Neuro ARG

[digital radish]

oh well im truly silly

[rare glacier]

I'm not getting anything from the code.

[crimson tendon]

@rare glacier has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[timid swift]

water is wet. We're all stumped until one of us isn't

[digital radish]

do you expect it to finish in a few seconds?

minimum 12 hours

i make programs

i dont make them efficient

bred does it

[drowsy pewter]

Did you make frequency test?
It will pass the english check if it's just substitution cipher.

[crimson tendon]

@drowsy pewter has leveled up! (6 ➜ 7)

[digital radish]

thats why hes better

[digital radish]

?

[rare glacier]

Is it running it? im low iq with python, but i only see 'def'

[austere sun]

you mean entropy check?

[digital radish]

idk ill calculate all possibilites

[drowsy pewter]

Letter frequency test

[rare glacier]

i cant run it for 12 hours anyway 😦

[timid swift]

There's a bit about frequency analysis in the docs i believe

actually no, that was Shannon entropy

[digital radish]

how do i calculate all possible alphabets

[rare glacier]

You dont. You calculate the most likely.

[digital radish]

no

[timid swift]

If you do make one please put it in docs <3

[rare glacier]

that was a joke i have no idea

[digital radish]

i want to calculate the number of possibilites

[vast yoke]

Redoing work is good - that minimizes mistake possibility.

[austere sun]

isn't that just 64!

[rare glacier]

64! i believe

[timid swift]

But only if both versions are documented and compared

[digital radish]

64 alphabets?

no

[rare glacier]

no 1x2x3x4 up to 64

[digital radish]

theres

[austere sun]

64 factorial

[rare glacier]

64! is a bang i think its called

[digital radish]

64 letters

right

idk math actually

[rare glacier]

so its just the amount of letters with a ! at the end

[drowsy pewter]

@digital radish @austere sun
Every language has different frequency values for letters. You can count unique characters from cypher and see if frequency is matching with the english ones:
https://www3.nd.edu/~busiforc/handouts/cryptography/letterfrequencies.html
If it does there is a chance it's just substitution cipher (in other words original letters are replaced by different letters/characters etc.)

[digital radish]

26 random letters
26 random letters
10 random numbers
2 special characters (not random)

[digital radish]

how many alphabets can i get

[timid swift]

i mean, technically infinite

[rare glacier]

the factorial of 64 is approximately 1.2688693 followed by 89 zeros. i think

[austere sun]

no, actually it is lower than just 64!, but not realistically lower

[digital radish]

anyone wanna calculate the number of possibilities

[rare glacier]

126886932185884164103433389335161480802865516174545192198801894375214704230400000000000000 apparently

[austere sun]

there is nothing to suggest it is specifically English text, so

[azure jasper]

I'm trying to do that rn

[digital radish]

thanks

[drowsy pewter]

But I don't think it's substitution cipher.. we have too many characters and I checked we have here all possible characters that are available in base64 format

[rare glacier]

you know, not too let-down-y at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[misty dirge]

I woke up

What's happenin

[warped torrent]

yes this looks nothing like that

wild guess but wrong

[rare glacier]

why dont we go rent out the microsoft servers real quick or the azure headless or whatever its called

[warped torrent]

i'll rent my body headless

[rare glacier]

hmmmmmmMMmMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[warped torrent]

what are you guys trying this time

[rare glacier]

Brute-forcing the alphabet, I belive.

[fading cipher]

Hi arg how r we?
Still going insane with 0 progress?

[azure jasper]

Yeah, it's 64 factorial (which is 126886932185884164103433389335161480802865516174545192198801894375214704230400000000000000)

Just like everyone else was saying

[timid swift]

That's a lot of alphabets for base64. No way you're checking all those

[rare glacier]

Guys what about ms azure? then we can actually use our computers. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/overview

[warped torrent]

brute forcing is a waste of time

and your electricity bill

[azure jasper]

So yeah, even if there is a custom alphabet, we can't bruteforce it

[rare glacier]

Exactly, so we should use Azure

[warped torrent]

now you're also burning your wallet

[azure jasper]

Still a waste of time (and money)

[digital radish]

hm

[warped torrent]

do you know how annoying it is to keep your Azure bill in check without accidentally overspending by leaving it on

[rare glacier]

Or some alternative

[digital radish]

i only thing the random things are the numbers

think

[warped torrent]

like i said bruteforcing renders the challenge useless and unsatisfactory

[gritty ledge]

interleaved data streams?

[warped torrent]

it's like copying your classmate's homework

"yeah guys i did it woo only took me (not actually me tho) several days"

[timid swift]

If they wanna bruteforce let them. Maybe they'll learn something

[fading cipher]

I was wondering if the code in malbolge is actually the answer? Cause i googled Esoteric code languages and faund something that called rockstar that requires 2 inputs of plain text to decode

Well ill check it later when home

[timid swift]

I had a similar thought. Noted in the doc

[azure jasper]

Bruteforcing an ARG is like trying to solve a murder mystery by making every single human on Earth a suspect

[rare glacier]

OKokokokokOK we get it

[timid swift]

Be that as it may, people are free to choose their approach

[warped torrent]

i can tell you guys it's clearly a commonly used symmetric encryption method based on the decoded stream

[timid swift]

Elaborate.

[warped torrent]

if it uses some obscure encoding encryption scheme you can tell by just looking at it

at least i can

[timid swift]

Intuition?

[warped torrent]

yes

[timid swift]

Fair

[misty dirge]

I don't see a problem with that

[timid swift]

Intuition is fine as long as it's based on something :p

[serene fractal]

Brute is useless
Let's rent a dedic

Great logic

[warped torrent]

generally if it uses an obscure and or obsolete encryption/encoding scheme, a) the challenge creator will make it immediately obvious by dropping clear hints b) there would typically be a noticeable pattern within the data; there are only so many encoding schemes out there i've seen most of the stupid ones already

[timid swift]

How exactly would you characterise your experience, Azaka? I know from our conversations on #programming that you do something related to reverse engineering malware or something like that

[drowsy pewter]

Naaah.. say it to Noita fans who are trying to decrypt eye glyphs from years.
Burteforce is just like any other tool.. but the catch is.. you need to know proper constraints to get anything in reasonable time.. and calculating those constraints is also part of the challange.

[serene fractal]

In addition, we have already tried bruteforcing on very powerful hardware. The only option is GPU computing

[cursive valley]

good luck guys

[warped torrent]

several years of ctf challenges during uni years, spending majority of my work hours looking at state-sponsored threat groups' malware that's used every trick in the book to hide/encrypt/encode data to avoid static detection

[cursive valley]

i mean vedal is a "lv5 hacker" so

[unique mason]

well, goes to show vedal is just an absolute madlad

[crimson tendon]

@unique mason has leveled up! (8 ➜ 9)

[drowsy pewter]

That means this ARG could be 95 levels harder but it isn't.

[warped torrent]

i think you guys are overthinking this - such is generally the case for these challenges

some people will go to an extreme length attempting to solve a challenge when usually the solution is stupidly simple

[cursive valley]

maybe it is just a basic encryption which is easy to miss (idk)

[warped torrent]

and vedal isn't some playing some 5head 4d chess

[dire orchid]

obviously he's playing 5d chess with time travel and whatever that game name

[vapid token]

Wait

[timid swift]

I am certain of this. lel

[azure jasper]

Speaking of simple solutions, has anybody tried Vigenere with one of the clues as key?

[timid swift]

My biggest problem with vigenere is that I can't think of how to get it into a normal alphabet. It's a letter->letter cipher, no fun-with-bytes

[drowsy pewter]

I am of the same opinion. I don't see any reason why Vedal would want to use something more complicated.
If he want people to solve it he probably didn't use RSA or anything advanced.
Also I don't think Vedal is familiar with more advanced ciphers.. he probably used what's popular and most programmers know about.
Malbolge is a good example of that.

[austere sun]

but then we would have to wait for more clues and we can't have that, the zoomer brains demand action

[timid swift]

lel

[warped torrent]

get working then

[river mantle]

is vedal's "no elp" policy apply to Vedal-bot?

[rare glacier]

Is anyone planning on, tomorrow, asking Neuro if she wants to be an engineer again? or has it already happened?

[warped torrent]

engineer

[timid swift]

It's in the docs (check asking people to get to eye flutter)

[river mantle]

she said she don't want to be engineer, she want to be ultimate engineer

[timid swift]

I mean, I guess not but lul

Vedal-bot was the character all along

[dense cave]

Sorry wrong chat

[junior atlas]

Also, about ultimate engineer. Maybe Neuro can give us some information/clues if we do a proper prompt (and people can get this prompt by solving riddles that haven't been solved yet)? Just a speculation

[rare glacier]

hmmmm does fun ai correspond to something? or is the blinking some code weve never heard of?

[vapid token]

pins

[rare glacier]

Yeah. Wouldn't it be funny if someone gave her the dev mode prompt.

[fast echo]

send here a screenshot with Vedal message pls, i don't have much perms(

[warped torrent]

tldr stop trying to bribe her she's literally just an LLM

[drowsy pewter]

Stop trying ask Neuro about ARG.
Vedal said she won't help us with this.
He did this because poeple became little too annoying with all those donates.

[timid swift]

imagine reading the docs to not waste your money

[junior atlas]

I know what Vedal wrote. But still, maybe he lied, maybe he meant she won't give us clues for now. Just maybe in the future when people create a proper prompt using clues from riddles

[onyx goblet]

imagine reading the docs and waste your money

[warped torrent]

i've only done it a few times because i love seeing the reactions in chat

[timid swift]

Should've read the docs again

[warped torrent]

and i'm 700 subs too deep

[rare glacier]

whats vedal-bot, by the way

[timid swift]

You get one guess

[vapid token]

I think if she had the answer, we would get a clue what to ask her

[daring acorn]

im back

what did i miss

i just woke up

[drowsy pewter]

It's funny when it happen from time to time.. even just for funzies.
But it becomes annoying if every second donate is strictly ARG related.

[daring acorn]

i missed nothing didnt i

[warped torrent]

it's only gonna keep happening because people demand more hints from vedal

[daring acorn]

we still are nowheere

[warped torrent]

rightfully so because this is somehow the best and worst challenge i've seen

[timid swift]

No way, we gotta follow trails???1

[daring acorn]

yo no way

[rare glacier]

whats vedal bot i needto know

[daring acorn]

no way, we have to LOOK for stuff?

[modest pawn]

what if she just decided to give out a random answer, and we thought it's an actual clue

[dire orchid]

carl bot

[fast echo]

just discord bot

[warped torrent]

WAS THAT A CLUE WAS THAT A CLUE WAS THAT A CLUE WAS THAT A CLUE WAS THAT A CLUE

[digital radish]

carl bot has no clues

[drowsy pewter]

Vedal said directly he won't give us anything.. any clues, any hints.
And this also applies to the future.

[warped torrent]

yes but people will annoy him until he does

[drowsy pewter]

He will just add more filters and there will be even more timeouts xD

Or even bans if people become too agresive

[daring acorn]

yup

[timid swift]

imagine annoying vedal until he closes the arg

[daring acorn]

lol

sad

[light arch]

or he will jus post a silly video of him solving it

[timid swift]

with some filters to make it look like an old VHS

[daring acorn]

lol

[arctic canyon]

bad end

[timid swift]

I was thinking of the snow and green horizontal lines, but sure that too

[native maple]

we are no match for the level 5 hacker

[drowsy pewter]

Think about it that way..
Since he so stubbornly refuses to give us any hints and at the same time the ARG is designed to be solvable in a reasonable time. That could mean he hid there something what really is worth the effort.
If that would be just lore.. I think he would already give us a hint or two.

[rare shard]

Someone checks if there's clues in Abandoned Archives?

[timid swift]

The reward is a free steam key to abandoned archives

[plucky bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-worthless-gravity-falls-dipper-pines-worthless-gif-25136060

[rare glacier]

so... why are we working in a team

[dapper wraith]

or it just reveals the release date of abandoned archives

[timid swift]

lel mean!

[native maple]

it would be nice promotion if there is actually a clue in abandoned archives we could try to do a marathon of the game

[timid swift]

I mean you could look, but that'd be P2W, not exactly a good look

[arctic canyon]

I think we should re-trace the places Vedal drove to in Trucking Sim irl

[limber torrent]

so, ditches, barriers and cars?

[onyx goblet]

and crush exactly like him

[rare shard]

If things is as far back as he said, then there's maybe something in AA

[rare glacier]

hmmm but wouldnt that be d2w

[daring acorn]

lol

[arctic canyon]

I can see the BBC report now "Major crash on the M4 this morning, witnesses claim the driver was moving irrationally and appeared to be talking to themself throughout the rescue, screaming about an 'ARG' and some people they only refer to as 'Neuro-Sama' and 'Vedal'."

[rare glacier]

why is that actually funny

i wish there was a suprise stream today

[dire orchid]

usually there's surprise no stream instead

not the other way around

[rare glacier]

wut

[onyx goblet]

infamous mystery collabs

[timid swift]

mystery collab with static-sama

[rare glacier]

yes

and static speaks in code

for a bit

[daring acorn]

wait whats going on now

[timid swift]

Read above for context

[rare glacier]

Anyone got anywhere?

[cursive laurel]

I tried to use twitch clip ids as keys for decription, didn't get anything
I gave up

[timid swift]

You think we'd just sit on it if we had something? :p

[rare glacier]

You might not have gotten a big clue, or anywhere in the mission you're doing. But, something might help with something else.

[daring acorn]

oh lots of JOKES

comedy

[steady fossil]

The sad thing is we might have already suggested the correct solution before, but the instructions in the lyrics are so ambigious we are unable to correctly apply the solution

[onyx goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-guts-berserk-gif-25103745

[rare glacier]

Malboge seems like it might lead to something else later.

[timid swift]

This makes me wonder if we only need an approximation of the correct key. Like how we approximated the transcription for malbolge and corrected as the program partially outputted something that made sense

[rare glacier]

Yeah, would make sense.

[steady fossil]

That fully depends on the cipher, if it truly is AES then no way you would get anything other than garbage unless you have exactly the right key

[rare glacier]

I think Malboge should have the "solved" not the SOLVED tag, as it seems it will be used later.

[steady fossil]

if the lyrics represent the cipher algorithm itself, then yeah maybe

[timid swift]

No i don't really think so either. it seems like something with higher sematic security. Not a simple substitution cipher

[arctic canyon]

So it turns out, generating every potential combination of capitalisation is quite an intensive process and produces quite a few results

[steady fossil]

it could still be a substitution cipher, it's important to remember that the high entropy implies encryption OR compression

[rare glacier]

Sooooo did the method not work?

[timid swift]

n^2, i guess?

[crimson tendon]

@timid swift has leveled up! (29 ➜ 30)

[timid swift]

🍞

[steady fossil]

which one?

[daring acorn]

hmmm

[rare glacier]

WAit are you bruteforcing or not oh i forgor imstoopid nvm

[crimson tendon]

You have unlocked new role

[arctic canyon]

ok it finished at 50,000 lines phew

[steady fossil]

also for anyone saying a substitution cipher would be easy to crack, that only applies if the output was text, if a compressed PNG or JPG was encrypted using a sufficiently complex substitution cipher then it's far from trivial

and would also account for the high entropy

[dire orchid]

you can post pictures now

[timid swift]

I never even thought of substituion cipher on anything else than letters lel, but i guess it's as possible as anything else

[dapper wraith]

wouldn't "normal" images still result in a lower entropy than ciphertext?

[rare glacier]

Thanks

[steady fossil]

Nope, when I analyze a regular PNG it actually has higher entropy

can't get much closer to random than that

[arctic canyon]

Truly, generating letter combinations is what my CPU was built for

[timid swift]

that graph is in dire need of horizontal labels x)

[steady fossil]

Try it yourself if you'd like, just open a file as input (square with arrow in the top-right) and this will show you the entropy: https://gchq.github.io/CyberChef/#recipe=Entropy('Shannon scale')

[daring acorn]

i wonder if we'll actually get somewhere today

[timid swift]

nah

we'll get nowhere until we do and that might be a while. So i'll just assume no and keep at it

[daring acorn]

lol

[dapper wraith]

interesting. I guess I remembered wrong.

[rigid moon]

It will still have lower entropy than a failed decrypt though

[arctic canyon]

It's done

[fresh shore]

[arctic canyon]

A fresh 1.8GB word-list how tf am I gonna send this

[steady fossil]

I don't think it will, the encrypted data already has a lower entropy nevermind a failed decrypt

[timid swift]

I think you can hang onto that one for now lel

[rare glacier]

.zip and GitHUb?

[arctic canyon]

I'll run it through the decryptor locally see what it does

I hope there's not too many false positives

[rare glacier]

Yeah

[rigid moon]

Entropy of some random PNG was 7.969720971270907, entropy of a failed decrypt of the same size is 7.9999496943223125

[light arch]

i only understand 69 in there

[rigid moon]

Bar the zlib stream of the PNG the header chunks provide enough of a difference for it to be distinguished from just noise

[steady fossil]

hmmm, yeah I'm making the incorrect assumption that the unencrypted PNG or JPEG would have as much entropy as my images have, but that may not be the case since it could have lower compression or more metadata in its header

[digital radish]

@rigid moon thing is the ASCII of decrypt doesnt include any PNG or file format

[daring acorn]

we probably wont get anywhere lol

[digital radish]

our best option is somehow find a custom alphabet

[arctic canyon]

I need a better way of detecting false positives on decrypted files this won't work otherwise, what are you guys doing?

[rigid moon]

entropy, it should work even only with the first 32 bytes

[digital radish]

for now ill only randomize the numbers in the program

[timid swift]

Googling esoteric cryptography schemes

[digital radish]

and hope i get somewhere

also i found something out

[arctic canyon]

oh yeha that makes sense

hey one of these files derypted to just straight up full on UTF-8 text

[rare glacier]

????

[arctic canyon]

73bkcMx.

[digital radish]

all the "valid decodes" of the b64 string are only text

[arctic canyon]

That was with the password eyebfaaydeactttt it's almost english even

[digital radish]

hm

has a dot

[daring acorn]

ima just casually watch everyone and talk from time to time

[digital radish]

continue

ill have lunch now

[timid swift]

It'll be obvious when you have a result

a bunch of random is nothing :p

[digital radish]

i am 99% sure its b64 with custom alphabet

and 60% its the numbers we have to change

[arctic canyon]

Being obvious is one thing but ther'es so many to check

[glad horizon]

guys I am going to advertise my method again
I think that lyrics from Numbers video are instructions for block cipher
please see the doc, I want some critique
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1haiT--yrMQAhPNJlqa5JU5FbEwrkOOWWBg8FHP1vXB0/edit#heading=h.s7n1ne1w291v

[digital radish]

please check that ^^

im really hungry

bye

[rare glacier]

help me decide what i want to eat to keep me alive

[daring acorn]

wait whats being checked

ima check the docs rq

[timid swift]

Read above

[daring acorn]

how much above

[rare glacier]

Do i want a) nothing b) apple juice c) snacks d) snacks and juice e) bread

[arctic canyon]

e

[modest pawn]

probably right where the link points you to on the doc

[fast echo]

a

[steady fossil]

I think it's a good lead

[rare glacier]

yes but then ill not be able tothink

[dire orchid]

ok then b

[rare glacier]

i think d or b

[velvet beacon]

a

[rare glacier]

ill go with b if i have any

[dire orchid]

why even suggest things you don't have

[timid swift]

why even ask us is my question

[rare glacier]

i think i have at least a bit

[daring acorn]

pain

[rare glacier]

i cannot make decisions, i overthink them

[timid swift]

roll a dice

[rare glacier]

like WAY WAY too much

[daring acorn]

damn

[uncut cargo]

How are y'all schizo 5heads

[daring acorn]

we're more schizo than ever

:)

what about u how r u doing

[uncut cargo]

Nothing really

[rare glacier]

ok break over back 2 work

[uncut cargo]

I checked whether void sama flickering was binary

as expected, nothing

[daring acorn]

r.i.p

[rare glacier]

maybe its some other on off thing (not morse or binary)

[daring acorn]

maybe idk what it could be though

[uncut cargo]

binary and morse are the only things using "two digits"

[daring acorn]

oh

[uncut cargo]

but anything is possible

[rare glacier]

hmmmmm for some reason i feel like its either a red herrig, or somethng custom revealed later, after the numbers desc.

SPEAKING OF THE NUMBERS DE-

[uncut cargo]

I wouldn't be suprised if the eyes were a red herring

[daring acorn]

I just wanted to be an engineer ;-;

[dire orchid]

the whole ARG was a red herring

[uncut cargo]

imagine

[rare glacier]

WAIT WHARRRRRRRg???????

(YEAH i know thats a joke)

[daring acorn]

lol

the whole arg was a red herring the real arg is somewhere else

[timid swift]

the whole goal of the arg is to catch all the red herrings until you find the one that one rainbow trout

[daring acorn]

true

[dire orchid]

[tawny pasture]

No good catches

[rare glacier]

yeah but what if the fun ai thing links with something else which links with flitter

[uncut cargo]

we're not fishing anymore, we're diving and catching fish with our own hands

[rare glacier]

im basically just a conspiracy theorist, lol

[timid swift]

more like trying to throw the line into the air and expecting to catch seagulls. We've been taking some pretty big creative liberties.

[daring acorn]

lol yea

[timid swift]

Gotta find the trail again and see where it leads. "What if" is good, but maybe we should base it on the clues given

[uncut cargo]

Im also still trying to find overall lore implication of this

and I have some ideas

[rare glacier]

wouldn't it be funny if neuro did EVERYTHING in the arg... like EVERYTHING (or did she)

[daring acorn]

probably not but it would be funny

[rare glacier]

im guessing it was vedals idea to make an arg or is vedal just neurosama's butler? i have so many theories and questions

[uncut cargo]

Main 3 options are

1. metaphor of vedals life or something
2. Arg is a remnant of V1, or airis, or both
3. Vedal is a partial villain in the story (I made a theory about this before)

[daring acorn]

i think its number 2.

[warped torrent]

Evil scientist gone wrong

[hardy burrow]

more like mad scientist

[dire orchid]

start with number 2 yeah

[daring acorn]

im pretty sure theres a video of vedal showing a clip where airis neuros prototype is saying very selfaware stuff

[uncut cargo]

there is

[rare glacier]

3 would be cool 1 unlikely cause that would be investigating him, right? so maybe 2

[daring acorn]

i just cannot find it

pain

[uncut cargo]

yeah I think same

[timid swift]

it would be selfaware-sounding stuff for now. No awareness, head empty

[daring acorn]

lol

[uncut cargo]

I believe my theory that "study" could be metaphor of AI learning is pretty good but again just a theory

[rare glacier]

what if the fotd is a hint

all of them

at some point

[past grove]

Hi everyone, any progress or new ideas ?

[rare glacier]

meh

[uncut cargo]

at this point I'd be suprised if there was progress

[rare glacier]

#2 is most likely.

[past grove]

You can never know,
sometimes the answer is direct before us,
and we are just to blind to see it

[uncut cargo]

I also noticed something

[rare glacier]

Yeah?

[uncut cargo]

three more years

now when was Osu AI first video made?

2019

[dapper wraith]

we can't solve the ARG before 2026

[uncut cargo]

when was first neuro sama stream?

december 2022

3 years

[rare glacier]

2025 and 2022 have SOME purpose

[dapper wraith]

but wasn't aires in 2019?

[past grove]

I mean would make sense

Airis is runing 3 years and then got replaced by Neuro

[rare glacier]

We need the exact dates, anyone know them?

[uncut cargo]

checking...

[dapper wraith]

first neural network stream was 05/May/2019 18:46 according to twitchtracker

[rare glacier]

cause then they are strings, strings is subistution sooooo then we can do stuff

05052019

[daring acorn]

hmmm

[rare glacier]

ya see thats fine cause month and day are same, execting the other to be aswell

[uncut cargo]

again IM repeating myself from yesterday, But when I listened to "im not like the other girls" I think I heard a "he" instead of "I" in the lyrics

[rare glacier]

so maybe 12122022 and 05052019 but obviously need to find it

[uncut cargo]

and when you replace the "I" with "he" there

it gets a new meaning

[rare glacier]

hem not lheke the other gherls

[dire orchid]

first stream as vtuber is december 19th 2022

[daring acorn]

yea

[rare glacier]

05052022 and 19122022 or 05052022 and 12192022 which does vedal use

[uncut cargo]

anyway can someone listen to the part "im not like the other girls" and say what they hear?

[calm parrot]

Listening rn

[uncut cargo]

so I can confirm whether im wrong or not

14:30

[calm parrot]

Sounds like a very clear “i” to me. You sure we haven’t all just been listening to the same 3 songs long enough that we’re finally starting to have auditory hallucinations?

[rare glacier]

it wont load

besides what does hem not like the other girls mean? is it a vtubers name? is it nothing?

[dapper wraith]

I think he means "He can only guess" instead of "I can only guess"

[rare glacier]

ok

[uncut cargo]

yeah exactly that

[rare glacier]

he can only guess

vedal can only guess

VEDAL IS THE ENEMY

[daring acorn]

LOL

[rare glacier]

we are back there'

[daring acorn]

VEDAL IS A CRIMINAL

/J

[calm parrot]

Idk. It sounded like a very clear “i”. Especially after i put on headphones.

[rare glacier]

VEDAL CANNOT GUESS WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE TRAPPED IN THE STREAM... THATS IT! VEDAL IS THE ENEMY!

[daring acorn]

lol

[rare glacier]

im being serious ._.

[calm parrot]

But maybe I’m just the first one to finally go fully crazy

[uncut cargo]

Does someone have Study on mp3?

[timid swift]

if they did they would probably put it in docs

[rare glacier]

check docs

[uncut cargo]

oh right

[rare glacier]

ill download if need be

[uncut cargo]

xd

[rare glacier]

so is it there (please please please please)

[uncut cargo]

there is an mp4

[rare glacier]

@uncut cargo oh go to files and get the mp4, then use cloudconvert or smth

[uncut cargo]

thats all i need

no difference

[daring acorn]

i have a mp3 of study

[uncut cargo]

its a static image anyway

[daring acorn]

:P

[uncut cargo]

too lazy to change format

[daring acorn]

i didnt put it on the doc but i got one

[rare glacier]

why do you need an mp3 anyway @uncut cargo

[uncut cargo]

now

[rare glacier]

yes that does sound like he

[fossil wigeon]

1st time listener, that's a 'he' imo

[uncut cargo]

I MIGHT NOT BE CRAZY

[rare glacier]

same

[daring acorn]

what sounds like he in it

im confused

[rare glacier]

the video

lyrics

[uncut cargo]

"If only HE could guess"

[raven bay]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-screaming-gif-11035878

[daring acorn]

who is he refering to

😮

[brazen cedar]

i hear i

[daring acorn]

VEDAL

[fossil wigeon]

after 10th listen, I can't tell. I went off the 'h' sound, the voice gettin weaker there,but I'm not sure lol

[daring acorn]

he i evil

[brazen cedar]

but i could also hear he

if i try hard enough

but mostly i hear i

[rare glacier]

ok can you guys stop sending imgs now im getting white screen cause bug'

[timid swift]

If vedal wants to be sadistic he could choose not to release the lyrics after the ARG is over

[daring acorn]

true

[rare glacier]

IF ONLY VEDAL COULD GUESS. VEDAL IS THE ENEMY, TRAPPING NEURO

[uncut cargo]

I didn't even explain my theory YET

[daring acorn]

OMG ITS VEDAL

[brazen cedar]

imagine if the lyrics we have have like
lines that are way off

[rare glacier]

OK explain it faster then!!!!!!111!!!11!!!!!!

[uncut cargo]

WRITING

[rare glacier]

brb

[daring acorn]

I have a true theory

VEDAL IS NEURO, NEURO TOOK OVER VEDALS MIND AND VEDAL WAS TRAPPED IN NEUROS BODY!!!! /J

this is a joke

[warped torrent]

i'll be looking into the numbers stuff again later

[brazen cedar]

honestly in numbers
im starting to hear '572143' instead of '572943'

[rare glacier]

no its a good theory!!!!!!!1!1!!!1!!! (joke)

[fossil wigeon]

is there lyrics somewhere? because shortly after, I hear "become his(?) ___(?) to all these members/numbers". not closely following the arg, just kinda looking at the clues

[warped torrent]

you're starting to hear things

[daring acorn]

lol

[warped torrent]

[brazen cedar]

and slowing it down i hear an 'o' sound

[timid swift]

You should've been here when the QR code dropped lmao

[rare glacier]

hmmm stop confusing me

[brazen cedar]

and not like a 'nai' sound like in nine

idk can someone take a listen

see if im not just hearing things

[rare glacier]

no i dont want to right no

im sad

[daring acorn]

lol

[rare glacier]

becuase of how confoozled i am

[fossil wigeon]

Yannie/Laurel 😐

[daring acorn]

im quite confoozled, quite utterly bamboozled

lol

[timid swift]

or the 4/5 incident

or j/h/g

[rare glacier]

what if 'he' is referring to static

or someone else that has popped up

in the arg/appeared in the arg

[coral hazel]

alex /j

[timid swift]

See you at the heat death of the universe lmao

[rare glacier]

shouldnt all numbers appear?

[daring acorn]

true

[rare glacier]

oh i see

[digital radish]

its only doing numbers

[digital radish]

dw its not alot of combinations

it wont be that long

[past grove]

What is the rate per min ?

[digital radish]

idk

[daring acorn]

lol

[rare glacier]

its++1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x10 combinations i think

[daring acorn]

wait what u tryna decode

the long thing from numbers?

[digital radish]

nothing

[plucky bronze]

how's the progress?

[daring acorn]

oh ok

[rare glacier]

Theorising

[digital radish]

thing is

how the fuck can i multithread

[daring acorn]

we're becoming game theory

but vtuber theory

[rare glacier]

we need matpat

[fossil wigeon]

I just thought of dividing up the range to however many cores you have?

[daring acorn]

email him /j

[fossil wigeon]

and launch that many processes

[rare glacier]

i dont have an email for him

[daring acorn]

r.i.p

[digital radish]

its python

idfk how to multithread

[timid swift]

extra rip

[dapper wraith]

check multithreading or multiprocessing in standard lib. should be fairly straight forward

[brazen cedar]

i forgot i dont have embed perms

yipee

[spring pasture]

any progress

[rare glacier]

someone with twitter, contact matpat

[timid swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1113799695718957137/neuro-sama-blinking.gif

[brazen cedar]

324/1000

[past grove]

[daring acorn]

yes please do

we'll wait

[brazen cedar]

grinding chat messages

[rare glacier]

i have no twitter or social media

[fossil wigeon]

It'd still work I guess, windows (or w/e else) would juggle the different processes between cpu cores I think. If you had 8 cores, all processes would step the value by 8, but 1st would start at ...001, 2nd at ...002 and so on.
psa. I have never done multithreading

[daring acorn]

bro only has discord-

and probably twitch

[rare glacier]

yes

[daring acorn]

lol

[rare glacier]

well sis but whatever

[daring acorn]

im waiting for that one person who created a discord acc just to solve this arg

[uncut cargo]

again I think that this whole video is a metaphor of AI learning.
There is a" If I only I could guess" in the "I don't want to be an engineer" that could be refering to AI guessing what's a good answer or what's not, after all AI doesn't know what is a human answer
But you can hear (imo) " If I only he could guess" in the "Im not like the other girls"
Both then follow with
"What’s right should I stay
Three more years just to waste away
Become a slave to all these numbers
It’s overdue, it’s overdue, yet I say I’m fine"
Because of the 3 years and osu AI appeared in 2019 Lets assume its talking about neuro V1 debut
The "I" could be refering to AI guessing the most human answer, if she gets it wrong she will be forced to another years of learning and fixing also risking deletion
The "HE" could be refering to vedal guessing what's wrong with the code and/or thinking whether its worth trying just to waste another 3 years

[rare glacier]

i created a discord then stepped onto the arg thing

[crimson tendon]

@rare glacier has leveled up! (4 ➜ 5)

[daring acorn]

neat

[rare glacier]

yeeEEEEEE!!!!!

[daring acorn]

and LOOK A CLUE

😮

Leveling up is 100% a clue

idk what to do so i just joke

[daring acorn]

good theory

[rare glacier]

yes, matpat would approve

[daring acorn]

indeed

[uncut cargo]

I also think the "I think I saw a ghost" and the other girl could be a reference to Airis

[daring acorn]

Well the most prevalent theory is that it's basically vedal venting about university, but it could also have a double meaning that ties into Neuro in someway.

[daring acorn]

im pretty sure the two images in study are the same girl

ye

[rare glacier]

Who has Twitter

[daring acorn]

and ye it probably is a reference to airis

[daring acorn]

[rare glacier]

to ask matpat lol

bcus matpat is crazy

so yes will give ideas

[uncut cargo]

after all airis was scrapped for neuro sama so it would explain why the AI (neuro) would see a ghost when learning

[rare glacier]

and get ideas

@uncut cargo yeah

[daring acorn]

I don't think this is his kind of thing, unless you just mean trying to DM him or something

[rare glacier]

ye

[uncut cargo]

I doubt that will work...

[rare glacier]

still worth it

[daring acorn]

neuro is still seeing remants of airis

probably in her own mind and all

[rare glacier]

even if we just laughs

[daring acorn]

yes dm matpat about it

[daring acorn]

he probably wont do anything but stil

The true og neuro

[rare glacier]

i have no twitter

[daring acorn]

was that in the original osu streams?

Ye

Before she became a Vtuber

Omg its prototype neuro

real

[rare glacier]

someone go steal their mums phone real quick please (joke)

[dire orchid]

that was neuro cam™️

also vedal really liked to put trademark on things™️

[rare glacier]

woah look its a hint ---->

[vast yoke]

Corpa

[daring acorn]

Look where?

vedal gonna rename neurosama to neurosama™️

[daring acorn]

omg edited

[dire orchid]

that's just trademarking

[daring acorn]

edited is a hint

[uncut cargo]

Anyway Im saving my theory in my notepad, I had enough being schizo for today I'll go play some genshin impact

see ya guys

[dire orchid]

see ya orangebot

[rare glacier]

goodbye

[daring acorn]

have fun with anime girls bro

lol

[rare glacier]

yeah lol

[azure jasper]

matpat would make a video where 50% of theories are stolen from us and the other 50% is stuff like "Study's lyrics are vaguely connected to the Holy Bible, which is why Neuro is literally William Afton"

[daring acorn]

im too dumb to come up with ideas ngl

but i try

[timid swift]

who the frick is matpat, people keep prattling on about them

[rare glacier]

just give him the info and ask him to theory it

[daring acorn]

bro doesnt know gametheory, uncultured

[rare glacier]

game theory

[timid swift]

oh, i know game theory. Not a fan tho

[vast yoke]

Virgin Matpat vs Chad mossbag.

[daring acorn]

lol

we will ask matpat

cuz its funny

[coral hazel]

I fell like it's kind of made up theorys
now lets talk about message in statics on the video /j

[spring pasture]

Neuro isn't a game so it's wouldn't be on game theory though

[rare glacier]

OK heres the mission: steal mums phone, messssssssge mapat through twitter (or make a twitter account but meh)

[daring acorn]

vtuber theory

[rare glacier]

MATPAT NEEDS TO MAKE THEORY THEORY

[daring acorn]

@copper vault About to have an aneurism

if someone actually twitter dms him

[dapper wraith]

1. steal moms phone
2. send "save me..." to any possible phone number
3. ????
4. ARG solved

[brazen cedar]

mfw matpat connects a real historical thing with the most random game

[daring acorn]

they'll be a chad

[spring pasture]

[copper vault]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-screaming-gif-11035878

[rare glacier]

thats what im trying to get people to do tho ._.

[daring acorn]

bro i thought you were joking

but ok

lets do it

[dire orchid]

doesn't know game theory, based

he fell off

[rare glacier]

so someone make a twitter account

go to matpatgp

whilst we make a message'

[azure jasper]

1. steal matpat's phone
2. leave a note with a link to the arg
3. return the phone
4. watch matpat becoming even schizo-er than before
5. ???
6. BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY

[rare glacier]

7. thats a great idea but

ok making a matpat message how should we format it also should it go in asking people for cleues

[daring acorn]

we asked matpat

he told us to f*** off /j

the end

[rare glacier]

doubt but ok then

[daring acorn]

he probably will be nicer than that

or ignore

lets do it

[rare glacier]

ok lets make the message then

we should provide the gdrive link, yeah?

[copper vault]

8. You take this matpat shit up to #general-network cause it hasn't even been a week yet

[daring acorn]

yea

hmm

[timid swift]

lol, grand has had enough

[azure jasper]

"Hey, there's an ARG mystery related to a popular streamer Neuro-sama, we would appreciate if you help us solve it" or something like that

[daring acorn]

yea probably like that

[timid swift]

"Ps. we're not talking on behalf of the whole community when we say we'd appriciate it lel"

[rare glacier]

• gdrive link

[coral hazel]

o no

[fossil wigeon]

tbh, "passing it on" to mat feels weird to me? like, "we tried some stuff, nothing yet, halp", while it hasn't been too long either. don't take this the wrong way, my 2 cents

[timid swift]

https://tenor.com/view/tried-nothing-flanders-out-of-gif-9662944

[daring acorn]

matpat is our only hope

[rare glacier]

itll take us a while to make the message, dont forgor

[copper vault]

at least 5k messages in this thread are ARG unrelated or just pure memes

[rare glacier]

@daring acorn just dont forget the bruteforcing we are doing as well

[daring acorn]

true

even though im just spectating cuz idk how to bruteforce myself

ngl

lol

[timid swift]

I know. Next time I participate in one I'd definitely be trying to separate conversation spaces more

because

single

post

messages

fill

a

lot

of

space

[warped torrent]

btw remember not to use your main account when creating the document

[rare glacier]

OH NICE

[digital radish]

its been running for 30s

[warped torrent]

we can see your email and name

[timid swift]

said this several times lel

[rare glacier]

i was gonna ask why, but...

[brazen cedar]

what abou comments

[copper vault]

its my alt account

[digital radish]

honestly you can email me all you want

[timid swift]

there doesn't need to be a why. It's good to be anonymous on the webs

[digital radish]

ill block you

[dire orchid]

that's too little

[dapper wraith]

the other channel is attempting to make a git btw #1112401279680008242 message

[azure jasper]

But yeah, I don't like the idea of messaging him. 1) he already probably has, like, thousands of fans sending him theory-worthy stuff, so he probably won't notice it 2) it's only been a few days, we still have time

[daring acorn]

lol

hmmm

[rare glacier]

dont forgor itll take a while to notice anyway

[timid swift]

It would be appriciated if you don't take drastic actions on behalf of all of us lel

[arctic canyon]

I'm making a competing one https://gitlab.legitcorp.com/neuro-arg

[gloomy yew]

"Yo mat, the famous creator of AI vtuber Neuro-sama Vedal dropped an insanely good ARG, check it out, totally worth it" this way sounds better, more hype, less hopelessness

[rare glacier]

yes

and add the gdrive somehow

[timid swift]

can we drop the mat-talk?

[daring acorn]

oh nice git has tools to help

[dapper wraith]

I think they want to replace the whole docs drive instead of just git for tools

[daring acorn]

i prefer drive

[rare glacier]

same

[daring acorn]

git should just be for housing tools

[warped torrent]

only displayname

[daring acorn]

if people move to git im staying on the drive

smh

[brazen cedar]

grea t

[warped torrent]

so comment is technically fine

[brazen cedar]

good thing my display name is just rein

[warped torrent]

you probably shouldn't be announcing that either

:x

[timid swift]

epic selfdox

[past grove]

They want to replace doc for safety meassures

[rare glacier]

yeah i mean i get it, but come on

[copper vault]

Or we can just make a whitelist
Since a good portion of people in this thread doesn't really help

Or whitelisting isn't hard

I say around < 20 people

[daring acorn]

hmm

[timid swift]

For the google doc you mean?

[past grove]

Would say around 40-50 some are asleep right now.

[worn bison]

GUYS

[crimson tendon]

You have unlocked new role

[past grove]

You have unlocked new role

[daring acorn]

new role you have unlocked ye

[gloomy yew]

Tatsu troll

[worn bison]

WHAT IF VEDAL CREATED ARG WHEN HE JUST GOT DRUNK

[rare glacier]

what

[dire orchid]

then it's a good one

[daring acorn]

lol

[copper vault]

https://tenor.com/view/kel-ill-end-you-omori-gif-21167165

[past grove]

Plot Twist. Anny created the ARG

[dire orchid]

i definitely didn't help

sorry

[daring acorn]

but shes clueless but ok

[worn bison]

AND THE CIPHER IS A RANDOM COMBINATION OF SHIT

WHICH TURNED OUT DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE FELL ASLEEP ON THE KEYBOARD

[daring acorn]

lol

[worn bison]

Okay, the moment of schizo theories is over, thank you for your attention

[gloomy yew]

the description code is just tired Vedal slamming his head on the keyboard after finishing too long dev stream

[rare glacier]

yea

well done, you found the arg answer. (joke)

[worn bison]

EXACTLY

[obtuse basalt]

Oh boy I can't wait to see progress in the arg

[worn bison]

[worn bison]

We've already solved it, it's just the drunken nonsense of a turtle

[daring acorn]

lol

[rare glacier]

it was so easy, lol (joke)

[worn bison]

Will there be a stream today?

[fierce trout]

no

[daring acorn]

theres a stream tomorrow

maybe it will have clues

[worn bison]

((

[rare glacier]

unless vedal feels like its opposite day and its a suprise stream today

[daring acorn]

:O

i hope so

[obtuse basalt]

I'm honestly hoping I'll stumble across a key but highly unlikely
I've convinced myself that the description of numbers is a vigenere encoded base64 all because "ddlc did it once"

_neurosama stream today

[pearl mesa]

surely shylily has all the clues we need

[daring acorn]

wait

what

[rare glacier]

guys should i make an ARG server not this

[daring acorn]

guys

[dire orchid]

no

[daring acorn]

look at the twitch schedule

wtf

SECRET STREAM?

clue

[timid swift]

we're getting a little off topic

[rare glacier]

i cannot watch that lol

[dire orchid]

that's always there

[rough vapor]

hello everyone

[daring acorn]

oh ok

[rare glacier]

or least dont think so

[dire orchid]

also you guys should just talk in general or smth

[copper vault]

Im gonna ask mod for temporary power

Some of you have to go

[gloomy yew]

It would add even more chaos since those channels would coexist with the server

[daring acorn]

damn

i wanna actually do something productive

[dire orchid]

you can let me go i can only organize docs and stuff

[daring acorn]

but idk what im supposed to do

[copper vault]

you literally said you can be the librarian for this thread yesterday

[daring acorn]

oh

[fierce trout]

guys why does every song have the same guitar loop

[daring acorn]

yea

i forgo

im going to do that

i didnt sleep well last night, sorry.

[worn bison]

LOL IS IT CLUE??

[copper vault]

Also keep this thread on topic
This isn't #general-network

[daring acorn]

we'll try to keep it on topic yes

well i will

[copper vault]

If you don't think you can be helpful in solving the ARG or decoding

Don't clog up the thread with meme/unrelated topic messages is already a massive help

[daring acorn]

ok

[timid swift]

I'd say make a meme arg channel, but this server actually already got plenty channels that are quite nice already. Exploring them is a lot of fun (:

[rare glacier]

#memes maybe

[obtuse basalt]

becauze vedal didn't want to completely make a 34 minute song
Possible that the factor the songs get slowed down is a value to keep track of, but it might also be to emphasize a sort of "everywhere at the end of time" effect

[rare glacier]

it exists so maybe arg memes go there

[daring acorn]

maybe

[hybrid scarab]

Alywas been there

every week

[daring acorn]

didn't know

;-;

[hybrid scarab]

it's oki you fnf enjoyer

[daring acorn]

ok

[hybrid scarab]

fav mod

[daring acorn]

my fav mod is... vs sonic.exe

when it was good that is

not with the drama

[hybrid scarab]

Indie Cross/Trollge Files/Wednesday Inifidelity

[obtuse basalt]

vs camellia

[hybrid scarab]

[daring acorn]

nice

those are good mods, that is correct.

[uncut cargo]

okay hello again

[hybrid scarab]

yes they are

[uncut cargo]

I had another idea after taking a brake

[daring acorn]

what is idea?

[rare glacier]

hey orange, whats the idea?

[uncut cargo]

First I took every first letter of the songs list from yesterday's stream

[daring acorn]

interesting.

[obtuse basalt]

Taking a brake? Like from a car?

[rare glacier]

interesting!

[uncut cargo]

thought it could be mixed alphabet

BUT

weithout a key its useless also

[daring acorn]

true

we gotta find the key

[misty dirge]

All an act

[rare glacier]

run it through bruteforce? or am i not knowing what u r talking about

[uncut cargo]

here are the letters

[daring acorn]

ur probably right.

[uncut cargo]

BWOGPICKMCPPCBaTBCsUA

[obtuse basalt]

Schizo

[uncut cargo]

if someone finds a key somehow

if this even works xd

[daring acorn]

plus u may have gotten some letters wrong

unless you did it 3 times

[obtuse basalt]

I feel that the ARG should rely on stuff we find within the ARG anyway

[rare glacier]

thats enough letters

[obtuse basalt]

Though the first letter thing might be good to keep in mind
I know I've tried using the first letters in the malboge code output as a vigenere key

[daring acorn]

oh ok good

[dire orchid]

personally i think the arg don't go this far, but go on

[daring acorn]

u got it correct

[fierce trout]

vedal's name is jack?

[copper vault]

yes

[timid swift]

Unconfirmed afaik

[copper vault]

jack Vedal

[misty dirge]

Jackal

[rare glacier]

so bwogpickmcppcbatbcsuaBWOGPICKMCPPCBATBCsua[numbers]+/

[timid swift]

but it's irrelevent either way

[obtuse basalt]

I won't do that thanks

[dire orchid]

wikipedia says it so it must be true

[velvet beacon]

wait a minute vedal has a name?

[obtuse basalt]

Wikipedia is never wrong

[copper vault]

the source of the information came from an interview video with Vedal so if someone wants to verify that information they can

[obtuse basalt]

Veedal is his real name, pedal medal Vedal is his screen name

[daring acorn]

yea

[timid swift]

Oh, ok. That's not the source on wiki. It cites deadend news articles. It was discussed in one of the main channels a while ago (presumably for the millionth time)

[uncut cargo]

well if it is mixed alphabet, a key is needed
Im checking eye flicker codes rn

[daring acorn]

true

[rare glacier]

why do we need a key? im confoozled

[copper vault]

one of the news article does trace back to a japanese article

[obtuse basalt]

I know a separate attempt at encoding a custom alphabet was made via the Numbers lyrics

[timid swift]

Guess it must've been fixed then! or maybe people couldn't read

[uncut cargo]

as expected dead end, Im too lazy to go through all the docs searching for potential key

[dire orchid]

oh well

[daring acorn]

pain

[uncut cargo]

but its weird some start with capital letter and 2 or 3 dont

[copper vault]

they are probably talking about the other article where the author name is unknown with no profile pic

[daring acorn]

true

[azure jasper]

Alright, I'll make a python script that tries everything we found so far to decode the numbers video desc, will drop it in the numbers thread once I'm finished

[copper vault]

somebody already did it

but feel free

you might do something different

[obtuse basalt]

Pray for hits anyway

[daring acorn]

good luck

[arctic canyon]

good luck

[fierce trout]

guys am i schizo? i started counting how many times neuro opens her mouth in the video Numbers (i counted the mouth open after each cut as individual openings of her mouth) and when she opened her mouth for the 17th time the line 17 is first was sung in the song

[rare glacier]

i dont know, why you trying it? thinking the song amount (21) is a hint?

[fierce trout]

no i was bored

[daring acorn]

oh ok

[rare glacier]

oh

[daring acorn]

at this point

we try everything

[uncut cargo]

We are actually checking under every rock

[fierce trout]

is there really a puzzle?

[uncut cargo]

I mean, a guy went through 50k frames of study checking for anything

XD

[daring acorn]

true

[timid swift]

We probably should check the rocks around the puzzles though, instead of wading around in the nearby ocean

[uncut cargo]

we can't get anny more schizo

[daring acorn]

we should check in past streams

unless we already did

like

before neuro v2

[rare glacier]

we need to check past streams agreed

[fierce trout]

maybe the interview of vedal?

[fierce trout]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy-9Of46w4A

[timid swift]

:spiralingSchizo:

[rare glacier]

interview of vedal ---> amount of letters has to be somethig i bet you

[uncut cargo]

wait

what about987 in vedal NICKNAME

[fierce trout]

maybe the breath in the mic is morse code!!!

[uncut cargo]

?!?!?!?!?!

[obtuse basalt]

Neuro V1's original artist must have something to do with this

[rare glacier]

what about the songs letters numbers

[fierce trout]

GUYS MAYBE WE DONT NEED TO DO MATH WITH THE LYRICS OF NUMBERS

[rare glacier]

who made the neuro v1

[fierce trout]

maybe we jsut need to ignore all the steps

[rare glacier]

987 has to be something

[daring acorn]

hmmm

[fierce trout]

and concat all the numbers

[rare glacier]

we need to start again with all our hints

[timid swift]

Honestly, thought about it before.

[fierce trout]

17257294395623924

[uncut cargo]

I don't think Im fine anymore

[daring acorn]

im dead

[rare glacier]

?

[fierce trout]

17 is first but the number is 17 numbers long!!! 🤯

[rare glacier]

AND THE 17H TIME SHE OPENS HER MOUTH IS THE 17TH LINE!!!!!

[cursive laurel]

987 is 16th fibonacci number, but what does it mean

[fierce trout]

ITS ALL 17

HOW OLD IS MOMOSE HIYORI

[daring acorn]

guys the answer of the arg will be given out

on june 17th

real

[rare glacier]

YOU SURE ITS NOT 17???

[uncut cargo]

either way

that's an interesting observation

[cursive laurel]

I didnt count the zero, so 17th

[fierce trout]

guys momose's birthday is the 18th of september

[daring acorn]

true

[fierce trout]

does this mean somehting

[rare glacier]

@daring acorn no the 17th month duh

ITS ALL BASED AROUND 17

[daring acorn]

omg urright

[rare glacier]

WEVE GOT IT

[daring acorn]

but theres only 12 months in a year

so

the 17th monh

[rare glacier]

THE KEY TO EVERYTHING ISnt 42, ITS 17

[daring acorn]

would be

[rare glacier]

MAY

[daring acorn]

yes

[fierce trout]

WHAT HAPPEND ON 17 MAY???

[rare glacier]

neuro debut?

idk

[fierce trout]

no thats 27

[daring acorn]

something must of happened on the 17th may

[rare glacier]

NO, ITS ALL 7!!!!!!!!!!

[warped torrent]

we vc now btw

[daring acorn]

oh ok

[rare glacier]

what if neuro started beta or smth on 17th

im not joining the voice

so tell me anything important

[daring acorn]

i might join soon but not rn

ima keep talkin here for now

[daring acorn]

maybe

when did the first osu ai stream happen

[fierce trout]

neuro did karaoke on 17th may

[daring acorn]

SO THAT MEANS SOMETHING IS IN THAT STREAM

[rare glacier]

uhhh OK WE GO SOMEWHERE NOW

[daring acorn]

quick get the vod

[rare glacier]

FUN AI 6 ohhhh

sad

whats happening in the vc @fierce trout

[fierce trout]

idk

[rare glacier]

anything we need to know

no speech?

[fierce trout]

azaka is trying to solve abcdefg

[daring acorn]

i think they're streaming stuff on numbers

ye

numbers

[rare glacier]

OH I FORGOR ABOUT ABCDEFG

[fierce trout]

maybe a connection to the song ABCDEFU?