e\u037a\u0379\u0378\u0371\u0337\u0336\u0374\u0356\u0372\u036b\u0370\u0369\u0368\u038c\u036c\u034e\u034d\u0369\u0368\u0367\u0360\u035f\u0383\u035d\u0362\u035b\u035a\u0359\u035e\u035d\u0356\u037a\u035a\u0359\u0358\u0351\u0350\u0374\u0337\u0353\u0352
tulip minnow
when playing it backwards
wild nimbus
But it can be pronounces like I so idk
digital radish
every unicode begins with "3"
tulip minnow
there's buzzing in the left side
digital radish
if we take the unicode and remove the \u
03540337037003340381036d0331037e034c036a034a0349036603650340038603510385037303820381033f037f033d0349033b036b037b033803550378036603760333038a0350034f034e035f038b0339035c038203870386037f0384037d03430381037a037f0378033e035f035e037a03790378037103370336037403560372036b037003690368038c036c034e034d0369036803670360035f0383035d0362035b035a0359035e035d0356037a035a03590358035103500374033703530352
cunning osprey
I checked yesterday, the codepoints are spread over two Unicode blocks, don't remember which ones but it didn't seem like they had any particular meaning
native maple
any number around 300 that pop out ? so we can try shifting by it
digital radish
any number around 300 that pop out ? so we can try shifting by it
explain?
digital radish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_4_compression
silly me this is just file compression
hollow garnet
@safe monolith did you try rotating the lines yet?
fresh shore
oh god I forgot after "I think I saw a ghost" going a knocking at door sequence
safe monolith
<@163238643316555777> did you try rotating the lines yet?
not with a script no
safe monolith
I rotated manually because I hate myself