#Neuro ARG
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i checked all of the sherlocked stuff, just in case. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PS_oYLl6riQIzKj1NxEQag-7a2QpaGBh1b5sYaFYLvA/edit
Intro Hey, xendyex here. Iโm going schizo tryna sort my ramblings, soโฆ here is a rambling space. And yes, it may include gifs and other stuff. Time to Ramble! ok Numbers and study seem more connected than lyrics, i just dont know how. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ACCAf8eFyzHeN22-WedFi...
this is done twice right
anyway looks irrelevant since all we're doing is initiating
oh yo, the whole thing is the calling tone
uhm uhh i uhh uhm please send me a simpe doc explaining this, or smth to get be started, please?
it's bursts of ON/OFFs, then OFF for a duration, then bursts again
So this is the plan of action, correct?
- Generate a Call Tone: 0.6s sin wave at 1300 Hz, then 1.75s silence, repeat a few times
- Play back the Call Tone from a smartphone/skype after calling the phone number. Play during the silent period at the start before the answering machine takes over.

shesh i cant send images
gotta chat more to get embed perms
i just need to be even more schizo
lmao there's a wiki article for answer tone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_tone
anyone realised this is a pong screen? its not in the docs, from what i can tell
pong?
You have unlocked new role
yea that's why i thought about just copying CT, cuz there is a lot of these already on wiki
You have unlocked new role
Pong is a table tennisโthemed twitch arcade sports video game, featuring simple two-dimensional graphics, manufactured by Atari and originally released in 1972. It was one of the earliest arcade video games; it was created by Allan Alcorn as a training exercise assigned to him by Atari co-founder Nolan Bushnell, but Bushnell and Atari co-founder...
Oh I know this sound. Now I also know what it is, pog
pongchamp
its just without a ball or a split line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaWpi9o_hHI god this video is a lot more understandable now
This basically just places the signal identification at the right time.
The blue and red tags are for V.34... but it should do justice since it uses the same signal.
Based off of http://www.windytan.com/2012/11/the-sound-of-dialup-pictured.html
it could be v.8
also xendy the virgool looks like arabic to me but im just some rando who used to play geoguessr
oh ok
iwonder if vedal has coded an ai for pong 
Modems not starting with the V.8 call initiation tone often use this tone.
ok so there is a lot of chances that it'll work
what is "this"? The Call Tone from before?
https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1112082183235047506 literally going insane postulating over a silent phone line
eh i just thought it was cool how i could recognize parts of the early nego process now
Well, it's an avenue we haven't properly explored yet
can't find the v.25 calling tone
yeah i think we'll need to generate it
i tried making it on audacity based on what i believe is right, but it seems weird
ah lol I should've been more clear. Directed at what tejras was saying
like, 1.5s off feels sus
nvm i google translated it (turned out to be persian language) and it translates to 404 page not found 
fun
What is happening rn
im pong theory-ing
ah it's about the CT we are looking for
Oh ok
i found it here https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2833
do you think you can do a loopback pipe of that audio file into a google voice call or something and try it out
idea: What if we have to initiate a digital conversation with the phone number before the answering machine comes on.
rip headphone users (me)
@safe monolith
so how far are we with the dial up idea? are we in motion or still theorising?
trying to send the V.25 call tone since it should be broadly compatible with V.8 implementing devices
me watching this whilst listening to fanchen's rush e: oh cool also why is this song stuck in my head
Seems to comply more or less: V.25 CT 1300 0.5 2.0
ye and a thing is, as i understand it's compatible with most of them or something
cya 
I need to do work I've put off for 2 hours 
same
am i only one who's free rn
I'll have a go at making and playing the tone back over skype when I get home
but at the same time the one who barely understands something 
doesn't it the same on 10
they just lazu to change everything
xp was a whole different window so it aint xp
yeah
hacking in vedal's PC in 3... 2...
gives you a virus, refuses to elaborate
windows 10 but some of those dialogue are copied 1 to 1 from windows 98 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ruNfajgUr0 this will forever stay in my brain
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Get the song from this video wherever digital music is sold/streamed!
Also, I MADE A PARTY GAME FOR CONSOLES! Itโs...
https://soundcloud.com/funky-studios/aol-dial-up-trap-remix my gawd it's cursed
"We people in the 90's had AOL to let us visit new worlds on our PC'S"
-ur dad - 2019
what like a rotary phone? lmao
mine doesn't seem to work
What were you doing anyway?
trying to dailup to the phone number
Right, but like emulated or do you have an actual dial up modem and landline?
Oh, right. Memory. You did say you had access to a modem. I didn't think that it meant you could also set it up to run lmao.
and live in the UK tho?
It's just a phoneline at that point. Can call internationally, but yes you gotta be able to call the UK
I'm testing with the GSM modem but I'm not sure I'm even doing the correct thing 
I'm calling from germany
Well, you're not doing the wrong thing by trying things
buy stamps and an envelop, and mail it to someone who lives in the uk then 
I know that this has happened during bigger ARGs. Shipping of hardware
wow
can't imagine that dedication lol
i've totally not got 4 things to do and won'tdo them cause of the arg
vedal watching the arg go careening into the wrong direction: 
next time will always be
another day
look better
and you find a way
look better. dum idea: qr code is binary, not qr code
going to try to get an audio loop setup for Google voice
It's not the wrong direction if it's possible
https://scratch.mit.edu/users/_neurosama/ <----------- whoa
wait what
source?
same but weird
the neurosama twitter acc with no posts
so where'd you get it from?
i searched on scratch ._.
but like at the same time, who tf would fake it through scratch
ah, i see
i was looking on random sites, decided to start with scratch
ok. my modem is definitely not able to get a response from the number when trying to perform dailup
i imagine its a twitter-like account, to keep fakers
And if you call it normally like with a phone on that same line it works, right?
prob a trololo but might be fun to try decoding the base64 anyways
yes
sad
but like I said it's a GSM/LTE modem, no idea it would even be compatible with plain old landline modems
Right, but even so it's ruling GSM/LTE out
can i get the model of your modem?
yep, it's worth a try
just want to look into how it works, which protocols it supports
bootleg scratch troll part 1
the one I tested with is a Quectel BG95-M3. I also have a Quectel BG96 but the feature set should be identical
welp that wasnt hard
cringe trolling
@brittle musk has leveled up! (3 โ 4)
LESGO
all documentedhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1UJdlxvCFa0ZOmMSZxSfDMPgSMP0JfXMqo1CNEGmTJtw/edit?pli=1
Scratch Profile On July 18, 1346, 2023, I stumbled across this scratch profile: https://scratch.mit.edu/users/_neurosama/ here is a photo: And the profile comments: (dont ask about my pfp) There is no code. (in only project) I imagine it is a troll. Solutions:
and the "Okokugcina, okokuqala, ezinhlanu." means Last, first, five.
im gonna go play some gd
how can we confirm if this is real
not much to solve tbh
If the chain of evidence points to it, then it's real, otherwise we have to assume it's not.
i wonder what this means if its related to the arg
is it telling us theres another channel?

well there's a project with xyz abc 543 thingy named "first last five"
would i need access to be able to create a document in the ARG folder?
LMAO I THOUGHT google translator showed me half of a name of language
looking to document the chronicles of talking to the number
No, everyone can edit
there was a homework of someone so i suppose not
LMAO
you just gotta be logged in. Make an alt if you're about to dox yourself
this happened twice
doxxing yourself is fun
bruh even if scratch thingy is real idk if there is still something to decode with "first last five - xyz abc 543"
my big best friend will be adding all the socials for fast access in the website (for example https://neurosama.top/arg/documentation/soundcloud)
ig it means xc5?
yea like first is X in xyz and five just five
makes sense
I wrote a short bit about it. But i think you'll be better able to fill out the details
idk if there is something to do with that
ok i'll do it there
still i will sms it 
my writeup of things so far https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n3nEfer7vQcE4yIQAQyoBiWsi3r7f5mfgwmEUNXZ3AI/edit#heading=h.qwtzmbjd5df0
(i wrote like the top half)
ty @timid swift
like the 5/6th top half nearly it damn all~ :p
This refers to analogue sites, which support voice, fax and data transmission via landlines by adhering to specific protocols established by the ITU-T. Any incoming call is not identifiable with respect to these properties in advance of going "off hook" by the terminal equipment.
so yeah it's def possible that the answering machine is behind some sort of discriminator
in other words, there are/were real world use of voice call lines that could be taken in a whole different direction - it's not just something we're making up
I think it's a pretty reasonable approach, honestly. I would've gone here much earlier, but I had assumed that the answerer always had to initiate the conversation
the more things we try, the more we narrow down the possibilities
although knowing us it's like expanding into unknown territory, the more we know the more we don't 
wait does this bring the fax meme back into the equation too?
Yes, it does!
@dapper wraith epic ping, but what happens if you dial your own phone number?
ima cringe so hard if that turns out to be it after joking about it from the start
Why tho x2
ITU-T T.30 for facsimile transmission https://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-T.30/en
this one is much worse
but presumably you can just use a normal fax machine
because I literally made an account on a UK fax service site for the meme then backed out after seeing I'd need a monthly subscription to be able to receive as well as send...
tryna think if the answering modem could just be entirely software. so we have a voice line, then on top of that, modem sounds
Oh how much it hurts to see you go...
but given how this whole thing works, probably nothing of note will happen
facts
Can fax be fully virtualized?
At least it's a good lead even if wrong and not completely schizo.
yeah its called an email
Right, dunno if it has been mentioned before, but typically we can tell the difference between phone numbers and landlines based on the phone number prefix. If we're making conjectures based on how much effort was put into the ARG, I doubt fax is connected to a mobile number
Sketchy site that may tell us about what the phone number may be: https://kenstechtips.com/index.php/uk-telephone-numbering-cost-from-mobile
https://faxauthority.com/how-to-receive-a-fax/ on the bottom. While it doesn't say how, it does claim it's possible
inb4 +44 7537 130663 at gmail dot com
I think it's safe to assume that there's not a faxing machine connected regardless if it actually responds to fax or not. Imagine if we found out there was a faxing machine and used up all tutels paper. Not to mention, even a used faxing machine is probably expensive today.
Generating lyrics is such a pain 
tbh in which character's perspective was this said in
kinda weird for arg creator to just self-insert "damn making songs sucks"
yea tru
generating sounds like what AI does
Just a normal account afaik
doesn't look any different. but I think there might also be some codes dail codes required in addition to the phone number. I will do some more testing once I'm no longer at work 
inb4 we have to send a Call Tone, but in the pattern of the eye flitter
what about soundcloud/447537130663
Nothing, but not a bad idea to use it as an id for a random service
I can send DTMF codes via the modem but since I only have them for data communication there's no audio codec connected
Add another six yeah
damn, I was searching around to see if there are ways to probe this. My google search suggests that such tools don't exist on windows 
where do they exist? And do they run in WSL
I don't follow. what do you want to probe?
mainly to figure out if we get a modem-like response at any point
hello
didn't someone say earlier that they still have a landline modem lying around? maybe they could try to connect
Why can't we just use some VoIP modem-dialing software to play the connection sound?
does that exist 
perhaps
I do have my home PC connected as a phone to my landline (VoIP based tho). if we have the sounds I could try to play them via that later
(although I'm not sure if I can do international calls on my landline since I never use it
)
This is my plan. I'm not at home right now
Oh
So unless you can beat me to it and gain all the glory :p
try out this sound clip too, whoever's giving VoIP a shot
so looking at the fax spec it seems like it should be fairly similar to dail-up at least in terms of testing for a call-and-response:
send 1100Hz for 500ms, wait for a 2100Hz response
basically the same thing you'd do for the dail-up but with 1100Hz instead of 1300Hz
oh, the specs looks really similar. there should definitely be some example fax tones online, let me see if I can recreate
strange, I can't replicate the iconic sound with audacity's tone generator at 1100Hz
oH
nevermind i'm dumb, I just realized the reference I'm using only plays the 2100Hz response because the caller is on a phone ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
could you reference the exact section in the spec?
theres a bunch of examples starting with the CNG -> CED <- pattern which is basically the same thing as CT and the other one from dailup (idk why they gotta rename these things)
more detail
Flip the numbers backward 
this should do it
Make the two a three, yeah
are u guys going schizo over the phone number?
ABCDEFG 
sounds like a square wave more than a sine but im guessing the machines wont care
as a sanity check, here's what you should hear as a response
do not listen with full blast headphones 
Multiply by nine, yeah
yeah it should be a square wave right?
idk i dont want to be a telecommunications engineer
Add the numbers 2,4
thank god i lowered my volume 
2100Hz sine wave sounded more like the dial-up from my youth than 2100Hz square
17 is first, yeah
yeah definitely, but square makes more sense for electronics related stuff
ABCDEFG
you failed the alphabet, back to kindergarten with ye (edit: 1984)
only for pure digital or PWM based systems. doesn't dailup use frequencies modulated onto a carrier signal?

can i use the excuse of english not being my first language?
or is that useless since i literally only speak in english 
its ok the alphabet is a psyop anyway, who says the letters gotta be in that order huh
tbh ive been making a ton of spelling mistakes recently- idk y...
must be the canvas clicking 
hmm yeah you're right. surely a nice square wave will work too, if it works for modulated freq 
square waves are sometimes more difficult for analog systems to understand
because of the super complicated composite sine waveforms
i'd have to look into it
but i would think that most of the waveforms are sinusoidal?
espcially since the spec talks about am modulating certain signals
that's really difficult to do w/ square waves
hmm yeah you're right
since i have time lemme remake the sound files
https://what-when-how.com/voip/fax-and-modem-tones-basics-voip/
ok looking at this, both CNG and CED are continuous sine tones it seems like
14.5 Group-3 fax machines work up to 14400 bps. A fax call starts with a 1100-Hz calling (CNG) tone from the originator and a 2100-Hz ANS acknowledgment tone from the responder. These tones are used to detect the fax call [โฆ]
/ANSam Tones have phase reversals at intervals, couldn't be me
man imagine making tones
doing the lord's work
just so you know CT, CI, and CNG are the three possible start signals to get an answer in ITU-T V.8
so they are distinct but all fairly commonly used
nice that we finally looked into it though lol
might want to document that
I got an old pc modem card and the pc it use to be in.
I did some more research and it seems like it was possible to connect a GSM modem directly to a landline modem by using the circuit switched domain. However both networks I have access to dropped support for this in 2020 and 2023. Now only packet switching is supported.
Not sure how difficult it would be for you to get it up and running (if you even have a compatible landline in 2023) but that would of course be a for sure way to test our modem theory
absolutely. Everything else is an approximation
itd be great if you could tap the line to make your your modem isn't just negotiating with the voicemail lol
seems like skype doesn't want my money. It just hangs on the payment screen. Can't add credits to call lmao. So I guess I can't call unless we find another way. No google voice in my country. sigh Guess I won't be the one to do this then.
Evil stream tomorrow confirmed!
Double evil 
next next next time 
I tried playing those via my landline both during and after the voicemail message and nothing of note happened
Do I even dare to ask how you played soundfiles at a landline?
well it's a VoIP landline. I registered my PC as a telephone at my modem and then used a virtual audio device to reroute my audio output as a mic to the telephone.
me when the postulating out of thin air materializes nothing 
yeah nobody's generated CI yet
CT just stands for call tone
yes, you're right. I just couldn't read for a moment
this is supposed to be ANSam right? we can already use the wikimedia one
oh wait it's /ANSam
wtf
oh well it doesnt really make a different
this is the part where i nod and smile like I pretend I know that those are not the same yet it does not make a difference
pretty sure it's not useful for anything (especially when considering how international calls work) but the call seems to negotiate 64kbps G.711 A-law for the transmission codec
btw I just got super baited by the virtual audio device program I've been using
I played the ANSam sound a listened to the recording of the call and there was some new voice saying something but turns out the program just says "Trail" on the virtual device after 30 minutes 

trial~
trial~

this is a trial, yes
i love how you're playing the expected response tone lmao
I hope vedal doesn't listen to voice messages with headphones
You just said "we can play it from wikimedia" so I scrolled up for the link
Can you give me the correct one?
i mean the CT and CNG are in the doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n3nEfer7vQcE4yIQAQyoBiWsi3r7f5mfgwmEUNXZ3AI/edit#heading=h.xoyofwvfyb4m
i think you already tried those?
yeah, tested my setup by calling my self on my mobile and forgot to turn that one down 
if you're using windows though i've had good experiences with VB-audio cable
it's the same ones vanor linked above right? I tried those
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ANSam.wav
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certainly doesnt look like it
Query to the people who can call the phone number:
What happens if you press the 2 symbol buttons (usually placed at either side of zero)? Pressing star is supposed to open up a login sequence in some systems so you can listen to your voicemails
i'll die if it'll actually do something
hm
i think i pressed star in some calls
and holded it in one probably
Hmm, you don't sound too sure?
not sure my phone supports any holding. the sound it plays back definitely has a fixed length.
and I just tested both * and # don't do anything
ah ye, true
You have unlocked new role
same same
You have unlocked new role
You have unlocked new role
it'll be cool if someone tried too
it was like a week ago already
LESHGOOOO i can send pics now
skulb just did
ya know-
Seeing as how we got the announcement for the evil karaoke quite randomly(even if it was the reason the swarm made the biggest comeback on the canvas) i think tutel has definitely cooked something up for the arg
the timing is just too wierd imo
smh we can't just assume that vedal is a telecom genius and keep using more esoteric telecom tools
what is a cave stream
The reason is because Vedal wanted fo calm the Swarm down after the first cheating incident.
probably just a themed stream. Like neuro has a miner's hat and the background is a cave
ik ik
but still
i think he cooked smth up for tmr
before the canvas

Hm, I doubt it's the karaoke stream but the two dev stream...
I honestly think it could be the dev streams.
one thing we haven't tried at all is if the DTMF codes have to be entered together with the phone number so they get send immediately after the number is dialed but I don't know what we would send 
There's 2 of them.
see the DTMF is sent right after the unhook signal
tru tru
inb4 every song in the evil karaoke has one line in the lyrics changed just like the "Bring me back to life" cover 
so it's part of the dialling process i think?
I'm not sure jf Vedal will jse the Numi collab stream to advance fhe ARG.
But I do have a feeling this week is the time for you lads to shine.
yes
It'd be a bold move, but think about the cross appeal it would also create. The goal of the arg IS to attract people to the stream who might eventually become donors, yes? #adsDoneRight
i think last stream didnt have a qr code because vedal was travelling and couldnt change it
either we get 2/1 qr codes or we're fucked
at least we found a way to entertain usselves today
true
๐ฅ๏ธ โ๏ธ
โ๏ธ ๐ฅ๏ธ

inb4 we just get "next next time" for the third time
I'll sue
Iโll unsue since we have to add on another 6, yeah?
smooth as heck but ill have to sue you because we have to draw a line, yeah?
||ik its add and not draw||
too bad I we gotta do that backwards, yuh uh.
Bro Vedal must be trolling with these Evil Neuro stream intro QR codes lmao
Vedal's on vacation, I'm sure we would have had the next part by now if he wasn't off
I won't expect anything other than "Next time" at least until vedal is back
vedal is back tho
he arrived today i think
if he didnt hes probably arriving tomorrow

Maybe we got too schizo to identify clues 
schizo been we've lately very
just become more schizo 
This ARG be finna crazy
the arg exists 
ARG is REAL!!!
inb4 first song of the karaoke stream be like call all you want cause there's no one home and you're not gonna reach my telephone
And it's Vedal's way of saying "Guys please stop, the telephone company are going to sue me if more calls arrive."
2.5 billion debt
Insignificant numbers as far as our eccentric billionaire is concerned
Maybe 572943 is the bank PIN 
zillionaire
How else do you think anyone could afford a vacation in this day and age 
he owns 11 vacation places
Zillions of dollars
I see this channel is back to normal 

Is the normal quiet brooding or absolute schizo?
absolute quiet schizo brooding
they're all mine 
Nothing more schizo than getting your piano to play Numbers II on it's own. And, I've done it. I won't share it cause you guys are gonna use light analysis or hire a geoguesser pro to dox me, so you just have to take my word for it ๐ (Ubuntu and APlayMidi for the win(APlayMidi can play Mid files?))
19.420.62.120
127.0.0.1 
her* hahaha
My bad.
Surely this is the calm before the storm
Yes, surely.
We're gonna get 3 months worth of clues 
the 3 second clip we get 
can't wait for QRcodes III
can't wait for the 21st of October 
You mean May 15th
Jan 12th
Cabbage apart of arg confirmed
i hope we got clue this time i always get nightmares eveytime i open the doc
You guys are going actually insane 
skipping shizo and going straight to the rubber room i guess
A rubber room with rats. Shadowy figures scurrying in the peripheral of my vision, their squeaks and scratches playing a maddening orchestra. Their tiny, beady eyes reflecting my own insanity. Their constant presence, their relentless squeaking, it pushed me further, it made me crazy. Those rats made me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once.
They put me in a room.
It seems I missed something..

I love following this board. I open discord every once in a while and see that there's new messages.
"Oh, did someone find something useful?"
"No, just more schizo
"
Well, there is a little but everyone is waiting for new adventures, so it's okay just to relax and then continue to work with it all
but here we are with a evil karaoke stream today, it will have us on edge until we see its the same old qr code again

rats 
Double Evil and double dev stream this week, surely we get some new material for the ARG 
monday's stream is planned and this week's stream is a catch up dev stream

4: 2 QR codes 
counts as new ig
there is an old one that loops a couple of time before the new one appears just to shizo us out even more 
Please donโt give the tutel ideas
I wish for the suffering to end
How about two QR codes? 
three.
Maybe the QR code window won't even appear 
its just a window that says "why are you guys blind?" 


Arg disabled due to too many requests
if that appears i have an idea of the next qr code

it's time

Surely not
time
was that the same one?
no way
yeah apparently same qr code
seems to be the same one?
it looks the same 
what a suprise
oh no


go compare it
old one
that's next time
that's actually next time
option 2 win !

thanks
This is just
at this point
Yep it's the same, fuck
new clue will be hidden in the song lyrics 
Veduhl why
V-dull


oh vedal GIVE US A SIGN
Clue is in the intro song frequencies if you put it through a spectrogram 
surely counting the syllables of all the song names would be the hint
1 million views now 
reverse the decimals.
Maybe streams now have an ED screen
me when Study II drops 
I'm excited because study 1 was nice to listen to:)
just need to test SMS during stream or wait for a special song to play maybe
Yeah study 1 was a banger
Well didn't the last video drop on _neurosama during a collab, maybe we'll get another one on friday???
"All i want for christmas is another video!'
Stream the whole thing to the phone number 
Arg entity is just an avid neuro fan who can't watch stream
Download the whole stream, embed it, tokenize it, shove it down the throat of gpt4 and send the resulting tokens to the SMS
nah convert it into Binary store it as Bson and send it to the phone provider of the number
We are early with the weird sounds again
record evil's weird noises and play them on the phone 
surely the constellations in the background will mean something
someone check it against the stars outside
it'll give us a longitude and latitude to send to the phone number
inb4 spells out a qr code
all i see is that bigass one sitting in the middle of the sky
You have unlocked new role
You have unlocked new role
You have unlocked new role
it makes sense the phone number is just waiting for coordinate not just "save me..." we need to tell it where to go to save
You have unlocked new role
i have unlocked new role?
Send our own coordinates because lord knows we need help
||you can now post embeds||
ye
well, except you could before
Ok there is still a chance one of the songs will mean something copium
Yes
surely while singing evil will "loose self control" again
time to check all song if any lyrics changes
actual skill issue 
nothing today either?
there was something
same QR 
a key to get even more crazier
yes, there was a QR code. It was the same
Yeah I looked into that modem card and sadly ATM i have no way of getting a dial connection working. I poked a buddy of mine who ran a Dail up trunk line for some help, but he shut it down a few weeks back
instead of "And no one even knew it was really only you" she sang "And no one really knew it was really only you"
clue 
some of these lyric edits really seem to be designed for us to go schizo 
its vedal just saying "really?"

not twin clue copium

surely
we need to sms our twitch oauth token to the number 
I swear that sounded backwards
"Thnks fr the Mmrs" is missing aoeoie surely that is a key
That's the legit song title
Thanks for the memers is the real name of the song ๐
t9 texting 
has vanilla neuro ever acknowledged evil as her twin?
welp, surely we'll get it next time 

Everything has its time.

apparently going schizo has its time all the time
Well, probably.
Cleaning 
LMFAOOOO
NEXT TIME GUYS SCHIZO
visiting here again after a while
checked the time log
has nothing really happened since i last visited
nothing important to the ARG, that is
maybe "next time" does not refer to a stream, i'unno
when was this prediction made
i am determining whether it should be crossed out
should be crossed out. It was very early, before the first osu stream after "next time"
seems like someone already commented on it ye
well
only one theory remains
we must wait three years for another youtube upload
unless anyone has any other theories
idea we kidnap the tutle and use cia "interrogation" on him for 3 months for new arg info 
i wonder whether he just hasn't thought of more of the story yet
or
maybe he's taking his time and thinking out the entire story right now instead of making it up as he goes like he probably has been doing thus far
I think that section isn't updated with the "next next time" ideas
Oh.
I was really hoping it'd be this stream, but copiuming out that it's gonna be the next chill stream, since that'd be the next next chill stream since the OG next next time appeared
surely evil give us clues 
maybe it will be the numi collab
after all, did we not get a lore nugget after the miyu collab, if i recall correctly
i'm not gonna say that it can't be, but I will say that it doesn't neatly fit any pattern
next next evil stream was today
in what stream was the next next time qr code shown
of any streams?
ah, yes.
was the "next time" code also a chill stream
yep, and next next time was the next evil neuro stream
i thought you were saying it would be the next chill stream
why are you using past tense
as if the stream already happened
let me spell it out, it's al ittle confusing lmao
There was a QR code that just said "next time". It appeared on an evil chill stream. Then at the next evil stream, which was also a chill stream, we got another QR code that after a few hoops docoded to "next next time". Since that we've had a 1 evil stream which was a chill stream, and then today's evil karaoke stream. So I'm saying that my copium is that it's gonna be the from current time next evil chill stream, since we've already had one, and today which is the next next evil stream of any kind wasn't anything
did vedal just forget about the arg or something
doubt
and that's assuming tutel is the puppetmaster. It's a fair assumption but not guaranteed
maybe we have to wait another month so he can drop yet another banger telling us what the fuck to do with the phone number
we did try some new stuff out yesterday with the phone number, not really based on any strong leads, just another solid approach that hasn't paid off https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n3nEfer7vQcE4yIQAQyoBiWsi3r7f5mfgwmEUNXZ3AI/edit#heading=h.qwtzmbjd5df0
well at least that means you aren't just giving up and waiting for the next hint
i doubt he would make another if we just gave up and waited
Yee, i'd love if we could try out more stuff, but I can't even think of anything to try. There's so few things to solve now
hmm
i wonder something
you remember what dhmis did with the number on the booth at the end of dhmis 5, i think it was
is dhmis Don't hug me i'm scared?
i somehow doubt it will yield anything but maybe we should try just looking up the phone number on youtube
yes
i've only seen the first one and it was ages ago i can't remember it
okay well i don't actually need to explain much
there was a phone booth at the end of dhmis 5 and it had a long number on it
looking up the number on youtube yielded a video
Right, the phone number could be intended as a key for something else
The main problem in ARG land is that there needs to be a way to verify that it's not an outsider shoehorning their stuff in. Anyone's got plenty time to put that phone number on their websites now
yeah these are definitely relevant results 
are they really relevant tho? Looks to me like youtube just throwing the best bad match at you
+44 is the country code don't forget. So 077537130663 is also valid
Sarcasm doesn't really work on text :p
i want so badly to believe that it is not a phone number but it was decrypted with the spaces and the plus sign and the person on the other end is behaving quite strangely
Well, it's a phone number even if it's also something else
standard UK formatting
i think 775 is the area code, but it's just not formatted like that
Nope. +44 is the country code (UK). Replace with 07 to get the standard number. No area codes for mobiles
There's no area codes for mobiles
i was about to question how these various phone formats work together but then i remembered that country codes exist
those must define which format is being used
probably
that's correct
i'm so intelligent โผ๏ธ
there was an account found on some platform by using the phone number, right
by syncing contacts
it was on discord i think
hm?
i thought i recalled someone saying that
that they added the phone number to their contacts and synced their contacts to discord and found a discord account what used that phone number
probably, though i thought i remembered it working eventually
though, now that i think about it, it would be weird to use a phone number to direct us to another method of communication
that would be like using a human-readable string to decrypt something else
even though that is sometimes common
but it's the closest analogy what i have
I mean, that'd be on brand
The whole ARG is doing unnessesary extra steps
the next next time QR code is a good small example
have you done args before
Not really, just read a bit after the fact.
I'm just saying that i wouldn't be surprised if we had to do something a little out there; we can't say that stuff would be an unreasonable step just because it's unusual
If we're being completely realistic about things, the puppet master is probably still trying to piece things together. Supposedly, they have seen the interpretation that "next time" referred to the next stream, hence dropping the "next next time" clue to: (i) give us content to work with, and (ii) tell us to wait longer.
Given the timing of the two clues, i.e. not alot of time, it can be surmised that "next next time" is a response to our interpretations of "next time", just like how "next time" is a response to our progress in the ARG.
Hence, "next next time" has a high likelihood to just be "whenever I'm ready", and not really pointing to any stream in particular
^ for those of us that are still sane. For the rest of us, maybe we take the 3rd second of every song and put them together, cLuE 
Next time will be after dev stream where vedal is confirmed back
Well, everything takes time.
my guess is when vedal returns as well
What just happened while I was sleeping?

Nothing.
Oh ok
I think tutle forgot about it
me when its over
Sounds like a yes to me
At least I got a Cold War bunker 
The explosion seems to be coming from the ground...
R.I.P At least I got a private jet
At least I got a vedalist Bible
surely it will help 
for as long as i live the arg shall not die
inb4 killsquad sent after me
At least I got my towel.

nightmares again 
at this point I think we are so schzio we need a fnaf neuro game 
im sure someone will make one for the game jam
we don't need a jumpscare game we need a psychological horro gsme 
the final boss zip bombs the host computer
inscryption style you need to choose the drive that will get zip bombed when you loose
Can't wait for the gamejam where we become a team of 50+ people to vent our frustrations into a single game to have vedal suffer
@covert dock has leveled up! (6 โ 7)
I mean NeuroARG already sounds like a great indie team name 
NeuroARG Simulator: Counting All These Days
And at the end of the credits it says "next time" then starts over.
Then everytime you beat the game again it adds another 'next' 
oh oh oh and at the beginning you say "if you die / lose your progress gets reset" and then the "next time" is a 'death' screen 
Ooh good idea
every death adds another NEXT in the death screen
idk why but I 100% will be happy if he suffers from that game

Our SCHIZO-ness is converting to anger... 
but it would be actually cool if we or someone made arg-game, like OneShot works but with more elements of arg thingy
all the suffering of our SCHIZO group in the form of a game

and it will be without an ending 
100%!
100%?
100%!
75%?
25% of brain cells left after schizo
If there are any left, it means we aren't looking hard enough 
truely
Yeah we should analyze this more deeply for clues. We need to count the exact number of gray pixels in the videos so we can use that number and text it to the phone number and maybe weโll get a clue
Yes
And x that with the number
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067638175478071307/1108396725305102406/SETMEFREEEEEEE.gif reading this was a mistake
Damn you God
ye I'm relatively new here
surely all the things we discuss here are relevant and not schizo
bro I came here to be schizo
ah in that case, welcome, we've got plenty to go around
:catjam:
Have you read the docs?
unfortunately
Schizo time
my timezone surely works for that i won't be asleep 
Think about it this way: the less you sleep the more schizo you will be
Me too
I love living in Thailand 
To be fair I would probably ruined my schedule to watch evil it a Saturday anyway
surely saturady a day off for everyone 
This is why we maintain a priority list instead:
1 . Neuro
1 . Evil
1 . ARG
4 . Work omegalul
999 . actually survive the next day help i'm cold and hungry and scared
How many times do i need to say it >:(
surely a clue 

hmm 
Wow I can't believe you decided to do that smh
SURELY A CLUE.

Also funnily enough, one of my subjects for the current semester is on shit like decryption and encyption.
Surely I wonโt have something to do in Saturday
Oh, probably after sleep, I missed something here, now we will read 
Actually I take it back, past experience has shown that when someone is asleep, we get a new clue, go schizo, and solve everything. This has definitely got nothing to do with the fact that timezones exist and is definitely a correlation 
what if I'll take the medication and the arg disappears
real talk tho, stay hydrated!
Adding On Another 6 Nights
Just checking in for the daily dose of
and 
Surely you mean daily dose of
and 

Every day I watch what people I love are doing, and for this I sometimes write something.


somebody made a lyrics video for "i think i saw a ghost", its a clue 
Yo schizo gang any clues found yet? or still at the phone number 
This might not be a clue but I see pb playing FL studio evil said the schizo songs were made with FL studio ๐ 
Schizo in an hour?
i think we need another poll
1๏ธโฃ no qr code
2๏ธโฃ same qr code
3๏ธโฃ new qr code
theory: This time I can't find a pattern where it would make sense for next next time to be this time, so by that logic it's safe to say that today will actually be the day since I've been pretty consistently wrong 
hi guys I just woke up at 1 am
you'd be running polls for 3 years, are you ready for this great responsibility 
Maybe make it so the stakes involve 5neuros
Right on time for the stream that will finally have a new QR!
guys a theory:
neuro fumo comes for the first time
arg starts
what if it when it arrives to the first person the arg stops?
same qr code btw
actually
Pay your dues
it looks a bit different
Bad news... its the same

it's neurover..
surely we won't be waiting more than a few months 
number 2 wins again 
J-just a crumb?
next time
The pot is 60neuros split to 10 people, that's 6neuros to those who voted 2. Free 1neuro!
nothing today either 
only grief 
no way bro real???

okay
y-yeah..j-just give it a bit! There will surely be SOMETHING right :)
can any one sent the new qr in chat
i believe theres not gonna be qr code
wait it didn't show up yet
it was false hope 
here you go some copium
the corruption on PSV has been documented, but havent you noticed it looks like something?
gonna go to #livestream-chat now bye
Guys
i feel like we talked about this before 
wait is it weird or the entire music has changed?
it does not sound the same
you can edit youtube videos iirc
gonna look into it after the steam
i just was on the channel for psv so you cant trick me 

Old joke is old
It never is not funny
If the videos do change, we'd see updates to the date modified property in the atom feed, in which case I shuld be notified unless I configured something wrong
so this is weird
false hope
can you manually check? i dont wanna be schizo
It'd be funny if it wasn't so predictable
Date modified all look normal (June is the latest)
One day study II will be up and someone posts a link and no one believes it and the ARG never gets solved 
Nah, we'll check so long as it isn't keks making the joke for the seventh time lel
okay
guys tell me im not going schizo at 1:50 and 2:09
i dont see that documented
it was talked about iirc
I streamed Study on loop at work the whole of yesterday, didn't notice anything weird that we haven't already talked about
Hey hey it was my first time, wait another few
streams
dark means psv not study
^^
Oh. Well, all 4 videos were streamed 
either im going schizo and its not documentated because people thought it was useless or its actually something new
To me, sounds exactly the same
23?? Text that to the number
23 CLUE 
Collab could be a clue aswell?!
so true every sentence evil skips is actually a clue

I'm so confused I don't hear anything I don't see anything what's happening in that clip 
At 0:24-0.27 you can hear a scream in the distance
I think its only a tts bug tho
But one hell of a creepy one
Although there haven't been any changes yet, I think I agree with this.
Let's think about it, all the plain lyrics that are sung or displayed have been corrupted in some form throughout all videos. Either the order of instructions aren't entirely continuous, some parts of code being snipped off, etc.
The only blocks of continuous, untouched information are the plaintext we obtain from ciphers. This is probably the only way to circumvent corruption.
If we follow this assumption, we can conclude that anything we get from ciphers are unadulterated, unfiltered information. Everything else either has double meaning, or we have to read in between the lines.
In other words, everything in plain sight is a lie 

evil's victims screaming for help
I finally caught up. It has to be the few days that I was gone for the chat to explode again.
It's ok, you've missed 0๏ธโฃ things, at least for now 
We are quickly approaching the 572943 messages milestone
we'll get a clue
god I sure hope we don't get any clues whilst I'm on holiday like at the start of the arg, truly painful
bred casually raising flags
I wish
man it'll totally suck to get clues in today's stream
||surely this will work||
wait
when did this qr code appear first
9/7
on a sunday
and the cave stream is tomorrow
aka sunday
๐
inb4 new clue leads us to some cave we'll have to visit irl

"3 tourists get stuck in a cave, experts say they only have oxygen for 5 hours"
surely if they die we can sue vedal for more clues 
Who needs that 3 at the end 





