#Neuro ARG
fresh shore
cosmic grail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUG76IDfcy0 we need this
fast path
so what number are we looking for from the lyrics
like what properties does it need to have
serene fractal
Add numbers to 4
fast path
16 length?
serene fractal
Not 2 4
serene fractal
Add numbers to 4
It makes more sense
fresh shore
still debatable
cosmic grail
i think the best thing right now is to save our non-existent sanity and wait until tomorrows stream
fast path
like what properties does it need to have
^ anyone know this
cause like i can keep going over the lyrics getting bunch of numbers, but idk how im supposed to tell if its possibly a correct one
daring acorn
hmm
cosmic grail
^ anyone know this
XXXX XXXXX i think
daring acorn
idk
fast path
oh so phone number route?
cosmic grail
because Uk phone number
cosmic grail
i know its +44
fiery spade
if we're looking for an AES encryption key they need to be 128, 192, or 256 bits in length
cosmic grail
i dont think we havve to look at +44 part
fast path
if we're looking for an AES encryption key they need to be 128, 192, or 256 bits...
so 16, 24 or 32 characters?
timid swift
have we been raided by people who actaully know what they're doing yet?
golden ravine
i wish
timid swift
also goodmorning
fiery spade
so 16, 24 or 32 characters?
if we're using UTF-8 characters (almost everything uses UTF-8) then decoding them to binary then yeah
cosmic grail
also goodmorning
morning
tawny pasture
I mean, phone numbers are 11 characters long, minus the +44
fast path
are telephone books still a thing
timid swift
that entirely depends on the country. The span is 6 to 15 characters if i remember correctly
fast path
cant we search for numbers that start with 17 or something
fast path
and possibly end on 2 4, but maybe not
tawny pasture
So if it’s a British phone number, it should be XXXXXXXXXXX or +44XXXXXXXXXXX
fast path
any guesses
steady lake
Hello, I'm new here. What progress was made?
cosmic grail
any guesses
Vedal, Bumingham
tawny pasture
Birmingham?
fast path
no Vedal in Burmingham
fiery spade
Hello, I'm new here. What progress was made?
fast path
"You can also enter the first part of a Postcode in the City field, eg. PO37"
tawny pasture
His accent gives that away
golden ravine
surely calling vedal is the goal
fast path
yes
cosmic grail
can we just ask Alex
obtuse basalt
Let's visit vedal and ask him what the answer is 
tawny pasture
This can’t go wrong
Okay, one thing
Vedal’s accent is probably south England
Doesn’t mean that’s where he is, but his accent is more south than it is north
supple perch
just visit every home in england, you will eventually find him
timid swift
I'm not sure trying to doxx vedal is going to be a required factor in solving the arg lel
obtuse basalt
no way we can be this stuck
supple perch
im beginning to think that this arg was actually ment to program my brain to be addicted to the two songs
obtuse basalt
timid swift
So if it’s a British phone number, it should be XXXXXXXXXXX or +44XXXXXXXXXXX
For what it's worth, the docs for that code thing says that it's specifically supposed to be +format https://github.com/messagemedia/messages-nodejs-sdk
tawny pasture
Ah, that does help
fresh shore
well brutforce phone number starting with + should be faster then 16 chars description code
river mantle
timid swift
We still aren't sure if it's a hash tho
that my hand fits in a shoe doesn't make it a foot
obtuse basalt
unless it's 12 inches
fast lichen
You know, this is out of topic, but this ARG will inevitably attract outside attention
Maybe with other vtubers maybe with the ARG community
Will Vedal accept it if it happens?
timid swift
Will Vedal accept free publicity? Let's see..
fast lichen
I mean what we can do for now is try not to mention it out too much
But i think more content creators will inevitably start reacting to it
fast lichen
Will Vedal accept free publicity? Let's see..
It’s def free publicity but also more scrutiny
I mean all the viewers
Anny has already seen it
But what if other creators like the prev collab partners stream their reactions to it (Filian, Camilia, Giri etc.)
crimson tendonBOT
@fast lichen has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)
timid swift
it's going to attact people who actually know how to solve ARGs, not just a bunch of people who know a little bit of tech here or there lel
fast lichen
Fair
timid swift
fast path
the only possible issue that could come with getting more people is attracting actually bad trolls
like if someone just posts red herrings that's fine, but if they were to mess with the docs it would ruin it
fast lichen
Should start creating backups i suppose
timid swift
I already am doing that, but it wouldn't be terrible if others did too
timid swift
cosmic grail
crimson tendonBOT
@cosmic grail has leveled up! (6 ➜ 7)
supple perch
fast lichen
golden ravine
not because we might need it but because i love collecting data 
obtuse basalt
i'll start deleting then /s
ember tapir
Hello guys where are we at?
fast path
same place
obtuse basalt
become a slave to all these numbers
supple perch
Hello guys where are we at?
pretty much the same place as 11 hours agi
fast path
less static neuro schizo though i think
livid violet
why were we trying to call vedal lmao
ember tapir
Wait we are?
obtuse basalt
what are we going to do with the phone number? text 'save me...' and pray?
golden ravine
yes
fast path
we need to call him for the next clue totally
cosmic grail
wait ill try to call static again
timid swift
what are we going to do with the phone number? text 'save me...' and pray?
Pretty much!
obtuse basalt
fair enough
livid violet
i doubt the arg really wants us to text someone, the chances of bothering random ppl is too high
i doubt vedal wants that
obtuse basalt
no idea how expansive this arg is
timid swift
i doubt the arg really wants us to text someone, the chances of bothering random...
yyeah, let's not try to bruteforce this step lel
cosmic grail
still hang up, nothing useful
obtuse basalt
Scrolled through some of Vedal's twitter follows (wanted to find some sort of _neurosama-like accounts) and there's a bunch of cybersecurity related stuff
timid swift
you mean they didn't answer, right?
timid swift
go sleep DO IT NOW!!
golden ravine
i want to sleep
cosmic grail
its only 10pm
timid swift
"only"
cosmic grail
yes
ember tapir
Wait we have a number now?
timid swift
no, but the JS code strongly suggests that the base64 in it represents a phone number
cosmic grail
we know that we probalably should get it
ember tapir
So we're sure that there's a number
cosmic grail
maybe
timid swift
well, we're pretty sure. Not sure-sure
fast path
a phone number is just another possible outcome to consider from the numbers lyrics
ember tapir
Time to watch that vid again
timid swift
Time to lose all active braincells again here we go
fresh shore
numbers pasta
golden ravine
i will solve it in my sleep
obtuse basalt
not me encoding random words from the songs into base64 and attempting to use those as an AES key for the description of Numbers
i'm not big brained enough to math out stuff or code
dire orchid
rare discord voice msg
fast path
didnt know that was possible
hardy burrow
possibly clue hidden in there .....
dire orchid
real
obtuse basalt
quick get the spectrogram
cosmic grail
quick get a doctor
obtuse basalt
I think they saw a ghost
cosmic grail
a detective
obtuse basalt
It was Mr. Green with the candlestick in the ballroom
distant girder
the fact that i havent slept and stared at lyrics is slowly catching up to me....
distant girder
cant, i have to work in about a hour 
obtuse basalt
i mean
you can still sleep
just with a high chance of consequences
dire echo
Whats the progress on the arg
obtuse basalt
Anyhow I looked at DDLC as some sort of guide and like
there's a nonzero chance that the description of Numbers is base64 ran under a viginere cipher (like "have a nice weekend!.txt" in DDLC, base64 encoded with viginere with "libitina" as a keyword), but i kinda sort really hope that's not the case
distant girder
Whats the progress on the arg
0
dire orchid
CLUE
distant girder
well 0 progress that really matterd so far
dire echo
Whats the last clue yall found
plucky maple
obtuse basalt
tbh the only major thing I feel we've cracked was the malboge program
the rest is going through the process of elimination/brute force/throw things at the wall and see if anything can stick
rotund coyote
There are many messages, can you give me a summary of the progress?
fast path
summary is in the docs
dire echo
I mean it can always be a part of a link just saying
Not always encoded text
Youtube link
Etc
rotund coyote
summary is in the docs
Sorry for the silly question, where are the documents?
fast path
google drive in pinned message, ^ that
obtuse basalt
I mean it can always be a part of a link just saying
Not always encoded text
i'd be impressed if the description of numbers linked anywhere
rotund coyote
Thanks :3
obtuse basalt
speaking of which- there's a // in there and i have no clue how normal that is
distant girder
for links not normal, idk for base64 or other stuff
timid swift
fairly unlikely in random data to have // but it's absolutely a valid base64 arrangement
dire echo
Also ABCDEFG maybe implies septadecimal/base 17
timid swift
do it, try not to dream of numbers, numbers
obtuse basalt
Another technique that could be noted (but may not lead anywhere here) is turning something into binary and using that to make a black-and-white binary image for a qr code or something
That's just a thought though
cosmic grail
do it, try not to dream of numbers, numbers
NUMBER MASON WHAT DO THEY MEAN
obtuse basalt
Gn
cosmic grail
also please ping me if there are clues during tomorrows streams thanks
obtuse basalt
It's overdue it's overdue
I can't wait to see the chat freak out when she sings Numbers
timid swift
i wish
graceful basin
I had a strong feeling that something hidden in the paper
something like binary variegation
timid swift
paper?
fast path
her books?
timid swift
It's a possibility like everything else
fast path
oh the static overlay
distant girder
we are clearly missing something thats for sure... well i'm off to work
fast path
yeah
timid swift
yeah... they had a fun time transcribing the 0 and O
plucky bronze
how did they get 4k quality in google docs
timid swift
But thankfully the program only runs with the correct version, with progressive confirmation of where it breaks
obtuse basalt
If you squint it's actually a Rick roll
timid swift
if i squint i see a face so that's confirmation there's nothing there lel
plucky bronze
rickroll ascii in base64 at the end
timid swift
Honestly, i could respect that.
cosmic grail
rickroll ascii in base64 at the end
Huh?
timid swift
weren't you going to bed? :p
fast path
nope
hollow garnet
you guys solved it right
supple perch
unique mason
timid swift
ofc, the solution reveals that ||static sama is real||
unique mason
ofc, the solution reveals that ||static sama is real||
.
uncut cargo
unique mason
we need to make this more mainstream
well, reddit didnt work ;-;
timid swift
the "real" arg solvers probably see args like this form time to time and leave them alone because they'd absolutely own it.
we're just too dense
timid swift
really though, i think we need to learn a bit more of the arg meta
uncut cargo
Just like in league
crimson tendonBOT
You have unlocked new role
timid swift
You have unlocked new role
cosmic grail
Wtf I just saw a light flashing really fast like a lighting but there is no rain(rain clouds even) and there is no one outside
Is that a clue
uncut cargo
Pog embed perms
cosmic grail
weren't you going to bed? :p
I am in bed
timid swift
ah, so you're a programmer
river mantle
You have unlocked new schizo
fast path
lightning can hit even without clouds
timid swift
"achtwually this counts as in bed"
cosmic grail
ah, so you're a programmer
I do actually know python
timid swift
See? I knew it
cosmic grail
"achtwually this counts as in bed"
🤓👆
timid swift
i swear, BvmSc is gonna be etched in my brain right along side with XcQ. Like in the sense I couldn't recite it if you ask me but if you show it to me I'll know immediately
obtuse basalt
The code is to memorize all of the description
To ascend between human and artificial
cosmic grail
The code is to memorize all of the description
Is it going to be on a test
plucky bronze
the lore is vedal didn't want to be an engineer SCHIZO
timid swift
The code is to memorize all of the description
it's a brain computer interface purely in software form. Vedal did it, he actaully did it!
plucky bronze
the love for anime caused him to fall
fiery spade
Another technique that could be noted (but may not lead anywhere here) is turnin...
huh, now that I think about it no one has tried visualizing the data yet so that's a good idea
plucky bronze
after being ostracized from society he created neuro as his only companion
obtuse basalt
Is it going to be on a test
Gonna pass this test yeah
plucky bronze
if I disappear it means vedal ties up loose ends
river mantle
the crime of turing engineer girl into AI need to be exposed!!!
he can't get away with dis!!!
timid swift
Shit the test is real?? I haven't studied
uncut cargo
after being ostracized from society he created neuro as his only companion
That's canon as V1 confirmed that she was created because vedal couldn't get a real girlfriend
robust girder
Lmao
obtuse basalt
Strike the lightning back
timid swift
That's canon as V1 confirmed that she was created because vedal couldn't get a r...
Honestly, that's likely how some breakthrough will unfold in a near future
fresh shore
jack vedal's dead osananajimi 
obtuse basalt
AI only advances because it's too hard to get a real relationship
cosmic grail
Real
robust girder
after being ostracized from society he created neuro as his only companion
Man imagine creating an elaborated ARG just to get called by anny a nerd and by your fans a schizo lol
obtuse basalt
Nothing changes
timid swift
Random thought: maybe the malbolge program is a key for something. The output of the program may only be verification that we transcribed it correctly
fresh shore
like code itself?
timid swift
ye
obtuse basalt
It's a thought, but I'm thinking the output is supposed to be a hint for something that we just can't figure out
timid swift
i've read through "study" lyrics
I just listened to it obsessively over and over again lel
in fact i'm listening to it right now
obtuse basalt
I think I saw a gh
timid swift
It's a thought, but I'm thinking the output is supposed to be a hint for somethi...
ye, we gotta keep doors open and stuff. Thought I'd just throw it out there
obtuse basalt
Throw it and see if it sticks
fresh shore
sound sample door knocking hard breathing stuff moving heart beating
plucky bronze
I just listened to it obsessively over and over again lel
lyrics about someone who dropped out of college, blaming themself and getting rank in some game
fresh shore
I don't want to be a human next
supple perch
in fact i'm listening to it right now
same lel
obtuse basalt
I need to sleep now
I wish everyone the best of luck at cracking something
cosmic grail
I want to be an engineer
fresh shore
how she can stuck between human and artificial
obtuse basalt
I think I saw a gho-
i gotta stop making that joke
fresh shore
like fallen down is just about depression, right
cosmic grail
I think I saw an engineer
wooden bobcat
Supernatural force
timid swift
Did you guys find anything
Not our sanity
fast path
im gonna sleep
surely progress will be made in the next 10 hours
cosmic grail
im gonna sleep
surely progress will be made in the next 10 hours
Night
fresh shore
anxiety as a supernatural force stops her for being a human, or ghost as a supernatural force unhuman her
cosmic grail
wooden bobcat
Shizo
uncut cargo
Reject humanity
dire orchid
gn 
uncut cargo
Return to monki
ocean wyvern
gn
cosmic grail
uncut cargo
I wonder whether we are actually close to the end, waiting for the next clue, or we hit a dead end at barely the beginning
timid swift
we won't know until we know
It would make more sense if this was a smaller arg, but who knows if it's a fun little thing to add backstory, or meant to attract outsiders (advertizment done right) or meant to be a community focal point (probably not this. Vedal spent all his money on lambos)
fresh shore
key for phone number is donowalled and she just pissed off and start coding swarm to end all world
timid swift
that's gonna take a while
uncut cargo
It would make more sense if this was a smaller arg, but who knows if it's a fun ...
Yeah I also had a thought that this thing is made to spread
timid swift
if we completely give up i suppose we should try to spread the word instead.
but I don't feel like i've even begun thunking about it. I'm not ready to give up
ocean wyvern
Me neither
uncut cargo
if we completely give up i suppose we should try to spread the word instead.
Time to make a new religion.
plucky bronze
vedaL
timid swift
huh
ocean wyvern
i am trying to imagine his reaction towards our numerous failed attempts
timid swift
"wtf guys, it's so easy"
timid swift
seriously though, it is probably something not too difficult we just haven't noticed. Like a fairly niche but easy thing
ocean wyvern
very possible
timid swift
like the malbolge program is
distant girder
maybe we are missing something bc we are like "thats too easy" and don't even consider it?
timid swift
yes, i didn't even think to look around in esoteric programming languages
uncut cargo
At the beginning i thought that numbers may contain a yt link in the description if you follow the instructions
timid swift
the worst thing is i valguely knew about malbolge before this i just didn't connect the dots. I used to dig around in weird programming languages and stuff.
it could be many things
golden ravine
if i had the ability to think i would solve it
timid swift
the biggest problem with following the instructions in numbers' lyric is that we don't have a way to verifiy that it's correct even if we do follow it correctly
uncut cargo
The Fibonacci sequence is still a mystery
hollow garnet
if anyone comes up with any more 16 digit solutions I'm happy to test them as aes keys
hollow garnet
if anyone comes up with any more 16 digit solutions I'm happy to test them as ae...
or more accurately, ranges of values
daring acorn
This is the very first comment 
ocean wyvern
if anyone comes up with any more 16 digit solutions I'm happy to test them as ae...
soo... i know that the used static sound for ghost is something stock and may not be relevant but it contains exactly 16 ?numbers?
so maybe the key
am going :schitzo: again
timid swift
the thing that was a sample we also found in another song?
ocean wyvern
yep, i think
timid swift
I think it would be wild for the creator to find a sound sample and think "this sounds like a clue already, i'm just gonna use that"
timid swift
why use AI to do the job when the job is already done for you?
plucky bronze
just ask gpt4
timid swift
i swear, asking LLMs to do things that are above their level is the new parsing bytes as utf16 into assorted asian symbols
golden ravine
i lost count of how many llm screenshots with random answers have been posted here
hollow garnet
I also love how assertive the llms are
ocean wyvern
I am still skeptical about the drawings from the spectrogram of "numbers"
fiery spade
LLMs are decent if you have an idea and explain it to the LLM first, but if you ask it to do something technical that's not language processing (e.g: counting or math or writing code), you get rubbish answers
fresh shore
my favorite is qabcdefg answer
fresh shore
bc it was kinda making sense until it decide to yeet all completely in the last part
ocean wyvern
what do they mean
supple perch
what do they mean
The numbers mason
golden ravine
ocean wyvern
particularly the intro part, before neuro has her eyes covered
after that it is just a repeated garbly mess
question
what was the name of the guy that made the art? Sad something?
cursive valley
what was the name of the guy that made the art? Sad something?
sadeccs
ocean wyvern
sadeccs, noted
timid swift
I also love how assertive the llms are
A big part is that people like cutting off the part at the end where ChatGPT expresses doubt about the result
tawny pasture
can we go back
No
golden ravine
tawny pasture
timid swift
AI used to scare me. Then I realized how stupid people are. It'll be fine
pulsar kiln
timid swift
AI used to scare me. Then I realized how stupid people are. It'll be fine
How I cope at night
ocean wyvern
sadly sadeccs does not seem to resemble the "text so to speak" from the spectrogram
golden ravine
true technology has always been smarter than people
timid swift
I mean it will be. But will we be there for it?
pulsar kiln
ocean wyvern
10+9?
tawny pasture
109
ocean wyvern
good
timid swift
21
yes, but you can't ask a calculator to make a sandwich ||and get slapped instead||
ocean wyvern
yet
timid swift
THAT WOULDN'T BE A CALCULATOR
ocean wyvern
:)))
tawny pasture
I like how everything is being called AI now
TTS? No, voice AI. NPC? Nah, that's AI.
I mean, NPCs do have AI, but I feel like I see the AI part getting mentioned far more now
timid swift
the best thing about that is that it was technically AI before as well. But now it's ML stuff and THAT gets called AI
golden ravine
AI
hollow garnet
A big part is that people like cutting off the part at the end where ChatGPT exp...
I also love the ones where it invents a PNG header
golden ravine
why did we end up being stuck with calling everything AI
ocean wyvern
Hear me out, if we are made by humans, our brain is made by humans too
and what is made by humans is artificial
and our brain is more or less intelligent
therefore we are AI
tawny pasture
Most of it's not even AI
honest harness
Before it's Al for Algorithm
timid swift
Hear me out, if we are made by humans, our brain is made by humans too
and what ...
emphasis on less
honest harness
It just looks like AI but it's Al
dire orchid
so what constitutes as an AI
timid swift
It's a flowery term that you can't bound
tawny pasture
I mean, we can't really tell what constitutes sentience either, can we?
Or something like that
ocean wyvern
pretty much
timid swift
we'll probably find that sentience is a trick like how we used to think we had souls and stuff
it's just the emergence effect or something
timid swift
ye, i like magic
ocean wyvern
we'll probably find that sentience is a trick like how we used to think we had s...
oh boy i still remember the rant from one of my uni teachers about soul transference from mother to soon to be newborn
timid swift
lmao, i wish you had a recording
timid swift
like a deer in the headlights, eh?
ocean wyvern
basically
timid swift
lel
timid swift
classic.
ocean wyvern
am patiently waiting for muh perms
so i can share the damn symbols
without imgur or anything
HOHO, seems i am close
timid swift
You'll get there don't worry
timid swift
RIP
By the way, maybe we should start documenting what we have tried that did not work as well as what level of expertise it was done with. For instance I would be better at investingating code than disecting a video
ocean wyvern
true
some documenting is needed
i tried my best with audio
but all i have are speculations at best
timid swift
Exactly. I could only say that I did not find anything in audio. I could not say that there's nothing in audio
ocean wyvern
"study" does not have anything apparent in spectrograms besides a few weird occurences
crimson tendonBOT
You have unlocked new role
ocean wyvern
at last
but
this
is the beginning from "numbers"
reversed
right is start, and left would be where neuro starts to have eyes covered
after that it is repeated stuff
looks like japanese characters
but i may be wrong
digital radish
they are
digital radish
oh
timid swift
Is this in the docs?
golden ravine
all my code has failed
ocean wyvern
nope
crimson tendonBOT
@ocean wyvern has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)
native maple
so there is something we missed in numbers ?
how did you come up with this result ?
native maple
hmm we did a bunch of spectrogram but never 1sec
ocean wyvern
those were my settings
timid swift
Absolutely. It looks like a script've seen several time, but I'm bilingual latin-alphabet normie, i can't even recognize which set it's supposed to be
native maple
you could try google translate it takes images
ocean wyvern
it is too garbled for google, but try as well
hollow garnet
I assume this isn't obviously a bassline or anything
manic swift
I woke up
golden ravine
imagining text
manic swift
Decided to be schizo
golden ravine
good start
native maple
is there more 1 sec snippet that look like that ?
timid swift
maybe i'm just seing things tho. On closer inspection the symbols too similar to eachother
It still could be something else tho
pearl mesa
looks like a whole bunch of nothing to me
native maple
oooh it's all the video yea we never seen this in the all video spectogram
timid swift
Put it in docs
timid swift
The file with the lyrics has a lot of timestamped items.
native maple
somewhere in numbers yes
timid swift
We may have to split that in two, lyrics and timeline of observations
ocean wyvern
i will get to it in a minute
timid swift
"working"
golden ravine
ocean wyvern
man, i can work most of my life, this ARG is only momentary
pulsar kiln
w 
r k
golden ravine
will vedal pay us
timid swift
maybe in tutel noises
dire orchid
man, i can work most of my life, this ARG is only momentary
not if no one can solve it here
ocean wyvern
3 years
native maple
maybe extracting only the white would help
ocean wyvern
like the lyrics say
ocean wyvern
maybe extracting only the white would help
photoshop?
native maple
or gimp
timber ravine
progress ??!??!?!?!
ocean wyvern
i don't even know where to begin in this doc
timid swift
if in doubt, no progress
ocean wyvern
progress ??!??!?!?!
for now, only theoretically
native maple
i don't even know where to begin in this doc
you could put in in analysis bellow the red text
ocean wyvern
you could put in in analysis bellow the red text
ok
golden ravine
neuro should play an idle game
timid swift
I bet she'd be good at a clicker
timid swift
no upgrades, just keep clickin'
timber ravine
would be good as a background game in a chill stream
supple perch
btw random thought; in "study" in the first segment it have a bit of talking about numbers. can that bit be used to help us solve "numbers"?
timid swift
Has it been noted in the docs? If not, please write down your thoughts if you see something (:
daring acorn
where are we rn
lunar imp
I dont want to be a programmer, I tried so hard and got so far
fiery spade
let's convert the numbers description from base64 to binary and visualize it for no reason https://i.imgur.com/kxnSzTc.png https://i.imgur.com/3rPgFgK.png yay enjoy the static
timid swift
let's convert the numbers description from base64 to binary and visualize it for...
my schizo mind sees diagonal lines in this and wonder if other aspect ratios would show something
supple perch
Has it been noted in the docs? If not, please write down your thoughts if you se...
This is the lyrics from study im talking about
ABC finding all these numbers, numbers
Integrate differentiate
It’s getting old, yeah
543
Finding all these numbers, numbers
Calculate, no mistake
timid swift
Ye, if you think you have some analysis arguments it would be great to note them down in the study doc
supple perch
well atm its mostly just a random thought i had while working on another project
timid swift
Well it's up to you really (:
lunar imp
let's convert the numbers description from base64 to binary and visualize it for...
Now we need to write a script that would change dimensions and a starting point, and looks for irregularities in an image
hollow garnet
has anyone tried using all the words in block capitals to do anything
because I know there's the one in the bio, there's https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1qm6GSRlstTmjbyOFCuH1OhSmPK4pi4Aa/1OHfRdXRmFLsZqGW0UlzEyt9o9YucgMjP?usp=sharing&sort=13&direction=a
and idk I feel like they're related
timid swift
wrong link?
timid swift
classic mobile
Still not quite following the question. But I guess you could check the message in statics document on what people have tried
serene fractal
Turtl is smart. Turtl created many decoys.
timid swift
He really didn't have to, we're great at inventing and finding decoys
serene fractal
Mostly
hollow garnet
I love all the warnings on the rust crypto crates telling me not to use them lol
serene fractal
I asked a friend who is very good at math and is into cryptography to help us, but he looked at it and refused...
ocean wyvern
i actually managed to do something in photoshop, and it just crashed on me
timber ravine
adobe gaming
ocean wyvern
peak
timid swift
I asked a friend who is very good at math and is into cryptography to help us, b...
Lel. ARG is not for everyone
hollow garnet
would anyone be interested in a version of the brute force thing that also accepts an IV
serene fractal
would anyone be interested in a version of the brute force thing that also accep...
It sounds hopeless
Lets go
hollow garnet
I'll do it when I get back then
timid swift
#1112401279680008242 back in business lel
serene fractal
On the mountains again? x)
hollow garnet
on a beach today
timid swift
You'll never know where you'll find bred
hollow garnet
tired from yesterday
have a nice picture from last night
serene fractal
on a beach today
Varied
timid swift
tired from yesterday
have a nice picture from last night
Nice skybox
hollow garnet
I mean I'm just in agony from walking for like 3 days
this place from two days ago had a bunch of tourists
was pretty fun to jump between rocks in front of them lol
serene fractal
this place from two days ago had a bunch of tourists
It looks beautiful, I would fly there
That's it. We looked at the beautiful mountains. Time to do the ARG
solve*
hollow garnet
uncut cargo
Enough touching grass
ocean wyvern
is this even remotely better?
serene fractal
Yo
ocean wyvern
i can understand even less than before
serene fractal
Is that chineese?
hollow garnet
I'm gonna be honest that looks like piano to me
timid swift
inb4 asian discord members laughing at us so hard
serene fractal
I'm gonna be honest that looks like piano to me
lmao
ocean wyvern
look in docs https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DZyE3jJly8yzzS7kpD_ZltomQ3yrJU_v1pw0tWFUQa0/edit?usp=sharing
if you wanna see
i wrote a bit there
serene fractal
We need help from the Japanese guys from below
umbral eagleBOT
Alright bred, I'll remind you about https://github.com/RustCrypto/block-modes/tree/master/cfb8 in 6 hours. ID: 57588502
ocean wyvern
do i just barge in and ask politely if anyone understands anything or?
daring acorn
well...
warm geode
its not Chinese tho
hollow garnet
Alright **bred**, I'll remind you about https://github.com/RustCrypto/block-mode...
wait does this mean we have to decrypt the entire thing
timid swift
so far chatgpt4 has always told me "this is bullshit, get outta here" If I ask it for a translation that doesn't make sense. So if you want a translation bot, maybe that's better
ocean wyvern
if anyone wants to try their hand with sharpening the symbols i can give you my best 720p screenshot
i can also enlarge vertically and horizontally if that helps
serene fractal
If I write in the chat room below I will not be banned?
ocean wyvern
i don't know
copper vault
notsobot is on crack
what
it is chinese, the four words are Simplified Chinese
wtf he's telling you it isnt
copper vault
I know chinese
manic dagger
warm geode
its not chinese
rare shard
I'ts not kanji, the only similar ones were the very basic square shaped kanjis like
門 in the center and 目
copper vault
its not chinese
the four words are Simplified Chinese what are you on?
timid swift
When you say that it isn't kanji, do you mean that the symbols themselves aren't, or that they do not form a coherent sentence? Nonsense might still be able to be decoded to raw bytes into something more useful
serene fractal
What the language is this? Should I write to the Japanese or not?
manic dagger
dude as a Chinese i can clearly tell you even it is Chinese it doesn't have any meaning
warm geode
agreed
manic dagger
is this even remotely better?
besides i cant see anything from this image
ocean wyvern
besides i cant see anything from this image
understandable
rare shard
No, i meant it's really a stretch calling two boxes with a foot is a kanji, and JIS uses hiragana not even kanji
timid swift
besides i cant see anything from this image
Thanks for trying
manic dagger
rare shard
I'm just saying some shape kinda look similar but that's all
timid swift
No, i meant it's really a stretch calling two boxes with a foot is a kanji, and ...
Thanks for the clarification!
timid swift
inb4 asian discord members laughing at us so hard
Called it lel 
ocean wyvern
native maple
What is JIS
timid swift
in our context it's a way to hide messages in what looks like japanese gibberish.
serene fractal
What is JIS
Layout? idk
native maple
Oh JIS is evil i see
timid swift
as far as i understand, it's a character encoding like ascii
serene fractal
Through JIS, any set of characters means something
ocean wyvern
as far as i understand, it's a character encoding like ascii
or UTF-8
rare shard
Some of the static and russian guy riddle were using JIS
ocean wyvern
i'll have to leave soon enough
excuse me for the poor editing that i did in the docs
timid swift
No worries. We should add some notes from the discussion here though. People thinking it only looks vaguely like kanji
manic swift
SCHIZO
timid swift
Also, point of order, it seems that JIS does have kanji support in later versions if wikipedia is to be believed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JIS_encoding so the JIS-gibberish translation idea is not out of the question. Even if it's still a long pull
native maple
so the only thing left to do is find the closest characters for each one in the spectogram
ocean wyvern
basically
golden ravine
how close are we to solving it
manic swift
1%
rare shard
so the only thing left to do is find the closest characters for each one in the ...
Both side of the 門 is too jumbled to see, but i can see
門、目、日、王
golden ravine
timid swift
how close are we to solving it
potato
golden ravine
i had potato yesterday
copper vault
Both side of the 門 is too jumbled to see, but i can see
門、目、日、王
I think rather than just 王
those characters are 閏
dire orchid
i had potato yesterday
CLUE
timid swift
At least you're honest 
ocean wyvern
i don't know if it is enough
maybe it combines with the lyrics in some way
dunno
i for one have to leave for now tho
manic swift
nah i did got something
fresh shore
maybe we stuck simply bc of lack of programmer socks
manic swift
ocean wyvern
see y'all in a few hours
manic swift
bai
ocean wyvern
maybe we stuck simply bc of lack of programmer socks
maybe ask Vedal for some from his infinite stock
rare shard
Take care schizo brethren
ocean wyvern
bye
timid swift
no elp, not even socks
hollow garnet
no tutle socks
manic dagger
timid swift
could they be pairs of numbers?
xx 39 xx xx xx 25 xx xx xx xx xx 69 xx xx xx 29
ocean wyvern
Could be
worn bison
How are you? Are there any clues and movement towards a solution?
light arch
worn bison
I just keep analyzing everything we have because I'm too dumb for calculations ehe
fresh shore
welcome
manic dagger
fresh shore
prepare yourself to bunch of schizo
worn bison
prepare yourself to bunch of schizo
I am originally a schizo, so no problem
boreal fog
ANXIETY IS SUPERNATURAL FOR IT STOPS US FROM BEING HUMAN
manic dagger
yes
worn bison
ANXIETY IS SUPERNATURAL FOR IT STOPS US FROM BEING HUMAN
Ok I'm not a human
manic swift
lol
manic dagger
that's why we are all going to become AI
modest dragon
ANXIETY IS SUPERNATURAL FOR IT STOPS US FROM BEING HUMAN
are you suggesting a different interpretation of the supernatural human text or are you just going schizo
worn bison
The answer to the ARG will be the coordinates somewhere in the forest, and when someone arrives there, Vedal will kidnap him, extract his consciousness, upload it to AI and make a pair for Neuro on this basis
manic dagger
:schizo:
hollow garnet
The answer to the ARG will be the coordinates somewhere in the forest, and when ...
can I volunteer
shadow moat
Guys if you decode the base64 in Study 10:21 to hex, start at 2 and remove the non-number characters you get a valid landline number in burkina faso 
worn bison
can I volunteer
No, it's occupied by me
fresh shore
The answer to the ARG will be the coordinates somewhere in the forest, and when ...
and what the cons?
manic swift
the JS one?
worn bison
Guys if you decode the base64 in Study 10:21 to hex, start at 2 and remove the n...
Lol
Have you tried calling there?
light arch
btw there is a really high frequency sound in Study from 13:30 for the whole part of fallen down. idk if it's of any use, maybe just a background
worn bison
btw there is a really high frequency sound in Study from 13:30 for the whole pa...
So it's not just a screamer?
worn bison
idk if I should, could this be very expensive from germany?
It all depends on the operator and the time of the call, but I don't think it's more than $2
manic swift
i don't think this is japanese
it might be some of older language
that we don't know
manic dagger
Yes I don't see this as japanese either
shadow moat
It all depends on the operator and the time of the call, but I don't think it's ...
@worn bison i tried and it seems the number is owned by a carrier but not in use right now
worn bison
Looks like Chinese idk
manic dagger
No it's not Chinese
severe cove
nah, its too weird to be chinese
serene fractal
golden ravine
tutel language
worn bison
<@1101190531553448009> i tried and it seems the number is owned by a carrier but...
And there's nothing there?
golden ravine
golden ravine
why are you calling burkina faso
severe cove
this honestly reminds me of those matchstick puzzles where u can only move 1 matchstick so the math equation would make sense, those kind of puzzles 
jade ocean
can we just ask Alex
What you wanna ask me
shadow moat
And there's nothing there?
yeah but this makes me think that the number is decodable with the song
native maple
the number shouldn't be for calling but for texting using the snippet of code
native maple
alex be a better moral support madge
shadow moat
i didn't want to text "save me..." to a random person
native maple
we all need to be saved tho
jade ocean
Fucking mobile app
native maple
manic dagger
serene fractal
Jameshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1087521982817509426.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&size=40
uncut cargo
serene fractal
https://tenor.com/view/no-nitro-gif-25827489
Yes
native maple
serene fractal
Why would I want to feed this platform
elder musk
May be its just artefacts and we just seeing symbols
it does lowkey look just like chords with strumming
serene fractal
Much better
light arch
i only see 69
native maple
damn thats clean
warped torrent
I don't want to be an engineer 
worn bison
yeah but this makes me think that the number is decodable with the song
Sounds like idea
languid swan
This is the best one I can think of
Spectrum?
warped torrent
what's all this about anyways
native maple
now the question is, does it really do something or is it just sound being coincidentally like that
languid swan
where are we now
manic dagger
crimson tendonBOT
@manic dagger has leveled up! (2 ➜ 3)
languid swan
Looks like we're still at the beginning lol
golden ravine
neuroLookDown
severe cove
where are we now
u can check the google drive, its updated 
warped torrent
looking at spectrogram is my day to day work when working with audio
what do you need
languid swan
ok
native maple
where we a = spectrum of numbers at a certain frequency range shows these strange symbol, we need to figure out if these symbol are actually something or another schizo lead
warped torrent
ok first of all are we expected to download the video
fresh shore
not at all
golden ravine
maybe
native maple
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112082183235047506/1113403338902478948/image.png
Lomi already cleaned the symbols
warped torrent
because if so there's already a huge problem with the premise
blissful crow
where did they come from
native maple
where did they come from
warped torrent
opus can get stupidly lossy
blissful crow
oh that's from the spectrogram
native maple
read doc for more info
fresh shore
I was a one who downloaded it and posted into doc and can give you no credits how clean is this
worn bison
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112082183235047506/1113403338902478948/i...
Looks like edited by ai for quality improvement chinese
hollow garnet
(docs are in pins btw)
warped torrent
ok I guess I'll take a look when I'm home
manic dagger
Looks like edited by ai for quality improvement chinese
it looks more like Thai language tbh
golden ravine
nothing is in there
manic dagger
native maple
someone earlier said it might be JIS
severe cove
it doesnt't look chinese, japanese or thai imo, i might be wrong tho
severe cove
I can tell you it looks like nothing
ya this
warped torrent
no, I can tell you it's none of those
manic swift
Looks like edited by ai for quality improvement chinese
i literally draw it
languid swan
it doesnt't look chinese, japanese or thai imo, i might be wrong tho <:hmmm:6968...
I can be sure it's not Chinese
hollow garnet
I'm pretty sure it's just the piano or whatever instrument is in numbers
severe cove
it doesn't look like any language
manic swift
💀
languid swan
not like japanese
golden ravine
it looks like something vedal drew on a cave wall while drunk
worn bison
it looks more like Thai language tbh
Anyway I don't think it's any of the existing real languages, only if the characters are edited
warped torrent
are you guys looking at it from audition or rx or anything sensible
manic swift
Anyway I don't think it's any of the existing real languages, only if the charac...
wdym bro i speak egypt language
warped torrent
because if not you guys are making it way harder than it has to be
manic swift
i got 50 millions military power
native maple
i got 50 millions military power
languid swan
Check the spectrum of the two videos in au and there is nothing
hollow garnet
are you guys looking at it from audition or rx or anything sensible
audacity I think (assuming those are programs)
severe cove
the doc said the analysis of the spectrogram was conducted with Audacity
languid swan
manic swift
warped torrent
audacity is awful at this lol
manic dagger
native maple
warped torrent
you can clean up the signals much better with something like RX
severe cove
are you guys looking at it from audition or rx or anything sensible
are these better?
manic swift
try upscale it
warped torrent
I did a lot of spectral repairs
native maple
feel free to try anything
severe cove
Potential Lead 
native maple
if any people good at audio know what that means maybe it might help
blissful crow
drowsy pewter
Looking closely those symbols seem looped. They are probably 4-characters long chunks.
warped torrent
honestly it looks like nothing but standard range for instruments lol
worn bison
Wtf ._.
manic dagger
drowsy pewter
It's probably not an real alphabet.. it can be encrypted message with custom characters
warped torrent
also 8hz is incredibly low there's no useful information in that region whatsoever
worn bison
That actually crazy
warped torrent
no one sensible would hide anything below 15khz
neither above 20khz because it's dangerously close to cutoff shelf of lossy compressors
native maple
What Would Vedal Do, wwvd
warped torrent
anyways there's no point in spouting these from my mouth rn I'll look when I'm back
blissful crow
lets consider the fact
warped torrent
native maple
if your on the road stay safe
blissful crow
that it was compressed by youtube
severe cove
What Would Vedal Do, wwvd
Is this the new schizo catchphrase? wwvd 
worn bison
I will continue to think that it looks like a very broken Chinese
warped torrent
that it was compressed by youtube
anything below 20khz is a safe bet generally
manic dagger
:schizo:
blissful crow
ye
drowsy pewter
I will continue to think that it looks like a very broken Chinese
Even if.. it's just 4 repeteated characters.. one of them looks like 9, maybe it's a clue that "multiply by 9" means duplication and not actual mathematical multiplication.
warped torrent
the numeric symbol look makes sense for the ARG
blissful crow
yep
warped torrent
no instrument or vocal spectros would look like that
worn bison
I wanted to say that I am very concerned about the image of the golden section diagram at the end of the "clip" in "numbers". It's supposed to mean something, but I don't know what
fresh shore
what it's look like when no reversed then
wraith marten
Even if.. it's just 4 repeteated characters.. one of them looks like 9, maybe it...
if you want to schizo it, the symbol next to 9 seems to be "flipped"
worn bison
Even if.. it's just 4 repeteated characters.. one of them looks like 9, maybe it...
Thats so crazy.... .. ..
crimson tendonBOT
@worn bison has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)
severe cove
Even if.. it's just 4 repeteated characters.. one of them looks like 9, maybe it...
The last two symbols looks like a 9 and a flipped 9 
drowsy pewter
The last two symbols looks like a 9 and a flipped 9 <:1Acotsurprisecot:986686747...
Yes, it does.. it's probably the same symbol flipped.
manic swift
severe cove
native maple
severe cove
what that guy on left watching
the Numbers music video
manic dagger
warped torrent
he wants to be an engineer
drowsy pewter
the Numbers music video <a:SCHIZO:1094441407927820358>
...543rd time
warped torrent
worn bison
Today and yesterday I've been listening to "numbers" for several hours now, and I'm starting to go crazy yay
severe cove
drowsy pewter
Today and yesterday I've been listening to "numbers" for several hours now, and ...
You are suppose to end this sentence with "yeah" not "yey"
fresh shore
start with number two yeah
worn bison
You are suppose to end this sentence with "yeah" not "yey"
my English is very bad, sorry((
warped torrent
severe cove
start with number two yeah
Matching all the letters
native maple
Start with number 2 yeah Matching all the letters 572943 Add another 9 yeah Add another line yeah Multiply by 5 yeah Add another 6 yeah Flip the numbers backwards Make the 2 a 3 yeah Abcdefg Multiply by 9 yeah Add the numbers 2 4 17 is first yeah Abcdefg
manic dagger
fresh shore
547294
severe cove
You are suppose to end this sentence with "yeah" not "yey"
maybe they are hyped about going crazy
fresh shore
eut
manic swift
SCHIZO Start with number 2 yeah SCHIZO Matching all the letters 572943 SCHIZO Add another 9 yeah SCHIZO Add another line yeah SCHIZO Multiply by 5 yeah SCHIZO Add another 6 yeah SCHIZO Flip the numbers backwards SCHIZO Make the 2 a 3 yeah SCHIZO Abcdefg SCHIZO
manic dagger
Abcdefg
drowsy pewter
my English is very bad, sorry((
it was just a joke related to lyrics.. don't worry your english is good ^^
warped torrent
I hope vedal never hosts a ctf
fresh shore
man I don't remember how silly of me
native maple
whats a ctf
worn bison
it was just a joke related to lyrics.. don't worry your english is good ^^
IM SORRY((
severe cove
its a hacking competition right ?
native maple
isn't that called a hackathon ?
hollow garnet
I hope vedal never hosts a ctf
I'm sure nothing could every go wrong
warped torrent
yes these stupid ass challenges are typically under the misc category because of how obscure their solutions are
misc category can either be stupidly fun or just plain stupid
drowsy pewter
I would probably prefer ctf than this.. at least in ctf you can see progress
warped torrent
native maple
👀 someone correcting all the grammar on the docs
severe cove
lowkey looking forward to Azaka getting home 
blissful crow
true true
native maple
nah i just saw someone doing it lol
austere sun
i skimmed through chat, did someone actually decode something or is it megabait. what doc do i look at
manic swift
native maple
numbers
rocky barn
yeah but this makes me think that the number is decodable with the song
Could you share the number you generated? I find your idea really interesting. The abcde in the song could be a hint for us to convert to hex.
worn bison
and it also seems to me that we should analyze "I think I saw a ghost" more deeply, because this is the most suspicious part of "study"
native maple
hex doesn't have G tho
native maple
we are waiting patiently don't worry
austere sun
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17KrbPUAVu4wDTbj3sBtWTnjRsjDTCdh89F_5L1LvX0A/...
nothing new in solved, so it is indeed megabait?
blissful crow
fresh shore
azaka hand reveal ayo??
worn bison
can't use my laptop if there's no place for me to sit
Good luck ((
blissful crow
meat
native maple
yum
manic dagger
severe cove
nothing new in solved, so it is indeed megabait?
not yet yeah, but we are chasing a potential lead in spectrogram analysis, and we waiting for Azaka to get home, cuz they seem to be experienced in it 
warped torrent
I've not even watched the video yet besides the I DON'T WANT TO BE AN ENGINEER part
severe cove
by we i mean everyone else except me, cuz i dont know anything 
austere sun
didnt people already go through spectograms yesterday
wraith marten
Is there higher quality image of the spectogram?
warped torrent
I'll be looking through it in vc later probably
native maple
it's this video
worn bison
I've not even watched the video yet besides the I DON'T WANT TO BE AN ENGINEER p...
it may be a long time, but we need to think deeply about the entire length of the video, who knows what Easter eggs may be there
warped torrent
let me guess the base 64 string doesn't decode to anything meaningful
severe cove
didnt people already go through spectograms yesterday
apparently Audacity, the program they used isnt the best program, and the settings may be improved upon?
native maple
the spectrogram comes from this video
distant girder
let me guess the base 64 string doesn't decode to anything meaningful
at least we haven't found a way yet to decode it into anything meaningful
blissful crow
wicked sapphire
grammartically incorrect
Maybe if there was a comma after Oh it wouldn't do it.
severe cove
no one knows
manic swift
supple perch
hows the progress of things
severe cove
maybe we are all just Schizo and there's no meaning
worn bison
grammartically incorrect
Abcdefg can mean "multiply by 7" or "add 7" idk
warped torrent
is v2 voice being held hostage
severe cove
maybe there isnt a meaning in life 