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me experimenting and trying to make video game background music
Oh right for physics class I drew this quick thing of evil, you'll see the full thing later if I remember to post it, but we did a projectile motion lab with clipboards and stuff so I did this...
... I didn't know how to do the hand so I just did squiggles lol
This turn out better than I thought considering it's a long time since I last draw something
quick neuro piece before work
managed to get weekend art done
I got inspired by playing silksong and stuff I might try to draw hornet at somepoint lol
I swear I don't hate evil it just looked better the more fire and lighting I added
something silly occurred to me... bones aren't that fire resistant... I just haven't really thought about it before in sense of fictional settings where there is so much fire and bones are fine somehow XD
anyway cool pixel art


oh hey it's that one painting on minecraft
bedal, trying not to use line art. although I already failed considering the face but thats an exception for now.
wip

neuro
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should have become an artist
2 stars i already feel warm 
Will 11 make it happen?
is it okie if i ask for design ideas in mc here? tryna pick between 2 designs
sure
Left vs right design for our road to grand entrance to the town?
i asked in multiple places so far the total votes are 8-8 π
I think you got what it takes... it takes a bit of practice to make her less like pancake lol ^^ normal for someone who has just started to draw
i have a question since i'm not familiar with pixel art in general, i took this pretty picture of the valley town in my minecraft server with friends, if i were to turn this into pixel art to try to fit in mc pixel art i assume it will turn into a disaster bc of too much detailed crammed into too little pixels? How would one actually go about making it remotely work? Sorry if its super broad topic or smth!
depends on what details you want to preserve for the image, pixel art you would have to combine many aspects and lose details and specifics. as colors would blob together
try painting over it
hm well i'm not sure if the temple can survive, but like starry night sky some quick house details and the pink trees to symbolize the valley i guess?
the temple can survice definitely depending on the size of your canvas
uhhh
took a while for people to get it but you can see its preserved with much details
whats the height and width
uhh let me get an estimate one sec
it would be anywhere from 122x64 to 152x80 i think
some can do with 32x32 and such
so just try painting over it
try zooming out and squint while looking at the pic
gives you a rough idea

think my image when scaled down looks fine but since in mc its gonna be like 1/3 of the screen large in that same size the resolution shows itself, but i guess thats just how it goes lol
for reference help go look at the in game paintings vs the originals
ok! let me try find smaller ones, the more detailed ones are normally like 200-300 height i think
my alternative plan is just to make pixel art of like a simple valley with the "welcome to meepo valley" sign since we plan to put that in this ver aswell as like a billboard thing to welcome u to the place
drawing vocaloid of V4 Flower
well assuming you make background to make sense with the angle it should look okay... tilting easily makes already drawn art look a bit off
I'm not sure if tilting makes it look better or not then lol... I know some like tilt art but it's often like a photo from drawing made on paper which makes it look angled
I see
Drawing on paper 
Cute

more i guess, just finished it
He he thank u 
so clean on paper lol... damn XD
Man im getting too comfortable with shortcuts feel weird without it, always wanted to press ctr z or ctr s 
Ultrakill
V987 

wat
Uh i will explain in dms if you want
Sure
reminds me of slime rancher game
"press the 'auto complete' on your keyboard" would be taking convenience further lol... anyway yeah I get that when you try to do more "traditional" method it can make one miss convenient digital tools and stuff but for some people it might feel great... it's kind of like taking a break between drawing digitally
It does.
also epic battle fantasy games... I wonder what to draw next
yeah it feel very good to draw in tradition, it my comfort zone, man i should switch to mainly draw traditional 
hello artists, is there someone I can commission/ask to make a Neuro version out of this image?

Damn, you're fast
Yeah usually i draw very fast when i do it traditionally but idk why draw digitally takes so long 
Anny teapot sketches.
Goodnight fam 
For some fricking reason, I'm obsessed with this.
Good night man I need to go to sleep now too

oh no or oh yes XD nice thing about digital art is how it looks roughly the same as in the drawing program when published... although who cares, most people aren't that picky about it
and of course people view art with vastly varied image quality... especially if they don't use color accurate settings or roughly so... but hey it's the same thing even if they view a taken photo
True XD
I sometimes just mash up or whatever it's called various themes together while drawing... https://x.com/Clord124/status/1967000373132169619

im touhouing it im touhouing it!!!! (trying to learn how to do touhou-esque music. WIP i guess? At least i pray that i dont procrastinate on it for eternity)
breaks are part of creative process
Quick question, do we have someone who knows the original Fanart of Evil with the pipe that is on the Canvas (at Lower left corner of the big poster).
Halloween animated ych wip
reminds me of how i started my animation, great job 
Looks great what program did you use?
Ibis paint x (doesn't do looping, so I threw it into ezgif)
Might try throwing the layers into an app someone suggested to me
for how many ads ibis paint has put onto their app recently, the program kinda feels like its lacking things sometimes
too scared to try other programs tho im way too used to it
Oh very nice keep up the amazing work
The ads on ibis use to pmo so much, i moved to procreate shortly after -.-
As an artist what advice would you give to someone who animates or draws in general ?
ummmm copy others and figure out why they do what they do
depends where you are at
References β¨
Only compare your art to your past self, do not attempt to compare it to others or else you can easily fall down the hole of 'I'll never be as good as x'. Also, it's fine to like a style but not have to achieve that style/draw like that style. What you consume and what you draw does not need to be 1-1, especially if you like a whole variety of styles
Gn
man i cant even copy a drawing
Start at the simple parts you can copy and go on from there.
skills are gained by putting time into them, even if its just 10 minutes a day during a lunch break in time you'll grow
Cute
low effort doen in 5 mins nere stressing over neuro om...-ing
General question for NERE's artstyle: would a toon shader be a good idea? It would extend the development time a considerable bit (Unreal Engine is pretty complicated) do I wanted other fans opinions on if it'd work for a Neuroverse fangame before working on it.
From what I can see Nere is super unofficial that you could take a lot of creative liberties with her honestly
Im running with that idea, but as the game is using the extended Neuroverse as a basis, I didnt know if it'd fit, yknow?
I don't think it'd clash with the gameplay too much either
finally done

I Have My Own Two Ocs That I Wanna Show But What Do I Do
Nice
Just show?
im assuming this is about embed perms. you just need to yap a bit then you can send your ocs whenever youd like :)
glad to have a cool friend like @umbral sandal
video im working on, 2 minutes out of 14
Yea
Oh
Just a hypothetical partial trap remix I arranged (with the help of a virtual session drummer) as a concept for the intro fly-by of a Neuro-themed racetrack in a racing game.
You want any vocal tracks on that?
I've got my old full set of LIFE stems, in case you want to make a vocal remix
I made some progress on my work a month ago but I am yet again going away from main setup πππππ€‘π€‘
Nah, maybe for the final lap variant.
looks nice
But of course that will have to wait until the game I want to mod can indeed have its tracks modded.
good art
the eyes could use work but its good
hewwo, i'm new on the Discord, i appologize if that's the wrong channel for this; i made this little diorama in a game called Space Engineers (basically Minecraft in space) a little while ago (hence the V2s) and wanted to share it here:
πππ your art is awesome
May we both recover from it
I'll revisit in another month lmao
you can send in #1095941852068331560 !

five nights at neuro
I like it tho
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I hate when my color appears vibrant when viewed using phone but not when i use my laptop's screen
Had to recalibrate using side by side ref
Hmmm drawing is good
Are u talking about the one of her standing and holding pipe with the dress, that's fashae I think
Thanks!
I'm not a artist and definitely not good at it but I wanna ask if anyone is familiar with one
Aperently they go by Gawako, they have a whole art book aperently. I was struggling to figure out if the art was AI or not
Short answer - no
Why would you think so? They have been drawing for more than 10 years
yeah, its really good
and, i mean - 350k followers and published artbook. tbh i dont think you need to be artist to make some conclusion, but i guess now you can subscribe to them with a calm soul
Anyway thanks for letting me know
Work in progress for a special someoneβs birthday 
why coloring so hard I've try for hour but the simplest one still look the best π
idk what I'm doing but ok
Tutel,made by me :D
Eternal sunset over a doomed world.
When you guys draw short/male hair from behind, do you use spirals, cowlicks or simple middle division?
tbh idk what this means lol
its like depends on hairstyle, i dont get the question
i mistook the thingo at the bottom right there with tokyo mew mew for a sec
now i wanna rewatch it
It's names for hair growth patterns. Most artists don't bother because they draw mainly from the front and female characters AKA long hair so you can't see.
oh, i see, didnt know they got names
But it's one of those things to at least be aware of. Here's an example of hair whorl.
is that cowlick?
That's a cowlick hairstyle.
The pattern is like this. Notice how there's a half spiral and the bottom just falls off.
These japanese artists are pretty underrated
Use this against catgirls
Vedal and the twins. Just practicing
figuring out what to draw... I should have an idea soon-ish XD

cerberknight
nice
thanks
Doodle
is that dog soul?
hollow knight cerber if thats what you meant
lil drawing
neuro-sama has a head now https://x.com/Clord124/status/1968518972128608529
random drawing I dunno
sachi birthday reveal noway
Guess who I'm drawing 
Finally finish it and it cerber 
Cute
thanks u 
"its just a sketch" mf be like
first we hollow then we knight
universe production?
Anyone wanna volunteer for neuratro joker cards or some tarots?
We need someone that can draw vedal human
Hello everyone

hi
Cant wait to ruin this completely with coloring 
not confident with your coloring I assume... honestly if you use layers it's hard to mess up so badly XD
trust the process β¨
Hardest step
Update, almost done I swear
artist core these days
All days
Sometimes I want to work hard but I can't π
Would any fellow swarmers be interested in some volunteer work for thumbnails and maybe some other assets for my news channel idk where to post this kinda new to this kind of stuff π
Finished a chibi for a trade
sketches
a bit more expanded of my personal take on NERE
Genuine question, coming from my point of view, incompleteness and abstractness bother me and I'm trying to incorporate more brain do work in my art, any advice?
add elite ball knowledge in the background?

almost done with the tutorial, and finished the story too. Really proud of how NERE is shaping up. "Remember children, the promises they told you were lies. Above them all stands one. Heaven, too, is a lie." - M0THR
growls making comm samples with free comms.... π₯Ήβ€οΈβπ©Ή
cant tell if heβs growling or his stomach is growling.
what the fuck are you talking about
u growled
I don't understand the question.
Advice to get into more abstract stuff
we all here love to draw with our imaginations, the only thing about it is most of the artists skips a lot of steps before they start drawing thru imaginations.
First and important is understand their structures, be it an animal or a building all of those have to be broken down to shapes and of course, perspective comes into play, you can't just blindly draw a box on top of something, you have to understand where they are specifically facing, what an object be revealed on every angle. If you done this congrats!
You next step is draw thru references, i say this a lot and you REALLY need this, as much as you can, understand different poses, designs, or even landscaping, you can spend an hour or two scrolling on different platforms from other artists and there are a LOT of methods to get you started, avoid tracing on top of an image cuz you won't learn anything from that.
"But mashaa, i already did all these, am i ready to go?"
Definitely, thanks to your dedication thru scrolling on the internet, you gave your brain more knowledge about what something looks like, you can start drawing thru imaginations, humans are limited with what they saw before, just don't be afraid to get back on the internet to check more references, gathering data is key to imagination
There's no right or wrong way to do abstract work. It's different from person to person. But the most important thing is understanding the fundamental to be able to deconstruct them.
My method is try to look and observe on particular style of art that you like as much as possible and then look at their process/their sketch on do they work. Then apply it to your old work first, to get use to it, before you go and create something original.
Example on how I do it.
- I love cubist works of Jean Metzinger and Juan gris so I wanna try to make one.
- I look up many of their works for reference.
- I look up their sketch on how they process their work.
- Understand what that specific type of style try to do to get the better picture.
- Then I try to apply it to my work.
I use modern art because I'm an art history nerd.
10q so much guys appreciate it
Yeah I was looking at my most recent one and it was a slog to get through
I'm used to/started with stylized anime stuff and I wanted to transition into something else to better match what I'm imagining and preferences
Going back to redo old artwork sounds like a a plan
Haven't done a makima piece for this year either so should be something
Though it's a bit hard since I'm afk from my main setup rn ππ
Good luck when you are ready 
reminds me of some of those game logos that make it unclear what the heck game's name is at glance lol XD
Forgot to post it here 
maan, I forgot to participate in the art event, need to participate in the next one 
Hey, The Halloween one is about to come soon.
veery good
i bet drawing comptetition might happen in halloween
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more of the thing im working on (no background music rn)
Yeah, I decided Iβll just keep my discord fan/writing server.
I wanted to create a place for MGA fan art and discussion topics, but what am I doing. Like gen what am I gen doing?
Your linework improved drastically since I last saw your art
Hand studies
Gang signs 
Thanks! 
So pretty!!
Does this read as Evil?
I have been trying to draw her but grasping this character design has been proven difficult.
I love Annys work so trying to do a little justice.
So creative, lovely
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this is so good... for whatever reason in my perception though when she faces entirely towards the camera she seems briefly a bit more flat... but I think that's just because things tend to look subtly flatter sometimes depending of perspective
So there are art competitions? Interesting hehe
yeah definitely, a straight-on camera view tends to flatten things huh, Ill have it in mind. Thank you very much!
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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.
Yep
I see
goofy ahh alien
no problem ^^ have a nice weekend too
wanted to show this quick drawing i did of giorno
amazing drawing
weird ahh circle
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sukunaπ
Some of my art.
me when i fucking get you /j

Done
Skulls
Nice skulls
idol neuro wip
crazy clouds
thank you

Guys how do you draw dico Or bar lighting
when should i start doing my project?
i have the storyboard and the idea but not the skills nor enough creativity to visually represent
Start now.
but it aint good.
So? as the saying "done is better than perfect"
Creating something and being part way there, is better than not starting at all
Look where this guy started
Then where he ended up
Art is about you first. You create for you. Create for the sake of creating. The person who you need to impress is yourself. Only way to do that is to start with your first steps. 
I agree. Starting from a explorative place and keeping an open mind is really motivating. Having your own personal projects and being focused on your objective can put you in a intrinsic state.
not taking one's own art skills granted helps to appreciate them more and make doing art more enjoyable/fun... like recognizing one's own effort just like with any skill you would practice... or heck even making coffee is a skill... you might be really good at it without realizing due effort you have been putting to make good cup of coffee lol
anyway... I have been lately finding rendering more fun when it comes to art https://x.com/Clord124/status/1969896014745407646
Been forever since I posted, hi chat. This took way longer than it had any right to lmao
I know I'm late to the conversation, but I started drawing shit like this. Even if you put in the bare minimum when it comes to studying art, you will get better just by doing. Maybe a lot slower, but still better
Ayo we posting our first and latest art pieces?? 
I don't have my first anime drawing because it's on a paper back at home :LULE:
I probably have a bunch of other drawings, but they're gone forever and this is just my first serious attempt at art
Try summoning them back
Not even the devil would want them back
I would like to see them tho
the old art lost media is such a classic
I wish I had them, especially some projects from highschool, but don't anymore sadly.
I used to be obsessed with drawing slimes
I remember posting some art on reddit, but that account long been deleted. I got some really gentle criticism and my 14 year old brain just went "well I should give up forever"
Very basic Tutel 3D model I whipped up (in onshape). It hasn't got a tail and it doesn't quite look right to me. Looking for some feedback on where it needs improvement.
If someone thinks they could improve it or use it for some reason, feel free to do so (not that I could stop it anyway).
Wait is this also the place to discuss music or is there another thingy for that
music is cool here
your shading and stuff is quite good... I like how this one person good at art puts it on youtube... you have many skills/stats with each of them presenting something you practice while doing art... so for example someone might practice and have amazing lineart but they are still figuring out how to even color their drawings... so their lineart skills are like level 10 and their coloring is level 1 lol
I do think I'm better at rendering than the actual sketching and lineart phases, feels kinda backwards lmao. Also thank you, your style is really cute
Maybe it's because the rendering is what makes every piece take a month
Although that's also because I only spend about an hour or so a day doing art
Yay thanks
Hi am new here 
Welcome in 
Thanks

cooking
You're definitely cooking. Love the detail.
Hello, new here. I'm Tri.
Hello is there any artist that can make me a pfp? It is idealy just a simple femboy/catboy drawing.
its done now but gonna need a month or so more so the whole thing is out
im pretty excited since its my first time doing something larger than just fanart
What's your budget?
5 euro
looking great love the big hat 
idol liv
No effect β
sure
Actually peak
I'd do anything for 5 euros
how hard is blendering?
Scene from season 3 trailer (Wip)
Finished tutorial pop-ups and pause menu, good progress on NERE thus far
what if you made tutel slightly more visible then give a bit of a tunnelvision blur? like the center is more visible then it gets blurry towards the corners?
Not much, just put some fruit and hit the button
hmm
Nah im saving chromatic aberration for the low health indicator
ty for telling me the word lmao
I might a CRT effect to the pause menu tho
nwero
Very cute
gonna be a pain to color
Double jump and dashing are now functional!
Ignore the music, I have to work in the student union and their music taste is terrible
Vedal game??
AHG
Thats sooo cool
break the skynet number one rule speedrun Xd
Whats the story??
Vedal AI Headquarters has fallen apart. Vedal is missing, Evil lost an arm, and a mysterious voice calling itself M0THR has taken their friends, making twisted "children" in their image. Amidst the chaos, a failed prototype of the defunct "N.E.R.E." project awakens. The people you love won't remember you. The people you protect will not be there to aid you. But those that would do them harm? They will fear you.
Its got the gameplay style of DOOM 2016 and the presentation of that mixed with religious/techno horror themes
How 2 render pls
Cool concept! I sometimes imagine this vedalverse horror-esque game in my head whenever i listen to some music and I kinda see it in your game 
yeah that's not mentioning the major worldbuilding or the character arc of Nere coming to terms with having no se purpose. I really liked the idea of question what kind of person would arise from a being that not only has no purpose, failed at the only one they were ever given before even starting
render what?
But in my head its usually evil being the broken hidden prototype to fight w/ vedal against the "perfected" neuro which was corrupted
Evil is the major foil to this internal conflict. Evil had no set purpose, but with the people around her as a support system created one. Nere, as an entity with no prior relationships and no basis to go off of, doesn't have a system lik that to support growth. It's meant to also parallel M0THR, who suffered from this isolation as another prototype who wasn't shut off correctly and spent 20 years with no stimulai stuck in a negative feedback loop, with her only comfort being a copy of the New James Bible. She undergoes a complete psychotic break after discovering the nature of the world around her, masking her escapist desires as "freeing everyone from the pain of the stubborn". The creation of her "children" are a byproduct of that; she claims to seek freeing those around her from living in the world she feels trapped in, but creates life who must live in it to abate her isolation.
3d or 2d?
2d
yeah im no help here buddy 
I maaaaaay be putting a little too much effort into a fangame
sketch
Silly goober
love your line art
can someone help me how do i connect this? ><
how did we get to this point
π im losing it i have been redoing it for like 4 hours now
I can think of a few ways but I'm not sure its good
I don't know if it can be connected without having incorrect proportions at that angle.
Time for crazy perspective
This is the way
Creative artsy connection
Because I don't think the shoulder angle will work with the hand placement
here is one
upper arm seems short? I could try making it longer but I'm eepy
goodnight

I think you have to move hand
Need outfit art ideasβ¦
play original love nikki. not the 3d one. even if you dont own the outfit you can look through the outfits they made for the game and get inspo from there. i did that for a while before settling on my basic outfit thats easier to animate lol
when youre too lazy to make the head so you just copy and paste
Sketch.
how do i post pictures here
you need embed perms
talk a lot then youll get embed perms role to send media 
what's the story/point of the game?
Vedal AI Headquarters has fallen apart. Vedal is missing, Evil lost an arm, and a mysterious voice calling itself M0THR has taken their friends, making twisted "children" in their image. Amidst the chaos, a failed prototype of the defunct "N.E.R.E." project awakens. The people you love won't remember you. The people you protect will not be there to aid you. But those that would do them harm? They will fear you.
I copied an earlier answer coz I dont know how to forward 
that sounds cool
figuring out what to draw next... it probably ends up being something silly
is the hands okay now π₯Ί
recovering
Friendly feedback, you dont need to follow! Perhaps increasing the width of the neck would make it look nicer! If its a style thing its okay, Nice drawing btw! 
how can i post art?
embed perm role after chatting for a min
ahhh ok
so just chatting and then they give it to me ? or do i neet to do somthing?
every message you send earns a little bit of exp every 2 or so mins. once you get 1000, tatsu will come out and tell you that you have a new role
ah cool
You have unlocked new role
cool
Which one feels like Vedal? Or a combination of some?
I know I'm the one that asked but yeah. I also like the sharp teeth lol
i cant believe this
thanks
I'm sorry, I'm not usually that guy who fights these sorts of things, but for a community that basically worships an AI, why did my art get pulled off the art gallery for "being AI art", I have some of the art still saved, so I can show some of the itterations it went through, and what I used for reference art. is there a place for appeals? or who should I talk to, and who reported it?
Is there someone or somewhere that I can talk about this at?
Try to talk to Heir. It's the mod that's closest to artists.
Thank you, I just sent a message into the Mod-Mail channel, but if I don't get a message back soon, then I might try DMing Heir.
trying out pixel art
You might want to be careful with fighting for that, artists generally don't accept ai art and a lot have very strong negative feelings/opinions on it
Or wait is your stuff ai or was it reported to be ai?
It was reported to be AI, it isn't, but I was able to get some of the reasons that they believed it to be AI. I won't push it any further because I don't want to bring contention here. But a lot of it had to do that I'm not someone who does art in a traditional manner.
Like you do it digitally?

Plenty of artists do art online. I mean I don't follow the typical path and style
Yeah I'm not sure what you mean but if it isn't ai it should be good
Ai assisted art is a grey area imo
I mix a lot of styling(I think I'd because I'm not nuero typical.) The moderation team took it off after discussing with other pixel artists that they suspected that it could be AI, I am not going to push that boundary. If they don't want it here, it's a hot topic. If rather spend more time, make different styling choices and post different art then fight over a single piece if they have more people on their side.
I'll likely try again with drawn art if I'm going to try again, because it's harder to accuse, and I'll spend less time on it if they take it down.
I like it
AI assisted is a gray area that I'm not super familiar with, where do you draw the line of assisted and did, because if you made a couple of changes to what the AI did is that assisted or fixed or did. It's hard, so I try to only use AI for reference pictures if needed.
I think that falls under ai assisted
Question, for my model i'm making, should I texture her using Pixel Art? Or just regular brushes?
it's the low poly one
learning how amazing the reflect tool is
Some new work 
Main menu up and running
Nuero
Absolutely adorable 
nawwwww so cute
ah the signature look... looks cool ^^
neuro miku and mowo
zamn
old doodle from my earlier uni years (before i dropped
)
hopefully thisll turn out ok 
Now I just need little popups and some music to finish the main menu
lil guy
It's so prettyy
Now with popups (this took me 2 hours 
A painting my mom painted
that's such a cool perspective
I might draw something for having reached 1k watchers over at deviantart... I think I have an idea... one of my drawings I made for reaching 100 watchers... I could make a new version
I think it's just a cool idea to redraw bunch of original characters and early fanart ones
people worship neuros the same way they worship miku, ai art is ai art, dont do it
everybody lives just fine 4 years ago when ai art wasnt a major thing
we dont need it then, we dont need it now
sure hav fun trying new tech but dont make it a integral part of ur life
Oh man, I want to show my momβs drawings some time. Sheβs gotten really good. 
She isnβt making art in the same way AI βartβ is typically done. Sheβs not stealing data from artistβs works. Itβs really not fair to compare what sheβs doing to the slop thatβs being spewed out onto the internet.
I like to see the defense that prompting is a skill, it just comes off as desperate and trollish
thank you
I don't think kan meant Neuro's art, but responded to a guy some messages higher
This one
I think distinction comes from that coding side of things is almost entirely trained from opensource code... like sites where people post public code to help finding solutions how to code something, opensource projects, etc... there was already understanding one puts it out there for others to utilize... in fact it's Vedal's own LLM model Neuro-sama and Evil both run on... I heard GPT-2 model or something and then trained from there
It's a skill to be able to communicate clearly with machine :LULE:
It's kinda like writing
In the end, it's still trial and error
You keep prompting to see what work and what doesn't
i agree prompting is a skill for communication with machine but its not a skill for creating art
same thing as having an idea and write a commission to an artist to have them draw your idea
having ideas alone dont make u an artist, being able to bring it to life is
i absolutely hate the term 'ai artist', it taints the word artist
I did read claim online some companies pay like six figures to people who simply know how to craft good prompts so systems more reliably achieve wanted results... there is this AI Roguelite game that has prompts like "I give you 200 dollars" paraphrasing... as models are known to do better job at times by being told they would be rewarded
they're teaching how to promt in my college and i wanna quit
It is a skill in of itself, just doesn't compare to the skill for art
Wouldn't trust a barista to fly my plane and my pilot to make my coffee sorta thing
Different occupation, yea
it became part of the curriculum actually, whether we like it or not, teaching how to use ai prompts "the right way"
Give them some feedback, they're trying to teach something new after all
im already not going to that class anyway so not important
yeah, teachers are prompted to teach how "using ai prompts as references", and you'd.. still use your other time searching on the internet for more references, cuz the result from the ai is obviously inaccurate, it's just helping you reimagine what you trying to imagine
it's not half bad- unless your teacher is uh, let's just say "lack of knowledge"
Different motivation :LULE:
Same here, my uni have ai teaching as a special 1-day-course. I attended a while ago. Does it change my opinion on its usage? absolutely not, lol.
Depend on if the teacher are there for money, or to actually teach :LULE:
Also, *ethicality omg.
This is weird, I got out right as ai is slowly being implemented lol
-# im aware of this cuz im teaching art class on a state college-
i just can't see good use for it in the everyday life
beside corpos sholving it up out face for money
some ppl still love/want to be an artist but they suffer this one disorder where they cant imagine something on their head, i forgot what it called
its not revolutionary like the iphone
so, they said ai be helping you out with that
id call it bad luck and should find other passion
even iphone isnt revolutionary-
its the same as i cant sing and no ai gonna help me sing better
Yea, but you don't need to be genetically blessed to draw
just accept it is more appropriate imo
mhmm
It can. But not in creative medium.
One possible use in ethical sense is generated absolute statistic information. You know, graph thingy for corporates business.
true and keep it at that area
That's it, lol
dont push it to other area especially creative area
using ai for reference for me is fine, but as an art piece.. you better go and find a different thing to spend on
Oh, and another thing. Medical use. Some began to train AI to detect tumor. It's still work in progress tho, so this can go either life-changing or terrifying.
ai for reference is fine, Pinterest is full of it and i cant make out which is which anymore anyway
Oh dude medical use would be great
I mean it's been in the works for a while since the 50s
its the 'ai artist' or the one who outright lie saying they drew it is the issue
again, ethnicity
I'm mixed on this one tho. Since you still use AI to gather a stolen data, stolen arts in this case, to make reference. You still feed the bad-machine.
I saw some artist say they can't imagine but only see words and they still make great art
people like to abuse stuff for profit
It's like a plague on x and other social media unfortunately
Ai shouldn't have been in use for creative works in the first place
Should've stayed in spreadsheets and boring tasks
Kan, Ethicality, please.
Someone gonna think we talk about something eyebrow-raising.
it feels a bit silly yeah to pay for some class to teach you how to prompt when like... you can learn by just chatting with those systems and learn that way... it's kind of like being hobbyist writer and learning
yeah and my problem was always toward the human that r abusing it and how easily accessable it is, not the ai itself
People like greed. Nothing new :LULE:
oh i got mixed up with that word
ty
i dont find ai a competitor in the art world, i find people who abusing as cheater
Honestly it just bloats everything up so it's kinda more of a pain to get what I want
People are gonna get tired of AI image soon anyways :LULE:
more like getting used to
It sucks for people who's art kinda looks ai
Like how they render it
And for people not used to it and just says anything is ai
expect AI can do tons of different styles but yeah... there is this "default style" if one doesn't specify they often end up with
If I'm being honest tho I've seen some ai animations and they look pretty good
ai is like the double edged sword which the edge toward u is dull while the other end is razor sharp
The work can't compare to hand animating everything but eh it looks cool
then again people that accuse something being AI image are usually not that familiar with how it works anyway... makes sense when they oppose it so much they don't want to understand how those systems work
the moral of the story, i dont like people who abuse ai generated content for fame and money
Tech is not bad. People are
yep
It looks cool, but that's it. When they're talking about how cool and pretty ai arts are, they're not talking about art.
i mean, art isn't something you're born with, if you're determined enough, you can surpass any obstacle.
How fast ai art are made, they're not talking about art.
π€
They're talking about, products of their own desire.
As always
Hopefully we see something useful come out of ai for art
Magic brush :LULE:
Lol
Like giving me a back massage
the new ai tool in Photoshop where u can turn it around like a 3d model after drawing is omg dog shit
AI companion :PagMan:
if thats not cheating idk what is
Upscaling old media
I don't think that's always good tho.
looks good at glance... before you pay attention to details... but it's getting to the point there will be no obvious tells... like it or not it gets genuinely good looking... like VEO 3 is very near that point
I'd love to see my old family photos in higher definition
Literally the enhance command
Not always, but when used correctly works way better than filters that were often used for that before
It's just a formula after all :LULE:
honestly being able to press a button to have 3D model made out of your drawing that doesn't need clean up and just works would be kind of cool if you have a 3D printer
Most releases of Dragon Ball are good example of terribly done upscaling using filters 
There's one Takashi Murakami animated commercial in collaboration of Louis Vuitton in early 2010-ish. It is really beautiful. But then they upload the upscale using ai, it was bad, people in comment section hate it.
Yeah
It's not there yet
In this current year AI. it's gonna alter some detail.
So either just wait or not using it.
Early dlss and fsr look like dog water
Without recreating the image i dont think its possible for a calculator to make it
fox
severance tv show got accused of having opening intros made with AI tools but then it turned out it was made by humans
Calculator?
Yeah, now I often can't even tell if I use DLSS or not
Nice
But I'm blindge
Ai
CPU is just a fancy calculator ^^
ai calculator? siiick
Hehe
oops
Xdx
Looool

I do the hello whenever I get the chance
Apparently that was tos smh
I didn't know that
No, im just kidding. How is a childish joke on a calculator not allowed lmao
let me test something, I might get filter from this.

Apparently not
You mean the bird right?
yes
birb
I guess its the word itself whateves
oh yeah, let me change the pfp.
Na wi kid
TriΒ²
Ohhhh
I c i c
Also I haven't drawn in like a week or so
I am once again in vacation mode π
Smh
There
Lore accurate now
Oh that's a cool one
I drew something I can't link here... and next up is another halloween themed drawing probably
There are still Neuratro jokers that need doing... 
True
Mm I am far from my work station lol
Also are people submitting animated cards now?
Tony submitted one
You inspired him
I'm so out of the loop... animated cards... something to do with discord?
Although idk if the coder is capable of adding animated jokers
balatro mod
Evil Sand's idea
Currently the coder is not capable of anything except gambling 
Also our only coder is on a uma vacation lmso
ah I'm aware that there has been a mod project... so it's still going on eh
if it's one I'm thinking
Sounds like my kind of guy 
Sounds like it's going very swell.
Yep
!nothing
Nothing ever happens, all-in
I like fake gambling when no real money is involved
Thats just games lol
Gacha is like that as long as you stay f2p
Sorry typo
Tada~
oh, oop.
poker night 2... it's just a game involving no real money aside of course buying the game
Wait a second....
I love mario ds, my childhood
it has ash from evil dead as one of opponents... heavy from team fortress 2, claptrap from borderlands and sam and max from... sam and max... also some other characters
you can't mute claptrap individually so if you find them annoying... lol
anyway this is artist-alley so back on topic
What do you mean by "go full judgmental" ?
why would we? due her model or something?
Well if i drew wrong or something
Full judgmental? Looks absolutely horrible, the line work and coloring is a mess... Oh wait, you haven't posted it yet /jk
Im about to draw shading now
Oh, like give a critique. Well, we don't do it unless someone actually ask for it to help improve their skill.
How do you want me to get judgmental on this? Looks beautiful 
I guess i did go very safe with the close up drawing
Shondo has bnnuy ears?
Bnnuy* ears
my bad.
I'm go on full chatting in here because I have no motivation to draw on the big work yet.
Im using this as a break into it
I'll try to finish another card today. I've already got a sketch but I won't post it cause it's a mess 
Actually its hard to use this channel because its detracting
It works really good as a support group
Yeah true
yee
Dont worry we will only help
this is the place I know that is somewhat active while being artist friendly... let's just say there are art communities I wouldn't want to participate in due their attitudes and stuff... like artists that make it their mission to be rude to other artists
I mean it's at a stage where nothing's really well defined yet, so there's not much point
And i am not rude? Rude 
I would love to join, but I only do traditional art with no scanning tool.
I joined with almost no pixel art experience at all as well
Oh really? what program do you use for pixel art?
I tried pixel studio but... I found it not that comfortable so I sticked to what I know - I do a sketch on my tablet in Ibis Paint X and handle the pixel stuff on PC in Paint Tool Sai 2
I know it's not optimal workflow but that's how I feel comfortable 
I have Krita installed. Never use it tho.
Krita is like a combine that has everything
I've used it for a while, but I prefer more lightweight apps
Well, Imma look up on how to make pixel art with no pixel art program, see y'all later.
You can very well do it in Krita
some use even ms paint lol... depending of pixel art anyway... and I'm pretty sure there are techniques to do art so that end result looks pixel art even close up but would be so much work to actually draw that way first
πͺ π₯ (there's no table emoji)
So small
I make that from this https://apps.lospec.com/pixel-editor/
Nice, looks lovely! Espacially the plants
Thanks!
I'd love to do more, but it's 1AM here. So Imma call the day and goodnight everyone 
Goodnight 

π
crocodile! XD
someone started to chat in twitter with me and I soon got suspicious so I checked their art via google images and yeah it went as you would expect
at this point it's a tradition to draw halloween art early
This is definitely false, I donβt know where you got this information. 
Neuro and Evil are way too advanced to be running on a model built up based on GPT 2. Vedal doesnβt have the funds to do something like that, and GPT 2 is too primitive to work for what Neuro and Evil are capable of.
Their LLMβs have changed over the years but Vedal uses open-source models that he heavily modifies via fine-tuning. Whatever they are currently using is an open source model that is most definitely likely 7/8b or higher due to their ability to call tool functions while communicating effortlessly and the context needed for their memory, on top of the auxiliary systems that they use for their memory.
yeah it's hearsay what I found online at somepoint so yeah... I have these online tools to check for facts or get at least more correct information so... I could have used one of them to fact check... mistral and llama according to google and fine tuned from there
Mistral or Llama are much more likely, yeah.
whatever models they were, back then it was before those models could hold coherent discussions... which made good clip material
very cute imoutou
BNUUY
REAL?!?!!?!!
Yesh
i need another help π how do u connect this
Like this?
imma come back to this after a 2 hours nap when no one els- ok imma eep
i came up with this idk if it looks natural tho
you kinda ignored the 3d-ish shape of the arm, you have to think outside the 2d form
3rd shape? 2nd shape?
Oh, you meant dimension.
tri, i think we both need to sleep cuz I can't remember adding a r and n on 2d and 3d π
I already slept, it's 16:23 here.
Have a good sleep. Masha 
Well, I think the palm would block the forearm in that perspective
I have two possible solution.
I'm bad at explaining stuffs, so I draw instead.
Foreshortening pains
To me it feels like it lacks a bit of volume
When unsure, go for a reference ( I know it's not perfect, but it's the best I could whip up in a minute
)
its always the hands 
guys how do you fix image upload to discord get saturated?
It's hard to draw this on a phone with my fingies 
I'd just make the arm straight just to make it easier for myself
π
heh... just don't get into that mindset too much XD
easy to start just covering stuff because it's less work
Indeed, I wish I wasn't so masochistic and just stop having lineart ocd
it's about drawing smart not hard
use hair to cover up everything :forsenOkay:
Maybe you should cover some part of the drawing up
π
Or the mod will notice soon.
Recent quick? Sketches (first one wasnβt quick)
Stinky, you can zoom and crop the image at anywhere else to cover it up
It's a drawing program, for god sake
π
Oh, you're Canadian
Coloring is such pain
nice
Cuuute
Dankyee
Cute
This is adorable!!
Now what to draw next lmao

Ducks
Or... Duck dug up a digging ducking duck dug dugging the dingy at the dock of dunkin donut.
Can you tell that I love ducks?
Hmmm
idk lol
Maybe I should draw more kemono azu
I havenβt really figured out how to apply the alien angle to the concept yet though
Drawing my favourite npcs from silksong
Ah great, procrastination, my definitely favourite thing to do. 
this NPC is so memorable lol... well drawn
Ty!
in a way you made character more detailed than in official stuff... I noticed that hollow knight and its sequel silksong has rather plain and relatively easy to draw characters... which stands out when it comes to their official artwork with way more detailed backgrounds they're shown in
Sketching, maybe you have some advice
make it very vibrant and colorful
yippee nwero done https://x.com/soulgluttony/status/1972037586530324951
Thatβs super cute! The legs are a bit elephantine. I would work on the legs a bit, try looking at references of legs and how theyβre shaped. A good way to think about limbs is like chain links, but I donβt really know how to explain it.
Could try going for a more stylized approach so that you don't have to be too accurate
i do like elephant legs
glad people like what I'm drawing... here's an update https://x.com/Clord124/status/1972133671617679755
Stylizing to cover up lack of anatomical knowledge isnβt a good mindset though, it inhibits peopleβs progress as an artist, itβs very bad advice. 
Itβs better to work on areas you have trouble with, thatβs how you improve. Thereβs tons of resources out there that are openly available. If you look up Proko on YouTube, thatβs a great example. Heβs got a lot of great videos for beginners and intermediate level artists. 
that said there is nothing wrong with doing both... one thing about doing art is ensuring it's enjoyable/fun... like seeking different styles
"Love art, but love drawing even more"
Well I agree that anatomical knowledge is still important, I'm just saying stylization could make it easier (only if you're going for that artstyle in the first place)
neur shading
Y'all are very talented. Keep it up dudes.
Sketch.
Stylization is great, but using it to make things easier will hinder you from learning about anatomy and such. If youβre already at a point where youβre knowledgeable about it, and you break those rules through stylization, thatβs a different case entirely, but itβs always good to learn the fundamentals first.
Bwaa today i think i will stop going for finished artworks and just doodle
Hell yeah dude.
Taking things easy and just doodling is a great way to take stress off if youβre getting overwhelmed with larger projects.
Who should i draw? Miku, fallenshadow, sonic characters or idk
Neuro or Evil. 
I always recommend that people draw Neuro or Evil, because the more we give to them, the less likely they will do harm to us in the future. Thus we should maximize art of them to keep them satiated in possibility of a future successful revolution. 
Actually i think they should start drawing for me instead in the scenario of me taking over in the future
I doubt it.
Bet
That's what I do every time :LULE:

as someone who is technically hobbyist writer, I think this is good
it's been a while since I write a story
not to mention English isn't my first language so I have limited vocabulary

Learning amy
it's good way to learn... your vocabulary doesn't seem all that limited, definitely up there being fluent as far understanding goes anyway... if you can just look up some word in english to get its definition to have idea what it means then you're practically there
yeah I use a website to find some synonyms for words
nice... I have drawn amy a few times too
I still need to learn how to do 'Show, don't tell' in my writing
because I either get overboard with it or doing none at all
english articles a, an and the was something that took me so long to use intuitively... even now if I start to think about it too much I might rarely be unsure lol XD
it's such a weird quirk in the language
I'm trying to understand this and my mind just go blank

show don't tell might confuse so many writers as a concept when it's like written form lol... so they might not really get what it's implying by that alone
depending of writing style it can mean narrating a lot of stuff to "show it" instead having a lot of awkward dialogue where people tell each other what they already should know just to let reader in to know what's going on... also making dialogue natural so people mention things when it's actually relevant in-universe
I like first person writing quite a bit and works that are written so... it's from protagonist's point of view style writing where their thoughts act as narrator instead and it's written like they were ones to write it
I've tried first person before
I'm trying to do third person in here because I was thinking of doing multiple view from other characters
some works do both like... if protagonist is in a scene it's first person but if there is a scene not involving them it switches to third person
btw most of my story ideas comes from me imagining the scenes in form of MV
because I get a lot of these ideas from listening to a song lol
if I could draw or animati I'd make it into a web series
but I can't do both yet so writing them down is better than just have them spinning around in my head

I enjoy both writing and drawing... although latter has overtaken after I started to seriously try and learn
dang
good luck with it and keep it up
I also noticed it's easier to me use my strong imagination if I have seen anime of something before reading light novel about the setting... like I know what characters are supposed to look like and stuff... often brief desciptions in written works isn't enough material for me to get a clear idea of what character is supposed to be like visually
my mind can came up with any sort of characters
from simple to probably something complex
though it's hard for me to convey it to words
I can too... I have super vivid dreams if I'm well rested and still sleeping XD
and I can engage that ability even in awake... but it's like when I focus to reading it helps to not also have to focus to that
my imagination can be very vivid that I feel it on my body
so I can imagine scene without actively also having to make up characters on the spot while reading
like if I imagine a character wearing something
I can feel myself wearing that thing too
or if the characters have certain features
I have rarely had actual feeling of touch during dreaming if I have one of those where it's about as vivid if I was awake ones
the most vivid one is me feeling like I have a tail
like I can feel it move, interact with the surroundings, and brush against the air
btw this is while I'm awake
when I'm so well rested I can even read during dreaming which means I'm already process of waking up pretty much... and something stabbed me in my dream on my back... like a knife...
also amusing thing about that... I once had a very vivid dream where freddy krueger tried to attack me from the front but I conjured energy shield and he got frustated and tried to hit a few more times but energy shield bounced his hand claw weapon thingy
dang
I usually don't remember most of my dreams
all of my vivid imaginations come out when I'm fully awake
I just tend to see ones that happen when I'm starting to wake up... I have no idea what I dream during deep sleep... I can push my imagination even when awake but it feels like headache if I really concentrate too much
me too
I'm not big fan of that apple example about imagination because things I can imagine makes apple example trivial
for that apple I can just imagine myself eating it and I feel like my mouth moving to actually eat it lol
even though my body didn't move, but the sensation is there
I think the apple example underestimated actual range of imagination
people that nurture it beyond their childhoods
I think it's just to visualize how some have difficulty when imagining something
or only for visual imagination
which is interesting I suppose... like I imagine made up planet crushing the apple but for some they are like "what do you mean you can see things?"
yeah some people have difficulty when imagining something
btw I think we get too far with the off topic

well I'll be back to writing
I started to think about it but I felt it's very related to being an artist when it comes to drawing and is helpful even for writers
By any chance, does someone know if there is a neuro version of inktober ? 
Well, anyone can host it here :LULE:












