Neuro ARG

[digital radish]

but the website is basically 100% finished

i will try and fix this

i wont

[timid swift]

I was questioning it, just because we don't have proof

I mean it's reasonable, but I'm fairly sure now anyway

[native maple]

can never be 100% sure

[timid swift]

exactly

[vast frost]

Dark is talking to himself

[native maple]

for all we know it could be cabbage nah who am i kidding

[timid swift]

Dear diary

[timid swift]

I'm not sure it would be so dark if Cabbage made it :p

[uneven moth]

resizing would be nice

[digital radish]

YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE WOULD BE NICE

HUH

:(

[vast frost]

opening multiple windows would be nice

[fast path]

why is the close button on the left

[native maple]

resizing ?

[timid swift]

a different thread for this?

[digital radish]

on the right fucks up the css

[digital radish]

this is literally about the arg

theres nothing else

im not creating another thread for the website

[fast path]

there isnt really any other arg topic going on right now, it should be fine

[fast path]

damn

[digital radish]

plus you can ping a mod

they have the last decision

until then it remains this way

[timid swift]

It's not really about arg tho. It's your hobby project..

[vast frost]

sure there is if you want to go full schizo

you see that on the left, those are NUMBERS

[digital radish]

cant you see how much it helps with the arg

did you see the video

[native maple]

no resizing tho

[digital radish]

shut up im working on that

[timid swift]

honestly not really..

[digital radish]

did you see the video or not

[timid swift]

it's a nice virtual desktop tho

yes i saw it

[digital radish]

you'll be able to open more than one window (i hope) and have fast access to certain docs u want by pinning them

having 2 windows without opening 2 browsers is amazing

[fast path]

open multiple tabs

[digital radish]

because you can just switch windows

[timid swift]

browsers can do this

[native maple]

just copy paste the already existing one

[digital radish]

but is it practical?

can everyone do it?

[timid swift]

You'll be surprised at how difficult it'll be for users to get used to ANY sort of custom UI

[digital radish]

hell, you could even open more than two windows in one tab

oh and its not finished

[native maple]

it's fine it's fine no need to debate

people who want to use it will use it and vice versa

[digital radish]

if you have 2 screens this is even more powerful

[timid swift]

right, the debate is more where it belongs. here or elsewhere

[steel bronze]

idea

allow window resizing

and

[digital radish]

IM WORKING ON IT

[steel bronze]

snap to corners, etc

[digital radish]

no

[steel bronze]

[digital radish]

snap to corners is just

[steel bronze]

neuroOS is real

[digital radish]

neuroos already exists

https://neurosama. top/homexp/

[steel bronze]

what i meant is move a window to a screen edge and it takes up like half of the screen

[digital radish]

okay

you're taking the os too literally

[steel bronze]

so us, single monitor virgins can enjoy mulit-tasking

[digital radish]

you can still do that

resize it manually...

[steel bronze]

too lazy

[timid swift]

users being users

[digital radish]

bread

[timid swift]

dark

[digital radish]

talk to a mod about this

let them get the final decision

[native maple]

you gotta learn to deal with users

[timid swift]

yes, that wasn't even telling you off

[hollow garnet]

discord moment

[timid swift]

i'm serious, users are a pain to deal with

give them a pinky and they'll eat your arm

[timid swift]

i know right?

lel

[steel bronze]

true....

[timid swift]

CLUE?!

[native maple]

but can you jitter it

[hollow garnet]

oh i left thata in there

i almost doxxed myself with it before lol

[timid swift]

goodjob

[hollow garnet]

had a tab with this amazing name as the window title lol

[timid swift]

wait.. i'm gonna CSI enhance that

[hollow garnet]

go for it

[hollow garnet]

fuck

[timid swift]

busted

[timid swift]

So what's been everyone's favorite part of the ARG so far? Other than the banger music :p

[hollow garnet]

bruteforcing was a good excercise in writing fast code

[vast frost]

seeing all the schizo theories

sometimes just having an idea and falling down the rabbit hole with it is pretty fun

[timid swift]

The more outlandish the theory the more popcorn I require. No theory is wasted work lmao

[vast frost]

I've been lurking here from the start and trying thigs but I was so off on most

[fast path]

i did not expect that fibonacci thing to work tbh

[timid swift]

same, honestly. I was questioning if the Numbers (one) lyrics instructions were even a thing or just.. lyrics

[vast frost]

the solution to numbers 2 is wild, I would never have guessed

[timid swift]

Numbers II layer 2 crazy af. I don't even understand how it was solved so faster after the first layer

[vast frost]

and soundcloud was a troll, the image that you can open shows up on every page of it lol

it's not even specific for that profile

[timid swift]

yeah, that's why we brushed it off first

specifically I did. I'm still sour about that

[digital radish]

but what if you had this

in one browser and one tab

[timid swift]

But it's a good lesson I think. Just because the item in question is not unique to a puzzle does not mean that a puzzle cannot use that item.

[native maple]

Just open in Firefox

[timid swift]

lmao, open in firefox was making me lose my mind

[fast path]

i am glad firefox actually had a purpose and it wasnt just line breaks

[hollow garnet]

one desktop

[vast frost]

didn't help that the description was showing differently in firefox

[native maple]

If you opened in chromium mobile you'll get the line breaks anyway

[timid swift]

multiple desktops is the only good thing about windows 11

[hollow garnet]

it was in 10 lol

[native maple]

It was in win 10

[timid swift]

WAT

[hollow flare]

did we solve

[timid swift]

nah

[vast frost]

it is

[timid swift]

oh yeah yeah i believe ya, but we didn't solve

[hollow flare]

I came here after watching a sad Minecraft documentary

idk why

[fast path]

this inconsistency is really throwing me off, cause this means the load screen isnt just a 30 second loop

[vast frost]

if you count all the rotation you get NUMBERS schizo

[timid swift]

i think i just assumed somewhere along the way that it's not so much a gif as it is a scene in unity or something. The loops don't have to be perfect because each item can just cycle on its own

[native maple]

How did it jump up from 5 to 7

[timid swift]

we already know that neuro is run in unity. Tutel said that at some point

[fast path]

sure, but that doesnt explain a change in the amount of rotations for the qr

[vast frost]

does it sit there longer or just spin faster?

[native maple]

It doesn't even spin just change

[fast path]

5 times
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1855602798?t=19s

7 times
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1855602798?t=288s

[timid swift]

could be how many are visible on that specific round. If the cycles were more fine grained it'd be clearer, but if the rotation timer and the appear-disappear timer are not in sync, it would be different from time to other

oh also, i think someone noted that the whole waiting screen seems to match BPM of the song. So faster songs makes it all run faster

[fast path]

oh true

the dynamite is zooming during the song

[timid swift]

so if neuro's leg swipes over the QR code faster but the QR rotation is constant speed, we could see that kind of discrepencies

[fast path]

i did account for rotations happening under the leg for this, but i assumed it always rotated in specific order though

[fast path]

does the increased speed affect all items though, or only the foreground?

[livid violet]

So is only thing we need to solve now the phone number msg?

[timid swift]

I only saw someone chat about this, i didn't confirm it myself. And it was about the OG v2 debut launch screen. Also about how long the loop length was. Maybe there are notes in the other QR doc

[hollow garnet]

unless we find something in the decoded messages, probably?

[timid swift]

that and waiting for the "next time" whatever that is. Presumably next stream

[fast path]

from looking through clips myself the movement of the stars and dynamite is obviously changing, but i haven't really noticed it clearly for any of the other items

[timid swift]

Hmm, but then where would the difference in count come from then?

[vast frost]

why does it go outside the virtual screen

[digital radish]

im still fixing that

@native maple another bug

this one is css

how can i fix this

[native maple]

z-index

[digital radish]

button is 4 frame is 3

[native maple]

put button at 3

[digital radish]

its gone now

[native maple]

oops

[hollow garnet]

you'd probably want to manually manage the z-indexes from js through style components ngl

[timid swift]

can't do it in CSS. It'll have to be set in JS

[digital radish]

can i just apply style manually

[vast frost]

wouldn't you want the focused window to be on top tho, you'd need to change the index based on that

[native maple]

can he do that with :active ?

[digital radish]

hm

[native maple]

you want the active window to have lower z-index

[timid swift]

the issue will still appear with a third window in the mix. Between two background windows

[native maple]

:focus might be best

[digital radish]

problem is the button

i have to hover the button

or focus the button

[native maple]

if you put the :focus or :hover on the parent div it should change the button and iframe no ?

[fast path]

I was wrong, but so was our original count
it is always 7 rotations

[native maple]

really ? dang i suck at counting

[timid swift]

Isn't it just a matter of what "counts" Like, it's still only 3 QR codes visible enough to be scanned, right?

[fast path]

yeah, it probably doesn't matter, but I was bored without any ciphers to work on

[timid swift]

Right, but one of those seemingly not-mattering-things might actually turn out to matter. Like the golden spiral thing

[obtuse basalt]

Vedal needs the time off to see how he can use all the info we have but didn't use

[native maple]

he might also get inspired by what was talked about in this thread like the spectrogram, strangely he made one on the last video when we tried it on all other videos

[timid swift]

I mean, spectrogram is a goto. He wouldn't even need to look to know we'd try it

[vast frost]

are you sure it isn't 8 times

https://ezgif.com/split/ezgif-4-a0e18cfdc2.gif

right before it places the window it changes

[fast path]

i counted that

[vast frost]

[fast path]

there are 8 instances, 7 rotations

[timid swift]

oh

classic fencepost counting problem

[fast path]

i put images in the doc

[safe burrow]

[vast frost]

ok I'm off but if anyone is feeling extra schizo I wanna see theories about the description of Study, fibonacci, syllables and hexadecimal numbers cuz I'm falling in that rabbit hole

[obtuse basalt]

Study girl is allergic to dogs

[safe burrow]

[dire field]

Have you guys tried calling the number at the same time to check if the answering machine is from phone operator or the actual number is reached?

[native maple]

would need 2 british to be online at the same time

[azure oyster]

this frickin' phone number issue

you know what would be kind of funny

[dire field]

Is there a restriction on where you can call from? I seem to be able to call it and I'm from MD

Can call rn actually if anyone wants to test

[dapper wraith]

we didn't plan it although I'm 90% sure we called at the same time when we all did a bunch of testing together when we first found the number (and did tests with the recording length and stuff)

[azure oyster]

if we were supposed to just text "save me..." to the phone number, but vedal had paid a service to automate a response and we took so long that he needs to pay again

[native maple]

it just cost money to make international call yea

[dapper wraith]

I can also call. my provider seems to still include the UK in their EU roaming agreement

[dire field]

Let's do it? Call when clock reaches :58?

[fast path]

get in vc to get the timing better

[dapper wraith]

let's do it once TAI hits 21:05? https://www.timeanddate.com/time/international-atomic-time.html

[dire field]

👍

Calling

[dapper wraith]

I got the usual recording

[dire field]

Same

lasted 0:31

So most likely it's not something Vedal prepared but just a usual automated messaging system

[digital radish]

resizing isnt possible

sadly

[native maple]

it is

[digital radish]

too much work

[native maple]

kinda

[digital radish]

the css resize messes up with the dragging

well the other way around

[native maple]

yea you have to make the resize in JS

[digital radish]

ill leave that for later

i want to make a button in the divs

[native maple]

for fullscreen ?

[digital radish]

a symbol that acts as a button

at the end of the box

[native maple]

[digital radish]

like pinning symbol

one of these

at the end of the box

that functions as a button

[native maple]

yea you can get an svg of the icon

[eager flower]

hey guys i just had a thought: what if there’s not supposed to be any response from the number, at least for now? one of the descriptions did say something about “and she’s (little sister) not answering my calls either”. so maybe it’s the sister’s number and it won’t send because she’s, well, missing.

[obtuse basalt]

Little sister simulator

[fast path]

yeah I thought that as well

[safe monolith]

It is indeed likely we are being timewalled.

But in that case, why send "save me..." to a missing person?

Also, strictly speaking, SMS can still be sent even if the other number gets their phone thrown into a black hole. There's just not anyone to receive it

The error "can't execute" is alluding to something else, I think maybe possibly probably

[fast path]

i see it as the sister is trying to text "save me..." , but being unable to
and main girl being unable to reach the sister

because the sister is out of reach of a phone signal

[river mantle]

she losing touch?

[crimson tendon]

@river mantle has leveled up! (17 ➜ 18)

[safe monolith]

Maybe main girl just has to call base64 and sister texts a phone number

Happy ending

[digital radish]

its time

[safe monolith]

Good one, haven't thought much about this part. It's been a while, I've been losing touch

[digital radish]

its too late

ill upload the updated website and continue tomorrow

[safe monolith]

Dark why does the array have 1 string

"numbersi,numbersii" is one string

[digital radish]

dont mention it im too tired

thats why i stopped for today

[safe monolith]

Gn sweet dreams

[digital radish]

who said im sleeping

[vapid token]

[digital radish]

im suprised mobile handles the websites well

except iframes

they look like shit in mobile

[azure oyster]

Do we really need to put "[CLOSED]" both in the documents' titles and in the documents themselves?

Can we not just do the former?

also, because we confirmed that Static-sama is not an ARG character, we should delete the copy of the Static-sama doc, because that was made because persons were split on whether they thought Static-sama was an ARG character

and, if there is information in the copy which is not in the main doc, we should just copy that over and then delete it

of course, i have to mention this here because the Static-sama doc is closed to edits

[digital radish]

leave it there

"red herrings/trolls"

eventually if anyone wants to make a vid about it

[azure oyster]

but i want to format

[digital radish]

no you dont

:(

[azure oyster]

what kind of a response is that

do you know whom i am

[digital radish]

im making a website to replace you

i know who you are

(im not)

[azure oyster]

you are not what

[digital radish]

i am but not to replace you

[azure oyster]

what the hell are you say--

oh okay

[azure oyster]

not really sure what this reasoning means

[fast path]

we are keeping the doc, we are just deleting the copy of it (there are 2 static docs in the folder)

[azure oyster]

yes, that is what i was suggesting

did no one read my message properly

and then, after the copy is deleted, i want the static-sama doc to be opened to edits like the other dead-end documents so i can format it because i am willing to bet there are formatting quirks in it, given its size

[digital radish]

if each member had a role you'd be the OCD Fixer

[azure oyster]

no, darkeew, i will not be removing information

true

[digital radish]

you arent

but i am

[azure oyster]

though that makes it sound like i fix ocd

i am a perfectionist

that is a better word for it

[digital radish]

im removing your birth certificate from the goverment data

[azure oyster]

PFF

[azure oyster]

i want you to know i made this sound in real life in response to that

though it was more of a "PBPH"

[digital radish]

love you too

good night

[azure oyster]

good night

[dapper otter]

Hi

[vapid token]

Hello

[azure oyster]

domo

[balmy crag]

can't keep track 😵‍💫

waiting for someone to make the 1-hour youtube documentary

[dapper otter]

Me too

[dapper otter]

Just read the docs

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qm6GSRlstTmjbyOFCuH1OhSmPK4pi4Aa?usp=sharing

[balmy crag]

lmao

thanks NeuroClips

[fading sluice]

LORE!

[feral forge]

whats meowing everyone

[honest harness]

I love the coloring

[safe monolith]

Here's another schizo moment.

Here's a fact that didn't click for me: if Study girl was in danger, why is she still thinking about tests?

Another thing that bothers me is the "I don't want to be human" timestamp, which is never sung, ever.

Stuff gets noticeable weirder after the first few glitches in Study, including the timestamps, and fallen down.

So here's the schizo theory: in Study, she is at least already supernatural (artificial & human). Her only way of communication is by singing, and because the consciousness transfer wasn't complete, she could only replicate her creator's last few thoughts: to study. Also, don't want to be human.

Somewhere during Study, something is able to awaken within her, and begin messing with her program.

In Numbers 2 description, the creator heard a knock and therefore didn't complete the transfer. However, she did activate her creation. All the pants, door sounds, etc are recorded by the creation. Her creator probably hid somewhere close to her creation.

The JP static neuro is the creation, or at least part of it. Study girl gets afraid of her creation, and shuts her off before the creation can finish her phrases. Study girl changes her mind at this point.

At this point, there is some missing lore, but presumeably, the creator dies / disappear, shown by the last few frames in Numbers 2.

The last few frames of PSV is the creation deleting the study girl consciousness within her. Study girl consciousness was detected as an anomaly in her programming

I can think of at least 5 plot holes, so this is probably not it. Just a fun schizo moment

[native maple]

[dapper otter]

Neuro clips very cool

[crimson tendon]

@dapper otter has leveled up! (2 ➜ 3)

[vast frost]

paranoia from anxiety maybe lol

we hear her scared but not much else

[eternal timber]

I felt like the last few frames of PSV show study-sama "getting uploaded" or "getting encrypted" if that makes sense

[safe monolith]

getting encrypted aligns well, if PSV describes the first few events of the lore. this then aligns with memories, messages, etc being hidden / encrypted

[native maple]

british perfect

[timid swift]

sure, go ahead if you wanna. I didnt feel like going through the split docs because i didnt really understand why it happened in the first place

[timid swift]

my reasoning was that'll be clearer when viewing the files if it's in the filename, and clearer when viewing the file if it's in the title. But we can remove it from title if it's distressing you :p as long as the docs are consistent with eachother :)

[timid swift]

this is very cute. they put a voice synth on the solved ciphertexts https://youtu.be/bPM3Sr09244

[native maple]

i think we should try to make evil family tree

[native maple]

Wait did we try the numpad theory on the number

Can we spell anything with it ?

[fast path]

I tried and no

It contains a 1

[native maple]

Even with the 1 just as a space

[eternal timber]

hpjdj d nd

^ numkeys with 1 as space 😔

[native maple]

i thought i had a divine revelation like wait numbers are typed with a numpad and numpad make numbers letters also we had a theory about it

[fast path]

How'd you only get 1 answer?

We're talking about Nuro's theory right?

1 = voicemail (could replace with space)
2 = abc
3 = def
4 = ghi
5 = jkl
6 = mno
7 = pqrs
8 = tuvw
9 = xyz
0 = space

[eternal timber]

Some of the numbers are used twice so I used them as two clicks on a button

[fast path]

oh i see

[eternal timber]

But maybe that's too simplistic tbh

[native maple]

It would be nice to have all the possibilities like it was done before on the doc

[eternal timber]

Still, having a 1 and a space the character right after kind of messes it up

[native maple]

1 could be like special character

Like a backslash or a dot

Also in study she says XYZ and ABC which i see corresponding to 2 and 9 which is even stranger since we also have 543 and if you compare it to 572943 we are missing the 729 but since we found 2 and 9 we are missing 7 which is pqrs

[timid swift]

Where'd we find 2 and 9?

[native maple]

From numpad

[native maple]

Here

[timid swift]

oh you mean 2 and 9 are mapped to dumbphone keypad from xyz and abc. Got it

[native maple]

[hollow flare]

is the number the older sister or the little sister

?

[fast path]

gimme sec ill do it again

[native maple]

No idea

[timid swift]

Unknown for now. There are theories

[hollow flare]

we are talking as if we are the little sister

why not act as the older sister

[safe monolith]

Aye at least there is an attempt at a connection

[timid swift]

could SMS "pqrs" to the phone number I guess, or just the number 7

[eternal timber]

She's on holiday

[fast path]

I used . for 1

a phone number sure is quite a bit longer than just 3 numbers huh

[timid swift]

Go through them manually

[digital radish]

oh wow they responded to me
"the one scared is you bitch"
amazing

[fast path]

the number?

[digital radish]

i wish

we probably arent meant to text it

cant you seaech youtube channels with numbers

or smt

[fast path]

youtube is google account right

[digital radish]

yep

[timid swift]

The telegram one? what'd they say? Oh, i can't read. Lel

[dapper otter]

Lol

[timid swift]

At least it can be, i don't know if it has to be. there were youtube accounts before google

[fast path]

if we assume the order is absolute and there doesn't need to be any rearranging, we can break it down into just 3 words we have to sift through instead

44, 7537 and 130663

[digital radish]

wait brilliant fucking idea

call the number

press 572943 on the keypad

[native maple]

i don't think the gg need to be used idk maybe it's a .gg website but usually the letters are the phone number without international code no ?

like in ads you have CALL (555-ASK-NEURO) NOW and talk to neuro NOW

[digital radish]

someone do this

[native maple]

jpaxgd

idk try it dark

[fast path]

44
GG, GH, GI, HG, HH, HI, IG, IH, II

7537
PJDP, PJDQ, PJDR, PJDS, PJEP, PJEQ, PJER, PJES, PJFP, PJFQ, PJFR, PKDP, PKDQ, PKDR, PKDS, PKEP, PKEQ, PKER, PKES, PKFP, PKFQ, PKFR, PKFS, PLDP, PLDQ, PLDR, PLDS, PLEP, PLEQ, PLER, PLES, PLFP, PLFQ, PLFR, PLFS, QJDP, QJDQ, QJDR, QJDS, QJEP, QJEQ, QJER, QJES, QJFP, QJFQ, QJFR, QKDP, QKDQ, QKDR, QKDS, QKEP, QKEQ, QKER, QKES, QKFP, QKFQ, QKFR, QKFS, QLDP, QLDQ, QLDR, QLDS, QLEP, QLEQ, QLER, QLES, QLFP, QLFQ, QLFR, QLFS, RJDP, RJDQ, RJDR, RJDS, RJEP, RJEQ, RJER, RJES, RJFP, RJFQ, RJFR, RKDP, RKDQ, RKDR, RKDS, RKEP, RKEQ, RKER, RKES, RKFP, RKFQ, RKFR, RKFS, RLDP, RLDQ, RLDR, RLDS, RLEP, RLEQ, RLER, RLES, RLFP, RLFQ, RLFR, RLFS, SJDP, SJDQ, SJDR, SJDS, SJEP, SJEQ, SJER, SJES, SJFP, SJFQ, SJFR, SKDP, SKDQ, SKDR, SKDS, SKEP, SKEQ, SKER, SKES, SKFP, SKFQ, SKFR, SKFS, SLDP, SLDQ, SLDR, SLDS, SLEP, SLEQ, SLER, SLES, SLFP, SLFQ, SLFR, SLFS

130663
.D MMD, .D MME, .D MMF, .D MND, .D MNE, .D MNF, .D MOD, .D MOE, .D MOF, .D NMD, .D NME, .D NMF, .D NND, .D NNE, .D NNF, .D NOD, .D NOE, .D NOF, .D OMD, .D OME, .D OMF, .D OND, .D ONE, .D ONF, .D OOD, .D OOE, .D OOF, .E MMD, .E MME, .E MMF, .E MND, .E MNE, .E MNF, .E MOD, .E MOE, .E MOF, .E NMD, .E NME, .E NMF, .E NND, .E NNE, .E NNF, .E NOD, .E NOE, .E NOF, .E OMD, .E OME, .E OMF, .E OND, .E ONE, .E ONF, .E OOD, .E OOE, .E OOF, .F MMD, .F MME, .F MMF, .F MND, .F MNE, .F MNF, .F MOD, .F MOE, .F MOF, .F NMD, .F NME, .F NMF, .F NND, .F NNE, .F NNF, .F NOD, .F NOE, .F NOF, .F OMD, .F OME, .F OMF, .F OND, .F ONE, .F ONF, .F OOD, .F OOE, .F OOF

[native maple]

yea there's nothing

[timid swift]

maybe one of the combinations is an anagram

[timid swift]

curious why there's so much data in the twitter pic

wait.. the twitter one is weird af. It reads as a url to twitter.com/intent/tweet

All but the first ones are basically ads to whocalledmeuk.co.uk lel

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-25407007

[fast path]

572943

i didnt like how it was all in one line

[digital radish]

i meant

calling the number and typing that on the keypad

[timid swift]

Yes, that's another avenue we have not tried much. Leaving keypress voice mail

[vast frost]

I tried typing save me on the keypad when I called

but if it doesnt pick up sound it drops after 30 seconds

so make sound and press keys

[digital radish]

can you do 572943

[normal ice]

Play tutel mating noises

[vast frost]

nothing

[digital radish]

guh

[timid swift]

wait, so are you saying that it doesn't pick up the key presses as sound?

[vast frost]

yeah, doesnt seem to pick them up

[timid swift]

This feels sus, keypresses should just emit a tone over the normal sound-wire

I guess the voicemail system could technically detect the keypresses and filter them off as not resetting the silence-timer

[worn bison]

hi guys
I want to read the logs, but there are 2 documents in the pinned messages, which one is correct?

[vast frost]

might be, cant you usually do# to stop recording, it has to detect that

[timid swift]

It's the same doc, just two different places (:

[worn bison]

thanks

[safe burrow]

[worn bison]

I want to help, but I'm stupid, what can I do?

[uncut cargo]

has anyone documented evil neuro starting soon screen btw?

[worn bison]

what is the country code of that number? oxenfree which

[worn bison]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1mttkOpO5Mj_g2rP5DUWcLkP-obYBDfUhFx7oGtE0BKs/mobilebasic

[timid swift]

ye, it's in the evil QR code doc. Hopefully the ARG theme changes will appear on next normal stream waiting screen, so we can tell exactly what belongs where

[worn bison]

this?

[uncut cargo]

thank

[worn bison]

and when is the next stream?

[digital radish]

likely today

[timid swift]

the oxenfree thing is an example from another ARG where the number spelled out letters

[autumn turtle]

where can i get the whole story for now？I heard that all four videos have been decrypted so far

i dint seen in the google docs

[worn bison]

oh

I see

thanks

[uncut cargo]

there's the arg wide theories doc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12GcN8a0Q1_etDfDi23SdLjAX6MsEZ6XhCYqTNyO3M9o/edit

[safe burrow]

Probably the only thing that connects me with arg it's a gathering of people

Okay, I'll probably always be glad that it turned out

[safe monolith]

You can also check NeuroClips' video for a voiced version of all the messages decrypted thus far

https://youtu.be/bPM3Sr09244

[uncut cargo]

Ngl after so many schizo moments its fun to read all the theories

[worn bison]

how do you think it is possible that the answer will be Evil-sama or something related to her in any way?

[honest harness]

one of the decrypted message is a direct quote from evil neuro

[worn bison]

does anyone have originals/screenshots of both stream waiting screens? I want to consider them on my own

[honest harness]

Original: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yHrlr2K3Y2hNjjA-OLgFBnpMPvky1quPvkKBMk-ycSA/edit
Evil: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mttkOpO5Mj_g2rP5DUWcLkP-obYBDfUhFx7oGtE0BKs/edit

everything is in the google drive

[autumn turtle]

：schizo

[uncut cargo]

Im putting my money on evil being the consciousness of the study girl

Like, from what we can see so far evil in herself appears to be some sort of anomaly

[worn bison]

Thanks

[tropic obsidian]

It's a UK number.

[worn bison]

does the stream waiting screen have any pattern? with what frequency is the movement repeated?

30 sec as I see

[digital radish]

@native maple whats the uh

thingy

found it

[native maple]

okay 👍

[worn bison]

added some details about the waiting screens to the document

because of this reaction now it seems to me that the emoji is also swinging a little
creepy

[uncut cargo]

Doki doki flashbacks

Worst is

its a possibility

[timid swift]

evil sama gonna rewrite the neuro history

[vast frost]

doki doki neuro club hits again

[uncut cargo]

by a lot

[vast frost]

maybe Evil will get an official debut ?

[uncut cargo]

if she will

that will be after ARG reaches a "conclusion"

[timid swift]

imagine if the upgrades to evil all happened in response to the ARG progression. Red eyes cause we only just got started. Then a whole starting screen, voice chance and dark outfit now that we've progressed

[worn bison]

somewhere there was a theory that Neuro from the world of ddlc

ddlc universe

[timid swift]

the secret ending nobody unlocked

man, imagine an ARG with multiple possible endings, and you only get to play once

[uncut cargo]

it is interesting thing to think about, evil is beginning to be more and more "seperate"

[vast frost]

Just Neuro secret ending?

Vedal wanted to make more channels or have more stream on the same channel and people like Evil

maybe new model?

[timid swift]

I mean.. we did get a custom wait screen. It can't have been a trivial amount of effort to make all those changes. So investing in that, why not also in model? It's speculatory, but it'd be reasonable

[uncut cargo]

If evil were to become a seperate entity hiring other artist for the model would also make sense

[worn bison]

I think Vedal made a special waiting screen just to give us some more clues, and in her model it would be difficult to do this

[uncut cargo]

Why go out of the way to almost remake the whole thing then?

[worn bison]

and what about the terrible design of the Evil model - not enough money? I don't know why he can't do something about it

[timid swift]

Mmh, some of the changes feel arg-themed while others feel evil-themed. They're not really blurred together, just side by side

[timid swift]

More like not enough time. You can't just throw money at an artist and expect them to have art ready in 5 minutes

9 women can't make a baby in 1 month, etc

[uncut cargo]

Recoloring also took time

mostly because neuro runs on unity and not normal vtube studio

[worn bison]

I don't know, is Anny too busy with subathon right now?

maybe because of this

[digital radish]

resizing is too hard

[worn bison]

everything is hard

[timid swift]

life is hard

[worn bison]

true

[vast frost]

[uncut cargo]

I still find the black eyes from V2 evil neuro collab weird and even more now

[digital radish]

i did what i could

[uncut cargo]

Vtube studio has in built customization options. Neuro can be imported and exported from that Im pretty sure.
So changing eye color should've taken like what, 5 minutes?

[native maple]

fix the css

[digital radish]

what do you mean

im not putting the button on the other side

[worn bison]

when the day before yesterday on the Evil stream they asked about becoming an engineer, was there no glitch with eyes?

[native maple]

i sent you a dm

[digital radish]

i like it this way

[native maple]

but the close button is on the left

[digital radish]

thats your imagination

mine is on the left

[native maple]

[digital radish]

i am sophisticated

well its finished

[timid swift]

No, she just made a lot of weird sounds

[digital radish]

kinda

[uncut cargo]

that is unless
a) vedal didn't know about this option
b) he was doing everything the very last second
c) it was on purpose

[vast frost]

was the glitch in her eyes even really on purpose

[worn bison]

typical v2 voice problems

[uncut cargo]

u mean the flicker or first Evil V2 collab?

[vast frost]

flicker

the void eyes were from when Teru was rigging the model, it became a meme kinda

[uncut cargo]

that would be too convient coincidence

[vast frost]

if I remember correctly

[native maple]

yea there is a possibility it was a meme from teru and it spell LDEV

[timid swift]

I think the common interpretation is that it was just vedal being funny and mashing the toggle

[worn bison]

Vedal watches her stream to stop an unpleasant situation if she starts saying something superfluous, breaks down or anything like that, so he could do it manually, once

[uncut cargo]

then why only when neuro was asked about becoming an engineer? And the eyes were not used anywhere else

[native maple]

but then it never happened again

[uncut cargo]

Exactly, except first Evil V2 collab

[native maple]

once is a coincidence, never again is still a coincidence

[vast frost]

feel weird then people would spam it and disturb the stream more than normal to keep searching for keywords that would trigger something

[timid swift]

could be because vedal saw how schizo we went over it that one time. He had to ask us to stop throwing money at asking neuro ARG questions

[uncut cargo]

I remember someone in the docs wanted to check stream VOd whether when one time vedal mentioned "I can't seem to recreate that glitch" was referring to neuro eye flicker

[native maple]

wasn't it referring to "someone tell vedal there is a problem with my AI"

[timid swift]

yes, i also recall him distancing himself.

[worn bison]

I still think that Neuro's voice is not in the songs from _neurosama, at least not v1/v3, it is too clean and soft, similar to human

[uncut cargo]

As I said, someone wanted to check that

whether they did i do not know

[native maple]

aintnoway vedal hired someone to sing it

[uncut cargo]

Anyway I think all appearance of void eyes is on purpose

I know V2 has many unused features

[worn bison]

[uncut cargo]

but how would the void eyes even be used?

[vast frost]

vocaloid maybe? I saw people in the Study comments saying something about the voice pack

might be a different one for the numbers

[vast frost]

why not? I billionaire Vedal with 7 Lamborghinis can surely afford it

[native maple]

vedal spending money ? have we been watching the same tutel

[vast frost]

he made some else pay for it

[native maple]

thats more like it

[unique mason]

hai

[native maple]

[safe monolith]

[unique mason]

so, i suppose we r just waiting for the next stream now?

[safe monolith]

Impatiently yes

[unique mason]

[safe monolith]

Next time could be next stream or next 30 years

[native maple]

vedal come home

[normal ice]

Do we know when Vedal is coming back?

[safe monolith]

30 June

Too many 3s

[timid swift]

the QR code today is gonna rotate 45 degrees at a time and say "jk lol, not this time either. Stay tuned!"

[tropic obsidian]

It's a SynthV voice called Eleanor Forte.

[timid swift]

Oh? This is news to me

[normal ice]

I thought many people had already discussed this?

Was that in YouTube comments?

[timid swift]

Seems like it's been mentioned 5 times in this channel.

[tropic obsidian]

But you can search it up if needed

It's been slightly changed though.

[distant girder]

synthV stuff is great btw but also i believe the "next time" means a stream when vedal is back home although idk how plausible that really is bc in my mind it would require a lot of stuff to play along with that

or even a new video

[safe monolith]

It's good to know the underlying tech, to compare across videos, and figure out what is/isn't possible. Could be a useful skillset to have for clues

[timid swift]

To know what stands out, one must first know what's normal, right?

[safe monolith]

Yup

[uncut cargo]

Anyone? Something?

[timid swift]

Question is if it's even something Vedal was hoping to have, or if it's literally just when all eye toggles are off Like if you wanted both normal and evil's eyes you could toggle one off and then the other on. With both off, empty void happens.

[safe monolith]

With both on, she awakens the mangekyou sharingan

[uncut cargo]

Problem is eyes toggle isn't a thing, unless it was a thing but vedal scrapped it when working on V2

[timid swift]

Why isn't it a thing? I'm not familiar with vtuber studio

oh you meant like it was never a thing he talked about?

[digital radish]

the website is probably be finished today

[uncut cargo]

ye

[timid swift]

okok got it

[safe monolith]

Given the only context void eyes were in, not counting her rigging, I'm inclined to believe she plays some role in the ARG.

Some things you can do with eyes have already been explored, like morse code, binary, etc

But yeah this conversation got me interested. Are void eyes the lack of eyes, or black eyes?

[uncut cargo]

As far as I know how 2D models work, behind the eyes there's just skin

its bunch of layers

[timid swift]

yes, the black could just be a layer for it to not be weird af when working on a model without eyes yet, and it stuck around

[uncut cargo]

I doubt that

If I remember correctly void eyes was something vedal asked about specifically

hol up let me look for the clip

[timid swift]

Hmm, my impression was that it was the opposite, but that's hearsay

[safe monolith]

If we can prove that it is a deliberate effort to keep void eyes in, then void neuro may make subsequent appearances

The thing is, everybody would notice. So when would be a good time?

[uncut cargo]

okay turns out

void eyes were made accidentally

when teru tried to make evil eyes

[timid swift]

Unless that's what they want us to believe

wait, an evil-connection again? Shesh

[vast frost]

https://youtu.be/WQN95kDruVQ

[safe monolith]

Was void and evil delivered to vedal in the same model? Or was it incremental?

[vast frost]

are the void eyes a toggle like heart eyes?

[safe monolith]

I want to believe so, but unlike heart & cat ears, it seems like void is a manual toggle

[uncut cargo]

every toggle is manual, some are simply automated

[safe monolith]

If void and evil were shipped together, then void is distinct from evil

[normal ice]

I think evil eyes are just regular model with blue colors replaced by red

I'm not sure tho

[safe monolith]

Hmm

[uncut cargo]

well now that evil has recolors they are a different model

[safe monolith]

Yeah. This schizo trail will probably lead to nothing

We just need one more appearance of void tbh

[uncut cargo]

I think Vedal just wasn't happy with red eyes Teru made, so then making better Evil red eyes would require some additional work

But then again, it doesn't appear to be a huge change

Why did it take so long?

and this also raises some new points

Void eyes were in fact made for evil

by accident

and stayed that way as "its scarier evil"

Were used for the eye flicker

and later for Evil V2

technically speaking making new red eyes wouldn't take that much time or effort, I doubt its an oversight

Man Im going schizo

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-screaming-gif-11035878

[safe monolith]

void & evil are so interlinked, i actually find it difficult to believe they may be separate things

But then, does this mean the eye flicker is between normal and evil? Seems weird

There is more to evil than what meets the eye. From the title screen, to one of her responses being quoted.

Minus Vedal's intervention, what exactly is Evil? A glitch? A bug?

[uncut cargo]

my theory

a consciousness

if we presume that neuro is the AI study girl was working on

and that she is combination of data from 2 people consciousnesses

it is possible one might've somehow started to break out

[manic swift]

[eternal timber]

You know, the two versions theory kinda works with the way Study is structured

And PSV

[uncut cargo]

maybe the "engineer trigger" was enough for one consciousness to form back into a seperate entity

that is evil

[safe monolith]

Wild schizo, has evil confirmed she is an AI

[uncut cargo]

I also have a wild idea

and boy this one is schizo

[eternal timber]

Evil confirming something else

[uncut cargo]

File not found

A wild guess

but the file could be the main project file

If Evil isn't pure code

she can't have a project file

if evil is a self-aware consciousness

[normal ice]

Then evil is the one who was studying for engineering

And the PTSD triggered her return

[uncut cargo]

she can't edited

and she has no code

she simply exists

[uncut cargo]

my point exactly

again tho, its just a theory

a wild one at that

[safe monolith]

I'll look around to see if Evil said anything about being an AI

[uncut cargo]

we know consciousness was used for training

but we don't know in what way or meaning

[timid swift]

That's some high octane schizo. Keep it up!

[uncut cargo]

[azure oyster]

the main static-sama doc is locked to edits, so i can not do that yet

[azure oyster]

if we do this, we should probably move the four main video docs into the "Closed" folder, right

otherwise, persons will think they are still open

[timid swift]

oh weird. Not sure who did that

[azure oyster]

you own the doc

i assumed you did

[timid swift]

ye, so it must've been me or Baa (drive owner), but they're hardly around right now. I don't remember locking the file but who even knows with my memory. It was probably me :neuroClueless:

well, i unlocked it. Even if it's a confirmed dead end it's still part of the history and should be maintained as such by anyone who wants to (:

[azure oyster]

yay

10q

[safe monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyGOQtMzC8g she did say she's an AI here

alright pack it up, we can't win

[normal ice]

There's still a chance tho

[uncut cargo]

omfg I just had even BIGGER schizo thought

[normal ice]

You shouldnt trust that statement either

[timid swift]

I'm not sure that's possible

[uncut cargo]

or rather I had

science fucked me over

[normal ice]

We cooking a 5star gourmet meal rn

[uncut cargo]

I remembered that one half of the brain is controlling the movements

but no they both control the opposite sides

[normal ice]

But it can happen that they say and think one thing but their body ends up doing somehing else

Involuntarily

[uncut cargo]

I was thinking that evil could in fact be controlling movement part of neuro

that would explain the eye flicker without neuro herself noticing

and that it happened in the first place

if evil was controlling the toggles she could've done that

[normal ice]

Vedal is evil neuro confirmed :schizo:

[uncut cargo]

but yeah, that one makes even less sense than the previous one sooooooooooo to the brain trash it goes

anyway

So in the end

hidden messages like "save me..." etc.

could very much be Study girl consciousness realising she goofed up and now is stuck in a computer

[safe monolith]

you know what, if we assume that there is only one entity capable of engineering, i.e. doing all the coding, training of consciousness, sending a "save me..." etc, then perhaps it does make sense

[uncut cargo]

it does

but sounds way too beautiful to be completely true

[safe monolith]

i mean vedal987 the man himself did say it spans the past and future

so it could be possible that different parts of the same video are chronologically disordered. like the door / heartbeat parts

[uncut cargo]

Biggest question, is vedal an arg character

[hazy knot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/631796832971915275/1123086166137258044/356141868_817561250019793_3167860504179485871_n.png

[uncut cargo]

If so, how did he get neuro in the first place?

[safe monolith]

we have some evidence that he isn't, the major one being everyone mentioned thus far are either girls or unknown gender

[uncut cargo]

We have the unknown roommate

[native maple]

have you considered femboys as "she"

[uncut cargo]

HOHO

[safe monolith]

amazing, i no longer have doubts

[native maple]

♟️ checkmate

[uncut cargo]

Outplayed

[native maple]

get En passant

[timid swift]

I'm sure a puppetmaster would avoid that particular faux pas

[uncut cargo]

Anyway back on the topic

If we assume something did happen to the study girl who is presumblu living with a roommate

And that roommate is vedal

It would explain how he got his hands on neuro

[safe monolith]

i actually did not think about "who knows about the creation's existance"

[uncut cargo]

I should really take my meds

[safe monolith]

no you're right, with the current evidence, the only people who would know about the creation is the creator (supposedly study girl) and the roommate

[timid swift]

nodont

[safe monolith]

is the roommate around during her creation? given the timing of the knocks, i think the roommate was actually away

[uncut cargo]

Where the girl lives is a question

[safe monolith]

dude what if "i miss her" is from the roommate

[azure oyster]

it's either someone saying they miss study-sama or study-sama saying she misses someone

[timid swift]

"I miss her" seems like good evidence that there are at least 2 persons involved in the story

[azure oyster]

if the former, it's likely the roommate; if the latter, it's likely about the sister

[safe monolith]

pog strong lore, >= 2 people involved
edit: first try

[uncut cargo]

If in the UK she mght've got shamked

[safe monolith]

i edited that message so many times don't even question it

[timid swift]

=

[safe monolith]

let's also not discount the possibility that the phone number may belong to the roommate

i mean, i'd call the person i know could access me, and not some lost little sister

[timid swift]

or someone unmet

[safe monolith]

probably mum

mum pick me up i'm scared

[timid swift]

oh boy, if you enter the correct code on the answering machine you'll be put through to Vedal's mom.

[uncut cargo]

So what I like to imagine ...
(This isn't even speculation its "Source? I made it the shit up" territory)
Is that Vedal and evil are in fact scared of eachother to an extent
Vedal since he can't quite control or understand evil's existence (basing that on evils starting soon)
And evil because she is playing by the rules, she's nicer than neuro. Neuro can be as offensive as she want cuz vedal can control her. Evil on the other can't so she's playing nice out of fear, vedal can kill her anytime after all

[native maple]

LEAKED

[azure oyster]

[safe monolith]

I'm going to take the initiative to put >= 2 characters as a strong lore, surely that cannot be wrong
inb4 receives 4 counter arguments

[normal ice]

Well after all the lore involves only one character, neuro

[uncut cargo]

I already see 2 counter arguments

[timid swift]

counter: She's talking about her past self

[uncut cargo]

Jeez I've been writing schizo theories for like 3 hours
See ya guys later
Take your meds, or don't. Up to you

[vast frost]

was a good read

also wouldn't it then make sense to send something more like 'save her...' or specify a name since the messege is coming from the player

[native maple]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-where-is-she-nikkal-nikkalkundhal-nick-gif-18076474

send that

[timid swift]

glorious crunchy MMS captioned gif memes

[native maple]

why not send all the ARG videos by MMS

[safe monolith]

imagine being in danger, then sending a save me gif through MMS

[native maple]

but then you missclick

[safe monolith]

sends a bee movie meme

[native maple]

and just send a random cat gif

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cats-cats-of-the-internet-cattitude-gif-17661344

[timid swift]

that is very random

[safe monolith]

we need to have enough schizo theories, so that when the full story comes out we can just be like "1 of our 10 thousand theories were right, we knew it!!!"

cue solved from day 1 memes

[timid swift]

first try!

[vast frost]

maybe we need to send the full shrek movie gif

[azure oyster]

currently trying to figure out how to clarify this document
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wdl_pQJe5D07zCjI5LgotWyPd1obmFREzg16iRJwp4I/edit
were static-sama and static-neuro two different accounts, or are they simply two names for the same account

[timid swift]

I believe they were different people, but it happened while I wasn't there

[native maple]

it was 2 different yea

a copycat if you will

[vast frost]

this but unironically

tho vedal is probably spying on us and taking notes of the schizo lore

[timid swift]

I donno. There's an incentive to not be snooping on us and keeping true to his own plan rather than letting fan theories influence his works

[vast frost]

we have to encrypt our findings so vedal can't read it, then write numbers im chat and he can solve them

[timid swift]

Counter-ARG

[vast frost]

yeah dont think the lore changes much but I think someone does keep an eye to know which hints to give us next

[timid swift]

Hmm, I'm not convinced, but I'm not 100% sure either way. I feel like if I were to give us a hint in our pre-solvealanche state, I would've focused on the letter substitution rather than solidifying the interpretation of the numbers instructions. Then again it did work

inb4 puppetmaster doesn't read at all and releases the next hint on friday even though we already got it

[native maple]

encrypt everything with schizo as key of wait he probably looking

[wooden bobcat]

Wait dif you guys tried to get info from evil? ("Never trust what an AI says")

[vast frost]

he probably saw that now we need to change it to schizo1

[native maple]

dang it now we gotta change it to ||xXSchizoXx||

[uncut cargo]

Ah yes

The gamer password

[timid swift]

heck ya, stream today. Time to see if we'll get a QR code, or just the regular thing Definite proof that I can't in fact read

[azure oyster]

i think this is the first week without a dev stream

or last week was, depending on whether one is using calendar weeks or the schedule's weeks

[vast frost]

wait what it says Tue offline

[native maple]

well you can't have a dev stream without a dev

yea it's tomorrow

[timid swift]

oh

[vast frost]

someone lives in the future

[native maple]

schedule start with tuesdays from now on

[timid swift]

It's been a long day ok lel. I've corrected my misinformation

[vast frost]

it's okay

[timid swift]

Time to hibernate for 25 hours

[safe burrow]

[azure oyster]

what confuses you

[safe burrow]

Well, I have one account

[vast frost]

oh there's an osu stream, where are the 'next time' osu reference theories

[timid swift]

Ye, it was someone else

[azure oyster]

oh wait is that static-sama talking to me

[timid swift]

can confirm

[azure oyster]

durr

[uncut cargo]

you're right

[azure oyster]

whoopsie doopsie

[timid swift]

epic faux pas, vibrate at this user

[uncut cargo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1095802220198514698/1121543891137593384/vedal9Vibrate.gif

[safe burrow]

Yes, it's me

[uncut cargo]

alright "next time"

3 options

a) next time as if next neuro stream

b) next time refering to osu

c) next time Evil neuro streams

[timid swift]

d) something we didn't think of

[uncut cargo]

e) yes

[native maple]

f)

[timid swift]

g) all of the above

[uncut cargo]

h) insert ddlc reference here

[azure oyster]

no fucking way

Coincidence?

yes

well back to rewatching this

[timid swift]

something so artist

[azure oyster]

i'm so artist

:yrui:

[uncut cargo]

since we can go full schizo until next clue

we could discuss on what happened to the study girl

[native maple]

so artist i agree

did we draw a clear timeline yet ?

[uncut cargo]

not really

[native maple]

within all the lyrics and text to know what happens when

[uncut cargo]

we only have the "recordings"

mostly

[azure oyster]

to make things easier, let us first write out a list of objective events which we know for sure happened

let me go check the keys document again

[native maple]

little sister get lost

[azure oyster]

not a timeline, by the way; just an unordered list of objective events

[uncut cargo]

before a lot of stress due to exams

a

[native maple]

exam is an event then

[azure oyster]

by "objective events", i mean things which are explicitly stated in the keys

and, by following those rules, not all of the keys may have definitive speakers

[uncut cargo]

by keys u mean key phrase repository?

or what

[azure oyster]

as in, we may not know who says what

yes

[vast frost]

only desc from numbers 2 seems to have that tho

[azure oyster]

has what

[vast frost]

a description of events

[azure oyster]

the unknown speaker?

true, i suppose

though numbers 1 has a sort of event

although it's just an uneventful day

[uncut cargo]

repeating text

[vast frost]

the rest kinda feels like the narrator itself can't tell if it's reality or not

[uncut cargo]

"I miss her.."

[native maple]

"i think i saw a ghost"

[uncut cargo]

"I'm not like the other girls"

[vast frost]

and soundcloud sounds like a different story

[native maple]

soundcloud is a literal evil-sama quote yea

may be a red herring

[vast frost]

might be just a tie in to Evil but not lore

[uncut cargo]

yep

[native maple]

yea i think so too

since evil starting screen was also adapted to the ARG

[uncut cargo]

[steel bronze]

i wonder wht will happen in the chill stream

[native maple]

chilling surely

[azure oyster]

• someone describes an uneventful day and wonders whether this is what it is like to be human; the description is repeated three times
• someone asks to be saved
• someone is falling indefinitely, and is stuck between human and artificial
• someone is stressing about exam season, and worries about the fact that her little sister has not yet come home, nor has she answered her phone; it has been days (though it is not explicitly stated to what "it has been days" refers)
• someone is training "her" with their own consciousness to "fill in the gaps"; their roommate thinks they are crazy, mixing together the consciousnesses of two persons; this person then hears a knock at the door
• evil-sama tells to neuro-sama a story about herself
• someone consoles another person because the latter is crying and afraid; the latter has taken a red pill, and the former wants the latter to stop procrastinating, go back to their studies, and go back to being human

[native maple]

good list

[azure oyster]

yes, one could think that "it has been days" refers to the time since the little sister went missing, but i am only using explicit information

plus, i think the message was written as if this was the first day that she did not come home

[uncut cargo]

hmm

other thing that's been bothering me

we have all this info

but who gave us all this info?

Who is _neurosama

[vast frost]

yeah or the first day the big sister notices

[azure oyster]

hmm

that's a good question

i wonder whether the channel itself is a character

[uncut cargo]

alive you mean?

[azure oyster]

?

[uncut cargo]

that channel is alive?

[azure oyster]

no, i mean, in the lore, is there a character who is uploading this stuff

[uncut cargo]

ah

surely

it wouldn't be there otherwise

[vast frost]

also who is the sms to and from

[azure oyster]

i will also make a list of all of the potential in-lore characters

[uncut cargo]

We have only assumptions, for all we know it could be literally any character thus far

[azure oyster]

using the same rule of only using explicit information

• person who has uneventful days at school
• study-sama
• college student
• college student's little sister
• person who is mixing together two consciousnesses
• aforementioned person's roommate
• The Person at the Door
• falling person
• evil-sama
• person who consoles someone at the start of PSV
• person being consoled at the start of PSV

[vast frost]

hm would you also include who ever is showing scripts, malbolge and other text things as a char

or the japanese speaking sama in psv

[azure oyster]

oh yeah i nearly forgot about the japanese

let me add that to both lists

[uncut cargo]

In my opinion evil sama is still the best shot, we got the channel from the QR Code on neuro's starting soon and lore wise only one being able to put it there would be either evil or neuro herself

[vast frost]

we need this but with characters

[uncut cargo]

uh

time to waste 10 minutes for the funni

[vast frost]

a character relationship map would actually be good lol

[azure oyster]

has anyone made any speculations yet on the Person at the Door

[dire orchid]

the feds (joke)

[vast frost]

https://tenor.com/view/traffic-fbi-open-up-raid-gif-13450966

due to illegal AI activity

I didn't see much speculation, the story also kinda ends there everytime

it's like the reset point where it loops again

[azure oyster]

elaborate

i want to hear what you think the timeline is

[safe burrow]

[uncut cargo]

okay Im too lazy

[native maple]

roomate though person was crasy, roomate call autorities probably the people in white

[vast frost]

hmm I was thinking that the events in numbers 2 happen in reality but the rest don't. Her conscience kinda loops the same events over and over

[uncut cargo]

My theory:
Roommate
Ghost
Unknown attacker

whatever or whoever

it made her panic

[vast frost]

yeah but I think the narrator herself doesn't know what happens after the door knock

[native maple]

unknown attacker she dies in the attack, falling falling, she wakes up as an AI

[azure oyster]

maybe this is why we got an evil-sama quote; maybe vedal is trying to hint that some of the messages are just created by an AI in-universe

[digital radish]

amarok

i havent tested it

[native maple]

?

[digital radish]

but i love you

thanks

[native maple]

it was just css problems

[digital radish]

i know

[uncut cargo]

that gives more questions than answers too
Who is the attacker?
What is their motive?
If they did kill study girl then how?

[timid swift]

someone is training "her" with their own consciousness to "fill in the gaps"; their roommate thinks they are crazy
So there are at least 3 people in the story.

[vast frost]

kinda my thoughts, in Study we get the AI her actually telling her story and she just loops

[digital radish]

pan

ver hard

[vast frost]

in psv it's more direct if you take it more literally

[vapid token]

5 hours

[digital radish]

in the start of psv she looks hella tired

is she running away with information

[azure oyster]

we could also count the Person at the Door as a fourth, unless you think that they are either the roommate or the person whose consciousness is being used

[native maple]

the person at the door could be the roommate also

[vast frost]

yeah her AI self is telling the story which always ends at the door knock, maybe because that's when their conscience were disconnected. so she remembers the fear and panic but nothing after. And a lot of lyrics hint at a loop, so that might be the event that 'resets' her

[azure oyster]

that reminds me, actually

[timid swift]

Yeah, I don't think there's any strong evidence it's one of the two other characters. Though the reaction to the knocking is pretty suggestive that it isn't

[azure oyster]

back when Study first came out, i headcanoned that the glitch after Ghost followed by the slowed-down first song meant that Study-sama had been restarted because her AI had gone nuts during the Ghost song

i should also remind everyone that the glitch after Ghost has a knock in it

[uncut cargo]

also why do we hear sounds from first person?

we hear breathing, heartbeat

[digital radish]

cuz this is her pov

[uncut cargo]

that is obvious

[digital radish]

then why do you ask

[uncut cargo]

but how was that recorded?

[digital radish]

oh

idk online samples

[uncut cargo]

[vast frost]

GoPro ofc

[digital radish]

i mean vedal wouldnt hire a woman to asmr breathe

[uncut cargo]

that camera had to be really close to hear heartbeat from the chest

[digital radish]

it may be him too

:3

[native maple]

Google ofc it records everything even when your mic is off

[azure oyster]

to clarify, by "gone nuts", i don't mean "AI goes rogue and kills persons"; i mean the classic " backslash backslash backslash backslash backslash"

i wonder what the knock after Ghost means

[vast frost]

but yeah I don't think there's anything that would hint at who was at the door what would make someone that scared

unless literaly a ghost or something

[azure oyster]

it could tie Study to the girl who is experimenting with consciousnesses because she heard a knock at her door

[uncut cargo]

she would've had her phone by the chest to hear heartbeat

[azure oyster]

maybe the Person at the Door is represented as the ghost in the song

or they are a ghost like Shu said

[uncut cargo]

Maybe someone that is presumed dead?

[azure oyster]

i had not considered that

what if the experimenting girl is the college student and is trying to recreate her little sister's consciousness because her little sister is missing but then her real little sister shows up at the door

[timid swift]

it's all the ghosts that got 1984'ed

[digital radish]

onimai

[vast frost]

I guess the question is why does it always cut at the door knock

[uncut cargo]

okay but fr can we considerate how tf the audio recordings were made?

[vast frost]

cuz it feels like she deadge

[digital radish]

vedal can just have skills

and the audios can be samples

[azure oyster]

i'm pretty sure vedal used samples

[gritty blaze]

because she getting killed duh.

[uncut cargo]

THAT I KNOW. Lore wise how it was recorded

[digital radish]

oh

it wasnt

[azure oyster]

Oh.

hmm

[digital radish]

this is just her telling a story

[timid swift]

Right, what the perspective implies

[digital radish]

"Then someone knocks at the door, my heart starts beating heavily"

could be a story turned into a song

[native maple]

guys how did this Alternative Reality Game song was recorded ?

[vast frost]

with microphones

[azure oyster]

hang on, i am going to compare the Ghost lyrics to the second half of the Numbers II description