#Neuro ARG
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Even if we knew for certain we were in a simulation what would we do with that knowledge?
speedrun
Everything would still feel real to us
Maybe more people would try to find glitches ig
But it’s hard to tell what’s a bug and what’s a feature when it’s all we know
"its a feature"
I wonder if real life has an ARG that tells us the secrets of the universe, well I guess that’s just theoretical physics
lmao imagine this Discord trying to make breakthroughs in theoretical physics
we solve the meaning of life before we solve the arg
True
Maybe we can solve the theory of everything and then by doing so know all the answers to the ARG

studying more years to become something beyond an engineer to solve a riddle about being an engineer, very fitting

funny moment
scratch neuro deleted all of the trolling
i'm dying
surely a hint
what're we goin schizo over today
clues in dev stream maybe?
More liekly yeah.
No idea if this was already done but I have send a message save me to soundcloud profile surely no responds back 
Did anyone ever try sending an audio file of them saying "save me" or Neuro?
wasn't able to dm the account
nevermind????
now we just need to send 572943 dms
@hollow garnet, what exactly did you send?
save me...
Nice dramatic dots.
well i mean thats what we've been sending to the phone number
Inb4 that disqualifies that message kek.
ill go write this in the docs
Remind me, what happened before? They only allowed DMs from those they follow, and they did not follow anyone, correct?
bred, go on vacation NOW.
lmao
thats good
i think there's a screenshot in the docs
stay on vacation until the arg is solved
god the internet here is painfully slow
But you said yours went through?
this is what happened when i tired just now
Was this before or?
that was at some point in the past
idr when, but probably when the profile was discovered
^^
So did the user (Vedal) made it so DMs are allowed recently?
we instantly tried dming them
i guess so
What.
(its a joke)

no way
maybe i need to link it some bangers by vedal
2 more hours until dev stream.
Has anyone tried image searching the turtle Vedal uses as his PFP.
Maybe that's a clue.

not that goober
god i love discord and how it ovverides rightclick on links
you know you do
friendly reminder to subtract another hour for summer time in the timeline to get UTC times (: -- just updated it
sorry im bri'ish
i love the bangers on soundcloud so much https://soundcloud.com/nyancrimew/nyancrimew-camp-boneyard
used to being the center of the world, eh? :p
no im used to software has helpful timestamp entry instead of entering them by hand
wtf is that song lmao
a banger by the person that leaked the no fly list
So i guess now we wait for a reply?
ig
vedal is online though
ew wtf turning on hdr just removed all my monitor's colour
i wish
so speaking of listening to noise on soundcloud. https://soundcloud.com/matoto/mspaintexes-binary-imported-into-audacity-and-interpreated-as-raw-audio-data
either because you're used to oversaturated SDR or because your monitor is bad at displaying HDR (or both)
i don't hate it
apart from the high pitched parts
there's a cleaned up version somewhere
anyway, guess we're sending the whole to-send list from the phone number doc to the soundcloud account?
Probably a different email address, would we funky to let you sign up with the same twice
or just vedal+1@vedal.xyz
leaked 
poll time
will we get a new clue on today's stream?
yes
no
a clue in dev stream? Ya'll gotta be schizo
wait actually
we weren't allowed to dm it
imagine if we actually needed to dm something and vedal thinking why tf they can't progress if all they need to do is dm soundcloud acc after he forgor to allow it
surely couldn't happend
eh, he'd retcon over it if that happened. No reason to ever let us know
true true
Dear diary: I have lost count of time while waiting for a new clue 
Dear diary: I don't want to be an engineer
Dear diary: Are you a clue? Diary tell me now are you a clue?????
bred is a clue, clearly
Clues?! 
bread is certainly a clue
DID SOMEONE SAY CLUE??
no, no, false alarm
i mean, the soundcloud did start accepting DMs. so maybe a little clu
same ol' doggo QR
It's a dev stream, maybe we do get some kind of clue out of it...
Hopefully
starts to cook some more now that he doesn't have more vacations ahead
Today's dev stream is just to announce third vacation 
Surely number of vacations = number of clues we get after copium

"you decide what we want to talk about" the first thing that came to mind was "what about the arg?" 
maybe he forgot about that one too 
nothing today either 

no evil streams does that mean no clues? 

Has Vedal ever mentioned fhe Hiyori emotes?
surely he alt+tabs "accidentally" into the arg folder 

the numbers 
Literally thought the same.
Even though she tries, she's not like the other AI streamers
she said something about filling void 
not an ARG clue 

we're gonna get a series of chess puzzles, the final position of the final moved piece each forms one pixel of a QR code
lets go en passant checkmate
surely we get clue in cave stream 
so what happening while I was sleeping
did you somehow manage to miss vedal's ultra rare 7 hour dev stream
in terms of ARG, 0️⃣
yea I accidentally fall asleep while waiting

Is it just me or the themed streams are related to the ARG? Or am I just schizo? Like, iirc, the first one is a beach stream then underwater then Space Station (not sure if its canon or just to connect to Miyu stream) then next is cave.

It really does feel like it, doesn't it? The quote we got from Evil was also a themed stream, I believe. However, it is quite difficult to draw conclusions just from the streams, unless explicitly pointed to by a more stable source.
All the materials we have on hand come from things that are unlikely to happen due to chance. For instance, a QR code guarantees information transfer, lyrics interpretation suggests transformation of numbers to keys, etc.
But then, is the evil quote a pre-planted quote? Or is it just to suggest that Evil is related to the ARG?
If I remember right, the evil quote was during a stream where both neuros were in a public space (in setting). Could it be entirely possible that the SoundCloud quote is from neither of them, but from a third-party observing them?
schizo^4:
_neurosama channel is an "ALT channel", owned by Hiyori. Hiyori is on a hiatus to find her sister (Study Girl). Study Girl does not want to be found. Study Girl posted "Study" on a private social media somewhere, maybe as public music on SoundCloud [note: SoundCloud does not mention anywhere that neurosama owns it] before she took it down. Hiyori discovers this, and republishes it to _neurosama, as if to say "So you were actually hiding there (referring to the knocked door), I found you :)".
Hiyori knows Study girl is smart enough, and shares a encryption scheme they both know, and of course, "572943". This is Numbers 1. Study girl panics, privatises all Soundcloud music, and changed her SC details with an encryption scheme completely different from the one shared with her sister. This is her call for help.
Numbers 2 is also published by Hiyori for Study Girl. She has found Study Girl's last hiding spot, and also the diary entry before Study Girl vacated that area. "I miss her" at the end suggests that Study Girl has been missing for a long time. Also, it's possible that Study Girl cloned herself at that point to try tricking Hiyori, but was KIA
PSV: Japanese voice is Hiyori via a radio. Hiyori knows for sure Study Girl is listening, as she approaches her current hiding spot. Study Girl knows she is in danger, and hides. She narrowly escapes, but corruption towards the end suggests she didn't get away in time.
As both supernatural humans, they also know how to "kill" one another without actually biologically ending one another. Maybe a EMF device or something.
Alt PSV: Japanese Voice is Study Girl via a radio. Study Girl pleads one last time to try and convince Hiyori to go back to being human instead of running away in time. The rest is the same
in a nustshell clue pls 

I like the idea that Hiyori's related, I remember thinking near the start of the ARG that it might've been created as a sort of response anticipating people who might miss Hiyori after the V2 model debut (same as a lot of people's response to testing the V2 voice). Before we knew about the sister I think the most obvious interpretation for "I miss her" was "I miss [V1 Neuro / Hiyori]" especially with everyone joking about how Vedal disposed of the V1 body
God I'm starting to repeat numbers and study in my head
add on another 6 yeah…
I don't want to be an engineer...
add on another 3 years...
desperately want a full version of "i think i saw a ghost"
state of ARG
gears were turning in my brain last night wondering if we missed something with the numbers algorithm, trying to whip up a few things
HOLY SCHIZO
but I love that idea
only that I understand everything, but not really the conclusion

So hiyori wants to kill her sister?
yandere style
well if you've seen vedals code you'd know why 
someone should get the radio to play th enumbers saga lol
uk..? its a +44 i think
Ah so nothing specific.
+44 [your phone number] means you have a uk number
what would +69 be?
I was thinking someone should get the Numbers songs to play at the area the number is registered in.
wait what is this phone number? i forgor
yey, om a genius

I'll be very impressed if that actually achieves results
Well, we could try to sound analysis and light analysis vedal to get his rough location - then play them on the closest radio therre?
vedal hired someone to just sit in that area waiting
Desperate times calls for desperate measures.
Or just ask him what his favourite radio station is.
Uhm... That's just doxxinf Vedal.
Let's do it.
Jk.
its a joke
just do this
Truckers FM obviously 
is that a real radio?
tbh i just thought - vedal COULD live so close to me lol and i would never know
It has FM, so surely it must.
lemme search it up
truckers fm
https://truckers.fm/ NO WAY
NOWAYING
clue
maybe
First box https://truckers.fm/listen
most viable option
is anyone here with me?
well he could have requested a song with clue in it then listened to it during a stream but idk what else it could be that your thinkin
hmmm
or vedal laughs at us for being more schizo as
As always.
idk if trucker fm is the route seems too
I would be surprised if you can get them to play a random song off of youtube (I'm not even sure that would be legal on their part)
it's not copyrighted, right 
when do yall think we would be able to get vedal to put on truckers
He's very secretive about his appearance so unlikely.
cause if this (todays) stream, we got this guy to talk to
I don't think any of Vedal's sugar mommies (excluding Neuro, probably) has seen Vedal's face
very unlikely he'll play truckers fm during a normal stream. usually he only puts it on during streams where he plays the game (and sometimes dev streams)
ok, whats a ??? stream then
https://tunein.com/radio/Truckers-FM-s264182/ btw if any of you wanna listen
we do have the cave stream coming up and that's a unique enough of a stream to surely have some clues in it 
whats a cave stream
idfk
cabbage said everyone wanted it
for ages
but hes also 
only person in the know rn is vedal
yall give me a numbers joke (very vague connection) i wanna see what this request thing is like
it's a themed stream. so it will be like neuro on the beach/underwater but in a cave
hmm
cause theyre taking shoutouts
well he did get a shoutout during his euro trucker stream
and jokes, and traffic, and other
and got confused cause he didn't know the radio was live at that point
haha
i just need to check this out, but i dunno what to send. should i shoutout vedal?
the problem is even if it is what we need to do how would vedal know he can't be listenin to truckers fm all the time so idk if this is the route
i literally just need to see how easy it is to send. it doesnt matter if hes listening or not
but idk what to send
cause im really socially awkward
just do the basic vedal shoutout ig
yes but what do i out word for word? I've put my name as 'Xen' just incase, chosen shout out...
https://truckers.fm/ click "sned shoutout"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8cTQVWIL_c&ab_channel=Clippermi the original shoutout i mentioned
GigaChad Radio
★ Neuro-sama Twitch:
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★ Neuro-sama Official Discord Server:
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https://www.youtube.com/user/Vedal987
Thanks for watching, and remember to like and subscribe for more Neuro-...
though we also have to think about what vedal would do like
dum idea
go ahead
ok...
Success
haha my mouse disappeard
that seems easy enough to do quickly.
happy clap along if you feel like a room without a roof

i love waiting
can't we just waterboard vedal until we get a clue smh
soooo much
sure, just find him first
song is going to end very soon
wanna look at some snapping turtle photos i took?
tunein at https://truckers.fm
uh
OK OK the person live (Stones, trans girl) just said wot in the middle of the thing. She sounds like vedal.
youd have to listen to understand
bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it keep son looping
im listenin to trucker fm but i wasn't here for a sec
oh
press > to hear the hits, press f75 to hear the shoutouts this is basically whats happening - nothing interesting, and you cant get to the shoutouts
CHA CHA SLIDE
f75?
fair enough

sure
brb

FAFKLDAJFEKIA

yeah and we learned trucker fm knows vedal still so that cool
HE SAID vedal like medal
well he uk so
i really wanna say that vedal is hosting an arg and that was a test ahahahha
be right back again
well we'd just confuse them lol
but they'd probably not care, although it would make them maybe take notice
brb
back
what immado is im gonna check their site, seewhat their policy is on requests
ight
It looks like they only play songs from spotify. Spotify doesn't have numbers, but we can still see if we can request it as they are pretty social-media-y so they might be able to.
well what are you thinking of requesting?
Hey hold on a moment. I think doing so will cross a boundry
We've been theorising.
Let's not bother truckers FM, tho
yeah please dont lol
this started it
anyways i have nothing to do
What.
You gotta keep patient or entertain yourself somehow. Going schizo and bothering people will not solve anything
so i was cooking but i had to go to work, heres what my train of thought here is. We still have some text we havent decrypted (i.e Number 2 description) If we assume it is encrypted with an AES algorthim similar to what we've seen before, with the way AES and the function from the Numbers 1 song works, we (in theory) can narrow it down to about 1 million different keys, if my assumptions are correct
I am writing a script to go through and look for any interesting output, but im not sure if doing it this way would be considered sequence breaking or not 
well good luck
What do you mean we haven't decrypted Numbers II's description text? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oBEX9j0Z32UQtVnnojsNFDCIz21R7LnyuoSp_2Uila0/edit#heading=h.xkie3lgax65p
Currently there are no ciphertexts that haven't been decrypted afaik
eh whatever maybe im just a little too schizo right now
we thought not having answers was bad but turns out not having problems to work on is even worse for the psyche
absolutely devastating.
Sadly, all but the phone number and the QR code hasn't been solved.
We have absolutely no idea what to do for the phone number and the QR code is still being developed.
and the opened soundcloud DMs
*has been solved.
Oh yeah, that too the most recent breakthrough in the past... Month...

You know you can edit messages, right? :p I do it all the time
I prefer doing the asterisk correction.
fair enough
Do you guys think the issue is lack of fresh blood.
i'm fairly confident that it's a matter of waiting for a thing to happen
Back to counting syllables 
Arg hints after vedal eats a shoe on stream like he promised during the very sober camila collab
Give it 900 years
Surely
go to sleep nothing new
only if we get a dying neuro because shes in a cave
and a new qr code

i just need more coffee to stay up
Oh wow it's the same old @_neurosama yt qr code
don't worry: next (next) time
wow, imagine 
yeah?
what if we put all of the corruption together in one image from PSV
I think someone did that
QR-code like, but large parts missing, and none of those anchor squares
doesnt numbers 2 have corruption too?
I think the all videos have some form of corruption or another
Try it, it's not entirely crazy
we might get a clue
unlike most ideas here 
kinda finishing a presentation will get on it later
arite
Dark was studysama all along
this ARG is going to be the end of me 
no derailing life over an ARG. RL comes first
nuh uh
who
no, lomi is not here
Holy reverb.
weird color filter
damn they've even got the cave sounds
I think it's supposed to be the little vegetations lights bouncing off to Neuro.
#livestream-chat going crazy over it lel
The noises are 100% a clue 
we need to look at the impulse response of the reverb 
background tutel is a clue 
🤔
where tf is this cave from
Painting of lake, Dear Esther, Source Engine, entertainment, video games HD wallpaper size is 1920x1080, a 1080P wallpaper, file size is 384.61KB, you can download this wallpaper for PC, mobile and tablet
this?
wtf that image is smaller than the background
there are some high res downloads further down
Could just be expanded via something like stable diffusion
though from the looks of its its from the game dear esther
definitely a game render. The lighting is weird.
it looks like source across the whole image to me
lol
time to go back I guess. surely there's a clue inside. just have to find the correct cave 
exactly
Am I going full schizo, or does she keep mentioning Memories a lot this stream
Had the same thought but sometimes she keep saying the same thing for no reasons 
Okay this is getting scary WTF
spectrograme time

LMAO
she was kinda doing that during yesterday's dev stream too
I'll let it up to you because I'm actually trembling in fear
waht song is it?
nothing

I'm being paranoid but look at the song lyrics and tell me she didn't tell she was in her dreams, she liked dancing, and she couldnt escape

edit: really idk
Yeah no checked the audio and there's nothing to be found, probably just a random sound
U sure ? I may be wrong but I remembered this kind of lyrics
Absolutely not sure
Btw did the strange sounds happened at regular intervals or random moments ?
seems random
can we somehow get a log of every chat message ?
Idk except from VOD, wich isn't the best way ig
You have unlocked new role
it is possible to extract and OCR text from video data. Something I know too much about....
Well it's just random cave noises so I doubt it's ARG related
if he publicly talks about it then yeah it's most probably no related to arg
she said "save me" u guys this is def a clue 
i have it on in the background and that keeps grabbing my attention lol
btw it was this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ppBmTS9T2U&t=3217s
(obviously very loud)
lmao
Jesus christ
💀
I don't know if it means anything, but earlier Neuro said her "evil side" was repressed or something, and now she's acting like she doesn't know Hiyori.
[4]6S 
evil neuro is repressed by vedal because she's starting to overtake the channel

So has anyone received a message back from the soundcloud profile still nothing on my end 
I'm not too sure what the conclusion is, either. I'm imagining that Study girl is a failed product compared to Hiyori, since the latter fully embraced being an artificial human. Could be a twisted love kind of thing, Hiyori also knows Study girl is suffering with her identity.
In the songs, Hiyori is seen as being a lot calmer compared to Study girl.
It's also possible that Hiyori's trying to hide both of their history, going as far as to "let it all burn". Study girl, the unstable product, is prone to leaking history and Hiyori wants to get rid of it. The turning point was the SoundCloud, where Study girl captures Hiyori capability to produce alter egos.
Axl
SO TRUE
Qr code?


Interesting 
you guys are way more shizo without stuff to solve 
Wait, Hiyori and Study Girl are different?

what, who, us? nah, just your imagination 

zero
30.06 
a little bird told me there will be a new qr code today
i think that bird is on drugs
same qr



he said next 
update: still nothing from the soundcloud


sanity check
i mean just scroll up a bit, they are all completly sane, no shizo going on
there's no way, what is that channel?!?!? 
I though it was just Vedel secret Music channel

Surely it is just an alt account we are supposed to take at face value, nothing suspicious going on 
Guy what happened in the steam while I was 
vedal finished the among us mod, abandoned archive is now released, half life 3 was released, and GTA 6 is available for pre-order
nothing for the arg though 
Study is a fucking cognito hazard.
Friend:
"I've listened to [S]tudy from 9 am to 6:45 pm today"
"I am actually dying"
"I think I'm going insane"
"I hear it now"
"When it's not playing"
"It's just going on in my head"
She doesn't even follow Neuro or the ARG lol
This is how we get them 
yeah this seems like the schizo room
nahhhhhhh, just your imagination 
Guys
I may be schizo (I am)
What if we can get the tags from the videos

Like the keywords the creator can set when they upload the video (not the ones in the description)

Better than nothing
Bold of you to assume GTA 6 comes out later than Half-Life 3.
hmm i dunno, based on the some online tools I searched on google, none of the videos have any tags
it's useless to compare infinities within the same cardinality 
Hbd Shiro
What's new?
It's now possible to dm the Soundcloud account, other than that there have been no clues whatsoever
for those not following the canvas chats

$30 to continue the ARG
Neuro-arg DLC, coming next year
Can't wait to use my Amazon voucher to buy the next ARG clue
... and that's all to end up with another "next next next time" qr code 
monday is interesting
next next next time qr code will be huge, it's 3x next and 3 is related to the ARG
also ARG has 3 letters, I think that's a clue 
anyone has any more copium? I ran out an hour ago
I can give you some
I've been hella inactive recently so I prob have a lot in store
idk if this was done im too lazy to check but here's EOG results for the numbers
📱
├ Number: 447537130663
├ Country: United Kingdom
└ Operator: Stour Marine Limited
📓 Possible names:
└ New N
📧 Telegram: found
👁 Interested in: only you
🏅 Reputation: (0)👍 (0)👎
i dont think there was whatsapp in the googlr doc
Lmao its like "ur the only one interested in this phone number" but still funy
Hmm, I remember trying this. If it's not in the doc, we probably forgot to write it down, woops 
WhatsApp, including the 24hr thing is already documented: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n3nEfer7vQcE4yIQAQyoBiWsi3r7f5mfgwmEUNXZ3AI/edit#heading=h.btqri817mt27
Telegram using the metadata bot & Aaron Lie too: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n3nEfer7vQcE4yIQAQyoBiWsi3r7f5mfgwmEUNXZ3AI/edit#heading=h.m22w3se9atdr
@timid swift If you don't mind, I'll embed the imgbb images directly on our Google docs. Just in case a meteriote strikes ibb servers tomorrow or something
Lost or new? Check out Study - JS program/Phone Number JS program Timestamp: 10:21 in the study video The code is similar to the example code from the MessageMedia Node.js library (a library for automatic SMS messages for businesses). A quick check of the library's dependencies shows no ob...
AARON WH

of course. You'll never have to ask permission :) It's a collective effort. I'm just the docs obsessed guy
having a copy is a good idea also if things change like with the soundcloud
Schizos, together, strong.
Google docs is trolling me, I can't change the background of that one damn cell
I always just copy paste and change the value for that reason lel
Though I often forget to update the timeline when nothing happens -- and when something does, usually someone's there real quick!
I want to participate in the ARG but I feel so damn behind
is there an understandable resume so far ?
we have a google doc
there's also a video summarizing most of the stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ4OIByLXlQ
Thanks to the peeps in the Neuro ARG discord for helping to check the script for the video.
The link to the Google docs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17KrbPUAVu4wDTbj3sBtWTnjRsjDTCdh89F_5L1LvX0A/edit
The link to the discord server: https://discord.gg/neurosama
The main ARG YouTube Channel: @_neurosama
Another way to READ (WIP): ht...
Note that the video is not 100% accurate, breezes over a lot of info, and doesn't contain the latest info
(though to be fair the latest is a lot of schizoing lmao)
The google doc in question https://docs.google.com/document/d/17KrbPUAVu4wDTbj3sBtWTnjRsjDTCdh89F_5L1LvX0A/edit
As for participating, welcome to the waiting room.. :p
the next stream will have a new qr code, absolutely
evil stream on monday.. That's in like forever!
we'll have something new, we'll have something new...
i wonder if they'll put clues in real locations, but i doubt it
how many nations do we have in this server
depends who you ask, there is no way to answer that question without stepping on a landmine
lmao, yes let's not go there
let me rephrase that, where are people generally from
earth 
the loony bin
welp im going to the train tracks
It's hard to tell really. I mean, we all just write English, and a lot of people seem to have messed up streamer sleep schedules, so you can't even measure by active hours
I was gonna say
nah you good, i'm from there 
convert the penguins and polars to get them to help in the arg
wait theoretically, you'd be in all the timezones if you live in antartica
googling "how to visit antartica" for research purposes
time doesn't exist in the north & south poles
surely we get to see the ending of the arg then 
man, so lucky nobody lives there imagine having no time zones?? 
Imagine visiting...
live forever life hack
literally stepping out of time
yoo chatters we gotta stop global warming, we need land at the poles for reasons
"hey I'll meet you at 4:00" this could be any time of the day. You can't even use the sun for reference
time zones are confusing and complicated and should be abolished
@placid rock has leveled up! (7 ➜ 8)
The ARG is currently stuck now, has been for a month. We have 2 clues and that is the phone number and the fact we can DM the Soundcloud profile.
And what looks like a promise that we'll get more stuff on one of the stream countdown waiting screens
We must've missed something, somewhere
surely vedal didn't hide the clue in a old vod 
Let's rewatch every vod, maybe the clue is hidden deep below
here's a scary thought. if vedal does the subathon, does it mean there won't be clues for as long as the subathon lasts? 
i don't see how that's any different than right now 
yeah we're strapped in for 3 years, 2 months is nothing
tbh my mind will be blown if arg progression happens during subathon
it will mean there is someone among us 
surely not 
you make it sound like subathon is right around the corner
i mean the timeline is between now and 2026, surely the subathon must happen within this period 
fair.
this exact vid is why i follow this board
i dont have them here but there are online tools to download the mp4 from youtube and then online tools to convert to mp3. i wouldnt be surprised if like Audacity could do it too
its 76 mb 
was just about to download it but you can send one
yeah gimme one minute
ok its uploading but im on super slow wifi
itll be done uploading in like a minute
actualyl

i shall hotspot
I just converted the video to an MP3
ic
i also have all the other videos downloaded if you want their mp3s
yea sure

i just realised i don't think i've even watched psv
bred.. you literally solved stuff several times yet you haven't seen public static void..?

skill issue

Well folks, same QR code as always

Hear me out, the characters in that emote could be an encoded clue
QR code is the same?! 
Cool thought
Anything could be anything until proven otherwise
Nobody has proven that Vedal is infact a human, he could have been the ai all along
no next time schizo
that's only on evil streams tho
shitty screenshot sorry
surely that's a clue 
has that happened before with anything else she says?
Clue?!
wheres the documentary for wild schizos?
wild? nah we're civilized people carefully examining real clues with perfect precision

y'all got any more of them arg clues?
hey guys this is unrelated but ||is there anyway to separate the voices in the chorus when neuro sang The Wellerman on stream (the chorus was different and someone was wondering if Vedal was one of the voices)
(Asking you guys because you're probably smart enough to do it lol)||
Spoilered for being unrelated
This is also the only couple of messages I will be sending here, no more bugging you guys from now on
Also now that I think of it, if you separate the voices you might find something else as well
Ok bye💀
tried my hand at it, my audio skills are too abysmal to do this
you mean the google docs? 
Update to my friend, she's listened to Study for 12 hours straight
Me at the start of the ARG. I had to cut myself off from the source for a while there lmao
at least its a banger
ye
You wouldn't be able to split them with traditional signal processing when they're that close together. There might be AI tools that can do this, but I haven't heard of it yet. Use your AI brain, StevenTheAI :p
ok
I'm just going to believe that vedal's voice is in there somewhere 
Based on the tequila bit, I think it's safe to say that it would have to be a replication of his voice 
I mean
he didn't even actually sing tequila
he just spoke the "lyrics"
it amounts to the same tho -- if he doesn't wanna sing one word, why would he sing a backing voice to wellerman?
By the way #programming is also full of smarties that know stuff c:
fair point
but that also brings up the question "what caused the occurrences in the audio"
the occurrences of what again?
how the audio in the chorus seems off
off how? It seemed pretty good to me
btw just wondering
have you tried putting the Neuro karaoke songs through a spectrogram
I think we did for world.execute(me) when we were schizoing over a single comment by Alex
talk to Mal when he wakes up and he'll tell you more
I'm not really qualified to talk about this kind of stuff lol
fair fair~
hmm
you should look at more of them
surely it's not that hard to do right?
It should be fairly trivial, just takes some time to go through it all.
The question is, what leads us there? Like, we need to follow a chain of evidence to get from clue to solution
ok
I guess everything from the v2 debut onwards should be good
shrug
alright I'm going to head back off to general
I did also try copying a sample of the drum beat at the beginning of the song, sync it to the beat and did a phase cancellation to get just the vocals, but I can't get clean vocal-only audio. Think discerning different voices will be diffcult via traditional methods
At least with my sane non-schizo level effort
If I was schizo, which I am most definitely not, I would find the exact audio with the exact length used for the drum beats (which I did search for), do a phase cancel, analyze the frequencies used by the first voice, cancel those in subsequent audio, and then so on
you can get vocal only from the final chorus of the song tho
I think
Shower thought but what if Vedal is waiting for us to solve something first?
Unlikely but still.
Seems to only be the last few lines, not the full chorus. But hmm, maybe I can phase cancel that to get enough samples of the beat drum to do another phase cancel for the entire song
if anyone wants to try, please be my guest. i have life to do atm
wait, what's going on here?
If I was schizo, which I am most definitely not
It's definitely possible, but I don't know what to solve. The few things we have I don't know what to do with that we haven't tried.
looking at the digital modulation notes we made, it looks like we never did try the CI tone, only CT and fax CNG. We also didn't try getting hold of an oldschool modem, and calling in, but that seems a little harder
So a solid thing we could try is generate the CI tone and call in to the voice line and play it
Also is the Soundcloud DM something worth looking into?
It's hard to say, really. Nothing's off the table until we know for sure. So i'd say yes. But again, what to do with it. It's the same problem as with SMSing. What to send? Do we expect a reply?
I'm assuming that things like BBSes use similar dial up negotiation sequences, and since they're older protocols, that they wouldn't have smart multi function systems where the caller initiates the digital modulation conversation - so you'd hear beeps and boops simply by calling. But i can't really find any info on it
After looking a bit more, it seems that there were no handshakes or anything like that. Both sides just start sending messages when they feel like it. So I guess we could try patching a telnet terminal through a phone and call the number. Hit some keys and see if anything at all comes back. I can see from googling a bit that there are apps to do it with a smartphone, but I can't call the number to test it myself.
Heck, could even telnet to the phone number and write "save me..."
^ could you list the apps? either skulblakka or bred should be able to test them whenever they are free
nvm i think bred is on vacation
yeah but im still in the uk
also i am currently failing to program some rust 
forgot to derive hash
set everything to static lifetime and use unsafe 
i wish it was that simple
The smartphone thing I said wasn't right. It was just telnet over IP, not the older phone version of telnet (before it got standardized). I'm still getting my head around it. It was before my time. I only used telnet to play nethack on the internets before it all got converted to ssh lel. edit: It appears that when connected they're similar, the big confusion for me is that telnet is the internet version and teletype/TTY is the text part regardless if it's the internet or a phone line.
And smartphones can enter that TTY mode during a call as a hearing & speaking aid??
https://blog.prepscholar.com/what-is-tty-mode-on-a-cell-phone
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207033
https://www.androidauthority.com/what-does-tty-mean-3332289/
Wow TIL
It is basically text data transfer over voice. That's actually really cool
I don't see why telnet can't work over this
What a cool way to use ancient tech
Telnet is TTY + IP/TCP it seems. But it's all a little wishy washy since the specs were written after the fact that people already were using teletype over the phoneline. Edit: This also isn't right lel, but we're getting there. Telnet is not TTY at all.
So yeah, we can absolutely try calling the phone number and type things on TTY
I can try that in a few hours
Nice!
assuming it works off of a virtual keyboard
It'd be weird af if it didn't
Vedal lowkey teaching us phone tech I won't otherwise learn
vedal lokey corpa for big smartphone, getting the last dumbphone users to convert because of cool features
Also: I got SO many details wrong over the journey but at least I discovered that smartphones can TTY lel
Full version of "I think I saw a ghost" plz 
if tutel doesn't, we'll have to do it usselves
i know im not (really) participating but what are you guys talking about
oldschool BBS telephone dial up forums and the way those communicated
yup uh huh i totally understand
moving this back up in case anyone still wants to do it (no ping)
but discord chats go down.. 
b eifb rekgjf re
(also keep in mind that this is pretty much a side quest that has a very small (but nonzero) chance of finding a clue)
everything is a sidequest until it isnt
ok I'm free to try stuff now
do we want to try tty full or tty hco or something else
ok I'm not getting a keyboard or anything
though it rang for a solid 35 seconds
ok it definitely does something weird with hco
took 40 seconds to go to voicemail
hung up after a minute total time
such a hassle that I can't get this to record
thanks windows
clearly these aren't connected
it still rings through my phone
oh, huh. I saw that there was supposed to be a software mode and an hardware mode, at least on android. So it should work just with the phone I think
I get no results when searching for tty
like on google? "smartphone tty"
nah on my settings app
oh we're doing something again here
oh, I thought you found it
there's only the ability to turn tty mode on in phone settings
but no keyboard or anything
right
maybe tty mode is for receiving text and doing text to speech
no, seems like it should be both ways - full mode should be both
I haven't found anything similar for android, but on iphone it looks like you just click a button once TTY is enabled
I tried as well. Had to download the google phone app since my default samsung one doesn't seem to have any settings for this. but it doesn't look like this actually work.
Yeah I could also only find iPhone screenshots for Software TTY
yeah for me its just the same ui
though sometimes i get a "conditional forwarding active" message
when you say it didn't work, you mean you also got no popup keyboard?
yes. no change at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObribrxrSgc looks like you also need to enable it in the phone app?
(I'm also on Samsung fwiw)
that's what I did
oh, i thought it was in the phone settings
maybe we can recruit a brit with an iphone 
I found a java program that seems to generate the 5 bit baudot codes used by an acoustic coupled TTY
i'd run a poll but i don't think there are any believers left 
curious if baudot codes are still what they use
(warning: might be loud)
oh, so that's what it sounds like
If I understand it correctly TDD/TTY isn't used at all anymore and was replaced by RTT which uses fancy digital protocols to allow text and voice at the same time without the need of those funky sounds above interrupting the audio
how is it transferred then? Like out of band of the audio signal?
Also, can we just pause for a moment and think about the analog waves in the air between phone and tower transferring digital data packages that represent an analog voice line which we are now trying to shove a digital message into?
since it's digital it's just in another data channel next to the main voice channel. one of the RFCs I found regarding this topic https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5194.txt (this one also mentioned something called a cellular text telephone modem + the above baudot textphone)
Right, thought that'd be the case. It just makes sense
What happens if you play this load of noise at the voice line?
does tty mode work if the other person has it off
No, they'd would've heard that loud sound in the past, and now it would be soundless if it's carried over a sidechannel
just tested it
nothing
only maybe notable thing is that the call lasted the full 2:21 and didn't hang up like it does when you remain silent or send DTFM codes
here's the program I used for the sounds in case someone else wants to play around with it: https://github.com/jbush001/TDDEmulator/tree/master
Seems like some of the call length discussions we had gave us that length too
yeah, I think 2:21 is the maximum call length
yeah, that's what I'm seeing too
unrelated to the TTY stuff: I don't know if we never tried it or just never wrote it down but attempting to send a fax to the number results in "The remote machine you dialed is not a fax machine"
We didn't directly, but we did try sending the first tone that goes in a fax conversation
So you just sent a fax? What'd you use? I'm assuming not a faxing machine (for documenting what's been done)
The router I use has a build in fax machine (I have internet and landline coming in through the same connection)
to be exact: transfer is using T.30 with G.711 encoding over a VoIP landline. T.38 fax isn't supported by my provider
.. how do you tell the router to fax? Like using it as a printer or something?
this phone number hates me 
?
It's also the base station for my landline. I can just send a fax by entering text or giving it a file to transfer. (and I get receiving faxes(?) as a PDF)
I swear it just gets more complicated the more I ask lmao
clearly skulblakka just has the correct stuff (tm) to test these things
well i've noted that we've tried faxing and the attempt type
has anybody tried using Fibonacci in the phone call? (use the number pad)
hi fellow schizophrenics
Please tell me it's a new code...
which also means we're slowly running out of leads again 
we already used the fib somewhere else
i would never lie to you
why not then use it in the call?
How Would We Use It?
Not sure how to explain it. It's just a function of the router/modem/phone thingy I have. I click on "fax" and can enter a number, text and file and it sends it as a fax 
HWWUI
as in type it out
or hardwarewareui
how'd the file get on there? lmao. Like is there an FTP server on it
I can't get the QR code.
i dont get it
I said as much as we can
browser interface
id give it a shot
just keep going 
alr
but it does also have a build in ftp server 
actually why dont we design and make a robot
that automatically
presses
fib keys
on the numpad
to much time and effort for one thing
I knew it! At least it makes sense now lmao
welcome to the way programmers do things
I’ll pay Vedal to do it, who’s in?
automating a small repetitive task
skul, how did you get your hands on your router? why does it have so much functionality 
my router is horrible
ur router can do the same things
why spend 5 minutes doing something manually when you can spend 5 hours trying to automate it 
nope, i can assure you that it can't

350€ router 
the chad programmer method


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