#Neuro ARG
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I tried with 1 the first time, got about the same kind of results
what do you want to bet i thought of soemthing similar
my first thought was "add another line yeah" means literally draw a line, like make 5 to 6 by drawing a line, it make sense?
11 6 38
hmm
or in the context of the lyrics, 9->8?
Y'know maybe "17 is first yeah" is just telling us that the answer starts with 17, it doesn't tell us to add 17
well since vedal is a programmer, wouldn't it make more sense if he means by adding another line of text?
Like:
1
2
what if it means having two numbers tho? like separating them
im dum
Oh look, it's 2:30 am. Ya'll better have solved this when i wake up, gl 
yeah i don't like this idea myself
gn
im going to sleep too
this chat is better off without my incompetent ass anyways
wait wtf vedal is here
wrong, but go sleep
he's in the members list
I think we should make another chat and solve it there
pretend we have no clue what is going on here
wait for vedal to check chat and see that we are clueless
make him give us more evidence
(vedal we would never do this)
Vedal is probably laughing his ass off watching our schizo ramblings
yeah hes just lurking and laughing at us
no he joined the thread
man at least give us a hint or two
Vedal is in full meltdown mode trying to figure out who is generating and uploading these songs
give us another clue vedal!
"another"
well we havent gotten one from him yet
the fact that he used Malbolge
just from the videos

and then it's turns out among us mod contain some
what, waay too early for a clue

@wind crypt What are you cooking my man? 
idk this is my first arg
they usually take a while
he is cooking us some turtle soup rn 
expect to go to bed without answers
qr code lead to not a video but alt channel
and we havent decoded the massive hash in the description yet
So to be clear, are we trying to decode the video description using a key that we get from the lyrics?
If so, do we have a clue about how lonog the key should be?
Right now i'm trying to figure out what we are supposed to get from the numbers lyrics
usually 16 bits
@_@ What am i even doing... Does it even mean something?
5729943
V
572943
V
5729 *5> 28645 > 65174 > 65174 > FE96 *9> 18F3462 > 26162274
943 *5> 47156 > 54683 > 54683 > D59B *9> 7782734 > 125314868
I can never say oh it’s been so long
Counting all the days, it’s been so damn long
Oh how much I’m scared to let you go…
Somewhere in the walls I hear you talk…
Finding all these numbers
Start with number 2 yeah
Matching all the letters
572943
Add another 9 yeah
Add another line yeah
Multiply by 5 yeah
How long will I keep this up?
I how much it hurts to see you go…
Generating lyrics is a pain
Add another 6 yeah
Flip the numbers backwards
Make the 2 a 3 yeah
Abcdefg
Multiply by 9 yeah
Add the numbers 2 4
17 is first yeah
Abcdefg
I'm NOT going to bed until this arg is complete
a video whose ID starts with 17 and ends with 24 
you might literally die from lack of sleep
i mean we probably can't complete arg with more clues so we are going to reach a point where we will get stuck
Good luck everyone, see you tomorrow
the videos were posted so long ago there is so much random stuff that could refer to this
This arg will be very deep
the description is a broken base64 hash
it's not broken
why would you say broken?
probably "broken" via ROT
and it's not necessarily a hash
it can be code which doesn't need a key, but numbers in complete mess tho?
Hmmm
theres too many questions
we just need to collect every possible meaning for every line and then brute force it

we dont even know what to use it for 
what if we ignore some things like the line
Counting all the days, it’s been so damn long
Counting DAYS
I deadass might be going insane, but the "abcdefg" sounds more like "abcdefj"
by 5
5 lines
yeah and if its a new line
youre not multiplying anything
@wind crypt try "Add another nine, add another nine" instead of add another line
5 * /n ?
welp
- line means mathematical minus sign -
- line means literal dash like in a youtube url
- line means newline character \n
- line means an actual new line and the rest of the instructions are done there
- line just means song lyric and we should ignore this line
5 possibilities
I dunno, i interpreted is as basically creating two numbers out of one by breaking it with the new line...
multiple the NUMBER
It also could be nine instead of line
because I hear nine
Good to see that we've made no progress since I've had a shower
Not line
Not that I'm of any use
i hear line
im like almost certain its line
I'm the guy who discovers the hidden stuff, not the decoder
damn she rhymed nine with nine?
Nah, she said line
she could be saying NEIN
I hear abcdefj not abcdefg
It's different
this is also agonizing
I have no idea what line means, but she did say line
it sounds like 572944 to me
Like this "Ɛ"
flip the numbers backwards
you're not considering all possibilities
AGF-E8AFGDEGBCABD Does this mean anything possibly?
ok well no one is getting anywhere atm and i have other things to do
theres multiple numbers involved apparently
does she mean
12 34 56 -> 56 34 12
or
12 34 56 -> 21 43 65
inb4 we're gonna be discussing how to pronounce Gif :p
another super vague line
ngl it got me a little excited
When the lyrics say "abcdefg" i took that as literally replacing the numbers with their letter counterparts
alright shiro calm down

we're not the smartest people
or the numbers could flip so 9 becomes 6
im sure vedal didnt make it that hard
well
was it actually vedal that made this
who knows
that's what i thought
what if
i think vedal knows. Maybe.
this is just trolling
can i possibly hit something completely different beside usually AES enscryption straight doesn't give an answer?
vedal didnt make it
im sure
prove me wrong
he didnt do this
why would he do an ARG
huh
bored
you done?
yeah
lel
lets keep going
vedal give us more clues before we give up
Why would anyone make an ARG
It's just the same thing
ping vedal
I'm still curious about the description in the video
clues are for the impatient
who is being sacrificed
It's been less than a month
I already DM'd him awhile ago
We don't need a clue
you're the one here with the most chances
he said "no elp"
yea true another clue would probably make it harder
It's an ARG, it's no fun if we are given clues
very tutel answer
Red herring

ye, we gotta be patient and calm down to work on it
"Hey Vedal, please tell us how to solve it now, I'm getting impatient"
Kinda just spoils it
I'll try to help later, I've got some stuff to do.
ask neuro for clues instead
i mean another clue would just give us more things to look at which would mean more things to process
we lost our smartest man
175932572147924?
we need to find the letters to match
No sweat, you already contributed a lot :)
golden ratio
you'd think so
feels like that's guessing. We'd be better off trying to either isolate what's real, or try all variations
but our biggest problem is that we don't know what's supposed to come out of those numbers so we can't really check if it's right
Fibonacci
Let me just try my method but with addition instead 
isn't that also guessing?
shazam found an exact match for a sample during the ghost part tho i dont think its useful
So on the numbers. We have 3 info 'blocks'
- golden ratio
- lyrics
- description
I'd say that first two also can be a clue to somehow decrypt the third...
wdym
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBJPhBGvuY0 the staticy part is exactly the start of this
Provided to YouTube by Amuseio AB
Never The Same · not quite gone
Ballad Of You
℗ not quite gone
Released on: 2020-01-03
Writer: L Perez
Writer: Liam Bedford-Jones
Music Publisher: Copyright Control
Music Publisher: Copyright Control
Auto-generated by YouTube.
Okay, so the static meant nothing
BRO
It came with the sample
I'm gonna go to bed soon so may as well just start bruteforcing one of them while I sleep 
"tho i dont think its useful"
as in i dont think theres any clues in this song on itself
i would miss neuro i'm sorry part ngl
its a clue that means that the talking doesnt mean anything
but its clearly an exact sample of something used in study
fuck you vedal
im surprised it found the static i was just trying to see if it comes up with anything to the part that sounded like 100 gecs
yea
just before static
Oh, one more thing regarding the falling down clue. The language Malbolge is a reference to Dante's inferno. It's one of the circles of hell there. I don't know if that'll help or not but it was just something that I remembered.
and shazam seemingly catch the static instead
So, i'm just saying, youtube links do end in 11 letters, and my method leaves us with 12, but the x goes away automatically, which makes it 11, so maybe there is something to it
replaced all the "/" with spaces
``BvmSc+u5NXEjBP3z2gz57G3T8p0sc25U8Bv9yePOa3J6xGRhYcgUL6mnE2eMuFVvAHS5X1QWToqZtG13shERSSM928pZoOpWVQSR0eCZoJU+2FtB8Sd91pArvr5csHjsO2VjSwSgajrWbQLNuisad5cFvGYC
OLopisMBRHmUB+Dl
kqZleP7bF5WgpSxKRDKLjjqWlR95y9a
96vY3vc+gdKb
V4Sd8AIeyIryv53HKFRdB3IL7WOVSr8RSgFbb5Z3KTezpDdA9VvDIGf3pK5TBXpNdJs1g1pnV5C6QvVw7I
ZFhDFqoogGlsbBY0nSihzgvhzM86qgh6OqkYsKwrsdrvwuHTwz2MfzKRBPGGpKYwNmOpgf2dMgT+9GHGWfg
wLvynRqmzyhfyUSLR8tBFBDyOmwKF34Lz7PrVguu47RVawtcyZFRfHvW1rSVfPILi+1JXC5slE2PK84VdutLg4
NGOxC+s1wkYbBRC6ty970raEXKGMZeeLEsLrJhRmh1jtRltCI1zgpoxVhpgUZ
n832SKyClICQpLFKHG8yZ4wcMUA2yAN7b9sXh3nGQxkN9M8g1AuBZez5OsbgC5S9ypO8UMOrhr4f8pwVro15idoDYlg2nO72dpcWUkXBLcDq6h81Y7yaKN3IbrMEqdU9eTYwGCu824OitkxEMuCyQh9vB+rbu6svT9xyUqDLGllM4aF7v681y96CaQ+S2Gg9gmjAHfcR8AfIqGI+qrVZYj9ibcsO
bjPqK
Qni1Ti
4QuznYBQ67LZoU1mp1TOOgpN4LN9OQra65+CSpe
zC1+3JKEVPH4ml4SVoNzunUVoZccFTP86pfA2vwRtd8btPj3cyVRLKvcmj4qxgu1q74mjcgvYsrye4kCUE3MsjL6RYJI6vED+xWYvFhiJGo8+GqUci7Jge
iIaTlAnVtyxzIJjFgrtLyapd+
AM8QtZBYNDC+zKGu6haBhxTlOUyUiIA6SOVWVgiGzz887ieOoiUf8qopHJO9Mptrb16Nh1aPFE7XqDTCZUXn2MU
N7
OFMuRt0DO8
x1A0f9pXuo01uYjDBXQTCDp8Xu6YhvIMgFdC5mYpFJSTuUYSTILhKrm22P0q0kA0eB0O9Rvpi1H0MP2MpdwZ6eB7pDM75MpbC
KOSuv6wb9mhCj9PPCO32+AGltL6m7l+ciFAjrscn8Ych85d970dJc4OSys3LCfZ9OupDFhCqRUAVku
rUdRbup89e0Kf0bD0QSs3Ths5ueQOYxB2FRDA7Pp7IU2EcpM4c9xhGJnaPCE11nihfdEZk9N6T
tOUhREqRgm2kiU54NRZGvi9jCOlQjDYAwDoMMruBND5AHJ3gIHeHY4nYJ9UoR85ZKjHo6F3LsEwjF0=``
/ does not mean its a new line
why in the earth your code so big
God I hope not
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 without the /
can use it out of context np
But why?
why not
the EIGHT circle of hell 
Wheres your method?
more random numbers 
Or its image not text
have you tried it as a link?
2 [Start with 2] > 2572943 [Add the numbers] > 25729439 [Add 9] > 25729439- [Add a line] > 128647695- [Multiply by 5] > 128647695-6 [Add 6] > 6-596746821 [Switch the order] > 6-596746831 [Make the 2 a 3] > 45-5370721479 [Multiply by 9, but seperated by the line] > 45-537072147924 [Add 2 and 4] > 1745-537072147924 [Add 17 at the start]
because there's gonna be an infinite amount of wrong answers 😂
Yeah but it doesn't lead anywhere, but i might be missing something
Because it looks like a link
It gives Q45-537GU479X
Where do the letters come from?
Why would the dash be there
A numbers to letters decoder i ran it through

"Add a line"
Right
Add a line as a dash is a good one. Didn't think of that. And also it aligns with the code snippet wanting a phone number
i just notice the music drop after 11.57 but there is nothing, can you check this spot in audio decoder or something
maybe she means subtract
you cant just remove the 21 / 
not all the letters in a youtube video id is uppercase
Oh yeah, that part was stupid
just saying
Tried mixing it up, can't find the right one unfortunately
seems kinda arbitrary?
actually idk if it would be easy to find if that static originates from something else or if its original to this song
cus this guy aint got any views or subs so its a strange sample to pick if its from this
Nothing
Idk, i'm not a decoder, I'm just using what's available
Matching all the letters
can we gather all words where she stattered
we need to find out what this means
timestamp?
Yeah i feel like this is the key that i don't know how to handle
Unless it means "Start with" and "Match the numbers" as literally put them in order
your decoder is working by comparing the alphabet letter numbers?
ok now ive gone TOTALLY 
234579
I'll add an F to that yeah
Shiro's never gonna recover from this
53257380258936625113928028915257595996348533785393511567086622983474711528441697011832842793981559848152726817398249694768196298914671149651344862834174436687866887891617270810901865220000910267756993267885970439890003527724911962549534985630
like there are two "all" in "i'm not like other girls" and "fallen down", "fine" in "i don't want to be a human" (11.57), maybe somewhere else?
multiply by I
1234567
stop swearing smh
@wind crypt Do you have any idea what "Matching all the letters" mean?
Should we remove the static voice stuff, then? Since all of it was pointless
That's the only part i don't know what to make of
Gonna go to sleep now, good luck everyone
my running theories in order of sense are
1: it just means match to some kind of letter encoding scheme, eg.
A=1, B=2, C=3, ..., Z=26
When decoded, the Base64 string you provided translates to the following:
The decoded text appears to contain a PNG file header and some binary data. However, it's important to note that the provided Base64 string seems incomplete or corrupted, as it doesn't represent a valid PNG image.
2: it means match the numbers to characters from the string of text in the description
png header 
holy shit progress
WOAH
ok which part of the description is wrong
actually
are there any separators in the description that we can break it into blocks around
characters that seem like they dont belong and are repeated or something
the lyrics may give us the arrangement of said blocks
if we split it into blocks around each /
specially these
ila
i sent that a while ago
here
each line is a different block
/ is just a character in base64
it appears just about as frequently as any of the other characters in this text
Anyway this is chat gpt answear don't depend too much on answers from chatgpt, can generare misinfo
Could you elaborate on how you got there? It did not seem to have png magic bytes, or maybe i'm dumb
oh
oh
chatgpt 
Can you ask chat GPT to decypher the lyrics as well? 
ChatGPT can't do that
Seriously, I asked for fun as well and the answer was completely different and wrong
Yeah I was about to say this
"However, it's important to note"
LLMs are unfortunately still confidently wrong when challenged beyond their ability
About the lyrics why we try asking chatgpt?
Idk i'm just lost
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You know, looking over how people are slaving over numbers here and looking at the lyrics for "I don't want to be an engineer" is fun

It least we're not integrating and differentiating
True
and sad
Vedal give us clue 
No way
No clue
I wish i could join, but I cant figure out were to start.....
NO
im sus of 572943
just look at the doc we basically just started 
the rest of the description has clear instructions
check the pins! We got a youtube channel and a google drive full of our ramblings
What's so suspicious about 572953?
Okay, again
like the abcdefg
Should I remove the static voice stuff?
just cross it out
What about the sound files?
Unless.
cross it and provide link
Yeah, just strike it out but keep it
Okay, I see
Should I rename the static voice files then?
Maybe add (invalid) or something
move them to a folder maybe?
honestly, I could buy this
the solution is in the walls
i think there are no so many newcomers and we already knew it's false connection so why bother
"static stuff, may not be useful donno luueell.folder"
ADD ANOTHER LINE
ADD ANOTHER LINE
ADD ANOTHER LINE
ADD ANOTHER LINE
What is false connection?
static meaning
It feels strange to discard certain words that don't fit our agenda just because they might not have been intended. Like, with the production value of all of this they couldn't come up with a clue where all the words are relevant??

Yup
about the static if anyone knows how to find if it originates from some sample library would be useful i've no clue
cus if its from the song i linked its extremely random
it aint got no subs or views and i cant find anything about the artist anywehere
I think 572yarayara mean something and abc isn't
doesnt really matter because a song from 2020 had the same sample
I mean, fair
Might not have even noticed the words in the static and thought it was just good static
"Among them is Myrrha, who suffers from insanity after she seduced her father." 
Inb4 the whole numbers lyric thing is a red herring 
ok hold on im getting more and more schizo
Go rest!
for some reason it seems to me that add another line is somehow related to programming
before you reinvent sacred geometry or something
Add another line hmmm
but i dont know a damn thing about that
theres also bunch of cuts in the video
due to the first one, im confident "line" doesnt mean -
Ye, I noted that as well over at the google file
i mean one of the input numbers must be a 6
assuming it appears in calculation by then
by legs
so if you didn't get a 6 by then you're probably off the scent
also we must have a 2 by then as well
otherwise 2 lines later "make 2 a 3" doesnt make sense
I still think it's a 9 rather than line
cause if we add another line (which is beginning a new line of text)
what do we multiply by 5 with? or could it just be zero
unless "flip the numbers backwards" means mirror vertically, then 5 -> 2
they are checks to see if youre doing it correctly
two digit number to three digit number? 
where is the first line
Mirroring 5 doesn't give you 2 though
yes, it's may the 2 a 3, not make any 2s 3s. So there must be a 2

that's also an option
Tried that before, got almost the same result as i did with the -
hold on let him cook
I thought flip the numbers backwards was just reversing the numbers
Thats a possibility...
i just assume that line means
line
Is the answer 21?
hmm
So if we just follow the instructions...
Start with number 2
2
Add another 9
29
Add another line
2̶9
Multiply by 5
̶1̶4̶5̶
Add another 6
1̴51
Flip backwards
121
Make the 2 a 3
131
Multiply by 9
1179
Add the numbers 2 4
117924
17 is first?????
@wind crypt what im thinking is:
start with 2, transform only those 6 numbers to letters somehow, add a "-" and follow the rest normally
what if one line of lyrics is a hint what to do to corresponding number 
there are 21 / in the description so it must be 
and only invert the numbers, not letters
Does not mean add a new line?
then why is it "another line"

line can be -
but it says "another"
hm
wait then 1 doesnt make sense either
"another" is just for the rhythm imo
yeah
it will just be 9 then
its not
wait yeah
because the 572943 contains the first 9
maybe the last line "17 is first" means that if you already have 17 first it means its correct 
the "another" is lyric
well, i added yours anyway, 7
think of "add another line yeah" as being in the same vein as "Generating lyrics is a pain"
?
Oh
where its just a line inserted out of laziness
Maybe
to make the song complete
hmmm
"I can never say oh it’s been so long
Counting all the days, it’s been so damn long
Oh how much I’m scared to let you go…"
What's the amount of days between neuros first appearance and her new debut?
Heavy reaching here
If that's a number we can use
it doesn't seem that way
are we able to look at the google doc without getting doxxed
yes
159
okay
Just to make it rhyme or seem complete maybe
I looked
another idea
you wont get doxxed if you dont add anything to the actual drive
Okay so "Add another 9" would work here
what if we just do the math
private browser session if you're logged in
that makes a lot of sense actually
do we count the osu era or only the ai vtuber era?
But do we know exactly when did the osu era begin?
and multiply it
does editing the doc count as adding it in
yeah more and more i think 572943 is fake
no
yo guys, start with 2 and ignore the rest the answer is 2 
the very first stream? idk
I tried looking but no luck
so I went with the first Ai avatar debut
wouldn't it be the start in december?
99
So let's say it's been 159 days since her first model to her debut
Nevermind, doing this leaves us without a 2 after multiplying, so the next step can't be done
neuro first stream with vtuber is 20th of december
573
not 19th?
it says 19th for me
one of our clues is stuck between human and artificial
perhaps could it be 129 days instead of 159 days since the song came out exactly 30 days ago?
Any ideas what it means? I suppose it hints to 0.5 cause if human = 1 and articicial = 0 then it makes sense.
You have unlocked new role
We'll ask Neuro during her next stream
That's a good point. It's likely not a number relative to the debut, because that would mean the video would have to have knowledge of the future that even Vedal (allegedly) didn't have.
What do u need my help for
These lyrics seem to evoke emotions of longing, fear, pain, and frustration. However, certain parts contain numerical patterns and phrases that don't provide a clear context or meaning without additional information. The overall interpretation may depend on the artist's intention or further context surrounding the lyrics.
No shot we can feed GPT enough context
say that it's part of an arg and these lyrics MUST give some clue
you're just gonna force it to spout nonsense
hmmm
agfe/n*icdicgeieac*ibd
this is garbage...
n*icdic
true, there is a big possibility that vedal does not know if he is able to finish on time or not
if he can't, this whole thing get ruined
129 seem more of a logical choice
also it contains the input number 2 which was mention right after the counting all the days
But when you do it times 5 you lose the 2, and can't complete the next step
wasn't the debut on the 15th 
I think he means the "Start with number 2 yeah"
27-15 = 12
Mmh, that just feels off to me that it'd be relative to a video date. Donno though
its just telling me to think better 
I have no clue how to help
damn you, evil machines!
if i could think better we wouldn't be stuck here
head empty, no thoughts
"start with number 2 yeah"

susge
does that really mean start with 2
"number 2" sounds like its talking about something else
is there any ordered data we have
I mean, it says that 17 is first at the end though
||She means taking a shit||
Which implies that it would start with 17
which is the point,
the question is does vedal know if he is capble to complete all the prep for new debut stream before May 27?
does our femboy programmer knows if he will absolutely make the train run on time on May 27th
So will it be more logical to use the release date of video rather than the debut stream?
wow, go to the bathroom and solve the rest of the riddle as you ponder this shit
that might help
Hey vedal, an ARG for you.
How many hours till i get to your location?
Have fun!
maybe the numbers are coordinates
surely the time he "leaked" information was real 
it better be
did we solve the supernatural human thingie
cuz im going crazy
what even is that
From the previous streams he didn't seem sure about when it'd be. I don't get the sense that he'd gaslight about that.
the image
What about it?
vedal is just a chatbot, neuro planned all of this years ago
true
I suspect that it's going to be a phone number for the code section
yea that's why I brought up 129 which is how days it been since the Neuro first debut stream and the release date of the video we are trying to solve
You have unlocked new role
You have unlocked new role
You have unlocked new role
You have unlocked new role
why is is javascript 
ok maybe there's nothing about it
You have unlocked new role
eh, it's a fine language for ARGs. Every coder can read it
what if matching all the letters means we need to use .match
show me that weirdass code 
but yes, the thought crossed my mind, i just don't know what to do with it.. for now
Better than Malbolge.
lmao, yes. But to be fair we're not expected to edit that code
if we get a phone number somewhere i'm willing to bet we're supposed to use whatever that library does

i have a new schizo theory
what if the numbers pair up to certain characters or operations or something
consider:
one match:
another
acaabaiaa
gbaaaabbd
well i am trying this theory for some time already and i got some high quality gibberish in the end
like what if this means
clearly i am doing it wrong
the stupid new line ruins everything
So it is more and more programming riddle? We need to find out what instrument to use....
Personally I think the key to solving this is finding out what 572943 is supposed to be matched with
it cant be just the decremention cause after it there is no number, just the multiplication which give this -*5 gibberish
the one big thing we did solve was programming, yes. And there's another clue with programming in it.
wow people are talking about the ARG? At first I thought the QR code really is jebaited, even tho I swear I got a YouTube video at some point
I thought I randomly stumbled into a fan video by accident
1 7 5 9 3 4 7 9 6 2 4
Is the finally number I got after going through all the instruction
And matched with 572943
I am left with 1 7 9 6 4
I think went into a dead end
17 should be together thus representing Q or R
ok I'm gonna sleep now this is too much for my tiny little brain
depending on if A = 0 or 1
i would say 1, since we aren't talking about indexes
https://www.dcode.fr/letter-number-cipher This is the website I was using and it lets you try out different types of cyphers at once
Like all of these at once
let me also be clear
5 9 3 4 7 7 9 6 1 2 4 was the original number before I moved the 1 and 7 to the front
i asked my walls but they wont help me
let's talk about some confusing things in the numbers lyrics.
Like those strings
1) Counting all the days
2) Finding all these numbers
3) Matching all the letters
or those things...
4) Add another line yeah
5) Abcdefg
6) 17 is first yeah
Do we even need to think about days... What does abcdefg means?
If we need to match letters, what should we match? Alphabet? Weekdays? Some other letters?
17 is first means the end result should start with 17 or we should add it somehow?
basically what are the probabilities of even considering some of the ideas?
also mbe we don't even need to do anything with the lyrics and should use it to do something with the desc. of the video?
mbe they are just the clue, not the riddle itself
desc is a dead end if we dont know how its encoded
it obviously appears as base64 but decodes to junk
i think i saw a gh- knock-knock-knock
we cant try every encoding, file format or manipulation in existence
so unless we get more info, description goes nowhere
maybe, it's just hard to do anything when we don't even know what the description even is, other than looking like base64. This is probably where we've made the least headway
which is why we're all chewing on the lyrics 
what if at the first abcdefg, we convert the number to letters,
But rather multiplying by 9
it is X 9(i)?
add the number 2(B) 4(D) or perhaps 24(x)
17 in front which is Q?
what if we need to somehow modify the base64 text, to get the right version that decodes correctly?
we probably do
but we dont know how to modify it
and cant try every possibility
even brute force needs guide rails
do we know if vedal created this arg or just a fan, cuz the qr code that started this could just be from the artist without vedal knowing
so we're trying to find a hint of some kind, a key, a word, anything
what if the lyrics are the key to how? That's an absurd idea, but who knows
Plus files are given away by magic bytes at the start, and it doesn't appear to be any popular format
good chance they are, thats why we're trying to find something from them
nothing has stood out as an obvious answer yet though
Well mbe it's more straightforward... hmm
is there this 572943 in the base64...
schizo increasing
yea
what if the description isnt base64
@proud mulch has leveled up! (9 ➜ 10)
what if its an equation
wow
surely you will be able to solve this once you are as schizo as neuro
that will be cancer but worth a try
order of operations 

just convert the numbers and throw it in python
but thats the biggest question
how are these letters encoded
how does the // work
5729 (start with 2 add another 9 then new line)
943*5=3215 (multiple 5)
32615 (start with 2 add another 6)
51623 (flip)
??
// is integer division in many programming languages

yea but what happened to the 43
But make 2 a 3 what is this mean?
"the". There should be exactly one 2 to change
Okay, hang on
How would we add them together?
Are we converting them all into numbers?
we literally don't know dood
what i do know is that I'm probably gonna feel silly when we find out, "oh, it was obvious"
Concatenate? Idk.
@haughty kindle has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)
there is a funny part if you follow this
Start with number 2 yeah
Matching all the letters
572943
on the desc. code.
there is this part of it
2gz57G3T8 that starts from the first 2 in the text, and later there is 2 numbers from the 572943 - 57 And somehow i think that is the clue, but that is like 80% chance of just me being scizo already...
i can't start anything 
sorry, can anyone lead me to where we found 572943?
mbe i should go to sleep... i have dnd in 7 hours... i should get at least some sleep...
lyrics
numbers, 0:34
question.... is she saying 572943 or 572953 
4

it sounds almost like 5 tho...
But it is 4
i'm tired
We have checked

i need to rest, watching my new wallpaper engine desktop video
do sound like a 4
play the song on loop while you sleep
I slowed it down to 0.25x, it does sounds like 4
the numbers are just like amazon's captcha
Alright, ima gonna sleep... i am clearly not thinking straight already. So it's time to stop. Good luck guys.
Imma join the masses as well. I don't have a computer near me and it's far too late for me to do stuff. See y'all later.
night bit
Hopefully I'll be more help with the other clues once I have my stuff in front of me.
so wat are we working on solving rn, havent done an arg b4 and id like to help
we're all crying on numbers
seen a few matpat videos so i think i know wat to look for lol
see ya, bit, ty for participating!
we've had half successes on study
but theres a lot to digest in those 30 min
numbers is super hard because of a lot of ambiguities and no clear goal
it seems the lyric and code in the description are related
the description is garbage that is (probably?) base64 encoded
the lyrics offer nonsensical instructions
actually nonsense made by an ai that leads to nowhere 
true
the more i try to understand the lyrics and encoding
the more questions i come up with
with no answers
im just getting more possibilities to check instead of eliminating them
I guess we just have to brute force it with the possibilities?
i've tried to look for anything that aint code stuff but all i got was the sample match
brute force what
thats the issue
we dont know what we're trying to get
how would we know if we got the right answer
...I mean, if something works
only that we dont even know what we are supposed to get
I'd imagine that it would be more coherent if we got what we were trying to get
we dont know if this is supposed to give us text, a discord invite, a youtube link, a password, an image file, or literally anything else
Right, that is the issue...
This schizo stuff has made me stay up to 4:30am
mhm

if we knew what we were looking for we could start brute forcing
same
Hmmm
e.g. could go through every single manipulation of the base64 until the start decodes to a png header
but we dont know what the end goal is

might be like the first one, about anxiety or human
Or its just easter egg video
What we got from Numbers? What if the riddles in it and and in Study are interconnected? And by solving this combined puzzle we will get key to what to do with descrition stuff.....
im gonna try seeing the audio in adobe audition
numbers is totally brick walled
nobody has anything
study has had some progress from what i heard so
if you guys come up with anything helpful
please alert the numbers team
the account was made 2023-04-27T06:44:09.272846Z
clearly these are important numbers too
ImageGlass.Heart: Base-64 file content is invalid.
damnit
anyone have idea of it?
welp since the lyrics mentioned time, it might be helpful to once again remind that the number of days between Neuro first debut and the release of video we are cracking on is 129 days
and the number of days between first debut and new model debut is 159
i tried to find a morse code in the breathing to no avail
the screen is also blinking at times when the background is moving
3 bytes is 4 base64 chars
the desc base64 is 1388 chars long
so if it were ascii, it'd be 1041 chars long
that seems like a lot of text
so i actually wager it probably isnt text
or if it is, it's not ascii
this is 1.3kb which is just slightly larger than 1041 bytes so given the scale i kinda doubt its an image of some kind too:

Does matching the numbers mean matching them to something in the fake png link thingy?
Idk, my mind is slowly dying
it can mean anything
fuck, I hate the fact that I start cracking down the lyrics logic in the most dumb ways possible and it still lead me to something even though I know it damn well probably isn't related
it cant be that complicated, literally vedal did it
Do we know if Vedal is the one who did it?
I have you know me and my dnd group once took 5 hours to solve a simple puzzle that make up the sentence "in her palms"
we dont know what we're looking for dude
nothing referring to him directly
we're just hoping that we'll know it when we see it
just a guess
we might have already found the answer and not realized for all we know
the lack of knowledge is crippling
yeah i know and thats the problem
has anyone tried doing the lyrics reverse?
Inb4 the link i found is correct but the video isn't up anymore
i believe it's a polite way to say what you're totally wrong
fib?
fib
fib as key doesn't work
So, no one tried to ask Neuro about ARG while she was streaming? 
yea, well anything's worth a try when we don't even know where we going
tru
I think Neuro can response to every donation now is a huge clue.
I very much doubt it
She could reply to donations before as well
She's just unpredictable
still can't believe it's a false call
does fit into the theme of the song
second video study
this is a point
exactly line where 10.20 code reveals
it's all too good to be mislead

u think vedal will talk about this on dev stream?
doubt
I mean, Neuro could have fixed responses to ARG questions. Vedal can give Neuro a script for that.
i mean for immersion all you can do is post another video
Neuro is literally an NPC. 
asking or giving straight answers is big no-no
Maybe the missing clue is "asking Neuro"?
i mean what are we supposed to ask neuro
where is this key from?
exactly line where 10.20 code reveals
Where is the line "all my life I tried" from?
Maybe be just give Neuro the line?
I mean, just hit into 10.20 mark on Study video
It's like inputing a password for Neuro to get the next clue.
lomi was here when bit cracked that big ass code from study?
No clue
"Are you an AI?"
Some nonsense
In reference to the one thing we managed to decode
"Why you don't want to be an engineer?"
Pf-
considering how she auto applying nekomimi at word meow, arg can works as well
I tried and got sleeoy
I just don't believe it
I did just say "I think I saw a ghost" in the chat of last stream
No way anything was going to reach Neuro though without paying or points
Too many people that stream
You don't know about an ARG that was actually about tracking down real human to ask the question?
And they gave you the answer for the clue.
"Hey Neuro, are you human?"
btw a anyone has her debut song?
ah yes, let's track her, i think she a streamer on twitch with nickname vedal987
Rule of ARG, if you can ask someone or something, that is the clue. There is no walkthrough.
it will be fairly easy
her debut song says she's once human
A puzzle has clearly defined pieces and boundries you are supposed to use to solve it, an ARG does not
I hope this is not another decade ARG. 

The decoded message implies she's half AI, half human, stuck... "falling"
Exactly
This is not a puzzle, it's an ARG
Heh
So if we can ask Neuro something, we should
Neuro is going to give us the biggest red herring imaginable
That would be fun too.

She said that most of her stream
I mean, on the corpo logic. Donating to get any clue is just 
i dont think thats the point, but its worth a try
Just an example
Started on 2004, solved in 2020.

See you guy in another decade.
i mean we have a bit more clues than a photo and first name
Oops, sorry I typed the wrong year. It started on 2006, so 14 years.
Yeah, but still, we still have to try everything.

that code from numbers
numbers is deadlocked for now i think
is from a modern cipher one
without more external information we cant guide or verify our attempts
so it must be new
not old
maybe try this tools?
again
we could try them all
but how would we know if we get it right
either we assume we'll know it when we see it, or we have to get an idea of what we're seeking somehow
well
we should try everything we can
AES is also modern Cipher
I mean, they can't do much until much later in the late 10s. It took that long because they're just waiting for technology to get more advanced
"everything we can" is a LOT
if you really wanna try aes, we need a list of possible keys
Still waiting for Noita eyes secret to be resolved.. it can be another decade long ARG ;_;
Yeah, that is the whole goal of ARG, try everything. 

and then we'll have to try at least the most popular AES variants and modes of operation
AES-128-CBC to start
it might be AES
so we'll need an iv and key
what happened on the day that the channel was made
I only know Cicada 3301 and stuff, I can't contribute 
anyway, its 5am, i need to get some sleep
the videos were uploaded that day
no further information exists
wayback machine only has copies from today
hmm
Was anything happening with neuro's streams?
i think numbers is doomed until study team cooks a bit more
then maybe we can try some of their finds as keys or something
What's unsolved in Study...
Wait. Was there an attempt to use that golden ration with Study images?
due to it's position i believe you need some sort of phone number to crack it
Oh yes, that
When the numbers say 17 on the front, is that an area code for a phone number?
Oh, did I cut the first bit off?
but simply picking numbers from engineer not enough
body.messages[0].destinationNumber = 'DQ5z14ighWwiag7y+eWFQg==';
There's a better image on the document
Did someone try to interpret "add another X" as a making addition operation and not actually writing new numbers at the end?
On the other hand "add the numbers 2 4" doesn't contain word "another" so those could mean to be physically added at the end of number and not added by addition.
this is definitely a 5 is it not
it's not important bc we already know how it suppose to looks like
oh the destinationNumber is the correct length for AES 192 bit keysize (24 characters long)
I just wanted to make sure
Well, the message should say save me...
destinationNumber?
if you look on example it's suppose to be phone number
and i think if that's so, maybe the phone number (or combination of numbers Study provide to us) itself should be a key
random lines from songs doesn't works either

So... I guess we need to decode something

single block?
maybe if you want turn ABC and XQZ to numbers it can work
Bahamas?







