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I disagree, long triangles would make it harder to judge proper proportion
with the triangles you dont have to deal with the sizes of each part of the finger.
at least not as much
again these are for different purposes
Patriark of the Hildmarch Powers.
With rectangles it would fit the shape better
Even more so with each shape of the finger
i usuallly cut off the triangle so it is basically a tapered rectangle

adobo
yeah... anyway... evil neuro getting some "free" food... I think my art inspiration is only half in mud whatever that means https://puu.sh/KIZtq/72149b2faf.png
evil with the outfit I designed for the contest
I'm drawing headshots for practice, I'll probably do one for neuro as well. with a different outfit and maybe glasses
-redrawing old OCs day one-
Lemon Zest
progress report one
Do y’all have any tips to drawing spinosauruses
I want to try to draw the newest species
spinosaurus mirabilis
Reference photo
is this perhaps amasawa hair tools? also goodluck rigging shapekeys & skeleton
thanks
and i didn't use any tools, just a curve path and a bezier circle 

oh, and can i ask you how you rigged your hair please ? idk how 
Amasawa is basicly a curve tool with bezier~ just cwith a couple of presets
Manually painted 
I don't want the automatic weights its very unreliable
From what I've seen, it's almost the same thing, but directly integrated into Blender. The extension doesn't seem to exist for newer versions 
Wait really? sadge, not like I'm using it
YIPPPEEEE
Maybe I'm bad at searching, but I haven't found it 
I CAN FINALLY POST THE ART AFTER LIKE MONTHS
A tip for me if you are doing manual painting is to just use either a value weight of 1 & 0 with no smoothing at all
Woaw
make the falloff constant
well its really old, I was kinda expecting it to be unmantained now
the just smoothen them here

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the blue means no influence at all iirc
YUPPEEE
Yuppers
thx for the tips 
What I'm doing rn~
Modeling a jacket? parka?
Ooo
it looks awesome 
True
Thx
Also try to get this addon called "edgeflow" in the official blender extensions website
It's so so good for polymodeling

Ooo, I’m a physical artist so my renders look ahh
Fellow Blender user?
I did draw fallout moo vegas tho.

I see~ goodluck learning blender, its not beginner friendly
Why switch tho? Monthly Costs?
Nah, want a new challenge. Also it’s for college.

I know Maya from high school cause I got it free for my ROP class
I only tried 3dsmax from autodesk~ but it hurts my head so much
Bit of a veteran from Maya so the switch won’t be too bad bar the keybinds
maya idk how easy it is to use~ a lot of user says its really good for animating
The best
I have some old animations up if you want a link 😂😂
But yeah it’s great for animating. I’m just ahh.
is it on yt?
it's open source at least 
Yeah
True~ and a lot of youtube tutorials out there
True. Love that
True. But I’m doing a school class & projects
Although I plan on designing stuff for myself
ohh, i use retopoflow for retopo but a new addon never hurts 
Its mainly for polymodeling and clean up
I’m lucky I know the basics in textures cause I swear learning that the first time was rough for me
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I wanna try~ but idk if blender rigify is port-able to maya
and I'm too lazy to rerig 
maya is expensive no ?
They have a trial I think~
Yeah
I'm quite sure it is expensive, tho not as aexpensive as Adobe products
I used it cause the school version is free if you’re taking a class.
a year

Yeah. Not cheap. But it’s what professionals use and my teacher was in the industry so I think he know what he’s doing.
oh, might be cool to take a look 
it's the standard from what i know yeah 
I just realized my channel leaks my full name so I will not be dropping the link actually
Just imagine I have really bad Maya animations

I'm just a hobbyist so~ idk if I really need Maya
it cannot be that bad
It'd be nice tho~
Don’t, it’s only mandatory for industry peeps
blender is the more polyvalent i think, so if it's for a hobby that's enough
👍
Take it from someone going into industry for game design. It’s not necessary for hobbyists like yourself. It’s only really necessary for people like me.
so you're in a formation for game design ? 
Yeah. Game design major. Programming, art, and creative writing.
All the aspects of making games in one degree
Pretty awesome. But certainly tiring. Mostly the coding.

Anyhow I got to sleep. I have my 3D design class tomorrow. Goodnight everyone 😘
3A industries? cause a lot of Indies still use blender
it's extremely good for the price. ;]
They use Maya too, depending on where
Later then
I would say so yeah
goodnight !
Nigh nigh
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i'll remember you when i'll start learning maya 
I just want smoother animation tools~ blender is a bit rough and stiff in that aspect
Setting up IK switches is annoying too
I'm not looking forward to finding that out 
You can cheat that by using rigify tho, it still has flaws however
god i love plugins
but if you are making one yourself~ goodluck
same 
i think of them as part of blender tbh, especially since you just have to use a checkmark to 'install' them
its open source anyways
it just doesnt start with them so its not as overlaoded imo
probably? its a fork of rigify after all, just qol stuff added
I'm just used to the old stuff~ so I stay with it
old habits die hard i guess
Yeah~ I'm gonna try it somedaty
I tried cloudrig, looks promising~ It has IK spines, one of the things I wish rigify has 

uh, i know ik but what is spine ?
The bone moving the whole torso

it also has built-in physics bone, thats actually very useful
lone solitude
Fahhhh
I am thinking of trying 3d art
With blender probably
Uuh would be funny if blender stuff was literally mentioned earlier today in this channel

guess what 
I scrolled up and saw stuff about bones

And spines
Anyways, I thought of learning 3D art a little bit because I feel like it's simpler than 2D in some ways at least when it comes to shading and highlighting
i think it demands different skills, maybe not easier but it's definitely more automatic
but you can try it 
Better word would be niche
Anyways, I didn't really think of getting into bones and stuff mostly just making static models
i can send you some tutorials if you want 👀
Sure!
Tbh I feel bad going to 3d when I was kinda in middle of learning 2d and even got art tablet but whatever
But skills carry over
Plus biggest thing I hated about 2d is not an issue in 3d
you can do both 
- a tablet is useful when sculpting and drawing
Oh ok
The issues I had with 2d mostly was face shape, shading, highlights(Kinda), and cat ears were a pain
Maybe easier to do all those in 3D I will have to see
Supposably catears can be made as separate model and then just combined to the character or something like that
Anyways, I'm not even home right now so I can't even do any practicing
yeah, you can !
drawing side profiles is real weird
you gotta figure out the jaw and it gets real freaky when you have to remember that the mouth is not a separate thing attached to the face and is just an opening created by movement of the lips and how far the big ol bone shaped like a horseshoe with handles is rotated
this feels so creepy for some reason
Yeah but technically correct
some robot designs look like way some people do sketching... like circle on the side of the head is just glowing blue thing for example
I understand the mechanism now...
I can just
Keep opening the mouth
No one will stop me
XD
Is this what goes through the mind of a horror artist
well those lines do form something like saw's beartrap... what a movie
well in vague sense anyway... horror art is something yeah
anyway why it might look a bit like horror drawing is that those guidelines are still there and way the side of the mouth is presented
I can just keep going
way the expression is, including things like pupil size... makes it seem like yandere or something who is having one of those episodes before they chase you with a knife in a horror game... in your earlier example XD
have you seen attack on titan because because your art stuff reminds me of that show lol... how titans look with their expressions
I've seen some images of the titans... yeah
some find them look really scary while others perceive them looking unintentionally hilarious
I probably try to draw some horror-ish art soon-ish just to have some more variety
I'll probably end up making two versions anyway, but what do you think looks better, a gold pipe or a metal one?
I think metal is more iconic and can have a cool contrast, but gold matches the rest of the palette overall 🤔
i think since she flex her pipe leg, gold would be more fitting here
but steel would fit well if you added an onomatopoeia for the pipe sound effect
https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1475643392494014666
why has this led me here
Hey guys :D Im drawing this neuro and tornado for day 55 of neuro everyday and also to celebrate hitting 100 subs. Im open to suggestions of what I should add to this piece to kinda give it more life. Honestly it can be anything I am just tryna have fun with it :))
its obviously a work in progress
Trying to work on a logo for myself since I don't have one
Something a bit tDR/sci-fi/cyberpunkish, not sure how close I am to getting something that will actually work as a base that I can then kind of work on visual branding
Super rough though
proportions/etc. aren't exact, it's more for just getting an idea for what I want
did a shading study today
i just discovered today that my favourite thing about studies is that you dont have to follow all of the rules
sure I need to get the proportions right but do I really need the temporomandibular ligaments?
#artist-alley message
https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1475643392494014666
Honestly, it already looks good. I'd suggest looking at references for colors and depth to create a dramatic effect. You might want to soften the background lines depending on how the colors turn out.
I like the expression on her
Art I finished recently, I'm kinda bad at art.. 
I knocked this out in a day and a half 
I'll probably add more stuff as I render... https://puu.sh/KJ42R/d750943a3d.png
Sounds good! Ill see what I can do :D
Waow! Looks like manga panel
Drawing avatar for myself 
I made it after having a mental breakdown
wanted to express a sense of sharp despair I felt
I feel bad about that but this art looks gorgeous you are very talented.
thank you
I've actually made something like this for the first time ever, I never did abstract art before (or art in general except graphic design for youtube thumbnails)
Evil outfit contest results should be coming soon right 
it comes across really well
Updates~ lots of subtle additions & changes, I might also try to make shapekey driven drivers for opening and closing the jacket
Gotta figure out how should the zipper sync with body movements & distortion
Somehow reminds me of ribs and now I’m hungry
A bit rocky on the first one but I think I got comfy after

i swear i cannot make original music for the life of me
ive always heard it before
and when im kinda cooking i cant find any clear sound and it all gets sloppy
might try making tree it easier
guys who use blender, could you recommend some guides for newbie how to put lightning in the environment?
lol idk if you asking so I have some guides to use but yeah I do need help with that

anyways trees so easy to do
maybe need to make the spears also low poly

nevermind I don't need to make it low poly
most people do donut, chair or such for first model but I like trees so yeah
ello
depending of person it can be easier in 3D to do stuff over drawing and vice versa... like of course it's still about learning either way though
but if you have like really intuitive way to sculp stuff for example then someone might find themselves quite good rather fast with it
tbh I think 3d easiest for me
except that it was upside down and that I had to rotate it, kinda looks pretty good
easiest trick is just using an HDRI
gonna blow your mind
go to edit mode
select something
press ctrl-b
drag and optionally scroll
hmm so hdri is just an image

cool it makes my tree I did earlier look nicer though It still kinda looks best in unity but still
blender is fun
yes very
i was never a great blender user so whenever i wanted to make something i looked up videos and changed whatever i thought was better
what da
according to andrew loomis if you add a subdivision surface modifier in the modifiers tab on the right you basically have a face
an image with LIGHTING
there are some rendering settings like the new Eevee raytracing but if you want actual good lighting (at the expense of requiring a beefy pc with an nvidia card) switch the rendering engine the Cycles
I imagine it got patched but back in the day vending machines could be fooled with coin on string... or even a cookie if it's right size... so I'm just winging the theme XD
Been making AMVs lately and I loved this movie so of course I had to make one for it, hope you enjoy! https://youtu.be/ssCebpoZa7s
How can I keep myself motivated to continue neuro everyday? As the days pass I find myself becoming more and more dissapointed in myself and I just feel like my work had declined in quality- I don't wanna give up but I just can't keep myself motivated and I feel like I don't see the point anymore despite knowing I am trying to prove that anyone can learn to be better at art through dedication and turning to AI generation isn't worth it and is not art-
Oh my gosh, I just found this ancient stop-motion animation I made as a child that I thought was lost to time. HECK YEAH!
Ehh pretty normal for these types of challenges, it's nothing in you
I am so dedicated to this and I really just wanna show that I am capable but my motivation keeps kicking me and making it practically impossible for me to provide either good art or even if Its good I keep telling myself that ill never be good enough and that I should just quit- I keep having one really really good piece that I am so so proud of and then for like the next 20 days everything is just pure awful and inconsistent and can never live up to the standards ive set for myself....I don't know maybe I should stop comparing previous days to the new one's because everyday is different and even if things are bad I suppose it is a learning opportunity? I honestly just don't understand how to keep my motivation as high as my dedication-
i understand. i feel the same way a lot oop :x
i'm not sure that it will help you, but personally, my motivation comes from wanting to see myself get better. i know i won't be better right away, but i also know it's a fact that if you keep at something, and keep at it and keep keeping at it, you do get better.
just like how if you're writing all the time, your writing becomes refined over time as you leave more and more to muscle memory, and you develop a unique writing style. it's the same way with art, or any other skill for that matter.
knowing that fact, wanting to see my subject realized (wanting to see who or what i am drawing in reality instead of just in my head), and looking forward to what it might end up looking like, really motivates me to keep chugging.
though again, that's just me. people draw great things, but nobody will draw exactly what i want to see. so i figure "i will just draw it myself then! even if it's shitty, at least it's what i wanted to see", and i just wing it without any expectations of quality.
i think it's also important to not burn out though. if you're really not feeling it, take a break. do something else. break can be as long as you want. it can be a few hours or it can even be days
finally, even if the voices are saying "you'll never be good enough", i think you should keep going.
like if you're staring at your canvas, deciding on whether or not to work on it, or working up the motivation to do so, just pick up the pen and start. starting is always the hardest part, even between art sessions i think.
but once you start, it usually ends up being a breeze :3
prove the doubt wrong
That makes sense- I mean I do wanna see myself improve and I wanna prove to myself and others that I can do something useful and I can be something more. I don't want to live feeling constantly like I am never good enough and I just want people to see that I am capable of doing something actually good and not mediocre- My art has definitely improved but its also regressed at the same time and its really sucky because I know thats how learning works but it really doesn't help- I can feel so proud of something ive done but the next day its like I suddenly hate it and I HAVE to be better otherwise I simply will fail at life and everything and nothing will ever be good enough again if I don't succeed now...and I know what Im telling myself is wrong and that I am capable and I've proved so...day 55 is no easy feat but- I just cant feel proud of myself- I've come so far and done so well but theres just this overwhelming sense of dread that when I reach day 100...everything will just be so underwhelming and the art piece for such a big accomplishment won't be good enough and everyone will be disappointed and idk like hate me or something for doing all of this for the worst possible outcome- I feel like if I quit now and take a break then ill just never improve and ill just dissapoint the people who are routing for me- I want to prove people wrong about me. I want to show them I can be something more and I can do this. I want to prove to myself I am capable. I am not going to give up. I am going to find a way to remain motivated. You are right. I am going to prove them wrong. I am good enough and my improvement shows it...I mean my first ever neuro drawing was horrifying...compared to where I am today? In just under a year. I feel like I should be allowed to be proud of that.
you're doing one artwork a day?! holy
In just under a year. I feel like I should be allowed to be proud of that.
you should be proud :3
improvement is always something to be proud of
Yep...
same thing everyday
or well same subject I mean
the drawing obviously are different
I draw mostly neuro, evil on a Wednesday and occasionally vedal whenever I feel like it.
let me see if I can find my first neuro
its from July 2025 so its gonna be so far back in my gallery ;-;
^
It's normal for some days to not be as good
Especially when your creative muscle is fatigued
Gotta rest
^^^^^
When artists usually do this by draw everyday, it's mostly doodles and just line work
Not full pieces
Mogoon a really good artists did full illustration 100 days
That's super difficult and he's a professional
Yeah...that would have made my life easier but now ive set a standard its a bit late to go back
Nope
plus I kinda like doing the full pieces
That's in you bro
it feels more real and complete
Sunk cost fallacy right there
good luck on the rest of your marathon :3
i can't quite relate because i don't draw that often. i draw on and off each week, for maybe between 1 and 3 hours each time i do draw. then i go and do something else. i'm also not exactly drawing for the purpose of getting better. i know my art is shit lulz. improving is part of it, but i mostly draw because i want to see something realized, and i'll share it with others while i'm at it because maybe they'll like it too
I really need to stop being so critical of myself because I think ive already proven to myself I am capable. 55 days is insane for me because I can't even do something for 1 day half the time </3
!!!
exactly!! :3
thank you! Im gonna do this no matter what. I am too dedicated and ive already wasted 55 days of my life on this
Yeah don't be so critical
wasted is not the right word but yes
spent
You can keep going if you'd like, just expect some rough days and really rough days
Oh trust me we've had some of them 😭
I've drawn some of the most chopped neuros i have ever seen </3
Also I saw something about AI, dude just ignore them
You're already drawing and that's enough
mhm
Im gonna try find my first neuro ima have to take a screenshot from one of my videos because I don't have an actual photo (thank god I decided to document this in video form aswell and not just images in my gallery)
Okay I'm reading more about your long message
Dude are you doing art to prove people wrong about you or are you doing art bc you enjoy it
Both in a way I suppose
You should be looking at your drawing not at other people
Not a great mindset I'll say
From what I'm reading atp other people got your focus more rather than trying to enjoy making art
Yeah im aware of that- I definitely have some issues with that sorta thing and I really need to stop focusing on others and try and be okay with myself for once- I need to stop caring about what others think and care more about what I do aswell cuz I mean I really enjoy art and I lost interest after doing GCSE art as it kinda destroyed my passion...and now im slowly building it back up and finding joy in doing it again
you remind me of pewdiepie. he did like a 50 day "learning to draw" thing, and i think i recall him encountering a lot of the same feelings.
he started out with really poor style (they were just sketches too), but as he drew more as the days went by, he got better. by the end, he was still really unsatisfied with it and he kinda burnt himself out about it i think.
then he talked about how after that marathon was over, he picked up the pen again and drew sometimes, but quite irregularly. he noted how his quality and confidence in his art seemed to really improve after that.
so i think breaks are definitely important, and also drawing just for the sake of drawing (as a pastime), instead of drawing to improve. improving is always part of the process, and that can be a motivator, but i don't think it should be the primary motivator mhm
those are just my thoughts
If I didnt enjoy art enough to try again I don't think id ever have bothered with this to begin with-
Yeah but don't fall into the same cycle
now post a recent one 
Your definitely right...maybe I should try making some of the days more focused towards things I enjoy (like weather) and maybe that'll help me aswell- I think I keep focusing on what I think others wanna see and not what I wanna draw. I've only drawn a few things that Id wanna in this entire challenge
what are you even on about. these look so cute :O
i love how round the first image looks!! it looks so cuteee
You kinda have to juggle a lot of with color
this is what im talking about...
sometimes my art is like actually really good
like let me find my favourite
and other times its just...this.
lol yep
This one is still my favourite as of right now
i think most (all?) artists have works that didn't turn out so well and they consider them kinda failures
i have a few
Doodles. lots of artworks that are questionable quality and they were usually 2-3 hour jobs
I feel like ive set a kinda standard for myself and its very strange for me to just do something so simple because to me it feels so...unfinished- practically every art piece I do I will either never finish if I don't like the sketch and just delete it or I will finish fully- I don't really have any pieces that are just lineart I dont think-
that makes sense- I know that im kinda just being very critical of myself and I do definitely need to do something that I wanna do rather than what I think people would like to see from me
I also wish I could do more traditional but I don't have my own room as I share with my older sister, and I don't have a desk to properly lock in and work at...I really don't fancy trying to watercolour or charcoal or anything really on a top bunk bed...I think charcoal is probably my favourite art medium tbh-
What's wrong with simple? What's unfinished about just lineart?
Is the entire manga industry unfinished?
Because there's mostly no color?
I just wish my situation was slightly better so I could go downstairs or sit in a room that was my own rather than shared so I could actually lock in and do some art and focus without worrying about getting caught up in arguing or something.
You for artists to try something different means go break the standard they set for themselves right?
Then they can either fail or make something new
i completely understand about the being unable to focus part lol.
i don't share a room, but the room above me is always noisy with voice chat and rowdiness. it's not exactly the best environment to focus in
No its not that its because there is no colour its just that I prefer drawing in colour if I am doing digital since my digital is weaker than my trad and I don't really understand like uh idk stuff I cant think of the word
rendering?
I feel like it's because for me lineart isn't like proper lineart it has no depth or weight to it, its just a very simple outline normally so it feels incomplete without colour and I dont really understand how to make lineart more....linearty...
that and also practically everything about digital tbh
I suppose it is very true it is something I need to work on
Just try it for a day
Or 2
Linearts can be complex and using color can make you miss out on some cool stuff
I think colouring is probably my favourite part of drawing so thats probably why I always neglect my lineart to go colour
I dont really have a large attention span so trying to draw lineart and make it good and keep fixing it just bores me but I could colour for ages and not get bored
I definitely should try work on doing better line art though
You don't have to make it perfect
Here's a lineart of evil I like
The lines are messy but evil looks alright to me here
You don't actually even need lineart at all. There are a lot of artists who skip lines all together and use color exclusively to hint at the illusion of lineart that you never realise isn't there until you start looking for it.
Yeah you can either work on line art or just hone in on colors if you enjoy that better
My proportions is absolutely awful when I do that to be honest
Then another thing to work on
I should do some experimenting for sure though
That just comes with practice, proportion is hard.
I'm suggesting for you to focus on one thing to work on each day rather than a full illustration and composition
That probably is a good idea
I think ill do some experimenting with lineart exclusively and also colour exclusively
kinda try out some new things with them and see what I can do with it
Finally some breakthrough lmao
I think its probably my typing style but its not that i was against any of the ideas but rather just expressing my thought process 😭
Im very bad at articulating my thoughts properly
No I could get your thought process
And I was saying that mindset wasn't good
If you really wanna get better
Just using color can be a lot of fun, everyone should give it a solid go at some point.
I am very aware that my mindset is really messed up and I know I really needa do better for myself and I am gonna do so and try to
Notice how from suggestions it was " I can't do x because x" or so
Now it's something I'll try and experiment
You should definitely try it
Like right now
Yeah I have a very fixed mindset and I immediately go to shoot down anything without meaning to because I am open to ideas but rather than presenting positives I always have to present the negatives first
its like 2am and I have school tommorow ;-;
I've done worse lmao
tbf I dont have many lessons though
I mostly just have study periods anyways
Wednesday is always an empty day on my timetable
honestly fair enough-
Im gonna experiment with those things later today probably during study periods tbh and I also am gonna try and do better for myself and stop focusing on others so much.
There are two options for artists, learn to love the struggle or learn to love what you make without the struggle. Also probably more than two options but that doesn't support my point so ignore those.
I suppose the best thing you can do is learn from the struggle and the challenges-
I think I need to look at my art from a new perspective rather than critisising the flaws maybe I should ne embracing what makes it good, what's better about it and the improvements and the fact that its something I did and stuff
some great advice artists can give is... focus to improving some specific thing by challenging yourself or just try to improve in general...
improving specific thing is like... try to identify what aspect in your character art feels like falling behind, like hair for example and then just experimenting with that in your next artwork
love that art style
i really like that lighting too 
Draw
yeah, learn to accept unfinished, non polished and low effort art I think is good. if you are not feeling very motivated you can just draw something simple like a singular eye or a chibi doing something silly, you might just need rest to recover
Cute!
Thanks!
she looks so fluffy and cute :3
Hello
Socute
what only 2 layers is crazy

Scheming
"I'm gonna draw something"
an entire day passed
Didn't even touch a pencil
"I'm gonna draw something"
...
repeat
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
too real
just fought with my intuos pro pen thing to get really worn off tip out and replaced it with unused one
found on the internet quite a few people fought with that model of pen lol
also, did they hire a demon to design their pen tip / stand container thing... yeah, opening that thing was fun until I read an useful tip to just press it against table and then turn
~
neglected comms wip (idk if i did the pose right)
Not necessarily just colors, but structure. Structure is more important than lines, even with line art.
Sure but I was telling the guy to focus on one thing rather than full comps
Then unless your doing abstract contemporary art, structure is the most important.
Sketch
I understand that, I'm saying to let the guy focus on thing cuz theyre struggling with getting stuff out 😭
Ooh.
being aware of it is a step forward, just need to find a way to start the process
Another day art chat
Ya ever look at a super loose half-assed sketch with scribbles for hands that's barely a concept and think "man... no matter how much I refine or finish this I will never like looking at it more than I do now."
damn... you nailed the insane expresion so well
this is why i like the repeatedly scribbled art style, with lots of searching lines or whatever you call it.
as an example look at the eye of the drawing i just sent
Sign to just try again with something different
thanks! it was the hardest thing to get right, because to get it right you also need to get the jaw right, and and to do that you need to perfect your loomis method side profile and all that stuff
funnily enough like 30% of it is just those two large sharp teeth at the top. they add A LOT.
I like that too, good work btw I love when people push expression, but I more mean when it's a total mess, the beginning of a drawing kinda thing, and for some reason I just like it more than I think I will ever like a more refined version of it.
yeah the "brain fills it in" stage
of course you cant really have a clear finished drawing with that, but the rough, thin, repeated lines get you quite far
I've never tested if I have embed perms, but I'll try to toss an example out.
This is just a light sketch, I could clean it up, redraw it, shade or color it. But... I really don't want to? I just... like it how it is. I usually do, feels like I should want it to be better, sometimes I do but most of the time I like the mess.
yeah this especially happens for the artist who drew it
cause you see the vision and your brain has an easy time filling it all in
i also see it but probably not as much as you do
Maybe it's just the sketchbook vibe, nice to not try so hard sometimes. Dunno, just feels odd to be comfortable with something so simple, just curious if others felt the same way about their own stuff sometimes.
Wip of Maomao
reference also does heavy lifting of course... with your chosen method to learn a lot of people initially like the results and it's something clickbait art videos love to do with day 1, day 7 comparisons lol
I just mean, it's good to try and avoid getting discouraged after initial honeymoon of starting drawing
I have noticed that it is a lot easier for me to start drawing with a reference
although it does get a lot harder than without sometimes because I need to match some features exactly which can get super hard
instead of just not caring cause its an original creation
no one has ever created it before
although I'd say these original drawings are pretty good despite being really disturbing
oh and i did this one too
before all the others which is why its in pencil cause i didnt have liners yet
drawing without references, just letting flow of inspiration to add details with some steering and consideration
some of these are just me practicing different sketching tech
and then finishing the drawing to see if i did well
one of your sketches reminds me of sasuke uchiha but since you're doing references it's not him and hair is different anyway lol
go straight to lineart so you Don't get that feeling
part of learning is to trust the process
which one?
is it the horse one
i hope its the horse one that would be funny
nah your bottommost example... the guy who looks a bit shocked or something
am i really that bad at drawing girls
i did like three drawings where i tried as hard as i could to draw a woman and made a guy or a little boy instead
your brain has good pattern recognition and basically completes the drawing for you but you don't yet have the skill to match that so it'll look worse when you do lineart. you just have too much experience on observing things compared to drawing that it still needs alot of catching up to do
the good lines are there you just can't put it into paper yet
Nah, I mean I'm not great at lineart but I'm not terrible either, I don't mind the quality of my lineart at least. It's not really a negative thing is why it feels weird to me, it isn't that 'it will be worse if I refine it' I just won't like it as much even if the cleaned up version is really high quality, the mess just feels nicer to look at a lot of the time.
making jaw less box shaped is one way to make it clearer... one of my old artworks to illustrate... and since I mentioned character from naruto... https://www.deviantart.com/clord124/art/Hinata-Huyga-Punk-Wallpaper-1205988493
i just dont like the sharp chin look
people dont have knives for chins
last time i checked
I don't either tend to draw them like that a lot... I make them more circular as preference generally
it depends of artwork... I sometimes do them... sometimes I just don't
jawline isn't the only thing and it varies a lot between artists so it's not like hard rule but... it's really combination of details... like if you do prominent eyelashes combined with certain eyes and other details people should be able to tell
did discord not want to cooperate or something?
I dunno, first time I post the pic, it pop up as a file to download.
you can just make it the final piece, clean up the guidelines and maybe do hatching
some do art where they leave sketch visible on purpose to add more detail
Reminds me of kaworu from eva
no?
chen
how did this take two hours 💔
#animation #lemon #oc #redraw #character #characterdesign #anime
idk how i'd describe this but i wouldn't describe it as me being good at making music
neurs
neuro 
Gives me somewhat strong Portal vibes
Def need to work on getting proportions right but its good for now

Trying to draw something in my tiny sketchbook atleast everyday if I can
swarm piece
nearly 2 months so I cut corners and called it done lmao
waterbrushes are weird to use when you didn't get the gist of it
if anyone has tips on how to improve, please be brutally honest
it took longer than tomorrow because i had a trip to go on but its done
i'm going to be brutally honest.
it looks really good by itself. as for how to improve, practice practice practice :3
it's all practice when it comes down to it.
that's the brutal, honest truth right there
ok, ty 
you might be erasing parts and redrawing them over and over. this is the case even in digital (although, it's easier in digital than analog). that's part of the process. it's grueling, but it does help you improve.
sometimes it may never look right to you, no matter how many times you redraw whichever part you're unsatisfied with. that's okay too. when you feel like you've been spending too long on that part, just yolo it and leave it at that. viewer generally isn't critiquing every part of the artwork and just wants to enjoy it :3
yeah, i had to do that a lot. i need to learn to push less with my pencil so it is easier to erase and also sketch
also have to get a new drawing glove for digital
i also have to learn how to color digitally, because everytime i do digital coloring and even analog it always looks bland. i think its shading and highlighting related so thats something to work on
i've yet to properly render, myself lol
i'm working on my best piece yet though (just finishing the final lineart), so i'll be playing around with seeing what looks good for a while, i feel like.
oh right its called rendering, i forgor the name. im excited to see your piece when its finished also!
i think it helps a lot to watch artists that stream on twitch (e.g. shachimu). i've picked up a tip or two from these streams.
for example, it's important to make your background some value of gray or slightly dark-ish gray, because iirc it contrasts better with color values (your colors will look better) and your eyes can see certain colors better against a gray background as opposed to a white background
ooh, ill check out shachimu
it's for a different vtuber lol. i couild post it here i suppose
ive been watching chipflake's art streams
make the background gray
when coloring***
doesn't have to be gray all the time. mine was white during my first couple sketches, then i made it gray as i was doing the final lineart, just to reduce the glare from black-on-white
of course, that's digital lol
it seems you do mostly analog(?)
it depends
digital at home, analog on the go

Give example
she is very happy
i dont have one rn, best i can do is just describe. its just sections of solid color and no rendering at all when i do digital, and when i try to render it looks awful
oh hi key but outside swarmfm
we are swarm
i art
i art too
we art in this alley

it's like... we are some kind of artists and stuff
is this destiny 
i guess vedal gonna announce it on the stream
28th is last day of the month and its gaming with evil stream
yeah it would make sense the reveal would be on stream
im honestly fully expecting a delay of some kind
but we'll see

its a lot of submissions so it makes sense for it to take some time
I like my outfit ideas despite they have like about zero chance to win even though bunch of people like them... like outfit that wins is likely very thematic with what aligns with the community like her having outfit with xeno or something... or something related to her having harpoons
there is also good chance some outfit related to community meme wins
I know it helped with amount of submissions that there wasn't much barrier of entry with allowing even quick sketches but over 1000 submissions is crazy XD
Sneakers, modeling this is so hard 
-hope the strings aren't so hard
woh
those look amazing!
Thanks
wishing you luck on the strings! 

Need ideas for outfits to draw
Uuh
it'll get there, form is looking good tho
form?
overall shapes are pretty much there roughly, it just looks like it needs polishing. which will naturally happen if you keep on drawing more
i see
hello
hi
Is this still a question you’re wondering about? Art improvement is a topic im passionate about unless you’re only referring to the piece you made. I wanted to answer earlier but I was busy.
oh sure! always welcome to suggestions
i have a newer sketch here that you can also do
Yeah, so just to give some context I didn’t really start my learning journey until around 2021, so I understand how hard improvement must feel. But most of the time seeing actual change is a combination of a few things.
Improving your visual library (basically the basic knowledge and fundamentals about particular art principles and topics and how it would look in practice)
Practice shouldn’t just be blind drawing, it should focus one singular concepts at a time
and those concepts should be based on observation (which is a key skill)
when something looks off, you have to ask yourself, what exactly feels off?
For example let’s say body looks off
then you use your art knowledge to break that down into issues of either A) Anatomy B) Proportions C) Gesturing or D) Perspective
i do have these
Narrow in on one of them
i see
the one that you feel like you need to work on most
thats really helpful! ty
and only target your future pieces to improving that one aspect
until it looks correct
then it gets added to your visual library and you won’t have to revisit it again for a time
keep doing it this step by step process enough and eventually you’ll reach the level you want to be
on average it takes like 5-7 years or so
but some super efficient learners can learn in 2 years
Neg illustration is an example
In the neuro community I would say Kapxapius is one as well
do you have any examples of what you think i should focus on? based off of these
hmmm
(both done by copying a reference)
do you draw with just your wrists?
lemme check
if you want to practice confident linework you have to draw with different parts of your arms. Wrists are for small details, but larger line strokes are usually drawn using your shoulder and occasionally elbow movements
this helps with drawing broader strokes without the jitteryness
improves linespeed tremendously
fingers and wrist
I know an artist named AT who can finish entire composition sketches in like 30 min using this technique
ill try to use the arm more
Also, try learning proportions
For anime specifically
its really helpful for leading into getting better at other aspects of art
because proportions are the biggest make or break for how a character looks most of the time
For example, anime bodies can be around 7 to 7 1/2 heads tall
using the head as measurement you can place every other body part
bottom of chest (2nd head level)
i do know that one, just forgot to use it
for referencing specifically, i think observing the neuro reference and taking any single point of the body like the hand for example, and visually measuring how far the shoulder is for it, and trying to replicate those exact proportions (e.g. elbow being exactly at the halfway point between shoulder and hands) will help you precisely draw her
then you can use that new point to figure out the rest of the body
like elbow being the same level as where the bottom of the ribs would be
when resting against the body
that makes sense
yeah referencing is all about puzzling out relative distances between different parts of a piece when only linework is concerned
you could draw a smaller neuro overall than your reference but if the general ratio and proportions are the same, she would look the same
for the most part
so its not about drawing it exact, but building your skills to observe and replicate these body parts relationships that’ll allow you to easily draw characters from memory or reference in the future
anyways good luck
i’ve yapped too much
thanks so much, you are super helpful with this stuff!
form is important too but that’s more of a gesture and shading problem then one of linework
i’ve been there, and i don’t want anyone else to have to suffer the way i did 
I didn’t join any communities early on and had to learn all these art things from scratch and the amount of overwhelmed feeling I got from learning is pain
looking good tho. and it’ll only get better as you go along.
what is gesture?
poses to sum it up in the easiest way but its also about flow and direction
its important for posing but also lends to composition
a single line from the top of the head to the area between the feet should have a flow that doesn’t go against the overall direction of the composition

this is why when people draw figures against things like the golden ratio, it has a naturally appealing gesture
quickposes is a good site for that
60 second intervals of drawing only poses with minimal amounts of linework as possible
only capture the flow and direction and draw the very basic, general form
its not the most fundamentally necessary thing, but when you have it, you end up drawing people so much faster
and have a much more appealing vibe to your pieces
gestures prevent character stiffness
joeyccoco is a good artist to look at for stylized gesturing
just by looking at his piece you can see the lines have an intended overall direction and flow
I see thanks for the answer, I never really did gestures, and I don't even have plans to do it since there's alot of things I need practice in.
its something to be learned later imo. not having it wont break your art. its just the sprinkles on top.
hmmmmm
but if you ever feel like your characters look stiff, its usually a gesture thing
so at least you’ll know why
I guess I don't have much problem on stiffness. a big one I need to work on is perspective which will enhance the poses greatly, although progress on that is abit slow
framed perspective is a great book for perspective
it actually shows you how to measure objects consistently across distances as well as explain all the major concepts
but its an annoying read at times which is why i haven’t finished it 😅
that’s currently my weakest area so i’ve been practicing on that recently as well
if you ever want to bounce around ideas on perspective im always up to talk about it. might provide some new insight for you since im studying it as well.
hmm... way I think about it that if arms are visible they should be doing something else than hanging on sides and with legs they also should be doing something else than character standing completely straight... but then there are expections of course
i wanna draw but what
Gesture drawing is great. I used to do it more often with 3 hour or so (?) undraped sessions at an art college. It helps a lot to improve exaggeration and figure drawing.
I need to get back into it tbh.
it does! its been a while since i did my studies on that so i’ll probably do that again some day.
I had a period where i drew nothing but gestures for like 2 months.
I'm haven't read art books, but maybe later down the line I will
Yeah definitely. Also that’s not a bad idea, I have a tendency towards stiff figures still so a month or so of raw gestures might be a good idea.
i checking arts in socials like 30 minutes every day and saving some i really like. when i dont know what to draw i scroll my folder looking for inspiration and sometimes something clicks
If you want one for color, Color and Light, the Artist Master Series version is probably the only book on color you’ll ever need
It literally covers everything
that'd be nice
I'll write down and maybe check it out later. I do have a pretty solid plan on what to do for now so probably later
Figure Drawing For All It’s Worth by Andrew Loomis is a great book for drawing figures. That one’s pretty well known.
I also recommend watching Proko on YouTube, his videos are easy to understand and will take you far.
probably already did that, I watch art videos from time to time
excal’s art tips are good too for quick and easy tips on anatomy, proportion, etc
yeah I'm on excals server
woo done
Ooh nice.
my brain is in shambles
pretty artstyle, I like her design
scary 
I unlocked the McEvil's color palette while working on it. (I realized there wasn't much point in replying to my own post if it's been a week, so I'm leaving it here too, believe me it was important) 
another wip
I know this is mostly drawing stuff but does anybody know any good vocalists in the community
I wrote a parody of LIFE that I think would be fun if it were sang by someone good at singing
On a scale of 1-10, how cursed does this look?
very
Does this look any better or should I just scrap it and start over with an easier pose to draw?
oh wow how many pixels is your canvas
320 x 240
it is hard 
I remember something from one of the first tutorials I watched on youtube and I'm only using it now, wip
also realized halfway that mini has a similar hood
I added the glasses and thought its just mini now
Looks good!
Done, one part atleast~ will have to make them asymmetrical later
Can’t help with that, but I support the idea
👆
PEAK Noelle genshin impact art dropped in #1453654514543624213 
the eyes are moving 
well done XD
tbh parodies usually don't require a good singing voice
WIP stuffs, Abber Rise!
You have unlocked new role
I did an artwork like about five hours lol and I'm just considering if I want to change something
Goofy first time with a DAW.
screw you and your talent and skill 
I've had FL studio for more than a year and have been playing piano almost all my life with the intention of making music and I still cant make anything like that
WHAT
I can start, and even sometimes make something good
then I try to extend it and either fail or make something slightly worse
after that I have no idea how to end or extend
Scales and Chord repeating helped me alot here
i have an example
this is one i made, it starts off really nice, then gets sort of interesting but needing a setting or a good continuation
then i lose all ideas and shit myself to end the song
i guess i just dont know how to just stay simple with my music
it really does a lot when you do that
oh gee
In the end
since its kinda spacey
like it has a place it could fit that place is just nowhere near the vision i had cause i just wanted to end it cause i was all outta ideas
i recommend you try like a High synth that cuts through all the noise like a fader or sum i dunno how to explain it
like uhhh
for the ending
since it kinda just dies out for ur ending tbh
i dunno how to explain it wait
ah
i think i should just start over and try to extend the start and make a more calm track like you did
Orchestral tracks are easy to make ig
the start is exactly the way I want it to be as well
it gives that feeling of dropping whatever you were doing and staring in awe as the skies turn red and a creature beyond beauty descends
Im gonna take some inspiration from your piece and hear what you did to add variety in an otherwise slow track
Shapekeys or Skeletal?
or UV shift?
uhh, the bones are moving the uvs if that helps ? 
yeah !
- finishing touches to art 2. publish art online 3. play resident evil requirem! XD
If anyone’s bored I’m gonna be doodling for about an hour or so in vc.
I have only drawn humans or stuff before
Never a animal
First sketch of a animal
Spinosaurus
I hate drawing claws
I didn’t do the last one cuz I have no clue on claws parts
those lines look sus
not urs, these look great
guys.. my Noelle genshin impact drawing is the number 1 post on Noelle mains reddit today 😭🥹
y'all can check out my Noelle drawing over here #1453654514543624213
thanks.. i appreciate it 🙏 🥹
😭 I know they kinda look like….you know
the perspective is crazy.. love it 🥹
This is not actually my first attempt (I did a bunch of drawings this is the one that isn’t as bad as the rest)
Hey buddyyyyy
are you awake?
i was about to take a shower and then i forgot lol
sounds nice :)
stoopid fennec 
Not enough sealant. 
A little bit of fun 
1h study
Fire as always
Okay now this is cool. And it's making me anxious. How can I get perms to show stuff too 😭🙏
And claps for the amazing drawing of course 💚
you need to chat more to get embed perms
Full outfit~ not UVmapped & textured yet
another swarm piece with evil this time. im really trying to squeeze out as many pieces as i can before my vacation lol
how tf do i do painting art this well bruh
practice a lot? idk what advice to give
tbh im winging a lot of the textures in the hand itself, it’s only the large sections that i kind of sketch out beforehand
everything else is just carving, erasing, and adding random textures until I think “o hey, that looks mechanical enough” lol
just work big sections, then medium, and then small details. That’s most of what design theory is about.
mm i coulda finish it faster if i remembered to use opacity
just now i realized my brush was on 100 opacity the whole time
struggled with picking color way more without lowering opacity
AYYYYY THE SAME AS ME
AYAYA
i always forget opacity as well 
i like the brushes you chose
HOLY PIECE 💚
I wish I had money to commission something just for fun
Another Evil stream, another art complete 
the left side is 🔥 (the right side too)
guess no contest results yet 
A few days ago it was said that they couldnt name certain date, but they would finalize winners as soon as they can 
Damn it's March already

oh... still sounds like a good practice
gotta draw some resident evil related fanart... not to be hyperbolic but resident evil requiem is going to probably sweep a lot of awards... devs have been killing it since resident evil 7, including with their remakes since then
Yay RER is amazing
This is one of the best art pieces I seen ever
I have no idea what that kind of horror art style is called but anime style horror stuff seems to like it
-# just info i am also a beginner so i can only share my knowledge and experience which is likely pretty limited compared to many others in here
@fiery quartz so this is an example of the loomis method
it starts with drawing a circle, then drawing two perpendicular lines intersecting at the middle, indicating the direction the face is pointing
then an oval cutout is drawn on each side of the head at "about 2 thirds the size of the first circle when drawn from a side profile"
then the middle line is extended downward to the bottom of the chin
yes but very fun i think
that sounds weird i mean i think it is very fun
there's nothing wrong with being passionate
you made it sounds weird
i meant that it sounds weird cause it sounded like i havent actually tried it
quick question
i searched up the loomis method
and i keep seing these videos of people using it
but like, they draw so smooth and like round
is it just practice or like, how do i get my hand to draw better
thats a lot about technique and practice but it depends what you mean
like, when I try to draw a circle, it's very jittery
maybe you draw too slow
sometimes many fast line to form one line is better
this has like 3 different names
if drawing digital adding some stabilizer or whatever it's called depending of program can help with jitter
in case of drawing on low friction surface
it's pen and paper
sadly i don't have a tablet
i think i could easily just draw like everything on paper, and then take a pic of it and trace it with vectors in inkscape
it took me a while to draw this circle and i was really excited to do so
still am that circle is sick
wow
youll get better eventually,drawing smooth circle is one of the process
i like to make my grip longer and maybe a bit further back when i draw larger shapes
look at that circle! :O
that makes sense
also with art... a lot of artists prefer lineart not being "too perfect" as it can actually look a better when circle is like 99% there... so it's subtle details
that's good to know! i honestly have no idea though
point of it's like... if character art is treated too much like architecture with perfect curves and straight lines it looks off unless it's a blueprint of some robot or something... you generally want to avoid straight lines and have variance in curves during those curves... like with clothing and stuff... hair too
another thing that has helped me a lot is copying reference art that I like a lot
using the methods to figure out the proportions and basically reverse engineer the art
here are some I did
oh that does sound like it would help
also most of anatomy is just about wrapping flesh around bone and how lazy you can be with sketching the bone
that makes sense
it's a valid way to learn... there are so many ways to learn art that suit personal preferences
I read an comment how someone self learned art due they were to some manga so much so they started to draw them and learned that way XD
i honestly don't really have a big end goal or a way to learn that i've thought of or anything, i'm just trying my best to find myself another hobby
cause i kind of lost mine
i don't know, i used to make like a shit ton of music and suddenly i stopped feeling it and i quit
but it's left me quite empty so, picking up another cute little creative hobby like drawing sounds fun
it is very motivating for me, and helps me spot what i did wrong easier
I totally get it... it's nice to have two or three hobbies for example... some people don't understand that some of us like to do art as just a hobby but you can ignore that part of the art community... in fact that's my general advise with so many hobbies... you don't have to engage the whole community for your own sanity XD find nice places like this one
that's fair
even worse is trying to make a job out of it, man is the creative industry predatory
cause instead of going "why does she look scared?" at drawing number 3 (the front facing yelling one) I see that the eye is a little higher up, the lower eyelid more straight, and the eyebrow a little more raised
the brain is incredibly sensitive to tiny changes in facial expression
drawing is a really really nice hobby
watercolor shir
this is shiro
i removed the o for comedic effect
almost done. I had one of those moments where you think "looks good, maybe I'll post it today" and proceeded to find one coloring layers with a bunch of errors. In short, I may post it in a day or two, after double-triple-checking it.
I guessed that from the context with the drawing... I'm just pointing out the middle thingy is really long as it even goes past the nose and mouth XD
I'm not used to the more cartoonish style, but I like experimenting
looks good... noise adds nice texture to it too... does a lot
yeah, I like to have a bit of texture when I do simpler shading.
and I do it a lot recently
I also fell in love with making filters part of my art XD
some noise and gaussian blur
do you draw with a drawing pad or a mouse?
Hi art chat
hi
I have a wacom pad, the closest experience I had with mouse was coloring only, It was a while ago... those weren't my best works
but I do some pixel art with mouse sometimes
nice
i ask because using mouse to draw art left handed is fucking impossible so asking people what their experience is drawing with a pad to see if its worth investing into.
I use mouse to do some things like using the interface
as a lefty, never used a mouse for drawing. Ive used a non-display tablet for the longest time and only recently transitioned to drawing on ipad. If you want to get into digital with a tablet id recommend a cheap non-display one to learn the ropes
definitely worth it over a mouse if you want to pursue long term hobby
I think you can configure it to work as left handed, you can do some research and find a cost-benefit option
guys... I looked... I looked at my artwork from ten years ago 
Get a cheap one then see where it goes
Thanks very much friend!
I draw very good left handed but I’m bad at drawing with mouse with right hand, and I’m horrible with left handed mouses XD
I’m sort of ambidextrous, but in all the wrong things
Im write and draw left handed and do everything else good wotu right hand, like using a mouse and throwing a baseball.
I don't think a mouse is designed for drawing lol
i dunno,
im not experienced at all tbh
but most artists online i see are digital artists so i assume atleast SOME are good at it
im just wanting to learn how to draw since i write web novels and i want to turn them into manga
even drawing on paper im kinda shit so probs gonna take a long time
What's a long time for you
but learning to draw is alot better than paying somebody to make manga panels for me.
more than a decade.
Lol I'm confident you can do it earlier than that
Give or take like 2-3 months you can start seeing major improvements
either i learn to draw my own shit or i pay half my paycheck a month just to get some pics XD
i hope so...but i need one of those drawing pad things first.
You can start with the Almighty lasso fill tool lol
whats that?
Draw a shape and it fill the shape with any color
oh i know of this
Rather than medium it's really how you apply theory knowledge principles and your creativity to make art
You can do it with a mouse
Start with that if your iffy about a drawing tablet
for example, this is the furthest i have ever come to drawing...and its all on paper, with my left hand, it would look HORRIBLE (more than it is currently) with my right hand.
they look great imo
And lol whatever hand you use doesn't matter
many proportions that are difficult to get right
which is all of them but you did them well
love the horror in the second one too
got it from an episode of re:zero i saw
that makes me want to watch it
ive heard its one of those where the protagonist goes through immense physical and psychological torture is that true
yes
he dies and restarts from a check point
its the show i got alot of inspiration from when writing my story.
something like this?
Try XP pen deco lw
wuts that?
A drawing tablet
well it looks cheap...
hmm... idk how prices are out there, but If you're looking for something very basic, I remember years ago that bamboo line was cheap as hell
i guess
my only problem is, iv always drawn while LOOKING at the drawing while im doing it so...
how much would my drawing change if i have to look at the screen and away from my hand while doing it?
but again, do your research, don't just take my word, idk how this stuff are this days
same thing here, digital art sounds interesting to me but ive never really drawn like that
You don't want to invest in something so expensive especially if you're starting out
The wacom line is also smaller compared to others at the same price
Unless you're a baller then I wouldn't reccomend it
And I have a 400$ wacom tablet with no screen
i have a lot of fun with physical art
it can be harder but a lot more rewarding too, just being able to see the drawing on real paper
that never was a problem for me, and I was traditional only for a long time
this looks 10x better IRL and makes me happy every time i see it for example
Your hand wouldnt block a significant portion of what you're drawing


Yeah
