#Neuro ARG
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Oh what
lol
It actually ended D:
yea it ended
I thought there is going to be arg
are you sad
no, the arg is next stream duh
void sama could be like shadows from dont starve or something
It waits until our sanity drops low enough to kill us all in dreams 
so whos ready to look at the vod for clues
I watched all 2 hours, 34 minutes and 12 seconds waiting for numbers song or I don't want to be an engineer
But instead I got trolled
its ok
i did too
so wanna look over the vod for clues, JUST INCASE, there are probably no clues
but i want to make sure
Go for it! (: You need nobody's permission :p
kk
im probably just gonna skim through it anyways
too the parts that are interesting
time to look for random text with video ids in it 
wheres the part where she talked about being watched
At the end 
its strange i'll give it that
cuz she says "in a who or what is here way"
so could she possibly be refering to spirits or something
Hey, you don't have to give us the minute by minute rundown x)
Possibly, another thing I noticed is the animation while she's saying all this
;-; sorry
No it's fine
Her expressions and the way she looks around feels very intentional
true
Or maybe I'm just 
both can be true.
i rewatched that bit again, she has the normal smiling expression, and the movements dont seem to correlate
so
i dont think its intentional
Well remember that there is only a set amount of movements, so I think he'd be limited in what he could use to express it
Does someone have the ghost audio file ? Want to check something
The main thing she did that makes me
is how she looked towards the chat box and back. That along with how she said this only at the very end of the stream even more so.
Also vedal stop lurking
true
hey guys, I found a curious guess, look: 1) Description is in Base64. When decoded the output is divisible by 8 which might imply the use of some encryption algorithm. The key then has to be in the riddle.
2) The riddle mentions Abcdef, which must refer to the A1Z26 encoding (i.e. A=1, B=2, etc...).
3a) 572943 could be the number that we're supposed to edit. Then "start with 2" might mean that we're supposed to start editing from character "2".
3b) "Multiply" only makes sense if we're working on a single number, but it has to be broken up at least once because "add another line" basically means separating the numbers (or maybe it means add hex for '\n' (10)?). I feel like at some points we want to consider numbers as a list, but for multiply consider them a single number? Fellow programmers, what do you think?
3c) Does "add" mean "append" to the number or "sum" to the number from previous operation?
4) Whatever solution to the riddle you get it's a long string of numbers. Converting them using A1Z26 yields results similar to what the Vigenère Cipher usually outputs, but I couldn't get any comprehensive results or keys.
vedal is a professional lurker
you have a point actually
thats interesting.
He must dying of laughter looking at us 
Thats a bit unsettling.
Vedal if your'e there give us a sign 
These are all good ideas, we've attempted a lot of these combinations with a lot of different ciphers, but there's still more to try 
Why did i even read it in the middle of the night
XD
imagine he actually clicked the reaction
As intended
Refuses to say anything else lol
Clicks on reaction, refuses to elaborate
imagine
Totally not a hint
#1112082183235047506 message
Object object 
imagine the amount by which this investigation would be shortened if the videos had closed captions
true
What if her backslash language is code 
wait
Kidding
wasnt there a part in the stream where vedal said "dont know why that happened" cuz of something neuro said
what was that part
Yeah I saw that but don't know what he was referring to
pretty sure its cuz she said something like "(.)_"
or something
o i c
I think was the dono TTS skipping to the next right while neuro answered the first
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wha
you don't have enbed perms

@golden quartz Basically you need about ~90 reasonable messages (no stickers) to get role with perms.
ye
To be honest I don't know how I have perms when I barely typed in this discord before today.
LOL
I don't chat much so it'll take me a bit.
r.i.p
you don't seem to have the role. maybe subs always have embed perms? 
Naaah.. you will see.. you will get it in no time
This community is very open for talk
i got it in the same day i got into the server-
i will never get it 
lol
about "add new line thing" I had a theory that the key will be the sum of those two numbers. Fibonacci sequence is basically a sequence of numbers ,which is a sum of previous two on the loop. Moreover, in the study video we have 3 years repeated twice, letters XYZ, ABC and numbers 5,4,3 which I think is a reference to Pythagorean Triangle - pure example of Pythagorean theorem c2 = a2 + b2 sum of two square numbers

You already have it
I though it was a timeout of 2 minutes between messages for them to count
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So splitting up your messages into individual words shouldn't gain towards Embed perms
for some reason, i like to shorten my messages but this one is in one sentence :P
Sounds like a good idea at least
Found it, it's in #1095956760763846701 message
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Yeah, that does make sense!
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How'd you figure that thing with divisible by 8 indicating encryption? I'm apparently too dense to google it properly
Only this specific ⭐ emoji counts
What is divisible by 8? The length of the decoded bytes? The binary value converted to a number?
I just though why is "Study" duplicated
like only "Im not llike other girls and Im fine" differs
why repeat the segments?
cuz its like corrupted
almost
well yea it is corrupted
you can tell by how it slows down at parts and speeds up at others aswell as the glitches
I mean, it could be as simple as wanting a clean cut of the song and then the arg-y part after. We can only speculate for now
what im confused about is how the instruction right after "add a new line" is "multiply by 5"
I think it's supposed to represent Neuro's mind being reset or something. Like, her memory was erased and she started the whole thing again without realizing it. (And yes, I'm new here, this is literally my first message in this discord lol)
ohh pythagoras is a possibility, yeah
valid
but I am thinking if the video sections are the part of the "Numbers" video
as in the instructions what to do and how to manipulate keys from the "Study"
like its songs we are talking about here
then "add another line" makes sense
output
v
output
output
v
output
output*5
It's just example
so i did think it could mean repeating the previous instruction 5 times
however the next time we multiply is after "make the 2 a 3, yeah"
you never have 9 twos to turn into threes
true
can you explain this, i dont understand
Listening to study for this long might unironically start making some of us very sad over time I think.
"add a new line" can just mean "duplicate current line and add it below" or something like that.. that's when "multiply by 5" right after it can make sense.
don't ever say that... To each his own... and no one forbade you to read information to improve your skills
ok..
oh so like
5
5*5 = 25
so it outputs 2 numbers
yeah.. it's just an example how it can be interpreted
i have trouble processing information due to some issues i have, but, its good im trying, right?...
right?
so im going to keep thinking of stuff that may not work but at i at least try to do
:)
hey guys
@daring acorn Feel free to read the docs.. you will get a lot of knowledge from there and you will avoid trying things we already did.
i've already read the docs
how possible is it to keep all of this preferably in 1 thread
Well, currently we're in two threads, so we're 50% of the way there 

theres 3 now
Not including those static-sama guys, those guys are weird
I don't know who they are
there is enough chaos in this one, we don't need more in this thread
it can easily fit in one thread if people stop spamming off topic
Yeah, whatever became of those guys 
static sama stopped responding
#1112988479140417567 is basically retired
and 3rd came beacause of new branch of riddles - static sama
What's wrong with 2-3 threads?
Those are related to different things. This is true they all are about ARG but they were created because there were too many topics at the same time.
For example people from "cracking numbers" don't want to talk about "static-sama" and stuff like this.. It's healthier the way it is (when threads are separated).
I mean, I agree, but convincing people of doing that is going to be a whole different puzzle than the arg
organisation is important here, it will get only messier
yeah its chill I can understand the need
this is the general thread
one of them is focused solely on cracking numbers
the other is just static neuro
I don't mind talking to the numbers cracking guys but those static people are onto some whole other different thing, that's not even part of the arg
nothing about these threads is organized, we already have documents that should be the organized place
Anyway, we need a new lead 
The docs are very nice, good job everyone
i wish discord search wasnt this terrible
Except of course for...
the 30/05 Balls incident 
pls someone motivate me so i can keep trying even if i feel like im getting nowhere
cuz i want to do something productive for once
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If we had a Neuro soundbite of something like "good job guys keep it up" that would certainly be motivational... 
yes that would motivate me

both 
Ask Kaz? lel
It's too late

hi
Hello new person! Welcome in hell
holy shit thats alot of stars EDIT: SERIOUSLY THATS ENOUGH STOP
thats enough
please stop
Hi, i like beans
But seriously, we need a new lead
i found one
That's more or less what I tried extept I just stripped the add another line part. I then tried to use the results as a number or converted into letters as a Asa key, but it didn't work. I might try again, but use the numbers as induvitual values and not a whole number
Yea yea right, bring out the joke message, im waiting

I suppose y'all already tried using different solutions to Numbers as YT video ids?

Hmm that was a big topic yesterday
youtube ids? 
it is?

We can't keep everyone informed dude :p we'd need a newsletter for that
well it'll be on the doc, right?
I hope so!
finaly a constructive idea
I'm full of them! Just that you have to vade through all the garbage to get there 
But in all seriousness, we'd have to create a tally of events so we know what to put in the newsletter. But then that'd be silly, people can just check the tally
we're already working on that afaik
I wanted to suggest making something like a wiki. Like a doc, but more organized and easier to navigate. But idk if that's necessary
day 14 report we have nothing 
future: day 100000 report: we have found a BRICK!
"day 987, we still have nothing, Vedal just gave up and dropped us an entire walkthrough"
Yes, i would prefer an actual wiki too. But we also need to get people to use it. That's kinda why i snug in the wiki style of linking between articles from the start.
Imagine eventually vedal gets so bored of us being unable to solve the arg that he makes an alt to help us without us knowing its him
a wiki would be nice tbh
but for me a wiki is harder to edit
;-;
People who use "Comfortaa" font in Excel are exciting people
What about those who use it in google sheets?
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lol
Meant either. In the same way you don't say "Yeah I'm gonna open Libre and work on my homework" when you run Libreoffice.
Man, world's easiest podcast to get caught up on.
Excel == Spreadsheet
Ah, I see you write Javascript
lol
Yes, which is why I didn't use ===, because that would be false
i have no idea how any scripting works
Someone tell Vedal there is a problem with NeuroARG
Why did you reply to me specifically for this?
seems like it's going the way it's supposed to really
We can have a doc for a list of ideas. No complex explanations or theories, just bullet points with ideas and potential clues. (Or do we already have that?)
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Level up clue
omg vedal is online, its a clue
Sry
this discussion is full of more jokes than actual theories and arg solving.
Coping
Schizo
real
I like the idea, but I'm not sure of how to do it without it becoming chaos. If you got ideas you should totally try it
also again, there may not be anymore clues yet, this may be all vedal has given or done so far
we'll probably wait months for more
so its like layer 1, rn, layer 2, in a few months and so on
we cant solve it because he hasnt made layer 2 yet
Coding is easy to understand:
- you have numbers
- you can do things with numbers (add, multiply, replace etc.),
- you can display numbers (as a numbers or letters or shapes, whatever you want).
Besides that there are also:
- loops (you can do the same thing with numbers multiple times)
- and conditional statements (they let you make things with numbers only if something something, for example if number is lower than 5 increase it).
That's all.. there is nothing more to it.
Everything else is just about:
- algorithms (making specific things in specific order with numbers to get another usefull numbers),
- learning programming languages (they are tools that allow the first 3 points to be realized, something like pencil for artist),
- and imagination+logic+experience (those allow you to "draw" with the "pencil").
its probably easy for you cuz you've probably done it alot before-
If... Else
If... Else
If... Else
If... Else
Bam! Yandere simulator
Best time to start is always now
It's exactly as easy as drawing.. everyone can draw if they know how to use pencil.. but to draw nice things you need experience and training.
true
you're gonna feel a little silly at first, but you'll get better if you keep working at it
then the next level you learn Object Oriented programming and then you learn threads and async,
plus im 16 so i got my whole life ahead of me to learn stuff
well, let's not get into a debate over whether OOP is productive lel
i guess
That's when (age 16) i started programming. Back then it was flash actionscript. It was terrible, but it was a start
at least i dont need to know how to code to solve arg
but i need to know how to decode more shiz
so i'll do that eventually
ah yea high school back then that was CASIO which is pretty similar to lua
I wish lol
oh ok
plus people tell me i probably wont be able to do stuff like that due to my mental issues...
and stuff..
;-;
lol. i have clothes older than that
lol..
Yeah, as a programmer, professional coding is not for everyone, but if you wanna learn I suggest starting with small tasks (like 'Hello World', or a basic calculator that can add or subtract two numbers), then move on to the more complex stuff when you feel like you can handle that. There are also websites that give you free coding exercises and stuff. Then again, it's not for everyone, so even if you fail, you can find something else to learn
yea i dont really think coding is for me, but i do want to make a game myself, so in the future i'll have to hire people to code
i can make music on fl studio kinda
only beginner though
i finished coding my calculator 
puts eval ARGV.join ' '
it's possible to make a game with no code
iirc game maker studio has a no code option
hmmm interesting
it's basically creating sprites then adding proprieties to them like this one has gravity and this one as health and if this one touch this one you remove health
but if i made a no code game it would be kinda lazy ;-;
but thats for me to worry about in the future
There is another app for making games without programming, it's called Construct. But those still require a little bit of learning to use
i mean you still work hard on making the graphics the layouts the story etc... also thinking of each interaction
true
I mean it worked for undertale
at least i can make semi ok music though
you should check out later some youtube video on game creation, how to think of a good game loop, user experience etc...
all the game planning aspect that doesn't involve coding or making graphics
toby fox used no code option?
Well, if it's just a personal hobby, and not a serious project, nothing wrong with that
Wikipedia:
just cuz he used gamemaker studio doesnt mean he used the no code option though
so yea
I just wanna focus on solving the arg
even in game maker studio you can still edit the code yes
offtop + rules
No lol
XD
that screenshare is really interesting
lol
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what are you solving
These puzzles in the songs are all just an elaborately disguised brain parasite i swear.
I’ve had nothing but like 6 different versions of the same song stuck going through my head the past few days
true
It’s genuinely good. But holy
OMG THE ARG IS A PARASITE SENT TO INFECT UR MIND
Half expect to start seeing ghosts any day now
say hi to the ghosts for me
Yup

actually you'll probably wake up to multiple voidsamas standing around ur bed
then u blink and they're gone
Lmao
what
is this arg solved now
Good one
;-;
what code do i need to know
python again?
language is just a tool
java

might as well go RUST
I know a bit of code. But not well enough to contribute to anything that people aren’t already doing
voidsama will haunt ur dreams tonight
Dart is nice
im still going to try to help with the arg even if i cant do aes stuff
I've learned java in my comp sci class and somehow got a 5 on the AP exam
It's only a little funky
is rust a good starting language ?
you always can become an engineer
I really don't like Java.. It's corporational boilerplate generator
lol
i'm larning Rust rn but i mean as a first lanuage i don't think it's easy to understand
engijneer

link preview is fixed
how's the arg going guys?
But after learning it it's much harder to switch to different language (especially low level one).
I think if you are serious about learning programming and you think about it as a future career (not just a hobby) you should start from low level language like C for example.
n%~ solved , 110% 
python is pythonic...
we are going bad
If you know low level language you can switch to different one very easy.. but switching from high level to low level can be extremaly hard
It's easy until you start delving deeper into it
you dont need to know low level to have a programming career 
language depends on your needs and for example if you want frontend it would be strange to go to learn low level lang for that tho it can deliver you better understanding how it works underhood
QA always an option
Programming is both the most rewarding and infuriating thing I've spent a bit of time learning. You can spend hours or days trying to get your code to work. But damn does it feel good when you finally do.
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lmao you star my level up and I will eat your eyelids
Done 
If anyone of you wants to lean programming with a more hardware sides aspect I recommend those cheap microcontroller (arduino or esp) starter kits. You can quickly get something to happen in the real world and if you have an idea for a project it's really fun to try get something to work. And there are a ton of tutorials and sensors available
for example if you want frontend it would be strange to go to learn low level lang for that tho
It wouldn't be strange at all.. low level gives you knowledge how everything works inside.. this is very useful for optimizations.. even on high level.
Are you trying to confuse Vedal again ?
i will do something productive to help with solving this arg
lol
eventually
i keep saying it
constantly
please help me im dying

Big problem with learning programming (and anything complex really) is that people tend to give up early because learning the fundamentals can take months and in rare cases years to learn. The fun aspect tends to not be enough to get past that sadly.
Plus most people don't want to program a calculator I'd imagine lol
exactly
it takes too long
For me it was seeing people build something and then wanting to build and modify it myself, that was the best way for me to learn
memory leaks are fun 
i wish i was actually able to help in some actually productive way
Looks fun doesn't it
no
no it doesnt

Btw did anyone mention Scratch yet? I mean, it was literally designed to teach kids to code. But yeah, I never worked with Scratch myself, so other than that, Python would be a great start. Yes, it's different from other languages, but by learning the basics of it, you'll also learn the basics of programming in general (if/else, for/while loops, functions, variables, etc), which definitely would help you learn other languages
i have one for java
Don't try to learn using a textbook unless you are a college student
You will almost certainly burn out
in frontend there's not much how knowing cpp can help you(you can provide me example how if you want) - mostly low level and high level languages have very different concepts. you just doesnt have so much control for optimizing low level things. they need different mindsets and I would say that it's not only hard to go from high level to low level but also from low to high. in any case I'm not saying that it's not useful at all but there's really no need at beginning
I have a couple of programming books, but never used them. I have one for php, HTML, MySQL and SCL
btw why we are discussing programming at the arg topic

Good question
System.out.println("It's too long");

we need to solve arg
I can hear the mods 
Get back on topic quick
Ok I've just heard about this ARG, how far do we think we've gotten?
Nah, mods are sleeping and getting into programming is kinda related
My inner moderator is tingling
ARG => cyphers => coding => aaaaand.. now we are talking about programming languages
lol
coding sucks
Don't make me use the gif I use on people in another server I mod for.
i tried it once
i could not
right
now we transforming people into programmers to solve arg easier
Really depends on what your goals are tbh
for now i just wanna be able to be helpful is solvin dis arg
See you in 2025 
It can be hard to send gif without perms 
Jokes aside.. i also feel like we should stop this topic and focus and start focusing on ARG
that's the problem - there's no any new leads so people get distracted on offtop
ok so like from the scale of "Just translate back from Morse" to Cicada3301, how complicated has this been so far?
Ech0 is trying something in the other thread
Only way I can really see it is by just trying to look for patterns, and hope you find something before someone else does lol
"We are probably on the wrong track but we don't have any better ideas"
joke a side scratch is great
Just try stupid shit and if it's the right length for a decryption key try it out, that's what I have been doing
oki doki
lol
oof.. that sucks
I was looking for clues myself this morning before I really knew much about the arg and found out everyone had already found what I had found 
lol
yea
Sounds like my life 
wish we can transmit info telepathically
my life is meaningless ngl
Same

i wish we were actually capable of finding something new
Same lol
For detailed info check docs but in short it feels like AES soup seasoned with base64 in spicy hex sauce
can someone summarize what we went through so far?

is elmo ok?
r.i.p
Btw, I swear neuro is smarter now
Might make things a little more interesting for this.
ye
Ok this arg is larger and also smaller than I expected
lol
man if he used an ascii code to an enigma code, would that have been even more tedious?
We don't even really understand the meaning (if there is any) to the things that has been solved
it's probably gonna end up as some lore or prize or something
maybe
ANXIETY
A supernatural force that stops us from being human
the award of solving the arg is neurosamas source code /j
Like what does it mean?
falling falling...
stuck between human and artificial....
how long will I keep falling for?
If you are really serious about this I will make you short TL;DR
- we solved one thing.. there was a single frame in the video with hardly readable malbolge code.. we compiled it and got nice undestandable text
- there are two core things that need to be solved and they probably contain most important/useful informations related to this ARG
- first is "Numbers" video, there is even separated chat for that https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1112401279680008242 look into docs for more info about them
- second is (probably) encrypted phone number which could be used as a decription key or something.. we are ~90% sure it's phone number.. you will find more info in the doc named "Study 10:21 [OPEN] (JS program)"
This also
hopefully it doesn't end up like inscryption where it just ends in a character breaking into the internet and that's it
We basically discarded the solved parts and ignored them because they don't seem to lead to the next step. Which kinda frustrate me
falling falling...
stuck between human and artificial....
how long will I keep falling for?
is that a reference?
This is the malbolge message
What do you mean by that?
hm
If someone wants to think about a deeper meaning for it, they are welcome
larger than just simple code for lore, smaller than some lost game arg
Maybe it means like shes stuck being almost human while also still being an ai
like shes becoming human almost idk
For me it's really good ARG.. it's done right and all things are in one place so it's easy to work on it
There was a debut stream at Saturday with new v2 Neuro's model. About 5 min after stream started someone found QR code on the waiting screen. That's how it all started.
no, I meant like is it localized in a single stream, multiple, across different channels, or what?
hm
Have you seen the secret youtube channel?
have seen but not watched
QR code is always the same and it's visible at the waiting screen always at the beginning of stream. It leads to YT account with two videos.. there is nothing more.. that's why it's nice to work on it (all is in one place).
Perhaps....we simply do not have all the pieces yet.
I see
you should watch study and numbers
even though its an arg
the songs are straight up bangers
I'm interested to see the Evil Neuro stream later this week, that might contain some new stuff.
definitely
We had some interesting moments on the streams like random glitches in the Neuro's eyes or Vedal played music on stream from this ARG channel.. but that's it.
were there any that happened before v2 debut?
nope
it seemed to all start after v2 debutted
Oddly though is that the videos are a month old
i believe the videos on the _neurosama channel were unlisted until the debut
how certain are we?
And who knows how long they took to make.
He's had this planned for a while I know that for sure.
Maybe those times Vedal went off to do meetings during dev streams weren't just stuff relating to merch and whatnot
did he have any websites for this arg?

Deals with the devil
We are actually very organized.. i mean.. docs are very organized.. that's kinda crazy when you think everyone can modify them
im surprised no one vandalized them
oh god we have to buy merch now 
This community is very well run by some miracle.
Btw any idea who made the artwork for Study? Is Vedal an artist or did he hire someone for it?
My question too.
it may be ai generated
It's made with AI
but what if it trained on a specific artist?
Oh, right, forgot about AI art lol
wait hold on that's probably the wrong direction
Careful, that's a touchy subject
yea
Whenever this all gets solved, who knows, maybe we'll see all the behind the scenes stuff
wait so what did we not solve yet?
Yeah, the art's origin isn't relevant here
Although I do suspect Anny might be secretly involved (and apparently someone already had that idea before)
It doesn't matter.. this all happened because people wanted Neuro lore on the occasion of the v2 debut. And we "got" lore xD
It would be weird if we would need informations from/about outsiders to solve it.. it's all specifically about Neuro and Neuro only.
Description on numbers video and SMS seem to have the biggest value at the moment
She literally needed to be explained what an ARG is and she initially thought it was a video game
I doubt it
hmmm..
anny was looking at arg stuff for too long on stream to not leak something if she knew
Don't bring Anny into this.. it's our thing and she doesn't know anything.. and even if she does she's not a character in this ARG

lol
so aside from Vedal, is anyone else involved with the creation of this arg?
Alex SCHIZO
We only know vedal is involved
Probably Alex.. but he told us he's also not an important character here.. we shouldn't ask him about anything
Since we can't progress we can discuss the deeper meaning (probably lorewise) of what we know.
We found the text:
"ANXIETY
A supernatural force that stops us from being human "
Any deeper meaning?
we only know vedal and NEURO are involved
The extends
could i just be schizo? thumbnail of numbers vid has momose blindfolded, does this signify something? vid title being numbers, so blind to numbers? remove the numbers? aaaaaaaaaa
study girl doesn't want to be human
I see study girl and I think of the lofi girl
actually
who is the study girl
study girl is lofi girl ai arg
Neuro
has anyone tried making an image from the codes yet?
I remember cicada3301 stuff and they had one of the puzzles being an image that can be translated into code that leads to everything else
I did a small attempt of turning the description of Numbers into binary and turning that into an image
You can probably look at the doc to see what's been done
Not sure.. we were focused more on the numbers itself and cypher stuff
is it possible to reverse that to create an image?
But I couldn't see anything
and I'm theorizing that they are holding onto anxiety to avoid being human because anxiety is a supernatural force that stops us from being human
im pretty sure the study girl may be a prototype version of neurosama
maybe this is an undertale kind of thing where "anxiety" doesn't mean what it typically means at all, like "determination" and "love"
Maybe they are an AI wanting to be human, but anxiety is preventing them from being so
what if there's another channel out there that's just the arg parody of the lofi girl
but one of the songs' titles is "I don't want to be human"
Also the 11:58 weirds me out because the image disappear and the word "fine" repeats but there isn't anything hidden in the frame.
Lmao I literally forgot
bruh

For the best experience, listen with headphones, while studying in a quiet room.
0:00 - I don't want to be an engineer
4:18 - Fallen down
7:43 - I think I saw a ghost
8:39 - ???
9:15 - I don't want to be human
13:27 - uʍop uǝllɐɟ
13:58 - I'm not like the other girls
17:31 - I don't want to be an engineer
21:48 - Fallen down
25:14 - I t...
is this silly
Time stemped
the Numbers girl is clearly neuro
stemped on mwe pwease
Naaah.. I think Vedal probably just isn't into AI generated art that much and he just didn't have proper knowledge to generate character more similar to Neuro.

probably
so is that saying they are the same or different characters
We'll probably get answer for that only after solving ARG
nvm that's the purpose of the STUDY vid

Wait, has anyone tried looking through the amongus source code?
That's great idea! Amogus code is public
am I the only one who found the snare drum sound really odd?
Yeah the neuro mod I mean
We should check all the commits that are younger than 1 month old
i will look through it
@daring acorn has leveled up! (11 ➜ 12)
noice
Among us canon
hold on so what did we found for the "I don't want to be an engineer" thing?
QR code on debut
no you shouldnt lol
there is nothing in the neuro amongus repository
How do you know that?
i mean like are there any specific hidden codes in the music itself, not the audio spectrogram but the music piece
most
"most"?
the probability that I didn't read a commit and it was part of the ARG is very low
lol
you guys are more likely to find the upload integrity key 

All it takes is a simple git commit --amend --no-edit and your information about commits can become obsolete.
I think someone tried to do something with notes in Numbers, but I am pretty sure that did not lead anywhere
There's also this line:
"falling falling...
stuck between human and artificial....
how long will I keep falling for?"
There's also the anxiety line, that also references not being human, so there's clearly a theme here. Which means that the Study girl is either Neuro or a separate character with a "human/machine" identity crisis. But most likely Neuro
doesn't work once pushed to github
you need to force push to ammend a commit pushed to github
git push -f
and that alerts everyone
hmmm
or perhaps the moment inbetween being a human and becoming an ai
or the other way around
Study girl really went Undertale intro on us
how nostalgic
leaves an alert on the commit btw
Guys, it might be a schizo, but. Has anyone tried to work with time tags as individual numbers?
"0:00
4:18
7:43
8:39
9:15
13:27
13:58
17:31
21:48
25:14
26:09
26:27
30:39
31:10"
I dunno
why not
how's the music made anyways
Yeah, plus she mentioned on stream she used to be human, but that's just Neuro being Neuro. Pretty sure ARG-Neuro is separate from the "real" Neuro, aside from references (like the QR code or the void-eyes thingy)
what about ai infused with human brain or something
I know I know..
I believe you that there might be 0 clues about ARG.. and now it became not so important as we thought it would be.
That being said I think it's still worth to check.. there is a lot of people talking they want to help but don't know how.. this would be a good task for them ^^
fair
man "I don't want to be human" is so unnerving
but yea all I can tell from that is, Study girl is probably once a human but somehow becomes something other than human
that would make the "I don't want to be an engineer" more like a hatred of the idea of having to be an engineer
could convert to seconds or just remove the colon
but what would we even do with those numbers?
nvm upside down fallen down is even worse
Oh right!
Last thing I forgot to tell you..
||Welcome to hell!
||
Had anyone tried writing a program that tries every decryption method with every possible interpretation of Numbers on the description's code? Not just bruteforcing, mind you, but bruteforcing with clues only
yayyy free trip to eternal suffering 😊
Welcome to SCHIZO club 
nothing yet. I mean why dont just keep it in mind just in case.
close to nothing
Garnet might've found something tho idk
add it to the the numbers thread library doc
? show plz
should we add some security precautions for the doc? people can literally come in and delete everything
im currently dying inside
as in the numbers you've sent
I have this idea, but no noone work with it
Who is Garnet?
Where is Garnet?
And most importantly..
How is Garnet?
SweetGarnet
Btw if no one did that before I might cook a python script for that
we'll let you cook
lots of people making back-ups
@rough pebble Hello Garnet! 
if it ever goes wrong we can start limiting access then, if necessary
@rough pebble has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)
for now its better if its easier to add input
I legit almost add in a letter by accident lmao
Anyways, gn to you all
mobile docs sucks
theres always the undo button if you mess up
yea
just got back from work, any new development?
new ideas, nothing new solved
is there a way to automatically make the link put you into viewing instead of editing?
I called that development cause we took away more possibility
like you can still change it, but you're in viewing right away from the start
On the google docs there is this new nice "infinitely wide paper" mode.. this makes things much easier than before (when it comes to posting assets)
It's already enabled in the "[Main] > Numbers" doc for example you can see workplace on the paper is much wider.
w i d e
But it's only for images and such unfortunately : /
Text still has limited available width on the paper.
How is the progress?
Where is the progress?
New people joined and we introduced them into this hell ARG.. if that's can be called progress then sure.. there is 😂
im back again
So still hard stuck for 3 days
Naah.. today we learnt that spectrogram doesn't contain any useful informations at all.. and we were just analizying shapes that were literally notes 😂
is there a way to force people to check pins if they join threads
Oh, well maybe tomorrow there is something waiting
might be her tweets around april can be useful 
I find it very weird that vedal takes two days off and they are no consequent
it would probably help if docs weren't at the bottom of pins but what do i know
Or maybe im just stopid
Read vedal read
One day off was just for break.. the second one was probably to have time for modifications inside Neuro AI. I mean.. he has collab with Shylily soon.. if "...problem with AI" will happen there this will be a big problem.
The ARG is already finish
So there is no point tracking the days hes taking off
unless
MANs idea sounds very interesting #1112401279680008242 message
Hmm
Yeah, im right, im stopid
He might be working on new hints
still doesn't stop us from decoding the two videos
it would feel more accomplishing to find the answer without hints
Of course
Also if he is giving hints
It is already given
But then again what is the purpose of this arg the most schizo reward i can think of is new ai vt
I don't think so.. the only reason he could want to give us hints is that people can become little annoying with donates and such related to ARG.
Backlore of Neuro Sama
That's probably it
And nothing more lmao
puzzles are fun
Yep thats probably it
Also true
Ticket for Vedal's karaoke concert
But he said he didnt wanted like some deeplore to neuro
well
We looking at it rn
if ARG isnt deep lore idk what is
True
He also said he will think about something if people really want it.. and something indeed we got xD
Maybe it's Vedal onlyfans reveal?
It was put to a poll on a dev stream and he basically said that he feels like Neuro is her own lore in the sense that she is an actual AI
im now motivated 
wrong reply
it was for the vedal karaoke
What do you want to watch? SHELL??
Another idea is that whatever we decoded, we have to take it to Neuro Sama herself
There is a probability that we get a unique reaction like the word Engineer
That turtle.....
Although vedal say that she wont say any clues
True, but didn't he say she won't give us any more hints?
@azure jasper has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)
There is a difference between Hints and Answer
ddo we even know if that prompt were chat rompt or inputted prompt?
I think it's not worth to ask her about it..
Vedal said we should stop asking Neuro about ARG cause she doesn't tell us anything..
lol this stream took place 3 days before the ARG vids were posted
I personally dont know
Worse come to worse we spend points to highlight message
You see, you are thinking we should stop asking Neuro Sama for Hints because Vedal said so
Im thinking we take THE answer to her when decoded
Feel free to spend it.. I need them for VIP 😂
just cheer500 
Well it is kinda funny how chat goes schizo mode when someone ask something arg related and other people that dont know or are new is like ????
hmmm
Can't say not.. it really is funny.. but not if every second donate is related to ARG
People need to calm down a little bit
You think I won't?
I had a shitposting copy pasta ready for when I get banned for pinging Vedal when Static Sama showed up
he did invite people to do this kind of by playing Study on stream tbf
I think when the numbers thing is solved and we have a definite answer then it could be asked
true
that's what im saying
but yea I agree, dont pester arg stuff every donation lmao
He did.. he's such a troll.. it made me chuckle
He knows that people are desperated probably is watching us right now and having a laugh he just loves this shit
yeah
Maybe that stream had more rigged prompts. Number video had lyric that says start with number 2. And i rember she read a question about why bot are bad with the number 2 in that stream

The void-eyes on debut did make it look like asking Neuro something arg-related would make her give us clues, but that was the only time Neuro referenced the arg. So yeah, better spend money on asking her funny questions instead lol
ask funny arg related questions 
Vedal.. if you are reading it.. good luck with Shylily collab!
You got this man! 
it wasn't on debut nerdge
Oh lol ok
I need to go.. gn all
gl with cracking the cryptic arg!
omg writing on the box
clue??
Me when lomi
Meow?
I revive this discussion with engineer.
holy
built a dispenser
i'm already tracer
I feel like engineer is becoming the amogus of this server.

Engineer = amongus
I DONT WANT TO BE SUS
I think i saw a sus
I don't want to be an imposter
Amongus gaming
420
IT'S OVERDUE ALL THE STRESS
9
Neuro ARG fans when new members ask if there's any progress

True
Embed fail 
Embed fail
so sasd
I am the new memebr
not again
what the heck
he doesnt know
Fail

bro I literally use the gif from discord search thing

Literally doesn't know


Yes I am 

ElNoSabe
tell me pls
New members need permissions
why me
Is there any progress?
Schizo's in no embed
why us
why they
You know, since we are at the throw stuff at the wall stage of things and schizo posting, under the idea that Vedal wasn't joking about "I don't want to be human" and "I don't want to be an engineer" being basically the same. I wonder if anyone has overlayed the audio / images of the repeated named sections atop each other.
you haven't talked enough #1095956760763846701
ohh
jkjk
You need to participate more in chat, thats all
Now stop that shit
Sorry, just wanted to correct this, Alex told me he was not involved with the creation of the ARG nor is he a character.
- James

Imagine people reading rules and faq
No wonder embed fail response 
could no be me
Alex is a different Schizo than the numbers
well he also said hes only here for the moral and encouragment support, so he won't be that much use in solving the ARG anyway
i think we need more moral support
First time?
Alex should hack vedal and check what the real lyrics are
That's only because he's too stupid to help.
- James
Alex needs to sing Numbers for us
James
There are a lot of people in here thats more stupid than him
And thats not even a joke
yeah
i call dibs
Like me 
Im mostly talking about people who basically use this is as #general-network
who also don't really contribute anything other than making more messages in the thread
couldn't be me
James,
Thank you for your input. I would like to inquire about the lyrics of the video "numbers" - do you happen to know what the official lyrics are?
Reguards,
- Catt0s
live cat reaction, MSG staff
Hello Catt0s,
Have you tried listening to the song and writing down the lyrics yourself?
- James
I still thinks the second line is "add another 9 yeah"
Hello James,
Thank you for the fast response! To answer your question, I have, however I remain doubtful about the accuracy of my results, and would like it to be verified, if possible.
Thank you!
- Catt0s
pretty certain that the second line is "add another line yeah"
its clear the singer sang nine and line differently
alright then
Maybe its just cause im not a native English speaker
then I will completely erase that possibility
its alright, the lyrics are a bit iffy sometimes so its good to throw around ideas to widdle it down
I'm guessing i missed nothing
The fibonacci sequence is currently what im trying to understand
simply start with number 2
yea i know
Why have we gone from arg to mathematics?
ARG is mathematics
pretty much ^
because the numbers video shows the sequence
pain
and yea, ARG is pretty much math
NOOO NOT MATH
get the flammenwerfer
being good at math and knowing what profession to take makes you good money tho ngl 
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