Neuro ARG

[prime chasm]

are you going to run it over night ?

[hollow garnet]

no lol

i just wanted to see if it was possible

i got it to 100% cpu lessgo

[vapid token]

It looks like we need new people and their ideas. Or an unexpected big clue...

[prime chasm]

what's the estimated time now ?

[vapid token]

New video

[hollow garnet]

like 14 days?

idk my math is 1000% not right

[hardy burrow]

Clippermi's clip didn't receive a lot of traction

[vapid token]

I wonder how "I think I saw a ghost" would go on if it wasn't cut off, but I don't think there's more

[golden ravine]

make a funny discord schizo video from this thread

[timid swift]

alright, i pulled a few my schizo threads together with the world.execute(me) / totally not an OG alex hint sitaution. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u-ry4txWJfGublywcbUZiuwspEFktjoVa444DdiZpqM/edit#
I think someone with audio skills might make it further, or maybe confirm that i'm just crazy.

[vapid token]

Expectable?

[hollow garnet]

also idk what im looking for

this program is just looking for 6 bytes of png header

[vapid token]

I played the two songs at the same time, not from the debut though, and not in different ears, but I didn't hear any difference, definitely not in music

[timid swift]

worth noting!

[vapid token]

👍

[hollow garnet]

ok I'm shelving that program

too many unknowns to be useful right now

though if we knew what we were looking for it'd be easier

[timid swift]

man, imagine if the solution is really obvious and we all just aren't seeing it

[hollow garnet]

actually I just realised do I even need to decrypt the whole thing, can't I just do the first block?

if so that's a free 50x speedup

[timid swift]

will it reveal enough to verify when it's right, though?

[vapid token]

I imagine if there is no solution now, or in general

[hollow garnet]

I mean if my understanding is correct I only need the first X bytes to check for magic

anyways imma go sleep now

[timid swift]

you're right, but now the next problem reveals itself and that's programmatically checking for magic bytes without googling and looking around for a while

[timid swift]

Sleep tight'n stuff!

[potent cobalt]

I don't know if it's just Alex stirring the pot, but I'll check the two versions of world.execute(me);.

[timid swift]

I mean, if he's just trolling we kinda have to indulge him

[atomic lark]

do we know what's in here yet?

[true void]

yes already solved

[digital radish]

stuck between human and artificial....
how long will I keep falling for?```

[timid swift]

Check pins to catch up (:

[true void]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KSgJhs79HrMFz2AJnNa6tpMN_iU7JhiycBpMaIDKroY/edit

btw do we already go through the twitter?

both of vedal and neuro?

[digital radish]

nope

[atomic lark]

ok im just thinking if you know its encrypted maybe there's a clue somewhere for keys that help decrypt.

[vapid token]

not at all

[golden ravine]

what are we looking for on twitter

[timid swift]

We have not done this, but so far nothing points at twitter. Also, i feel like we should be nice and not dig up old shit Vedal may have written on twitter while drunk or whatever, yeah?

[copper spoke]

oh this is neat

[true void]

well just a thought

but yeah

i agree

[timid swift]

we can still go through neuro's though, if you feel like it :D

[potent cobalt]

I get the feeling that the ARG is meant to be self-contained, but I might be wrong on that.

[golden ravine]

location: "@Vedal987's Computer"
verified: false
created_at: '2023-02-03T18:39:23.000Z'
profile_image_url: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1621581178959532032/dXyjvzmg_normal.jpg
description: |-
  AI VTuber at https://t.co/BZQBABqZVP | Fan art #Heartheartart
  Created by @Vedal987 | All tweets made by Neuro-sama

[wicked sapphire]

Well he said all of her tweets are 100% her own

[timid swift]

true

[timid swift]

agreed, it's likely a wild goose chase

[feral forge]

again why did you use to decipher it

[potent cobalt]

It's Malbolge code. You can type it into an interpreter like http://www.malbolge.doleczek.pl if you want to recreate the answer.

[feral forge]

ah ok

[timid swift]

check the docs in pin for more info on our current status :)

[wicked sapphire]

The middle one is probably the ghost she saw

Oh sorry, forgot to remove the ping

Is there anything interesting at 11:58 except the fact the music "jump" and the image disappear?

I'm fine... fine

[modest dragon]

It's sus that that part seems to have nothing, other people have noticed before, but the frames are completely black

[timid swift]

we should've noted it in the docs if there is

[modest dragon]

yes me and kimmerly checked

nothing there

[wicked sapphire]

Kinda weird jump

Maybe the time or the word is important

If so it's the word "fine"

[modest dragon]

When it happens the second time in "Is anyone watching?", the text "anyone?" appears on screen, so there it has a purpose https://docs.google.com/document/d/147DwKIZ1UvGuWnCekBmOwyWZz9XUdfNgPqHkOdiiRPc/edit#heading=h.rbwoacmckf3h

but it seems to be nothing the first time around

[wicked sapphire]

No notes on 11:58 though

What if the time itself is important

[modest dragon]

yea because, nothing happens in 11:58

[wicked sapphire]

Except the photo isn't there

[modest dragon]

alright we can write it down in I don't want to be human

[wicked sapphire]

Thanks

[potent cobalt]

Oh really Norton, I wonder why that is...

[wicked sapphire]

What uʍop uǝllɐɟ means?

[modest dragon]

idk maybe it's spanish

(it's "fallen down" backwards and upside down)

[vapid token]

Fallen down just upside down

and backwards, yes

[tawny pasture]

Hello

[obtuse basalt]

I'm starting to think "fallen down" isn't the Undertale song

[tawny pasture]

Any progress?

[ruby swallow]

nwod nellaf

[modest dragon]

@digital radish Can I please have frame 37968 and frame 38015?

[digital radish]

in a moment

[modest dragon]

I will wait

[modest dragon]

ooo, spoopy

thanks

[placid bane]

Btw I'm sure some people already know but https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1112401279680008242 also exists

[modest dragon]

do we make shiro pin this?

[modest dragon]

@wind crypt pin this link to the other discussion, it's important too

[potent cobalt]

I can't tell any difference, though maybe someone with less cyborg ears could have a listen.

[vapid token]

[tawny pasture]

What’s this about?

[modest dragon]

This is for Alex's hint?

[potent cobalt]

Yeah.

[thick nacelle]

What what Alex's hint

[modest dragon]

We could make a doc about Alex's hint, if it doesn't exist already

[potent cobalt]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u-ry4txWJfGublywcbUZiuwspEFktjoVa444DdiZpqM/edit

[modest dragon]

great name lmao

[potent cobalt]

I didn't even notice that lol.

[modest dragon]

make sure to share those two videos in there too then

@digital radish can I get frame 37960 through 37967?

[modest dragon]

Alright thanks

[native oyster]

give me a sec

[tawny pasture]

I feel like it’s ever so slightly different

[jade ocean]

Who said i was a character?

I just found out about this and i wanted to help you solve it

[digital radish]

honestly i dont think alex has anything to do with the ARG

and in my opinion hes the biggest smarthead here

alex

[tawny pasture]

I don’t think any of the mods have to do with the ARG

[digital radish]

please save us

[jade ocean]

I thought that I heard something, maybe they were just my voices

[digital radish]

nor the admins

[golden ravine]

[digital radish]

i think vedal kept this to himself

[tawny pasture]

No, I think it’s different too, ever so slightly

I feel like it’s missing some words in some places

Hang on, let me check again

Nevermind

I’ve managed to forget how the song went 5 seconds after listening to it

[copper spoke]

lmao

[thick nacelle]

I don't think there is a difference

[tawny pasture]

Nah, it sounds the same

[jade ocean]

My wireless headphones were lagging so the music sounded distorted lmao

[potent cobalt]

Yeah, no offense, but I think it's just the voices. That or Twitch's terrible audio compression.

[potent cobalt]

Or wireless interference. :P

[true void]

imagine this shit is the infinite storage that surfaced

[crimson tendon]

@true void has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[true void]

to compress anything to a video lol

[copper spoke]

I am downloading both of the vods and will throw them in a spectrogram

[jade ocean]

The voices have voices of their own

[tawny pasture]

Good idea

[thick nacelle]

Do you guys think maybe the lyrics can have connection to the Dante's Inferno?

[potent cobalt]

So it seems.

[native oyster]

i put both of them in audacity and theres no difference

[potent cobalt]

Pretty much what I did.

[copper spoke]

if you guys need to download vods in the future, you can use https://github.com/lay295/TwitchDownloader so it doesn't get a giant watermark on it like the void-sama engineer clip

[potent cobalt]

I use yt-dlp.

[thick nacelle]

yt-dlp can also download them just saying

[copper spoke]

didnt know

can yt-dlp crop the download though?

[thick nacelle]

if you set it i think so

[potent cobalt]

What do you mean by crop?

[copper spoke]

so you dont need to download the whole 9GB

[potent cobalt]

Possibly, I haven't tried.

[thick nacelle]

you have to manually set it i think

[modest dragon]

@digital radish can I get frame 39672? ✋

[modest dragon]

thank you again lol

[celest stump]

literally me when studying any time ever

[modest dragon]

(he doesn't want to be an engineer)

[copper spoke]

so far I see a slight difference between the songs but its within error

difference of encding

like as in the samples don't 100% line up

not audible

lemme difference the tracks because the spectrograms look identical to me

[jade ocean]

The 3 versions of world.execute(me); that were played are identical, there is no difference between them

[copper spoke]

3?

[jade ocean]

Typo

[potent cobalt]

Three?

[copper spoke]

ah

[potent cobalt]

Oh, I almost had a heart attack.

[thick nacelle]

So there will be third time

got it

[golden ravine]

the third one is the alex version

[thick nacelle]

Alex cover

[gloomy yew]

*instrumental

[copper spoke]

I'm gonna trust this because the difference in encoding makes it impossible to difference them in audacity

even with resampling

[tawny pasture]

I decided to rename the "Console" images to "SMS code" to align more with the name they've been given in the document

[weary chasm]

Whoa

[copper spoke]

guys alex just dmed me a cryptic message, clearly its part of the ARG

[tawny pasture]

Hm?

[copper spoke]

I WILL NOT FALL FOR YOUR TRICKS

[weary chasm]

Hmm

[tawny pasture]

If only I could schizoreact

[jade ocean]

Bro

[thick nacelle]

How would he know its now

hmmm

[golden ravine]

[copper spoke]

[modest dragon]

I have been cataloguing the irregular frames for like 6 hours now and I'm still not done about to go to bed soon

@digital radish can I get frame 44119, pretty please?

[wind crypt]

hi study team

where's your schizo levels

[thick nacelle]

under the rock

[wicked sapphire]

Hi "numbers" Shiro

[thick nacelle]

bochi the rock

[wind crypt]

are you still checking each frame by hand

[modest dragon]

Alex is being manifasted into this chat, those are the current schizo levels

[thick nacelle]

We dont know if he is real but he is here

[wind crypt]

i entered the digital era and got java to process the lyrics for me

[modest dragon]

yes it takes a while when there's 40 of them in a row, here's what I've done so far https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i6unhNi89j7myI6VldRcoKuX3gohzgin3typuiPYAOM/edit#

[golden ravine]

java

[thick nacelle]

Study every frame there must be something SCHIZO

[jade ocean]

Seeing java here makes me want to leave the chat

[atomic lark]

lmfao

[golden ravine]

[digital radish]

gn

[modest dragon]

me rn

oh good night darkeew

[tawny pasture]

What the heck?

Engineer Morse Code?

[thick nacelle]

huh

[copper spoke]

Debut song

May 28 song

[tawny pasture]

That looks the same

Have we worked out the eye morse code?

[thick nacelle]

Umm it did not say much if i remember

just random stuff

[jade ocean]

Yes because it's identical, there was no difference in the song, i watched the vod back and it sounded ok, my wireless headphones were just dying or something. Sorry for throwing everyone off

[tawny pasture]

No worries

[copper spoke]

if this isn't enough to denounce alex's headphones, you can analyze these re-encodings. They are in sync +/- 1 sample

[jade ocean]

Exactly, that song was identical

[thick nacelle]

Dude will destroy Alex lmao

[copper spoke]

[thick nacelle]

I can jam to this

[tawny pasture]

Hm

What was the morse translation?

[copper spoke]

sorry to anyone reading the hint from the voices doc, I dropped something on my spacebar and it printed like 5 pages of spaces before I noticed

so what's next to solve, the numbers description?

[arctic canyon]

Now that Alex is here we are bound to win

[jade ocean]

Oh i can't help you guys

I can provide moral support though

[copper spoke]

aw man

[jade ocean]

And encouragement

[small sluice]

This is why you're not real.

[jade ocean]

The real Alex was the friends we made along the way

[modest dragon]

is my google stuck in a loading loop or is this where the folder ends? can anyone confirm? https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_a2mZmdNz7qFl_wDxlnyt1Px3Mkpih8Z

[timid swift]

lmao Alex! Sorry for making you a character 😂

[modest pawn]

I have a friend called Alex

[arctic canyon]

Best not to open the Frames folder

[tawny pasture]

I think those are just black frames

Empty

[modest dragon]

they aren't empty

I see them

the codes

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i6unhNi89j7myI6VldRcoKuX3gohzgin3typuiPYAOM/edit#

[wicked sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-nervous-sweating-concerned-monkas-gif-15154684

[tawny pasture]

Oh, I thought you meant the empty frames

Nevermind

[jade ocean]

The codes the frames the Morse the songs the irregularities

[wind crypt]

help me

[copper spoke]

no

[potent cobalt]

What do you need help with?

[timid swift]

i think we may collectively be beyond help

[blissful crow]

You're not supposed to intervene with the arg

[golden ravine]

i have been listening to Numbers for hours but its not helping

[atomic lark]

whats the matter?

[thick nacelle]

Numbers they are here SCHIZO

[wind crypt]

the numbers people are writing code to run on a HPC

[tawny pasture]

Okay, if "study" triggered morse in her eyes, what about "numbers?"

[modest dragon]

@digital radish it would be insane if you were to able to provide the 44157th frame to me

[copper spoke]

when the ARG is all over vedal better release I don't want to be an engineer. I want that shit in my musicplaylist

[digital radish]

unfortunatly yes

it would be insane

im in bed

[modest dragon]

ah, sorry for bothering you

[lunar imp]

Bruteforce maths, thats the way to go

[digital radish]

bother me more

[thick nacelle]

What if at the end of the ARG there is a link to a youtube videos of Vedal singing

[native oyster]

[atomic lark]

i want to believe the answer is in the numbers video but im too much of a dumbass to know what the numbers mean lmao

[copper spoke]

you know you can download the video and then use ffmpeg to export all the frames as pngs right

[atomic lark]

its got to be a key to decrypt something

[modest dragon]

yea but I need darkeew's format cuz he has the timestamps too

[native oyster]

thank god the song is actually good so i wont go insane after listening it to 100 times in a row

[potent cobalt]

This would be pretty funny. Especially since the audience that finds it first would hate it the most.

[modest dragon]

Alright after analysing every frame that darkeew's algorithm spit out as "irregular" I can safely confirm that this has lead absolutely nowhere

gonna put it in the goose chases doc

[thick nacelle]

Good job for confirming that

Now we know there is nothing more there

[atomic lark]

if all of us focus all out time trying to access these .bin files im sure we'd get somewhere with it

[potent cobalt]

So is pretty much the only lead we have is the numbers team?

[thick nacelle]

Numbers team will bruteforce the numbers SCHIZO

[golden ravine]

what bin files

[digital radish]

yes in 9 hours

[thick nacelle]

Better than 11 years

[digital radish]

me and shiro ate the codders

so i do tbe

and i only

wake up in d

[lunar imp]

I need help, voices in my head are making fun of me

[copper spoke]

I thought I might've heard something in Study but it doesn't seem like it. Just wanted to post this here incase someone else is too

[lunar imp]

Did people try to split audio channels already?

[potent cobalt]

What do you mean by split?

[lunar imp]

isolate left from right channel

[native oyster]

did that but didnt find anything

[modest dragon]

oh I remember someone doing this for one of the songs

[lunar imp]

it is in stereo after all, and descriptions says, "listen in headphones"

[thick nacelle]

listen in Mono SCHIZO

[copper spoke]

clearly we need to study in a quiet room for the next clue

[tawny pasture]

What about the SMS thing? Can we do nothing with that?

[thick nacelle]

study what SCHIZO

[wind crypt]

OH TRUE

WE CAN BRUTE FORCE THA TTOO

[lunar imp]

LMAO

[thick nacelle]

BRUTEFORCE everything

[golden ravine]

brute force it by sending the sms to every valid number

[wind crypt]

nono hear me out

i read the documentation for that library

it defines that field must conform to a specific standard of phone number format

[lunar imp]

We are spoiled with computational capabilities of today

[wind crypt]

and we know how long the number is by the base64 given

4 base64 -> 3 bytes

[digital radish]

sigh

go java man

do the java magic

[wind crypt]

[copper spoke]

they look basically identical

[wind crypt]

where is the lib again

[lunar imp]

What if...
what if...
just listen to me...
we...
collect the data
from all the different ARGs
AND TRAIN AN AI TO SOLVE IT

[wind crypt]

anyone have the link?

[digital radish]

https://stackoverflow.com

[golden ravine]

in the drive

[wind crypt]

found it

[thick nacelle]

oh yeah we can ask vedal to write AI for us

[tawny pasture]

I'm sure it won't take that long to brute force the SMS and Numbers ciphers

[wind crypt]

aha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.164

[lunar imp]

the part after static is 100% assymetrical, idk about everything else, so I just asked if anyone else tried to look at it already

[atomic lark]

im reading the YT comments and some of them are more schizo than all of us combined goddamn

[copper spoke]

you think so?

[thick nacelle]

do youtube comments talk with ghosts?

[atomic lark]

one comment said he took the description and pasted it in his browser and it redirected him back to the video... makes no sense whatsoever lmao

[potent cobalt]

I believe this is just a number format, so I guess it gives us an idea what the final form needs to be.

From Twilio:

[copper spoke]

difference map of the left and right channels of study

[tawny pasture]

I don't think that's even possible, to be honest

[wind crypt]

do we know if neuro sama was making an international call

[tawny pasture]

I've figured it out

The comments are the NPCs

[atomic lark]

thats what im saying

[wind crypt]

it is, its not the most helpful but its something

[atomic lark]

we're really thinking outside the box now

[wind crypt]

at least we know its not gonna be something like [phone]

E.164 numbers appear to exclusively be digits, possibly with a + prefix

[potent cobalt]

I believe it is required they start with a +, so you can use that to filter the results.

[potent cobalt]

^\+[1-9]\d{1,14}$

[lunar imp]

I guess it's just a door knock that is assymetrical, was thinking maybe there is a way to retract left from right to get a useful info from static

[blissful crow]

what's the current state

[wind crypt]

we have a problem actually

[obtuse basalt]

Ohio

[wind crypt]

er

no we're fine

nvm

[modest dragon]

[wind crypt]

no wait we do

"DQ5zl4ighWwiag7y+cWFQg==" is the base64 number

[modest dragon]

x2

[wind crypt]

24 chars

which means it decodes to 18 bytes

[copper vault]

[thick nacelle]

Just listened to Study with different stereos modes i dont hear anything new SCHIZO

[wind crypt]

but by the E.164 standard

the number can be at most 15 digits

even if we consider the addition of a leading +

[tawny pasture]

Is it even a real number?

[wind crypt]

it wont be 18 bytes

it'll be 16 bytes max

so it might be random garbage and not a number as expected

[lunar imp]

Maybe its just the voices in my head then

[potent cobalt]

Remember the +.

[wind crypt]

the phone number is given as a string

so each digit is one char = one byte

[golden ravine]

thats 16 bytes

[wind crypt]

the + is also a char which is one byte

the number is at most 15 bytes long, and the + adds one more byte for a total of 16 max

[obtuse basalt]

It might be a key for something else, but it won't be a number I guess

[wind crypt]

but the base64 is 18 bytes

[lunar imp]

what if "(", ")", "-" are also encoded?

[wind crypt]

then neuro is using the library wrong

[lunar imp]

xdxdxdxd

[wind crypt]

it also causes a huge headache

brute forcing just digits and maybe a leading + is hard but

[copper vault]

This is truly a moment

[wind crypt]

doing it with .()- and whitespace as well

makes it even harder

besides what takes an 18 byte key

💀

[copper spoke]

here is the duration of the static, does it see significant? Looks like there might be more code to me

or is this solved already?

[lunar imp]

well, if there are whitespaces or "-" there should be repetitions in encoded string, right?

[wind crypt]

sadly not

base64 doesnt line up one-to-one with binary:

[lunar imp]

I see

[crimson tendon]

@lunar imp has leveled up! (6 ➜ 7)

[lunar imp]

Maybe you know something?

[wind crypt]

wait no

[lunar imp]

Didn't see anything in the docs when last checked (about 3-4hrs ago)

[wind crypt]

wait

maybe it does decode to 16 bytes

i might be throwing

[thick nacelle]

oh

[golden ravine]

it does

[copper spoke]

assuming my translation isn't bad . .- .. ..- . .. ..- . ..

[native oyster]

youre thinking about the static?

[wind crypt]

i hate base64

[obtuse basalt]

18 bytes

[lunar imp]

ye

[native oyster]

its a sample

[wind crypt]

ok ya no it is actually 16 bytes

phone plan is back on the table

[native oyster]

no idea where its from but its used in other songs

[blissful crow]

so whats the phone plan

[thick nacelle]

phone number monkaS

[wind crypt]

try every number of this format

in... whatever we think the number is for

[obtuse basalt]

The search for Neuro's number

[steady fossil]

what's the format?

[thick nacelle]

imagine the call with neuro

[blissful crow]

more like vedals number

xd

[lunar imp]

reference to the song "AIUE" by Minami 🤔

[obtuse basalt]

Even better

[wind crypt]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.164

[modest dragon]

we might have to text "save me..." to the number, that's what the code says in the video

[golden ravine]

text to every number

[blissful crow]

that would be fun

[wind crypt]

text to every number

[lost anvil]

surely

[steady fossil]

I'll expect an SMS soon then

[thick nacelle]

text to numbers SCHIZO

[wind crypt]

ill try yours first if you send it to me

[blissful crow]

wtf wtf

[thick nacelle]

yoo

[copper spoke]

[thick nacelle]

it must be it

[wind crypt]

ENGINEERS

[modest dragon]

📣 EAIUEIUEI

[true void]

monkaS engineers

[copper spoke]

nothing on google

[copper vault]

.tw
I knew it
Vedal is working with the Taiwanese

[austere sun]

based arg solving, find no clues and just bruteforce everything.
best coders will be chosen by vedal

[thick nacelle]

google censoreship monkaS

[copper spoke]

hey guys

am I schizo

[blissful crow]

yes

[copper spoke]

or does the static in Study sound like it has a human voice saying something

[native oyster]

the static is nothing

[modest dragon]

🤙 SCHIIZZZZZZZ

[native oyster]

its just a sample chill

[copper spoke]

are you sure

[native oyster]

yes

[thick nacelle]

what moment

[copper spoke]

proof?

[native oyster]

im trying to find the song someone linked here that had the same sample

[lunar imp]

it does, but i am a Schizo

[native oyster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBJPhBGvuY0

[copper spoke]

[wicked sapphire]

We are looping

[crimson tendon]

@wicked sapphire has leveled up! (31 ➜ 32)

[native oyster]

yeah i was so fucking mad when i found out because i wasted like 3 hours on that static shit

[wicked sapphire]

Never moving forward

[native oyster]

ill add that to the doc

[copper spoke]

we need to document it

[wicked sapphire]

I’m going to write a new verse to the song

[copper vault]

We need to get more organize

[modest dragon]

I don't want to be an engineer nightcore mix when

[blissful crow]

[golden ravine]

stuck with google docs

[wicked sapphire]

I hope the lyrics aren’t AI generated.

[thick nacelle]

study is stuck in my recommended forever now

[wicked sapphire]

[copper vault]

Need a solution sheet where we just list out every solution we came up with and cross them out if it doesnt work

[modest dragon]

bro imagine if the number lyrics are just ai generated randomness

[fading cipher]

i`m also can hear some think behind the static or just my brain melting

[blissful crow]

that wouldn't surprise me

[copper spoke]

@fading cipher its a sample

not part of ARG

[wicked sapphire]

It would prove we were all schizo

[copper spoke]

imo the sample shouldnt have been used

[modest dragon]

guys it was already documented btw

[native oyster]

fuck you vedal!!

[copper spoke]

its an ARG, people will go schizo over it

[lunar imp]

The true schizo is the friends we made along the way

[wicked sapphire]

ALEX IS REAL

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-screaming-gif-11035878

[fading cipher]

voices

[modest dragon]

It's okay guys the numbers chat is also going in loops

[obtuse basalt]

The voices tell me to spend 3 more years wasting

[wind crypt]

LET US COOK

[native oyster]

what about the malbolge solution. wtf do we do with it

[copper spoke]

I hope the times that the songs stutter isn't significant

because its very hard to tell the stutter occurs

[wicked sapphire]

Mix it with the number solution or some

[potent cobalt]

What the heck did I do to the QR code? (This isn't part of the ARG, I just seemed to have messed up the file.)

[steady fossil]

"I don't want to be an engineer" is just a song about how vedal is burning out from the stress of programming neuro

[modest dragon]

It's a carpet now

[copper spoke]

off-by-one loop

[true void]

classic

[potent cobalt]

Well I did it in imagemagick, so at least it isn't my off-by-one-loop.

[copper spoke]

kek

@wind crypt what if we touched cursors in the google doc 👉👈

[wind crypt]

which one

💀

[copper spoke]

bottom of study

theres 3 other cursors at the bottom of study now 💀

5 oh no

[obtuse basalt]

Party

[wicked sapphire]

[copper spoke]

who is the

[thick nacelle]

its me

[native oyster]

no its me

[obtuse basalt]

It's neuro

[golden ravine]

what are you all doing down there

[thick nacelle]

group mas-

[ancient cloud]

🤨

[atomic lark]

[copper spoke]

group nap

[thick nacelle]

group nap

[modest dragon]

[golden ravine]

[fading cipher]

numbers

[crimson tendon]

@fading cipher has leveled up! (5 ➜ 6)

[lunar imp]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-confused-math-huh-what-gif-10118626

[golden ravine]

5 -> 6

[maiden wigeon]

❗

[wind crypt]

5 -> 6

[copper spoke]

guys I have an announcement

[thick nacelle]

5=6

[copper spoke]

this lyric is definitely "Sitting on my desk", not "Sitting on the desk"

[maiden wigeon]

[thick nacelle]

pog

[copper spoke]

I wonder if the lyrics actually have significance

[true void]

progress PagBounce

[copper spoke]

some of the lyrics from I don't want to be an engineer are reused in Fallen down

word for word

[modest dragon]

vedal too lazy to make a new song so he just remixes the same song 6 times and calls it a 30 minute album

[copper spoke]

[blissful crow]

In Africa, every 60 seconds, a minute passes

[maiden wigeon]

honestly this might very well be the truth

[copper spoke]

ok but fr vedal if you're in chat you gotta release those songs after the ARG is over

[blissful crow]

Together we can sto-

[ancient cloud]

fr

these songs are unironically good

[thick nacelle]

true

[copper spoke]

I hope to god that I think I saw a ghost gets completed too

the buildup to the drop is just too perfect

[wind crypt]

@copper spoke

[copper spoke]

hai

[wind crypt]

can you identify all repeated blocks

and start numbering them in order of first appearance

and then number the entire lyrics sheet from study

[copper spoke]

I was thinking exactly that

[wind crypt]

i wanna know if the numbers in numbers correspond to blocks of lyrics from study

kinda like compression

[copper spoke]

the problem is that each phrase is entirely up to interpretation

[wind crypt]

without going overboard, make some optimistic assumptions based on what we're after here

if something is close, consider it a match

[copper spoke]

why is it

Working overtime
Tryna finish this in time
Got myself into this mess
Can we really pass this test, yeah

instead of

Working overtime tryna finish this in time
Got myself into this mess
Can we really pass this test, yeah

[wind crypt]

idk

relisten to both parts ig

[copper spoke]

I think this is too

I think vedal was just low on time

[wind crypt]

got any better leads to pursue?

[copper spoke]

no-

[blissful crow]

meow

[copper vault]

we locate where vedal lives and question him face to face

[wind crypt]

being arrested is not part of the ARG

please dont do that

[copper vault]

nah I know just fooling around

lost all my sanity since the whole ARG thing

[copper spoke]

do these numbers mean anything?

the timestamps

[blissful crow]

Wdym it obviously is

[austere sun]

likely not, because some songs are repeating, if all had different times maybe

[copper spoke]

but the repeated songs are at different tempos

and some of them get cutoff early

[austere sun]

what I am thinking, is maybe order matters, since if we give every song a digit that would be 14 digit number

[copper spoke]

its possible this was intentional

[modest dragon]

the video does loop twice, maybe only the first bunch is useful

[copper spoke]

04789111222233

maybe not

seems useless

[austere sun]

maybe something more literal, like fist song is 1 and when it appears again it is 1 again

and maybe song name is relevant like fallen down is 6 and upside down is 9

[copper spoke]

1234121

seems useless

and as 14 digits: 12341211234121

again, seems useless

[modest dragon]

good luck to y'all cracking the codes, I'm going to bed

[tawny pasture]

Rest well!

[timber whale]

i just got back after a day
how much progress we made?

[hardy burrow]

verses are usually four lines long, no?

[copper spoke]

are they?

I don't know lyrical theory

[red hare]

so how's the arg going guys?

[hardy burrow]

uhhh

https://www.wikihow.com/Write-Song-Lyrics

AABA

where's the neuronoted sticker when i need it 😭

[hardy burrow]

judging by the Google documents, seems we haven't progressed that much

[true void]

DQ5zl4ighWwiag7y+cWFQg==

this one could be a channel id

idk if you could search a channel by a id

[fading cipher]

supposed to be a number i think

[true void]

well the ids do have the same length

[golden ravine]

youtube channel ids?

[true void]

of youtube

yes

[golden ravine]

they start with UC

this is a channel id https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqOK_pl0LS0e8Lp7HMRDZsw

[true void]

ohh i see

[potent cobalt]

That and YouTube's Base64 is different.

They use - and _ instead of + and /.

[golden ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUqOK_pl0LS0e8Lp7HMRDZsw

[copper spoke]

I don't believe its base64 encoded because this is what it looks like decoded

has anyone tried encoding it into base64 though? Although unlikely, maybe this could be a key of some kind? Its 32 bytes long RFE1emw0aWdoV3dpYWc3eStjV0ZRZz09

[feral forge]

where is this from?

[river mantle]

somehow i'm dreaming about this ARG last night lolz

[feral forge]

where did this come from

[copper spoke]

Study

[feral forge]

ah

ok

[copper spoke]

the javascript code

[feral forge]

sorry i cant see the google doc bc my computer is broke, how did it come from study

[wind crypt]

it probably is base64 encoded binary

[copper spoke]

true

[true void]

body.messages[0].content.destinationNumber ='DQ5zl4ighWwiag7y+cWFQg==';

[wind crypt]

lots of things output ugly binary data, and your options for presenting it are really either hex or base64

[true void]

this is the code in the docs

[feral forge]

thx

[true void]

there is a frame with the code

and we got from there

[feral forge]

ah ok

[copper spoke]

11011110111001110010111100010001010000010000101110110010001011010101110111100101111100111000101100001011000010

[feral forge]

i like hex more: 0d 0e 73 97 88 a0 85 6c 22 6a 0e f2 f9 c5 85 42

[copper spoke]

Here is formatted nicer: 11011110 11100111 00101111 00010001 01000001 00001011 10110010 00101101 01011101 11100101 11110011 10001011 00001011 000010

I'm unsure what this does for us though

[feral forge]

i think the code around it matters too

the first message, with this as the destination number

[copper spoke]

so tell me

how do we get from these bytes to a phone number

[feral forge]

so this is probably the last thing we need to solve the first part

[feral forge]

eh?

[copper spoke]

the library takes in a phone number

[feral forge]

ah

what library

[wind crypt]

please add the trailing two zeroes

its driving me nuts

[copper spoke]

I didnt chop off anything

[fading cipher]

nodejs library for sending sms

[copper spoke]

that is how it is

[feral forge]

is it in the video? where in it?

[copper spoke]

unless there should be two zeros at the start?

[wind crypt]

your converter is cursed

[feral forge]

yes it is.

[fading cipher]

10:21

[feral forge]

00001101 00001110 01110011 10010111 10001000 10100000 10000101 01101100 00100010 01101010 00001110 11110010 11111001 11000101 10000101 01000010

[copper spoke]

oh

its because dotnet

its twos compliment

[feral forge]

this?

[fading cipher]

yeah

[copper spoke]

oh my god check the doc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/147DwKIZ1UvGuWnCekBmOwyWZz9XUdfNgPqHkOdiiRPc/edit#

[manic swift]

Yahoo any progress?

[feral forge]

I said i can't my computer is f*cked

[copper spoke]

?

how can you not open a google doc

[wind crypt]

?

i am

not much new there

[copper spoke]

talking to catt0s

[feral forge]

all google apps are broken on my computer atm

[fading cipher]

nope

[copper spoke]

I dont understand, its webpages

if it doesn't load use browser guest mode

[feral forge]

yes. all the browsers i try are borken

even on other networks

[manic swift]

:c

[fading cipher]

how you manage to broke google tho?

[feral forge]

prob a DNS issue but i didn't chnage anything

[manic swift]

I skipped my class today

[feral forge]

and gmail

eg in chrome:

[fading cipher]

skipped my sleep today (

[true void]

Wtf how

[feral forge]

anyway, now that you can see that i cant get to the doc

[copper spoke]

reset your network settings

code 5 means network problem

[feral forge]

i have already tried even booting to a liveusb of linux

so idk what the problem is

[copper spoke]

damn L

[golden ravine]

clearly we need this 13 14 115 215 136 160 133 108 37 106 14 242 249 197 133 66

[feral forge]

prob some network adapter firmware update that i just did broek

anyway

[copper spoke]

I discovered my issue whoops

[steady fossil]

where did this come from? I've seen it a couple of times

[copper spoke]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/147DwKIZ1UvGuWnCekBmOwyWZz9XUdfNgPqHkOdiiRPc/edit#

[steady fossil]

Any chance that's the key for Numbers?

Decoded it is exactly 16 byes, which is the size we need for a 128-bit key to decrypt numbers

[copper spoke]

@wind crypt has it been tried

[manic swift]

I DO MISS SOMETHING

no one told me

[feral forge]

@copper spoke "add another line" is missing

[copper spoke]

?

[feral forge]

ope wrong thread

[wind crypt]

has what been tried?

i dont think we've tried it with every cipher type

[copper spoke]

.

[wind crypt]

i ran it through a cheap online tool but no dice

its definitely a strong key candidate

so if you have a good cipher suite available

id love it if you tried it out

for non-IV modes take the whole 1040-byte digest as ciphertext

for IV modes take the first 1024 bytes as ciphertext

and the last 16 bytes as IV

[copper spoke]

can we delete this because we concluded that it was an audio sample?

[tawny pasture]

Honestly, I do wish I could help more at this stage

But I'm kind of just an investigation team member more than a decipherer

[pearl mesa]

the static has consistent high pitch tone thats not in the sample i found but i dont see how that oculd have any significance

i also cant find the real original sample just the song that uses it

but idk how to really look for it anyway

not that its significant either

[copper spoke]

is it the same high pitch thats used later during the breathing?

[pearl mesa]

but idk anything about this encoding stuff so not much i can do

idk whats in that

https://i.imgur.com/FJPgOFG.png study on top you can see that bright consistent line

song with same sample on bottom with its own additions to it

[copper spoke]

probably just the song mix

[pearl mesa]

yea i dont think it means anything

[copper spoke]

study also has that extra high bass too

[pearl mesa]

you dont really hear the tone unless you slow the song down

[livid violet]

woah T

[pearl mesa]

been trying to find anything from the video or audio itself but i've found nothing, not that i know how to really do this stuff but better than any of this code and math shit

[feral forge]

yeah we saw that and thought it was sus

[manic swift]

not sure if this related lol

[golden ravine]

[pearl mesa]

1 thing is maybe try to find any other "alt" accounts on other sites i didnt try too hard

[copper spoke]

my friend has a tool that was built essentially to streamline doxxing/mass account collection for a given user, it could be useful in this case lmao

however most other ARGs also link to all of the sister accounts

[smoky oasis]

so im guessing that code is difficult to solve

[copper spoke]

we have 2 different codes to crack right now and we're making little progress

a short one from study and a long one from numbers

eh I guess 3, we have 2 from numbers

[smoky oasis]

send me them so i can do a quick convert and hexdump to see if its compressed data

[copper spoke]

one of them is encrypted, one is basically a language probelm, and the last we just don't know the code's use

[smoky oasis]

hm

[copper spoke]

I assume they all come together as the key and IV to decrypt the next step

but finding the encryption algorithm and figuring out the unclear language is the problem

[valid flint]

This is crazy

[wind crypt]

idk if this is joke or not but id rather not see this advertised

[copper spoke]

i am not posting it

probably wont even try it

[smoky oasis]

yeah so unless the code is reversed then base64 encrypted then compressed, i have found 0(zero) headers that correspond to any archive file format

so from what i can gather, were trying to find a username password and phone number to send to an SMS server

[unique mason]

hallo everyone

any breakthroughs?

[copper spoke]

#1112401279680008242

we're focusing on the numbers description

since there seems to be only 1 piece of info left in study that we are unsure of its use

[languid swan]

I just woke up.

[copper spoke]

2?

[languid swan]

Sorry I just confused what came from "study".

[digital radish]

im gonna bruteforce the numbers today

[languid swan]

hashcat?

[digital radish]

custom

ill make my own program

[languid swan]

I used hashid to try to analyze those ciphertexts, nothing was analyzed

So I don't even know what method to use to crack it.

[digital radish]

we're sticking to aes 128

17xxxxxxxxxxx24 only numbers

well

i might do xxxxxxxxxxxxxx24

[languid swan]

With no luck we could spend a week or more.

But it seems there is no other way.

[timber ravine]

there should be a way to do it without brute forcing

[digital radish]

i mean ill make it so everyone can run the program on their pc

[timber ravine]

but once we have the answer finding the question will be easier

[digital radish]

but nothing guaranteed

[digital radish]

and not generating already generated numbers

!trol

ok

sure discord

[languid swan]

distributed computing, cool

[unique mason]

ic

[copper spoke]

(that being the phone number)

[timber ravine]

you should write it in malbolge to become more connected to the ARG

[unique mason]

the js program or just the number?

[copper spoke]

the number

its encoded with something, we don't know what

or its a key of some kind

[unique mason]

perhaps its a key we'll get from Numbers?

[copper spoke]

thats my thought

[unique mason]

also, was anything revealed in the stream last night? And was the morse code a red herring or no?

[copper spoke]

what morse code

more specific please lol

[unique mason]

the void eyes

[copper spoke]

I've not seen anything about that

sorry :(

[languid swan]

That's like Morse code. but several people tried to transcribe it last night

[timber ravine]

the phone number in the code right or am i thinking of the wrong thing

[languid swan]

It seems that there is nothing useful. At least on the bright side.

[digital radish]

void eyes was a glitch

phone number wasnt a phone number

[unique mason]

its fine-

[digital radish]

just a way of sharing the string with us

[unique mason]

ah

[plucky maple]

it's time to end, no answer fr

[copper spoke]

proof?

[digital radish]

none

[copper spoke]

[digital radish]

but a morse code for 4 letters is stupid

[plucky maple]

[unique mason]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[copper spoke]

true

[digital radish]

what would it say

"STOP"

[copper spoke]

LGMA

[digital radish]

LIGMA

[ember tapir]

DEEZ

[copper spoke]

[languid swan]

Here's the transcription I'm trying to make. I'm not an expert so tried several times. But it doesn't seem to mean anything.

[plucky maple]

so no answer

[copper spoke]

the solution is that there was no ARG all along

we are just all

[languid swan]

Then I'm a clown. Even everyone is. 🤡

xD

[timid swift]

I ain't no clown! I'm a very sane person (false)

[plucky maple]

just don't forget to watch Neuro stream

[copper spoke]

the best way might be to run CyberChef locally so its faster than the damn website

and then we can automate outputs too

[plucky maple]

so what's the point now

[unique mason]

we wait until the brute forcing method works

[unique mason]

for generating the aes key

[languid swan]

Maybe? Probably we need to wait for Darkeew's program for now. I'm going to look at some other arg games for inspiration.

[timid swift]

I made a little overview-links doc. Did I miss anything? https://docs.google.com/document/d/17KrbPUAVu4wDTbj3sBtWTnjRsjDTCdh89F_5L1LvX0A/edit

[languid swan]

Small question, has anyone tried something like els

[shadow moat]

did you see this
#neurotic-neurons message

[languid swan]

random trying

[calm parrot]

Good morning engineers. What leads are we pursuing now?

[celest stump]

Anything

[calm parrot]

Ohhhh we’ve reached that point, have we?

[pulsar kiln]

now im just listen to the song over and over

[calm parrot]

The one thing I’ve figured out through this ARG so far is that it’s convinced me i never want to be an engineer

[timid swift]

I see, so Vedal brainwashed his competition out of the field
Clever ttl.

[copper spoke]

I don't want to be an engineer~~

[jade ocean]

You got this guys I believe in you 💜

[pearl mesa]

what you know drop the clues "alex"

[honest harness]

i mean what do we even got when even the transcript is debated 🐢

[native maple]

bad youtuber posting song without making the caption let's all cancel @_neurosama

[honest harness]

either way we're still on the starting line

[manic swift]

guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUsWBCH8Ch8&t=57s

[honest harness]

until we can find any other unlisted video or another website, we haven't progressed at all

[manic swift]

this is familar

[languid swan]

btw, is there any original picture of fib in number in the drive?

[manic swift]

but it

might be incorrect as well

XD

[rotund wing]

has anyone tried sending the decoded message to neuro yet?

[languid swan]

last stream

[manic swift]

the decoded one?

i think that's a part of the lyrics

[unique mason]

I was going through the spectogram of the world.execute(me) song for 28th and the debut. There is a difference in the second half of the two spectograms. Its noticeable. The horizontal middle band is different

[pearl mesa]

@daring acorn solve this arg

[wicked sapphire]

Lomi, are you going to be the one who does the documentary?

[manic swift]

[unique mason]

[blissful crow]

[manic swift]

wdym by that

[daring acorn]

what are we on rn

[manic swift]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qm6GSRlstTmjbyOFCuH1OhSmPK4pi4Aa?usp=sharing

[daring acorn]

also there's an ARG??

what da hell

[unique mason]

cracking the key for in the lyrics of Numbers. It might be for the js program in Study

[valid flint]

Can you subtract the two?

[pearl mesa]

yes ill tag you on the nerdied discussion too

i thought you could be useful

[unique mason]

i dont have the software for it

[manic swift]

yea XD

Is has been out for 2 day since debut now

[honest harness]

The waiting screen had a QR code which lead to the youtube channel

[wicked sapphire]

Well someone would need to upload to YouTube “how did the Neuro sama community solved Vedal’s secrets [Neuro ARG]”

[manic swift]

but i'm a clipper

[valid flint]

If you have the files for it I can try

[manic swift]

i'm not a youtuber

xd

[unique mason]

sure-

[languid flax]

[unique mason]

we'll have to wait for matpat

posts it circa 2026

[manic swift]

I'm not a professional like mattpat

[unique mason]

they r on the drive btw. If u have the software u can try. But my laptop is too slow to run any sort of sound software ;-;

[jade ocean]

[unique mason]

give us a hint alex

[modest pawn]

the voice

[jade ocean]

Who is Alex

[native maple]

come multithread brute force AES 128bit with us

[jade ocean]

As I said guys I can't help you

But I can provide moral support

And encouragement

[daring acorn]

i just joined in an di have no idea whats happening

[manic swift]

give us a hint

[daring acorn]

128 bytes only?

[prime chasm]

Alex is not a character

[unique mason]

none of us do ;-;

[manic swift]

wait

he said he can't help

[native maple]

no hints but official lyrics for numbers would be cool

[unique mason]

what if he is the ghost-

[daring acorn]

can i get the AES encoded string pls

[unique mason]

bits*

[plucky bronze]

why is google drive editable by anyone

[manic swift]

so he might contributed with the puzzle

[celest stump]

we are honestly stuck because some of the lyrics are a bit difficult to hear with the AI voice

[manic swift]

[unique mason]

its in the cracking the numbers discussion

[plucky bronze]

anyone could delete the whole drive

[manic swift]

alex do u know anything abt this : D

[jade ocean]

I can't give you any hints I need to go to sleep so today's dev stream doesn't fuck up my sleeping schedule even more

[gloomy yew]

Did the chat went that schizo to create a religious cult of a character named Alex?

[jade ocean]

I am not a character in the ARG, I'm just here for moral support and encouragement

[prime chasm]

what sleeping schedule

[manic swift]

[unique mason]

[native maple]

Alice > Alex

[languid swan]

[arctic canyon]

Just what a character in an ARG would say

[pearl mesa]

he just cant help due to skill issue

[wicked sapphire]

Alex, is it pickled or object object?

[daring acorn]

uhh @native maple i dont think you can brute-force a 128 key

2,158,000,000,000 years

[wicked sapphire]

[arctic canyon]

Let's analyse the response pattern in every single one of Alex's messages since April

[native maple]

you just need luck thats fine

[unique mason]

we have a the first 2 and last two numbers-

[blissful crow]

oh

so you just want to do that

?

[native maple]

1 trillion possibilities it's fine guys

[daring acorn]

that's not a lot you knoe

[prime chasm]

we unironically already checked if it's pickled (it is not)

[blissful crow]

bruteforce check every number?

[jade ocean]

The pickles the objects the dictionaries the lists

[manic swift]

encouragement

[crimson tendon]

@manic swift has leveled up! (104 ➜ 105)

[manic swift]

lol

[native maple]

it looks something like that don't worry guys it's fine

[unique mason]

its not solidified if those numbers are correct either

but, the interpretations of the lyrics for a 128 bit key lead to 17 as the first ones and 24 as the last one so

we all going here

[native maple]

we also try to solve the lyrics with every schizo numbers we hear while listening thousand of time to the song

[languid swan]

How about the lyrics recognized by AI

[native maple]

every attempt is good

imo we are stuck because of a lyric issue

totally not skill issue

[daring acorn]

yeah i have whisper with a base.en model

i could transcribe the entire video

as a .srt (subtitles) file

idk if that'll help tho

[native maple]

it'll help

[unique mason]

anything can help at this point-
please do

[daring acorn]

the numbers video right

[unique mason]

ye

[languid swan]

idk I'm trying to use multiple ai to trans it
for error correction