Neuro ARG

[languid swan]

+17 doesn't seem to exist

[calm veldt]

Bahamas is what i'm getting

Not sure if that matters

[wind crypt]

whats the keyyyy

[tawny pasture]

I am also getting Bahamas

[timber ravine]

thats serial number

[copper vault]

serial number is not country code

[tawny pasture]

Serial number?

[calm veldt]

[tawny pasture]

Hang on, I'm lost

[copper vault]

https://www.relianceglobalcall.com/enterprise/international-calling/international-dialing-codes

the number on the right is the country code

[wind crypt]

thought i was cooking for a sec

[copper vault]

ex. Canada is 38 Serial Number but 1 as Dialing codes (country code)

[wind crypt]

oh wait

input as base64

[languid swan]

I tried

[calm veldt]

It's just these two lines that are driving me crazy, there must be something that those numbers can line up with

[wind crypt]

no luck

[languid swan]

as if there is nothing

[tawny pasture]

Bahamas dialing code is +1

[vestal falcon]

AAA

[copper vault]

no that's canada

[tawny pasture]

Bahamas also has it, it's just +1 (242)

Area code 242

[copper vault]

well in that case

hmm

idk

[tawny pasture]

There is no +17.

[copper vault]

I don't think serial number will be use as clue

but I do see 1-7xx

[calm veldt]

1745-537072147924 ?

[wind crypt]

hold on

from study

is that a numbers tie-in

[copper vault]

I tried that using those numbers

no luck

feel free to try tho

[calm veldt]

But what area code has 1-7xx ?

[languid swan]

Do numbers correspond to letters?

[vestal falcon]

we should hire a cryptographer

[haughty kindle]

He will ask what we want him to do.

And we dont know ourselfs.

[fiery sparrow]

+17 is Bahamas phone code number

[vestal falcon]

solve arpg

[calm veldt]

We went over this already

[tawny pasture]

It's not

[manic swift]

guys

[tawny pasture]

+1 (242) is Bahamas

[fiery sparrow]

Oh wait, it's not. My google is bad.

[tawny pasture]

Google is a bad search engine

[manic swift]

i think anny is connected to the ARG

[haughty kindle]

?

[languid swan]

?

[crimson tendon]

@languid swan has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[calm veldt]

There is only like 6 options for a phone number that could start with 1-745

So 1745-537072147924 could maybe mean something?

[manic swift]

because one of her stream i saw she watch about

an internet video thingy

[obtuse basalt]

"Matching all the letters"
572943
EGBIDC (if A=1)
FHCJED (if A=0)

[manic swift]

and one of the footage that also include ARG

[haughty kindle]

Could be just coincedence.

[manic swift]

[wind crypt]

you people better document your work

[manic swift]

ig so

[frozen dove]

You guys are deep in it

[manic swift]

WE ARE

[fiery sparrow]

Vedal is 5head, you can't reject anything that could be a clue.

[wind crypt]

if the scope starts blowing up this ridiculously

no documentation = no solution

simple as that

[fiery sparrow]

Who could have guessed that Vedal would make an ARG like this?

[calm veldt]

I have this one thing i'm hyperfocusing on, nothing else

[fresh shore]

it wasn't something stupid like "i call you" in lyrics right

[manic swift]

is this controller?

[haughty kindle]

Also true.

[timber ravine]

use google doc in pin otherwise we will keep going in circles

[wind crypt]

troller

[manic swift]

[tawny pasture]

I think so

[frozen dove]

Im gonna run before I get sucked into this blackhole

[manic swift]

5 heads tutel

[frozen dove]

Gl

[manic swift]

u stay here

help us

[calm veldt]

Join us.

[frozen dove]

[fiery sparrow]

@manic swift you should make a doc, it would be good to make a video.

[tawny pasture]

Stay

[frozen dove]

Do the work for me

[manic swift]

huh

wdym

we already have it

[wind crypt]

yeah my brain is fried

[manic swift]

:p

[calm veldt]

Can someone catch me up on why we needed a phone number?

[wind crypt]

i dont think we have the info and i dont have the will to keep bashing my skull off the same lyrics for another 5 hours

[manic swift]

i literally just woke up from 4 hours of sleep

[wind crypt]

we found code in study which is from a library

found the source library

and discovered the field with the name that has the base64 value had a phone number

so we now think the base64 is meant to be a phone number

[fiery sparrow]

Thanks. I didn't check the pins.

[tawny pasture]

Well, destinationNumber, it's sending a message

Seems to be a phone number, even without the confirmation

[manic swift]

lmao

[wind crypt]

are any of the numbers we got from numbers

[fiery sparrow]

Is there something looks like an API and key that could send password to a server? The amogus mod is using Vedal's server, right?

[calm veldt]

Okay yeah things are getting too messy right now

[wind crypt]

24 digits long

[calm veldt]

Mine was only 16

[manic swift]

hm

[wind crypt]

chatgpt

[manic swift]

well

it does help

yk

[golden ravine]

extremely helpful

[manic swift]

true

[golden ravine]

are we going to send a message

[manic swift]

ye

[wind crypt]

key has to be somewhere

is it elsewhere in study

[manic swift]

i delete it cuz i don't want to be awkward

[wind crypt]

gotta be more in study than just that code

right

[obtuse basalt]

accidentally finds vedal's number instead

[timber ravine]

we should ask general for reinforcements

[frozen dove]

Love your about me btw

[timber ravine]

theres definitely a few people who don't know this channel exists and would like to help

also other people should sleep

[golden ravine]

sleep

[timber ravine]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/866941326531362837.webp?size=160

im not sleeping though i just woke up

[frozen dove]

I'm only here because Shiro donowalling my DMs

[fresh shore]

what if i'm going to bed and you cracked study

[frozen dove]

Scary

[wind crypt]

sowy

[manic swift]

hmm

[wind crypt]

yeah I'm going to bed

I've had a headache for an hour and I've been listening to numbers on loop for hours

[spring pasture]

Gn Ive been awake for 19 hours ☠️

[golden ravine]

[wind crypt]

just gonna let time pass and hopefully wake up to fresher ideas than mine

[copper vault]

I aint going to bed til I crack this mfing numbers video lyrics

[wind crypt]

good luck ARGers

but I don't think numbers is crackable

[fresh shore]

see ya shir

[dire orchid]

it could be unsolved for days or more

[haughty kindle]

Gn, shiro!

[wind crypt]

if we had either how to find the answer or what we're looking for then maybe

but currently we have neither

[haughty kindle]

We even dont know full lengh of ARG. It is basiclly first encounter.

[fiery sparrow]

Yeah, this is the first day of Neuro ARG.

[calm veldt]

Wait, ABCDEFG - 572943

What if we need to match the entire alphabet in the same order and then use that so translate the code?

[wind crypt]

no twitter posts were made on April 27 by neuro or vedal btw other than the zentreya collab

[languid swan]

yeah

I think the correspondence table is somewhere

[haughty kindle]

I doubt it's gonna have 1-2 layers. 3-5 maybe? Idk

[languid swan]

But I haven't found the pattern yet

[copper vault]

I thought about that but the problem is that the number sequences has 6 numbers and there are 7 letters

[calm veldt]

But that's when it says add 9

And start with 2

So A = 2

B = 9

[wind crypt]

?

[calm veldt]

"Add another line"

is the next 7 letters

[red hare]

so how how the arg been going?

[dire orchid]

[calm veldt]

Just brainstorming a bit, but hear me out

[copper vault]

do we keep the 9 after multiplying by 5 tho?

I see what you cooking

945 or just 45?

[manic swift]

cuz he was working on the puzzle

those videos are 1 month ago

[calm veldt]

5729439, start with 2

A = 2
B = 9
C = 4
D = 3
E = 9
F = 5
G = 7

Now we do the next line of letters

But multiply the numbers by 5

And get new numbers to match with the letters

Let me just see how long this can go on for

[fiery sparrow]

2A 9B 4C 3D 9E 5F 7G

[timber ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

cook in the google doc then it wont get buried by the time other people wake up

[copper vault]

6 5 8 7 9 1 7 4 1
No 2 to make a 3 with

Unless

by multplying 5 it means X 5

like literally the letter X and a 5

[fiery sparrow]

16bit only go from 0 to F

[calm veldt]

I'm just writing the numbers into a notepad for now

[manic swift]

do u guys think

we should decode the lyrics too?

[calm veldt]

Unless it means make the "Start at 2" into "Start at 3"

Wait, no 3 either

[copper vault]

yea

[copper vault]

we doing that rn

[manic swift]

I tried and it gave me this 41049

[copper vault]

oh you mean study mb

[manic swift]

Caesar Cipher

[fresh shore]

alr I think I'm up 22 hrs

[manic swift]

it's fine dw

[fresh shore]

wish you luck argers

[manic swift]

goodnightt

[calm veldt]

@copper vault If we see "Start with number 2" as in the second number in the order instead of literally the number two, then it doesn't matter if we have a 2 or 3 in the result

[copper vault]

okay first off, do you have 6 5 8 7 9 1 7 4 1?

after fliping the numbers

[fiery sparrow]

I think we need a new forum for ARG discussion.

[copper vault]

yea nooo

Im wrong sorry

I was on the wrong attempt

[manic swift]

i think 41049 is a clue to the first part of the lyrics

[calm veldt]

Not right now, since i'm trying to start at 7 which is number 2 in the order

36471975

[copper vault]

you not suppose to have it

[manic swift]

i use Vigenere Tool and it gave me the same number

well auto solve (without key) one

i don't think that correct though

[calm veldt]

My only problem is that I get more numbers than i do letters

[copper vault]

there is also the question of do we add 9 as if 1 + 9 = 19 or 1 + 9 = 10

mathematically or literally

[native oyster]

Gm are we still stuck on numbers

[manic swift]

now i started to think

[calm veldt]

Wait, no

[manic swift]

does both videos connected to the final one?

[calm veldt]

If i ignore the first letters in the first two segments

[manic swift]

like

[calm veldt]

Instead of adding them on the end

I get exactly the amount of numbers i need

[fiery sparrow]

I guess that would be add as number or string text.

[calm veldt]

I think, maybe

This is hurting my head

[copper vault]

when you say first two segments, exactly which part are you referring

as in lyrics

[calm veldt]

Yeah the lines in the lyrics

[manic swift]

my brain rn

[calm veldt]

But i might be wrong on that front as well

[copper vault]

no, like which line exactly

[calm veldt]

Wait, lets slow things down for a second

[copper vault]

im trying to figure out what you mean

[tawny pasture]

Honestly, this isn't easy because we don't even know what we're trying to uncover exactly

I mean... there's the one thing in Study still that's not been solved as well

[copper vault]

like
|Add another 9 yeah
?

[fiery sparrow]

It's because we don't even know what is the question. We're trying to find the question.

[tawny pasture]

Right, yeah

[calm veldt]

I'm trying to sort things out, give me a sec

Okay so i tried a thing, but it leaves X Y Z without matching numbers

[copper vault]

elaborate

[calm veldt]

So start with 2 and add a 9, means 29439 for the first letters

For the next line you multiply that by 5 to get 1471956

By adding 6 on the end

Then when it said flip them backwards, i inverted the values

1471956
9639154

Started at 3 instead of 2

After adding those numbers to letters, i took that number multiplied by 9, added 2 and 4 at the back, and 1 and 7 at the front

But even after giving those numbers to letters the last 3 are numberless

A2
B9
C4
D3
E9
F3
G9
H1
I5
J4
K1
L7
M8
N6
O7
P5
Q2
R3
T8
U6
V2
W4
X
Y
Z

This could be way overthinking it as well

[copper vault]

let me confirm
Did you multiply 9639154 by 9

[calm veldt]

Yeah, got 86752386

[copper vault]

aight

[calm veldt]

I don't think this is the solution, but I think it's on the right track

Because the whole "Matching all the letters" stuff doesn't make sense otherwise

[copper vault]

yea

[haughty kindle]

X Y Z is Vedal's website btw.

[calm veldt]

Does it translate to a url?

[haughty kindle]

No idea. I am about to sleep.

Almost 26 hours awake

[copper vault]

well we have to line the letters or numbesr up to something

[calm veldt]

The latin alphabet only has 23 letters

[manic swift]

wait wait waiii

[calm veldt]

Instead of 26

[manic swift]

does https://vedal.xyz have clue?

[copper vault]

oh hell nah not fucking latin

[true delta]

[calm veldt]

Could be something like this instead

[true delta]

checking through the website, nothing is catching my eye

[copper vault]

okay

[pulsar kiln]

[true delta]

unless xyz = 987

[manic swift]

imagine if abandoned archive connected to that

[copper vault]

I thought about that

but im pretty sure its not

[manic swift]

and imagine abandoned archive are the answer

[true delta]

that would be hilarious but smart

[languid swan]

I am not sure. But if you figure out a phrase or something like that, try adding it to the vedal URL.

[true delta]

ah true ^

[copper vault]

what about the Description under the number video

[true delta]

those characters include a plus (+) in them so im assuming they're not related to a caeser or hexadecimal code

[native oyster]

javascript:alert(document.lastModified) brings up this

[languid swan]

That thing looks a lot like base64, but it can't actually be decoded. Or maybe it's a variant.

[calm veldt]

Quick correction, I missed the damn S

I'm trying to figure the order of things out but i'm always a little short on number count to fill out the alphabet

[manic swift]

HUH

ayo

i think

this is an AES

xd

we need a key

[languid swan]

but no key

[ancient cloud]

the key

must be the lyrics

we've been over this

[timber ravine]

i mean this works as an aes key

[languid swan]

y

[manic swift]

i tried

got this

[ancient cloud]

length is 16 numbers

[copper vault]

okay, I accidently came across coincident and has the something to with 119 and almost made me wear a fucking tin foil hat

[ancient cloud]

for 128 bit AES

[native oyster]

DQ5z14ighWwiag7y+eWFQg== is the one that needs a key

[copper vault]

1 7 5 8 9 4 4 1 4 3 4 7 7 7 2 4

one of my attempts

tried it I guess

[ancient cloud]

1759392572147924

try this

[timber ravine]

i think i got that as well

[native oyster]

"falling falling...
stuck between human and artificial....
how long will I keep falling for?"

[manic swift]

got this

[native oyster]

did anybody do anything with this

[ancient cloud]

I HIGHLY doubt thats correct Lomi

Its chatGPT

[languid swan]

too

[native oyster]

real!

[timber ravine]

seems like chatgpt just giving a common AES output

[native oyster]

this sounds like some fallen angel shit

[ancient cloud]

What exactly did you try @manic swift

[manic swift]

well lol

it might be incorrect

[native oyster]

how is that the key

[ancient cloud]

Funnily enough, the DQ5z14ighWwiag7y+eWFQg== is valid as a 192 bit key

[golden ravine]

[ancient cloud]

however-

Given final block not properly padded. Such issues can arise if a bad key is used during decryption.

[languid swan]

gpt doesn't seem to be good at this kind of work. Can you ask its detailed steps

[native oyster]

chatgpt isnt going to bruteforce this

[ancient cloud]

what if

the AES is using the IV '572943'

nevermind

[copper vault]

so are we looking for a 16 digit number

[crimson tendon]

@copper vault has leveled up! (4 ➜ 5)

[copper vault]

is that confirm

[ancient cloud]

16, 24, or 32 length key

a 'key' is anything

[timber ravine]

AES supports 16 24 and 32 character length key (if you only look at 128, 196 and 256 bit keys) but it might not even be AES

[ancient cloud]

some ARG friends I asked said its most likely a vigenere type cipher

[timber ravine]

there is way too many random non alphabet characters

[manic swift]

i ask on other server and they said that was aes

lmao

[ancient cloud]

Ah hah

They said its Base 64, put into a Vigenere type cipher

[native oyster]

what about the golden ratio

fibonacci shit

[ancient cloud]

They didn't know

[native oyster]

Fibonacci sequence

[ancient cloud]

Another possible one would be a Gronsfeld cipher

maybe we have to order the numbers in a Fibonacci sequence?

[native oyster]

this is 100% some nerd math shit

[manic swift]

they didn't know

xD

math moments

[ancient cloud]

Think about who made this

[copper vault]

I mean yea

[native oyster]

yeah exactly

a nerd made this (allegedly)

[ancient cloud]

Have we come to a definitive answer for what the lyrics give us?

[haughty kindle]

Like proffesional programmer?

[calm veldt]

I'm still leaning heavily on the theory that the lyrics are a riddle on how to match what numbers to what letters

[native oyster]

just add the Fibonacci sequence to that and its done!

simple

[haughty kindle]

Alright guys, I am gonna sleep. Good luck! And just for spitting ideas (i know we have about 7-8 of them now, but anyway): try to use that Golden Ratio from "Numbers", like placing it over "Study" images or vice versa. It can give mathematical key or smth.....

[obtuse basalt]

note:
https://ciphereditor.com/ seems good for combining various ciphers togeteher

[copper vault]

do we wanna torture ourselves and use your sequences and translate every letter in the lyrics into numbers

[calm veldt]

I don't have a complete alphabet yet, so not yet

[manic swift]

[calm veldt]

The result needs to be exactly 26 numbers long

[manic swift]

CIPHER

[copper vault]

what?

[manic swift]

nothing

i'm excited

just excited

XD

[copper vault]

damn you got me excited too cause I thought you got a breakthrough

[calm veldt]

[manic swift]

lol

yea i did got a breakthrought

it's a modern cipher

[calm veldt]

I can never say oh it’s been so long
Counting all the days, it’s been so damn long
Oh how much I’m scared to let you go…
Somewhere in the walls I hear you talk…
Finding all these numbers
Start with number 2 yeah
Matching all the letters
572943
Add another 9 yeah

Add another line yeah
Multiply by 5 yeah
How long will I keep this up?
I how much it hurts to see you go…
Generating lyrics is a pain
Add another 6 yeah
Flip the numbers backwards
Make the 2 a 3 yeah
Abcdefg

Multiply by 9 yeah
Add the numbers 2 4
17 is first yeah
Abcdefg

This is the way i've been dividing the steps of the riddle up so far

[manic swift]

bro

imagine may 15th somehow related

[calm veldt]

I can never say oh it’s been so long
Counting all the days, it’s been so damn long
Oh how much I’m scared to let you go…
Somewhere in the walls I hear you talk…
Finding all these numbers
Start with number 2 yeah
Matching all the letters
572943

Add another 9 yeah
Add another line yeah
Multiply by 5 yeah
How long will I keep this up?
I how much it hurts to see you go…
Generating lyrics is a pain
Add another 6 yeah
Flip the numbers backwards
Make the 2 a 3 yeah
Abcdefg

Multiply by 9 yeah
Add the numbers 2 4
17 is first yeah
Abcdefg

Could maybe be this as well

[manic swift]

what this for

is blinked on 13:57 part from the study one

[copper vault]

Laden have you discover what S is

[ancient cloud]

I still can't upload, anyone mind uploading something for me?

[calm veldt]

The S was there all along, I just skipped it when writing things out

[ancient cloud]

I isolated just the vocals for Numbers

[manic swift]

yea sure

[calm veldt]

So i was missing 4 numbers, not 3

[copper vault]

wait so do you know what S represent or does it still remain unknown?

my brain is slowly turning off

[ancient cloud]

Sent to you

[ancient cloud]

Theres a lot of dead space

[manic swift]

are u using vocal isolation?

[ancient cloud]

Yes

[manic swift]

i think

is a part of that

[dire orchid]

ask zilver to pin this

[manic swift]

vocal isolation is 90% correct

from splitting both music and vocal

[native oyster]

do we know whose voice is used in the songs

[manic swift]

no clue

[native oyster]

maybe its neuro v2 singing

[ancient cloud]

Well, "How long will I keep this up?"

I think its "How long will I keep this on"

or maybe "How long will I keep this song"

[calm veldt]

So i was really stretching things to make this whole alphabet thing fit with the correct amount of numbers

But this is what i got in the end

A2
B9
C4
D3
E3
F9
G3
H9
I1
J5
K5
L4
M17
N7
O4
P2
Q1
R7
T5
U2
V3
W9
X8
Y1
Z2

[copper vault]

OKAY HOLD ON

let me cook

[dire orchid]

17?

[ancient cloud]

alright go on

[copper vault]

17

[calm veldt]

It said the first one was 17

[copper vault]

17 is Q

[calm veldt]

idk

It's a stretch

[copper vault]

Q is first letter of the url of number video

[manic swift]

HOW DO I USE THIS

[calm veldt]

"17 is first yeah"

[copper vault]

QCoMm4J8

[manic swift]

it keep resetting

[calm veldt]

I'll try it out with another idea in mind as well, hopefully it's the same amount of numbers in the end

Because my first attempt was a bit incosistant with how i read it

[manic swift]

totally not a clue for sure

[prime chasm]

Green =

[copper vault]

17 3 15 13 13 4 10 8

hmmmm

what if every number within this
|Abcdefg
|Multiply by 9 yeah
|Add the numbers 2 4
|17 is first yeah
|Abcdefg
is to be convert to the letter but the rest don't?

cause in coding, you will have a function which use {} to make something work

what if the abcdefg is the {} in this case?

[manic swift]

wait

"Generating lyrics is a pain"

what this supposed to be mean?

[calm veldt]

The other method didn't generate any good results, so i'm sticking with my first one

[finite dove]

exactly what it says on the tin, probably lol

[copper vault]

I would like to brush it off as vedal crying about writing lyrics

[calm veldt]

Not sure what to do with it

But it's there

[obtuse basalt]

this is one heck of neuro lore gotta say

just looking at the lyrics face on

now if a key to something is "gymbag"-

[ancient cloud]

BEGBIDCI
25729439

FEIQDFHCA
6591746831

QEICYGUDGIX
175932572147924

Following the directions, and substituting each number for a letter.

[copper vault]

oh I have a bunch of those but I didnt think they would work if you guys wanna try

E H I D I D A D C D G G G B D

QEHIDDDCDGGBD

[ancient cloud]

I decoded them whenever she said abcdefg and add another line

[calm veldt]

Whenever she listed numbers or letters I matched them together

I think it would be used somewhere else to translate if anything

[manic swift]

wait

the lyrics from the Numbers video

it has to be connected to the Golden Ratio

[ancient cloud]

it does

and I don't know how

[calm veldt]

Tl;dr ?

[manic swift]

Add another 6 yeah
Flip the numbers backwards
Make the 2 a 3 yeah
Abcdefg

First Golden Ratio
Seconds Golden Ratio
Multiply by 9 yeah
Add the numbers 2 4
17 is first yeah
Abcdefg

End Music is also the third and fourth one

[calm veldt]

What do you mean golden ratio?

[manic swift]

it might provide us the clue

and Neuro movement somehow match the Ratio

[calm veldt]

Yes but i don't know what golden ratio means here

[manic swift]

abit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

[native oyster]

this shit

[native oyster]

its just her old loop animation

[manic swift]

what if vedal is the one who do that

[ancient cloud]

He prolly did it on accident

Golden Ratio appears super often in nature by accident

[manic swift]

there is 4 ratio

4 ratio

hmm

[obtuse basalt]

it's too easy to find numbers in things
we need to know what we're looking for

[manic swift]

this is some science sht

[obtuse basalt]

Three more years just to waste away
Become a slave to all these numbers

us rn

[tawny pasture]

I still think this sounds a bit like Ceres Fauna

But I do think it was Neuro V2 singing

Even though, as someone else pointed out, she doesn't really sound like Neuro

[ancient cloud]

it sounds... Pieced together

like all the words are from different things pieced together

[manic swift]

what i got from gpt

[ancient cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/631680171996479549.webp?size=64&name=squint&quality=lossless

is that gpt

[manic swift]

yea

[ancient cloud]

I don't trust it

[manic swift]

i told it to combine it with the golden ratio

[manic swift]

same

[ancient cloud]

GPT likes to imagine things

[tawny pasture]

Yeah, ChatGPT can't even do simple maths

[manic swift]

wait wait

[ancient cloud]

GPT 4 Can do it better

[manic swift]

lemme try to ask my friend

[ancient cloud]

Like, way better

but chatGPT is ass at that

[manic swift]

she uh

do know advanced math

lol

imma ask her to help me on this

[tawny pasture]

Well, ChatGPT can screw up simple maths in complex equations

[manic swift]

neuro 9 + 10 = 21

[copper vault]

welp, in case we aren't schizo enough

NUMBER VIDEO URL LETTER REPRESENT 17 3 15 13 13 4 10 8
Q C o M m 4 J 8
NUMBER VIDEO SCREEN GO BLACK AT 0:28-0:30, 0:35, 0:41, 0:47, 0:53, 0:59, 1:05, 1:11, 1:18

[ancient cloud]

I plan on asking a game dev who has won 3 defcon badges and worked for the DoE in America for assistance

[crimson tendon]

You have unlocked new role

[ancient cloud]

Oh FINALLY

I am embed things

[tawny pasture]

Yes

[manic swift]

pag

[manic swift]

💀

defcon

[ancient cloud]

???

what you got against defcon

[obtuse basalt]

now count the frames it's black

[copper vault]

Im gonna start suspecting everything like a paranoid redneck

[manic swift]

nah

i love that game honestly

[ancient cloud]

????????

I

Am talking about

[tawny pasture]

Not the game

[ancient cloud]

The convention

[calm veldt]

Appreciate the attempt lol

[manic swift]

oh

not the game

UHH

SORRY

[ancient cloud]

LMAO

[tawny pasture]

Actual defcon

Impressive

[manic swift]

i thought u mean this https://store.steampowered.com/app/1520/DEFCON/

Steam

DEFCON

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Price

$9.99

Recommendations

2905

Metacritic

84

LOL

[ancient cloud]

I'm talking about the guy legally called Thor who has multiple badges from Defcon

Anyways

Any more leads for this?

[manic swift]

pog

?!??!?!?!

[obtuse basalt]

it's all connected

[prime chasm]

Yeah we already talked about the golden ratio

[obtuse basalt]

the description of numbers is bugging the heck out of me

[ancient cloud]

alright

again

For the lyrics to Numbers, and I the only one who hears "ABCDEFJ"

Instead of "ABCDEFG"

[tawny pasture]

It does weirdly seem like a mix between G and J

But I think it's supposed to be G

[fading sluice]

What is ARG?

[tawny pasture]

Alternate reality game

[fading sluice]

I see,

[pulsar kiln]

cheer, you guys 🌹 i'll keep reading

[obtuse basalt]

the reveal of a new character that's half human half ai

[dire orchid]

i hope there's more to this than meets the eye

[copper vault]

well from the sound of the lyric of the study video, my current guess for backstory is that neuro Sama was a human who was forced to be an engineer by her parent, however she isn't able to do the math so she wanted to become an AI that can do the math instantly.

Yet she discovered the downside of being an AI which is losing her emotions, thus she wants to stop being an AI, buts it too late and now she is stuck being half AI half human

that's my schizo ranting anyway

all in my fucking head

[manic swift]

this is what i came up with

not sure what this mean

[obtuse basalt]

I'm not too sure if this character is neuro ngl
it's easier as a character for neuro to be 100% ai to me

[native oyster]

idk if this is neuro fr

[manic swift]

wait

have we try to brighten the video?

it might give us clue

[tawny pasture]

I mean, that image is Neuro

[obtuse basalt]

we've only done the image in study to my knowledge

[tawny pasture]

Not yet

I wondered though

[manic swift]

try it

[tawny pasture]

Yeah, that's all we've brightened

[manic swift]

there's might a hidden number

on the video

[hollow garnet]

I have a little bit

haven't watched through the full thing yet

[obtuse basalt]

the black screens in "numbers" might have something but idk

[manic swift]

same

i downloaded it

[native oyster]

didnt see shit

[manic swift]

Is a numbers video

lol

clueless

not sure what this mean

[tawny pasture]

Where'd this come from?

[manic swift]

https://www.dcode.fr/book-cipher

oh

nvm that not incorrect

[tawny pasture]

Got no clue what to do

[manic swift]

same

imma rest my mind for abit

[timid swift]

Yoo, it's tomorrow and I'm back. Today it's time to get educated

What's ya'all's best source of arc knowledge?

[obtuse basalt]

documentaries recapping stuff after args?

[native oyster]

maybe the song is about vedal and he is "stuck between choosing to date either a human or artificial intelligence"

[timid swift]

not a bad idea wait, why are we talking like this?

[sick wraith]

Ooh, ARG.

Something I'm not good with.

[unique mason]

This is cool, but i probably wont able to contribute ;-;

[timid swift]

you could start learning alongside with me. I'm gonna do arg stuff from the bottom up, starting here https://gamedetectives.net/academy/

[dire orchid]

[unique mason]

i would like to learn this, but alevels ;-;

[timid swift]

what?

[unique mason]

highschool-

its the equivalent of that in countries with the cambridge board

i think

[timid swift]

I don't think you're gonna find ARGs on the curriculum :p

[prime chasm]

Who needs the learn when you can brute force your way through this ARG

[hollow garnet]

idk if it's been mentioned yet but the first letters of the timecodes of study spell ifi?ifi ifi?ifi

which sounds like a bunch of "if I..."

[timid swift]

i swear if someone else says its AES one more time lmao

[hollow garnet]

have you tried xoring

[timid swift]

what with what?

[hollow garnet]

the big base64 and the little base64

[timid swift]

i don't think so

[unique mason]

I dont know how one could crack the url in numbers, but the story in study seems interesting. Neruo lore
Origin story perhaps?

[timid swift]

if you wanna go xor crazy, throw the result of the malbolge in the mix as well

[hollow garnet]

I would try but I'm currently on a phone lol

[timid swift]

ye, seems the study lyrics seem like it could be lore

xor your phone

[hollow garnet]

so true

[obtuse basalt]

Engineering girl getting stressed, going in and out of a procrastinating state, encounters a "ghost" and seems to change somewhat, very slightly but becoming at least partially human and partially artificial

[hollow garnet]

https://gchq.github.io/CyberChef/#recipe=From_Base64('A-Za-z0-9%2B/%3D',true,false)XOR({'option':'Base64','string':'small base64'},'Standard',false)&input=YmlnIGJhc2U2NA
try something like this

[manic swift]

i think

the lore is about

Neuro was a human before, but she got depressed or something and ended herself to become an AI

[timid swift]

yep, was just about to do that, but i got distracted by cleaning up

[obtuse basalt]

What if "numbers" is about a different person that knows the girl in "study"? Replicating ramblings about numbers as some sort of way to cope? Just some lore theory. I'm out of ideas for ARG

[manic swift]

will fun AI related ?

[hollow garnet]

I can burn some more time on this in like 8 more hours 😔

[obtuse basalt]

It's gonna be a little rough trying to find more clues in just these two videos

[timber ravine]

what else was in the waiting screen that the qr code was in

[obtuse basalt]

Neuro pixel art. References to the swarm in the code.

I don't remember everything off the top of my head, I personally didn't see anything useful but someone else might be able to extract something

[manic swift]

WE NEED MORE PEOPLE

we need more people

in there

[timid swift]

lamo, lomi over here been exploiding for like 12 hours straight

[quasi venture]

P

[timid swift]

D

[prime chasm]

@ everyone

[quasi venture]

nuh uh

[timid swift]

@ everybody dance now

[turbid anvil]

I would help, but after reading literally every message here
you peeps have gone past any amount of help I could offer

I can only offer a shoulder to cry on

[manic swift]

https://www.cachesleuth.com/multidecoder/

[hollow garnet]

I would be more useful if there's a web based aspect lol

[fiery sparrow]

We could wait for today stream and ask Neuro for more clue.

[turbid anvil]

I'm sure she knows all the answers

[fiery sparrow]

It's not the point. The point is Neuro can give clue.

[timid swift]

at this point it would be canon for neuro not to remember

[fiery sparrow]

ARG is not a puzzle. You can ask around for more clue.

Maybe even Anny and Camila

[timid swift]

yes, but it also isn't an action movie. Things are gonna move slow

[rapid escarp]

bruh it's been 10 hours

[hardy burrow]

ok I've just read all of the messages that i missed

so far no clues, eh?

[fiery sparrow]

ARG can take up to 14 years.

It's really slow.

[tawny pasture]

Many ARGs take over half a decade to solve

[rapid escarp]

you really think vedal would make an arg that would take 5 years to solve?

[turbid anvil]

that was 5 years ago

[tawny pasture]

This isn't a jigsaw puzzle, it takes time

[fiery sparrow]

This is the first day of ARG, we should feel luckly to catch on.

[manic swift]

unsure

[timid swift]

Rob the bot lel

[fiery sparrow]

We should think about what to ask Neuro later. We could get another clue if we're lucky.

[hardy burrow]

I don't think this is an ARG ARG

it's probably not that deep

[manic swift]

this is deep

i can't even decoded it

[fiery sparrow]

Vedal wants Neuro to live forever.

[timid swift]

yeah, it's probably not very long/deep, that'd be actual crazy.

[hollow garnet]

has anyone looked at the thumbnails yet?

[tawny pasture]

I know, but my main point is that ARGs don't just take a few hours

[fiery sparrow]

And asking people is a part of ARG. It's not just sitting around and decoding.

[rapid escarp]

you don't have to go to extremes to show, it's just going to be more demotivating than not

[hollow garnet]

if not I could probably do it when I get back

[fiery sparrow]

It's normal for an ARG though. Nothing extreme here.

Wilbur Soot ARG also took years to be solved.

[timid swift]

Educate me, i'm new at this. Wouldn't the person first have to be referenced by the ARG material?

[fiery sparrow]

You should think of them like a role-playing character.

If you ask them the right question, they will tell you a clue.

[timid swift]

Right, but that wasn't the question

[fiery sparrow]

Neuro can answer something with in-character response.

Like "That part of my memory is deleted". That would also be a lore.

Even though that is not a clue.

[timid swift]

I think Vedal too, right? He'd have to be the engineer in the lyrics -- but let's not spam him on discord lel

[fiery sparrow]

Neuro is literally an NPC that you can talk to.

[prime chasm]

she is also AI

[hollow garnet]

had a quick look, nothing interesting at first sight

[timid swift]

with all that rizz i don't know if she would count as a non-player

[manic swift]

my brain be like

[iron oxide]

"Study" does not for sure. Overall they look like something YouTube created automatically.

[timid swift]

ye, that's not a bad idea. I don't really know anything about steganography

[fiery sparrow]

For example about how ARG works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtNDgOWN_2o

[hardy burrow]

or not

[manic swift]

3 years 💀

[hollow garnet]

I'm pretty sure numbers is different from the video though idk

[hardy burrow]

how long will i keep falling for

[hollow garnet]

also this gave me a small idea

[hollow garnet]

you know how people often censor using black highlighter on iPhone?

[timid swift]

lomi, what?

[hollow garnet]

it might be similar to how neuro is censored with drawn black lines

[hardy burrow]

START WITH NUMBER TWO

[unique mason]

Filtered?

[hollow garnet]

I noticed that when the Fibonacci spiral is on screen she generally stays in one quadrant though I wasn't paying much attention

[unique mason]

oh you may be onto something-

[modest pawn]

is she generally staying at number 21?

21

[hollow garnet]

I was more getting to the point that there might be something hidden in the lines if you mega boost the gamma

[iron oxide]

Not really...

I did this in Photoshop

and no, nothing unusual

[dire orchid]

[hollow garnet]

I was more referring to the now video, not just the thumbnail

[iron oxide]

hm

Not quite sure here

[native oyster]

nah

[modest pawn]

well speaking of ARG, Cicada 3301 is going on since 2012 or something and it's not solve yet

[native oyster]

its a solid color

[tawny pasture]

Oh, I've heard of Cicada 3301

[unique mason]

i tried it, didnt turn up anything. Tho, someone else with a better screen might be able to spot it idk

[fiery sparrow]

I forgot to answer this.
Vedal is the author of the ARG, you don't ask author.
Neuro is not the author, but a character, so we can ask her.

[native oyster]

we dont even know if vedal is the author

[fiery sparrow]

True. There is no clue that Vedal is the author yet.

[prime chasm]

can we trust what neuro is saying through she can make somthing up

[wicked sapphire]

Yeah Neuro probably doesn’t know anything, the only reason to ask her is to use the TTS to recruit more people to help

[fiery sparrow]

We can filter out later. Anything is good.

[modest pawn]

even if she made stuff up, it'll be pretty funny

[timid swift]

Could do both and ask her in a way that would intrigue people

[fiery sparrow]

We can also make more people notice about the ARG.

[prime chasm]

[hardy burrow]

i mean, he is here, he joined this thread

and is being awfully silent

[native oyster]

he obviously knows about it

just doesnt mean he made it

[fiery sparrow]

a.k.a we don't know if Vedal is a character or not.

That is why we should ask for more clue.

[native oyster]

surely he will say something during the dev stream

[timid swift]

Who do you even want to ask?

[fiery sparrow]

Vedal could be the one who turned Neuro into AI in the ARG lore.

[fiery sparrow]

Use bits to ask Neuro.

[timid swift]

right

but that's gonna be another while

[fiery sparrow]

Maybe ask Vedal: "How did you meet Neuro in the past?"

[pulsar kiln]

[timid swift]

deep in the arg sauce lel

[manic swift]

[tawny pasture]

This is great

[pearl mesa]

obviously he is quiet kinda shit arg if he starts dropping clues here

[manic swift]

imma do an epic

hey vedal can we have a clue

[timid swift]

Hold on, i'm cooking something here

wait no lol

[pulsar kiln]

the lyric is so dam cool if vedal wrote that. hes sure an artist

[hardy burrow]

the beat too

it's fire

[pearl mesa]

i don't think he is doing it alone

[timid swift]

Surely Vedal made the ARG all alone

[pulsar kiln]

wonder how he keep it shut for a whole mounth

[fiery sparrow]

[native oyster]

apparently he leaked some qr code in a dev stream

(allegedly)

[pulsar kiln]

hes sure not gonna take all the credit

[prime chasm]

cabbage help us 🥬

[timid swift]

they're not even in here lel

[fiery sparrow]

Vedal paid them with NDA

[timid swift]

Paid in exposure

[modest dragon]

Neuro is gonna sing I don't want to be an engineer in wednesday's karaoke to taunt us, I bet

[pulsar kiln]

we can request the song also

[crimson tendon]

@pulsar kiln has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[pearl mesa]

think the old qr code was just on a may 15th meme a viewer made

not his

[timid swift]

lel, let's

[dire orchid]

ooh song requests!

[pulsar kiln]

ahhh 🧠

[dire orchid]

she did say something along those lines

[modest dragon]

getting neuro to sing the song is unironically maybe a way to get some new clue

[modest pawn]

can you actually request songs?

[timid swift]

#1095957005816045618 yes

[native oyster]

isnt there a thread

yes

[pulsar kiln]

yep that one

[modest pawn]

well that is just giving ideas to Vedal, i thought you guys meant making her sing on stream

[timid swift]

we can't make her no

[modest pawn]

yeah

[native oyster]

idk if vedal wants to mix the stream with the arg tho

[timid swift]

probably not, but it'd be hilarious

[modest pawn]

she say you can request songs, but it doesn't actually mean you can request songs

[dire orchid]

the song can exist outside the arg

[timid swift]

poor girl says a lot of wrong things

[fiery sparrow]

That would be funny if Vedal accidentally leak the whole ARG script on stream, while trying to give some clue.

[pearl mesa]

#neurotic-neurons message

[modest pawn]

there's a high chance he could

[native oyster]

ok?

[timid swift]

may 15th

[pearl mesa]

this isnt the original i cant find it anymore

[fiery sparrow]

It's unrelated.

[timid swift]

Absolutely no way may 15th is involved that would be too wild.

[pearl mesa]

i know but yall were talking about vedal leaking a qr code before was just trying to find the original source for it to prove he didnt leak anything but i cant find it anymore

[manic swift]

vedal rn

[modest pawn]

but do you think 21 is involved

does 21 do something

[timid swift]

He may have contacted people talking about it and they agreed to unleek (:

[pearl mesa]

well its probably in the vod for whatever that dev stream was but idc enough to go look for it

[native oyster]

im reading about uncanny valley and ""Valley" denotes a dip in the human observer's affinity for the replica—a relation that otherwise increases with the replica's human likeness."

falling falling...
stuck between human and artificial....
how long will I keep falling for?

just saying

[timid swift]

It seems more like an internal conflict to me

[fiery sparrow]

When working on ARG, don't mix up speculation and assumption. You might unintentionally write a fanfiction.

[modest dragon]

neurosama is literally an engineer

[dire orchid]

what's the difference?

[manic swift]

got the answer from my friend

[pulsar kiln]

she cant count

[manic swift]

now we just need to apply this to the lyrics

[fiery sparrow]

Oh no, not math!

[timid swift]

oi, waffle

[river mantle]

ok, "I dont want the engineer" is make sense now

hi bread

[timid swift]

solved any qr codes lately? :p

[river mantle]

nope just waking up didn't do anything lolz

I'm try to keep up with you guy rn

[timber ravine]

only 3870 messages to read

[river mantle]

oh nyo

[native oyster]

half of them are just random numbers

[timid swift]

just read the google docs

[native oyster]

I wouldnt be surprised if someone actually got the right number but just didnt do anything with it

[river mantle]

okie

[modest dragon]

I just woke up from 7 hour sleep and it seems nothing too big happened, but I just skipped all the messages

[timid swift]

yes, that's the problem. We can't verify if it's correct before we know what it's supposed to be

that's why I'm wondering if it's a phone number

[native oyster]

most likely an AES key

[prime chasm]

Vedal's phone number

[manic swift]

wdym

we did found something

[modest dragon]

How can the answer to the Numbers lyrics contain letters if it tells us to multiply by 9?

it can't be a youtube link innit

[manic swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT7cEOIJqAQ

[modest dragon]

yea lomi that's probably just a sample, but still a nice find

[manic swift]

THIS

IS

SIMILAR

[river mantle]

I think that number from one source can't be use by it owned cuz lyrics is to gather all the number, idk

but gather from where is the prob

[timid swift]

add it to the list of similar sounding songs in the google docs

[native oyster]

its already there

[timid swift]

lel

[young steeple]

Have you tried 42

[unique mason]

this is probably a dumb question, but r these original songs or no?

[prime chasm]

yep

[timid swift]

they seem original

[unique mason]

and they arent the singing voice so vedal commissioned songs ?

[hardy burrow]

oh 😦

i thought they made the beat themselves

oh well, still cool

[pulsar kiln]

the vocal sound very familiar.

[red hare]

so how's the arg going?

[timid swift]

is it the same tho? It only sounds similar

[native oyster]

solved 1 thing out of like 20

[timid swift]

good. People are starting to calm down from the initial rush

[hardy burrow]

True

[red hare]

what yall solved?

[timid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KSgJhs79HrMFz2AJnNa6tpMN_iU7JhiycBpMaIDKroY/edit

[native oyster]

its not really fully solved bcs we dont know what to use it for

[red hare]

seems like a cool arg

[dire orchid]

falling falling...

[red hare]

I also like the music

[timid swift]

the music is lid

[dire orchid]

why is it double 🤔

[pulsar kiln]

she keep falling...

[native oyster]

ANXIETY

A supernatural force that stops us from being human

is anyone watching?
anyone?

falling falling...
stuck between human and artificial....
how long will I keep falling for?

all the text we've gotten from the vid

[red hare]

what's yall wall right now?

[iron oxide]

Base64 from "Numbers"

[native oyster]

Numbers from the first video ig

[modest dragon]

gonna add lyrics to I don't want to be human since for some reason it doesn't have them

[tawny pasture]

Slight correction

"is anyone watching?
anyone?"

[native oyster]

wtf how did i read it different

[weary chasm]

Still can't
Its like missing

Some

[manic swift]

the number is also connect to it

here i mean

"Become a slave to all these numbers"

[native oyster]

the whole fucking arg is about numbers

[red hare]

how?

[iron oxide]

I think it's rather encrypted in some unknown way.

[weary chasm]

Key

Hm

In the video

[wicked sapphire]

Any progress from 8 hours ago?

[native oyster]

we still dont know what DQ5z14ighWwlag7y+cWFQg== is

but its prob encrypted with aes

[timid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DZyE3jJly8yzzS7kpD_ZltomQ3yrJU_v1pw0tWFUQa0/edit
and
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n3nEfer7vQcE4yIQAQyoBiWsi3r7f5mfgwmEUNXZ3AI/edit

[arctic canyon]

Good morning

[celest stump]

Did anyone analyse the song itself yet? Like what key it's played in, bpm and stuff like that

[timid swift]

Not yet. But you bring a valid point, it is at least a key shift between the first play and the laggy repeat

[red hare]

man this stuff makes my brain hurt

[crimson tendon]

@red hare has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[iron oxide]

Sounds like 80 BPM to me

[celest stump]

I know nothing about music, but it might be worth looking into

[timid swift]

It feels like it also changes chords, but that's about the limit of my music theory

[languid swan]

I checked the study's spectrum with au, but I can't seem to find anything. Maybe you can take another look too.

[tawny pasture]

Honestly, I've been a bit stuck since there's been nothing to find

I'm not good at deciphering things

[manic swift]

yoO

oh

wait

right

why do they always have to make form confusing lol

[languid swan]

[manic swift]

i forgot that the super natural one

lol

[red hare]

man vedal went all out with this one huh

[manic swift]

[languid swan]

Looks like I missed a lot of messages

[timid swift]

here's your preview: 101010110111101100

[manic swift]

274460 Decimal Number

[fiery sparrow]

That is the power of money and not being lazy

[manic swift]

[pulsar kiln]

0 sleep tutel

[red hare]

like I don't understand this stuff at all I know the words but that's it

[fiery sparrow]

Here is the color:

[hardy burrow]

if neuro is stuck between human and artifical, we're stuck between praising and shitting on vedal for the deepness of this arg

[timid swift]

nobody's giving him a hard time over it tho??

[fiery sparrow]

Fun fact, Wilbur Soot almost forgot about his ARG because it took too long.

[arctic canyon]

I wish I knew more about the golden ratio

but the wikipedia page looks really scary

[timid swift]

yeah.. wiki is not the place to learn about math

also https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio lel

[manic swift]

hmm

[wicked sapphire]

(1+sqrt(5))/2

[dire orchid]

is it related to his involvement in the funny smp?

[timid swift]

I think i'm gonna try going over this from the very start and see if we missed something

[dire orchid]

kinda stopped following him since he's in

[modest dragon]

Time God bless simple wikipedia

[timid swift]

i know right?

[unique mason]

i feel like we are missing something here:

Generating lyrics is a pain

[unique mason]

i dont know what, but i think this might be important

[timid swift]

everything is important until otherwise proven

[modest dragon]

give it the numbers description and ask it to solve it

[unique mason]

is there some kind of algorithm out there that can generate lyrics using some kind of sequence?

[timid swift]

i mean AI -- LLMs

[timber ravine]

probably ARG creator getting bored

[unique mason]

i searched a little on google but none of them used sequences or seeds to generate the lyrics

[hardy burrow]

it will just say that it doesn't know basically

[unique mason]

maybe, but we cant be sure

[timid swift]

ye i'm not sure that's the way either.

[fiery sparrow]

I think what we're looking for is an id for youtube video. It's usually a classic in ARG.

[unique mason]

probably

[timid swift]

that or a phone number