Start with number 2 
heading number 2 it's all connected 
#Neuro ARG
eternal timber
native maple
Azaka ? D: you don't know ??
jaunty finch
most likely, the Telegram account that was found recently (Telegram ID: 6175915359) was created not so long ago (bots to "check the approximate date of registration" say April or June, I personally assume that March or April).
but it will be very funny if Telegram is not connected to ARG.
results from "bots to check approximate registration date:"
https://ibb.co/dcY4j7B
https://ibb.co/s2PfzH9
safe monolith
thanks for the metadata check
jaunty finch
most likely, the Telegram account that was found recently (Telegram ID: `6175915...
it is impossible to know the exact date of registration because of Telegram's peculiarities (user IDs are not sequential and are generated by a special algorithm)
(sorry for the possible inaccuracy, I am using a translator xd)
native maple
arg video were like 27april so checks out
jaunty finch
This number also has WhatsApp
azure oyster
is that just a singular space 
native maple
might just be a number for rent so the previous owner before vedal created tg and whatsapp
jaunty finch
what can we do with it
nothing xd
digital radish
OMG CLOWN
steel bronze
azure oyster
multiple spaces
steel bronze
im very sure we're going off track sicne i dont hink that whatsapp and telegram are
related to this
austere sun
ping him right now then, use your privilege
digital radish
what privilege
azure oyster
if it is him, vedal's probably just sending single spaces to be spooky
the rules say not to ping for no reason
azure oyster
but this is certainly reason enough
safe monolith
We've sent our fair share of messages already, so I think it's a good time to stop first
digital radish
@wispy plinth is it okay to mention vedal to ask if the phone number we got from the clue is not someone that we're accidentally doxxing
safe monolith
also not too sure about doxxing, since the number is public info
coral ibex
I'm catching up on the docs ATM but nice to see we got progress
safe monolith
we haven't uncovered other personal information other than the number, and the fact that two chat accounts exist
native maple
just gotta wait for the response
could you imagine the odds of us decrypting a random phone number ?
coral ibex
Have we tried sending a message through that message media service?
digital radish
"that was not the key what the fuck did you do" - vedal
digital radish
Have we tried sending a message through that message media service?
wanna pay 50 euros
native maple
Have we tried sending a message through that message media service?
it's not free it seems
coral ibex
Oh
timid swift
You don't even want to know how often I normalize documents lmao. It keeps boiling back, especially new fun fonts.
digital radish
okay
lets get back on topic
numbers 2
the 1st step has do do with 256bit binary
azure oyster
"that was not the key what the fuck did you do" - vedal
did he actually say this
native maple
but if we decrypt the first step might be 128bit thats what we talked about earlier
digital radish
right
but i think this is actually the other way around
anyone has the spectorgramf a fkkefse
a gergkwegjsew
wefweg
azure oyster
you've probably already thought of this, but have you tried putting the phone number into the JS code
native maple
you good ? use the stroke check on the website
native maple
you've probably already thought of this, but have you tried putting the phone nu...
not free
azure oyster
if the number is relevant, maybe it will only give a hint if we use the code with it
digital radish
sotkr
timid swift
That phone number belongs to the arg. We're not doxing anyone. It's a hard lead. This isn't like that pizza place in that big arg
digital radish
okay
native maple
digital radish
thank you
so
the reason i say the 1st step is the 1st
its because its not
the 2nd step is the first
native maple
yes
native maple
tequila
digital radish
kekekakakaka
dapper wraith
sometimes I question my sanity by reading darkeew's messages 
timid swift
as we discussed before, it could be because first step is the first encryption step, so it'd be the second decryption step
digital radish
you should worry about my sanity
timid swift
we are, trust
digital radish
im about to burn 71 neuro plushies
azure oyster
response por favor
azure oyster
if the number *is* relevant, maybe it will only give a hint if we use the code w...
to this
dapper wraith
as we discussed before, it could be because first step is the first encryption s...
the fact that it mentions that the 128 bit steps results in the numbers 2 description might support that idea
digital radish
who the fuck made the horrible python script
like
TypeError: can only concatenate str (not "int") to str
imagine
being this bad
to not know what this is
native maple
so if we do 256 and 128 the output goes down to a 112 length
digital radish
1bac0fdd0d0e0cde
dapper wraith
so if we do 256 and 128 the output goes down to a 112 length
I don't follow? why does it get smaller here?
dapper wraith
but the output of AES is as long as it's input isn't it? (aside from padding)
native maple
mayb i got too many null byte ?
timid swift
Oh, so it's clippermi
azure oyster
nice
timid swift
dark, you know about all that nice horizontal space in chat right?
jaunty finch
Oh, so it's clippermi <:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100>
wdym?
native maple
first name who?
jaunty finch
I put that everywhere because I'm too lazy to make up a nickname xd
timid swift
wdym?
It's a meme about one of the clippers here on the discord, I'm not gonna reveal who it is just cause it's more funny that way
no relation to you :p
jaunty finch
okay :D
digital radish
Input: 201
Reversed Input: 1759031009924
Matching Letters: 1bac0f100ccde
Length: 13
Input: 1321
Reversed Input: 17590315940924
Matching Letters: 1bac0f1ace0cde
Length: 14
Input: 5831
Reversed Input: 17590356737924
Matching Letters: 1bac0fa6bfbcde
Length: 14
Input: 723
Reversed Input: 1759032467924
Matching Letters: 1bac0fde6bcde
Length: 13
Input: 743
Reversed Input: 1759032557924
Matching Letters: 1bac0fdaabcde
Length: 13
Input: 4913
Reversed Input: 17590368887924
Matching Letters: 1bac0f6888bcde
Length: 14
Input: 879
Reversed Input: 1759039406924
Matching Letters: 1bac0fce06cde
Length: 13
Input: 875
Reversed Input: 1759037606924
Matching Letters: 1bac0fb606cde
Length: 13
Input: 2145
Reversed Input: 17590343309924
Matching Letters: 1bac0feff0ccde
Length: 14
Input: 716
Reversed Input: 1758993677924
Matching Letters: 1ba8ccf6bbcde
Length: 13
Input: 906
Reversed Input: 1758989186924
Matching Letters: 1ba8c8c186cde
Length: 13
Input: 4156
Reversed Input: 17589938327924
Matching Letters: 1ba8ccf8fdbcde
Length: 14
the numbers in numbers 2 are useless
native maple
horizontal space 
timid swift
Dark, do you need a cookie or something. Maybe a spreadsheet? lel
native maple
what if you remove the spaces between groups
20113215831 :
175903567735985009924
1bad0fa6bbfad8a00ddce
21
7237434913:
17590368924603467924
1bad0f68dce60fe6bdce
20
8798752145:
17590343360659406924
1bad0feff606ade06dce
20
7169064156:
17589938330193677924
1ba8ddf8ff01df6bbdce
20
dapper wraith
horizontal space <:despair:1088679725075005482>
maybe this is finally the reason to tilt my monitor sideways again
native maple
201132158317237434913:
1759036892460351667735985009924
1bad0f68dce60fa166bbfad8a00ddce
31
87987521457169064156:
175899383301937253360659406924
1ba8ddf8ff01dfbcaff606ade06dce
30
digital radish
Input: 13215831491321454156
Reversed Input: 175899383663359892767735940924
Matching Letters: 1ba8ccf8f66ffac8cdb6bbface0cde
Length: 30
Input: 201723743879875716906
Reversed Input: 1758989193728659452603512009924
Matching Letters: 1ba8c8c1cfbd86acead60fa1d00ccde
Length: 31
timid swift
this is becoming a numbers weather station
native maple
timid swift
what are we checking them for?
digital radish
words
coral ibex
Could syllables refer to binary where a syllable being 0/1?
timid swift
It could be anything until otherwise proven
digital radish
sylabbles
wispy plinth
who tag me here
digital radish
me
read the ping
Input: 596352
Reversed Input: 1758992047037924
Matching Letters: 1ba8ccd0eb0fbcde
Length: 16
201+1321+5831+723+743+4913+879+875+2145+716+906+4156+572943
timid swift
who tag me here
We're trying to determine if we're on the right track or if we're about to bother someone.
I personally don't believe the phone number could be some random person's phone number -- the way it was decrypted leaves too much evidence that it's part of the ARG. AES decryption doesn't just magically spit our random data, much less a phone number.
Even so some, and I gotta say fair concern, are wondering if we should ask Vedal for advice so we don't accidentally bother someone.
Also, dark, I still have no idea what all the numbers you post mean :p
austere sun
i think it is useless to match numbers 2 digit dump to anything, its primary purpose was likely just to point to numbers 1 key cipher and that's all
eternal timber
Could syllables refer to binary where a syllable being 0/1?
I was thinking that since most words have one or two syllables in numbers 2
digital radish
Input: 596352
Reversed Input: 1758992047037924
Matching Letters: 17e8bbf0470d7bf4
Length: 16
omg
nothing
timid swift
i think it is useless to match numbers 2 digit dump to anything, its primary pur...
I think the same, but we gotta try stuff. Like the letter substitution was such a reach.
austere sun
if you want to thoroughly try, bruteforce aes 128 and then aes 256, it's only 2^384
timid swift
and then passing it to the decryption algorithm as UTF8 instead of hexadecimal?? man.. I would've never gotten there
austere sun
and then passing it to the decryption algorithm as UTF8 instead of hexadecimal??...
i think people have been doing that day 2
actually if we got bred to try letter substitution back then it would've been solved already
the only problem with that was that the number is only 6 digits, but abcdefg is 7 letters
timid swift
It's always that one last thing
wooden bobcat
message could not be loaded
eternal timber
Yeah I think that was our issue with numbers 1 - we had the solution but we had no way of confirming it or knowing what to further do with it
digital radish
timid swift
but substituting the numbers for letters that very specific way? Did we ever try that?
eternal timber
Or well not an issue it's a given, we were just missing some key info I guess
You could say we did 1+1, we didn't do 1+2
timid swift
once able to focus in on that one interpretation of the other instructions, the substitution was easier to find. Even then it was a (welcome) outsider who found it 
austere sun
but substituting the numbers for letters that very specific way? Did we ever try...
no, becuase there is no reason to think 6 digits would match 7 letters.
it could've been any 6 letters.
there is no logic to it other than "matching all the letters"
distant girder
as we said in the first week, we were overlooking something rather simple 
timid swift
yes, it's such a reach. It's evidence that we gotta try the divergent
austere sun
you could even say neuro divergent
ahah lmao, insanity
timid swift
like, is "Matching all the letters" the only hint for "this step is not in the right order, so after you've done all the following steps, replace the numbers 572943 with ABCDEF (G means nothing), oh by the way it must be lowercase letters and we didn't give you lyric captions"?
austere sun
numbers doc moved to closed, but a solution wasn't even posted there. what's with you people
coral ibex
numbers doc moved to closed, but a solution wasn't even posted there. what's wit...
Solutions at the bottom?
feral forge
<@250735862734782464> congratulations
who has summoned meow
native maple
it's only the solution for the description
austere sun
why is the solution in the bottom
native maple
bread
austere sun
who has summoned meow
congratulations, you've almost seen the future
feral forge
lol
native maple
everything we did day one was correct x)
feral forge
"everything"
austere sun
enigma machine has solution in the middle, malbolge doesn't even have a solution section, neither does supernatural human
stop preaching consistency when there isn't any. i am moving solution to the top and no one dare move it back
native maple
i put solution at the top but someone moved it
timid swift
What's wrong with the solution at the bottom and a link to the solution at the top?
native maple
idk
austere sun
because it is completely unintuitive and unnecessary
timid swift
Wouldn't it be more untuitive to have it out of cronological order?
You start a story at the start, and finish at the conclusion
austere sun
but no other part of the doc is in chronological order wdyem
timid swift
oh, so let's make it even more unorderly, then, is it?
austere sun
no, put what matters at the top and the 0.01% that wants to see analysis and unsuccessful attempts can scroll down to relevant section or ctrl+f
timid swift
I don't think we're gonna agree on this
native maple
nobody read the docs anyway it's just for posterity sake to make sure we have a trace of what was found
timid swift
also, we've been designating CLOSED and SOLVED to have two different meanings. Let's not conflate the two now
native maple
it's because we have troll stuff that isnt solved just found out to be trolls
red brook
chronological with table of contents with links at the top is the best format IMO
timid swift
and luckily for us, google docs already puts a table of content at the sidebar
red brook
oh right
timid swift
at least when headers are used right
timid swift
which they definitely are not ever always
red brook
google docs is definitely not the optimal tool for this
timid swift
It's a good tool for collaboration, especially among people of such a wide range of skills and preferences
everybody kinda hates it, but everyone knows how it works
I would've preferred tiny wiki-like articles in Obsidian, some would've preferred something with git, heck, probably someone might've preferred jira tickets
it's a little like democracy when you think about it -- it kinda sucks, but it's for the best ok, sorry, no more politics
Meanwhile, I'm still trying to figure out how I would've made the substitution reach. Like it's so far, what the hecc
native maple
we tried substitution at the start but as you saw since one letter was left alone we tought it was incorrect
timid swift
yes. For G to be cut off and it then not be hexadecimal
timid swift
that's completely ignored in the solution, right?
austere sun
no, doesn't add another line mean add another "1", and the thing with finding all the numbers
amarok, aren't you the one that told me this, what is this
native maple
what im saying is in 572943 there isn't already a 1, so the keword "another" is kinda ignored
timid swift
awchually
what if it's telling us to run another number through the algorithm, and THAT number has a 1? We're still looking for the other key hinted in the spectrogram, right?
native maple
no it's about the solution we found
timid swift
what if there's another that can be run through it as well?
native maple
thats not out of the question
austere sun
the starting number needs to be 22 digits long if you want to get 32 characters on output, it's basically impossible to guess which it could be
crimson tendonBOT
@austere sun has leveled up! (11 ➜ 12)
native maple
yea i think we want to use fibonnaci to generate large numbers
austere sun
integers that give 22 digit long fibs, that's all
native maple
any that give 32 long ?
timid swift
22
austere sun
32 digits
red brook
another doesn't make sense
it also says "add another six" when there is no six there
timid swift
we could try those as keys for Numbers II and SoundCloud descriptions. The 22 digit ones should be run through the Numbers (one) algorithm.
austere sun
so we're not doing aes 128 first?
timid swift
oh, you're right. There are two options here. Either it's a sequence, or it's stand alone.
this is why I always get confused. There are so many loose threads to pull at
native maple
can try the key from number 1 for 128
1500520536206896083277:
17590385252675987167675675130924
1bad0f8acac6bad8b16b6ba6ba1f0dce
32
2427893228399975082453:
17590366983121099227498438179924
1bad0f66d8f1c10ddccbed8ef81bddce
32
3928413764606871165730:
17589911154698087304974312219924
1ba8dd111ae6d808bf0edbef1cc1ddce
32
6356306993006846248183:
17590327138820087512491668417924
1bad0fcb1f88c008ba1ced1668e1bdce
32
16130531424904581415797907386349:
161f0af1eced0ea81e1abdbd0bf86fed
32
26099748102093884802012313146549:
c60ddbe810c0df88e80c01cf1f1e6aed
32
42230279526998466217810220532898:
eccf0cbdac6dd8e66c1b810cc0afc8d8
32
68330027629092351019822533679447:
68ff00cb6cd0dcfa101d8ccaff6bdeeb
32
austere sun
what are we looking for? decoded text? magic numbers?
native maple
the other one gave plain text so that for now
austere sun
can try the key from number 1 for 128
for this, 32 digit long fibs nothing then
do i match all letters to 572943? or maybe match them to key?
matching 22 digits to 572943 gives nothing either
native maple
i make all of them matche letter yes in case it needs it
austere sun
but yeah, basically nothing, even with my fake binwalk.
as one would reasonably expect.
numbers 2 probably has it's own cipher, evidenced by cipher.numbers2.array() and not just numbers2.array()
the only thing is, there is even less information to extract cipher from than before because half of lyrics are either clearly irrelevant or are for numbers 1 cipher
reef spruce
Does the fact it says “.array” mean anything?
It didn’t include the array part when referring to numbers 1.
coral ibex
Does the fact it says “.array” mean anything?
I think it just refers to the numbers we got from the video
The 201 1321...
native maple
tried a bunch of combo but no luck yea
austere sun
i just thought about something stupid, but since there's apparently pretty good japanese in psv, and alex is the one teaching vedal japanese pronunciation, maybe alex knows something related
native maple
last time Alex showed up saying he has knowledge about music so people started doing music theory but it led nowhere
also can't forget about the D incident
austere sun
last time alex showed up #1112082183235047506 message on world.execute(me)
how to start reaching even harder
timid swift
Honestly, that line makes me think that the puppet master is reading this thread and is inventing the story as they go along, inserting a healthy dose of our fan theories :p
azure oyster
Honestly, that line makes me think that the puppet master is reading this thread...
exactly what haachama did, actually
timid swift
It's a clue! :schizo:
eager flower
congrats on making progress everyone, i don’t talk much here at all because math and cryptography and stuff goes way over my head. i’m just here for lore and music, but if anything comes up related to music theory i’m willing to jump in!
also i think i saw someone mentioning trying to make a cover of numbers or i don’t want to be an engineer. if whoever it was finishes that, could you send me the base files if possible? i was trying to transcribe engineer by ear and it went so poorly i shut down synthv and have not opened it since
eager flower
omg do you have the vsq or midi?
azure oyster
i have an flp and i can try to export it to midi
eager flower
i would appreciate that so much! i’m going away this week and need something to work on during the 12 hour car ride
timid swift
what'cha gonna do with it?
azure oyster
i should note that i am a perfectionist though so i will probably continue finding little errors in this and fixing them
eager flower
i wanted to try covering it myself with eleanor forte partly to figure out whether it’s her voice or not. mostly for my own curiosity and also because every one of these songs is an absolute BANGER
eager flower
i should note that i am a perfectionist though so i will probably continue findi...
that’s such a mood, even with “finished” covers i find myself finding little flaws no one else sees
azure oyster
for example, i'm pretty sure there are a few chords what i have missed or something
eager flower
i don’t want to derail the arg discussion too much more, but i get what you mean. like i said, i gave up trying to find the chords myself cause i kept finding things i missed. guess that’s part of the arg experience tho
azure oyster
here ya go
aw, it seems it didn't include the time signature changes
i wonder whether i can include those
honest harness
can't wait to unlock the schizo merch at the end of the ARG
full version songs in complete neuro ARG album with the long awaited I think I saw a ghost drop
eager flower
here ya go
thank you! also my dms should be open if you ever want to talk about vocal synth stuff! and i think even if the time signatures were included, synthv fucks them up half the time, at least on my mac
azure oyster
ah, okey
warped torrent
also i think i saw someone mentioning trying to make a cover of numbers or i don...
eager flower
ah! i did see that too, thank you! miku’s english sounds so clear, is this her english bank?
rocky barn
Have we tried sending save me to the number per WhatsApp?
warped torrent
i.e., notes are broken down into tiny chunks
timid swift
Have we tried sending save me to the number per WhatsApp?
if it's been tried, it hasn't been documented. I'd do it myself, but I chose to live a life that whatsapp apparently does not agree with.
apparently i MUST have a smartphone, tablet is not good enough. Thanks for not being weird about it, telegram
golden mirage
WTF I missed that 
Nice shoutout
rocky barn
if it's been tried, it hasn't been documented. I'd do it myself, but I chose to ...
You could try running WhatsApp in bluestacks
timid swift
yeah but.. that's.. why can't they just be nice
rocky barn
It's owned by meta, what do you expect?
eternal timber
The neurogram number saw my message 💀 time to apologize profusely for disturbing them with a random thing related to the arg
timid swift
It's owned by meta, what do you expect?
uninstalls immediately.
eternal timber
Or well just not bother them anymore I guess 
ahhhhh I thought it was a clue
timid swift
The neurogram number saw my message 💀 time to apologize profusely for disturbin...
How long did it take until they saw it?
eternal timber
Idk, didn't check it for a while
native maple
waiting for a response 
timid swift
Idk, didn't check it for a while
right, but not immediately?
eternal timber
Yup
native maple
can't check the read time like in whatsapp ?
eternal timber
can't check the read time like in whatsapp ?
Not as far as I know but I'm not a big telegram user
timid swift
not that i think it'll work any better, but ya' know
native maple
the telegram might just have been created by a previous owner/renter of the number (idk if thats how it works)
eager flower
i.e., notes are broken down into tiny chunks
ah that’s alright, i think i’ll have my hands full with numbers for a while anyways but really it sounds great, miku english always sounds like she has rocks in her mouth when i use her
timid swift
alright, they saw my message after less than a minute, but not immediately
and then i tabbed out to write that and now my message is gone? Is that normal telegram behaviour?
eternal timber
Oh really... interesting. I wonder if it's actually related to the arg or not now lmao
native maple
and then i tabbed out to write that and now my message is gone? Is that normal t...
no ??
native maple
they might have deleted the convo
austere sun
you can delete chat log for both users on telegram
eternal timber
This makes me think it's an actual person in which case rip
timid swift
Interesting
austere sun
you are not worthy of a chat log, bread
timid swift
eternal timber
I haven't apologized yet though
native maple
if(username == "BreadTh") TelegramChat.delete()
eternal timber
It's one of those things where if it's a regular person I want to clarify the situation but I also don't want to bother them any further
But if it's related to the ARG... idk maybe we'll get more clues
azure oyster
again, i suggest: have we tried plugging the phone number into the JS code
native maple
you can get a free trial but eeeh
timid swift
again, i suggest: have we tried plugging the phone number into the JS code
Yes, i thought about that too. But what i come back to is.. how will it be different from a regular SMS?
plus I don't have a (sending) phone number that'll work with that service
native maple
idk maybe they add headers to it ? but i don't think so and im lazy to read the documentation
timid swift
Could just be to indicate it's a phone number, nothing else. But I'm not saying you're wrong. We should try it
austere sun
how else would it be identified as a phone number though?
azure oyster
maybe it's an automated response and it only responds when the message is sent from the JS code
native maple
we don't have any response
azure oyster
... yes, that lines up with what i said
austere sun
actually i think telegram and whatsapp have been specifically set up so that people dont have to spend money on international sms
but if you have 50 euros ready, go ahead
native maple
yea
eternal timber
50 neuros
timid swift
surely there's someone br*tish here who can run some JS
the sending service takes +44 numbers
native maple
vedal already don't want us to spend money on neuro so if we start buying an API just to send SMS he gonna scream at us
timid swift
yes, it does feel kinda pay to win
eternal timber
Well if I get a reply to my "save me..." message and I'm not in the middle of something or sleeping I'll share it here, other than that... I guess we'll wait and see?
Vedal did say "This shit stretches into the past and future" so maybe we'll have things get more clarified over time - I don't mean stop searching, I mean - don't get dissuaded and be patient 😤
native maple
also.. we might just not get a response since it would mean they would have to send a SMS which might cost money, it might just be set up as a reciever and trigger
warped torrent
ah that’s alright, i think i’ll have my hands full with numbers for a while anyw...
you need to spend time doing the extra tuning; play around with the parameters, splitting the notes, and experimenting with phonetics
eternal timber
also.. we might just not get a response since it would mean they would have to s...
I was also thinking that, like typing in the correct thing would auto-release a video or a music track on the soundcloud. But haven't seen any of those yet
timid swift
Did anyone else try writing something else than "save me..." to the telegram, or was that just me?
native maple
someone said yo i think
digital radish
gleaming nymph
save yourself
timid swift
or some of the cleartexts of the other challanges, like the ANEXITY text, or the malbolge result
eager flower
you need to spend time doing the extra tuning; play around with the parameters, ...
yeah makes sense, i just don’t have the patience or the actual knowledge of the vocaloid engine itself lmao, i think i got rin sounding halfway decent once and was like “good enough”. the ui of vocaloid 4 is not my favorite
timid swift
mabloge
azure oyster
no one wrote mabloge
timid swift
i did just now
azure oyster
invalid
native maple
maybe they delete the convo on telegram because it wasn't the correct message to send 
timid swift
yes, that's what I thought too, but darkeew also sent conversational messages
unless yo are you scared to answer was the correct key all along
eternal timber
warped torrent
blink at this user
eternal timber
Vibrate at this user Does two lines mean read in telegram? isn't it like... one line sent on my end, another line recieved, blue when it's read?
native maple
i think yea
eternal timber
Though I'm thrown off by white lines for Darkeew
austere sun
2 lines any colour mean read in telegram, the blue white is whatsapp thing
digital radish
<@452436342841016341> Did your message get read?
they're too scared
native maple
We might just need to wait and try sending texting during stream
wicked sapphire
eternal timber
Or maybe it'll take a while for it to compose a reply (like during a... stream? video release? lunar eclipse?)
hollow flare
where did you get this
jaunty finch
Have we tried sending save me to the number per WhatsApp?
yes, no answer
stop
update
steady fossil
where did you get this
audacity, it has a spectrogram view
warped torrent
inb4 it's literally just a random guy and they got harrassed by a bunch of strangers
hollow flare
audacity, it has a spectrogram view
no
hollow flare
is it part of the video or nah
jaunty finch
steady fossil
no
it's a spectrogram of the audio during the time where the key generation was shown
hollow flare
it's a spectrogram of the audio during the time where the key generation was sho...
ok thanks
native maple
time to calculate the odds of finding a random guy phone frome a encrypted Base64 found in an ARG
steady fossil
ok thanks
if you listen closely you can even hear it, it's those chirping sounds in the background
inland spindle
hi i'm new here but i've got a question about that phone number, whether anyone's second or latter message has been read? if no does it mean each person has only one chance?
crimson tendonBOT
@inland spindle has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)
native maple
message been read some reaction happened but no answer
quaint reef
Would be funny if the number belonged to someone vedal doesn't like and we are unknowingly harrassing them
hollow flare
Maybe we need to fail?
new mille song if fire 🔥🔥🔥
jaunty finch
https://ibb.co/pbJ3pq1
the question is why there is a message destruction timer...
jaunty finch
Wait, a contact has a name in whatsapp
coral ibex
the question is why there is a message destruction timer...
They manually set it?
jaunty finch
They manually set it?
yea
native maple
i think you need to be friend to get more info on their account ?
native maple
JACK
jaunty finch
it was not displayed before
native maple
it's jack vedal guys
eternal timber
new mille song if fire 🔥🔥🔥
world.execute(neuro)
rocky barn
Vedals real name confirmed
jaunty finch
doxing vedal was not part of our plans
rocky barn
But of his apparently
jaunty finch
Vedals real name confirmed
it has already been mentioned in the articles
native maple
it wasn't a meme he actually is called Jack
quaint reef
He leaked it a while ago on his website
Or rather he had his name there before neuro was a thing
rocky barn
So it's save to assume the whatsapp is connected to the arg
jaunty finch
Okay, so the number exactly is associated with the ARG. I'll assume that it's really worth calling during the stream
native maple
aint no way he actually gave his #
austere sun
so what, are people getting filtered out by having their chats deleted, and only chosen ones remain
coral ibex
aint no way he actually gave his #
It could be a burner phone?
quaint reef
It's probably a burner
native maple
i do see a theme, _neurosama and ~JACK
native maple
It could be a burner phone?
yea for sure
jaunty finch
i do see a theme, _neurosama and ~JACK
~ symbol seems to write whatsapp itself, but I can't be 100% sure
digital radish
it didnt have a name before
native maple
so why did _neurosama try to ask JACK to save her
native maple
jaunty finch
austere sun
i hate it if it is
jaunty finch
when is the vedal's onlyfans lore arc?
eternal timber
Evil Neuro death metal album on soundcloud arc when
native maple
wait can we check some socials for ~jack maybe ? or is ~ not a valid char for most username
jaunty finch
wait can we check some socials for ~jack maybe ? or is ~ not a valid char for mo...
The ~ symbol is not bound and is written by the application itself, it displays the name specified by the user himself,
proof: https://ibb.co/Bfw832D
austere sun
no way you're believing this right? it's not even ~jack, it's separated by space like ~ jack
native maple
good to know so it's just a custom display name
crimson tendonBOT
@native maple has leveled up! (14 ➜ 15)
jaunty finch
what if Vedal collects a database of phone numbers for spam xd
native maple
abandoned archive mailing list 
jaunty finch
abandoned archive mailing list <:vedalCorpa:1117585361367998516>
What if the ARG is one big campaign before the game comes out
austere sun
it doesn't say jack for me. i think you're lying somewhere.
but it does say that messages to this user will be deletd after 24 hours.
(hopefully i haven't doxxed myself in the process of looking this up)
jaunty finch
it doesn't say jack for me. i think you're lying somewhere.
but it does say tha...
This is most likely a privacy setting, or a feature of Whatsapp.
native maple
but how would you bypass the setting then ?
coral ibex
it doesn't say jack for me. i think you're lying somewhere.
but it does say tha...
I would check but I don't want to potentially dox myself lol
jaunty finch
but how would you bypass the setting then ?
maybe it was the self-destruct time setting that contributed to this? in any case i can open this, conventionally, on the screen demonstration, LOL
But I don't have the photoshop skills to fake a screenshot, ahaha
austere sun
why would it be jack only on whatsapp then. what special privileges whatsapp has over telegram or regular sms
jaunty finch
idk
timid swift
isn't it just a username you enter in whatsapp? or am i missing something here
austere sun
for you contact's name, the name you've set appears above the number. for non-contacts it shows their username with a tilda below the phone number.
for me it just shows +44 ... and under it again +44 ...
timid swift
so ~JACK is the username, no?
timid swift
Eh, I trust you. It would be nice if we could reproduce it tho
austere sun
JACK is the username, no tilda.
i would like to see it on discord. do it
jaunty finch
xd
coral ibex
Poor bread
timid swift
puppet master's got a vendetta on me QQ Now I know who it is (:<
digital radish
coral ibex
puppet master's got a vendetta on me QQ Now I know who it is (:<
Ur getting silenced for the knowledge you know lol
timid swift
Ok, I'll say it's------
austere sun
try deleting the contact name
timid moth
if you saved the number in your contacts with a name already, you wont see the original whatsapp username
jaunty finch
In any case, it is better to confirm that it is not photoshopped (I do not know why it is uploaded as Shorts)
timid swift
cause it was short. And phone shaped.
jaunty finch
probably also the fact that it is vertical, but okay, that's not important and goes beyond the topic
austere sun
wait, i just deleted the contact from telegram chat and it now says aaron lie what
did telegram forward me to some random person
jaunty finch
wait, i just deleted the contact from telegram chat and it now says aaron lie <:...
it was originally written that way
At least when I checked it
native maple
i don't see why someone would fake something like that anyway
timid swift
don't you assign your own names to contacts on telegram?
austere sun
don't you assign your own names to contacts on telegram?
yeah, but i deleted the contact thinking maybe i can add contact somewhere else without a name, but now i am in empty chat with some aaron lie
timid swift
someone you never talked to before? lel
native maple
aaron is a lie
jaunty finch
At least when I checked it
at 17:32 (UTC+3, Moscow time), the name of the contact in Telegram was Aaron Lie
proof in the form of messages sent (sorry for the Russian language, content does not matter): https://ibb.co/7pm4Xv6
timid swift
I'm not really following
native maple
so it probably was this and then vedal remenbered telegram exist so he loged in and changed the username
timid moth
wait, is the username different now on telegram?
native maple
wait are we talking about telegram or whatsapp im lost
jaunty finch
wait are we talking about telegram or whatsapp im lost
we seem to talk about everything and a little bit at a time
vapid token
Maybe we need to fail?
What if we need to repeat this code with a phone number
timid swift
a little bit of everything, all of the time
timid moth
wait are we talking about telegram or whatsapp im lost
the name is JACK on whatsapp, and the name was aaron lie on telegram i think
native maple
i aaron encrypted maybe ?
timid swift
but how do you see names on telegram? Don't you assign your own names to contacts?
jaunty finch
but how do you see names on telegram? Don't you assign your own names to contact...
(without space) t.me/ +447537130663
timid swift
oh duh, i deleted the contact too trying to get that to work. Can confirm it says Aaron Lie
jaunty finch
Oops, I misunderstood the question. I think I need English courses.
...i need have to stop trusting the translator
coral ibex
Could "Aaron lie" be an anagram?
I kinda doubt it imo since this might be a whole red herring
native maple
also did anyone in the UK sent an actual sms ?
timid swift
it's also possible that it's a former phonenumber owner's name :s
jaunty finch
aaron lie just a vedal's real name, we can google it and get https://ibb.co/nmM0jrQ XDDDDD
native maple
seems to match
austere sun
if it is a burner phone, it is quite possible actually that the telegram and whatsapp have come pre-set up with names
jaunty finch
seems to match <:Clueless:1096203320001040545>
it doesn't look like a femboy turtle
maybe we need to use OSINT to find some other Aaron Lie's account where there will already be a clue
but I'm more inclined to the theory of a call during a stream to trigger something
native maple
no doxxing x)
timid swift
ye, looking into it might be worthwhile, but let's keep a lid on it before sharing with everyone until we're sure it's related
timid moth
Could "Aaron lie" be an anagram?
tried to run it through an anagram checker, these are all the words it came up with
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859104023562027019/1121884867748184217/anagram_aaron_lie.txt
using only dictionary words
timid swift
https://ingesanagram.com/ also comes up with Elianora
quaint reef
Areola in
jaunty finch
I will assume that I was able to see the contact's name in Whatsapp because the account owner had set up self-destructing messages, Whatsapp thought it was the beginning of a conversation and loosened the privacy settings.
Or the account owner accidentally added me to the contacts, which caused the privacy settings to be loosened.
I think the Whatsapp topic can be closed for now. I'll try to keep an eye out for possible name changes.
timid swift
or at least the name thing probably can
austere sun
shouldnt you be anagramming for another name rather than dictionary words.
the whatsapp username was probably always there, no one just looked before
timid moth
shouldnt you be anagramming for another name rather than dictionary words.
the...
truth is i could not find an anagram solver that also has name support
native maple
we can focus on the other video we got study and number II, are we sure nothing is unsolved in study ?
timid swift
the phone number is techincally in study
native maple
Besides that tho ? I didn't touch study at all
timid swift
no, i don't think we have any warm leads in study other than that. It'd have to be something we missed then
austere sun
nothing else in study.
we can try solving psv i think no one even went through brightened frames, but if there isn't anything obvious there is probably nothing.
it's on my mind to go through with opencv myself, but that's literally gigabytes of frames and i keep putting it off. i wish darkeew shared his algorithm he used for study
coral ibex
Would numbers 2 have the 256 bit and the 128 bit encryption, or just 128 (according to the spectrogram)?
dapper wraith
one theory is that it's first round 256bit into second round 128
coral ibex
Im thinking maybe the 256 [binary] would be related to that sequence from numbers 2, but I'm not sure how it'll relate
native maple
oh you mean binary refers to the binary we see on video
coral ibex
Yeah
coral ibex
WOAH
timid swift
could you link the cyberchef?
native maple
yes
austere sun
the what, the what sister
timid swift
full giant recipe link
coral ibex
YOOOOOOO
austere sun
whats the deal with sister
native maple
sister doesn't answer phone
austere sun
but those are calls, not messages
also damn, i guess static-sama and study-sama confirmed 2 characters
jaunty finch
she's not answering my calls
just like the number that we decrypted XD
timid swift
I don't even remember where that binary is from
coral ibex
genius idea to use the binary <@253011259379810306>
Tyty
austere sun
oh wait arent those neuros
native maple
binary is from the counting neuros dancing
austere sun
ah fuck i was so close. i was even thinking getting them inverted. but i didn't
timid swift
what seriously
I can't believe that absolutely lovely but also batshit insane interpretation was right
native maple
yea i tried them from bottom up and the first one was the actual good one
native maple
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
need 128 now
austere sun
need 128 now
bruteforce time
maybe i can appropriate bred's rust code for this knowing absolutely no rust
native maple
i tried f(26) passed througth algorithm
digital radish
our second one is decoding the first
okay
i do have an idea
all the numbers in numbers 2 + 572943
right
the start from x end with y may come in handy now
native maple
maybe there is a clue in the lyrics of i don't want to be an engineer ?
native maple
???
coral ibex
aras hjew fes
Are u good?
native maple
stroke check
rocky barn
Great Job!
open nymph
probably solution is video public void? the secret number combining of number1 and number2
idk
digital radish
n = "2" + n
n += "9"
n += "1"
n = str(int(n) * 5)
n += "6"
n = n[::-1]
n = n.replace('2', '3')
n = str(int(n) * 9)
n += "2"
n += "4"
n = "17" + n
return n
def match_all_letters(s: str) -> str:
alph = 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz'
numbers = '579243'
tr_set = str.maketrans(numbers, alph[:len(numbers)])
return s.translate(tr_set)```change 579243 to 572943
sorry i messed that up
digital radish
wasnt gonna use that anyways
native maple
public static void main(String[] args) {
String str = "121393";
str = numbers1(str);
System.out.println(str);
str = letters(str);
System.out.println(str);
System.out.println(str.length());
}
public static String numbers1(String str) {
str = "2" + str;
str += "91";
str = String.valueOf(new BigInteger(str).multiply(BigInteger.valueOf(5)) );
str += "6";
str = new StringBuilder(str).reverse().toString();
str = str.replaceAll("2", "3");
str = String.valueOf(new BigInteger(str).multiply(BigInteger.valueOf(9)) );
str = "17"+str+"24";
return str;
}
public static String letters(String str) {
str = str.replaceAll("5","a");
str = str.replaceAll("7","b");
str = str.replaceAll("2","c");
str = str.replaceAll("9","d");
str = str.replaceAll("4","e");
str = str.replaceAll("3","f");
return str;
}
for java users
timid swift
for java users with python variable names :p
native maple
hey var names are var names :p
open nymph
for(int i =2; i <= numbers2.length; i++){ numbers2[i] += numbers1(secret number); } maybe?
native maple
vedal waking up to us solving everything we can do it guys quick
uneven rune
Oh god the sigil ARG
timid swift
solved with the power of Aaron Lie
jaunty finch
solved with the power of JACK
timid swift
powerjack
jaunty finch
aaron jack
digital radish
17e8bbf0470d7bf4
native maple
she never came home huh
jaunty finch
plot twist: missing sister was stuffed into a neuro-sama body and forced to stream
coral ibex
we're fucked
We got this darkeew
digital radish
send the number
native maple
oh god the first few lyrics of numbers make so much sense nooooow "i"m scared to let you go"
+447537130663
native maple
yup i tried first
digital radish
thought 130663 could give us smt
wait
waitwait
are you sure its fully decoded
timid moth
what do you mean?
digital radish
its throwing out gang signs at the end
timid moth
i mean yea, but what if we need to continue with a different cipher?
native maple
it's padding
digital radish
Start from X. End with Y. Remove XY + odd one out
timid moth
wait, we're talking about this, right?
digital radish
Start from X. End with Y. Remove XY + odd one out
this is the clue for our next key
native maple
just change the mode to ECB instead of ECB/nopadding it clear it
timid moth
does remove XY + odd one out mean remove XY and remove odd one out, or remove XY and add odd one out?
gritty blaze
okay so we starting to understand the lore
the sister sending the sms with "help me"
timid moth
just change the mode to ECB instead of ECB/nopadding it clear it
i dont mean the cr spam at the end, i mean the base64 string after the cleartext
native maple
this is just step 2
timid moth
i'm confused now
dapper wraith
i'm confused now <:catdespair:1087521982817509426>
look at the spectogram on the first page. we did step 1 now we need step 2 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YaYAVWfOIgxDCFRkKlu4sp_yvYKKA4Qqydi_kddYGJE/edit
native maple
we got a clue on the newest video that there is 2 steps for this encrypted text, first step is AES 256 [binary] which we figured out, second step is 128 AES which is the encrypted text left
timid moth
nvrm yea im with you, sorry
native maple
it's fine
timid moth
also, maybe dumb question, but what are the different modes on AES?
dapper wraith
next time we attempt to bruteforce it we should search for ... instead of just utf8 decode. seems like every cleartext we find contains it at least once
native maple
true 
timid swift
also, maybe dumb question, but what are the different modes on AES?
modes ||AES modes are so different they might as well just all be called by different names without the AES connection.||
native maple
the only one that matter is ECB since it's the easiest no IV needed
timid swift
well, until tutel switches things up
timid swift
worth a shot
austere sun
now only syllables are left unsolved basically. how to turn syllables into 16 byte keys
native maple
so was the "save me" from the little sister ?
timid swift
that seems to be the running theory
dapper wraith
personally I though that we sent it to our sister. since the code is about sending a SMS not receiving one
timid moth
now only syllables are left unsolved basically. how to turn syllables into 16 by...
sorry for dumb question, but what do we need the syllables for?
austere sun
why is the older sister named JACK or Aaron Lie
native maple
she sold her phone to pay for studies
jaunty finch
sister with a secret
tawdry narwhal
sorry for dumb question, but what do we need the syllables for?
decoding the second part of the code
maybe
native maple
second part of the code need a key of 16 length
timid moth
okay but why exactly the syllables?
native maple
we just need to search everywhere
timid moth
the docs just got filled with syllable counts one day with no real explanation
native maple
tawdry narwhal
the docs just got filled with syllable counts one day with no real explanation
numbers II video mentions syllables
when that dropped, we started counting
timid moth
i get that part, but it didnt really mention anything to do with them, right?
it just seems like syllables, make it work, yeah just means 'syllable, make it rhyme, yea' to me
austere sun
it says "make it work" just git gud and make it work
fast path
holy no way
actual progress?
timid swift
it's as crazy as any other theory. It shouldn't be hyperfixated on and it shouldn't be forgotten
timid swift
holy no way
actual progress?
not just once but twice! (check the timeline)
river mantle
Guy... any progress tod.... holy sheetttttt
fast path
so numbers 1 is done?
now we're trying to get the 2nd part of numbers 2?
coral ibex
Neuro ARG popping off today
coral ibex
so numbers 1 is done?
now we're trying to get the 2nd part of numbers 2?
Yeah
I think
native maple
yup and we got phone number but no response but the 1st part of number 2 says there is no call answered so it make sense
we still gonna try during a stream tho
austere sun
no way you are going to be gatekept from an answer by waiting for the number to respond surely that won't be the case
native maple
oh
tawdry narwhal
next stream is evil stream
native maple
what if start from X mean the x coordiante which we did and end with y mean the y coordinate so we get the binary for the column
oh it just 1111
ok yea nah that was dum
austere sun
wait, no one last thing unsolved is eye flitter
is it the time to use the LDEH
native maple
it's LDEV
coral ibex
Whats ldev?
coral ibex
Oh lol
river mantle
L dev = vedal that got sponser by BAYC
austere sun
also has that binary for numbers 2 desc been tried on soundcloud desc
safe monolith
i have, it doesn't work
steel bronze
so numbers 1 is done?
now we're trying to get the 2nd part of numbers 2?
this is exciting
timid swift
wait, so if the binary sequence read as utf8 is the 256 bit key, then does that mean that we're done with public static void?
native maple
still need part 2 no ? and there is a bunch of lyrics
safe monolith
not yet. looks like this is what 2nd stage is alluding to
timid swift
that's not in public static void, tho
quaint reef
Have we used the 16 numbers anywhere?
safe monolith
1.5
austere sun
that's not in public static void, tho
it is, it's in spectogram
timid swift
dude, that's what I'm saying
we now have that key, so is there anything else in public static void now?
native maple
lyrics
austere sun
how are we done with psv then? by that logic we've been done with it ever since it released
timid swift
I'm asking, why you gotta be on the offensive always,pfc?
native maple
i mean people started closing numbers because we solved the desc
austere sun
i am not offensive, i literally do not comprehend your line of thought, what are you even talking about
timid swift
not offensive, on the offensive -- accusatory
timid moth
i am not offensive, i literally do not comprehend your line of thought, what are...
bread means that everything that we needed from psv has been extracted, do we need to solve anything else from it or, or are we done with it?
steel bronze
we now have that key, so is there anything else in public static void now?
pretty sure there is a second cipher?
timid swift
ye, but the lyrics is a good point
timid swift
pretty sure there is a second cipher?
Isn't that in numbers II?
steel bronze
yeah
austere sun
not offensive, on the offensive -- accusatory
that doesn't make it any clearer, you know.
those things have been extracted as the video released, why would it suddenly be done now of all times
timid moth
that doesn't make it any clearer, you know.
those things have been extracted as...
not that it's done suddenly now, but that if we got everything from it, we can shift our focus to another clue we havent figured out yet
steel bronze
it pointed at the binary, which is a 256 bit key
yeah what about the 128 bit key thingy
im trying to keep up but its pretty hard
so excuse me lol
timid swift
It's the algorithm from Numbers (one) lyrics. A kind outsider came and dropped a hint for how to read it using public static void
timid swift
well how do you think the stage 2 cipher could be cracked
You mean Numbers II's description's second part?
timid moth
wait is the binary thing the 128 bit key?
steel bronze
yup
fast path
wasnt binary 256 and now we need 128?
safe monolith
^ am thinking this
quaint reef
128 wasn't specified
timid swift
yes, as silver says
native maple
now we need a 128 key which is 16 char long
steel bronze
yup
timid swift
no we have the 128 key, don't we?
steel bronze
so why dont we try it
native maple
the binary for 256 was 32 long of 1 and 0
steel bronze
as anyone tried it?
safe monolith
i did, yeah
timid swift
1bad0fcabc1ebdce this thing
fast path
no the 256 gave us another thing to decode with 128
timid moth
128 wasn't specified
pretty sure it was
native maple
no valid key found yet
safe monolith
doesn't work on any of the unknown base64s
quaint reef
Oh I mean if it was binary or not
steel bronze
aw damn
dapper wraith
1bad0fcabc1ebdce this thing
thats the one for numbers 1 (and the phone number) not for numbers 2 part 2
native maple
the spectogram cut short so no idea what specific
timid moth
Oh I mean if it was binary or not
there was a key that solved the first part of the numbers ii desc, which was in binary
timid swift
thats the one for numbers 1 (and the phone number) not for numbers 2 part 2
Yes, I'm talking about public static void
uneven moth
I did the sleep thing right after numbers 1 desc was decoded. What'd I miss?
fast path
we used the binary to solve the numbers II desc with 256, which gave us some lore and a new thing to decrypt
uneven moth
well clearly i missed that
native maple
I did the sleep thing right after numbers 1 desc was decoded. What'd I miss?
desc 2 decoded partially
fast path
we need to do that with 128 bit, so we need to find a 16 byte key
languid swan
Another ciphertext appeared after decryption?
timid swift
We don't actualy know if the second half is 128 bit
hollow flare
y’all went proper schizo
safe monolith
Another ciphertext appeared after decryption?
yeah, it's on docs
timid swift
and we have a 16 byte key already, but it doesn't work. 1bad0fcabc1ebdce
timid moth
Another ciphertext appeared after decryption?
the description decoded yields both a cleartext and a ciphertext
fast path
i mean 1st = 256BIT [binary] 2nd = 128BIT
timid swift
1st Numbers, 2nd numbers
fast path
but we used it on the 2nd video
quaint reef
We haven't used the lyrics in numbers 2 right
languid swan
Ah, so the ciphertext of number2 has been decrypted before, I thought it was just decrypted
fast path
not really, just the neuro binary
timid moth
We haven't used the lyrics in numbers 2 right
we used the numbers that got listed
timid swift
We haven't used the lyrics in numbers 2 right
partially correct. The numbers reappear in public static void, and were important there
steel bronze
is it possible that we literally dont have the rest of the arg?
safe monolith
that would be difficult to believe
fast path
we used the numbers that got listed
we used that to fill in blanks in static void, but not to decrypt anything
quaint reef
I would assume that the numbers are important in number2 it self
native maple
no
timid swift
oh boy, the schizo is back
dapper wraith
none of the keys we found so far seem to work on the soundcloud
fast path
tried, but unsuccesful
steel bronze
ah damn it
timid moth
I would assume that the numbers are important in number2 it self
psv tells us how to use the lyrics on numbers I on the numbers from numbers II, but that's it
steel bronze
soundcloud must be later into the arg...
hollow flare
did y’all check out the X?
fast path
what x
steel bronze
public static void -> numbes -> numbers 2 -> numbers 2 step 2 -> soundcloud?
timid swift
psv tells us how to use the lyrics on numbers I on the numbers from numbers II, ...
thou there's also the spectrogram
hollow flare
talking about the X below 128bits
hollow flare
yeah
fast path
oh thats the first part of nubers 2 desc
steel bronze
guh?
dapper wraith
1st Numbers, 2nd numbers
having the 1st=256bit and 2nd=128bit refer to numbers 1 and 2 doesn't make much sense since numbers 1 used the 128bit key and numbers 2 the 256bit one. makes much more sense if it refers to first step of numbers 2 uses 256bit key and step 2 uses (another) 128bit key
hollow flare
ugh, no way-
native maple
no idea
fast path
nothing yet , pretty sure
hollow flare
probably does
timid swift
having the 1st=256bit and 2nd=128bit refer to numbers 1 and 2 doesn't make much ...
Now we're talking sense. Good call
hollow flare
all the numbers are probably important as always
steel bronze
having the 1st=256bit and 2nd=128bit refer to numbers 1 and 2 doesn't make much ...
that makes a lot of sense
timid moth
we need to figure out what the start from X end with Y stuff mean, no?
hollow flare
X does mean something
steel bronze
since the actual video showed numbers 1 hints pretty sure
native maple
thats what we are saying
coral ibex
we need to figure out what the start from X end with Y stuff mean, no?
Could it be finding syllables that sound like x and y and count the ones in between?
fast path
current main objectives are finding key for step 2 of numbers 2 decryption and a key for soundcloud
they may be the same key
hollow flare
nah new mille song is gonna be neuro 🔥🔥
timid swift
current main objectives are finding key for step 2 of numbers 2 decryption and a...
And a way to use the phone number
native maple
look for the password somewhere which got 16 letters and/or numbers
fast path
And a way to use the phone number
oh yeah, that too
timid moth
a syllable that sounds like "why" is here
fast path
I and why are both 1 syllable
eternal timber
Follow is the only word in numbers 2 with more than 1 syllable (besides numbers)
timid moth
yea but why sounds exactly like Y
we need another syllable that sounds like X for that theory then
quaint reef
And what sounds like X? Six?
timid swift
a syllable that sounds like "why" is here
Let's not get into transcription hearing vowels discussions. History has shown that they end in 99% tragedy
hollow flare
xyllables
timid moth
Let's not get into transcription hearing vowels discussions. History has shown t...
i just meant that if we want to interpret start from x and end with y as start with a syllable that sounds like x and end with a syllable that sounds like y, we actually need those syllables yfm?
hollow flare
figure out z 👍👍
austere sun
the lyrics say start from x end with y btw.
how nice of vedal to provide subtitles to the only video that doesnt really need them
native maple
"start FROM x ends with y"
timid swift
i just meant that if we want to interpret `start from x and end with y` as start...
Right, so we gotta accept that there are two routes and either (individually) fixate on one or try to explore both
quaint reef
The SoundCloud also says remove xy + odd one out right?
native maple
Yup
hollow flare
odd pattern breaks?
timid moth
what if they are like numbers?
native maple
That might be for the SoundCloud desc tho
hollow flare
what if they are like numbers?
they are I think
timid moth
either from the alphabet, or just like variables?
hollow flare
relates to the numbers lyrics
tawdry narwhal
someone smarter explain where was fibonacci from numbers I video used? I'm trying to catch up with a few things
timid moth
relates to the numbers lyrics
does it?
quaint reef
If you remove the first and last digit of each number as well as the entirety of 879 which doesn't fit the pattern it's 16 numbers
16 digits I mean
eternal timber
someone smarter explain where was fibonacci from numbers I video used? I'm tryin...
It was a red herring... or was it (but it wasn't used so far)
hollow flare
906 is even
tawdry narwhal
It was a red herring... or was it <:PauseSama:1094993785412395151> (but it wasn'...
thanks, seems strange, maybe we shouldn't call numbers I completely finished
timid moth
either from the alphabet, or just like variables?
24 and 25th letters of the alphabet, maybe?
native maple
So far no Fibonacci used
timid moth
start from 24 and end with 25 sounds dumb, nvrm
hollow flare
24 and 25th letters of the alphabet, maybe?
skykonrats comment is probably most likely
cuz the odd one out
obtuse basalt
YO I SAW PROGRESS?
native maple
Yes
hollow flare
yes
timid moth
So far no Fibonacci used
start from the 24th fibonacci number and end with the 25th?
hollow flare
we went schizo 🔥🔥🔥
obtuse basalt
Good job y'all
hollow flare
start from the 24th fibonacci number and end with the 25th?
red herring
timid moth
how do we know for sure?
tawdry narwhal
is there a fibonacci number that has 16 digits
hollow flare
it’s just a theory
timid swift
how do we know for sure?
we don't. We can't assert that something's irrelevent.
native maple
is there a fibonacci number that has 16 digits <:NeuroClueless:10729013529021031...
Yes
timid moth
24th is 46368, 25th is 75025, what if we run those through the algorithm from numbers I?
hollow flare
perhaps it’s the Lucas sequence
digital radish
whats f(9) equal to
timid moth
9th fibonacci number is 34
crimson tendonBOT
@timid moth has leveled up! (2 ➜ 3)
native maple
24th is 46368, 25th is 75025, what if we run those through the algorithm from nu...
Will give you 15 long keys
digital radish
f(44)
hollow flare
we do not know
hollow flare
https://planetmath.org/listoffibonaccinumbers
pin this lol
native maple
Why ?
timid moth
Will give you 15 long keys
that's sad
reef spruce
https://zeptomath.com/calculators/fibonaccinumbers.php
This will output any fib number up to 10000.
timid swift
just put it in the tools document. We have too many pins already
mint plover
Damn, I am seeing some progress!
steel bronze
if the 2nd stage is 128 bits then we narrowed things down a lot
hollow flare
it’s binary to denary right?
timid swift
idea we can simply try every 16 char long fib number
sure, shouldn't be more than 4 numbers
austere sun
idea we can simply try every 16 char long fib number
go ahead
75 2111485077978050
76 3416454622906707
77 5527939700884757
78 8944394323791464
well, 5 then
steel bronze
go ahead
```74 1304969544928657
75 2111485077978050
76 3416454622906707
77 55279...
n ope
hollow flare
timid moth
go ahead
```74 1304969544928657
75 2111485077978050
76 3416454622906707
77 55279...
78 gave me an answer but i dont this we need this
hollow flare
did you just
timid swift
probably, but that's how you solve an arg
eternal timber
yea but why sounds exactly like Y
"Sy-" in Syllables sounds like X to be honest
obtuse basalt
Are we trying to find the SoundCloud or the rest of Numbers 2?
steel bronze
both
and also the phone number
i genuinely wonder what the size of the key for the phone number is gonna be
hollow flare
I shall this message
safe monolith
i genuinely wonder what the size of the key for the phone number is gonna be
? we have the actual number
obtuse basalt
? Didn't we solve the phone number with Numbers 1 lyrics?
timid swift
78 gave me an answer but i dont this we need this
how often will AES decrypt to garbage vs the real result, rather than straight up not work?
steel bronze
? we have the actual number
we have the phone number... in the js?
eternal timber
i genuinely wonder what the size of the key for the phone number is gonna be
Yes!
languid swan
ye
eternal timber
WE have it
timid swift
we don't know what to do with it
safe monolith
docs moment
hollow flare
what’s the phone number again
timid swift
imagine reading the docs