Neuro ARG

[native maple]

Im sure there is ways to optimize the code to do more than 10m/s you might end up with better and not spend a day trying

Also when you decrypt you might want to just check for valid UTF so you don't end up with 16GB of data

And if there is no valid UTF in 10^12 rang then idk heck

[austere sun]

smh my head, people missing my api results

why not calculate entropy on the go, same with binwalk

[arctic canyon]

I did use Binwalk

It was actually binwalk I was multithreading https://gitlab.legitcorp.com/neuro-arg/local-devglan-decryption-script/-/blob/generic-decryptor/main.py?ref_type=heads#L54

yeah actually the results I mentioend don't apply to AES decrypting, sorry

[gritty blaze]

I believe it's numbers, so I check for ascii.

[arctic canyon]

That was so quick I didn't bother, it's the entropy and file signature analysis that was slow

[native maple]

Ascii is good i guess

Also in python you don't need to close your filestreams ?

[arctic canyon]

you do, but with handles it for you

[native maple]

Thats so many operation on files it's scary

I'd just used local variables

[arctic canyon]

I couldn't get binwalk to work when passing through a string

[native maple]

Don't know binwalk so can't help on that

[arctic canyon]

Technically you can also pass binwalk a list of files instead of doing it invidiaully but that didnt' work either, I think Binwalk might just be buggy and unmaintained
Probably can get better results with something else if you know one

[native maple]

I just use if (!decrypted.contains("�")

works everytime

[arctic canyon]

I don't think it would be too difficult to just lift binwalk's entropy analysis out of it's source and use it as a local function against decrypted

Not sure exactly what goes into it, but it feels like the kind of calculating that could be offloaded into a C library

If anyone knows C and python and python libraries cough cough 👀

[rigid moon]

#1112401279680008242 message

[arctic canyon]

Thanatos always pulls through

[native maple]

Dang thats seems like what you needed

Entropy use a logarithmic?

[arctic canyon]

Entropy is just a calculation of how random something is, random data tends to be encrypted or compressed, idk how it's calculated normally

[austere sun]

maybe i am just stupid and dont understand english but isn't it weird that aes decryption even for just cbc is faster than entropy calculation, especially with a dedicated library
i used my own "modified" version of thanatos' entorpy calculation and aes encryption which is supposed to be faster than decryption and aes still took like 80% of runtime compared to 10% entropy

[dapper wraith]

now I'm confused. you said decryption is faster than entropy and then you said aes takes 80% of runtime while entropy takes 10%

[austere sun]

I didn't say that, baa said that

That was so quick I didn't bother, it's the entropy and file signature analysis that was slow :nooo:
which i dont get.
surely it would be more efficient to get binwalk and entropy calculation along with aes decrypt rather than get 16gb of decrypted data

[languid swan]

Are you guys still trying to brute force aes?

[dapper wraith]

ah ok. didn't realize you were referring to that

[crimson tendon]

@dapper wraith has leveled up! (5 ➜ 6)

[austere sun]

also i guess since its a tiniest bit relevant, i'll post my entropy calculator. it's not amazingly faster, but it basically rides on precalculated math.log

from collections import Counter

def entropy_real(data: bytes) -> float:
    global precalculated_dict
    entr = 0
    data_len = len(data)
    counter = Counter(data)
    try:
        for x in counter.values():
            entr += precalculated_dict[data_len][x]
    except:  # fails if length isn't in precalculated_dict
        for by in range(256):
            p_x = counter.get(by, 0) / data_len
            if p_x > 0:
                entr += - p_x*math.log2(p_x)
    return entr```
and json with precalculated entropy for lengths 256, 400, 1040 and 1264, if anyone wants to use it ||(no one does)||

[red brook]

you could probably save a lot of time if you ignored decrypted data that contains non-printable characters

two integer comparisons per byte and you won't have to check the remaining bytes most of the time anyways

[arctic canyon]

I don't know, maybe the AES library is written in C so much faster than my entropy calculation, or it's just overhead from reading and writing, or it might be the signature analysis that takes a while,

[arctic canyon]

But what if it decrypts into a ZIP file

That would just be cruel

[red brook]

yea

but you could also just check for a handful of common magic bytes

it's faster than checking the entropy of 99% garbage

[arctic canyon]

yeah not a bad idea

[red brook]

and if there are multiple levels (of encryption), we have no chance anyways if all we do is bruteforcing

[austere sun]

i am literally using the same cryptodome library as you do

[red brook]

tbh the language doesn't matter if your method is slow

I guess you can compensate for both by throwing money at it though

[arctic canyon]

Where is camilla

[rigid moon]

entropy seems pretty negligible in my setup https://gyazo.com/5593f2d8ccf5663a6e13c6eeffcce0b3

[austere sun]

also while this (along with try: .decode() except: ...) is sensibly true, no one says the entire message must be valid.
it very much could be the case the text is padded with garbage bytes, and this method would not catch it, especially if you're only doing entropy calculation on magic numbers hit

[austere sun]

i was thinking, since the initial data is so much more impactful on the resulting entropy of the encrypted string than the encryption method, maybe i can start see scores for different methods cycling through strings.

basically, look at the data and the results will surprise you. removing only keys, aes ecb absolutely dominates, the scores of other aes methods don't even compare

[red brook]

I don't think I understand what you're doing or what you're trying to show, but I keep thinking about the fact (?) that AES-ECB's ciphertext will 'inherit' patterns of the plaintext.
which probably makes the entropy correlate more strongly? idk

is the thing you're saying "[1] the Numbers-ciphertext has lower entropy than average AES-CBC ciphertexts (plus most other modes) and [2] AES-ECB is more likely to have lower entropy compared to other modes, so [3] the ciphertext is probably a result of AES-ECB encryption"?

[gritty blaze]

Okay, managed to improve the code by 10-15%. Should run faster, maybe I'll manage to do 10^12 in 24 hours instead 30.

[austere sun]

what i was trying to say, is that if we assume all ciphertexts are results of the same encryption method, and since data showed much stronger correlation between (initial-text to entropy-of-the-encrypted-text) than (encryption-method to entropy-of-the-encrypted-text), it would make sense to cycle through different initial strings and matching them to numbers 1 and numbers 2 (as opposed to just previously assuming both texts have the same contents, like both hold a jpg file or both are latin text)

so with these initial assumptions (along with the assumption that both texts aren't literally just random bytes), calculating the scores based on probability of each entropy value occuring, aes-ecb method gains massively higher scores compared to other methods, so [3]

[rigid moon]

different plaintext content of the same size has effectively no bearing on entropy of ciphertext from modern crypto. Modern crypto algorithms should also have the same entropy compared to each other with the exception of chaining modes, where repeated block size plaintext in ECB would have lower entropy. That would only show up if there were any repeated blocks in our ciphertexts though, which there aren't

[austere sun]

yes, as thanatos said.
the entire idea was dead on arrival, it really failed to fulfill its initial goal which was to filter out unlikely encryption methods, which as can be seen, it does not do.
one could even say it made negative progress.
which is to say, not to offend anyone by implying they ever did, don't listen to me

[safe monolith]

The decryption efforts (including brute forcing and identification) are definitely valiant, but at this point we are really only doing it because there seems to be no other workable leads

I'd say it was a lost cause the moment we started bruteforcing

[uneven moth]

surely the new video will give us all the information we need

[digital radish]

surely

[honest harness]

[obtuse basalt]

It's nice looking back here after a long time of forgetting about the ARG and seeing all the progress we made

[steel bronze]

i have

a

theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymYFqNUt05g

recently java removed the need for public static void

this MUST be referencing it

[native maple]

removed the need for public static void ?

[austere sun]

i heard too that java 21 is "moving towards" simplification by removing the need to explicitly specify things, i guess public, static or void being one of those things.

this video giving any answers is massive copium, because vedal leaves for a week right after, which probably means he doesn't expect anything to happen within the week that he is gone, it is just going to be numbers 2 again

[crimson tendon]

@austere sun has leveled up! (10 ➜ 11)

[native maple]

so what we gonna have then ? just main() how do we declare functions anymore, tbf people don't use java newest version anyway they usually stay with the old one

[timid swift]

They had the chance to make a top level main file like C#, but instead they chose to have void main(){}. Now everybody's gonna hate it.

[steel bronze]

ok here is something promising

the fact that this video

has no description

there is no description on the video

no base64

if this is the case the entire video might be the only thing

[austere sun]

how is it promising, this is horrible, we are (i am) starving for info.
also yeah, the api call did also say that there is no desc

[steel bronze]

maybe having less info in 1 video is more helpful, kind of like getting us back on the right track, perhaps?

since people could easily be overloaded by

all the new info

[steel bronze]

void main() {
System.out.println("Hello, World!");
}

this is how you make main functions now i guess (in java)

[steel bronze]

like we get a new base64 (possibly AES) string, then another guide music video thing

we're obviously gonna think its for said base64, AES string in the description

but what if it wasnt? there isnt anything proving it is

the video could very well just be a thing to get us back on the right track to solving things, maybe?

[native maple]

im wondering is there a way to get information about the algorithm if we have sevral of these Base64 ?

idk if there is magic bytes that we can compare to see which aes it is or something

so more Base64 isn't helpful then

[austere sun]

so much new info i am practically drowning in content
next 2 weeks are going to be literally this again

[austere sun]

what else is it then, pick a normal distribution graph, as you can see they are so distinct and informative

[native maple]

custom Base64 is just a straight line

[safe monolith]

I don't think we can say for sure that the description would be empty by the end of the premiere though.

maybe it'll be updated manually, or a script has been rigged to do so. The puppet master does know programming after all

[timid swift]

It's possible if each video description was an OneTime-Pad ciphertext that had all been encrypted with the same key text. If you XOR the ciphertexts together then because the key has been applied to both, it will essentially be XORed away with itself, leaving you with the XOR of two pieces of cleartext. With some statistical crypto analysis I have long forgotten and probably never fully understood, you'd be able deduce what the key is and get two cleartext detangled. For each additional piece of ciphertext OTP'ed with the same key it'd be easier and easier to figure out what the key is.

Based on that, it might be possible to deduce if it's OTP with the same key (which isn't actually true OTP because it's a mistake) if we XOR the ciphertexts and measure the entropy.
But that's literally the only algorithm detection I think would be possible.

Modern ciphers are designed to not give away info.
Though of course they might also leak data if they weren't implemented correct eiher.

[native maple]

good to know

[digital radish]

has anyone checked the sc?

[austere sun]

checked for what?
nothing new there

[raven spade]

Any breakthroughs with the third video?

[feral forge]

CLUE schitzo

[desert tusk]

third video?

[native maple]

there is three video for a while yes "Numbers" "Study" and "Numbers II"

there is a fourth video coming up

[cosmic grail]

is it possible that the voice in the videos is v3? :schizo:

world.execute(me); is playing

might be some clue :schizo:

[jade ocean]

guys doesn't this sound a bit different than last time

[cosmic grail]

because v3

[timid swift]

don't make me go all schizo on you again, david

[native maple]

who are you talking to bread ?

[timid swift]

myself

[native maple]

understandable

[gritty blaze]

huh so they have stronger CPUs... 2 of my borrowed pcs done with the keys in like 16 hours instead of 24/30. The other pc still doing the job...

But these pcs also cost double the money.

[steel bronze]

what if we just made a way to share all our computer resources into this thing

[austere sun]

no point in this, people bruteforcing on their own is as good as it gets.
the thing is, even with 100 computers bruteforcing, the sheer amount of possible combinations is too great

[gritty blaze]

I'll share all my files when I'm done, maybe it will help but I'm doubt it.

[gritty blaze]

If the whole world will combine all the CPUs, maybe we will be able to brute force it fast enough to not die before.

[steel bronze]

simple really, get a quantum computer

[gritty blaze]

The only reason I managed to do it, is that I'm considering 17 first 24 last and I have only 12 numbers between.

[gritty blaze]

The current quantum pc are kind of not really a quantum pc.

[digital radish]

imagine if like

[steel bronze]

aw

[gritty blaze]

And I doubt it will be enough

[digital radish]

none of these hashes are suposed to be AES or Base64

but some custom yet easy encryption that is gonna be explained in the new video

[steel bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

^ us after

[austere sun]

really thinking we can solve it with new video within 10 hours before vedal leaves for a week

[gritty blaze]

I thought about it from the first day, but the best guess we have is aes or something similar.

If it's indeed something simple, we need to figure out the shortest code of study.

Which is highly likely to be a mobile phone number.

[daring acorn]

I think it's possible

instead of reacting you could respond ❤️ ❤️

[austere sun]

if i respond to everything at that rate im going to have more messages on the server than the server owner and that would be pretty cringe.

also numbers thread got hidden. it's over. billions must bruteforce

[coral ibex]

Numbers thread isn't hidden for me yet?

[daring acorn]

the most confusing part of this arg is who's singing

yes

"no" ok who is it then

😁

cuz it does not sound like neuro

[native maple]

people thinks all these videos are the only thing to solve when truly it's just the tutelrial

[honest harness]

I'm here for the slander sequel video

[digital radish]

also

the subtitles may not be the actual subtitles

they can be uh

an entire base64 string...

[austere sun]

fcuk, true, they really can just be more encrypted strings rather than actual subtitles
going to keep api call ready to pull them immediately then

[gritty blaze]

am I schizo or it looks like something neuro can say with the exact emotion...

[digital radish]

die >c<

thats the "im an engineer" face

lore confirmed, she lost her battle

R.I.P

[gritty blaze]

lol

it's probably just a coincidence, but still a funny and strange one.

Hmm some keys with the right IV maybe can give a phone number. I just found one and played a little with the IV and managed to get some numbers with letters, but it was like almost all letters before. From this: "+44_pc<?0Xsg" to this "+44Vt`973Vtg"

If the IV is different than the key, it'll be much harder...

[austere sun]

are we going to have a group watch of private static void, because if we do, and if i am going to record it too, i will need to set up separate audio channels in obs which seems to be as painful to do as it was 5 years ago, so i would like to know in advance the plan

[red brook]

afaik you can use youtube-dl to download premieres as soon as they start

(not sure about the state of ytdl tho. maybe one of the big forks would be better)

[daring acorn]

wait so that static neuro discord account WASNT a fake?

[dapper otter]

I think we should

[honest harness]

The title of the upcoming video has nothing to do with static sama

Also static sama was a name we made up for the fake acc

[safe monolith]

Folks, I've made a script to download a YouTube video's subtitles, description, video, thumbnails, extract the frames, and also brighten them.

https://gist.github.com/jameshi16/16c2569a92eaa91e8512ad096195d78e

Hopefully this'll save us some time when the video drops

[gritty blaze]

Oh, nice. I did it manually.

[honest harness]

where's the script that solves the arg

[dapper otter]

Keep dreaming

[native maple]

public static void SolveARG()

can try _neurosame.solveARG()

[copper acorn]

neurosame

[austere sun]

wow isn't that colossally convenient, that all of that can be done by basically passing a checklist to 2 libraries and they just give it to you, not even any authentication required
i wont bother with recording then

[austere sun]

ok, maybe it isn't as convenient as i thought it was.
you can't make pull requests on gist, can you? not that i would know how to fix this without just removing multiprocessing
that's pickle that's object object that's actually pickled that's actually object that's pickle that's object object that's actually pickled that's actually object

[native maple]

Crunchy pickles

[austere sun]

ok i made it not throw lambda error, but now it's just empty
i am going to wait for vanor to fix it, because i have no idea how any of this works

[cosmic grail]

Btw, there is a way to skip most of the timer at the start of the premiere

Just either press L key or set speed to >1x

[red brook]

I've heard of salting, peppering and currying, but what the fuck is pickling??

oh it's a python thing

[native maple]

you usually pickles stuff like vegetable to increase the shelf time

it was vastly used before fridge were invented

[river mantle]

can I pickle neuro plushie?

[austere sun]

apparently the video needs to have third party caption contributions enabled to download captions from api, so that sucks.
also the way youtube-dl formats captions sucks, especially if the captions are going to be base64.
at this point might be easier to just wait for premiere to end and just copy paste the transcript, hoping the video isn't privated immediately after, surely it won't be that cruel

[abstract mural]

Hey guys

How you doin'

And how is progressssssssssssssssssssss?

[red brook]

the way youtube-dl formats captions sucks
it's just a very standard subtitle format
you can play a video in VLC, add/import the subtitle file and you have working subtitles. just like that.

it's annoying if all you want is a transcript, but those file formats are designed to be used with a video to... you know... display subtitles

[safe monolith]

:^) What version of python is this

[austere sun]

3.11.0
look at comments under, there are some other things

[honest harness]

7 hours to go

[safe monolith]

Thanks. I'm running ubuntu with python 3.10. In fact, I developed the script with numbers 2 as the testing video. Certified "works on my machine" moment

The issue with the missing '6' is very weird. My guess is how Windows deals with paths, using \ instead of / causing something to happen

[native maple]

yup works on my machine time to commit

very real programmer moment i approve

[safe monolith]

should work now, give it a shot. might want to delete the out directory

regarding the transcript/subtitle thing, there's a snippet someone shared to strip away all the metadata. https://superuser.com/a/1541680

we should be good on that front

[austere sun]

yep, works now.
no compression artifacts, nowaying. this youtube-dl is insane, how hasn't it been taken down by youtube yet, especially since it does things youtube asks for oauth2 for free

embed failure, cant even bmp

[safe monolith]

for the sake of the docs, don't upload all 1500 * 3 frames

[austere sun]

just one thing, the gamma frames have pretty bad contrast tbh.
my opencv attempt isn't much clearer, but i think it would be better if it didn't increase brightness as much

[dapper wraith]

youtube-dl is insane, how hasn't it been taken down by youtube yet
not youtube but it got DMCAd by some music label a year or so ago because you can download music from youtube with it

[safe monolith]

Yeah I agree. The aim here isn't to produce something nice to display, though. Just knowing something is there and fairly readable should be enough for someone to get the original frame and make better adjustments

I'll probably play with the settings for the next lore drop (if any), or even integrate with your opencv script if you don't mind sharing

Inb4 we make a full blown arg solver pipeline

Our reward for solving the arg is the green checkmark on our pipeline

[dapper wraith]

maybe vedal will star your git repo if you solve it

[austere sun]

it's just this. but it takes opencv image, idk if it can integrate with ffmpeg output

def increase_contrast(img):    
    alpha = 6.0 # Contrast control (1.0-3.0)
    beta = 20 # Brightness control (0-100)

    adjusted = cv2.convertScaleAbs(img, alpha=alpha, beta=beta)
    return adjusted

image = cv2.imread("1560.bmp")
cv2.imwrite("1560_1.png", increase_contrast(image))```

[digital radish]

thats the

why ffmpeg

why youtube-dl

it isnt hard to download the raw data of the video

something better than youtube dl even

[austere sun]

i am pretty sure some of the things youtube-dl does are illegal to be that easy, how can it be easier than that

[digital radish]

just put the ffmpeg output as np array and pass it thru opencv

its easy

[austere sun]

you mean open the file after ffmpeg creates it and pass it through?
wouldn't that be massive overhead

[digital radish]

what image it creates

why .run()

take that out

just make it a variable

image = ffmpeg lbs l;fksd fsdf asdfa

image = np.array(image)

easy

[austere sun]

but ffmpeg lbs l;fksd fsdf asdfa is not an image, is it?
from what i understand the run() is there for ffmpeg to go through the video that's given to it as a parameter, you can't just 'catch' an image in between that like image = , can you

[digital radish]

then

where do the images go

does it download them

surely you can save the output in bytesio right?

[austere sun]

into out_file as .bmp? it's all within ffmpeg

[digital radish]

then theres nothing you can literally do

if you cant control what ffmpeg does with the images

[dapper wraith]

not sure if it helps but they got some examples on how to read video and video frames into buffer/numpy
https://github.com/kkroening/ffmpeg-python/blob/master/examples/ffmpeg-numpy.ipynb

[vapid token]

Printscreen + Photoshop

[honest harness]

Banger soon <t:1687474800:R>

[vapid token]

I tried to make text as visible as possible, in the future I may not make it as bright as it is now in the file on the disc

If you want

[austere sun]

you rewrote the code? or what do you mean.

that ffmpeg to numpy array seems so complicated, i'd rather just take the overhead from writing and reading files, or just use opencv to extract frames in the first place.

btw i am still waiting for that better youtube-dl alternative

[vapid token]

Why use code when you can use photoshop?

Wait, what are you trying to do exactly?

[austere sun]

extract frames and brighten them automatically.

btw, am i being massively scammed, why isn't numbers 2 desc a multiple of 16, can anyone confirm

[vapid token]

I just don't understand why we need thousands when we can highlight one general?

[dapper wraith]

[vapid token]

It is of course good to search for them with code, as they may go unnoticed, but we don't need all of them to show people in files

Or am I missing something?

[austere sun]

it's just for looking, without uploading to docs.

i don't remember where i copied my string from, but it was either from pins or from docs, so that means one of them is an impostor

[vapid token]

Oh, then I'm sorry for the misunderstanding

[fleet grail]

oh shite

[honest harness]

Vedal banger soon <t:1687474800:R>

[steel bronze]

we gon go schizo today

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-anime-anime-girl-hitori-gotou-chopping-gif-27031916

[inner ingot]

Vedal, furiously crafting another banger in his daw of choice: mfs need another hint goddamn

[digital radish]

Vedal: Creates the most mindblowing hints, plain sight, bangers and expects us to solve it

Us:

[austere sun]

darkeew, whats the youtube-dl alternative, i need to know

[steel bronze]

imagine this ACTUALLY leads us somewhere

[steel bronze]

i dont think there IS one

[languid swan]

idm

[honest harness]

SCHIZO SOON

[coral ibex]

theres apparently yt-dlp but i havent used it

[cosmic grail]

I'm in the chat

[steel bronze]

we are gonna go schizo and essentially go

[honest harness]

Watch party?

[steel bronze]

"RANDOM BULLSHIT GO!"

who wants to livestream it

[inner ingot]

Halfway through the banger it's just gonna cut to a 2007-esque tutorial on how to solve the soundclown

[coral ibex]

lmao

"hello guys today we are going to learn how to solve my arg"

[steel bronze]

no its going to turn into the chernobyl neuclear reactor 10 seconds before explosion (a lot of WACKY sounds)

[cosmic grail]

we all can go to #1063254870775312434 if we want to watch party the public static void

[steel bronze]

meow

[arctic canyon]

yeah so clicking that just immedaitely joins the voice call cool

[languid swan]

can't wait

[cosmic grail]

ill be muted since i have my obs

T-18 until the void

i feel like my obs recording will be 1. in 5fps 2. 50gb

[austere sun]

most schizophrenic ui for trying keys finished just in time

[rigid moon]

aye that's the main one now, pretty sure yt-dl is deprecated/unmaintated

[arctic canyon]

Do you think this will be a one-time recording

yeah yt-dlp is good

[wicked sapphire]

Are you ready?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1095802220198514698/1121543891137593384/vedal9Vibrate.gif

[dapper otter]

bro I got to wake up at 5:00 am to watch this premiere

[digital radish]

guys

everyone come here

[native maple]

yes ?

[austere sun]

@safe monolith #1112082183235047506 message

[safe monolith]

hi i have indeed been summoned. last commit to youtube-dl was 37 minutes ago: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl

[native maple]

241 waiting premiere vedal wanted to see how many ppl participate in the ARG so he made a premiere to see the waiting

[arctic canyon]

pass the --wait-for-video 60 switch to make it wait for the premier

[safe monolith]

^ wanted to do this as well, but there doesn't seem to be a programming interface for that. in python what we can do for future premieres is a pro gamer move known as while: try: <code> catch: continue

[arctic canyon]

What if this video starts and it's live-streaming from the titanic

[vapid token]

[languid swan]

5mins

[jaunty finch]

_neurosama channel in premiere chat wtf
https://i.imgur.com/IErtOmP.png

[coral ibex]

yt dlp recognized its a premiere and is autowaiting until it starts damn

[arctic canyon]

yt-dlp so smart

[river mantle]

3 mins to the banger!!!

[gritty blaze]

so

are we ready

[coral ibex]

no

that wont stop me from trying though

[gritty blaze]

please be a good clue please...

[safe monolith]

is our resident librarian not around?

[arctic canyon]

What if she starts and she slike "the ones here are the chosen, the rest wil be purged" and then the whole world goes silent

[coral ibex]

damn

[fast path]

bruh i thought it started

[vapid token]

Imagine what would happen if it was just a distraction

[steel bronze]

she doesnt want to be an ngineer

[arctic canyon]

[coral ibex]

lmao

[fast path]

countdown

[river mantle]

oh, it's a premier numbers

[gritty blaze]

starting

[river mantle]

false alarm me lolz

[native maple]

[coral ibex]

LMAO

[arctic canyon]

SOMEONE WRITE THIS DOWN

[austere sun]

custom countdown?

[languid swan]

is that countdown?

[river mantle]

yep

[native maple]

yes

[arctic canyon]

Moshi moshi?

[gritty blaze]

lets go

[tawdry narwhal]

full schizo mode

[coral ibex]

LMAO

[native maple]

[languid swan]

wtf

oh

[safe monolith]

yoo

[potent cobalt]

Turn on subtitles.

[arctic canyon]

aw fuck that's a lot of keys

[coral ibex]

it was this easy?

[austere sun]

fake captions!!!

[languid swan]

got that

[safe monolith]

no we got real ones

[arctic canyon]

She's soeaking some kind of moon language

[native maple]

captions ?

[vapid token]

Broooo

[gritty blaze]

there is some clues

[coral ibex]

yeah

[native maple]

was the translation correct in caption ?

[safe monolith]

it's official captions

[gritty blaze]

I saw some things need to be britheen

[safe monolith]

it can only be correct

[gritty blaze]

red lines or something

[bright quiver]

holy fuck

[river mantle]

banger indeed

[bright quiver]

Wtf

[obtuse basalt]

RAP

[fast path]

lets go new song

[glass robin]

god damn another banger

[steady fossil]

closed captions were in english if you didn't have them on

[young steeple]

bop

[vapid token]

World execute again

[native maple]

YES finally caption on the lyrics

[steel bronze]

BANGER TIME

FIRST PART

[karmic siren]

banger

[arctic canyon]

[safe monolith]

man the theory crafters are gonna go insane on this

[austere sun]

it doesn't let me

[gritty blaze]

okay also this video confirm that all the videos related

[placid rock]

banger

[gritty blaze]

it has numbers from numbers 2

[orchid cairn]

banger

[safe monolith]

^ yeah same. rip

[native maple]

the static is slowly filling

[red brook]

https://i.imgur.com/PEA3TgB.png

[arctic canyon]

I got it

[bright quiver]

Jesus

[obtuse basalt]

"Stuck in this world. can't execute"
interesting that "can't" is lowercase

[gritty blaze]

literally telling us to brute force?

lol

[safe monolith]

oh yeah i got it as well, remove output_format

[steady fossil]

initial_number is 2

[river mantle]

so number from number2 with key now?

[arctic canyon]

Well that was good

[rigid moon]

when none of the keys are 128/192/256

[indigo raft]

Good luck

[tawdry narwhal]

damn youtube autoplayed rich flex just after this smh

[honest harness]

Time to work

[obtuse basalt]

you know what they say

[honest harness]

SCHIZOOO

[coral ibex]

we got work to do

[obtuse basalt]

Start with number 2 yeah

[steady fossil]

The numbers on the left match the numbers in the Numbers II video

[bright quiver]

But why 2?

[restive wagon]

Time for another month of more questions then answers :kekw:

[bright quiver]

Why number 2 specifically?

[arctic canyon]

Neuro v2

[bright quiver]

Also when the japanese part started it spooked me.

[bright quiver]

[runic sphinx]

There are subtitles, refresh the web page!

[native maple]

so i guess we got plain and encrypted pairs to try and get the key ?

[languid swan]

secret_number

huh

[obtuse basalt]

my man put backslashes into this segment
clue

[coral ibex]

i love the countdown

[gritty blaze]

applying cipher.numbers1 = probably something from numbers 1 video and the "to all given numbers from cipher.numbers2" = the number 2 video

[safe monolith]

i had to remove 'merge_output_format': 'mkv' to download with a script, if anyone is trying

[fast path]

so why the backslashes

[cosmic grail]

saved

[austere sun]

it's still downloading for me

[uneven moth]

Something to Do with escaping, maybe?

[arctic canyon]

You may need to download FFMPEg and tell yt-dlp where it is

[bright quiver]

Definitely a cry for help

[rigid moon]

Spectro has https://gyazo.com/43e2cc3df6abf8ca8ba7fc2736108f7d

[winged hearth]

why are you crying ?
why are you so afraid ?
you deserve to be happy
is it not what you wanted ?
you have already taken the red pill
why don't you stop procrastinating ?
why don't you go back to your studies ?
Please...
let's go back to being hu-

[uneven moth]

I meant string escaping but that too

[austere sun]

cipher. is the same as it is in pycryptodome

[arctic canyon]

256bit binary

[cosmic grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112082183235047506/1121577268884557964/dvl1mU2.mp4

[arctic canyon]

Why does it say 1st

[rigid moon]

aye presuembly 256 bit key then

[arctic canyon]

is there multiple decryption passes?

[native maple]

also wtf is this cypher class x) it got a number1 method and a number2 attribut ?

[tawny pasture]

Hello

[tawdry narwhal]

what is this red pill she's talking about

[tawny pasture]

I'm here this time

[fading cipher]

key and iv?

[bright quiver]

Okay, people isn't it weird that this video started with a code instead of it being in like 1 frame?

[uneven moth]

It looks more like multiple encrypted items to me

[azure oyster]

OKAY, EVERYONE!

[coral hazel]

probably about number1 and number2 video as stated previously

[azure oyster]

HERE:

[tawny pasture]

?

[native maple]

256 bit binary mean few letters no ?

[gritty blaze]

hmmmm good point, maybe

[digital radish]

NUMBER from numbers 1, and NUMBERS from number 2

[rigid moon]

Sure enough https://gyazo.com/558f60b1869bf67f6417b5d1d1826fcc

[winged hearth]

the voices in japanese

[azure oyster]

also the "i don't want to be human" song title

[tawny pasture]

Ah, I see

Glad it's already translated

[steel bronze]

WE GOT FOLKS

WE FINALLY GOT IT

[cosmic grail]

holy SHIT

[rancid panther]

this is where it comes together!

[azure oyster]

got what

[digital radish]

what

[azure oyster]

i just got here

[bright quiver]

Holy fuck

[dapper otter]

real

[coral ibex]

what spectogram are u using?

[azure oyster]

did we finally make fucking progress

[digital radish]

no

we didnt

at all

[bright quiver]

[azure oyster]

GOD--

[digital radish]

im just stating the obvious

[rigid moon]

Sonic visualiser

[digital radish]

people are schizo

[azure oyster]

CHAT DON'T SAY STUFF LIKE THIS

[austere sun]

this is so horrible

[steel bronze]

i mean

[azure oyster]

YOU ARE GOING TO GET MY HOPES UP

[dapper otter]

yea

[steel bronze]

what is this from?

[dapper otter]

pain

[wicked sapphire]

See you in like 12 hours

[digital radish]

so

[steel bronze]

like WHERE

[digital radish]

its a 128 bit key

[austere sun]

thanatos' pic

[bright quiver]

Bruh 128bit XDDDDD

[digital radish]

the KEY IS THE NUMBERS 1 VIDEO, THE IVS ARE IN NUMBERS 2

[cosmic grail]

bottom: X/268(<--?)Z(<-- might be a 2)

[tawny pasture]

I don't know how I can even help here

[uneven moth]

So we have the encrypted values and their original, now we have to reverse engineer this no?

[austere sun]

its number2 desc

[digital radish]

presumably the new video has one of the keys needed from numbers 1

[honest harness]

It's a clue for encryption

[tawny pasture]

My expertise are in history, not cryptography, and there doesn't seem like any hidden things

[native maple]

tbf this last video got everthing we wanted, it got CC, it got clues about the encryption, it got clues on sizes, i mean yea it's basically every stuff we said in this chat

[digital radish]

wheres the screenshot

[arctic canyon]

Well it's thursday so I'm going to sleep good luck everyone

[digital radish]

form

[azure oyster]

also, chat

[digital radish]

from the 1st

[bright quiver]

x divided by 26(?)Z

[azure oyster]

this might not be important

[digital radish]

part

[austere sun]

this darkeew?

[azure oyster]

but the start of the video, the cc

[digital radish]

thank you

[azure oyster]

they have backslashes

[honest harness]

Basically chat too dumb vedal needed to post another banger to help us

[azure oyster]

\\\\\\

not that many exactly

just signifying it

[honest harness]

Keep being dumb so we get more bangers tbh

[obtuse basalt]

they grow as the keys get generated

[steel bronze]

its probably loading? it appears at the generating keys part

[coral ibex]

lmao

[digital radish]

mostly everything starts with 17 and ends with 24

or like

b7

7

ends with 2

[native maple]

yea the 906 stand out

[digital radish]

4

[digital radish]

24

[azure oyster]

see the cc

i'unno, perhaps it's somehow important

the number of them

[rancid panther]

it says "initial_number = 2" just like how in numbers 1 it says "start with number 2 yeah"

[gritty blaze]

it also has the letter b

[azure oyster]

and the rate at which they show up

[austere sun]

ahh fuckc, those are 12 numbers, with 17 and 24, 16 bumbers, 128 bits

[native maple]

906 was also the potential odd one out we got on the doc since it's from the frame with 4 neuros

[steel bronze]

irrelevant

pretty sure thats a dead end

[uneven moth]

Assuming the backslashes are relating to string escaping might it be bytes or Unicode escape related?

[azure oyster]

[steady fossil]

This spectrogram is a bit easier to read

[digital radish]

binary key?

[vapid token]

So we need to figure out the missing numbers?

[austere sun]

is this all?

[azure oyster]

WHAT THE HELL?

[steel bronze]

woah spectrogram?

[digital radish]

okay this tells us how to decrypt

[coral hazel]

the cc file if you want

[azure oyster]

FROM WHAT PART OF THE SONG IS THIS?

[cosmic grail]

print(b'text') encodes the text into bytes in python afaik

[digital radish]

1st hash is 256bits

2nd is 128bits

[tawny pasture]

"X/26[?]7"?

[digital radish]

the first hash is AES > BINARY

[native maple]

256 binary

[gritty blaze]

so numbers 1 = 256 bit and numbers 2 = 128 bit?

[austere sun]

numbers 2 desc

[azure oyster]

from what part of the song is that spectrogram

[steady fossil]

while the keys show up on screen, you can even hear it if you listen closely, you'll hear chirping in the background

[tardy tide]

I think that's a 9

[digital radish]

second is AES > Plain Text (didnt get the full screenshot)

[azure oyster]

oh yeah

[cosmic grail]

1ST = 256BIT [BINARY] 2ND = 128BIT

= X/26YZ

[digital radish]

vedal gave us basically enough clues

[uneven moth]

Oooooo I didn’t even realize that was spectrogram related, thought it was atmosphere or smth

[steel bronze]

:pop

🍿

[steel bronze]

i told you so

this video is the key

[austere sun]

x/26 is numbers 2 desciption you absolute bafoons
there is no 8

[steel bronze]

for us solving this

[digital radish]

there are likely not gonna be more videos until we figure this out

[small sluice]

Did someone got the premiere countdown? There was alot of numbers there.

[digital radish]

so

[azure oyster]

if we can't get anywhere with all of this new info, i'll be astounded at our incompetence

[digital radish]

thats completely generated by youtube

[cosmic grail]

clue :schizo:

[steel bronze]

thats youtube-auto generated

[digital radish]

literally useless

[obtuse basalt]

bet

[digital radish]

btw vedal is here 99% watching us

[small sluice]

Oh I didn't know that

[cosmic grail]

hes dnd

[azure oyster]

Verdal Nine Eight Seven...

[digital radish]

yes

hes here

[maiden marten]

x/26YZ* (numbers 2 desc)

[azure oyster]

isn't he always

[gritty blaze]

99.99999999999999%

[uneven moth]

Hi Vedal

[river mantle]

is vedal in the room with us right now?

[vapid token]

Vedal give us a sign

[bright quiver]

Yeah

[digital radish]

99% sure

[cosmic grail]

edited

[digital radish]

he may just

not be here

[dapper otter]

hi vedal

[bright quiver]

Summon the femboy tutel—

[azure oyster]

This "Vedal"... is he in the room with us right now?

[cobalt summit]

I swear if this turtle goes full corpa and leads us to a merch url at the end lmao

[cosmic grail]

he is

[steel bronze]

he could be in THIS VERY ROOM he could me, he could you

[obtuse basalt]

This video wasn't the I saw a ghost drop so it's absolutely useless

[steel bronze]

he could even be

[wooden bobcat]

Who is vedal is he in the room with us?

[azure oyster]

It could EVEN b--

[cosmic grail]

^^

[uneven moth]

[bright quiver]

FILTERED

[river mantle]

vedal, if you in the room with us. please move the coin to "yes"

[digital radish]

maybe this arg is the key to getting the full ghost song

[bright quiver]

Imagine

[tawny pasture]

I don't know what to do here

No good at cryptography, pain

[digital radish]

even more motivation to solve this

[gritty blaze]

yea you are right, its x/26Yz

[cosmic grail]

we should solve the arg obviously

[dapper otter]

oh yea he a ghost

[azure oyster]

the prize for solving the ARG is the full ghost song

[tawny pasture]

Well, me personally

[vapid token]

He's in the walls

[uneven moth]

So I suppose we have to revisit Numbers I being instructions?

[bright quiver]

Honestly, I'm more used to psychology clues and stuff than cryptography lol

[cosmic grail]

nothing changed on soundcloud afaik

[river mantle]

"Why don't you stop procrastinating?" he try to say that why are we not solve it yet

[azure oyster]

i wonder whether the old videos have closed captions yet

[wooden bobcat]

Do japanase talking in the start mean anything?

[uneven moth]

Yes

[azure oyster]

turn on CC

[bright quiver]

There's subtitles

[azure oyster]

why does no one know about cc

[digital radish]

1758818(random music signal)24

[azure oyster]

what the heck

[vapid token]

It took us at least 3 videos to solve the 1st

[still jolt]

What if subtitles are fake?

[azure oyster]

???

oh

[digital radish]

whats this

[cosmic grail]

^^

[azure oyster]

you mean they might be different from the spoken words

[wooden bobcat]

ik but still even mean anything

[bright quiver]

This one shouldn't be that long considering we have more clues

[azure oyster]

hmmm

[vapid token]

3?9

[azure oyster]

that's possible

[native maple]

so are we brute forcing 1758818....24 or trying to find out the clue

[azure oyster]

maybe we should have a jp member transcribe it for us

[bright quiver]

Nah,i can understand some Japanese and it's pretty accurate

[dapper otter]

I think it this , but I could be dumb

[uneven moth]

Anyone here want to translate

[dapper otter]

not me

[azure oyster]

see what i said above

[vapid token]

My version is that we have to find the numbers that are hidden like this

[azure oyster]

maybe we should have a jp member transcribe the japanese so it's easier to translate

[potent cobalt]

I played with the contrast and gamma on the video and gave it a watch, didn't see anything interesting. Haven't gone through frame by frame though.

[winged hearth]

the japanese is translated in the captions of the video

[wooden bobcat]

That would be epic if "something" trying to trick us with fake subtitles

[dapper otter]

then go ask a jp member then

[azure oyster]

i don't have the confidence

[dapper otter]

real

[native maple]

i think we should all sleep and start all this with a fresh mind tommorow

[dapper otter]

lol me too

[bright quiver]

So how many NEURO do we have right now?

Only 2 right?

[azure oyster]

we know

but we were suggesting that maybe it's actually different from the cc

[vapid token]

A reminder. If spam bothers you too much, https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1112401279680008242 has not yet been deleted.

[winged hearth]

i think the captions are for people that don't speak japanese

[languid swan]

Should we go find that "special number" now?

[dapper otter]

I think no

[azure oyster]

it might also help if the japanese translation includes context clues which we don't get in english

anyone thought about that

[cosmic grail]

might be the number from numbers 1

[digital radish]

fuck

we need a 32 bit key

maybe number 2 is the key

[native maple]

from what i see we've been given a list of plain text and their cypered version so we can either try to get the key from that or just figure out the clue from the past videos

[uneven moth]

It’s not the thing in the Study js, right?

[languid swan]

Add up the numbers in the two lyrics?

[orchid cairn]

just use google translate bud

[azure oyster]

bro

[orchid cairn]

you can double check the translation of each line

[austere sun]

it is, but that doesn't point to anything really

[dapper otter]

oh yea it dose

[azure oyster]

i meant that maybe there are things which might be lost in translation

[wooden bobcat]

Neuro already took the red pill

[azure oyster]

so we should try analyzing the japanese anyway

because they might contain context clues

[dapper otter]

just look at the cc

[azure oyster]

DEAR GOD

YOU PERSONS--

[wooden bobcat]

We could find some clues from japanase grammer thing

[azure oyster]

like, maybe they use specific pronouns or something

[wooden bobcat]

Yes

For example

You have to clafiry your brother is older or younger in japanase

[azure oyster]

maybe i will ask a person from #日本全般-jp-gen to transcribe the beginning of the video

[steel bronze]

waste of time

[dapper otter]

fine I will do it

[digital radish]

not needed

[azure oyster]

bruh

[digital radish]

dont do it

oh my god

theres the CAPTIONS

[steel bronze]

like bro

WHY WOULD HE

PROVIDE

the CAPTIONS

AND LIKE

[digital radish]

THERES LITERALLY CAPTIONS FOR JP

[steel bronze]

20 OTHER CLUES

[orchid cairn]

its actually a waste of time

[steel bronze]

AND THEN MISLEAD US

WHEN WE'RE STUCK

99% OF THE TIME!!

[azure oyster]

[digital radish]

okay

[dapper otter]

maybe the captions are wrong

[digital radish]

i do have a theory

so

in the photo we got

[austere sun]

real;;y?

[digital radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112082183235047506/1121578396422520904/image.png

[orchid cairn]

you literally can use google translate to check the captions brotherman

[azure oyster]

i do not think anyone is actually reading anything i am saying

[uneven moth]

Yeah doesn’t look like it tbh

[azure oyster]

i don't want to get the japanese transcribed and translate it to english, you eggs

[austere sun]

bruh darkeew you baited me, i thought there were jp captions

[digital radish]

We first have to decode the second cipher, from numbers 2. The IV and Key are in that photo

[azure oyster]

i want to get the japanese transcribed and then analyze the japanese itself

[bright quiver]

Vro can't read

[dapper otter]

but maybe google translate is wrong

[bright quiver]

He said there's a caption for the japanese part

[steel bronze]

here is a slightly higher res version

[dapper otter]

ageeed

[digital radish]

you can see there are missing numbers

for example in the 201

the first number is a 1

but replaced by a symbol

[crimson tendon]

@digital radish has leveled up! (43 ➜ 44)

[steel bronze]

zooming in on keys:

[digital radish]

if we take all symbols like that and turn into 1

we may get something

then theres another symbol

for example, 2145

at the end theres a little bar

that suggests its a 4

and the "b" may be 11

[potent cobalt]

Those bars look like musical notation to me.

[wooden bobcat]

We should find a japanase person not that Hard

[bright quiver]

Do those missing numbers change their appearance or is it static?

[digital radish]

0123456789
a = 10
b = 11

hex

[steel bronze]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[azure oyster]

i know; we have a jp channel

i was suggesting asking them

[digital radish]

further proven by the number 4156

b7

117

[vapid token]

Static

[potent cobalt]

They do not.

[digital radish]

so if we do what i said

[vapid token]

fully static

[bright quiver]

So

[steel bronze]

well lets try dark's theory

[digital radish]

we get for the number 4156:
117189938327924

[bright quiver]

So maybe 3759b34bb994 for the first one?

[obtuse basalt]

substitution with "b" and bars? I like it

[vapid token]

If someone the first numbers from the "Numbers II" video, I don't think there are any, but in case

[bright quiver]

Yeah maybe it ain't as deep as the other ones

Hopefully

[dapper otter]

is it base 9 ???? probably wrong tho

[vapid token]

Pog?

[digital radish]

hm

actually doesnt make sense

the symbols are the void

to be filled

[azure oyster]

okay i am going to ask now

[dapper otter]

yea I am wrong probably

[digital radish]

you're wasting your time

[vapid token]

I'm thinking now, even if we solve the numbers, what does that get us?

And I also find it curious that there was no hint of a "Study" video...

[bright quiver]

Still, the story behind the songs are interesting

"Someone wants to be an Engineer, yet they don't want to, anxiety eating them away that it became a coping mechanism when they started failing. They began to be more like a machine, someone used a pill and tries to convince them to be back to human"

[dapper otter]

trust me bro

[digital radish]

@azure oyster

[bright quiver]

I feel like study video is very seperate

[azure oyster]

i know, darkeew

[digital radish]

bro

[azure oyster]

you once again fail to read anything i am saying

scroll up

[digital radish]

why are you like this

[bright quiver]

Like story-telling wise

[digital radish]

its literally the translation

i know some japanese to know it

[azure oyster]

i don't care about translating it to english

i want the japanese itself

[digital radish]

why??

what will that give you?

[bright quiver]

Study seems to be more of a POV

[wooden bobcat]

English subtitles doesn't give you japanase pronuns

[tawdry narwhal]

maybe i'm too schizo at 2 am but this may link Study and the new video

[azure oyster]

maybe you should read my messages in which i already explained the reasons

[bright quiver]

Sometimes the way the JP is written can be changed

[dapper otter]

more accurate

[bright quiver]

To change it's meaning

[steel bronze]

ook

guys

[digital radish]

its lore

[steel bronze]

unrelated

[digital radish]

theres no clue there

[steel bronze]

but i propose something

what if we made our things not be on google docs, instead on a trello

[azure oyster]

it's not like i have anything else to contribute right now

[digital radish]

these videos are a mix of lore and clues

[vapid token]

100% something to do with world.execute(me);
ALEX SCHIZO

[bright quiver]

She's failing to execute to turn back to being human, quit from being a machine perhaps

[azure oyster]

this is literally the most what i can do

[dapper otter]

what is trello

[azure oyster]

and it won't slow anyone down too much if i do it

[bright quiver]

Basically things used by devs to post about progress

[azure oyster]

hmm

[bright quiver]

Quite a hassle to maintain tho

[azure oyster]

let me look at trello

[dapper otter]

oh yea we should

[steel bronze]

benefits of a trello:

+ less scrolling
+ more organization(?)
+ possibly more.

cons:
- we'd need to move shit and maintain stuff

[azure oyster]

can they hold files

[steel bronze]

cuz right now the main problem is that

we have a ton of theories

in giant docs

[wooden bobcat]

Or she failed to become machine again she doesn't want to be human?

[azure oyster]

yeah

[steel bronze]

we dont have each theory marked though

which causes

[bright quiver]

Pictures? Yes

[steel bronze]

confusion

and looping

[bright quiver]

That could also work

[azure oyster]

i personally think we should completely separate facts from theories and analyses

[vapid token]

Yooo it's intresting idea

[fading cipher]

at least now we sure what are we looking for

sort of sure..

[austere sun]

i vote against trello

[azure oyster]

EUGH--

[steel bronze]

why? i feel like that'd help making newcomers feel less overwhelmed

[tawdry narwhal]

i feel like this new video completely cancels most of the other side-theories we had

[bright quiver]

Bro we are not playing amogus

[azure oyster]

J A V A S C R I P T .

[bright quiver]

Fuck

[maiden marten]

why not github xd

[dapper otter]

ageed

[wooden bobcat]

That would explain what was the japanase person talking about

[bright quiver]

J script for web

[orchid cairn]

she says anata, you can hear it

you dont need to transcribe audio to listen out for the pronouns

[azure oyster]

javascript will forever be known to me as the scripting language which stole java's name specifically to compete with them

[austere sun]

literally a non-issue. or rather an unsolvable issue

[steel bronze]

guh?

[azure oyster]

and succeeded in doing so

also

[steel bronze]

its more of an organizational method problem which doesnt need to be solved

but might help

[azure oyster]

github would be harder for persons to edit

[steel bronze]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dapper otter]

ageed

[azure oyster]

because of pull requests

and the way git works

we're kind of all over the place

though

actually

[austere sun]

who is going to maintain it? you?

[azure oyster]

maybe it would encourage a more organized editing system

[vapid token]

Github will not be comfortable for those who do not know it

[steel bronze]

im willing to volunteer, i have experience in trello

[dapper otter]

everyone

[steel bronze]

and this too

[bright quiver]

Yeah that might also explain the state of what I assume is our protagonist, they're losing themselves, no identity in-between man and machine could exist, as there's only true human or machine.

Still that interest me, because that confirms that there's perhaps 3 characters

(The parent, the child, and the voice that begs the child)

[steel bronze]

you can make it so anyone can edit

[austere sun]

just because you volunteer doesn't mean you're going to do it.
abandoned docs are proof of that

[steel bronze]

have some basic guidelines

[obtuse basalt]

I went back to this, right?
we noticed it was the description for numbers, but curiously the only capital letter (Y) in the section listed does seem to be replaced with a ?, it doesn't look like a Y at all
It's possible that the capital letters are needed from here perhaps?

[austere sun]

literally this

[azure oyster]

okay i worked up the courage to ask jp chat

[dapper otter]

I think we should vote on trello or docs

[bright quiver]

It's the X=?, y=? Again fuuuck

[steel bronze]

but there isnt exactly any competing standards, we could just move to this or whatever

anyways

we should leave this aside

for now

andgo back to arg talk

[azure oyster]

hmm

[obtuse basalt]

and now we ask for z

[dapper otter]

yea

[bright quiver]

Yeah decide later

[tawdry narwhal]

bro what I see is an ♀

[bright quiver]

Wait...

Coordinates?

X, Y and Z axises?

[obtuse basalt]

xyz yeah teach me how to breathe

[bright quiver]

Holy fuck

[azure oyster]

i'm suffocating deep inside i can't deny i've tried to quit

[bright quiver]

Maybe you're onto something here

[azure oyster]

do you mean with the lyrics or just the "ask for z" message

[bright quiver]

watch as this leads to the final part accidentally and skipped everything else—

Both

[azure oyster]

the lyrics would make sense, since, you know, arg

[bright quiver]

Because we got an X and Y

Why those two?

[azure oyster]

the Y came from the spectrogram, right

or, technically, from the Numbers description, since it's actually missing from the spectrogram

[austere sun]

what what x and y we got, where

[azure oyster]

from where did the X come

[obtuse basalt]

It's not like we can find a value for Y, it's just kinda missing

[bright quiver]

Exactly

[bright quiver]

We kinda have a value for X

[steel bronze]

https://trello.com/b/kFMcv34X/neuro-arg-master-board <- for the neuro-arg-board, will try to go over everything in the doc and put it here, tomorrow

[bright quiver]

But it's still missing

[maiden marten]

it has Trello-like boards (Projects) and more features for tech-inclined people (but maybe difficult for average person, yeah...)

[austere sun]

bruh, why are you people analyzing numbers 2 description under spectogram, the letters are not actually capitalized

[bright quiver]

Usually X/number Means we're dividing something

[obtuse basalt]

it also might be that the font or whatever used to transcribe that bit of the description doesn't support capital letters for some reason

[bright quiver]

imagine

[flint linden]

Has anyone posted lyrics yet?

[steel bronze]

yeah i know but the other features will likely not be used

[calm parrot]

Oh god

I was supposed to go to sleep today

I forgot public static void was today

[flint linden]

You still can. ARG will still be here tomorrow

[azure oyster]

i still love that video title

[obtuse basalt]

oh wait.
From the soundcloud:

"Start from X. End with Y. Remove XY + odd one out"
I don't know how to apply that still, but keep it in mind

[austere sun]

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All of these years that I've been loose
Stuck in this world. can't execute
Language: en
Someone pull me out of this
Never-ending life still stuck in loop
Let's go back to being hu-
\\\
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Why don't you go back to your studies?
Why are you so afraid?
Got myself another test
Why are you crying?
♫ Na na naa na na na na
Never ending life still stuck in loop
Kind: captions
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All of this stress still stuck in bed
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You have already taken the red pill
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Some please help me fill the rest
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Why don't you stop procrastinating?
You deserve to be happy
WEBVTT
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
Is this not what you wanted?
♫ La laaa la

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I don't belong with all the rest...
Somehow I long for something new...
How does it feel?
Someone please help me fill the rest
To be the only one...
Please...

[flint linden]

take care of urself ❤️

[azure oyster]

java my beloved

[bright quiver]

You can't solve anything if you ain't sleeping

[azure oyster]

c# my beuntouched-as-of-now

[obtuse basalt]

those backslashes are there?

[wooden bobcat]

Let's go back to being hu-

[digital radish]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebVTT_API

[azure oyster]

Wait, there are more backslashes?

[austere sun]

that one was automated, this is how it is in youtube transcript

\\
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Why are you crying?
Why are you so afraid?
You deserve to be happy
Is this not what you wanted?
You have already taken the red pill
Why don't you stop procrastinating?
Why don't you go back to your studies?
Please...
Let's go back to being hu-
Got myself another test
Someone please help me fill the rest
All of this stress still stuck in bed
Someone pull me out of this
Never ending life still stuck in loop
All of these years that I've been loose
Stuck in this world. can't execute
Someone pull me out of this
I don't belong with all the rest...
♫ Na na naa na na na na
Somehow I long for something new...
♫ La laaa la
How does it feel?
How does it feel?
How does it feel?
To be the only one...
How does it feel?
How does it feel?
How does it feel?
To be so far from home...
Got myself another test
Some please help me fill the rest
All of this stress still stuck in bed
Someone pull me out of this
Never-ending life still stuck in loop
All of these years that I've been loose
Stuck in this world. can't execute
Someone pull me out of this
I don't belong with all the rest...
♫ Na na naa na na na na
Somehow I long for something new...
♫ La laaa la
How does it feel?
How does it feel?
How does it feel?
To be the only one...
How does it feel?
How does it feel?
How does it feel?
To be so far from home...```

[azure oyster]

What do you mean, "automated"?

By what?

[bright quiver]

Oh yeah this one doesn't have any number

This is definitely more of lore related

[azure oyster]

but it looks so out-of-order

[dapper otter]

wait is there something here

[azure oyster]

listen i don't know what youtube-dl is

[dapper otter]

the

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[azure oyster]

nor how it affects CC

[austere sun]

all questions to vanor, i didnt write the code

[obtuse basalt]

simulates generating of keys from the looks of it based on the timing

[azure oyster]

the backslashes show up in the keys section

[calm parrot]

I’m going to bed, i really wanted to take part in this one tho, so I’ll just hope there’s more stuff left to discover by the time i wake up

[dapper otter]

got to go soon

I have school

[azure oyster]

okey

[austere sun]

maybe have this pinned like numbers 2 lyrics? or does no one care

[dapper otter]

my notepad is rn not responding

[azure oyster]

i am bored so now i shall put the Numbers II audio into FL Studio and attempt to recreate it

and fail horribly because i suck at hearing chords

[dapper otter]

lol

[azure oyster]

okay that's an exaggeration

i will be able to hear some of the notes in the chords but probably not all of them

[red brook]

I'm not reading all this, but look at this:

4156  ?7?8993832792?

?7?8993832792?
?8993832792? ("seventeen is first": remove 17 from the front)
?899383279 ("add two, four": remove 2 and 4 from end)
?899383279 ("multiply by 9": divide by 9. this is where the first number is important. there will be two possible values that divide evenly and one of those will be ruled out later. assume 5 as the first number.)
-> 5899383279 / 9 = 655487031
655487031
655487021 ("make the two a three": replace 2 with 2)
120784556 ("flip the numbers backwards": reverse the order of the digits)
12078455 ("add another six": remove the 6. this also lets us know that "another" doesn't require that digit to be already present in the number)
2415691 ("multiply by five": divide by 5)
now the next instruction is "add another nine, add another line" and the numbers at the end are 1 and 9, so "line" must refer to 1
24156 (removed 9 and 1)
4156 ("start with two": remove the 2 from the start)

(edit: fixed a transcription typo. this does/did not change the results)

[dapper otter]

thx

bro

you are amazing

[coral hazel]

wow nice

[red brook]

I think the solution to Numbers is 1759032572147924

[dapper otter]

gtg now bye

going to school

[red brook]

(if I didn't make a mistake lol)

[vapid token]

What is the probability that at the end we will have to combine all the numbers into one big number?

[azure oyster]

#日本全般-jp-gen message
got the transcription

the word which they could not hear was probably "pill"

i am not super good at japanese so i am not going to try to analyze the grammar and such in this

[safe monolith]

If by combine you mean a bunch of crypto operations to two keys producing just one, then it is fairly high

[tawny pasture]

Got no idea where to start

[vapid token]

Why are they split into groups of 3 numbers

[native maple]

look at the numbers2 doc

[digital radish]

numbers 2 video reference

we found out what they nean

using the numbers 1 desc, we can turn 4156 into the full number and vice versa

[vapid token]

Yes, but why 4 groups for 3 numbers

[digital radish]

numbers 2 reference

[fast path]

what about the bars above existing numbers

didnt mean to reply

but like if we assume the b and the bars above the blob are empty characters we replace
what could the bars above existing numbers mean

[timber whale]

oh crap i overslept
just watched the video
we figure out anything yet?

[honest harness]

have we cooked yet, anything new unlocked

Or we back to SCHIZO mode until next banger

[safe monolith]

check the other thread for raw cooking

[timber whale]

theres a second thread? I wasnt aware of it

[potent cobalt]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1112401279680008242

[obtuse basalt]

It was meant to scizo numbers 1 but now it's the algorithm producer chat