every time it doesnt get a real result
its just cyberchef doesnt always show it
#Neuro ARG
austere sun
steel bronze
DOCS TOO COMPLICATED!!!!!!!!!
eternal timber
We tried to reach out to it on telegram and whatsapp 
but the phone number didn't tell us anything
timid swift
DOCS TOO COMPLICATED!!!!!!!!!
No arms, no cookies (danish saying)
eternal timber
Also people tried to text it
safe monolith
one mad man called
hollow flare
We tried to reach out to it on telegram and whatsapp <:neurOMEGALUL:109729731811...
pff. I use messages.
obtuse basalt
The js program just sends a message, right?
coral ibex
I asked this earlier and apparently the program is paid or something for messagemedia
languid swan
Can't confirm if that number is active, I don't know what UK carriers do with their numbers
native maple
every time it doesnt get a real result
its just cyberchef doesnt always show it
if you do nopadding it shows it everytime
wind crypt
holy that slander video
native maple
yooo shiro
wind crypt
you guys are absolutely losing it in here arent you
hollow flare
did y’all try calling it
steel bronze
I asked this earlier and apparently the program is paid or something for messag...
i dont think it is...
eternal timber
you guys are absolutely losing it in here arent you
We solved so much today Shiro
hollow flare
I would have done that like 5 times
timid swift
holy that slander video
that was ages ago lmao
obtuse basalt
We're actually getting better lol
native maple
we actually solved a bunch of shit
obtuse basalt
Eventually we'll hit a roadblock and lose it harder don't worry
eternal timber
Well thanks to the clues in Public Static Void but still
eternal timber
And thanks to the talented and sane people in this discord 
obtuse basalt
Who?
coral ibex
@steel bronze I asked hours ago n got this response
wind crypt
we are sane 👍
timid swift
Clearly Shiro didn't see shet yet :p They're only just getting to the slander video!
languid swan
e
wind crypt
wdym didnt see shet
safe monolith
only 3 more years of reading to go
hollow flare
it’s all anny’s fault!11!!
steel bronze
ill try something
wind crypt
i was here long ago when we were analyzing numbers I
timid swift
wdym didnt see shet
the phone number
wind crypt
had a program to generate most possible number outcomes from the lyrics
eternal timber
One of them was correct apparently
austere sun
had a program to generate most possible number outcomes from the lyrics
one of the outcomes was correct, but you missed the last step
eternal timber
But we just didn't know what to do with it
wind crypt
wait seriously?
fast path
did we get anything from study other than the number
timid swift
had a program to generate most possible number outcomes from the lyrics
one of them was right by the way. There was an additional step tho
safe monolith
yes
wind crypt
obtuse basalt
Lol
eternal timber
Yeah because we also needed to substitute some of the numbers for letters
wind crypt
I this arg
nice edited trick
hollow flare
nice edited trick
thanks
native maple
yea your program was correct we just missed matching the letters
hollow flare
yeah did
native maple
str = str.replaceAll("5","a");
str = str.replaceAll("7","b");
str = str.replaceAll("2","c");
str = str.replaceAll("9","d");
str = str.replaceAll("4","e");
str = str.replaceAll("3","f");
which, can i just reiterate, was an insane reach
languid swan
That number doesn't seem to be registered on Telegram
wind crypt
- oh
native maple
well someone joined the discord and told us how to do it
wind crypt
it just only works with a few
languid swan
can't see its data center location
hollow flare
yeah did
timid swift
That number doesn't seem to be registered on Telegram
What makes you say that? They cleared their history with me earlier
languid swan
wait a sec
eternal timber
That number doesn't seem to be registered on Telegram
I messaged them and it says read on telegram
languid swan
that's weird
eternal timber
But that's as far as it goes
timid swift
Gotta check them docs my dude
azure oyster
bruh
timid swift
or we'll go in circles all day
obtuse basalt
Ghosted?
I think you saw a ghost that day
eternal timber
save me is the message from the javascript I'm sane I swear
languid swan
It seems to exist and not exist??
eternal timber
Ghosted?
I think you saw a ghost that day
👻
safe monolith
inb4 canonical access to telegram servers
wind crypt
what did it use to do
no it worked i just did it wrong
hollow flare
nevermind
azure oyster
has anyone gotten the balls to test the JS code with the phone number yet
native maple
go buy it
safe monolith
i really don't think it makes a difference, it's still sms at the end of the day
timid swift
has anyone gotten the balls to test the JS code with the phone number yet
I don't have a valid sending phone number for the js code
azure oyster
why would he provide the code if not for us to use it
timid moth
i really don't think it makes a difference, it's still sms at the end of the day
maybe it auto-responds to the specific msg?
hollow flare
when y’all get the arg solved send the answer to the number
eternal timber
i really don't think it makes a difference, it's still sms at the end of the day
I think it might, because it says that the message fails and it prints the error log
tawdry narwhal
anyone check UK yellow pages ?
eternal timber
We don't get an error log from a regular message
azure oyster
maybe it auto-responds to the specific msg?
this is whAT I SUGGESTED--
timid swift
when y’all get the arg solved send the answer to the number
you can read all about it in the docs. We don't have a mailing list yet (:
timid swift
anyone check UK yellow pages ? <:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100>
I tried, but maybe i'm dumb. Did't get anything
safe monolith
well if someone buys access i'm willing to whip up a program to test it out
timid swift
Same, but still need a phonenumber. Preferably UK
azure oyster
as head of annoyance around here, i demand that we leave no stone unturned and test the JS code regardless of any expectations for it
native maple
Same, but still need a phonenumber. Preferably UK
it's an api that provide it
timid swift
ye, how do you think it works?
native maple
as head of annoyance around here, i demand that we leave no stone unturned and t...
go buy it then
timid moth
as head of annoyance around here, i demand that we leave no stone unturned and t...
who knows js from here
languid swan
I sent from a US number and a UK number
timid swift
you gotta sign up and give a valid sending number
azure oyster
i know a small bit but not nearly enough
and i am too sickened by javascript to learn it 
native maple
there is a lot of website like that it just send regular SMS
literally search send sms for free on google
timid swift
Alright then, see if you can sign up with that
austere sun
just for public information, i manually went through psv's very brightened frames, and either i am inattentive or there's nothing hidden
obtuse basalt
RECTANGLE
safe monolith
cLuE
azure oyster
Quite Rectangular...
steel bronze
there is a free trial for messagemedia
we get to send a whopping 25 messages (WOW!)
timid swift
let me know if you get through the signup
native maple
good luck
steel bronze
i had to go through
timid swift
i know
hollow flare
someone send me the phone number I beg
native maple
yup
steel bronze
WHOD ESIGNS A WEBSITE LIKE THIS
timid swift
someone send me the phone number I beg
it's in the docs.
steel bronze
MY INNER UX DESIGNER IS SCREAMING
native maple
+44 7537 130663
timid swift
you, clearly
azure oyster
hollow flare
thanks
azure oyster
true
native maple
yup
timid swift
I told you
azure oyster
Don't have...?
steel bronze
a australian canadian new zealandian british or american phone number
azure oyster
is everyone in this server a frickin' american
timid swift
you need a valid sending phone number to sign up
native maple
is everyone in this server a frickin' american
the opposite
steel bronze
https://hub.messagemedia.com/register but you guys can find the free trial here
azure oyster
oh wait
safe monolith
what is the opposite of an american
timid swift
is everyone in this server a frickin' american
clearly not, american phone numbers are valid
azure oyster
rabby included american numbers
hollow flare
what is the opposite of an american
skinny
eternal timber
what is the opposite of an american
non-american
azure oyster
... i am american 
timid swift
go sign up to the messagemedia thing, american :p
austere sun
you can get an american virtual number for free on the internet
azure oyster
okay buckaroo
open nymph
oh god, has it devolved into coordinated spamming at a single number?
azure oyster
i will need instructions so i do not fuck up anything 
hollow flare
blackmail
steel bronze
oh god, has it devolved into coordinated spamming at a single number?
no we're trying to navigate FUCKING HELL'S WEBSITE just to find a way to use the code in the study video
azure oyster
what
eternal timber
oh god, has it devolved into coordinated spamming at a single number?
Coordinated? you overestimate us
native maple
just send sms
steel bronze
i will need instructions so i do not fuck up anything <:aubrey_neutral_180:10664...
enter a fake name, fake last name, a throwaway email, your actual number, and a password (remember to save the password)
native maple
?
steel bronze
can i not use legitimate information
this company looks shit
digital radish
ooh lying
steel bronze
so im fine with lying to it
azure oyster
open nymph
sure send social security number or whatever.
timid swift
can i not use legitimate information
up to you. There's nothing wrong with either. Just try not to leak it to us or who knows what'll happen lel
steel bronze
after committing the 6 cardinal sins of UX design i hate this company now
timid swift
- use tables for everything
azure oyster
you are not rabby
vapid token
up to you. There's nothing wrong with either. Just try not to leak it to us or w...
There will be two numbers to spam 
(joke)
native maple
comic sans MS
hollow flare
comic sans MS
what do you have against it
languid swan
Let's see if it cancels this thing lol
steel bronze
list the 6 cardinal sins of UX design
- looping pages
- no dark mode
- PAGES THAT DONT LINK
- TABLES FOR NO REASON
- misleading buttons
- TWO ACCOUNT SYSTEMS FOR NO FUCKING REASON?????????/
hollow flare
Let's see if it cancels this thing lol
NO
timid swift
i was right about the tables
azure oyster
what do you have against it
anyone with common sense knows to use any font other than Comic Sans MS if one wants to be taken seriously
native maple
1. looping pages
2. no dark mode
3. PAGES THAT DONT LINK
4. TABLES FOR NO REASON...
a lot of site use muktiple account system
steel bronze
like CMON the developer portal button SHOULD BE THE DEVELOPER PORTAL
not the
GUIDE
steel bronze
a lot of site use muktiple account system
but this has LITERALLY NO REASON
timid swift
comic sans is for children and CEOs 
steel bronze
also i cried when i saw
hollow flare
anyone with common sense knows to use any font other than Comic Sans MS if one w...
arial
azure oyster
arial <:neurOMEGALUL:1097297318119743638>
oi arial is a good font
native maple
yup
azure oyster
it's plain and simple
hollow flare
yes
native maple
no signup that way
azure oyster
nothing silly-looking about it
timid swift
what else did you expect? Sign in and log out?
hollow flare
now use Montserrat
azure oyster
comic sans is literally designed to look like it's from a comic book
steel bronze
what else did you expect? Sign in and log out?
I DIDNT EXPECT TWO SENTENCES THAT MEAN THE SAME THING
to be
RIGHT NEXT TO EACHTOEHR
hgkjklebklf;'
wnkl./'
timid swift
Rabby, it's time for your heart medicine
azure oyster
because of this conversation, i no longer want to make an account
native maple
you should sue for emotional damage
azure oyster
congratulations
vapid token
Rabby goes high
steel bronze
because of this conversation, i no longer want to make an account <:aubrey_neutr...
you will
it is for the sake of the arg
(also since who thought telegram would work)
azure oyster
well
steel bronze
((this literally uses SMS telegram and whatsapp are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!))
azure oyster
since you walked through this hellsite and now know about it
give a guide of what to do
starting from here https://messagemedia.com/us/
steel bronze
first off click "free trial"
azure oyster
i like the two "free trial" buttons
steel bronze
((this literally uses SMS telegram and whatsapp are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!))
@timid swift why cant we just directly send a SMS ot the phone number
timid swift
two login systes; two free trials
native maple
<@195475507834388481> why cant we just directly send a SMS ot the phone number
do you know of any uk ppl
steel bronze
do you know of any uk ppl
oh right
region locking
damn it time to cntact my scottish friend
azure oyster
wait, does being american not make me helpful
languid swan
<@195475507834388481> why cant we just directly send a SMS ot the phone number
same idea
native maple
need to pay for battle pass too
timid swift
<@195475507834388481> why cant we just directly send a SMS ot the phone number
We can and we have. No response. Some theorize that there are headers or similar in the SMS protocol that the receiver might pick up on, and filter out messages send normally, not with the application
steel bronze
ah dman
azure oyster
so do we need a UK person or will being American suffice
steel bronze
if the latter, which free trial button do i press
both work
timid swift
If we sign up with US phone number and get nothing, we'll eventually be asking "but what if.. the other end can't answer US based SMS? What if.. we need a UK number??"
azure oyster
oh i need a fuckin' company name
tawdry narwhal
we only need a messagemedia auth key rn
more keys 
timid swift
boaty mcboatface
timid swift
N/A
uneven moth
and i am unemployed <:aubrey_neutral:858966488328962078>
those might be corelated
timid swift
Not applicable, spelled out i guess
austere sun
what if it only lets you message people from your company
quaint reef
Okay surely vedal doesn't expect us to go through all that. Maybe we are just sending the wrong message
azure oyster
oh god
timid moth
where is the js code snippet?
azure oyster
on the docs
timid swift
Okay surely vedal doesn't expect us to go through all that. Maybe we are just se...
That's the bi question, isn't it?
timid moth
which page i meant?
native maple
anyway in the documetation it does say we can attach metadata to the message but in the code we have it doesn't do that
eternal timber
where is the js code snippet?
timid swift
on the docs
Imagine it being in docs 
Imagine if someone wrote out all the missing parts
that'd be crazy
azure oyster
imagine not checking the docs
steel bronze
sorry im back
azure oyster
that'd be messed up
uneven moth
that'd be crazy <:Tutel:1094023470884585632>
that'd be actually crazy
steel bronze
never mind
type LITERALLY anything there
azure oyster
you are late
also what i had typed there was technically literally anything
you fucking peanut
timid moth
what if we send "save me..." but encrypted?
azure oyster
what if we send "save me..." but encrypted?
... how
native maple
can also just send the key
dapper wraith
anyway in the documetation it does say we can attach metadata to the message but...
there's also this thing
timid moth
dont we have the aes encryption key?
azure oyster
we must reinvent the MessageMedia API to avoid paying
azure oyster
1bad0fcabc1ebdce
for fuck's sake i just made the account
native maple
what ?
azure oyster
oh actually i have not yet; there are multiple steps
steel bronze
for fuck's sake i just made the account <:aubrey_neutral:858966488328962078>
thats the 128 bit key from the arg
native maple
bnan asked for the key not you
tawdry narwhal
the js program failed to send the message to the phone number btw, maybe the number was wrong from the start
timid swift
1badkey
steel bronze
the js program failed to send the message to the phone number btw, maybe the num...
you dont have a
api key
or a secret api key
azure oyster
the js program failed to send the message to the phone number btw, maybe the num...
wait has someone else already frickin' tried
native maple
no
steel bronze
(two keys you get from either the free trial or the non-free trial)
azure oyster
why have we not been informed of this during the conversati--
safe monolith
the js program failed to send the message to the phone number btw, maybe the num...
strictly speaking it failed to execute, which can mean anything
lore-wise we do have a connection for failing to execute
native maple
prob failed cause number was encrypted
azure oyster
you know
steel bronze
why have we not been informed of this during the conversati--
just continue...
tawdry narwhal
prob failed cause number was encrypted
i mean true
steel bronze
continue with the sign up
azure oyster
what if we're looking too deeply into it and study-sama is just regretting her conversion to an AI and is trying and failing to cry out for help
native maple
nah the lore we found is that she lost her little sister
native maple
the docs
timid swift
what if we try sending just this?
I mean, try it
native maple
azure oyster
austere sun
the d cs
azure oyster
okay thank you
native maple
banana
rancid panther
the answer is always the docs
native maple
true
azure oyster
check the timeline to know where to look for updates
oh okay thank you
safe monolith
we need a docs emote
timid swift
it needs to be papers on fucking fire
azure oyster
:checkthedocsyoufuckingpeanut:
obtuse basalt
The docs logo violently vibrating
steel bronze
thats why i proposed a trello instead of the doc
native maple
BECAUSE WE'RE HARD WORKING
uneven moth
thats why i proposed a trello instead of the doc
honestly not a terrible idea
azure oyster
i think we should separate the facts from the theories
native maple
we not gonna start doing a trello and what next ? a gantt ? why not a full UML 
timid swift
With a trello you can get even more lost in the sauce
azure oyster
it will make reading the docs much easier
safe monolith
we not gonna start doing a trello and what next ? a gantt ? why not a full UML ...
pls no uml
uneven moth
With a trello you can get even more lost in the sauce
also true
timid swift
oh god, not gantt, plz
steel bronze
we gon make a UML next
native maple
obtuse basalt
Fact: Fallen Down is an Undertale reference
timid swift
plz no
native maple
our docs arent meant to be readable just to store everything ever thought of
timid swift
So are you proposing a primer doc then?
native maple
hyper chat docs
uneven moth
our docs arent meant to be readable just to store everything ever thought of
is that supposed to be better?
obtuse basalt
back to schizo arg solvers
uneven moth
~~back to schizo arg solvers~~
we never left
azure oyster
i propose we completely separate theories from facts, either by having a dedicated theories section in the doc or making a separate doc altogether
uneven moth
i propose we completely separate theories from facts, either by having a dedicat...
it could be as easy as making them a different font color too 
azure oyster
and, by theories, i include methods of decrypting too
austere sun
it's probably going to be confusing which theories came from which facts
steel bronze
ithink i could be the only one who knows how to handle npm and work with node.js good enough
azure oyster
unless the methods of decrypting have proven to work
timid swift
people keep writing speculations into facts, i keep moving it (presumably others do too), cycle starts over
native maple
most of it is solved anyway
azure oyster
me too
steel bronze
guys i dont think you realize that this could be solved by a trello
just have
Numbers 1 section
Numbers 2 section
azure oyster
and the formatting
steel bronze
tags for each thing
timid moth
what if we try sending just this?
if i were to send this, should i also encode it in base64?
timid swift
please, no kanban board will ever solve this
azure oyster
persons, please keep the fonts consistent
steel bronze
tags such as "confirmed" "working theory" "schizo" etc
obtuse basalt
people keep writing speculations into facts, i keep moving it (presumably others...
Today in class....
azure oyster
don't change the font size and font family for completely random text
it looks awful
and makes navigating even more difficult
native maple
we tried doing that with folders but people never used them
uneven moth
don't change the font size and font family for completely random text
But my comic sans 
azure oyster
But my comic sans <:Do:1107347790356566097>
You have mere seconds.
native maple
thats some Azaka level stuff
austere sun
hacking telegram account?
languid swan
just to confirm its existence
uneven moth
You have mere seconds.
try me
native maple
it's gonna send a code to the number
safe monolith
only 5 digits to brute force
azure oyster
counting the neuros :5neuros:
languid swan
Send a verification code to other devices logged into this account
timid swift
only 5 digits to brute force
Surely they don't change and it totally wouldn't be a crime to actually attempt to hack a real chat service
uneven moth
Surely they don't change and it totally wouldn't be a crime to actually attempt ...
But laws don't apply in args
timid swift
counting the neuros :5neuros:
reading docs, let's gooo
azure oyster
God, this is sickening.
Who the hell put the solution for the description above the description heading, with Heading 1?
What kind of clown are you?
timid swift
yeah, i've heard enough complainging about that now. Gonna move it
native maple
poor bread
uneven moth
What kind of clown are you?
What kind of clown are you?
Quote: @azure oyster
timid swift
i didn't even want it up there 
azure oyster
> What kind of clown are you?
Quote: <@300991257239355394>
i am The Clown
that is my type
safe monolith
librarian not paid enough for this
native maple
give him more bananas
eternal timber
Aaron lie is an anagram for: alienator, rationale. I thought both kind of fit the ARG though don't tell us anything (unless they're a cypher or something)
azure oyster
i have moved the section to its proper place
steel bronze
azure oyster
@timid swift
timid moth
what?
timid swift
i have moved the section to its proper place
now let's see how long until someone complains that it's below all that random junk nobody wants to read
safe monolith
wait really?
azure oyster
I thought we tested this already, and came up with nothing.
azure oyster
i believe it was darkeew who tried
austere sun
you can opt out of being found on discord by phone number, but that doesn't mean there isn't an account with one
open nymph
it usually says sent even if there is nothing connected to it.
native maple
it's a burner so there gonna be a lot of account created with it
timid swift
niiice!
steel bronze
all i need are the last two ingredients
timid swift
ye i'm at the same place
native maple
the api
timid swift
api user and pass
steel bronze
"YOUR_BASIC_API_KEY" and "YOUR_BASIC_SECRET_KEY"
austere sun
bruteforcing api keys
steel bronze
@azure oyster your turn, you can see the "developer guide" on how to make a api key, make sure to make a REST API key
timid swift
again with the hacking of legitimate services. Surely it'll be such a great idea
azure oyster
did some buffoon put the second half of the decrypted description in the middle of the document full of failed decryption tests or is the second half not yet decrypted
uneven moth
all i need are the last two ingredients
schizo.js
good file name
steel bronze
maybe the response might give us the thing we were finally waiting for
timid swift
did some buffoon put the second half of the decrypted description in the middle ...
for Numbers II? No, it seems that something was double encrypted
uneven moth
Do we have any leads on decrypting the second bit of numbers 2?
azure oyster
so where is the part about the dead little sister what was mentioned earlier
languid swan
The conclusion is no
quaint reef
We haven't used most of the lyrics yet and it's probably self contained
native maple
dead ????
azure oyster
oh wait i see it now
quaint reef
Hopefully probably self contained
safe monolith
Do we have any leads on decrypting the second bit of numbers 2?
we potentially need a 128bit key
azure oyster
doyee
languid swan
discord will say the same thing to every number, even if that number is not registered
timid swift
Do we have any leads on decrypting the second bit of numbers 2?
The public static void spectrogram suggests that the second part has a 128 bit key
azure oyster
why did i call her "it"
uneven moth
The public static void spectrogram suggests that the second part has a 128 bit k...
yeah. Any leads on that key?
azure oyster
i think i meant the fact itself and not the person
steel bronze
yeah since likely the spectrogram = numbers II and video = numbers I
crimson tendonBOT
@uneven moth has leveled up! (7 ➜ 8)
timid swift
nope. We tried 1bad..
steel bronze
but anyways i feel like we were literally never in a million years going to solve this without public static void
pray to the tawtol
steel bronze
@azure oyster ill be waiting for the api key
cuz ur the only
one
who can make free trial
azure oyster
someone else here please be american i do not want to bullshit an account into existence and never use it again
timid swift
be br*tish preferably
quaint reef
How are there no Americans and British in this English speaking community
What are the odds
timid swift
what if the thing can only reply to same country
steel bronze
what if the thing can only reply to same country
then why would this service exist, huh?
pretty sure its main use is
slow shuttle
What's up? Sadly I qualify as american
steel bronze
global SMS
timid swift
no?
uneven moth
i am american too 
||its tragic||
timid swift
it's automated SMS
azure oyster
A fellow scientist American!
austere sun
global SMS
isn't the main use intracompany message exchange
azure oyster
i am american too <:Sadge:1106364706249261136>
||~~***its tragic***~~||
A fellow scientist American! (2)
native maple
we could ask in general for a uk person
austere sun
ask vedal
tawdry narwhal
just ask vedal
steel bronze
sign up here please
timid swift
hey, UK person, give me your phone number. Or wait, no, run this code on your computer instead
slow shuttle
On it
steel bronze
make sure its the free trial
native maple
tbh i still think regular sms work the same
steel bronze
after which @slow shuttle folllow https://support.messagemedia.com/hc/en-us/articles/4413627066383-Creating-New-REST-API-Credentials and send me the code stuff maybe
azure oyster
amarok hush
timid swift
tbh i still think regular sms work the same
same, but we gotta try the divergent
obstruction will get us nowhere
steel bronze
i mean hey
native maple
amarok hush <:aubrey_neutral:858966488328962078>
can you not ?
steel bronze
we might aswell try
timid swift
who took that title from me and gave it to you by the way?
slow shuttle
Is this going to doxx me if I put my phone in lmao
steel bronze
Is this going to doxx me if I put my phone in lmao
no messagemedia should be fairly reputable
open nymph
we are meant to like, take these numbers from numbers2
int[] numbers2 = new int[]{
201,
1321,
5831,
723,
743,
4913,
879,
875,
2145,
716,
906,
4156
};```
and apply them to numbers1 or vice versa to generate the keys right?
steel bronze
theyre a for-profit company afterall
native maple
most likely
steel bronze
and included in the arg
timid swift
Is this going to doxx me if I put my phone in lmao
nah, just don't leak it to all of us dummies
steel bronze
uneven moth
we are meant to like, take these numbers from numbers2
```java
int[] numbers2 = ...
I have c# code for encrypt/decrypt if you want it
timid moth
we are meant to like, take these numbers from numbers2
```java
int[] numbers2 = ...
we did that already tho, no?
native maple
well the person that use the api get to see it
austere sun
wouldn't sharing the api key and secret code technically leak everything
azure oyster
... Would it?
steel bronze
no
open nymph
gonna make an arg to make people message me so i can have friends
steel bronze
its only an api key and a secret code
has nothing to do with the account
(and i mean LITERALLY NOTHING)
timid swift
we are meant to like, take these numbers from numbers2
```java
int[] numbers2 = ...
That's how we found the solution for the numbers 1 algorithm
native maple
you can intercept the request
austere sun
can't you make a request something likee lmao mine.phone.get()
open nymph
oh i see, wasnt written anywhere so 
azure oyster
we are meant to like, take these numbers from numbers2
```java
int[] numbers2 = ...
Is this Java my beloved?
uneven moth
That's how we found the solution for the numbers 1 algorithm
I thought numbers one was the 52793 or smth
uneven moth
Is this Java my beloved?
c# >> java And I will stand by this claim
azure oyster
Java, my beloved...
timid swift
I thought numbers one was the 52793 or smth
oh, maybe. I might be confusing ym numbers now you mention it
azure oyster
c# >> java And I will stand by this claim
i have never used C# but i know it is similar to java and that ranks it high for me
open nymph
use the tool that does the job, who cares about which language.
native maple
Kotlin >>>>
timid swift
i have never used C# but i know it is similar to java and that ranks it high for...
Try it. You'll never go back
uneven moth
i have never used C# but i know it is similar to java and that ranks it high for...
Its java... But with tuples and extension methods
azure oyster
but...
native maple
just use Kotlin it's literally java
azure oyster
but DalekCraft2/StructureEdit repository my beloved written in java my beloved
open nymph
how to derail a conversation, an xy guide.
uneven moth
just use Kotlin it's literally java
A) its not
B) kotlins a whole different than java compared to c#
native maple
you also get an automatic convert java to kotlin on most IDE
azure oyster
Its java... But with ***tuples*** and ***extension methods***
Aren't tuples just objects with fields arranged in arbitrary positions like an array?
Like using an array instead of an object?
That's disgusting.
uneven moth
Aren't tuples just objects with fields arranged in arbitrary positions like an a...
Yeah sorta, but differing types, while still strictly typed
native maple
Kotlin is literally Java, you can put java code in Kotlin
steel bronze
@slow shuttle i will await the api key and secret key
uneven moth
That's disgusting.
You say that, but use one
slow shuttle
<@148647897699844096> i will await the api key and secret key
working on it i'll let you know if I have any issues
uneven moth
Kotlin is literally Java, you can put java code in Kotlin
No, they are different, its that they both run on JDK. That's where the similarities are. Kotlin doesn't run the java code, the JDK does. Thats why.
azure oyster
maven my beloved
uneven moth
When you convert, iirc, it compiles it to bytecode, and then decompiles the bytecode in the other language
native maple
gradle > maven
azure oyster
gradle my be-confused-on-how-to-use-forever
intellij my beloved-but-has-issues-with-gradle-a-lot
timid swift
working on it i'll let you know if I have any issues
take your time. I've seen the site. It's impossible to navigate. We knows the strugglez
azure oyster
haxe my beloved-but-needs-to-be-more-popular-so-the-documentation-can-be-improved-because-the-docs-suck
uneven moth
nuget my (sorta? maybe?) beloved
native maple
No, they are different, its that they both run on JDK. That's where the similari...
my app mixed with Koltin and Java everywhere will blow your mind then
steel bronze
gradle is the bane of my existence
timid swift
imagine talking about programming in #programming and arg in #1112082183235047506
azure oyster
i haven't used java in quite a while, much less gradle
safe monolith
This chat is now #programming
azure oyster
but i remember gradle being the most confusing thing ever
dapper wraith
make sure to include the random "my programming language is better than yours" discussions that pop up once in a while in the next slander video
native maple
im just taking a break waiting for them to do their JS stuff before solving the arg again
uneven moth
<:Clueless:1096203320001040545> my app mixed with Koltin and Java everywhere wil...
thats literally how it works. Huh? You can have code mixed in because they both compile to the bytecode. That doesn't mean there the same
uneven moth
lua's aight. Its everything I wish python was
native maple
oh yea lua
azure oyster
scripting languages my beloathed
someone better make a scripting language with strict types which is not based off of javascript
uneven moth
except the one indexed arrays
native maple
tbh lua isn't that bad
uneven moth
those can die.
azure oyster
i just want a scripting language with java syntax
native maple
i started programming on CASIO so LUA is really smooth
azure oyster
ALL TABLES SHOULD START AT 1
WHAT?
uneven moth
i just want a scripting language with java syntax
That exists
timid swift
scripting languages my beloathed <:aubrey_neutral:858966488328962078>
someone b...
I'll tell you one in #programming
azure oyster
Oh?
native maple
yea table start at 1
uneven moth
ALL TABLES SHOULD START AT 1
BLASPHEMY
steel bronze
sin
azure oyster
why would any index start at 1
austere sun
if only all those languages were bruteforcing aes 128 right now
steel bronze
why would any index start at 1
DO WE EVER COUNT 0???
azure oyster
i feel like lua was created by someone who had never before been a programmer
steel bronze
do we ever go
native maple
cause 0 isn't a number
azure oyster
so everything is made to be human-readable
azure oyster
but it's so bizarre for persons who already are programmers like me
azure oyster
yeah but its still faster than python so
do you think i am supporting python
native maple
0 is just nil
azure oyster
python's syntax alone disgusts me
uneven moth
python's syntax alone disgusts me
^^^
azure oyster
and it fucking capitalizes the True and False keywords
uneven moth
azure oyster
what kind of language uses indentation as part of its syntax
slow shuttle
Sooo when I go to API Settings there isn't a button to create a new key like they show in the link you sent Rabby
azure oyster
whose idea was that
native maple
also the table in lua make indexing to easy
steel bronze
Sooo when I go to API Settings there isn't a button to create a new key like the...
whwat does it show
dm me
it
i think
timid swift
Sooo when I go to API Settings there isn't a button to create a new key like the...
Could you send a screenshot?
uneven moth
The part I hate most about python is how people use it for the most random stuff, and now the best libraries are built for that stuff so you have to keep using python
native maple
yea i tried looking for fft lib for java but most were python
steel bronze
The part I hate most about python is how people use it for the most random stuff...
python shouldve never been used for AI
lmao
uneven moth
never.
steel bronze
they used it so much they had to make a subset of python that is 200000x faster
(mojo)
azure oyster
javascript sickens me for various reasons
native maple
wasn't there a new python fork created with AI ?
uneven moth
Plus what is pygame even supposed to be. pythons not made for that. Python shouldn't do that. Why are you making it do that
dapper wraith
all the performance intensive python functions are implemented in C anyway
steel bronze
wasn't there a new python fork created with AI ?
yeah mojo
azure oyster
firstly, javascript's success is solely based on the fact that it used java's name in order to compete
and succeeded
uneven moth
javascript sickens me for various reasons
The types... Even in typescript its only Number
native maple
javascript sickens me for various reasons
"3" - "1" = 2
azure oyster
"3" - "1" = 2
I was JUST ABOUT to mention this.
steel bronze
firstly, javascript's success is solely based on the fact that it used java's na...
no pretty sure it was because java without the boilerplate
azure oyster
Fucking String subtraction operations.
steel bronze
native maple
uneven moth
no pretty sure it was because java without the boilerplate
no
azure oyster
though i think it only works with a string and a number
uneven moth
java is to javascript as car is to carpet
uneven moth
it's something like
yes its that
azure oyster
it's gross
uneven moth
the sort function too 
azure oyster
and then string addition
timid swift
wow, that'd be so interesting in #programming
native maple
goto #1112082183235047506
native maple
azure oyster
native maple
yea cause it become a concat operator
azure oyster
so consistent
uneven moth
And to think js prides itself on being "intuitive"
azure oyster
we should abolish javascript
native maple
replace it with TypeScript ?
azure oyster
that's based on javascript
uneven moth
we should abolish javascript <:aubrey_neutral:1038537160845963304>
Yes. But not replacing it with python like seems to be most popular. That's bad too
azure oyster
We must leave no trace of JavaScript whatsoever.
native maple
we just waiting for the SMS STUFF
dapper wraith
Yes. But not replacing it with python like seems to be most popular. That's bad ...
WebPython
azure oyster
i wonder how few errors would be online if everything used a strictly typed scripting language
safe monolith
Have we used every piece of evidence only within its own video? If so, what are the chances that the key we've used for 1st part only needs to be permutated somewhat to fit the 2nd part?
azure oyster
mmm, i sort of doubt it
uneven moth
i wonder how few errors would be online if everything used a strictly typed scri...
Whoever decided that strict typing was bad should... [redacted]
azure oyster
that would be too easy
native maple
not much cause JS is just gonna be front end stuff
azure oyster
still
timid swift
Have we used every piece of evidence only within its own video? If so, what are ...
No. There have been a lot of crossovers.
uneven moth
not much cause JS is just gonna be front end stuff
I've seen js used as backend far too many times
azure oyster
numbers and study were released at the same time; perhaps the key lies within one of them
since they should be solveable on their own, right
native maple
node i mean well it's confusing
safe monolith
since they should be solveable on their own, right
Yeah that's what I am thinking
timid swift
since they should be solveable on their own, right
I'm not sure that's true
safe monolith
But unlike numbers 1, numbers 2 has references to soundcloud and study
native maple
we did get some lyrics from i don't want to be an engineer from part 1
safe monolith
So maybe we would be overgeneralizing if we said every video is solvable on its own
native maple
I don't want to become an engineer. I feel so exhausted... three more years just to waste away??
azure oyster
disregarding Numbers II and PSV
timid swift
So maybe we would be overgeneralizing if we said every video is solvable on its ...
Yes, it feels very tangled together. No clear separation for where the borders are drawn
native maple
any news on the sms shambles ?
azure oyster
i'm not saying each individual video
uneven moth
disregarding Numbers II and PSV
disregard videos
timid swift
any news on the sms shambles ?
I don't know, it got washed away by spam
azure oyster
i feel like the latter two videos were released because we are idiots
native maple
disregard docs disregard video disregard everyone
azure oyster
yeah; the soundcloud was created after numbers 1
uneven moth
tbh how would we be supposed to decrypt stuff before PSV?
azure oyster
i assumed that we could because someone else said so
native maple
the numbers 1 we almost did day one
azure oyster
or, rather, i presumed
timid swift
tbh how would we be supposed to decrypt stuff before PSV?
there's no evidence saying were were supposed to
azure oyster
that is, assuming, but with evidence
steel bronze
who's willing to ask vedal if the messagemedia shit is wrong or not
CUZ IVE GONE SCHIZO
safe monolith
Indeed, but then the description and profile metadata surely can't be a reference to Numbers 1
languid swan
Does anyone have old screenshots of soundcloud? i want to confirm something
steel bronze
(NO, BEYOND SCHIZO)
azure oyster
I am willing to do it.
native maple
just wait for next stream
azure oyster
I never think before doing anything.
timid swift
who's willing to ask vedal if the messagemedia shit is wrong or not
check asking people docs
uneven moth
there's no evidence saying were were supposed to
I'm aware. In response to the clown saying that the other two were relaced because we didn't get the solution
timid swift
ye, just reenforcing the idea
native maple
no clue
azure oyster
i mean, we are going to decrypt it anyway
crimson tendonBOT
@azure oyster has leveled up! (46 ➜ 47)
timid swift
we won't know until we know
languid swan
Does anyone have old screenshots of soundcloud? i want to confirm something
Is that double quote added afterward or am I just crazy
azure oyster
let's just decrypt it and find out
timid swift
Is that double quote added afterward or am I just crazy
it's in the docs
native maple
look at the docs
languid swan
uh ok
gritty blaze
x and y is for the sound cloud no?
azure oyster
if i had a nickel...
native maple
in timeline
dapper wraith
what happened to Tyupmojo?
timid swift
eventually something will. The important part is that we don't all throw our bowl of pasta at the same target. We should diversify and spread. Someone will find the solution
native maple
only clue we have is that the second step for numbers II is AES 128
azure oyster
that's true
timid swift
only clue we have is that the second step for numbers II is AES 128
at least that's a strong clue. But as always we might be misreading something
native maple
no
timid swift
we won't know until we have the result
azure oyster
i'm glad we got actual lore finally with the first half of the description; now we have a reason to be invested
to find more lore
austere sun
let's hope vedal is not self-inserting as one of the sisters
timid swift
"sisters" 
plucky bronze
languid swan
native maple
anyway im gonna sleep Surely it's gonna be solve when i wake up
timid swift
sounds like a sweet dream
steel bronze
this is a dead end
azure oyster
this is a dead end
Fucking--
timid swift
Well, not a trial
austere sun
pay up 50neuros
azure oyster
Welp!
timid swift
50 neuros is entirely too expensive for messaging!
azure oyster
how much is 1 Neuro in USD
because we know that 5 Neuros can buy an Emotional Diamond
slow shuttle
If any rich people wanna donate 50 neuros i'll gladly buy it but I doubt vedal wants us to spend that kind of money
timid swift
isn't that 5 neurobucks?
safe monolith
Anyone thought about why soundcloud?
azure oyster
maybe he'll post the songs there after we solve everything
"after we solve everything"
timid swift
Anyone thought about why soundcloud?
yes, and I came up with nothing
languid swan
I'm thinking why he was emphasizing to use firefox and try searching for something
azure oyster
have we done anything with firefox
steel bronze
I'm thinking why he was emphasizing to use firefox and try searching for somethi...
no its because 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 doesnt display correctly on non-firefox browsers
azure oyster
Oooooh.
obtuse basalt
It doesn't
uneven moth
have we done *anything* with firefox
I've been using it, nothing fancy
steel bronze
It doesn't
oops
azure oyster
i'm losing my mind
obtuse basalt
It displays more information, but still leaves stuff out
slow shuttle
too many of these apply
azure oyster
oi, don't provide false information
uneven moth
too many of these apply
just manually edit the packet sent to send multiple
austere sun
no its because Mi9+FxIon9xfLnH5mJVisFF+9L7fTsttB5HjIJMH81O7Ifug4oGDRrTFyMdHSYrHX...
fyi, open in firefox wasn't even there at the start
slow shuttle
oi, don't provide false information
Don't worry I didn't.
austere sun
it is, it doesn't work
the other key we have is this, and i think that's really all
10100101 10100101 11010010 10101001
azure oyster
gritty blaze
In the study song it says 543 and xyz and abc, in the sound cloud string we have 5 times x and 4 times y and 3 times z, too much for a coincidance.
5 times a, 4 times b, and only c also 4 times.
c is the odd one?
or not, maybe the program I used is broken
im sleepy so if somebody thinks in this direction maybe you can try something like this
steel bronze
maybe i might go schizo enough to try this
languid swan
I'm already schizo
fast path
technically none of the other videos were required to solve numbers and study
we used the lyrics from numbers to find the key that solved both the description and the phone number
then the first part of numbers II was solved using the binary obtained within the video itself
yes we needed the clues from psv to solve them, but we only used information from the videos themselves to get the solutions
so I imagine the key for 2nd part of numbers II should be found in Numbers II
azure oyster
just as i said
i'm considering whether i should tell to the jp channel what that video was what i sent, since they asked
the issue would be that all of the arg docs are in english so it would be hard for them to contribute
so they might feel left out
but what if it forces vedal to add JP subs to all the videos which may lead to EN subs
austere sun
isn't there a japanese group that also was solving the arg, or was there only chinese
azure oyster
nah that's not my actual reason for telling them
azure oyster
what do you mean, why japanese
i mean because they asked what the video was when i asked for a transcription
safe monolith
oh I meant, why was japanese used as the language for the latest video
quaint reef
cos we are all weebs
austere sun
fr, what's the point of using jp if you're going to just give english subs anyway
safe monolith
cos we are all weebs
yeah likely a 
moment
azure oyster
hmm
maybe i will tell them about it
and i will link to this thread, too, in case any of them want to try talking english here to help or something
safe monolith
tell them we welcome them with open arms
azure oyster
red brook
the turtle wanted to score some style points
azure oyster
Do common Japanese persons know what ARGs are?
red brook
japanese ARGs exist
idk if many people know about them
steel bronze
technically none of the other videos were required to solve numbers and study
we...
the million schizo question: WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE NUMBER!
red brook
I mean... even most english speaking people probably never heard of ARGs
azure oyster
i'll just say arg and see whether i need to explain it later
red brook
"internet mystery" might be a good short descriptor if they don't know
obtuse basalt
technically none of the other videos were required to solve numbers and study
we...
I speculate it's the number sequence that was shown in Public Static Void, but I have no way of knowing what to do and I'm on mobile
The 201 etc etc
fast path
thats too many characters though
so some people tried removing some of the numbers using the soundcloud description, but nothing has worked yet
#1112082183235047506 message
azure oyster
okey i sent a message in jp chat answering the question
i hope they know what an arg is because i feel it is going to be difficult to explain it
obtuse basalt
There's also syllables? Something to do with the first decryption of the description?
idk make it work
fast path
all the numbers are 4 syllables
the sets of 3 numbers all form 12 syllables
fast path
There's also syllables? Something to do with the first decryption of the descrip...
oh you mean count the syllables in the lore part?
dont think anyone has done that yet
supple perch
how goes the arg
azure oyster
how goes the arg
i have informed jp members about the arg
fast path
currently stuck again, but the most progress we have ever seen after the new video came out
azure oyster
true 
reef spruce
how goes the arg
Numbers 1 - solved
Numbers 2 - 50% solved
Study JS number - decrypted
safe monolith
docx
supple perch
neat
safe monolith
@digital radish should add a is-it-solved.html into the site he's working on
supple perch
why is there 83 pages of static-sama stuff
azure oyster
ah, static-sama
orchid cairn
Do common Japanese persons know what ARGs are?
did you end up analyzing the japanese text?
azure oyster
the "good" old days
orchid cairn
azure oyster
did you end up analyzing the japanese text?
i don't know enough japanese but i can try to analyze really simple stuff what i recognize
even with using google translate to see the romaji for it, it's still (expectedly) like i'm reading another language
because i am
digital radish
im doing /documentation first
azure oyster
i just go "
hey look there's 'anata', that means 'you'"
digital radish
automaticly syncs with google docs
safe monolith
other than the docs on google drive, we also made some tools for the arg. would be nice to have it all in one place. so he's consolidating it into one site
good to look back 30 years later when the arg is solved
azure oyster
what's the purpose of the site
azure oyster
yeah
digital radish
then i will beg on my knees to @daring acorn to give me a masterpiece
azure oyster
this is why i excel in minecraft with redstone and commands and then i have a house which is literally a giant wooden rectangular prism with exactly one room on each floor
digital radish
thats not functionality
digital radish
thats craziness
azure oyster
oi, redstone and commands are functionality
digital radish
<:Tutel:1094023470884585632>
think it this way, you dont have to js ;)
something minimalist and basic
i really dont know any css
like
make a white cube with rounded corners
and put whatever the fuck i made in there
done
azure oyster
i'm great at making a stronghold into an expansive structure containing nearly every minecraft farm, from crops to iron, and with a workshop with every interactable workbench-type item
daring acorn
White cube with rounded corners?like the whole site?