artist-alley

[mint root]

I'm doing simple shaded perspective heavy for abit to practice

[buoyant gorge]

good luck 🍀

[fair locust]

I was about to say that it could help to imagine a donut around the ankle inside the leg warmer but looks like that's pretty much where you ended up in the end

[mint root]

I did think it needed work but I didn't have an idea of what to do. thanks to windsketchy I could fix it.
the simple shading is a nice change of pace from my usual full render which leaves me exhausted every time. I'm gonna need to polish it more whilst practicing perspective

[faint valley]

Something with the right leg and the torso position feels off

[potent basalt]

I think it's because lower part of the leg like feet faces the almost the same direction as other feet... yet upper part of the leg is way more turned than other...

also neck position really depends what kind of art style you're going for, real humans neck attaches to back side of the head instead of about center

[rocky jay]

is proper perspective just about drawing circles on angled surfaces

[faint valley]

Been thinking that the bread could be a little more forward
I need to maybe screw around with magic poser a little to get the feet/heels and hands done right

[torpid girder]

yo is any one willing to drawing a thing???

[patent quarry]

Kinda but you'd have much better getting it right with boxes and squares

[rocky jay]

id have much better what

i dont get it

[torpid girder]

If intrested dm me

[potent basalt]

some use ball and pipe shapes... art is oddly interesting for having so many damn approaches XD

[patent quarry]

It's more accurate to gauge the perspective/proportions with using boxes then adding in the organic figured

[rocky jay]

box has six direction

sphere has all of them

draw circle intersecting sphere

boom you have now see where the sphere can point

[patent quarry]

[mint root]

that's why you use a box, so you dont have to second guess where all the planes of the object are. granted you know what landmarks to look for

[mint root]

not to mention you don't have proper lines that converge to a VP

[fair locust]

why is it so hard to make the fabric fabric without making the chest chest too much

[potent basalt]

you mean so it's not so pronounced due details of fabric? XD

I don't think it's an issue unless you consider it being too attention grabbing and you want people to focus to different area first

you could reduce contrast between light and dark so it's not so pronounced I suppose

[fair locust]

kind of, it's already a lot better here than it was at first, I accidentally made the fabric look way too thin and it was definitely not the look I'm going for

[potent basalt]

I suppose it give impression of thin fabric but I didn't even think about it.. it's true that less thin fabric is more rigid... you also draw with more realistic style than I do so of course it affects also way you want to present materials it to look good

[patent quarry]

Wouldn't thicker fabrics carry less details/wrap the body less

[fair locust]

Yeah, it has already been thickened but I think I'll make it even thicker at some point. Not too much though

[honest ridge]

Vedal as Gojo, Vojo

[unborn umbra]

-# Gedal

[honest ridge]

Godal

[candid edge]

little hair sketch

[fiery flint]

Is it just me or does drawing on paper rly is easier than on a wacom/ipad?

[brazen belfry]

idk if i can show all of it buttt. mik u

[jaunty quiver]

I think it has something to with the roughness of papers and pencil/pen, the grip it provides just helps me stabilize my line & strokes more, meanwhile you have tablets which are usually smooth and slidey~ its really hard to get used to them.

[slender oasis]

i think i heard that some tablet brands have a thing u can buy that make the tablet surface "rougher" like paper. not sure which ones though

on the other hand, tablet will become worn with use, which eventually provides a natural "roughness" of a sort c:

[fiery flint]

phewwww

after hours of searching, I finally found my old sketchbook lmao

[jaunty quiver]

rough tablets are a thing?

[worthy sluice]

Coloured a neur doodle to practice painting in kirta

[fair locust]

Mine is, but the roughness wears away over time (I have two small polished rectangles on it from playing osu) and it wears pen nibs more than a smooth one would

It's a screenless tablet though

[jaunty quiver]

sounds kind of expensive

[fair locust]

The tablet was like 50€ and I haven't had to buy new nibs yet, it had a couple of replacements with it, so not expensive at all compared to a lot of stuff that's out there

Rough screen tablets are probably a thing as well, I remember a friend of mine had an anti-glare thing on his phone screen and it had a rough texture so the technology definitely exists

[jaunty quiver]

50euro doesnt actually sound bad~ tho I'm more concerned about replacement nibs and stuff, I assume a lot of expense will come to that

[fair locust]

It's not much, over a long time it'll probably average to a lower amount of money than what I spend on mechanical pencil lead and erasers in the same time

At least as long as the sensitivity of the pen is relatively high so you don't need to use a lot of pressure when drawing

[fair locust]

Honestly the majority of my nib wear has come from playing osu and not from drawing

[jaunty quiver]

[rocky jay]

Nine Filters. Polarized Chat. Mosquito and Spam. Between Alcohol and Bed.
Drunk Technique Lapse: Neuro
Drunk Technique Reversal: Evil
Subathon Technique: Hollow (chat's) Wallet

[torpid girder]

yo qution is any one willing to draw few things for a project??

(i am jobless)

(for free)

[iron halo]

whats the project

[fair locust]

I just stumbled upon a fashion try-on haul live stream while scrolling youtube shorts and I might have to start using those for art practise, each video is several hours of maybe max 20 seconds per outfit in great lighting with different poses and angles

[torpid girder]

can i dm you that??

[iron halo]

you could just post it here

if someone finds it interesting theyre more likely to wanna do it

[torpid girder]

ok i am making like a fintune of a llm(something like chat gpt) and make it sound like a oc i made called niko and i want to like make it like digital art and i cant draw much digital art

(its for a ui part and stuff)

[iron halo]

[torpid girder]

[torpid girder]

if any one interested pls dm me(i cant pay but i will add your name in the project)

[jovial vine]

Neurotic Neurons chose to name this drawing Emoliv.

Wait, here's a closer cropped version. Drew this on break at work like all my Evil sticky note doodles.

[left shore]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExQPPMniKWuVaV6llulOSg0_c8gPYoE7Lg3-hsrt5G4/edit?usp=drivesdk

Guys I am working on a novel. This is a character from that novel,.
Care to take a look and give me feedback?

[frosty tree]

Ok, now I've finished for real 🙂‍↕️

[potent basalt]

looks good... I'm really into that kind of shading with my own art too... well very similar anyway

[iron halo]

the lion does not concern himself with the hairpin

[mint dagger]

Do you use a mechanical pencil ?

[potent basalt]

way some artists render their artworks inspires me to work on how I render... been focusing to that stuff mentally

in my newest artwork I plan to practice some shiny surfaces

[raven wedge]

https://x.com/thefatum0/status/2032882596430881234?s=20

TheFatum (@thefatum0)

Evil
#Heartheartart

X · Mar 14, 2026, 6:12 PM

[potent basalt]

well that's... art...

[rocky jay]

does anyone have any tips on picking a sound/instrument to stand in for a voice in a melody

preferably something that, like a voice, doesnt sound weird when you repeat notes several times

[plush torrent]

Use a talk box (I think that's what it's called) for guitar

[rocky jay]

AHA! I found the secret to good music

a little bit of plagiarism

if you cant get started, why not copy a bit here and there until you know what you're dealin with

this works especially well if you're copying from pop music cause thats what they do as well

nobody can say they own the VI v i chord progression

wait is this just how people make music

i may be stupid

[potent basalt]

yeah but don't call it plagiarism as it's not that

[iron halo]

sampling right?

[potent basalt]

that's probably the right term for it... plagiarism has no good connotations at all so better not go around calling it that

[rocky jay]

well i was basically recreating in 1:1 and changed like 2 things

also is it sampling if i dont actually sample the song but recreate it

i guess it cant even be plagiarism yet because presenting it as my own requires that i present it at all

but like i feel like so many people make such unique music and no one ever tells beginners to just stitch together different songs you like and change the parts to the extent that you feel comfortable with
but the more i think about it the more it makes sense for a beginner

i guess thats what ill do and see if it works

[potent basalt]

recreations are fine... if you're skilled to the point people have hard time to tell the difference by you making it from scratch for example... it's just advise to avoid certain words or music community will quickly misunderstand what you mean

[icy quail]

First time drawing a mantis and been a long while since I did irl drawing’ instead of digital (I draw this mantis by memory) how is it lol.

[rocky jay]

yeah i did mean it as a half joke

[rocky jay]

an exemplary art piece. It is static, yet tells a clear story without shoving it in your face

[icy quail]

I never seen a mantis in a while

I think I did good on the claw ends

[rocky jay]

a female praying mantis, and an absolutely CAKED UP presumably male decapitated praying mantis

exquisite presentation

[icy quail]

My goodness atomic😭🙏

That’s the BACK VIEW

same mantis

[rocky jay]

ah

well art is about interpretation

i say mine is fine as well

[iron halo]

im gonna do the thing where you skip lineart and do coloring immediately

[rocky jay]

im gonna do the thing where you skip lineart and coloring and just print out a finished art piece

[wide river]

that's a gyatt

[icy quail]

I don’t think that counts if it’s the artist saying it’s not that😭

[rocky jay]

i mean it does paint a clear story no?

[icy quail]

Everything can paint a clear story if you look hard enough

[rocky jay]

the large intake vents are necessary to power the afterburners

[faint valley]

Getting new cybernetics probably requires more intake or exhaust yeah

[rocky jay]

a miku

[candid edge]

i use whatever's available, mainly HB/B2 pencils

[candid edge]

oo ee oo

[jovial rune]

I want to print my work into an acrylic board.

Similar to the effect of goods

[brazen belfry]

bald

[rocky jay]

hmmm. Another miku

[patent quarry]

Biggest forehead known to man

[shut ridge]

Should I draw evil like this?

[shut ridge]

(Just finished for an art trade >3<)

[mint dagger]

Why are your drawings so clean but mine aren’t

[icy quail]

You forgot the chest

[frosty tree]

EXPERIMENTIME!!!

[jovial vine]

Seeing Herobrine hitting the crap out of Evil Neuro was not something I ever expected I'd see lol.

[frosty tree]

This peak? XD

[potent basalt]

I did some rendering practice as part of artwork I can't post here... oh and I also got some background practice... I like to draw stylized nature backgrounds and stuff

way I like to do background currently is drawing outline what something is supposed to be and then color it

[potent basalt]

classic... I missed a detail I was supposed to draw

[cedar musk]

rip

[potent basalt]

well I was able to update it... unlike how some sites work that don't allow edit or have like one hour edit limit

[cedar musk]

what r u drawing btw??

[potent basalt]

I drew mature only artwork

[pulsar lily]

Been trying to make a pixel art for Evil's birthday but it seems bad posture sitting at my computer has been damaging my shoulder and it's now sore and gets worse when using my computer mouse. I suspect this means I won't get to finish it in time

[dreamy basalt]

Bread

[warm spoke]

baguetteee

[spice torrent]

enriqueeee

[uncut tundra]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G-nqvG9bMAErPUT.gif

[urban summit]

Nothing but Codebugs

[potent shard]

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[bitter apex]

Why cant I share images? Isnt that what this channel is for?

[honest ridge]

You just need to chat in the server for like a while (I don't know how long) until you level up then you can post images here

[bitter apex]

Is AI art not allowed?

[honest ridge]

I am not sure but my gut feeling says no

[slender oasis]

according to the channel topic,

The basic rules for #1095941852068331560 still apply
in the #1095941852068331560 rules,
NO AI ART
is marked in bold and underlined and positioned near the top of the rules post, so i think it applies as a "basic rule".

therefore, your answer is yes, AI art is not allowed

c:

[bitter apex]

Do you see the irony in that?

[slender oasis]

indeed.

[honest ridge]

Its very iron

[mint dagger]

It’s getting worse. Skill issue

[lucid cliff]

Looks good so far, keep up the good work

[mint dagger]

I need to practice more, that’s for sure

[icy quail]

You just need reference

Take a look in the mirror and just mm….Put the shape idea on your brain matter and yes

[bitter apex]

IDK if this is true for everyone and I am not a great artist by any means but I think it helps to know the underlying anatomy if you want realistic proportions. Not like organs really but like skeletal structures and musculature and where things attach and bend.

Da Vinci would probably agree but IDK for sure.

[oblique badge]

Anime girl doesnt need realistic proportions

[icy quail]

Exactly ask Oda that

[bitter apex]

Yes and no...

[mint badge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0mHVlF5Q4M

[icy quail]

What

Why have you send this

[edgy axle]

i see

[icy quail]

I mean if you want the answer…..

[edgy axle]

ive already wacthed this

[edgy axle]

i alread know

dont worry about it

[mint badge]

I am a Type 3 artist

[icy quail]

Does that mean you type 3?

[mint badge]

3

[icy quail]

[wide river]

Comms wip

[mint dagger]

I struggle a lot with face proportions etc. My anatomy isn’t great , but faces are even worse.
(Original vs my version)

[patent quarry]

It's not that bad

[bitter apex]

Those look pretty good to me

[bitter apex]

It looks like you put the right forearm in front of the hip when it should be the hip in front of the arm but besides that it looks pretty good.

[mint dagger]

The smaller the scale of the drawing, the worse it becomes for some reason

[bitter apex]

The left hand is a little weird but I cant really be too critical of that. Hands are hard and I am not great at them but like was said before you can look at your own hand to use as reference.

[mint dagger]

I think the problem is in the thickness of the pencil, because I don’t use a mechanical pencil, but most likely it’s just a skill issue

[bitter apex]

Wait did you do both of those or just the one on the right?

[mint dagger]

The right one is mine

[bitter apex]

Oh I see. Okay yeah. I was looking at the wrong one. Your boob placement is a little off. You made them a bit smaller it looks like which isnt a bad thing but it kinda looks like one is bigger than the other. Most of it looks good though.

I have spent a lot of time studying boobs. LOL

[mint dagger]

It’s much easier for me to redraw something when the drawing is big. But when it comes to small sketches, it’s really hard to keep the proportions, sometimes it’s just ok, but most of the time it’s messed up

This shit is so ass

[faint valley]

What should I draw chat

[potent shard]

https://tenor.com/view/super-creek-umamusume-uma-musume-gif-7885454455165643210

[faint valley]

wdtmbt

[potent shard]

draw an uma

[honest ridge]

Huh

Oh

[mint badge]

POV: You just want to overwrite a certain pixel of an image in Blender's compositor nodes

[dry knot]

xD never through I would make this, defo not on my 2026 bingo card

[dry knot]

I will cry if this animation blows up lol

I will try to add more memes lmao

[jovial vine]

What I find so funny is it looks like something straight out of the early 2010s, like an old Minecraft animated music video, and yet somehow Evil Neuro is just there too lol. Something about that anachronism is just amusing and appealing to me lol.

[rocky jay]

to me it very clearly looks like a perspective issue.
makima's face is pointing at the viewer in the first drawing but her head is pointing down like in the reference
and in the second, the eyes are on a horizontal line rather than angled like in the reference
if this worries you, don't feel dumb! It is the thing i struggle with the most as well

[dry knot]

I mean everyone says my style iss 2010's xd

[rocky jay]

chat i just followed a short tutorial on a subject i havent really tried before and did it pretty well on the first try

(tutorial was pikat's "how to draw bodies" tutorial)

or at least the first part

i got the proportions way better than i thought i would

[buoyant gorge]

Drew evil gaining the power to draw.

[rocky jay]

looks like she found some glass shards and is about to draw

blood

[pulsar lily]

Regarding irony of no AI art in the AI vtuber's Discord:

Neuro's heart and soul lies in Vedal, the Swarm, and the Collab partners rather than herself, and image generation AI are quite infamous for unethical training practices.

Note that even Neuro doesn't use Generative AI to make images either, she has to think about what she wants to make and do her best to turn a concept into shapes she can draw

Well, I suppose she technically does use generative text AI to make code to generate the images

But still very different from generating the image directly.

[pulsar lily]

POV: Evil offers you Doritos

Very good art, certainly far above my own drawing capabilities. I don't know how people get so good at making things so dynamic, it looks so cool :)

[jovial vine]

To be fair, she does still have to have been fed a bunch of images of stuff from the internet to even know what the concepts she wants to draw even look like (since her drawings do usually vaguely look like the real stuff) so she too is being fed a bunch of data and then forming new images based off that.

[pulsar lily]

True

People do that too by referencing. A lot of stuff related to creations made by human vs Neuro vs non-Neuro AI is separated only by very thin lines

[cedar musk]

thanks for the chips was hungy

[jovial vine]

Honestly, I don't want to start too much of a huge debate, but I've been questioning the whole validity of "AIs being fed a bunch of data from the internet is unethical" argument recently and think it's kinda weak and its logic inconsistently applied. Because at least if it's public images on the internet being trained on...then that's public images, people have always been able to "right click save image as" and make edits or do whatever with images other people have publicly posted without the original poster's explicit permission, that's how memes and many other things have even existed.

It WAS the rule of the internet for ages that "if you post an image publicly on the internet, that's now a public image that anyone else can do stuff with, so be mindful what you post." So now calling that "stealing" and outright "unethical" in this single instance feels shakey to me.

I think focusing on that as a major argument is only going to be a weak point in the long run, and it's better to focus on the lack of effort and creative vision behind AI-generated stuff and also replacing jobs of actual artists than some shakey inconsistent standard of "ethics" and "stealing" public images and information.

Now training AIs on supposedly private data that's not publicly shared online without peoples' knowledge, because I've heard of that allegedly also happening, that's a different story. That part is easily unethical.

Idk, it's all a complicated gray topic that my thoughts are still continuing to develop on.

[oblique badge]

then you need to think more

[jovial vine]

Oh I definitely will continue to for a long time, though I've already thought about this for quite a while.

Again, like I said, my thoughts are still developing and will continue to do so.

[potent basalt]

who's asking? XD back in the day they called it art practice, right?

youtube is a rabbit hole when it comes to art related information

[oblique badge]

okay, here so thoughts for you:
you seriously comparing random dudes who "right click save image as" for memes and corporations who use billions of work to create a product that will compete with you in the market without any compensation

Also "public" is not equal to "free for commerce"

you're omitting the scope, the purpose of the use, and the lack of consent

[potent basalt]

moral, ethical and legal matters are also such a damn rabbit hole... like these services can argue they're legally fine... like youtube using videos as training data due their terms... but it's then separate matter from moral and ethical

essentially videos from like over decade ago are automatically opted-in before it was reasonable of uploader expect they would be used as training data... and then deleting those videos probably doesn't matter as it's actually just a flag on their side and the data is still stored

it's relevant to image generators due those frames can be also used to train that and AI generated video is just bunch of such frames so that they appear animated... but people tend to misunderstand how it works, thinking system copy-pastes parts of frames

[oblique badge]

its also not only about art, look at the ai gen videos of celebrities doing shit

[jovial vine]

Okay...I'm hesitant to continue replying because I'm sensing some strong tones of immediate hostility and am worried this could blow up into exactly the kind of massive debate I DON'T want to start, but I guess I'll give a some...clarifications, I guess one could say?

You say I'm ommitting the scope and the purpose of the use and are referencing corporations selling an AI-generated product to compete against artists when saying that. But that specific sense I didn't omit, I literally said that the replacing artists' jobs and stuff like those corporations want to do is bad and that being against that is a much stronger position people should put the most focus on. I'm not ommitting when corporations use AI-generated stuff for that purpose, that's a purpose I directly said I'm against.

In fact, the whole point of what I was saying was kinda that a lot of the claims about AI image training being "inherently unethical" themselves ignore the scope and purpose of the use. I was not questioning when people say "corporations trying to cut out artists' jobs and replace them with AI is bad and unethical," I flat out agreed with that statement. I was questioning what I see a lot more of, which is where people claim the mere existence of AI image generation itself and the act of feeding it public images from the internet is inherently unethical "theft" without any regards to who is using it in what way, in other words THEY ignore the scope and purpose a lot. Going to some random individual who generated an AI image and saying what they did is inherently unethical when they're just one person who's not even selling anything.

My point was that when really thinking about and applying standards consistently, saying that the tech itself and how it works is inherently unethical and that it's "stolen" is shaky, not that "big corporations using it in unethical ways by replacing peoples' jobs is ackshually not unethical. 🤓 "

I don't want this to escalate further so I'm done.

[oblique badge]

Yeah, you did agree in the end that you are against corporations replacing jobs, but the rest of your post was in different tone and defending principle "public data = can be taken". And this principle is exactly what corporations stand for

And your original post wasn't about defending "random individual" who generating images, but principle i mentioned above

[pulsar lily]

Most of the time people saving and editing others' images is frowned upon when a human does it too so..

[raven wedge]

https://x.com/thefatum0/status/2033237954471334277?s=20

TheFatum (@thefatum0)

Evil
#Heartheartart

X · Mar 15, 2026, 5:44 PM

[rocky jay]

my first full-body drawing
Thanks @quartz mortar for the reference character design

no we dont talk about the feet they didnt turn out very well and I dont care about them
im still calling this full body

[oblique badge]

hiding or just cropping feet and hands is usual practice

[rocky jay]

most artists seem to draw feet as either one big shape or disturbing detailed anyway

[oblique badge]

you did good!

[rocky jay]

im still surprised by how well the proportions turned out after following a simple tutorial

[oblique badge]

God bless free tutorials in the internet

Learning rn is much easier than in the past

[rocky jay]

also no the legs are not too short i just put the band of the skirta little too low so it looks like the hips are lower than they are

thats why there are two bands i drew another one a little higher to make it look less weird

tbf i didnt expect the skirt to be the only indicator of where the hips are

[warm spoke]

back in my days

[dull cove]

Hi chat! I have been here awhile but i never talk before ,so i decided to say hello( and i wonder why i cannot post my art, maybe i should chat more(⁠•⁠ ⁠▽⁠ ⁠•⁠;⁠)(sorry if my English is weird)

[patent quarry]

Chat more

[warm spoke]

you just need to chat more to get your embed perms !

[oblique badge]

Hi! Yes, you need to chat more to get embed perms, but you can post art in https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1095941852068331560 without them

[rocky jay]

Welcome!
you need to chat more to obtain embed permission, check your progress with t!rank in #bot-channel
but as reyforn mentioned you can post in #1095941852068331560 without them, just remember to use the right tags

[dull cove]

Ou okay! Thank you very much everyone (⁠⁠´⁠ω⁠｀⁠⁠)

[warm spoke]

[oblique badge]

new blood

[rocky jay]

?

[quartz mortar]

Mlem I was ping
Where ping?

[warm spoke]

OH WAIT

[rocky jay]

#artist-alley message

[quartz mortar]

Oh wait I can check notif

[dull cove]

I need to sleep now, is already 2am for me, good night!ヽ⁠(⁠ﾟ⁠ｰﾟ⁠⁠)⁠ﾉ

[warm spoke]

reyforn, you're the one who did the evil fire sticker and the neuro vibe sticker

[quartz mortar]

Cinema

[warm spoke]

they're so cool

[oblique badge]

i meant more as "victim" , i dont recognize this logo tbh

[warm spoke]

good night !

[oblique badge]

yee 😅 thank you

and this one too:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1447677664667111535/ezgif-32385209799d3f93.gif

[rocky jay]

new blood interactive is a game publisher
they have published games such as DUSK, ULTRAKILL, and FAITH

[oblique badge]

[warm spoke]

what software did you use ?

[oblique badge]

you aint gonna believe

photoshop

[warm spoke]

WHAT

i did not know you could animate with photoshop

[quartz mortar]

Ah the feet uhhhh
I uhh I cannot design shoes

[quartz mortar]

Like fr

[rocky jay]

WHAT NO WAY

[oblique badge]

Yes, its very primitive, but it works. EvilFire was my first ever animation and i didnt wanted to learn new software

and i kinda stick to it lol

[warm spoke]

it seems to work well so why not

[quartz mortar]

Sometimes primitive is all you need imo
You just need to be comfy withit

[warm spoke]

you learned by yourself ?

[oblique badge]

ye, this short animation took me 3 weeks to do 😅

[warm spoke]

(sorry if i ask too much questions, i don't get to speak to animators everyday )

[oblique badge]

nah, i dont mind, but i dont consider myself an animator although its probably what im most known for in community 😅

[patent quarry]

What's the total work time?

Does Photoshop record it

[oblique badge]

you cant check it in photoshop 🥀 but like, couple hours a day

today i ofc would to it much faster xd

[warm spoke]

i think you can consider yourself one, even if i don't find restraining one's art to a specific category (unless it is their job )

that's make it more easy to explain to people tho

[patent quarry]

I don't think it's that easy tho

Like make 1 good dish you can't call yourself a chef

Animating takes a different skill set

Overlap for sure

[potent basalt]

well drawn! lineart isn't so "blocky" anymore

[oblique badge]

i learn mostly by books and sometimes youtube but here i used this principle

[jovial vine]

Ugh, I'm in a pickle. I'm learning Flipnote Studio, and this is my first drawing, but the hair is causing me a dilemma. The first one on the left I feel looks better to me (besides maybe her left arm looking weird but that's not my focus), but her hair there technically doesn't make sense if considering it from a 3D perspective. Whereas the one on the right makes more actual sense but I kind feel looks worse...? I'm not sure what to pick.

[rocky jay]

yeah i was forced to do more shapes than just the face (still learning how i want to draw the cheek)

dammit i should have taken a photo of my sketch it was actually really good

[potent basalt]

seems that you've also opened up to having that kind of jaw in art... I think it was you who didn't really like to have "V" shaped jawline for characters... it does look good

[rocky jay]

i still dont like really sharp chins in front profiles

which means that if the jaw is kinda short i dont mind making it a V shape

the longer the jaw, the bigger i tend to make the flat part

[oblique badge]

it depends which haircut she have, is bangs the same on far side?

[potent basalt]

I agree... very pointy V shaped jaw looks terrible

so I avoid it too

[jovial vine]

No, the bangs aren't symmetrical. But everything else about the hair is, and I'm mainly talking about the long hair in the back.

[rocky jay]

also something ive noticed is that so much of head anatomy relative to the body is just neck position

saw someone show some old art and say it looked terrible but it looked really great the only problem was the neck position

[jovial vine]

The character is this for reference:

[oblique badge]

ohhh now i see

[rocky jay]

#general-network message
the reference design

[jovial vine]

Yeah, and my dilemma is that the first version kinda feels more pleasing, but the long hair doesn't actually make sense in 3D space because it has hair next to her left shoulder but behind her right, whereas the second version has the long hair all behind her shoulders but kinda doesn't look as nice to me I think?

[potent basalt]

one thing about being artist who posts stuff online is that some strangers will have terrible takes judging your art under guise of advise or being helpful... or they take their frustration out of your art by being incredibly unfair... so recognizing who you should engage with or dismiss is a skill to learn

and yeah many artists tear down their own art... being unfair to themselves

[oblique badge]

with this hair it would be more like this me think

[potent basalt]

frontal hair can rest on shoulders and then go front

just imagine gravity

[oblique badge]

yeah it can, but with this artstyle i thought it was different part of the hair tbh

[potent basalt]

hmm yeah I can see what you're getting at... it's very much on edges of head

[jovial vine]

Yeah, I got the intricacies of the front strands of hair off, mainly the result of going off memory AND getting too used to drawing Evil doodles lol. Your corrections do look like they'd alleviate the issue a fair bit, yeah, so thanks. But the long hair in the back is what's still kinda weird with this 3/4ths perspective, because it shouldn't be symmetically visible beside both arms at this angle (since the longest hair is always behind her shoulders), but looks worse if its not like in the second version.

[potent basalt]

you can imagine that character is moving and drawing just captures moment like a photo... so you just draw it look like character is in motion to give you more freedom with hair without it looking off

[oblique badge]

yeah you right, just add bit more back hair on close side to solve that, or reduce on far side

most part of it not visible

so that why i added around body a bit

[jovial vine]

Yeah, I did the latter (that's what the second version I posted is), but my dilemma is I feel that looks worse than the first version where it's symmetrical on both sides despite it making more physical sense. XD

[potent basalt]

just follow your intuition or something and pick either one... then just trust the process

I say that despite recently debating with myself if I want layer opacity to be 17, 20 or 22 percent

[oblique badge]

Was there that much difference?

although with some layer modes like color burn i guess every % can make visible difference

[potent basalt]

yeah it does... it's layer that in my latest artwork has gaussian blur in it for hard light layer... it affects how art looks quite a bit

[oblique badge]

its giving more anime look i think

[potent basalt]

art is on my deviantart page... I also use noise layer so art doesn't look so clean and gives it texture

I have been using that lately with my artworks... the trick makes art danger than initially drawn so that is also something to take account

[potent basalt]

definitely... I actually got interested of that trick after I saw youtube video about it

the video pointed out it's exactly the trick anime industry uses supposedly

noise plus gaussian blur lol... or something along those lines anyway

depending of way it's used you can make for example character glow in art

[warm spoke]

but you can say you cooked

[warm spoke]

interesting

[potent basalt]

staring art to mentally figure out how to replicate something lol

if there was gordon ramsay counterpart but for art... reality TV show would go so hard about competing to make art lol

one artist comes to mind but he would just be calm while brutally tearing each contestant apart with his words... not good reality TV lol

[wind pelican]

Ya'kno I don't remember ever seeing one for like drawing or painting specifically, but they used to do a lot of those for things like tattoos, makeup, styling clothing, even a cosplay one happened briefly I think. They tried a bunch of em, most never made it past a season, some never even finished their first season.

[potent basalt]

I think cosplay one would work if done right... but then again that could be said about most shows that end up be considered failures... I think part of it's what they expect from them like, manufacturing drama even if in set it wasn't so bad

[wind pelican]

Yeah, I think the cosplay one specifically had a lot of mismangement and issues behind it. I only know about it because of a random youtube video I only half watched and barely remember.

[jovial vine]

Alright, I made some tweaks and I think I have something better. Now I have a few more versions, but I think I like this one the most.

[oblique badge]

ye, looks good

[jovial vine]

Two more variations though just for some comparison:

I thnik the one on the left still makes a bit more physical sense at this angle with the hair in the back than the one I think I like most, but again idk I just don't like the look of reducing the long hair on the right side of the drawing that much, even though that's how it should realistically be.

[oblique badge]

ye the 1st one is best

[jovial vine]

Sweet, thanks for the input! Now to just fix her right eye a little and find out how to reposition that bow...then try figuring out how the heck I'm gonna animate this lol.

[oblique badge]

what animation would it be?

[jovial vine]

Something like her hair blowing back and forth in the wind (and the bow alongside it), and maybe blinking. It would go along to one of her songs that I already have a minute-long recording of in the project (the max music length Flipnote allows).

This song specifically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNsRh4CdX44

[oblique badge]

make like 4 or 6 frames looped hair animation and just copy loop for a minute

easiest way

or even less frames if wind not so strong

for blinking 3 frames is enough

closed - slightly open - full open

[jovial vine]

Yeah that's the plan. Though I think I recorded the music to go with a 12 fps animation, I would have to rerecord it or duplicate frames to lower it at this point. Will take longer to get right but hopefully will look nicer.

[jovial vine]

Lowkey this might be my favorite Kizuna AI song, I've listened to it during my work commute so many times, I just really love the vibe.

[ashen valley]

https://vxtwitter.com/nanokamitsuki/status/2033286504449966170

Nano☆ || PNGtuber debut on ??? (@nanokamitsuki)

Gartic animation Kaguya!
#超かぐや姫 #CosmicPrincessKaguya

vxTwitter / fixvx • GIF · Mar 15, 2026, 8:57 PM

ok so i woke up and decided to animate on gartic

am i going insane?

[jovial vine]

Also btw, I feel like we kind of got off on the wrong foot with that different discussion earlier. This interaction over my flipnote art has been much better.

[jovial vine]

Yes, you are going insane...ly creative lol.

That is legitimately really clever.

[ashen valley]

the animation itself is a parody from telepathy

but doing that on gartic is...pain

https://tenor.com/view/telepathy-hatsune-miku-deco-27-vocaloid-cheer-gif-9244728433033292598

this one is the ref

[oblique badge]

yeah, lets just move on from misunderstanding and keep discussing art in the future which is much more fun

[jovial vine]

Agreed.

[faint valley]

1h20m

[dreamy jolt]

🥀

[wide oar]

Phish

[dreamy jolt]

fih~

[dreamy basalt]

generational lockout but whatever

[azure nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1182378979886379068.webp?size=56&animated=true

[patent quarry]

i dont think thats the right answer for x

[mint root]

second perspective illustration, the pose is rather neutral because I was too busy messing with perspective. there's also a surprising amount of detail in this outfit

[dreamy basalt]

The graph can be drawn manually or using a CAS calculator.

[mint dagger]

How can I improve? I’d appreciate any advice, tutorials or exercises

[rocky jay]

I just try to replicate the heads of some reference

Using stuff like the Loomis method and drawing heads at ever imaginable angle

[mint dagger]

Today I tried to redraw it again after a month. It looks better, but still far from perfect

I realized that I can’t draw hair either

[dull cove]

I used to draw my hair in banana-shaped strands, I don't know how to describe it, but it looked awfulಥ⁠‿⁠ಥ (its much better now tho

[fair locust]

some progress, I added a background because the blank gray was messing with my eyes

wow I definitely need to completely redraw the head of the buffalo once I start rendering and shading it properly, it's all wonky

[fair locust]

Whoa why does the background look so much worse on my phone? It's really saturated and lacks detail in dark areas compared to how it looks on my laptop

[dull cove]

This happens to me often too, it seems unavoidable. My artwork displays completely different effects on different devices, so I can only try to find a device that doesn't have color distortion or something else

[fair locust]

now that I think about it I've had something similar happen before, I think it was another green background. The milk fanart with a big fire in the background I drew a little bit ago looked perfectly fine, so maybe my phone displays green in a strange way

it's a bit annoying to think that it's possible my art looks different to others than how I intended it to look

[patent quarry]

Does your laptop have HDR?

[queen arch]

Started sculpting this abomination

it's a pretty cool challenge

[fair locust]

it says in the settings that it supports HDR video but not HDR in games, apps and other stuff

[warm spoke]

i wish good luck

[queen arch]

I just realised it would be super cool to have a timelapse of the whole sculpt so I gotta start over

[warm spoke]

😭

can't you just start the timelapse now ?

[patent quarry]

That's weird, if your able to, turn it off

[fair locust]

it was off already

turning it on changed nothing as I'd expect based on what it said

[potent basalt]

makes sense... it probably takes quite bit of space to have all required data to then make a video out of it

[austere beacon]

Nice….

[potent basalt]

looking good!

[tardy viper]

just like her father

[potent basalt]

reminds me of drawing idea I was considering recently XD

[faint valley]

Need to throw my vtuber into another outfit...

[dreamy basalt]

Darkroom photography I did in class lol

[potent basalt]

nice color contrast

[candid edge]

texas arknights

[potent basalt]

https://x.com/Clord124/status/2033789153599459802

Clord | VTuber & Anime Fanart 😻💖 (@Clord124)

She's pouting? "Hmph!" Catgirl Evil Neuro WIP sketch drawing. #heartheartart #evilneuro #Neurosama #artmoots #Vtuber

X · Mar 17, 2026, 6:14 AM

[buoyant gorge]

I don’t really know what I was going for here but here’s miniko and the twins

[steady tulip]

Perspective goes hard

Another windy banger

[buoyant gorge]

thanks ramen. I only had two brain cells going into this and that was to draw perspective and make it look like it’d belong on an album cover.

[slender oasis]

holy w art

[vague pilot]

https://x.com/Snowmaru8_/status/2033836697675567584

[jovial vine]

I have now since polished up the eyes, face, and stuff, and fixed the hair bow (also made it seperable from the head). And I think this looks a lot cleaner! But now I'm not quite happy with the exact details/shape of her left eye (viewer's right) and am struggling to pick which version is best because I have issues with all three lol.

[night crypt]

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/89931/live-die-coagulate-arc-1-a-second-chance-in-this/chapter/3009863/chapter-7-the-afterparty-interrogation i consider writing art so here is a chapter from my story im making, enjoy if you read <3

[oblique badge]

hmm, looks fine to me, but if i had to choose, 3rd one would be more accurate shape

also far eye a bit higher than close one, maybe that bother you?

[restive parrot]

are there any good artists who draw good lines or line-weights or outlines?

[jovial vine]

Nah that was kinda intentional, it's one pixel higher (and slightly smaller). Putting them on the same level looked wrong to me at this perspective and the far eye looked lower than the close one even though it was just an illusion.

My main issue here is the roundness of the eye. In the 2nd and 3rd versions (which actually predate the first), the bottom inner corner of the far eye looks a bit too flat, like a perfect 45 degree straight line rather than a natural curve, especially compared to the close eye (which I have no issues with really), but then the first version, while fixing that issue and looking rounder, now looks kinda jagged and rough, and also makes the inner side look too thick like there's eyeliner there or something when there's not.

The third one is also just an alt of the second one where I tried shortening the eyelash line a bit to be more "accurate" but I'm not sure if it looks better or not. The previously described bottom corner is my biggest pet peeve with this.

[raven wedge]

https://x.com/thefatum0/status/2033951307912855921?s=20

TheFatum (@thefatum0)

Evil
#Heartheartart

X · Mar 17, 2026, 4:59 PM

[wide river]

Another D&D (and thirteenth) comms done! (I REACHED MY FAVORITE NUMBER!!!!)

[icy quail]

@rocky jay is a stinky

[rocky jay]

why

[icy quail]

Was a challenge 🙏

[rocky jay]

a challenge?

doesnt seem that difficult to do

look ill do it right now

@icy quail is a stinky

[icy quail]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-lizard-staring-blankly-at-the-camera-alien-stoic-lizard-alien-sitting-on-couch-gif-13272731743066365373

[rocky jay]

very easy

no challenge

[icy quail]

Damn I’m so good (not) at Drawing my friends (the face is so ungodly realistic it’s not even funny (just Ignore the body)

[grizzled kayak]

”callback ping” and “blood is fuel” clash
-# sketch

[potent basalt]

it causes some art backlog but I gotta sketch something XD

[grizzled kayak]

V1 v Cyn

[wide river]

doodles i made to pass the time before going back to comms

[edgy axle]

My Pokedex WIP

[exotic rain]

“I just want to go home…”

I forgot about this server.. haha..

[vague mesa]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356288907154554970/1483671370041655436/image.png?ex=69bb7023&is=69ba1ea3&hm=163d5ac2d51621837ed0dac1281d65e4e54ce8ec3bb7a8e72d485cd2d1dfbb29

can i not send image here

[mint root]

no embed perms, you need to chat more to get them

[potent basalt]

filling my personal drawing quota https://x.com/Clord124/status/2034162104773574687

Clord | VTuber & Anime Fanart 😻💖 (@Clord124)

Liking orca succubus cat Shylily brings good luck! She has lovingly made a cake for you! #ShylilyArt #artmoots #Vtuber #art #anime #render

X · Mar 18, 2026, 6:56 AM

[glacial star]

https://youtu.be/quXt9P3Duf4?si=IdEirbBADtuJecCx

[azure nebula]

did you make this?

[glacial star]

Ye

[azure nebula]

sounds good—just all the sounds are a bit muffled for some reason...

[vague mesa]

understood

[quartz mortar]

can someone help me map out the goggle shape im confused rn

[azure nebula]

I think it's like this?

if that helps

just above the central blue connector bit I think is hair and then the edge of the blue hat

the top edge of the strap then is hidden behind the goggles

it is really weird to have that strap continue just under the connector like that, where the nose should be

I would probably make it curve around in the nose area instead, clinging to the edge of the goggles...

the goggles both seem to be hexagons, though the one on our left more clearly has 6 sides compared to the right.

[tulip hamlet]

This is what I have so far for my design for the swarm beacon

[lyric imp]

[potent basalt]

hmm... "light the beacons! the swarm must answer the call!"

[quartz mortar]

i need help with perspective on the part circled in the reference image for the drawing
i cant get it right

[potent basalt]

hmm... I think it looks a bit odd in reference image itself so no wonder it puzzles you XD

clothing over the shoulder... sure it doesn't have to be skin tight but it feels like it defies gravity

[quartz mortar]

well ig that's enough drawing for today imma leave this here cuz i feel like it ig

[potent basalt]

it does look good, I can already imagine what more completed version could look like in various styles

[icy quail]

Got a bit of a artist block

I hate drawing bodies (yes I’m still not done with that one)

[icy quail]

A curtain. All I drew is a curtain. All I need is the other one and to upgrade the legs

Inverted version

The curtains on the inverted look sick

[potent basalt]

I have seen very similar style before but I have no idea if there is fancy term for this particular kind of art

in deltarune there are these weird pointy dancing things that you have to avoid

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pkVPti49XxA/maxresdefault.jpg

[rocky jay]

Atomic - Man in awe of large, perfectly balanced potato chip, 2026

[rocky jay]

I think this is one of your best works IMO
Your art style fits really well with the shading and texture of the armor

[wide river]

[wide river]

I thought of something else about this

[rocky jay]

Large bean?

[wide river]

sure, let's go with that

[rocky jay]

https://tenor.com/view/uuh-cat-funny-cats-uhh-gif-5575392758585270122

[rocky jay]

the music equivalent of the sketch looking better than the lineart is when your improvisation hits the chords just right but you just can't seem to play it again

[worthy sluice]

Stupid idiot

[fringe robin]

󠄀

[glacial star]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5VyLsILVeUQvsWz8msrxn0?si=87ntQbmfRZiAGX-VhveqZg

[thorn swallow]

wip
you know who

[quartz mortar]

Very little progress today cuz I want to eep

[potent basalt]

cool... if it works for you then... it works XD

[thorn swallow]

im too dizzy to shade this for now

maybe lateer

[potent basalt]

I have sketch open in photoshop, starting lineart soon-ish

this one https://x.com/Clord124/status/2033789153599459802

Clord | VTuber & Anime Fanart 😻💖 (@Clord124)

She's pouting? "Hmph!" Catgirl Evil Neuro WIP sketch drawing. #heartheartart #evilneuro #Neurosama #artmoots #Vtuber

X · Mar 17, 2026, 6:14 AM

[potent basalt]

hmm... kind of looks like cook

[thorn swallow]

it was supposed to be a maid outfit

[rocky jay]

@ivory saddle looks a bit bright but idk how much i can edit it and still have it look good
for now this is the best i can do without a proper neutral temperature lamp

[vivid topaz]

arm on belly (belly hidden) or arm somewhere else? (on a knee for example)

meow

[nova gate]

try holding leg or on knee

fire art btw

[potent basalt]

https://puu.sh/KKglE/0d8c1d9ff3.png

[faint valley]

https://fixvx.com/azu2yn/status/2034811835010908560

Azu ✨ Alien VTuber (@azu2yn)

When in doubt, do both
At the same time
No idea where I got the Anubis idea from tbh

QRT: azu2yn
tfw you get multiple doodle ideas and want to do all of them but can never decide which one to do

vxTwitter / fixvx · Mar 20, 2026, 1:58 AM

[potent basalt]

https://x.com/Clord124/status/2034844084477583481

Clord | VTuber & Anime Fanart 😻💖 (@Clord124)

Catgirl Evil Neuro artwork is shaping up! Next up is rendering and tuning. She attends Tutel Academy managed by Vedal. WIP sketch drawing. #heartheartart #evilneuro #Neurosama #artmoots #Vtuber

X · Mar 20, 2026, 4:06 AM

[frosty tree]

Doodles

[restive parrot]

thanks nvidia 😄

[frosty tree]

Hell yeah

[quartz mortar]

guhing

[frosty tree]

This peak hat or nah?

[azure nebula]

Peak

[faint valley]

Need an outfit that would go well with paw gloves…

[frosty tree]

Hair done

[tacit thunder]

Wanted to draw a warrior monk, accidentally made knockoff five pebbles

[dreamy jolt]

rain world mention!

[crisp portal]

[icy quail]

ReInked the legs and tail (I find the tail end Thing funny) and the curtains finally done

THIS DAMN TOP TORSO IS HALTING ME SO BADLY

I would started detailing and proofdrawing by now

[faint valley]

https://tenor.com/view/slugcats-rain-world-gif-9079378395460751090

[wide oar]

I lied

Wrong channel smh

[icy garden]

nearly finished
would have finished today was it not for the fact that I cant find my fucking blending stumps

[urban summit]

Nice.
You could use your thumb or rolled up tissue paper as an alternative.

[wide river]

yuri (sorry if it's not allowed)

[urban summit]

Also, forgot to mention in here, I had done the college final exam. It was such a tough one so I was away from the internet for a while.

[urban summit]

There's nothing wrong with gays (Unless the kiss drawing is too intense, I'm not sure)

[wide river]

HUZZAHHHHH

[icy garden]

I did use my thumb as much as I could but blending stumps are the most effective

[icy garden]

https://tenor.com/view/yuri-yuri-star-happy-star-anime-yuri-star-2-girls-gif-10586204627713373855

[urban summit]

Gotta use what you have, it's better than nothing 👍

[urban summit]

Also, woah, Deja vu.

[icy garden]

ehhh ill just get new ones they're like only a dollar

[rocky jay]

they should make a word for subconcious inspiration

cause i was 100% inspired by that
i just didnt know

[urban summit]

I don't blame you, cuz this art of a YouTube video thumbnail was memed everywhere.

[faint valley]

Now what outfit do I draw

[nova gate]

spent like a two hour stream just making ts

[urban summit]

Jester

[nova gate]

I agree

[urban summit]

Wanna see the wonder of colorful beings :o)

[faint valley]

Hmmm

[iron halo]

jupiter and its moons (i think)

[faint valley]

I’ll have to figure out what kind of jester outfit then… think maybe a strapless leotard type thing. Or something a little poofier…

[rocky jay]

yooo thats so sick

that has to be jupiter and the galilean moons ive seen them myself looked exactly like that

how did you take the photo?

[iron halo]

i confirmed its jupiter by checking a night sky map

its just a long exposure on a 270mm lens

i wasnt expecting to be able to get the moons too though

i got this too while i was there

this is a composite of 3 pics

[icy garden]

hi yes thats me

[oblique badge]

maybe the real evil outfit contest winners were the friends we made along the way

[urban summit]

wait

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I should make TADC fanart when I wake up.

Good maeN AA

[quartz mortar]

Progress
(I'm dreading on the Goggles part)

[azure nebula]

[void bobcat]

new sona of mine yay

[brazen belfry]

doodle dump of doom

[azure nebula]

Super cool

[quiet relic]

keychain idea i had

with my own oc

[jovial vine]

Been continuing to update and improve my Flipnote Studio DSi art! Open to any feedback and suggestions as it's still not finished and perfect yet.

[oblique badge]

seems good to me

you could add collarbones

[mint root]

queenpb fanart. I'm very lost on how to design this. so I'm going off of vibes

[grizzled kayak]

caine v v1
“Fulfilment of purpose.”

[jovial vine]

Maybe, she is wearing a sweater-like shirt though under that denim overalls top.

[oblique badge]

ohh, my bad, right, there is texture
for some reason i didnt noticed that its shirt

in that case it wouldnt be visible, so nevermind

[jovial vine]

Lol, that would certainly be an...interesting...outfit if that was all just bare skin and not a shirt.

[brazen belfry]

locked in

[jovial vine]

Man the difference is night and day lol, wild to think that these are the same drawing.

[patent quarry]

Give me strength to lock in : ) life is winning 😭

[brazen belfry]

have u tried changing ur brush cuz its working too well for me

[patent quarry]

I can't touch brush at all, I got responsibilities 😢

[frosty tree]

Beauty in Pink

[exotic python]

I was working on these sketches again, now they finally have hair

[sick gyro]

r

[azure nebula]

Looking great so far
Neuro looks so cute

[nova gate]

I would practice anatomy but like

[slender oasis]

mhm?

[slender oasis]

?

i think you shouldn't feel obligated to practice anatomy if you've already found a style that works for u

[slender oasis]

like this is great

but it's up to u in the end

i can tell you it's for sure a good learning experience

in a lot of ways

[nova gate]

I feel like it'd help me more with proportions if I understand it better but it kinda feels weird. my style is full of round characters but I wanna try more styles so I can do more with my art

[slender oasis]

mhm :3

you totally should if you think it will open more doors

[nova gate]

I think I will practice it eventually

maybe soon

I'm really bad at proportions and angles so I should work on that too

but not in my art style

[urban summit]

Simple draft but man, that insomnia takes a toll on me. I have very little energy today

[quartz mortar]

mlemington

[quartz mortar]

colour

[azure nebula]

just watch out for the values of the hat and glove being too close to the background

[rocky jay]

i think this could be fixed with a little bit of texture or shading to any of the two

i think adding texture to the background would make it look like the character is in a place
and adding shading or texture to the hat and glove will make the background look like just a color

[glass grail]

how much exactly I have to chat to earn my rights as a penguin to post art

[rocky jay]

you can always post in #1095941852068331560 just make sure to follow the rules there
but otherwise just keep chatting and check ur rank with t!rank in #bot-channel

[oblique badge]

you get embed perms at 1k points you get 10-20 points every message sent within 2 mins intervals

[glass grail]

I am thankful for your 2 words I will keep that in my mind (⎚-⎚)

[brazen rain]

🤓 ☝️ uhm, hi again, I'm the noob that was uhhh raided by the swarm

is this where the neuro sama fanart goes

or more specifically.. fanart for the... birthday

[oblique badge]

hii, in this channel we are discussing art in general, all fanarts goes here: https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1095941852068331560

[dreamy jolt]

Art 🥀

[quartz mortar]

It's just a temporary background because the hair and clothes are white I'll probably change it later

[icy quail]

I am still Working on this

The image is supposed to be “dancing Woman hiding her pain” if you see she is digging her claw into herself. And it’s away from the crowd

It represents hiding pain basically while showing yourself as happy or doing well as the dancing woman is doing

The levels of my art are so weird

Level 1: actual real life drawings
So very questionable and yet so derailed in some ways (minutes)

Level 2: drawing digital without reference drawing
Takes a while (months) if I am held back by a issue (frickin torsos)

Level 3: drawing digital WITH reference drawing.
Actual pretty “good” (to my knowledge at least) and Quick to do (maybe a month)

Also

This is another drawing I got is called “tormented girl smiling for her mother”

Idk if I posted this here before so I’m just gonna do it “again” (I got memory loss)

[willow cradle]

https://x.com/junibark/status/2035390721541259603?s=46

i just finished this

juni 🐾🪴 (@junibark)

this sketch was old and waiting to be finished 🍵🎀

#art #oc

X · Mar 21, 2026, 4:18 PM

[quartz mortar]

Some shading ig, idk I'm tired

[frank basin]

https://x.com/re11kin/status/2035421073659789637

[faint valley]

Still didn’t figure out what to do about jester fit yet… bwaa

[rocky jay]

@modest onyx as usual i kinda messed up the occlusion shading and had to make it more dramatic, and i forgot the checker/polka dot pattern on the scarf but here it is
unedited vs edited

[modest onyx]

epic

[rocky jay]

i also kinda didnt know how to make the hat until after finishing lineart so thats why it looks weird

also its made to be cropped more, the full is just so you can choose which area to crop into in ccase you want to use it for something

[potent basalt]

been playing resident evil 4 remake lately and got my next artwork idea

[severe lintel]

Why can I only ever be motivated and lock in for the most random art things and not the things I actually wanna do </3 😭🙏

[slender oasis]

it be that way 😔

[severe lintel]

I think I was possessed cuz idek how I did that and I have no clue how I am gonna finish it-

[brazen belfry]

tet

[rocky jay]

man whose grandma is this

[scenic adder]

fatass

[mint root]

I read that as fat. I'm tired it seems

[slender oasis]

birdbrain

[fair locust]

I figured it's time to finally figure out how to shade digitally same way I do with pencils and I think I was pretty successful in that

[fair locust]

I added two color layers to it, one under the shading and one as an overlay to the shading to have the shading in different colors in different areas because pure black felt too dead

[rocky jay]

today's art page

3 rows, left to right:
karen in the toji fushiguro fit | grandma gojo
@modest onyx | random lady with gun | @spiral ruin staring down at you like the worthless being you are
kanji reminder | random gal chilling | girl being blinded by harsh light (didnt finish)

[wide oar]

holy crap lois

[azure nebula]

Nano is judging me...

[wide river]

2016 artflow art

[spiral ruin]

Is this some sort of form of propaganda implying that I look down on people

Like how it looks but damn that's crazy

That guy is really looking down

[rocky jay]

No kona told me to draw you staring into the abyss of boundless knowledge with a look of fear and slightly cosmic comprehension on your face
Then I accidentally made the pupils too big, and, you know, permanent marker.

[iron halo]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-agnes-spin-digital-agnes-digital-gif-2249758468902631040

i love horses

[worthy sluice]

This kind of colouring is kinda growing on me

It's really fun too

Also experimenting with the less chaotic version

I'll see which one I prefer

[worthy sluice]

Actually I kinda like it how it looks with the first style

I think I'll do that then

[spiral ruin]

Interesting

[spiral ruin]

Nice

[quartz mortar]

This random line is pissing me off

[potent basalt]

I recently had a big mystery line in my art due I somehow managed to draw it without noticing

[potent basalt]

it might be just a rare bug though... sometimes wacom can interact weirdly with photoshop

[slender oasis]

my pen tablet has weird moments where the position jumps from one point to another point and back really fast, creates a straight line

it's usually just little blips, and it rarely occurs

but one time it froze krita. by the time it unfroze, krita was using 23gb of memory

up from like 600MB

it created a line from where my pen actually was, diagonally upward and left and off the canvas. i can only imagine how far that line must have traveled

[grizzled kayak]

v1 v invincible
“Blue and deadly.”

[dreamy jolt]

finally finish my art!

[potent basalt]

speculation but there is probably some kind of code in the program that detects memory being full... potentially a failsafe to avoid program crashing

[jovial vine]

I'm never satisfied and keep making changes lol. Hopefully this is close to the final version now though and I can start learning to animate this thing lol.

[slender oasis]

you're probably right, but that's besides the point. i have to wonder just how far that stroke traveled to bring the memory up that high

[slender oasis]

good luck!!

[jovial vine]

Thanks!

[potent basalt]

it was probably insanely long... I have no idea how layers are actually saved to memory... but what I know drawing programs like photoshop use tons of hard drive space and memory while drawing

[slender oasis]

mhm

well

the thing had a few layers already...maybe between 18 and 23 layers? and that added up to only around 600mb

[warm spoke]

love the lighting !

[slender oasis]

i'd say it traveled at least 10k pixels, but i wouldn't say 20k is too far-fetched either

[potent basalt]

undo functionality can take tons on photoshop at least depending of how big canvas you work it... I tend to draw for 4K resolution so undo functionality hogs quite a bit while drawing

but then memory of course is seperate aka RAM... used more to just store layers to memory so program can quickly handle them

ah it helps to actually google about this... first photoshop uses RAM and then when it hits the limit it starts to use scratch disk... history states that undo functionality relies can take tons of space due it takes full resolution snap shots... no wonder XD

[jovial vine]

Man, it's gonna feel weird going back to regular drawing on actual paper with a regular utensil after spending this long drawing with a Nintendo 3DS stylus on a small very pixelated touch screen lol.

[potent basalt]

20K monitors... let's go! XD

[potent basalt]

something something about perfectionism being enemy of good? I dunno, sounds like a good learning experience but yeah... it can also just lead to indecision and something that would take few hours to draw take weeks while looking almost same

[slender oasis]

this is something i am trying to learn to let go of
perfectionism making doing art so difficult

[jovial vine]

Very true, although that slow picky perfectionism DID bring me from having this:

To this:

So maybe in this case it was worth it lol.

[quartz mortar]

Hewwo artist alley

Imo perfectionist behavior is bad because generally it just sucks the fun out of drawing

[quartz mortar]

To me at least

[jovial vine]

True, that can happen. Though in my case here wouldn't you agree that the latter version is much better than the former?

[quartz mortar]

It is better, and as long as you have fun it doesn't really matter if you want to be a perfectionist or not

[dreamy jolt]

thank youuuu

[jovial vine]

Yeah that's very good! I am curious what's going on with her left hand, looks like she's got a T-virus infection from RE or something lol. Or is that just supposed to be shading/shadow?

[dreamy jolt]

It reference to the ending of Z.A.T.O and she is once of the main cast of it, it is a really interesting read and last about 7hrs

[jovial vine]

I see.

[dreamy jolt]

Minor spoiler but I don't think people will understand it without context

[jovial vine]

Got it.

[warm spoke]

is it an anime ?

[dreamy jolt]

It a visual novel, really good despite being a free game on steam

[warm spoke]

i'll add it to my list

[dreamy jolt]

Mhm it really good and why I keep forgetting to type word when I chat 😭

[torpid girder]

This was for school stuff

[haughty fjord]

I'm working on neuros pins for a cosplay

[novel bolt]

Woahh

🐢

[haughty fjord]

Hehe. It's my first multi color print and I'm super happy with how it turned out. I'll adjust line size and some other details before it's ready

[novel bolt]

That's cool bro

Idk how to show my art tbh

😭

[haughty fjord]

It usually involves taking a picture and posting it xD

[novel bolt]

Hmmm....

But I can't click the + 😭

Ahh nvm

[lapis ferry]

Try opening a folder on the side and draging the file here directly. that works for me

[pulsar lily]

What does it take to get image perms?

[potent basalt]

by posting enough often for example... posting in general network counts... there is some cooldown between messages I think but it earns you exp or something that unlocks it automatically once you got enough

[pulsar lily]

Well that's unfortunate because I don't usually break up my messages into lots of individual lines like most people do on Discord and I came here specifically to share little doodles and pixel arts.

[potent basalt]

I think you can post images to #1095941852068331560 though without embed perms

[willow cradle]

https://x.com/i/status/2035851536002129945

juni 🐾🪴 (@junibark)

lil lass 🩷💚
#art #oc

X · Mar 22, 2026, 10:50 PM

[iron halo]

really wanted to do this kinda cool shading again

[novel bolt]

Ahhh I see

[novel bolt]

Hmmm ok I think I'll try to upload often

[quiet relic]

smol drawing i wanted to finish

[urban summit]

(-._.-)

wha

[frosty tree]

More doodles

[runic idol]

Panko wearing a panty on her head, so cute😭😭😭, must give hugs and headpats

[long rune]

https://fixupx.com/alexsania2010/status/2035693472410116602?s=20

wooshi ‼️ (@alexsania2010)

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FixupX · Mar 22, 2026, 12:21 PM

i have.. um sand

very delicious

[urban summit]

Sandwich

[long rune]

[uncut tundra]

A textbox for my [Y]our False Reality project.

It's got a ton of Neuro-related posters, can you identify them all? (genuinely curious because I need to gauge the readability of the advertisements and posters)

[urban summit]

Hmmm

Boom, Never, ?, ?(maybe just neuro), Evil Fumo, Nostyx art(I think)

Above/behind the train:
Vedals (canvas), Neuro car, Filian, Life, Cookie(I think), ?, Cerberwan, Neuro and Evil picnic(I think)

[urban summit]

[wide river]

damn how's the future bro?

we fucked?

[urban summit]

Yes

[wide river]

very good

[urban summit]

Not gonna lie, I kinda regret this decision.

[frosty tree]

ZAMN

[wide river]

woops

[tulip hamlet]

Getting close to finals

[lapis ferry]

Good luck

[novel bolt]

🐧

[potent basalt]

seven hours is all I need for adorable evil artwork (no idea if it actually took seven hours of active drawing though) https://x.com/Clord124/status/2035967837500531174

Clord | VTuber & Anime Fanart 😻💖 (@Clord124)

Catgirl Evil Neuro is wearing an outfit inspired by Resident Evil 4 Remake's casual Ashley getup. She's using lantern to find her way around. There are some rocks or something that sparkle around her. #heartheartart #evilneuro #Neurosama #artmoots #Vtuber

X · Mar 23, 2026, 6:32 AM

[vivid bronze]

everything here is

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[iron halo]

there wouldnt happen to be someone with a vgen code here

civilian service pay is not great and i miss having money

[potent basalt]

oof... is this jury duty or something... or what?

[iron halo]

nah finland has mandatory military service and the alternative is civilian service

[oblique badge]

vgen twitter give away them like ones a week or something

[opaque nebula]

I can't seem to share something here do I need to level up?

[oblique badge]

Yeah, you need to chat

[iron halo]

im actually quite enjoying the service itself but the pay is just enough to survive

[opaque nebula]

Oki

[quartz mortar]

You need 1k exp and you get 10-20xp per chat with 2 min cool down

[opaque nebula]

[iron halo]

[quartz mortar]

Me when I love my job but the pay is shit

[iron halo]

the minimum wage job i had before paid much better

[quartz mortar]

You can use #1095941852068331560 in the meantime tho

[opaque nebula]

Alrighty

[quartz mortar]

Am I missing something? Isn't pay below minimum wage illegal?

[iron halo]

well civilian service isnt a job

its mandatory

[quartz mortar]

Guh
I see

Kinda scummy imo but fair nuff

[iron halo]

i get like all my bills paid by the service place and then money for food and other stuff

and the pay will actually go up towards the end of the service but i dont have much money for myself

[quartz mortar]

That's actually decently fair cuz rent is like major obstacle of living with min wage

In my experience at least

Still kinda sucks no having money for your self tho

[iron halo]

the minimum wage is pretty okay here and the cost of living is lower so i was actually doing pretty well for myself even on that

[potent basalt]

they make you pay for your own food there? you would think military would pay for all necessities

[iron halo]

well they do

[quartz mortar]

Not really the military tho

[iron halo]

the food money is based on how many meals the service place can provide me

so if they cant feed me themselves they gotta pay me more

[opaque nebula]

You get paid more during shifts?

[iron halo]

im not sure what you mean

[potent basalt]

so it's like... they eventually compensate more but for now they drip feed you money... or something like that?

[iron halo]

okay so i get 2 kinds of pay aside from just bills and such, i get a daily allowance and food money, the daily allowance is just a fixed amount i get for every day of service, and thats the one that goes up over time and the food money depends on if the service place can provide me with meals on any given day

so for example if they cant provide me with meals on one day i get more food money for that day

this is the artist chat though we should probably not discuss it here

[quartz mortar]

Ogey

[potent basalt]

is food money kind of imaginary currency or do they actually give it as real money... because it sounds like you either use or lose it money

[iron halo]

nah its actual money

[potent basalt]

hmm... I suppose that's better... not sure if there are many practical benefits of it being actual money though if it's for specific purpose

[iron halo]

a code for just participation?

count me in

im almost skeptical because it sounds too good to be true

[potent basalt]

does this mean mythological genie in general?

because that sounds amusing what people would cook

[iron halo]

nah genie is the mascot of vgen

[oblique badge]

getting code is not that hard tbh

[iron halo]

[oblique badge]

there is much more ways than from other artists

[iron halo]

i guess it just sounds super exclusive because you need a code to join

[potent basalt]

they even got an official sheet for the mascot https://help.vgen.co/hc/article_attachments/24435866063255

honestly as far brands go I can appreciate how their mascots isn't super modest by design

[iron halo]

honestly a pretty cute character too

shoulder length hair my beloved

[austere beacon]

rent < living with ur parents

im livin the wizard life 🧙‍♂️

[iron halo]

having moved out myself i definitely miss how much i saved by only having to contribute a little bit to the rent

but god i would not trade having my own place for that

i like the independence

[austere beacon]

My parents are pretty chill ngl. I often go to art classes with my mom and my dad is cool af. I don’t even contribute to rent, I just do the dishes. Only downside is that I have doubts most women would be down with a nearly 30 year old man who lives with his parents.

[iron halo]

my parents are very chill too and super supportive, its just the independence that was irresistible

my sister even joked i was definitely gonna move out before my older brother

being able to just go out at 2 am to the store if i feel like it without running the risk of waking someone up is priceless

[austere beacon]

Idk if I want to live in my own house with how expensive rent is where I’m at, but I would love to live in and own a boat.

Drawing and painting on a boat might be interesting, I’ll have to see whether or not it makes me sea sick though.

[iron halo]

who wants to crowd fund the neuro yacht

[patent quarry]

Does Neuro yacht entail having her drive the ship?

[iron halo]

https://tenor.com/view/a-night-to-remember-movie-a-night-to-remember-anighttoremember-anighttoremembermovie-titanic-sinking-gif-12213862323105496514

[woeful mauve]

Mostly for artist intersted. our latest streams raid host NancyDarestArt is drawing Evil in todays stream. Live now

[worthy sluice]

Chat

[slender oasis]

frills are my nemesis

[slender ferry]

Hey (new) is this where I post my art?

[oblique badge]

hi, here we chat about art in general, art posting is here: https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1095941852068331560

[mint root]

gonna try and draw something simple for evil's birthday, I usually draw something big for birthdays but with the skillset I have currently I want to make something good and simple

[wide river]

2 months old and 14th comms done

[wide river]

I'm improving on my rendering a bit, but at the same time, please bonk me in the head LMAO (spoilered)

[rocky jay]

cant believe you drew all that at 2 months old

[wide river]

yep

benched it a lot of times to prioritize on other comms while facing too much frustration in my end made it take so long

[rocky jay]

@wide river your pfp isnt quite my tempo

[rocky jay]

were you rushing or were you dragging

[wide river]

I'M ON MY GODDAMN TIME

ALSO PING MOMENT

[rocky jay]

i love how i could recognize that guy without even having watched the movie

[wide river]

i got nothing better to do

[wide river]

real

[potent basalt]

updated deviantart version of my artwork to make evil neuro's fingers a bit shorter on the right hand and some tuning... I would update it outside of deviantart but most sites either have limited or non-existent editing post functionalities https://www.deviantart.com/clord124/art/Evil-Neuro-cosplaying-Ashley-from-Resident-Evil-4-1312924695

[shut ridge]

Doing an art trade with my art idol/friend :D trying to draw food for the first time not going well 😭

I’ve improved on drawing hands and maybe arms

[vivid bronze]

those are some excellent hands

[vivid bronze]

I tried to make the hand look big from perspective but ended up with luffy from one piece ✌️😭

we all have starting points dw

-# I'm still at my starting point but eh

[potent basalt]

reminds how I early on made art with transparent backgrounds before quickly realizing typically you just want a background... even if it's just plain otherwise

[vivid bronze]

I chose transparent so I can make it into a L A P T O P sticker when I get around to buying some

[brazen rain]

LOL cant figure out how to share my art

its ok i put it in art

i think

[quiet relic]

Pages from the very first zine I hosted

I'm planning on the neurosama zine not being as bad ;3;

[mint root]

you need embed perms for that, which you can get by sending messages on the server

[quartz mortar]

You need embed perm which need 1k exp and you get 10-20xp per chat with 2 min cool down

[fossil fossil]

doodle

[mint root]

we bald today

[potent basalt]

sounds like stickers could be your specialty with art

[buoyant gorge]

finally back from vacation. wip of evil piece.

[worldly maple]

Hopefully we'll make it in time

[buoyant gorge]

hopefully

[urban summit]

Hope for the best for y'all🍀

[slender oasis]

good luck!!

[mint root]

I'm cooked, I wanted to draw something simple but its kinda over

[azure nebula]

It looks good though

[icy vale]

I'd be happy to help you to post it if you don't mind

[oblique badge]

they already did tho

[icy vale]

Oh that's rad

I'm reading old posts I guess

[shut ridge]

👀

[shut ridge]

I think if you draw it like that the person would have to be on the top

[vivid bronze]

like how?

[vivid bronze]

I like em for L A P T O Ps, I made a few others

[ornate orchid]

of all things to need to search up an image for.. confetti...

the confetti was the hardest part to draw somehow, I just could not get it to work

[frosty tree]

Making some doodles for my VTuber friend

[worthy sluice]

Awawawawawawawa

Evil

[urban summit]

This is gonna take a while.

[urban summit]

I'm gonna go insane.

[thick gale]

Me too, brother, me too

[urban summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-meme-among-us-gif-22540753

1 hr and this is all I got. I need to lock in fr.

[faint valley]

I should maybe do jester Azu next
Still never decided on outfit parts though

(Which is important, and because I can’t decide I am kind of stuck starting lmao)

[wide river]

old arts

[potent basalt]

the right one reminds me of lady dimitrescu but less vampiric XD it's just that she seems really tall and powerful

[shut ridge]

the fist faces us as the viewers, not the person he’s punching

[vivid bronze]

yea I wanted it to look like a fist by having the fingers visible

[tacit thunder]

Working on the menu level

[elder aspen]

Is this normal or not? How do artists typically use layers?

[patent quarry]

Hopes and dreams

[oblique badge]

well, nothing strange here, workflow depends on artists. some do 100 layes, some only one. each workflow has their own strengths and weaknesses, its more about what feels more comfortable

[patent quarry]

Stuff split up like this is perfect if you're going to be animating or rigging something

Caveat of using more time, not necessarily a bad thing unless you're dreading the entire process

[oblique badge]

animating?

you mean like tweening?

[elder aspen]

I found all the tutorials, all except the layer structure, I improvised and used the OOP file structure (some IT stuff)

[patent quarry]

Yah

[iron halo]

i make a new layer whenever i need one and dont organize beyond giving sketch, lineart and colors their own folders

its messy

[oblique badge]

well, you can definitely reduce the number of layers and folders so as not to get confused and search for long the one you need when there is a lot of them, but in general, looking at your layers, i would say that its okay. looks like usual vtuber model structure but you not making one so yeah, there is room for optimization

like for example all the hair can be in much less layers, so like, hair lineart, hair coloring, hair shadows/highlights etc

[oblique badge]

instead of 6 layers of ahoge, 6 layers of twintails etc

[elder aspen]

for example, one layer for colouring, shadows or highlights instead of separate ones?

[oblique badge]

yeah

thats how mostly people do

you still separate to groups, to like hair, body, clothes etc.

[elder aspen]

there is one advantage, it is fun to play with

[patent quarry]

For my personal workflow, all line art that's on the same plane is on one layer

No point in separating them and I can just add a new layer if needed

[oblique badge]

i usually make only 3 lineart layers, for face, hair, and everything else

and in the end i merge them together

easier to fix stuff

[patent quarry]

Yeah I always have hair in a separate layer

[steady tulip]

People also trend to merge layers as they start detailing so it’s easier to work with

[elder aspen]

I'm always haunted by the thought that suddenly I need to change some detail and I won't be able to

[patent quarry]

You can always change it

Just draw/paint over it

Useful skill to develop

[willow cradle]

drawing eliv on skateboard xd

[exotic python]

I'm so late, my back is giving up, I'm cooked, It's Neurover

[urban summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1329396445316382741/please.gif

I feel so [filtered] right now.

and it's all my fault for picking the pixel method.

[exotic python]

pixel art can be extra painful if you're still figuring out what to do, hope you can finish it

[urban summit]

You know what's even more painful? It's watercolor.

The photo look smudgy. But you get the idea.

[exotic python]

It's already looking great, nice work

[patent quarry]

dudes really going through it with traditional water color pixel art lol

[potent basalt]

I tend to have three main layers for base colors... hair, skin and things character wears... with background layers I tend to separate elements more

[quartz mortar]

For each different colours input a new layer for em

Like to the point most the time I spent on drawing is arranging em

[brazen belfry]

bday wip

[wide river]

nanashi mumei from hololive (old art)

[potent basalt]

I could understand wanting to give for each accessory own layer or something but for each base color their own layer sounds a bit weird way to around it... but hey since it works for you who I'm to argue XD

[quartz mortar]

It's just a way to make sure the color didn't bleed cuz my hands is still a bit shaky when drawing

[patent quarry]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1486253924850728990

[slender oasis]

this is what my projects look like mhm

[urban summit]

Slow and steady...

[tardy viper]

the body remake and clothes fitting is done in time no more blender (all credits to Taprieiko for making the evil base that i used as starting point and FireRainbow to help with Blender)

[jaunty quiver]

ur welcome

what exactly did you do~ just curious

[tardy viper]

Changed the Body to a booth model (Plum) to be able to change clothes in VRC. so just a Bodyswap and then fitting of the clothes to the new Body base. nothing groundbreaking

[jaunty quiver]

[fair locust]

For me every drawing is still experimental and follows a different process, but quite often I split things to different layer groups based on material. For example hair is one group with basic solid color at the bottom to use as alpha for the color, rendering and adjusting layers, face is another group, a shirt is another and so on