#Neuro ARG

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timid swift
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if you can find it maybe

rare glacier
safe monolith
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this is done twice right

anyway looks irrelevant since all we're doing is initiating

balmy crag
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bro why are they sending another CT during ANSam

safe monolith
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oh yo, the whole thing is the calling tone

rare glacier
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uhm uhh i uhh uhm please send me a simpe doc explaining this, or smth to get be started, please?

balmy crag
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oooh

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that makes a lot more sense

safe monolith
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it's bursts of ON/OFFs, then OFF for a duration, then bursts again

balmy crag
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kk makes sense

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the supposed modem in tutel's basenment: ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ Tutel

brittle musk
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LMAO

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what CT recording do we need

balmy crag
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this

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that's CT

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it's specced on pg 6 of ITU-T V.25

timid swift
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So this is the plan of action, correct?

  1. Generate a Call Tone: 0.6s sin wave at 1300 Hz, then 1.75s silence, repeat a few times
  2. Play back the Call Tone from a smartphone/skype after calling the phone number. Play during the silent period at the start before the answering machine takes over.
balmy crag
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yea

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if the answering machine responds with a 2100 Hz answer tone we go apeshit

placid rock
brittle musk
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shesh i cant send images

timid swift
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gotta chat more to get embed perms

brittle musk
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i just need to be even more schizo

balmy crag
rare glacier
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anyone realised this is a pong screen? its not in the docs, from what i can tell

balmy crag
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^ that's ANSam

crimson tendonBOT
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You have unlocked new role

brittle musk
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yea that's why i thought about just copying CT, cuz there is a lot of these already on wiki

rare glacier
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You have unlocked new role

rare glacier
# placid rock pong?

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timid swift
ruby lance
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pongchamp

rare glacier
balmy crag
brittle musk
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so we're thinking it v.8?

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or v something else

balmy crag
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it could be v.8

ruby lance
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also xendy the virgool looks like arabic to me but im just some rando who used to play geoguessr

balmy crag
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it's a common startup protocol

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there's nothing saying it can or can't be

rare glacier
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iwonder if vedal has coded an ai for pong NeuroClueless

brittle musk
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Modems not starting with the V.8 call initiation tone often use this tone.

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ok so there is a lot of chances that it'll work

timid swift
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what is "this"? The Call Tone from before?

balmy crag
balmy crag
timid swift
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Well, it's an avenue we haven't properly explored yet

safe monolith
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can't find the v.25 calling tone

balmy crag
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yeah i think we'll need to generate it

safe monolith
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i tried making it on audacity based on what i believe is right, but it seems weird

timid swift
safe monolith
ruby lance
# rare glacier oh ok

nvm i google translated it (turned out to be persian language) and it translates to 404 page not found neurOMEGALUL

balmy crag
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interesting

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would be great if we had a recording of a V.25 field implementation

dapper otter
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What is happening rn

rare glacier
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im pong theory-ing

brittle musk
dapper otter
brittle musk
balmy crag
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do you think you can do a loopback pipe of that audio file into a google voice call or something and try it out

timid swift
placid rock
rare glacier
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so how far are we with the dial up idea? are we in motion or still theorising?

balmy crag
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trying to send the V.25 call tone since it should be broadly compatible with V.8 implementing devices

rare glacier
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me watching this whilst listening to fanchen's rush e: oh cool also why is this song stuck in my head

safe monolith
brittle musk
balmy crag
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anyway i got to start commuting to work in a few mins

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cya later

brittle musk
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cya neuroHeart

safe monolith
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I need to do work I've put off for 2 hours neurOMEGALUL

timid swift
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same

brittle musk
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am i only one who's free rn

timid swift
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I'll have a go at making and playing the tone back over skype when I get home

brittle musk
dapper wraith
brittle musk
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doing god's work

rare glacier
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looks like windows 7 lol

brittle musk
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doesn't it the same on 10

rare glacier
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thats what imsaying

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win 10 needed new icons lol

brittle musk
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they just lazu to change everything

ruby lance
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xp was a whole different window so it aint xp

rare glacier
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yeah

brittle musk
ruby lance
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gives you a virus, refuses to elaborate

dapper wraith
rough mesa
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oh you need a dial up phone?

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i still have one

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its functional

rare glacier
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ruby lance
timid swift
dapper wraith
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mine doesn't seem to work

timid swift
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What were you doing anyway?

dapper wraith
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trying to dailup to the phone number

timid swift
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Right, but like emulated or do you have an actual dial up modem and landline?

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Oh, right. Memory. You did say you had access to a modem. I didn't think that it meant you could also set it up to run lmao.

ruby lance
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and live in the UK tho?

timid swift
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It's just a phoneline at that point. Can call internationally, but yes you gotta be able to call the UK

dapper wraith
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I'm testing with the GSM modem but I'm not sure I'm even doing the correct thing neurOMEGALUL

dapper wraith
timid swift
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Well, you're not doing the wrong thing by trying things

rare glacier
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buy stamps and an envelop, and mail it to someone who lives in the uk then NeuroClueless

timid swift
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I know that this has happened during bigger ARGs. Shipping of hardware

rare glacier
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wow

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can't imagine that dedication lol

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i've totally not got 4 things to do and won'tdo them cause of the arg

balmy crag
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vedal watching the arg go careening into the wrong direction: staytuteled

rare glacier
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next time will always be
another day
look better
and you find a way

look better. dum idea: qr code is binary, not qr code

balmy crag
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going to try to get an audio loop setup for Google voice

timid swift
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It's not the wrong direction if it's possible

rare glacier
brittle musk
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wait what

timid swift
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source?

rare glacier
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i was looking around

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i doubt its real

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maybe its a twitter type acc?

brittle musk
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same but weird

rare glacier
timid swift
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so where'd you get it from?

rare glacier
brittle musk
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but like at the same time, who tf would fake it through scratch

timid swift
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ah, i see

rare glacier
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i was looking on random sites, decided to start with scratch

dapper wraith
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ok. my modem is definitely not able to get a response from the number when trying to perform dailup

rare glacier
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i imagine its a twitter-like account, to keep fakers

timid swift
ruby lance
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prob a trololo but might be fun to try decoding the base64 anyways

rare glacier
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anyways ill document it

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just in case

timid swift
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sad

dapper wraith
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but like I said it's a GSM/LTE modem, no idea it would even be compatible with plain old landline modems

timid swift
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Right, but even so it's ruling GSM/LTE out

balmy crag
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can i get the model of your modem?

brittle musk
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yep, it's worth a try

balmy crag
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just want to look into how it works, which protocols it supports

ruby lance
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bootleg scratch troll part 1

dapper wraith
ruby lance
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welp that wasnt hard

brittle musk
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cringe trolling

crimson tendonBOT
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@brittle musk has leveled up! (3 โžœ 4)

brittle musk
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LESGO

rare glacier
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all documentedhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1UJdlxvCFa0ZOmMSZxSfDMPgSMP0JfXMqo1CNEGmTJtw/edit?pli=1

brittle musk
rare glacier
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im gonna go play some gd

rough mesa
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how can we confirm if this is real

brittle musk
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nah, it probably isn't but still fun to go schizo mode

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and actually

rough mesa
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not much to solve tbh

timid swift
brittle musk
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if it was real, there'll be an avatar from youtube just like soundcloud

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i suppose

rough mesa
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meh

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there wasnt much to decode

rough mesa
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is it telling us theres another channel?

safe burrow
brittle musk
ruby lance
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in ZULU??

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colour me surprised

balmy crag
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would i need access to be able to create a document in the ARG folder?

brittle musk
balmy crag
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looking to document the chronicles of talking to the number

timid swift
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No, everyone can edit

brittle musk
balmy crag
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LMAO

timid swift
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you just gotta be logged in. Make an alt if you're about to dox yourself

timid swift
brittle musk
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doxxing yourself is fun

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bruh even if scratch thingy is real idk if there is still something to decode with "first last five - xyz abc 543"

rough mesa
brittle musk
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ig it means xc5?

rough mesa
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xc5?

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first last five

brittle musk
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yea like first is X in xyz and five just five

rough mesa
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makes sense

timid swift
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I wrote a short bit about it. But i think you'll be better able to fill out the details

brittle musk
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idk if there is something to do with that

balmy crag
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ok i'll do it there

brittle musk
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still i will sms it neurOMEGALUL

balmy crag
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(i wrote like the top half)

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ty @timid swift

timid swift
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like the 5/6th top half nearly it damn all~ :p

balmy crag
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This refers to analogue sites, which support voice, fax and data transmission via landlines by adhering to specific protocols established by the ITU-T. Any incoming call is not identifiable with respect to these properties in advance of going "off hook" by the terminal equipment.

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so yeah it's def possible that the answering machine is behind some sort of discriminator

timid swift
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in other words, there are/were real world use of voice call lines that could be taken in a whole different direction - it's not just something we're making up

balmy crag
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yeah

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this is actually full SCHIZO though lmao

timid swift
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I think it's a pretty reasonable approach, honestly. I would've gone here much earlier, but I had assumed that the answerer always had to initiate the conversation

safe monolith
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the more things we try, the more we narrow down the possibilities

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although knowing us it's like expanding into unknown territory, the more we know the more we don't NeuroClueless

ruby lance
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wait does this bring the fax meme back into the equation too?

balmy crag
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fax does indeed speak ITU-T recommendations

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i'd need to look into which ones

safe monolith
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@dapper wraith epic ping, but what happens if you dial your own phone number?

ruby lance
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ima cringe so hard if that turns out to be it after joking about it from the start

timid swift
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Why tho x2

balmy crag
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this one is much worse

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but presumably you can just use a normal fax machine

ruby lance
# timid swift Why tho x2

because I literally made an account on a UK fax service site for the meme then backed out after seeing I'd need a monthly subscription to be able to receive as well as send...

safe monolith
# timid swift Why tho x2

tryna think if the answering modem could just be entirely software. so we have a voice line, then on top of that, modem sounds

cosmic grail
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Oh how much it hurts to see you go...despair

safe monolith
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but given how this whole thing works, probably nothing of note will happen

balmy crag
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facts

safe monolith
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Can fax be fully virtualized?

timid swift
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At least it's a good lead even if wrong and not completely schizo.

rough mesa
safe monolith
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Right, dunno if it has been mentioned before, but typically we can tell the difference between phone numbers and landlines based on the phone number prefix. If we're making conjectures based on how much effort was put into the ARG, I doubt fax is connected to a mobile number

Sketchy site that may tell us about what the phone number may be: https://kenstechtips.com/index.php/uk-telephone-numbering-cost-from-mobile

timid swift
safe monolith
timid swift
unique mason
safe monolith
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kinda weird for arg creator to just self-insert "damn making songs sucks"

dire orchid
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generating sounds like what AI does

cosmic grail
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Just a normal account afaik

dapper wraith
timid swift
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inb4 we have to send a Call Tone, but in the pattern of the eye flitter

river mantle
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what about soundcloud/447537130663

timid swift
dapper wraith
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I can send DTMF codes via the modem but since I only have them for data communication there's no audio codec connected

cosmic grail
safe monolith
timid swift
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where do they exist? And do they run in WSL

dapper wraith
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I don't follow. what do you want to probe?

safe monolith
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mainly to figure out if we get a modem-like response at any point

hollow flare
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hello

dapper wraith
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didn't someone say earlier that they still have a landline modem lying around? maybe they could try to connect

hollow flare
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I have been gone for a while

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what happened ๐Ÿ’€

cosmic grail
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Why can't we just use some VoIP modem-dialing software to play the connection sound?NeuroClueless

safe monolith
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does that exist NeuroClueless

cosmic grail
hollow flare
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perhaps

dapper wraith
timid swift
cosmic grail
timid swift
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So unless you can beat me to it and gain all the glory :p

safe monolith
ruby lance
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so looking at the fax spec it seems like it should be fairly similar to dail-up at least in terms of testing for a call-and-response:
send 1100Hz for 500ms, wait for a 2100Hz response

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basically the same thing you'd do for the dail-up but with 1100Hz instead of 1300Hz

safe monolith
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oh, the specs looks really similar. there should definitely be some example fax tones online, let me see if I can recreate

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strange, I can't replicate the iconic sound with audacity's tone generator at 1100Hz

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oH

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nevermind i'm dumb, I just realized the reference I'm using only plays the 2100Hz response because the caller is on a phone ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

timid swift
ruby lance
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theres a bunch of examples starting with the CNG -> CED <- pattern which is basically the same thing as CT and the other one from dailup (idk why they gotta rename these things)

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more detail

unique mason
safe monolith
unique mason
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my ears

cosmic grail
unique mason
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are u guys going schizo over the phone number?

ruby lance
safe monolith
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as a sanity check, here's what you should hear as a response

do not listen with full blast headphones neurOMEGALUL

cosmic grail
safe monolith
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yeah it should be a square wave right?

ruby lance
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idk i dont want to be a telecommunications engineer

unique mason
unique mason
ruby lance
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2100Hz sine wave sounded more like the dial-up from my youth than 2100Hz square

cosmic grail
safe monolith
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yeah definitely, but square makes more sense for electronics related stuff

unique mason
ruby lance
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you failed the alphabet, back to kindergarten with ye (edit: 1984)

dapper wraith
cosmic grail
unique mason
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or is that useless since i literally only speak in english neurOMEGALUL

ruby lance
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its ok the alphabet is a psyop anyway, who says the letters gotta be in that order huh

unique mason
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tbh ive been making a ton of spelling mistakes recently- idk y...

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must be the canvas clicking catdespair

safe monolith
balmy crag
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square waves are sometimes more difficult for analog systems to understand

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because of the super complicated composite sine waveforms

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i'd have to look into it

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but i would think that most of the waveforms are sinusoidal?

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espcially since the spec talks about am modulating certain signals

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that's really difficult to do w/ square waves

safe monolith
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hmm yeah you're right

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since i have time lemme remake the sound files

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/ANSam Tones have phase reversals at intervals, couldn't be me

ruby lance
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doing the lord's work

balmy crag
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so they are distinct but all fairly commonly used

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nice that we finally looked into it though lol

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might want to document that

wraith goblet
dapper wraith
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I did some more research and it seems like it was possible to connect a GSM modem directly to a landline modem by using the circuit switched domain. However both networks I have access to dropped support for this in 2020 and 2023. Now only packet switching is supported.

dapper wraith
timid swift
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absolutely. Everything else is an approximation

balmy crag
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itd be great if you could tap the line to make your your modem isn't just negotiating with the voicemail lol

timid swift
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seems like skype doesn't want my money. It just hangs on the payment screen. Can't add credits to call lmao. So I guess I can't call unless we find another way. No google voice in my country. sigh Guess I won't be the one to do this then.

timid swift
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Evil stream tomorrow confirmed!

rough mesa
timid swift
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Double evil NeuroPoggers

rough mesa
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and double dev

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we've been blessed

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maybe new opening screen ๐Ÿ‘€

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cave stream

distant rune
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More... QR codes.....

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MORE QR CODES.

dapper wraith
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next next next time NeuroPoggers

dapper wraith
timid swift
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Do I even dare to ask how you played soundfiles at a landline?

dapper wraith
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well it's a VoIP landline. I registered my PC as a telephone at my modem and then used a virtual audio device to reroute my audio output as a mic to the telephone.

timid swift
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Got it

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that wasn't as scary as i'd feared

balmy crag
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me when the postulating out of thin air materializes nothing aintnoway

timid swift
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It was a reasonable approach

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We still haven't tried the CI thing, right?

balmy crag
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yeah nobody's generated CI yet

timid swift
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What about CT?

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I can't remember if we generated that now

balmy crag
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CT just stands for call tone

timid swift
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yes, you're right. I just couldn't read for a moment

balmy crag
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oh wait it's /ANSam

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wtf

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oh well it doesnt really make a different

timid swift
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this is the part where i nod and smile like I pretend I know that those are not the same yet it does not make a difference

dapper wraith
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pretty sure it's not useful for anything (especially when considering how international calls work) but the call seems to negotiate 64kbps G.711 A-law for the transmission codec

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btw I just got super baited by the virtual audio device program I've been using despair I played the ANSam sound a listened to the recording of the call and there was some new voice saying something but turns out the program just says "Trail" on the virtual device after 30 minutes neurOMEGALUL

balmy crag
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me when trial sortware catdespair

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what does it mean

balmy crag
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572943 trial~
572943 trial~

dapper wraith
timid swift
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this is a trial, yes

balmy crag
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i love how you're playing the expected response tone lmao

timid swift
dapper wraith
dapper wraith
balmy crag
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if you're using windows though i've had good experiences with VB-audio cable

dapper wraith
balmy crag
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yeah ok

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oh well

finite perch
balmy crag
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๐ŸŽต nweroJam ANSam.wav nweroJam ๐ŸŽต

brittle musk
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so it doesn

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t

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work yeah

balmy crag
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certainly doesnt look like it

timid swift
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Query to the people who can call the phone number:
What happens if you press the 2 symbol buttons (usually placed at either side of zero)? Pressing star is supposed to open up a login sequence in some systems so you can listen to your voicemails

brittle musk
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hm

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i think i pressed star in some calls

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and holded it in one probably

timid swift
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Hmm, you don't sound too sure?

dapper wraith
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not sure my phone supports any holding. the sound it plays back definitely has a fixed length.

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and I just tested both * and # don't do anything

crimson tendonBOT
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You have unlocked new role

brittle musk
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same same

timid swift
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You have unlocked new role

balmy crag
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You have unlocked new role

brittle musk
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it was like a week ago already

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LESHGOOOO i can send pics now

timid swift
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skulb just did

brittle musk
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i can't believe that we really just need to wait for something

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sadge

unique mason
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ya know-

Seeing as how we got the announcement for the evil karaoke quite randomly(even if it was the reason the swarm made the biggest comeback on the canvas) i think tutel has definitely cooked something up for the arg

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the timing is just too wierd imo

balmy crag
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smh we can't just assume that vedal is a telecom genius and keep using more esoteric telecom tools

brittle musk
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what is a cave stream

distant rune
timid swift
unique mason
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but still

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i think he cooked smth up for tmr

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before the canvas

balmy crag
distant rune
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Hm, I doubt it's the karaoke stream but the two dev stream...

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I honestly think it could be the dev streams.

dapper wraith
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one thing we haven't tried at all is if the DTMF codes have to be entered together with the phone number so they get send immediately after the number is dialed but I don't know what we would send annytfHmm

distant rune
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There's 2 of them.

balmy crag
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see the DTMF is sent right after the unhook signal

unique mason
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tru tru

dapper wraith
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inb4 every song in the evil karaoke has one line in the lyrics changed just like the "Bring me back to life" cover NeuroClueless

balmy crag
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so it's part of the dialling process i think?

distant rune
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I'm not sure jf Vedal will jse the Numi collab stream to advance fhe ARG.

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But I do have a feeling this week is the time for you lads to shine.

rough mesa
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yes

timid swift
rough mesa
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i think last stream didnt have a qr code because vedal was travelling and couldnt change it

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either we get 2/1 qr codes or we're fucked

timid swift
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at least we found a way to entertain usselves today

brittle musk
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true

balmy crag
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๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ green_wire SCHIZO green_wire โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ

placid rock
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inb4 we just get "next next time" for the third time

timid swift
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I'll sue

hollow flare
unique mason
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||ik its add and not draw||

hollow flare
south sierra
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Bro Vedal must be trolling with these Evil Neuro stream intro QR codes lmao

honest harness
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Vedal's on vacation, I'm sure we would have had the next part by now if he wasn't off

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I won't expect anything other than "Next time" at least until vedal is back

rough mesa
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vedal is back tho

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he arrived today i think

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if he didnt hes probably arriving tomorrow

safe burrow
honest harness
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he's only back when devstream is on

sick wraith
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I sure wonder what's new.

safe monolith
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Maybe we got too schizo to identify clues NeuroClueless

elder oar
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schizo been we've lately very

potent nymph
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just become more schizo NeuroClueless

rose quartz
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This ARG be finna crazy

potent nymph
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the arg exists NeuroClueless

river mantle
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ARG is REAL!!!

ruby lance
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inb4 first song of the karaoke stream be like call all you want cause there's no one home and you're not gonna reach my telephone

tame hearth
distant rune
potent nymph
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2.5 billion debt

safe monolith
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Insignificant numbers as far as our eccentric billionaire is concerned

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Maybe 572943 is the bank PIN NeuroClueless

potent nymph
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zillionaire

honest harness
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How else do you think anyone could afford a vacation in this day and age NeuroClueless

potent nymph
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he owns 11 vacation places

brittle musk
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surely if we'll solve the arg, we'll get vedal's credit card number and cvv

potent nymph
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Zillions of dollars

mint plover
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I see this channel is back to normal NeuroClueless

brittle musk
timid swift
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Is the normal quiet brooding or absolute schizo?

brittle musk
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absolute quiet schizo brooding

quartz flume
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they're all mine NeuroCHAD

rare glacier
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Nothing more schizo than getting your piano to play Numbers II on it's own. And, I've done it. I won't share it cause you guys are gonna use light analysis or hire a geoguesser pro to dox me, so you just have to take my word for it ๐Ÿ˜„ (Ubuntu and APlayMidi for the win(APlayMidi can play Mid files?))

potent nymph
#

im already coming to your house

distant rune
#

Tracking Xendy's house through his keyboard

potent nymph
#

19.420.62.120

timid swift
#

127.0.0.1 NeuroClueless

rare glacier
potent nymph
#

i be there in 3 days travel time

distant rune
safe monolith
#

Surely this is the calm before the storm

rare glacier
safe monolith
#

We're gonna get 3 months worth of clues NeuroClueless

rare glacier
#

Or Study II

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or what about Letters I

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yeah im going, until the storm

potent nymph
brittle musk
#

can't wait for QRcodes III

dapper wraith
#

can't wait for the 21st of October despair

timid swift
#

You mean May 15th

potent nymph
#

Jan 12th

safe burrow
timid swift
#

Cabbage sitting near censor-neuro? Clue!

potent nymph
#

Cabbage apart of arg confirmed

turbid ember
#

i hope we got clue this time i always get nightmares eveytime i open the docdespair

calm veldt
#

You guys are going actually insane LULE

distant girder
#

skipping shizo and going straight to the rubber room i guess

timid swift
#

A rubber room with rats. Shadowy figures scurrying in the peripheral of my vision, their squeaks and scratches playing a maddening orchestra. Their tiny, beady eyes reflecting my own insanity. Their constant presence, their relentless squeaking, it pushed me further, it made me crazy. Those rats made me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once.

dark lake
#

They put me in a room.

safe burrow
#

It seems I missed something..
neuroStunned

sonic field
#

I love following this board. I open discord every once in a while and see that there's new messages.
"Oh, did someone find something useful?"
"No, just more schizo Sadeg "

safe burrow
distant girder
#

but here we are with a evil karaoke stream today, it will have us on edge until we see its the same old qr code again

safe burrow
timid swift
#

today is technically the next next time after that message first appeared

native maple
#

rats SCHIZO

mint plover
#

Double Evil and double dev stream this week, surely we get some new material for the ARG NeuroClueless

rough mesa
#

monday's stream is planned and this week's stream is a catch up dev stream

placid rock
sterile steeple
#

God I hope today is the "next next time"

rough mesa
#

there are 3 options:

  • no qr code
  • same qr code
  • new qr code
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place your bets

uneven moth
#

4: 2 QR codes nihmunCopium

rough mesa
#

counts as new ig

distant girder
#

there is an old one that loops a couple of time before the new one appears just to shizo us out even more rooVV

uneven moth
#

I wish for the suffering to end

mint plover
#

How about two QR codes? NeuroClueless

rough mesa
#

three.

safe monolith
#

Maybe the QR code window won't even appear neuroScream

distant girder
#

its just a window that says "why are you guys blind?" rooDerp

safe monolith
#

Arg disabled due to too many requests

rough mesa
placid rock
timid swift
#

it's time

placid rock
safe monolith
#

Surely not despair time

placid rock
#

was that the same one?

timid swift
#

no way

rough mesa
#

yeah apparently same qr code

distant girder
#

seems to be the same one?

timid swift
#

it looks the same annytfDespair

rough mesa
#

what a suprise

sterile steeple
#

oh no

placid rock
#

yeah same

safe monolith
languid swan
rough mesa
#

go compare it

river mantle
#

old one

sterile steeple
placid rock
#

Tutel that's next time Tutel that's actually next time

native maple
#

option 2 win !

cosmic grail
sonic field
#

This is just despair at this point

sterile steeple
#

Yep it's the same, fuck

dapper wraith
#

new clue will be hidden in the song lyrics NeuroClueless

sterile steeple
#

Veduhl why

sonic field
#

V-dull

sterile steeple
steel bronze
#

oh vedal GIVE US A SIGN

river mantle
mint plover
#

Clue is in the intro song frequencies if you put it through a spectrogram NeuroClueless

wraith marten
#

surely counting the syllables of all the song names would be the hint

native maple
rough mesa
sterile steeple
#

The decimal numbers are also the same as always

#

Same order, nothing changed

sonic field
#

1 million views now NeuroPoggers

rough mesa
#

reverse the decimals.

safe monolith
#

Maybe streams now have an ED screen

eternal timber
sonic field
#

I'm excited because study 1 was nice to listen to:)

native maple
#

just need to test SMS during stream or wait for a special song to play maybe

eternal timber
#

Yeah study 1 was a banger

sterile steeple
#

Well didn't the last video drop on _neurosama during a collab, maybe we'll get another one on friday???

rough mesa
#

"All i want for christmas is another video!'

safe monolith
#

Arg entity is just an avid neuro fan who can't watch stream

sterile steeple
#

Download the whole stream, embed it, tokenize it, shove it down the throat of gpt4 and send the resulting tokens to the SMS

native maple
#

nah convert it into Binary store it as Bson and send it to the phone provider of the number

mint plover
#

We are early with the weird sounds again

placid rock
#

record evil's weird noises and play them on the phone NeuroClueless

native maple
#

SCHIZO surely the constellations in the background will mean something

safe monolith
#

someone check it against the stars outside

native maple
#

it'll give us a longitude and latitude to send to the phone number

safe monolith
#

inb4 spells out a qr code

sonic field
crimson tendonBOT
#

You have unlocked new role

sterile steeple
#

You have unlocked new role

timid swift
#

You have unlocked new role

native maple
#

SCHIZO it makes sense the phone number is just waiting for coordinate not just "save me..." we need to tell it where to go to save

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You have unlocked new role

sonic field
#

i have unlocked new role?

safe monolith
#

Send our own coordinates because lord knows we need help

timid swift
sonic field
timid swift
#

well, except you could before

safe monolith
#

Ok there is still a chance one of the songs will mean something copium

timid swift
#

Yes

native maple
#

hmm surely while singing evil will "loose self control" again

timid swift
#

didn't she before she even started singing? lel

native maple
#

SCHIZO time to check all song if any lyrics changes

dapper wraith
#

ok. I have to give up already. can't read these neurOMEGALUL

timid swift
#

actual skill issue NeuroClueless

unique mason
#

nothing today either?

rough mesa
#

there was something

sonic field
#

same QR despair

rough mesa
#

a key to get even more crazier

timid swift
#

yes, there was a QR code. It was the same

unique mason
#

he cant keep getting away with this

sterile steeple
#

"Next next next next time"

#

Well we have another evil stream on friday...

wraith goblet
#

Yeah I looked into that modem card and sadly ATM i have no way of getting a dial connection working. I poked a buddy of mine who ran a Dail up trunk line for some help, but he shut it down a few weeks back

placid rock
#

instead of "And no one even knew it was really only you" she sang "And no one really knew it was really only you"

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clue NeuroClueless

safe monolith
#

some of these lyric edits really seem to be designed for us to go schizo neurOMEGALUL

sonic field
#

its vedal just saying "really?"

safe burrow
mint plover
brittle musk
safe monolith
#

not twin clue copium

safe burrow
tawdry narwhal
#

surely

dapper wraith
#

we need to sms our twitch oauth token to the number annytfPogu

wraith goblet
#

welp seems you schizos got fed

#

over dail up

timid swift
#

I swear that sounded backwards

safe monolith
#

"Thnks fr the Mmrs" is missing aoeoie surely that is a key

steep arrow
#

That's the legit song title

wraith goblet
#

2007 TXT speach be like

#

god i feel old now

mint plover
#

Thanks for the memers is the real name of the song ๐Ÿ™‚

sonic field
#

t9 texting despair

safe monolith
#

has vanilla neuro ever acknowledged evil as her twin?

#

welp, surely we'll get it next time NeuroClueless

safe burrow
timid swift
#

maybe it means next chill stream since we only had 1 chillstream since then

safe burrow
#

Everything has its time.
cirno_shrug

timid swift
#

apparently going schizo has its time all the time

safe burrow
#

Well, probably.

tame hearth
safe burrow
#

Cleaning cirno_shrug

spice island
#

NEXT TIME GUYS SCHIZO

safe burrow
azure oyster
#

visiting here again after a while

#

checked the time log

#

has nothing really happened since i last visited

#

nothing important to the ARG, that is

#

maybe "next time" does not refer to a stream, i'unno

#

when was this prediction made

#

i am determining whether it should be crossed out

timid swift
#

should be crossed out. It was very early, before the first osu stream after "next time"

azure oyster
#

what 'bout this

#

the ending suggests it should be

timid swift
#

seems like someone already commented on it ye

azure oyster
#

only one theory remains

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we must wait three years for another youtube upload

#

unless anyone has any other theories

potent nymph
#

idea we kidnap the tutle and use cia "interrogation" on him for 3 months for new arg info sip

azure oyster
#

i wonder whether he just hasn't thought of more of the story yet

#

or

#

maybe he's taking his time and thinking out the entire story right now instead of making it up as he goes like he probably has been doing thus far

timid swift
#

I think that section isn't updated with the "next next time" ideas

azure oyster
#

Oh.

timid swift
#

I was really hoping it'd be this stream, but copiuming out that it's gonna be the next chill stream, since that'd be the next next chill stream since the OG next next time appeared

potent nymph
#

surely evil give us clues NeuroClueless

azure oyster
#

maybe it will be the numi collab

#

after all, did we not get a lore nugget after the miyu collab, if i recall correctly

timid swift
#

i'm not gonna say that it can't be, but I will say that it doesn't neatly fit any pattern

#

next next evil stream was today

azure oyster
#

in what stream was the next next time qr code shown

timid swift
#

of any streams?

azure oyster
#

what kind of stream, i mean

#

was it a chill stream

timid swift
#

ah, yes.

azure oyster
#

was the "next time" code also a chill stream

timid swift
#

yep, and next next time was the next evil neuro stream

azure oyster
#

i thought you were saying it would be the next chill stream

#

why are you using past tense

#

as if the stream already happened

timid swift
#

let me spell it out, it's al ittle confusing lmao

azure oyster
#

it sure is

#

oh boy you weren't kidding with how long you're taking

timid swift
#

There was a QR code that just said "next time". It appeared on an evil chill stream. Then at the next evil stream, which was also a chill stream, we got another QR code that after a few hoops docoded to "next next time". Since that we've had a 1 evil stream which was a chill stream, and then today's evil karaoke stream. So I'm saying that my copium is that it's gonna be the from current time next evil chill stream, since we've already had one, and today which is the next next evil stream of any kind wasn't anything

azure oyster
#

did vedal just forget about the arg or something

timid swift
#

doubt

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and that's assuming tutel is the puppetmaster. It's a fair assumption but not guaranteed

azure oyster
#

maybe we have to wait another month so he can drop yet another banger telling us what the fuck to do with the phone number

timid swift
azure oyster
#

well at least that means you aren't just giving up and waiting for the next hint

#

i doubt he would make another if we just gave up and waited

timid swift
#

Yee, i'd love if we could try out more stuff, but I can't even think of anything to try. There's so few things to solve now

azure oyster
#

hmm

#

i wonder something

#

you remember what dhmis did with the number on the booth at the end of dhmis 5, i think it was

timid swift
#

is dhmis Don't hug me i'm scared?

azure oyster
#

i somehow doubt it will yield anything but maybe we should try just looking up the phone number on youtube

#

yes

timid swift
#

i've only seen the first one and it was ages ago i can't remember it

azure oyster
#

okay well i don't actually need to explain much

#

there was a phone booth at the end of dhmis 5 and it had a long number on it

#

looking up the number on youtube yielded a video

timid swift
#

Right, the phone number could be intended as a key for something else

#

The main problem in ARG land is that there needs to be a way to verify that it's not an outsider shoehorning their stuff in. Anyone's got plenty time to put that phone number on their websites now

azure oyster
#

yeah these are definitely relevant results aubrey_neutral

timid swift
#

are they really relevant tho? Looks to me like youtube just throwing the best bad match at you

steep arrow
#

+44 is the country code don't forget. So 077537130663 is also valid

azure oyster
#

That was sarcasm, Bread.

timid swift
#

Sarcasm doesn't really work on text :p

azure oyster
#

i want so badly to believe that it is not a phone number but it was decrypted with the spaces and the plus sign and the person on the other end is behaving quite strangely

timid swift
#

Well, it's a phone number even if it's also something else

azure oyster
#

though i need to ask

#

why are the spaces like that

timid swift
#

standard UK formatting

azure oyster
#

oh

#

i see

#

so... do they not have area codes then

#

huh

timid swift
#

i think 775 is the area code, but it's just not formatted like that

steep arrow
#

Nope. +44 is the country code (UK). Replace with 07 to get the standard number. No area codes for mobiles

#

There's no area codes for mobiles

azure oyster
#

i was about to question how these various phone formats work together but then i remembered that country codes exist

#

those must define which format is being used

#

probably

timid swift
#

that's correct

azure oyster
#

vdl i'm so intelligent โ€ผ๏ธ

#

there was an account found on some platform by using the phone number, right

#

by syncing contacts

#

it was on discord i think

timid swift
#

hm?

azure oyster
#

i thought i recalled someone saying that

#

that they added the phone number to their contacts and synced their contacts to discord and found a discord account what used that phone number

timid swift
azure oyster
#

probably, though i thought i remembered it working eventually

#

though, now that i think about it, it would be weird to use a phone number to direct us to another method of communication

#

that would be like using a human-readable string to decrypt something else

#

even though that is sometimes common

#

but it's the closest analogy what i have

timid swift
#

I mean, that'd be on brand

azure oyster
#

has vedal done that at any point thus far

#

or things like that

timid swift
#

The whole ARG is doing unnessesary extra steps

#

the next next time QR code is a good small example

azure oyster
#

have you done args before

timid swift
#

Not really, just read a bit after the fact.

#

I'm just saying that i wouldn't be surprised if we had to do something a little out there; we can't say that stuff would be an unreasonable step just because it's unusual

safe monolith
#

If we're being completely realistic about things, the puppet master is probably still trying to piece things together. Supposedly, they have seen the interpretation that "next time" referred to the next stream, hence dropping the "next next time" clue to: (i) give us content to work with, and (ii) tell us to wait longer.

Given the timing of the two clues, i.e. not alot of time, it can be surmised that "next next time" is a response to our interpretations of "next time", just like how "next time" is a response to our progress in the ARG.

Hence, "next next time" has a high likelihood to just be "whenever I'm ready", and not really pointing to any stream in particular

#

^ for those of us that are still sane. For the rest of us, maybe we take the 3rd second of every song and put them together, cLuE NeuroClueless

honest harness
#

Next time will be after dev stream where vedal is confirmed back

safe burrow
#

Well, everything takes time.evilShrug

spice island
#

my guess is when vedal returns as well

dapper otter
#

What just happened while I was sleeping?

potent nymph
distant rune
dapper otter
potent nymph
#

The arg is real NeuroClueless tutle did not forgot about it NeuroClueless

dapper otter
dapper otter
#

Yea nah the arg is dead

#

Hopefully for nowNeuroClueless NeuroClueless NeuroClueless

potent nymph
dapper otter
#

Want to do other arg because one arg isnโ€™t enough

dapper otter
#

Sounds like a yes to meNeuroClueless

potent nymph
#

19.230.259.549

dapper otter
distant rune
#

The explosion seems to be coming from the ground...

dapper otter
#

R.I.P At least I got a private jetNeuroClueless

dapper otter
potent nymph
#

surely it will help NeuroClueless

safe monolith
wraith goblet
#

At least I got my towel.

safe burrow
hollow flare
#

at this point I think we are so schzio we need a fnaf neuro game NeuroClueless

native maple
#

im sure someone will make one for the game jam

distant girder
#

we don't need a jumpscare game we need a psychological horro gsme nod

safe monolith
#

the final boss zip bombs the host computer

native maple
#

KEKW inscryption style you need to choose the drive that will get zip bombed when you loose

covert dock
#

Can't wait for the gamejam where we become a team of 50+ people to vent our frustrations into a single game to have vedal suffer

crimson tendonBOT
#

@covert dock has leveled up! (6 โžœ 7)

covert dock
#

I mean NeuroARG already sounds like a great indie team name NeuroClueless

timid swift
#

NeuroARG Simulator: Counting All These Days

covert dock
#

And at the end of the credits it says "next time" then starts over.

#

Then everytime you beat the game again it adds another 'next' despair

distant girder
#

oh oh oh and at the beginning you say "if you die / lose your progress gets reset" and then the "next time" is a 'death' screen rooVV

covert dock
#

Ooh good idea

brittle musk
#

every death adds another NEXT in the death screen

#

idk why but I 100% will be happy if he suffers from that game

covert dock
#

Our SCHIZO-ness is converting to anger... neuroScream

brittle musk
#

but it would be actually cool if we or someone made arg-game, like OneShot works but with more elements of arg thingy

#

all the suffering of our SCHIZO group in the form of a game

#

and it will be without an ending neuroScream

covert dock
#

100%!

hardy burrow
#

100%?

brittle musk
#

100%!

distant girder
#

75%?

brittle musk
#

25% of brain cells left after schizo

safe monolith
#

If there are any left, it means we aren't looking hard enough NeuroClueless

potent nymph
#

truely

calm parrot
#

NeuroClueless Yeah we should analyze this more deeply for clues. We need to count the exact number of gray pixels in the videos so we can use that number and text it to the phone number and maybe weโ€™ll get a clue

rain scarab
#

And x that with the number

potent nymph
#

simply talk more to unlock gifs and cool stuff

barren lion
#

ye I'm relatively new here

safe monolith
#

vedalD surely all the things we discuss here are relevant and not schizo

barren lion
#

bro I came here to be schizo

potent nymph
safe monolith
#

ah in that case, welcome, we've got plenty to go around

barren lion
#

:catjam:

safe monolith
#

Have you read the docs?

barren lion
#

unfortunately

dapper otter
#

Schizo time

potent nymph
#

my timezone surely works for that i won't be asleep NeuroClueless

safe monolith
#

Think about it this way: the less you sleep the more schizo you will be

barren lion
#

Fuck it, this weekend Imma try to decode a bunch of shit

#

see if I can be useful

dapper otter
#

I love living in Thailand NeuroClueless

#

To be fair I would probably ruined my schedule to watch evil it a Saturday anyway

potent nymph
#

surely saturady a day off for everyone NeuroClueless

safe monolith
#

This is why we maintain a priority list instead:

1 . Neuro
1 . Evil
1 . ARG
4 . Work omegalul
999 . actually survive the next day help i'm cold and hungry and scared

timber whale
#

How many times do i need to say it >:(

distant rune
#

Have we ever checked out Shiro's status.

#

Sus.

potent nymph
#

surely a clue NeuroClueless

distant rune
distant rune
#

Markooo... Your status is...

potent nymph
#

hmm Clueless

distant rune
#

Not available anymore

potent nymph
#

what are you on about NeuroClueless

#

but no its just base64

distant rune
#

Wow I can't believe you decided to do that smh

#

SURELY A CLUE.

#

Also funnily enough, one of my subjects for the current semester is on shit like decryption and encyption.

dapper otter
safe burrow
#

Oh, probably after sleep, I missed something here, now we will read neuroStunned

safe monolith
#

Actually I take it back, past experience has shown that when someone is asleep, we get a new clue, go schizo, and solve everything. This has definitely got nothing to do with the fact that timezones exist and is definitely a correlation NeuroClueless

potent nymph
#

surely not

#

timezone don't exist its a lie made up by the schizo government

safe burrow
#

And here the time zones, I do not understand ..

brittle musk
potent nymph
#

Clueless surely you won't

#

you like it here

brittle musk
safe burrow
#

-14 167,807692307 Briefly about my life

hollow flare
mint plover
#

Just checking in for the daily dose of despair and NeuroPossessed

safe monolith
#

Surely you mean daily dose of neuro5head and vdl

safe burrow
#

Every day I watch what people I love are doing, and for this I sometimes write something.

mint plover
unique mason
#

me when i hear the shortened form of arguments in programming despair

distant girder
#

somebody made a lyrics video for "i think i saw a ghost", its a clue annytfPogu

crystal urchin
#

Yo schizo gang any clues found yet? or still at the phone number despair

crystal urchin
#

This might not be a clue but I see pb playing FL studio evil said the schizo songs were made with FL studio ๐Ÿ‘€ NeuroClueless

timid swift
#

Schizo in an hour?

placid rock
#

i think we need another poll

#

1๏ธโƒฃ no qr code
2๏ธโƒฃ same qr code
3๏ธโƒฃ new qr code

timid swift
#

theory: This time I can't find a pattern where it would make sense for next next time to be this time, so by that logic it's safe to say that today will actually be the day since I've been pretty consistently wrong NeuroClueless

dapper otter
#

hi guys I just woke up at 1 amneuroWave

safe monolith
#

Maybe make it so the stakes involve 5neuros

covert dock
digital radish
#

guys a theory:
neuro fumo comes for the first time
arg starts
what if it when it arrives to the first person the arg stops?

#

same qr code btw

#

actually

mint plover
#

5neuros Pay your dues

digital radish
#

it looks a bit different

sterile steeple
#

Bad news... its the same

placid rock
covert dock
#

it's neurover..

placid rock
distant girder
#

number 2 wins again nod

covert dock
#

J-just a crumb?

honest harness
#

despair next time

safe monolith
#

The pot is 60neuros split to 10 people, that's 6neuros to those who voted 2. Free 1neuro!

unique mason
#

nothing today either despair

covert dock
#

only grief despair

dapper otter
distant girder
digital radish
#

okay

covert dock
dapper otter
#

can any one sent the new qr in chat

digital radish
#

i believe theres not gonna be qr code

dapper otter
#

wait it didn't show up yet

covert dock
dapper otter
covert dock
#

HUUUUUUUUUUUUFFFFFFF

digital radish
#

the corruption on PSV has been documented, but havent you noticed it looks like something?

eternal timber
digital radish
#

its making an "arc" of corruption

#

affecting certain parts

dapper otter
sterile steeple
distant girder
digital radish
#

wait is it weird or the entire music has changed?

#

it does not sound the same

#

you can edit youtube videos iirc

dapper otter
#

real

digital radish
#

there are undocumented noises

#

what the fuck

dapper otter
#

gonna look into it after the steam

distant girder
sterile steeple
timid swift
sterile steeple
#

It never is not funny

digital radish
#

yeah theres literally undocumented noises

#

and i know people document everything

safe monolith
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If the videos do change, we'd see updates to the date modified property in the atom feed, in which case I shuld be notified unless I configured something wrong

digital radish
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so this is weird

dapper otter
digital radish
timid swift
safe monolith
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Date modified all look normal (June is the latest)

mint plover
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One day study II will be up and someone posts a link and no one believes it and the ARG never gets solved despair

timid swift
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Nah, we'll check so long as it isn't keks making the joke for the seventh time lel

digital radish
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okay

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guys tell me im not going schizo at 1:50 and 2:09

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i dont see that documented

distant girder
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it was talked about iirc

safe monolith
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I streamed Study on loop at work the whole of yesterday, didn't notice anything weird that we haven't already talked about

sterile steeple
distant girder
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dark means psv not study

digital radish
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^^

safe monolith
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Oh. Well, all 4 videos were streamed neurOMEGALUL

digital radish
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either im going schizo and its not documentated because people thought it was useless or its actually something new

safe monolith
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To me, sounds exactly the same

brittle musk
sterile steeple
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23?? Text that to the number

mint plover
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23 CLUE NeuroClueless

sterile steeple
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Collab could be a clue aswell?!

copper acorn
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so true every sentence evil skips is actually a clue

eternal timber
daring acorn
sterile steeple
quartz flume
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I'm so confused I don't hear anything I don't see anything what's happening in that clip annySCHIZO

uncut cargo
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At 0:24-0.27 you can hear a scream in the distance

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I think its only a tts bug tho

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But one hell of a creepy one

safe monolith
# digital radish its making an "arc" of corruption

Although there haven't been any changes yet, I think I agree with this.

Let's think about it, all the plain lyrics that are sung or displayed have been corrupted in some form throughout all videos. Either the order of instructions aren't entirely continuous, some parts of code being snipped off, etc.

The only blocks of continuous, untouched information are the plaintext we obtain from ciphers. This is probably the only way to circumvent corruption.

If we follow this assumption, we can conclude that anything we get from ciphers are unadulterated, unfiltered information. Everything else either has double meaning, or we have to read in between the lines.

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In other words, everything in plain sight is a lie NeuroClueless

wind crypt
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evil's victims screaming for help

normal ice
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I finally caught up. It has to be the few days that I was gone for the chat to explode again.

safe monolith
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It's ok, you've missed 0๏ธโƒฃ things, at least for now NeuroClueless

elder oar
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We are quickly approaching the 572943 messages milestone

digital radish
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we'll get a clue

hollow garnet
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god I sure hope we don't get any clues whilst I'm on holiday like at the start of the arg, truly painful

safe monolith
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bred casually raising flags

hollow garnet
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I wish

safe monolith
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man it'll totally suck to get clues in today's stream NeuroClueless ||surely this will work||

digital radish
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wait

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when did this qr code appear first

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9/7

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on a sunday

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and the cave stream is tomorrow

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aka sunday

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๐Ÿ‘€

safe monolith
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inb4 new clue leads us to some cave we'll have to visit irl

potent nymph
digital radish
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"3 tourists get stuck in a cave, experts say they only have oxygen for 5 hours"

potent nymph
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surely if they die we can sue vedal for more clues Clueless

timid swift