#Neuro ARG
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i think it's huffman coding described in there
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Is there anything where i can read about the things that have been found out already?
drive link in pins
in my game activity have link
Ah thank you verry much
so basically nothing new solved since numbers 2 dropped 
We've sorted out a bunch of misunderstandings at least (: But no big solutions, no
(like viewing the base64-descriptions in chromium vs firefox i mean)
Numbers 2 is pretty gud lel
oh so i don't have to ask whether i missed anything
nice
i will ask, however, whether this is real
https://soundcloud.com/vedal-games
Listen to Vedal Games | SoundCloud is an audio platform that lets you listen to what you love and share the sounds you create.
saw it in chat
Well, static sama can be a troll (not official) so getting new info about her doesn't really help
yes, it can be
it's from 6 years ago QueenPb is an admin here
so pretty sure its real yeah
Vedal make some banger music fr
Could be, yes. As with most of our leads it's a long shot. We won't know until we know. The wrong move is not to scrutinize anything we've got.
yeah i definitely remember stumbling across the vedal-games soundcloud a while back somehow, i meant to say this when it was first posted about last night but i was falling asleep 
static sama might not be the real thing and is just someone who's trying to include themselves
Ye - There's a whole section on it in the docs
i don't really play much on soundcloud anymore so its kinda just stayed here
i wonder if todays clue will be by sadecsss again or maybe on twitter. or maybe i am just wrong
y u talking like there are daily clues?
per stream clues
it's seemed that way for a bit. I want to go over the past stream times and document this. After stream tho
I saw that vedal released a new video
did you check the new doc
you can check docs, in pinned messages
thx
i dont remember seeing it yesterday. but afaik twitch mods can add 7tv emotes by themselves
it's just an emote nothing special
no abnormal reaction when asking about engineer
uploaded by mezkal4pe as almost any other emote
welp
HIYORI STUDIES ENGINERING CONFIRMED
Excuse me what!?
a clue?
A real clue? 
what is that

how?
She's talking about being an engineer rn
Jan 2nd 2022


Never would the day come where people would be excited by this


Should i ask her if she wants to study or be a human?
-20k/-500 
For fun, maybe. But don't expect a hint. Vedal has made clear that it's not gonna lead anywhere (check docs)
yep
wait which doc?
It's in "asking people"
dont check docs, check pins, its right there
True, you don't even need to go all the way to the docs (also in pins)
every time neuro says numbers/study or engineer it's triggering fight or flight
What'cha mean? In her or you?
No, it only happened once.
I'm not sure if Vedal talked about the void eyes or something else.
I think vedal might have lied
im not sure too
Im checking the vod that it did happen in and he sent the message the same time she said it and her eyes flickered
???
what
probably since people stopped spamming about being something wrong with her AI and /
there was no other bug i believe
Concusion "Vedal" is hiding something on purpose
yep
lets see if anything will happen in the stream
wait what code?
other conclusion "Vedal" also doesn't know shit
lol

She reacted to it on a stream and acted like she didn't know, but for the model's eyes to flash like that, she or the rigger had to have added that?
Teru
Vedal programs it all to fit together though
Flashes aren't equal enough in length to be automated completely on its own
flashes?
rigger did void eyes on stream as evil neuro
and then consulted with vedal and they decided to get both void eyes and red eyes
where will the red ones come in? 
tomorrow
reacted to what
wait red eye?
The _neurosama numbers video
Neuro has the same info of her own arg as us
true
true
Copium-Sama confirmed
KEKW
hiyori
Nah?!
It's an emote lol
hey do you know that one frame block of text in the ''study'' vid at 31:11? well i typed it out the vertical bars are separators i think and ''?'' is what i use if i cant read the letters ok LETS GET RIGHT TO IT
D????IXHVQMu.s ' NIJLIXHVLIAA
QU?){xqZ?U?KI????I?XI
\D8W VTMMuO32NMLBDbHGI??<==8
MHHHDp ??F&ISHEY wuxanp??4t
AFNQONdn?_ IHE YNv?wWF8NMi FNO
NGPKJiHAoW)ONA?7IBY?x65j?Opo
???dwvI2oY8YX?NiLNLoninTN-L
na ?J?E?XIV=ECEQVUNNU?ZimME fib
HA?NDDB'I -:BY?708459?(LIOHI&fe
3b Iv?:xVL?LnckpongNML???X
VI NEWQNVOHH14P!m\OLMNNiOP?>Iin??NN7(
?765 RGFG/ on?*?G &?IRL''Y??_uiwju
ttAg???MLNAeocL? YiJ\0-8?iUTMq
QS?NNILDH ND = I??v()/43
ONooxxi)(h&?????IvI?T8C???non
mikJII3II? x M\ CHW\OVYXWYU7Mc3?G
(I WANT TO FUCKING DIE... nope just me again)
EMNU#DdiD (154ko&BL OA??-o?3
IIY?IuyonIYoni
any screen shot?
nope
check the docs guys
hol up 1 sec

they typed it out 
This appears in the Study video at 31:10 Transcription: D';M^"~~;{X2V0/eu,s*/(LJ%*j"XEVUAAb Qav<)(xqYonsrqj0hmlkjc)a^$#aBX|\U= Sw:VUTMqQ32NMLEDhHGF?'C<#?8<;:z8 1UTu-,+Op.-&+$)"F&f$#zy~w=uzyrwp654r qpRQ.ONdiba'^]ba`Y}]V[ZSwWP8NMLpJO NGFKJIHAeEDCBA:^>7}5Y98x6543,P0po' &%I#('&%${A!awv{zs98...
it was agony
appreciate all the help we can get, but please do read the doc to see what we've already discovered, thank you :)
...damnit
Just a fun fact:
wtf with alerts sounds? SCHIZO
Yes i found it
maybe a clue
Anyone can analyze the sound?
in the start screen there was a QR code that led to "Numbers" then after the debut "study" appeared
It's getting exciting
I mean that's the direct result of the location of the leading clue
every single thing in this sentence is wrong
OMG is this a clue?! 
the dono sound is scuffed today
don't know what to say thats what happened from my side
They are speeded up and as if under a filter
the two videos were already there
no i remenber clearly study appeared after
Not to mention she sounds more malfunctioning than in other streams
My guess is, evil neuro sama collab stream is going to have some clues
the vedal backstory theory sounds so goofy
I think this is the evil neuro sama's backstory
stream had 40 minute loading screen, probably to give us time to scan the QR
seems im wrong guess my memory is bad lol
oh really?
The thread wasn't shared with #livestream-chat until a good portion after the QR-code discovery in #livestream-chat. I suspect the timestamps are wrong. I'll look into it
i triple checked when i was making log, but it always turned out thread started before stream
that'd be so fricked
whats is "debut live stream" does this count the intro ? this is confusing
well the QR code at least confirmed it was an official thing
the channel was probably found before it was officially linked by the stream intro
I recall seeing the thread with just 1 message, when it was linked in #livestream-chat
that just sound improbably lucky someone must have had insider info
just found out that Ares is work in progress and ciphey is still the better option (at least for now) :/
this thread was made 18:17 utc and the stream started 17:33 utc ?
that was the clue
people forgetting abot the 45 min timer ig
i found the numbers video 19:56 GMT +2 idk what that is in UTC but it was from the QR code
schedule was for 7 pm bst, vedal started it 30 minutes before to build up hype, so that would be 18:33
twitch api response from the stream start
i also remember vedal saying he was almost late to schedule stream start, he can't have started 1 hour earlier
I was literally there
i am just schizo then
Oh wow, Vedal is old. 

Vedal really teased a lot
i have abysmally ruined my credibility. i will never recover from this. leaving this server after arg ends
Nah time zone and even time in general is hard
time zones 
time zones
When you look at a certain place in the world it really make you question wtf where they thinking with timezones 
I am honestly just curious about the lore with the ARG stuff, just lurking 
the lore is good i think we can all agree on that
also already 1 hour 30 minutes since stream started and still no movement anywhere. a losing streak
hiyori
Hiyori sama
lol
YO GANG
Here... if someone needs a ciphey working with PyPy(and already installed ciphey)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Qpb5g9DPf0dd2D-vm2PaIoaJgGyY3wOa?usp=sharing
||but I also do not promise that it will work 100% correctly... since I may not have fixed everything I could
||
Evil neuro is V1 neuro who is mad about V2 neuro leaving her behind 
Look what I found
Neuro-sama probably linked this twitch by mistake, go back - official: http://twitch.tv/vedal987
Neuro-sama probably linked this twitch by mistake, go back - official: http://twitch.tv/vedal987
Might be an ARG


Sure, note it if you wanna
you deleted aes thing? i guess it isn't that important
I could put it back if you think it is
No way this is not part of the ARG
probably not lol, but it's fun anyway
Worth following just to be sure
It's also sus that there's no video or anything on it
I mean, it could just be a redirect profile. They got a point. It's the type of thing Neuro would link to. So it's not sus per say. BUT is that a clever alibi? Dun dun duun
it was made 2023-02-03 and is just following vedal
neuro's twitter @ is NeurosamaAI so it could easily lead to confusion
someone new finding out about neuro through clips might not know who Vedal is
I mean didn't Vedal once said that he wanted to rename the channel ?
Maybe this is just to secure the name, that no troll can get it ?
why would he follow himself? One more follow? lel. But yeah, that makes sense too
the soundclound doesn't follow vedal soundcloud
Vedal Games isn't exactly part of the Neuro brand
I would like to be sure that it does not stuck... I use the -vvv argument
soundclowned
Dead end again))) well... we waiting numbers 3?
Clue 
clue
Right after that she said [filtered]. Totally a clue to filter the audio 
Translation: "Go fuck yourself"
Fuck it
Static is still a troll
So don't care about the thread
He's already so bad at doing it
why are you posting then
Just 4 fun
imagine not continuing in #1112988479140417567, that'd be 
To laugh at his helplessness
Bruh
This thread is so useless that I don't even see the point in posting it.
why are you posting useless stuff in the useful thread then 
Be that as it may, that is the place for the conversation, not here
There is only one thread with useful information here
That's a little unkind, don't you think?
You don't think it's stepping on other people's ideas to say that they're irrelevant, that only the elite thread is correct?
i like being stepped on i dont mind 
I wanted to make fun of static-sama
He is so desperate that he texts random people from the thread, lol
Be that as it may, you're also making fun of a lot of people here as a sideeffect
can we get over it
they just solved the whole thing and attentionwhoring by giving vaguest clues and being edgy
thats it
Can you do it in a special channel and can we stop this?
You are so gullible that I'm just shocked
So now you're attacking my character instead?
Of course we can stop it. Just admit that static itself is trolling
You are incorrigible
why is he living rent free in your head, if you are so correct why dont you solve this in the good thread instead
You got fucked once. Second. And you are still doing it.
Because I see that you can do all kinds of bullshit in a thread, instead of actually solving an arg
You have been rickrolled twice. lol
Ok
relax
dont gatekeep the arg
and theres no need to flame others for their efforts
i won't warn you twice
I just couldn't contain the accumulated 5 days of arg. Sorry
i get the frustration believe me
but jumping on other people only hinders the effort
take some time away and get a drink if you need
relax for a bit
go get some rest
i want you to enjoy this as much as i want everyone else to enjoy it
^^
i wish this thread could be renamed to remove those two question marks in it because the inconsistency is killing me
was anything tried with fibonacci encryption? the Number Thread Library doc details Fibonacci Replacement
one random thought i had was that 1 + 1, 1 + 2 from the numbers II lyrics is the first 2 step of the fibonacci sequence, assuming that you aren't starting on 0 + 1
I was also reading up on fibonacci encryption just now, it specifies that you skip 0 (haven't found official docs yet)
iirc it's one of those ambiguous questions that usually don't matter, so it's "left as an exercise" to decide where it starts
and, there's also flipping the encode/decode string around involved, as maybe Numbers I lyrics refers to... I have no clue, I'll have time to look closer in ~a week
I have only tried to replace the numbers with the Fibonacci degree when the golden section appears on the screen. I wrote in the docs
Neuro ARG
But it didn't work out

Okay, sorry for the nervous breakdown. I am going to sleep. Gl
Please take care
Sleep tight!
even i wouldnt go that far
I think the main problem is that maybe someone managed to get the answer, but because they don't know how to test if their answer is true they think it's bullshit.
hes acting like hes getting money from this
maybe we need tutorials how to check for answers and etc

wrong thread lomi ;)
Wait
I tried putting all the binary we got from numbers 2 into a Fibonacci decoder and it seems like I got something maybe useful?
I'm on mobile ATM so I couldn't screenshot this better
Idk if this is a lead or schizo
looks schizo. So it belongs here, mhmn, mhmn
Could you explain what it does tho? It seems like whatever the algorithm is it outputs just 4 different bytes?
even if it's schizo it still doesn't like that 3rd batch that is inverted
no matter where you look lyrics or interpreting neuros as binary, the values are odd there
I tried to see if there was any relation to a Fibonacci encoder and tried plugging stuff into there
hm. my mind is really leaning on this being a fibonacci encryption, given the spiral "clue", and the Numbers 2 lyrics 1+1, 1+2. there is no "standard" way though, this is mostly just an educational cypher, which doesn't seem too difficult
still, there could be any number of ways this specifically could be encoded, hence the lyrics I guess, which need to be figured out to get anywhere
Aah, okok. We should make a note of this then and try to explore what it means
There's also apparently a "Fibonacci word" thing I found from Wikipedia that could be useful (also might be schizo)
Ofc I'm prob going too deep into reading about this lol
noone knows what is too deep here 
idk already somehow I manage to get 17 first from strange things
At this point it's either something insanely obscure or something stupid obvious.
might as well go a little schizo and look around in some nook
"176344" - tell you something?
nothing is too obscure imo. I feel like this isn't supposed to be this hard, though I'm not a math guy myself. if I manage to get personal things done tomorrow, I'll read over the lyrics again with all this in mind, also looking up more info on Fib seq
Sounds like a plan
Looking forward to reading what you come up with 
i've been following the same plan for past 7 days 
some of the people here are real deep into decoding this, I love it
I always switch off this server sadly, because I know I can't focus on anything else reading all theories/drama in here D:
prob gonna look into some stuff again tomorrow too
Almost as if you gotta focus to get stuff done, huh? 
shame..
it really is! But when you return a hero it'll all have been worth it!
I think the Chinese are starting to catch up with the ARG
A chinese clipper upload 1 day ago a clip about the arg
honestly if they can do this - absolute gigachads if even we struggle to interpret things in english here
if all the numbers are out that have to be tried in different ways/permutations, I wouldn't be surprised, honestly excited about it
edit: I still don't know what permutation means exactly
The one that poped up in my recomendations did 1 day ago
All permutations of 1, 2, 3:
123, 132, 213, 231, 312, 321
cheers!
@fossil wigeon has leveled up! (4 ➜ 5)
lmao you guys are losing it
TRUE
🥔 a clue
👀
u is the one who developed these program
Anyway, waiting for a collab with evil, I wonder what Vedal will cook
Another hint? Donno
Neuro fights Hiyori
has anyone questioned whe he used yt pfp on sc? why not just blank default
sc?
SoundCloud
Not since last i checked nobody's written anything else than just that they're similar (check docs for most recent data)
well, i'll make a note, because it's literally a goofy screengrab of yt pfp
Instead of Vedal I would make something like 500$ or 1000$ for a clue lol
so no clues 
i guess i am just wrong about everything then. why even wait until arg ends, i can just leave right now
We're all wrong until we aren't. Don't lose hope!
wouldn't be surprised static is actually real at this point
lol
Since Numbers II dropped, i feel like i am even more confused and shizo than before.
Same

I feel you...
im mostly just here as math homework help at this point
I like the song, since it's creepy and in 3/4, but it feels like it should've guided us somewhere and we just don't know what to do
1 + 1?
1 + 2?
i have achieved enlightnement
You did ?
We all know who Alex is
Anything new?
Apart from a new hint on a soundcloud (Open in a Firefox) - pretty much no progress
"Make the 2 a 3" is weird. It's a loss of data. If we're taking the lyrics as instructions, presumably Vedal did the inverse to create the source of whatever we're decoding, but that would require him to change the 3s into 2s in the inverse, but not all 3s would necessarily have been 2s before that step, they may have been 3s.
Which implies it's not a crazy hard to solve script we need to build.
Unless "make the 2 a 3" is referring to either the 2 in "572943" or "Start with number 2".
Study Numbers 
Why Firefox because it's not based on chromium or maybe something with the debug console ?
Because Vedal said 
Firefox is not a chromium browser
Probably because the text wrapping is broken on chrome apparently
He was a fork or smth
I know
Open with Firefox is likely just so we can see the entire text
The original text has no line breaks, which can be confirmed in Developer Tools
Firefox doesn't even show all the text lol
It's all just one massively long line, which Chromium doesn't handle well
Firefox is based on the Gekko engine, which was created by Firefox itself... kind of like... it's based on the Netscape Navigator engine.
Not full fork, understood
pepeW it's 4am, i don't want tot be an engineer

gn
When are we renaming this to the seek help immediately chat
Engineer Awareness Group's Thread?
lol
just a meme btw
You should do the same but the trueold phrase
"Static-sams is a troll" and I don't remember the rest
WE should keep in mind that it can be a troll
kekwa
we arent schizo enough
not yet
Darn, well nothing came up in the audio. Even if it were an audio clue, the data is too messy from encoding artifacts..
But we have no idea about number
True..
We have many clues but we don't know how to apply them
I wish everyone good luck, I’ll keep researching stuff myself. We can do this!
@spiral silo has leveled up! (2 ➜ 3)
Wow, I don’t talk much..
wait new vid dropped?
Two days ago yes.
It has more clues, but still no clearer
Numbers remind me of like a 3D graph or something, but not sure
i saw on the numbers doc that theres a todo for separating the sequence into a transparent image, does that mean taking that image from the video and getting the golden ratio part of it?
i could prob try doing that but idk if itll get us anywhere
That confused me too. It would be helpful though
You can add it to images in the G drive
alright
Got early stuff tomorrow, so good luck folks. I’ll do more observations soon. Good night
gn
wait so have we gotten any leads from any of the arg vids? like has the code we got led to anything that isn't just speculation?
Speculation sadly
we really need answers don't we....
Hello friendos
any progress engineers?
lastest progress is, we know that firefox is a legit browser
I didn't even use it's for years. nearly forget about it lolz
just took another look at number #2 doc, and I'm very concerned about your mental state
any new clues 
no so far
i might look up if theres some odd one out algorithm stuff but it might just lead me down a rabbit hole
also using a google account makes this much more usable lol
hi
surely
oh wait this has some of the random annotations in it lol
yeah this is still 21 characters long which would be a weird number for a key
These quotes weren't there before, right?
it's been updated twice since i've had the page open
Oh?
"Open"?
it said [Open] in FireFox before being changed to "Open"
about when was it [Open] ?
~30 mins ago?
ty. Now noted
vedal, being awake at 9am? wtf
NEW CLUE
ARG outsourced confirmed 
oh shit
I tried "Open in new tab" on the background and got this as the file name
;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAABNgAAABkAQMAAABuPx8iAAAAA1BMVEX///+nxBvIAAAAJUlEQVR4Xu3AMQEAAADCIPunNsYeWAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOA88AABMGQBNwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==
Is this new?
the open is changing call everyone
all of those AAA, surely that can't be high entropy
it's just a png or other image converted to base64, and prefixed with data:image/png;base64,
right, opened a picture that was provided with inline base64 then?
just messed with Levels in GIMP, all white
yeah
Yeah also if you open image in new tab in other *soundcloud accounts you also get that base64 string
ah
well, it was entertainment for 5 minutes. Good job
a chrome plugin literally called "Open in FireFox" https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/open-in-firefox/lmeddoobegbaiopohmpmmobpnpjifpii
yeah but not with that weird capitalisation
where was this Open in Firefox string?
that's odd. I thought i saw the plugin in those caps before. Maybe i'm just getting old :dispair:
ah yeah am dum.
Seems like it dropped not too long ago. well, the "" part at least
chromium browsers support base64 data too, so for now, I think it was the base64 string not wrapping in chromium?
or that it didn't show the "show more" dropdown
yeah, same thing. someone did manage to select the whole "paragraph" in chrome, so no worries on that part
just triple click
Guess show more is only available if the text is too tall.
well there's an emphasis on open now
ye, we were just discussing that
hmmm
if a base64 string was an image/other file, I think the magic bytes programs would have picked up on it in Cracking
so I'm still getting Fibonacci vibes
firefox does have this feature
yeah but that's just for html files and the like
dump base64 to file as bytes and open it?
Maybe we where given an encoded html file? Just spitballing
I only dumped the Numbers I desc. into binary, but it's definitely not that, or at least not without other encoding of some kind
Doing this, firefox just presents the file as if you're trying to download it. It doesn't know what to do with the file
what does?
oh, that's the image tho lmao
ooh, i see now. Right, i was doing the base64 in the description field
what is that
just a technological sidetrack.
there's an invisible png infront of some text
iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAABNgAAABkAQMAAABuPx8iAAAAA1BMVEX///+nxBvIAAAAJUlEQVR4Xu3AMQEAAADCIPunNsYeWAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOA88AABMGQBNwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== converted to image
Do other profiles have it? It could just be a screen to make it hard for people to just rightclick and download people's profile banner
yeah
yes, just confirmed on a random profile.
the profile is connected to the arg

exactly, but a random profile isn't. So the presence of that same transparent image on another profile tells us that the transparent image isn't connected
i was making a joke
I'm bad at jokes :p
anyways anybody got any idea what to open
So recently the syllables have been really bugging me - Numbers II has a 3, 3, 4 pattern and Numbers I has *6, 6, 6, 7 pattern
This pattern gets broken by some lines (3, 5 pattern in Numbers II, lines of 10, 9 in Numbers I). But idk what it means 
I think Vedal meant opening the page in Firefox since if you open the page in Chrome some of the key in the profile description gets cut off
he put "open" in firefox
That is the most obvious explaination, yes.
Unless..
He added that after people discovered the soundcloud page iirc so that's what I'm assuming...
We should find why must Firefox
3,3,4 is pretty standard i don't know about 6,6,7 tho
@native maple has leveled up! (10 ➜ 11)
What's different between Firefox and chrome or Edge
not based on chromium
Firefox isn't chromium and as different stuff
yes,that's obvious
Meaning Firefox doesn't have all the Google LLC "quality" code attached to it
Turns out the arg’s sponsored by mozilla
I mean does firefox has any function that chrome doesnt have?
Maybe something else than the description get obliterated by chromium
not being spyware
you have multi account containers ig
oh also no manifest v3
I really don't think that will lead anywhere
that'd be a really situational clue that probably wouldn't work in an arg
I mean maybe they thought you can't see it on something other than Firefox but in fact you still can
The emphasis on "open" tho
yeah
You have unlocked new role
thats what buggin me
You have unlocked new role
EMBED PERMSS
You have unlocked embed
You have unlocked new role
So we tried all the images? What else can be "open"
uhhh
Correction about the syllables, it's "3 3 4" and "6 6 6 7"
"Open"... so strange.
maybe open something else besides the soundcloud page?
Hmm
nothing on vedals site from firefox lol
what about the description of number I?
wait maybe the fact its on soundcloud is a clue? this is really stupid, but maybe we open the audio for Study in firefox?
Like... the audio from the youtube video?... it should be the same on Firefox as on Chrome I think
yeah probably
yes, youtube converts that
wait does Firefox means the browser?
Is there another firefox?
there's firefox dev and nightly
👍
lol these comments are great
Where is this?
what
numbers comments
i can#t type
honestly i kinda feel like the second timestamps of each thing is relevant
oh, lol.
Could be. Nothing should be discarded
probably not
As big as any other theory
i can do a quick writeup in the numbers doc if you want
idk where in the doc it should go lol
its such a mess
Ngl this really fits with changing from human to artificial and the entire arg but at the same time feels like a stretch 
somewhere in analysis. if you wanna keep it short put it in bulletpoints
ok
oh my god i can't rtead
this is study
too much #1112401279680008242 is bad for you
you need a sandwich or a glass of water or something?
well,we could clean it up
not that it'd be very different from what i'm usually doing when i have the docs open lol
its fine
ill just stick a new heading onto the bottom
beacuse at the moment they're interlaced with the lyrics
so. what do the second numbers mean?
they didn't wanna get caught
🤨
not a clue. We did write a whole doc on it tho
is everything number an angel number or what lol?
i think a lot of the three digit numbers are lol
every single number is an 'angel number' yes
learnt that the hard way from the counting thread 
no way lmao. I can just imagine it
best is 757 because it has a banger 100 gecs song
god good this is so silly
like is this relevant or just 
not relevant i think
yeah sorry forgot that my main pc captures my cursor
wait, it changed right? the quotation marks are new
omg vedal987
yeah thats what we were tryna understand
happened just a few hours ago. was [Open] too for a brief moment apparently
ok, got ya
none of these firefox right click menus scream "arg clue" to any of yall do they
(ignore my arg container
)
what the hell do we open
our minds 
the only thing specific to the sound clound are
- "remove XY + odd one out"
- "open in firefox"
- the description with another Base64
- the background with the 3 first lyrics of the Numbers I, why the 3 first tho

- username set as "_" not as "_Neurosama"
only thing i could suggest is one of firefox's supported file types
(though im pretty sure it is able to open way more than this)
way more.
.ai 👀
yeah that doesn't even have pdfs
adobe illustrator iirc
imagine if there's no "unless" and it's just a reference to how to get the base64 in the description 
do we need to open the mp4 of the song in firefox ? nah that doesn't make sense
html?
idk
Didn't the Shannon entropy suggest that it's (semantically securely) encrypted or compressed?
yeah it was super high
oh, interesting
is that as base64 or when decoded from base64
because i thought it was much higher
Base 64
so it's 7.5 decoded which is low
i mean yea
Its out of 8 
brain slow
ok im getting mildly sick of angel numbers now
the theory is that its encrypted in AES right?
Ye
Do we have any leads that say that it's AES specifically?
No
guys i have an idea on the "open" in firefox
So we shouldn't discard other algorithms then
you know we can start programs by dragging files into them
u huh
Ye
Rar bomb time
oh actually that's a good poimt
by dragging it
i should convert these base64 things to binary and throw them through the file tool on linux
I think firefox would just download it
anything
I mean technically it falls just short of the encryption range, so maybe it's not?
maybe all of them
that would make sense for "open"
Maybe 
Progress?
only in ideas
a bunch of ideas, but that's it
did a silly
seems like a wild goose chase
yeah but a lot of them are suprisingly relevant to the song
though i guess the point of these numbers is to apply to every possible situation
oh shit
i use firefox lmao
does any of these compatible with what we have ?
erm
i'll put that in the doc just in case
i mean
I wonder if there is a connection between "study" timestamps in the description and the sequence with numbers in "numbers II".
The third set of neuros is upside-down as is the "uʍop uǝllɐɟ" in the video description, and if we consider it to be the 3rd row - then we might need to figure out the first set of neuros which corresponds with "???" timestamp?
roblox-player LEAKED
clearly
I totally agree that "fallen down" feels like it's connected to upside down Neuros in Numbers 2 
we should probably try to make it into a WebP it seem the most likely candidate
but what we are tying to make into a WebP
the Base64
surely this is a clue
What candidate are you talking about?
data? no way
candidate for this since we got the clue "open in firefox"
i don't see PDF or XML from that small text, i don't know what the hell AVIF is, and SVG it could be but idk
so winning
File uses the first few bytes (called file signatures/sometimes called magic) to figure out the type. A bunch of people already manually inspected it in a hex editor and found no signature
i was more looking to see if anything was executable
no way an encrypted file has no magic
though thats unlikely given how small everything is

Executables have headers
I can fit a shellcode in 20 bytes
can i run that 🥺
code golf has ented the chat
echo "hello world"
hello world
you can fit a hello world shellcode in just a few bytes yeah

silly little angel numbers
oh no
Azaka what's your opinion on the new clues 
what clues
the new video
I haven't even looked into it lol

vedal probably saw your stream and dropped the new clues
probably not
go watch, and then after that tell me what you think of shannon entropy 7.4.
lol
neuro is a friend with Youtube algorithm fr
this youtube comment actually has a good idea

yeah most websites do that
which doesn't mean anything cause everyone can just tap f12 
so next step is to apply for job at soundcloud
we probably need to be engineers for that
my math homework is solving differential equations, great
try to converted code to svg xml pdf. not worked at all - -
That immediately makes you more advanced than most of the population
plaintext should be detectable by just converting it to utf (or another text encoding) and viewing it. Other files should be detectable by running magic bytes analysis on it. It might be a long road if you test each type manually (:
wait... is there a tools like that
damn, It like im using shovel but everyone use the backhoe T^T
ye, i didn't know either. I asked a bit ago #1112401279680008242 message
lmaoooo
so we got a new base64 string and a confirmation it is in fact base64?
if anyone knows, can i get a timing for that. i dont trust myself anymore
So far it only looks like base64. I mean it probably is but we don't know for sure
any good strict decoder will immediately complain if it isn't
this only confirms that it's valid as base64. It does not confirm that it's not also something else
what does this base64 mean then. is it just firefox adding automatically
think of it like https://
except instead of fetching it it just uses the link itself as data
"here's how to handle what i'm about to say, not https but image data in base64"
or are you asking where it got the base64 from in the first place?
yes but also something else, i am not myself sure what even
The white background?
im gonna be honest i can't actually find the white rectangle in the source but oh well
wait, so is it just like a bug with soundcloud on firefox, that it opens this link when trying to open banner image in another tab, or am i stupid
no there's an invisible png that can't be selected infront of the artist info text
I presume the image is available directly inlined in the HTML as base64. That's why when opened it doesn't have a path and just shows that base64. We confirmed that it also exists on other artists' pages
though i can't seem to open the white thing in edge
it is actually everywhere on Soundcloud, home page also have this base64 png
so it is in fact "soundcloud-wide"
yeah exactly
im sure whoever made this ARG didn't change the entire soundclound stack
maybe it's just a clue to confirm it's Base64

ye, just clarifying what it is
i mean what do we have to open in firefox then
the soundcloud page. So the entire description is visible
what is different about firefox that it can show us something tho?
Is this like fr?
thanks, bred i'll put that in the docs. much better pic
right- but that doesnt change anything tho? couldnt we have just f12-ed it on any browser?
oh btw the one on the right is also logged in
i meant is there anything else?
i can get a ss which is logged out if you'd prefer
I think it's ok, but all improvements are always welcome (:
which browser is on the left?
i mean even in chromium if you disable Javascripts the description will show fully
perhaps its not to open something but something that is already open?
I've updated the doc to make it more clear
@hollow garnet has leveled up! (11 ➜ 12)
somehow I can feel ARG maker raging while read the thread lolz
"what's this, a grain of sand on the floor? It's a clue, it's a clue!" -- but the fun thing is, maybe one of those grains of sand really is a clue

I hope we manage to schizo them a bit as much as they schizo'd us 
also i didn't realise how massive my dm screenshot was lol
until they change it to "it was just a shill for firebox you schizos"
they are probably both furious and dying from laughter
why is there not a single result about invisible image in front of soundcloud description text 
yea i tried everything on the dev tools but couldn't find where it comes from
it's probably in one of the JS files/script tags
but really, i don't think that transparent image is anything
i tried this just in case
what else is there to open in firefox then.
the banner has nothing
like really the base64 description didn't need to be opened in firefox, just because it doesn't display correctly. i can still select and copy it just fine
these 3 js got Base64 png
idk if it mean anything, but each verse in the banner are all sum of 10 Syllables
so it is unrelated to arg
it's the lyrics from Numbers (1) right?
yep
maybe the 3rd of those lines is somehow the "odd one out"? (since it is only 9 syllables while the first 2 are 10 syllables)
O_o
Yeah but you can't do "show more" to see the entire thing outside of firefox
But why would they put quotes around "Open"?

Time to check the drive again
Idk 
Wonder if we've made any more progress...
wdym, on this screenshot the entire string is selected, not just the visible bit
I just mean the non-visible part
its probably just more clear that theres more in firefox

Yeah, iirc they added "Open in Firefox" after the soundcloud was discovered too
yes
Probably to avoid unintended misunderstandings
I think all of this is a Firefox promotional campaign
but why would you even need to see it with your eyes if it's base64, it's not like you can decode it in your brain if you see it
I mentioned that earlier too! the lyrics of Numbers 1 have a "6, 6, 6, 7" syllable pattern and the lyrics in Numbers 2 have a "3, 3, 4" syllable pattern (outside of a few outliers in both).
What do the syllables mean aisdoaijsdoij 
let it all burn, open in firefox Hmm
That's something to think about
Uh
it is a weird capitalisation of firefox after all
burn the fox!! burn the fox!!
I don't know how to help
thanks for trying tho
I'm sure Numbers 3 has all the answers 
like most stuff is usually Firefox
Don't worry, we'll get Study 2 soon
no
_nerosama 2 when
_nuerosama
__neurosama (someone's totally gonna squat that now lol)
real, doing it right now
xX_neruosama_Xx
are we solving an arg or doing some witch hunting

fair.
I call 'pon the Great Old Ones to solve this for me
Rise of kingdoms
time to get 17...24 power on rile of kingdoms to solve the arg
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
your are NOT static
smh
It's not a cipher
why are you summoning cthulhu
metal pipe is perfect
my humour is broken
idk where i was going with this-
maybe someone can take this schizo stuff further 
Definitely belongs in docs 
Maybe the Great Old Ones might know how to solve this
Honestly, this ARG is pretty bad. The stuff hidden in the images was super fun, but the encryptes messages are not. Its obvious the base64 strings are encrypted in some way, but we don't even know for sure which encryption algorithm was used (if any). The Fibonacci sequence is overlaid over multiple instructions, you don't even know when exactly you need to use the Fibonacci sequence.
The ARG would be interesting if we knew exactly where to decode it. The way is right now we try a lot of different stuff but can't even be sure if our answer is correct or incorrect because we might have used the correct key on the wrong encryption type. Yesterday the numbers 2 video came out, but it has the same problem.
Some clarification on how we are supposed to decode it would be great, the way it is now is just frustrating.
I mean, we don't have all the info yet
It's an ARG, not a jigsaw puzzle
The info will come or we'll figure it out
every time i see numbers 2 and remember the line 17 is first 
Me when Numbers XVII
Me when Numbers _D_L_X_XMMCMXLIII
now we need to pick odd one out of all the numbers vid
the first 4 r supposed to have bars over them-
That's not a valid Roman numeral 
it is :L
572943 :L
I think our (and my) approach to the ARG is a bit faulty in a way that I expect to be able to solve everything with the current clues - maybe it is possible but I think future clues we get will help us catch up and figure out more in better ways. Something something patience is key
almost 3k subs @_neurosama really going up in the youtube game
Oh, huh
Just a random thought I can't test atm (dunno if it have been mentioned before):
Maybe "17 is first" and "start at 2" is somehow a reference to fibonacci usually being coded with recursion.
although it is kind of a big reach with the "start at 2" part
recursion ?
roman numerals can only count to 3999, MMMCMXCIX
There is this for 4,000
as in, when running fibonacci it starts at 17 and goes through until a limit placed on 2(since it is done from top to bottom)... hence the "big reach" part
i don't remenber anyone trying from top down
not with bars yes. But with them it can go to 3,999,999
While I can't do much to help, I wish you all good luck!
I will continue to be here in interest
pov: most everyone in this ;-;
Fair. Never seen this stuff before, but it's there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals#Large_numbers
numbers II hapened in the middle of thz collab most people missed it
it was fun!
||until my parents found me awake till 2 in the morning ;-;||
schizo 2 electric boogaloo 
it was not fun afterwards-
bruh
me at 3 am
I DONT WANNA SLEEP
i have strict parents
also i have an exam the day after tomorrow so i need a sleep schedule 
dangit vedal you have ruined my sleep cause of this
sheeesh
I will say quick, since it reminded me
I don't know why we stopped using the word overmorrow
It's far more convenient to use
Same with ereyesterday
the meowing experience
Hell yea can't wait for the clues review electric boogaloo
we can see all of OBS 👀
nro arg updates?
So far we've got a lot of Numbers II documented, but no hot leads.
it's like everything is lead to stuck at one thing... the base64


