artist-alley

[uncut tundra]

It’s more uhh

Like to use an example I have, some people like HSR story maybe but the medium they use often being fully voiced lines is written so poorly it just drains your time

There’s so much redundancy in the way HSR dialogue does and over explaining to make it super time inefficient. Yet technically it’s not 100% bad because it drastically lowers the needed reading comprehension to understand what’s going on

[pearl plover]

mhm you're right I only noticed this during the moments where certain characters are unvoiced, is where I started to not enjoy the story personally

[uncut tundra]

I was going to get amother paragraph but uhh

To keep it shorter because I feel bad if I toss a paragraph…

[potent briar]

it looks good

[uncut tundra]

I think the style feels very fan fiction like. If you want I can explain the elements of what causes that but that’s long. I concincidently have a friend whose style is also like that for his original story so it’s not like the worst thing in the world. But first and foremost, something feeling like a fan fiction can ruin the seriousness of that was something you care about

As just an example, I don’t know if a scene like this as the intro, if this is the intro, would be what you want for the story. Since it looks like it exclusively shows their personalities as a baseline. A scene like that can work as an intro, just something something make sure it’s what you want

[main orchid]

really like your brush work with these.

[potent basalt]

nya https://puu.sh/Kvs9f/69cf0c6a3f.png

[patent quarry]

Hey Artist Alley I got a question for ya (草), Have you bought and used any art courses? Or are you a f2p user (bar any art programs)

[icy vale]

Latter

[mint root]

Latter

[patent quarry]

I always see them advertised, wondering if anyone buys them

[potent basalt]

I'm self learned so I'm in that latter camp too

[patent quarry]

Ah right I forgot about art school and colleges lol, don't count for this specific case

[potent basalt]

it's hard line to draw when it comes being self learned... like yeah I have watched a few art videos and stuff but not that extensively

I guess it comes down to I dictate what I draw

meanwhile if someone goes to extensive course where people are expected to follow directions very closely then it's opposite really... some teacher etc telling what to do instead... dictating what to draw

[patent quarry]

In retrospect it's very hard to get into art as a beginner since there's so much stuff you gotta learn

Takes fortune and strong tenacity to keep up consistancy

Never knew why drawing an apple was a definitive assignment till I realized it's for learning lighting among other things

[potent basalt]

in a way it's about balance... how person likes to learn, ensuring it's enough fun process, etc

so if I had to learn traditional way to do art I would have likely just given up lol XD

there are people who genuinely don't understand it if you tell them... like their min-maxed way of learning dictated by their teachers doesn't matter if person quits due it... or them following recommended methods while self learning cause someone to give up, making their way just not work to everyone who wants to learn art

honestly if I self reflect my schooling back in the day wasn't that enjoyable process so it's part of why I enjoy learning how I want to

[last herald]

daytime it is

like look at the difference between these 2

[main orchid]

will you be adding lights to the carnival rides?

[last herald]

probably

no not probably

Yes I will. I just hate greatly dislike dealing with lighting

[mint badge]

nice

[mint badge]

gotta change the colorspace

[last herald]

nah im sticking to night.

Thats the whole theme of it.

[mint badge]

[last herald]

I think imma take a day break before moving onto phase 2

[mint badge]

[iron flame]

drew my OC just thought it was neat sorry 🫤

[deep hornet]

CUte

[mint badge]

nice

[buoyant gorge]

thanks 🙏

[buoyant gorge]

thanks although i feel pretty rigid with my brush process. its not as free flowing as painters and i use the smudge tool more than brushes i feel 🫠

[plain kindle]

Plotting and scheming

[mint root]

I can't decide what to draw and all of my drafts have 2 or more people, I need a warm up so I want to draw a simple half body. Somebody choose between 1, 2, or 3

[potent briar]

1

[deep hornet]

Cute

[mint root]

Camila it is, thank you

[potent briar]

[limpid root]

[peak grail]

Wippers

[potent briar]

[jade quail]

why do i keep running into fellow viet people everywhere i go 🥀

[potent briar]

In big servers there are plenty

[jade quail]

in very small servers too, i get jumpscared every time

[potent briar]

True

[dreamy jolt]

yeah we are everywhere aren't we

[limpid lion]

@uncut tundra you are making a lot of good points and I appreciate your objective and subjective opinions. I also want to precise I am writing it like it's a ref point for and Comic book and not like it's a book. It's also an intro to the personality as you guess. the next part of the Prologue will be 2 years prior at the moment of the contract for the sponsorship so poeples can understand how neuro and evil could be real, then it move forward but one month before the Prologue and chapter one will begin. The story should follow a comic book slice of life style like Garfield. Of course I will need eventually to have panel drawn but for now I'll just focus on writing then I'll try to fix some of the redundancy and other things. Thanks for speaking out your mind that help a lot.

[last herald]

Gonna be a good one today

Figured out a major portion of the scripting.

[grave lichen]

Guage

[vestal bone]

Art

[grave lichen]

I write vertically

[whole iris]

i am struggling with backgrounds

[peak grail]

you could always not draw the background

abstract shapes + solid color my beloved

[whole iris]

i'm trying to get out of my comfort zone i usually avoid them like the plague

tutel sneak peek

[peak grail]

TUTEL!!!

[potent briar]

so cute

[whole iris]

i never draw him even though his model is so cute lol i figured i'd add him to the background for once

[uncut tundra]

ah, yeah medium matters a lot and a manga/comic style sounds like it’d work. I will still note though one the best things to do for writing is show not tell. I think telling your story efficiently no matter what medium or story it is if always great.

i’d give example stories but uhh, there’s no one good way to do it and it’s a range of what’s a good idea based on who you’re planning on telling the story to as before

[iron halo]

i just noticed a little something in one of my older drawings

[potent briar]

[whole iris]

uh oh

(i forget it all the time)

[patent quarry]

I forget to color it

[brittle sun]

bruh just posted the evilbwaa i made and its gonna outperform my latest art at this rate

[buoyant gorge]

this is why i can’t see lebron as the goat. Can’t even remember neuro’s hairpin smh

[potent basalt]

unfinished version of drawing performing better than finished one

just your usual algorithm stuff XD

[peak grail]

More wippers

If you get where this is from hi lets be friends

[last herald]

trying to light this has been an utter nightmare istg

I think this is 100% my least favorite portion

[wise egret]

I hate colour we will never be friend

(idk colour scheme)

What should I do to make the overall character not look so shitty...idk the colours at all especially the wires, I don't want too many bright colors to clash but idk..😭
I over add elements too, idk how people make balanced and aesthetically pleasing designs it's amazing

This was another attempt at finding colours that work (fail) ☹️

[patent quarry]

That looks pretty good imo, light pastelly less saturated colors

[slender spade]

Trying to do more cleaner lineart

I think i did somewhat alright

Still needs a bit more cleaning

And also adding a missing thruster

[main orchid]

what do you not like with lighting?

[potent basalt]

agent evil neuro https://puu.sh/Kvvuz/aea4c6674c.png

[icy vale]

Oh I almost forgot mine too, will fix that later lule

[worn river]

does anyone have a reference similar to this for neuro and evil but with their cat tails?

I swear I've seen it somewhere

[potent basalt]

done https://x.com/Clord124/status/1934800620202151957

Clord ✨ Looking for Artmoots ✨ (@Clord124)

Catgirl Evil Neuro as Agent Broken Heart. She's parachuting to a secret base of the supervillain known as Snapping Turtle also known as Vedal. Rumor is that they're related and she's a double agent! What a twist!!! #heartheartart #evilneuro #Neurosama #artmoots #Vtuber #catgirls

X · Jun 17, 2025, 2:29 AM

[queen arch]

wip centipede woman

two arm ver

[patent quarry]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1384424677681664062

[mint badge]

cloud

[whole iris]

oooh pretty

cozy weather

[mint badge]

but I got soaked in rain

do be cozy if you're not outside by the time it rains

[oblique badge]

In most cases no

Its allowed if thats like study and not detailed

I think

[cedar briar]

hmm.... there have been a lotta clouds recently

[jaunty quiver]

I'm so used to seeing you post blender renders~ I thought that pic was one

[mint badge]

I wish

[jaunty quiver]

I like how every blender user here focuses on different aspects of 3D design, like some focuses on character modelling and rigging, some focuses on map design, some focuses on photorealistic renders and so on~ just goes to show how much you can do with blender

[mint badge]

for now I'm not seeing video editing and 2D animations made in Blender

[mint badge]

I think these are the best scenery renders I've done, if you see anything better than these, then it's probably not made by me

[candid abyss]

I'm sorry, I know there's a text to explain but I didn't really get it...
What's the difference between this channel and #1095941852068331560 ?

[mint badge]

#1095941852068331560 is used to share your work, here we use #artist-alley to discuss or get critiques from your work

[slender swan]

So beautiful

[mint badge]

cloud enthusiast

[queen arch]

face jumpscare

[urban summit]

Murderer in Detective Conan be like:

[queen arch]

looks ugly as hell in viewport

[jaunty quiver]

Those are some good volumetric clouds

[jaunty quiver]

Custom normals is the way~

I used sphere normals for anime faces now~ & It looks really good with toon/npr shading, not ideal for photorealism however

[jaunty quiver]

Someone could try that~ I dont use the greasepencil thing myself

[queen arch]

haven't tried the spherize method yet, might try it soonish

time to search up some BACK references

[jaunty quiver]

Yeah it does look like one of them

[queen arch]

anatomy is anatomy

incredibles.png

[quiet relic]

i love that i understand the reference

[patent quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/that-one-vtuber-concert-vtuber-concert-vtuber-concert-stiff-vtuber-gif-12242604443848397648

[pearl plover]

neuro concert live

[deep hornet]

Real

[mint badge]

auto shade smooth moment

just put on subdivision surface modifier

it solves everything

[queen arch]

I did, + weighted normals

it looked better

but at cost of extra polys

[mint badge]

👍

worth it

[queen arch]

hum

[mint badge]

if you're not going to put it in production, make it as high-poly as possible

[potent basalt]

I think fromsoftware has ridiculously high poly assets they down sample to their games

when business model is about being able to reuse and reuse model work lol

[slender spade]

Leaving it like this for now since i do need to work on the rest

It does look somewhat better and cleaner than some other lineart I've done so far

[brittle sun]

Bruh the evilbwa i made in like 20 min doubled the views of my last evil art

[potent basalt]

yeah welcome to the internet... but seriously though... more you learn about how sites promote content less sense it makes

[slender spade]

A roll of the dice on whether or not it booms or not

[patent quarry]

I got a warning on my latest one for some reason

[deep hornet]

It is what it is

[whole iris]

i want to draw them in a ballroom kind of setting, i worked on their design and the "vibe". i'm happy with where it's going now i need a good angleview for the final piece

[deep hornet]

Look gorgeous

[whole iris]

thankyou

[cloud sky]

A warning for what?

[brittle sun]

Oh ye i love when twitter doesnt tell me when my art is too bloody and i just find out about it after 2 days with no views

[whole iris]

i didn't know this was a thing

damn

[oblique badge]

what??

[potent basalt]

I noticed some artists use substitutes to imply things like... instead making red blood they make what appears to be cake material XD

[icy garden]

i tried pen for the first time (camera refuses to capture the shading properly)

my god it butchered the entire shading setup

why tf is there a blue tint thats murdering the entire skin tone????????//

maybe this looks better

had to adjust iso wb and focus manually

[oblique badge]

pretty

[icy garden]

if anybody has any feedback/criticism please feel free to provide me with some

last time i drew reze it didnt go so good so im happy with how the line art was better on this one

[potent basalt]

I would have pointed out how her choker/collar looks sideways but then I googled about the character and seems it's how she keeps it

[patent quarry]

It just says warning for inappropriate?? When I click it it goes 404

[patent quarry]

For this one

[cloud sky]

Weird…

[potent basalt]

what error?

maybe I misunderstand what is being discussed but I clicked image and it shows fine and then even in browser

[icy garden]

yeah thats her trigger pin to blow up and turn into her devil form

[potent basalt]

I realized rather fast it's also intentionally kind of resembling how one pulls out a grenade pin

[icy garden]

now these two are the ones that are my best works, but still i wanted some advice on how i could improve them more

[icy garden]

yeah, cuz shes da bomb

[potent basalt]

yeah I did read something about that XD

[icy garden]

second one is low quality because i cant find the original paper i made it on for the life of me

where the fuck did it go

[potent basalt]

right one looks like drawn from breaking bad... unless I'm mistaken

[icy garden]

damn clutter monster at it again

[icy garden]

yes

first one is joji

[potent basalt]

I like immediately recognized them lol... walter white at least

[icy garden]

lol walter is everywhere

[raven wedge]

https://x.com/thefatum0/status/1935022299633406354

TheFatum (@thefatum0)

Mio

X · Jun 17, 2025, 5:10 PM

[patent quarry]

On Twitter I mean

Sorry I don't think I specified

[tacit jolt]

A cigarette a day keeps the depression at bay

[pearl plover]

PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK

[lyric pike]

listened to gut's theme while drawing this

[buoyant gorge]

ooh nice hatching and halftones

[brittle sun]

I did not consider the fact that I need to do water rendering for this

[icy vale]

o7

[thick gale]

this shit tall af

[oak nymph]

Awww cuteeeee

[nova gate]

Character I made for my rebrand

[potent forum]

Working on a new twitter banner

[potent briar]

wow thats so cool

[icy vale]

[oak nymph]

Work In Progress almost done lineart

[potent briar]

whoa thats gay

[nova gate]

Exactly

[deep hornet]

Damn

[iron flame]

the anime brainrot is real

its rick and morty fanart^

[potent briar]

Pretty style

[iron flame]

tyty!!

[urban summit]

city drawn on paper coffee cup.

[urban summit]

Nice ||Now draw gender swapped pickle Rick.||

[mint root]

Holy mother of details

I only did a draft yesterday but I finally got on the flow today and will finally be drawing stuff

[icy vale]

https://youtube.com/shorts/AGnJ5jSZhpw

[cerulean berry]

now add vedal at the top

anyways, progress on the goddess neuros

[thick gale]

we building Babylon tower with this one🔥 🔥 🔥 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[oblique badge]

Didnt know mini that strong lul

[thick gale]

requirements for being bottom

at the bottom*

mhm

[flat schooner]

Neuro - Goddess of Fate and Cookies

Evil - Goddess of Vengeance and Pipes

[thick gale]

Csp has sent an email that there is 60% off on 4.0

Looks like a spam lmao

[cerulean berry]

imagine using clip studio paint-

[cerulean berry]

fr tho

[lyric pike]

i drew a sami realistic mouth and found it somewhat scary

[wise egret]

..

Clipstudio 4.0 right after the other new version, that costs more money again though 😭

[coarse vale]

Practice

[potent basalt]

is that... a cat bird?

pr cat owl

[coarse vale]

Yes, hardest drawing i've ever done

Its not the full image tho... idk if i can post it here

[patent quarry]

Csp ex for animation worth?

Was thinking of using Krita lmao

[coarse vale]

LULE yeah making a nice mouth is hard

[wise egret]

No idea 😭 the new update seemingly added stuff to make it better (i have Pro? and can only animate 3 seconds idk)

why is it so pricy

[coarse vale]

They love money

[cerulean berry]

birt

[coarse vale]

If you are already used to drawing in Krita then animating shouldn't be that difficult since you are already used to Krita's layout mhm

and krita is free

[oblique badge]

maybe im wrong, but arent upper teeth in a different perspective?

i mean, this doesnt look scary to me

[coarse vale]

I understand now

It was the teeth

[brittle sun]

its mostly bcs it was showing the gums imo

drawing very detailed gums usually leads to a more scarier or creepier expression

[brittle sun]

also holy idk when I'll finish that. over the course of one night, i realized finishing this will probably take double the time i originally thought it would

[slender swan]

Take your time and cook as long as it takes. I'm sure it will be worth it

[lyric pike]

yeah, we're looking up her face so we can see the inner teeth as well

[potent briar]

its $10/year for ios for me but im using procreate and too lazy to change

[potent briar]

take your time no need to rush

[icy vale]

Tempted

[potent basalt]

yeah it's quite good deal

[patent quarry]

pro version defo worth 20 bucks?

for what it can provide

[potent briar]

yes

[urban summit]

See the original prices and I feel like I'm gonna fainted

[dark egret]

Even if you find it scary, I actually like it.

Though if your main style is anime, I think it's better used in close-ups.

[patent quarry]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1385128035023454298

[random osprey]

I finished this on my breaks at work Tuesday

[icy vale]

Imagine you just had a perfect amount of money a month ago for this csp 60% sale but you have no money at this time

[potent briar]

i think they go on sales like this every 3 months or so

[thick gale]

i just saw here a couple of people who've been waiting for the discount and sent it for them to know

[potent briar]

ty, good to notify others

[dreamy basalt]

:33 help me name her

ts i be doing with a test tmr i haven't studied for

[rich mason]

Mina?

[urban summit]

Time for my terrible naming convention.
I'd go with Clara S. Auria.
It's a pun name for the common goldfish species name in Latin Carassius Auratus

Or you can go with Auria, which means gold.

Or.....

https://tenor.com/view/mari-mari-smug-mari-smug-mari-mari-cat-face-mari-cat-face-phase-connect-gif-6204502909952973736

[potent basalt]

I like how her model doesn't really reflect her personality lol... it just makes what she says out of nowhere funnier

[oblique badge]

Yeah, like Neuro xd

[potent basalt]

indeed

[dark egret]

But what if brother?

Had another surge of inspiration just as I woke up lol

[mint badge]

I think the introduction of violin is too sharp, is that what you intended or will be improved

[peak grail]

yall whats the frequency that you guys forget to draw the buttons for neuro/evil

this happened too often for me and its either i notice it at the last second or i just forget completely

[dark egret]

I forget to draw the heart clip.

[peak grail]

i always draw it head first while doing the lineart for the hair so its just plastered there before i even forget lol

for the buttons tho... are a whole nother story for me to worry 😭

[ebon rivet]

I think I probably won't come back to this, it was mostly just practice, but I can see what you mean. However, it's intentional, but not in the way that I thought to myself "I will start the violin here because blah blah blah," more so I just kind of know it would give off a different vibe that I wasn't going for

[patent quarry]

i forget the hairclip buttons are suggestions

[warped mist]

Anyone has any tips for drawing hair, is it just lines in direction the hair goes?

[frigid wyvern]

It is a bit more complicated, since hair has volume. The idea is to think of them as simple, 3d shapes first and then add the hair texture to them

[warped mist]

hmm

interesting

[oblique badge]

it will be easier to give tips if you show us your drawing

[warped mist]

currently I'm thinking what I want to draw and how to draw it and I know that for me the hair is the hardest part so no drawing has been happening havent got time to do so

[cerulean lintel]

my hot take on hair is

you feel it

dont think

🔥

[warped mist]

I'm alright with line art not color

and I want it to stay that way i think drawing lines to make a good piece of art than the color

That is just my opinion on it I dont have any special program on my pc to paint heck I dont even own the thing to draw on

[mint badge]

all drawing problems essentially get turned into 3D wireframe breakdowns

but all 3D problems get turned into "Just look at more references" and "Make the shape in your head before making it"

[scenic hamlet]

Are there decent video editing programs? I have an OBS recording that is roughly a minute long - but it should be no more than 10-15 seconds, so all I wanna do is cut it into pieces. Where would I go? 😄

[mint badge]

capcut, blender, kdenlive, davinci resolve, premiere pro

[scenic hamlet]

blender? For regular video editing?

[lyric pike]

study

couldnt get the lines thinner

but not bad

[iron flame]

does anyone have a solution to clip mask a layer to a clip mask layer (

[peak grail]

group the first clip mask to a folder then clip mask that folder

[iron flame]

i dont see an option for that ;(

[night cradle]

Hello, since someone said that photography was allowed here I will post some of my pictures. Please choose which continent you would like.

Asia 1️⃣
NA 2️⃣
Europe (credits to Kamen) 3️⃣

Sample:

[long rune]

We are making a balatro mod, we got a lot of jokers that need artwork done. Anyone wanna help?

So far we made a lot of progress

[dreamy basalt]

THANKYOUUU

[dreamy basalt]

THANK YOU TOO!!

[coarse vale]

Before/after

[icy vale]

Nice render

[mint badge]

yea

works

[sinful fulcrum]

Cool

[opaque crest]

took this pic on Christmas, came out pretty nicely

[mint root]

Details, like alot of them.
Half of them is in the colors

[mint badge]

light pollution

[peak grail]

Wip

[nimble wren]

Real question because I don't want to risk anything, say I drew an OC of mine shirtless but still wearing pants and not doing anything lewd, and the point of this character being shirtless was to show his top surgery scars, would that be considered as NSFW still?.. really stupid question, I know, but again I just want to be careful

[mint badge]

is it a male

if yes no problem

[cedar briar]

males should hide their chests and naval

[urban summit]

It's up to the intent. I personally don't see it as a NSFW art but I can't say the same to this server.
If you hesitated that if your work is violated this server rules or not, you can contact mod by using Modmail in #contact-mods

[mint badge]

we show muscles we strong

[cedar briar]

nuh

[night cradle]

Since most of the support was for Asia I will be posting pictures of Asia.

[night cradle]

Would you all like more pictures from different continents?

[edgy axle]

Out off all these current ones you sent which one is your favourite?

[night cradle]

I really cannot decide, I feel they are all really pretty.

[edgy axle]

What about what place you had the most fun?

Out of all the pictures

[night cradle]

It would have to be on the tea mountains. Peak place hahahaha. (Get it?)

Lots of slides and glass bridges.

[edgy axle]

I see

[urban summit]

Oh my god, yes please.
These are so gorgeous.

[urban summit]

Cherrylly cute.

[pearl plover]

aww peak

[urban summit]

I'm out 🚪 🚶‍♂️

[nova gate]

Ty

[edgy axle]

Aww...

[edgy axle]

Yeah I do

[night cradle]

I’m glad you enjoy them.

[coarse vale]

Neur

[edgy axle]

What brush did you use?

[coarse vale]

For the lineart i just use this two

[solar ermine]

hmmm why would the be windows updates on a friday

[potent briar]

asdflkashflhsd sky sky sky i love the sky

[opaque crest]

some photos of Beijing

[potent basalt]

https://puu.sh/KvKgk/baa4d062bc.png

they're staring something

[nova gate]

Staring at you mean?

[waxen basin]

Progress

[potent basalt]

yeah... I just for whatever reason omitted a word

I think because I know some do it lol... but yeah staring at something sounds better

[nova gate]

Lol

It's nice art btw

[pulsar haven]

erm

[potent basalt]

lol

[potent basalt]

thanks... sometimes being an artist is like pain to butt as a hobby but so rewarding

[nova gate]

My art is kinda mid but I try lol

[glacial nova]

evi eating snail sketch i wanna color

[potent basalt]

your art is creative so it's not like it's bad or anything like that

[nova gate]

Thanks. I meant it's just not that high quality

[potent basalt]

I think artists tend to be too harsh when it comes to their own drawings or just lack ability to really judge them fairly

https://x.com/Clord124/status/1936223429742526574

Clord ✨ Looking for Artmoots ✨ (@Clord124)

WIP drawing. Just Evil Neuro and Neuro-sama holding hands. Catgirl power! #heartheartart #evilneuro #Neurosama #artmoots #Vtuber #catgirls

X · Jun 21, 2025, 12:43 AM

[loud python]

hi

[coarse vale]

Neur

[nova gate]

How did this take 26 HOURS??

[wide river]

did you lock in

[nova gate]

Apparently

[opaque crest]

some photos of KL

[steady tulip]

Born to eliv, forced to put the fries in the bag…

[peak grail]

im noticing a pattern where in every drawing i do of evil/neuro, their ages shift
like im having trouble finding that sweet spot of drawing them younger or at their teens 😔

[deep hornet]

Draw them mature :PauseMan:

[peak grail]

This new wip is the oldest ive depicted them and its not even intentional 😭

[peak grail]

that does make it more versatile now, huh

[potent basalt]

I draw them in "anime age" XD

[jovial vine]

I mean, even their actual models kinda contribute to that lol. Like, their previous models looked older than their current ones. The V2 models kinda just looked like typical anime girl models of unspecified generic age and could pass as basically anywhere from younger all the way to teenage. Whereas their current models have a lot more of a baby face and just look distinctly like wittle chiwdren...when we just see their upper body like usual in streams, but then seeing their whole models it just feels confusing again and mismatched because they're actually still way taller than what I'd expect given how young their faces and upper body look.

[peak grail]

dont worry, im reading allat

[formal gyro]

Can you give us the tldr?

[jovial vine]

Bro, it takes like 25 seconds to read lol.

[peak grail]

yeah thats exactly why im in this dilemma
they look tall, but their upper body definitely looks younger, especially since they're given bigger heads

[formal gyro]

I don't have enough patience to read anything, might work with tts

[peak grail]

(this is, obviously, challenging for someone that trained himself to draw characters aged 18-21)

[buoyant gorge]

i feel like that lends to flexibility no?

[peak grail]

v2modellooksolderbutcurrentlooksyoungbutwholebodyistall

[jovial vine]

True.

[jovial vine]

[peak grail]

we can always stick to how the source material actually is depicted

[buoyant gorge]

the twins are drawn in so many ways by so many artists. they could be drawn in almost any style and itd still feel like neuro and evil.

[jovial vine]

Seeing Hiyori immediately just made my brain go ARG-schizo-mode for a sec lol.

[peak grail]

has anyone drawn the twins in their 30s

[buoyant gorge]

hmm not that i can remember

sounds like a new venture for someone

[peak grail]

true!

[potent basalt]

yup while there are plenty of artists that try to replicate their official look very closely there are also plenty of artists that take so many liberties lol... which is cool in my opinion

[buoyant gorge]

yeah makes for fun distinct styles

personally i dont think ive ever drawn the twins the same style in any of my pieces before.

which i guess is both good and bad?

[jovial vine]

Yeah. Trying to draw them based on their V2 models will pretty much always result in them looking at least teenage, whereas trying to draw them based on V3 will just...be confusing and inconsistent depending on the zoom.

[peak grail]

doesnt help that if you search "neuro-sama" on google
the first result shows the v2 model

[buoyant gorge]

just mix and match. trial and error till u find a middle ground that works for u. that’s what i tried. still trying to find an aesthetic as well for the twins.

[long rune]

Hi guys

[peak grail]

henlo

[buoyant gorge]

hi sand. i see progress going well for your mod so far

[peak grail]

[long rune]

Yeah

We did a lot

[buoyant gorge]

yeah i see some crazy amount of art for the cards. looking great so far.

[icy vale]

im eepy, did too much brain thinking good night

[urban summit]

The owl looks so done with others bs, lol.

[opaque crest]

mood)

he's eepy, it was the middle of the day

[urban summit]

Make sense. But man, what a mood picture indeed.

[urban summit]

I like all of the pics. My favorites are the lantern alley, the owl, and the Petronaus towers.

[slender spade]

Still working but taking my time

[mint badge]

https://x.com/2969364x/status/1934584073059721379

Manchineel (@2969364x)

今日はドラゴンを描きました

X · Jun 16, 2025, 12:09 PM

I would've not guessed the draft behind it

lmaooo

I probably can't send it here though, you can find it from the artist's X profile

[deep hornet]

Penis Dragon :PagMan:

[mint badge]

[chrome stirrup]

going back to fundamentals again

[pulsar cosmos]

a relative of mine is asking if its okay for them to produce independent merch of neuro/evil, does anyone know what the rules are on this?

[patent quarry]

im not sure of the specifics but i(along with many others) bought some fan merch from an artist here like acrylics and stickers

[pulsar cosmos]

thanks, ill let them know o/

[patent quarry]

check around the merch channel for them

[pearl plover]

hysilens

[dark egret]

Pants or shorts?

[steady tulip]

U are kind of in a legal grey zone but most people are ok with it if it’s just something like selling merch at an artist alley.

[radiant grove]

New inspired drawing with Evil, i might finish today or later, i least wanted to put the idea on the paper the moment i thought about it

[oblique badge]

Sick

[patent quarry]

is there a consensus on making Neuro Ai Covers from vocals used in the original song or from other people's covers? im not as well versed in using vocal softwares

Nor am I a good singer 😭

[radiant grove]

thanks

[oblique badge]

Shorts imo

[sly lion]

I like the shorts more

[oblique badge]

Kinda equally to skirt since it's genderbender

[chrome stirrup]

drew this while crelly was streaming, managed to make her react to it

I'm going to study facial structure now

[potent basalt]

https://puu.sh/KvP9m/3275f73c6a.png

[potent basalt]

trying to make weird perspectives to work

[oak nymph]

That art is amazing

[peak grail]

Wip.

[deep hornet]

:pepeLaugh:

[long rune]

Need tips on the xdx im making

Like, i made it terrifying

But i just want it to be something else

I want it to be cute

[potent basalt]

it comes down to stuff like shapes

pointy teeth isn't good way to make things look cute generally

since humans are like "pointy teeth indicate dangerous"

same with eyes shaped like that due the expression and them being black

[long rune]

I see, so there is a lot of mashup needed for this creature

Very good points

I will start with the eyes

[potent basalt]

one good example is the movie version of that clown from IT

once the clown shows those pointy teeth he's so dangerous looking

but before then he looks kind of cute-ish

[long rune]

Ok gotcha, make xdx silly and whimsical and not killer

[dreamy basalt]

rah

original artist for the template deleted it or smth bcz i can't find it on their twitter

plus my friends (very picasso)

[mint badge]

Minecraft photography

Kappa shader looks insane

I like the atmosphere of it, it's approximating actual atmospheric equations, and the clouds have 3 layers as well

[pearl plover]

EM ART MY FAVORITE

[quartz mortar]

can't finish anything rn cuz i am in pain so old drawing :)

[quartz mortar]

Ok now im frickin confused did I send this before?

Cuz there a fragment of memories that said I did

[oblique badge]

No

At least not here

[median pilot]

WIP heeeheee i wanted to try the moe style and they were the first characters i could think of

characters? people?? 😭 😭😭

if it looks traced it's because this was my sketch 💀

[queen arch]

random sketch

was actually sculpting a susge model and had to alt tab when my parents came in

[edgy axle]

Is it better? Or no?
Before and after btw

[potent basalt]

that's a hard one... left has nice sky

[mint badge]

I certainly love the color grading, will be better only if I took that screenshot with less bloom on the sun

[edgy axle]

I see
I'm glad you liked it

[mint badge]

the sky color is maked by the contrast though

[mint badge]

might need a little tweak

[naive crane]

does music count as art because there is no music channel?

[edgy axle]

[edgy axle]

Sure

[naive crane]

k

[cerulean lintel]

tried making this perspective line thing idk what theyre called still need some time to improve it

[median pilot]

UR SO COOL

[median pilot]

i got lazy

[long rune]

"Neuro help, im not shaded"

[median pilot]

HAHAHAHAHHA

nuru help am not renderd

[potent basalt]

reminds me how I like to shade base color for skin with red to make it look like there is blood circulation lol

[median pilot]

unfortunately i usually draw traditionally 😭😭🥹 so i never color

its almost 3 i should sleep …

[night cradle]

Sorry for the delay everyone. I will be posting them today.

[potent basalt]

so dark souls / elden ring

[thick gale]

work in progress

[dreamy basalt]

[mint badge]

why did you take a screenshot of your canvas instead of exporting

[potent basalt]

I use ShareX to take quick images so I think it makes sense for people to do it XD

[quartz mortar]

trying to design a flag.
specifically a authoritarian looking one.

[potent basalt]

then I think that's a good start

[thick gale]

I always do this, is there a difference?

[dark egret]

@oblique badge @sly lion Yeah shorts were the right call. Here's the comparison.

[real beacon]

Any ideas what more alcoholic turtle theme I can add?

[sleek hazel]

more of the turtle shell pattern on some parts of his clothes might be cool

[sly lion]

fire

[potent basalt]

things like night skies are quite nice as they're so fast to draw https://x.com/Clord124/status/1936979815216943398

Clord ✨ Looking for Artmoots ✨ (@Clord124)

Evil Neuro and Neuro-sama are stargazing. The view is so amazing that they can't help but get a bit excited about it. Well worth the effort to go to a remote location away from London. Or maybe they're in Tokyo. #heartheartart #evilneuro #Neurosama #artmoots #Vtuber #catgirls

X · Jun 23, 2025, 2:49 AM

[night cradle]

North America pictures, as I promised.

[night cradle]

If you guys enjoy these pictures I have museums, caves, and more. Would you all want more NA pictures or venture into EU?
NA: 1️⃣
EU: 2️⃣

[real beacon]

THANKS

saw this and immediately thought EVIL

then here's Neuro found next project

[mint root]

Last one, her design is quite intimidating. Neuro's design is kind of simple and I forget to draw things sometimes. Fortunately rendering is the easiest part

[potent briar]

whoa looks good

[queen arch]

progress has been made

[high apex]

wait wasnt it a centipede?

[grave lichen]

koishi komeji

[deep hornet]

Cute

Love that artstyle

[queen arch]

I decided to make variants

Don't have clothes for the other ones so I can't share them here 😭

[mint badge]

resolutions... not really a big issue

[mint badge]

clouds

[queen arch]

starting to look good

[lapis rose]

spider women

Technically she has 2 torsos

[high apex]

Cool

[quartz mortar]

background is pain
(there like 40 layers of just line )

[potent basalt]

I have not thought about this before...

spiders don't have torsos

[mint badge]

wooo toon shader

[opaque crest]

today's work

[potent basalt]

lol thought about warhammer 40k

[peak grail]

Wipppppppppppppppppp

[nova gate]

That looks insane

[main orchid]

I like the picture of that one bridge.

[night cradle]

The bridge is located at Peoria, Illinois.

Feel free to check it out yourself!

[main orchid]

It's the iconic landmark in that town. That and a few other spots.

[night cradle]

Yes, I was there for the IESA Chess competition. Rather nice Civic Center they have.

[scenic adder]

oh is this a reference to a Tuyu song?

nice work

[hollow grotto]

MONKA

Looks really cool

[peak grail]

You're one of the firsts to mention this, given I've literally been drawing neuro and evil as tuyu songs for the past week :D

[scenic adder]

kinda surprising, i guess there is not that many tuyu fans here

[buoyant gorge]

drew angel

[halcyon echo]

playing with smol lightning

[long rune]

Hi guys
The mod is going smoothly but we got more work to do, i wanted to showcase that

Anyone to volunteer to do a card is welcome

Open party

[vale kindle]

Id like to but i probably won’t be able to draw till next month or so

[long rune]

We been doing this for a month now

[oak pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291703742290464768/1386942547158368256/image.png?ex=685b8a67&is=685a38e7&hm=905015081e860cb4bb41b015524343e12b02d77ae86a8389dfe58d9b5f390783& wip

[potent basalt]

people really like that game... osu

[deep hornet]

Well, there's just a lot of osu players here :LULE:

[slender swan]

I'd like to volunteer. Dunno if I'm good enough, but I could at least try

[long rune]

Oh?

Sure thing

[mint badge]

now draw biblically accurate ones

[potent briar]

Whoa looks so nice

[robust warren]

yepppp

[queen arch]

dithering is my new best friend

[queen arch]

asserts dominance

[quartz mortar]

got lazy at the end so i just use super basic shading

[oak pond]

tbh idk what to add or do for the bottom right panel;

it feels so empty

[queen arch]

final image for the day

I need to: add gold highlights to the spider butt thingy

retopo body

finish hair

and rig it all

[dark egret]

I dunno about you guys but I always thought my art looked off compared to most others in the same style.

And while you could say I'm inexperienced, I noticed something actually different.

I try to follow normal human proportions. Anime girl foreheads are massive. Lmao

[frigid wyvern]

I get it. I constantly mix anime features with realistic ones without much thought

[austere beacon]

Very nice. Love the shading and use of colors. The way that periwinkle blue pops out as shadows in comparison to the bright red background is really nice.

[potent basalt]

https://puu.sh/KvXLi/aa9704ffa5.png

[oak pond]

tbf neuro started as an osu bot

[potent basalt]

yeah ^^ also osu is simply just wildly popular

https://puu.sh/KvXQW/ee3d62305b.png

[oak pond]

https://fixupx.com/nyupenyuart/status/1937557379786375505

NyuPenyu | #FreePalestine (@nyupenyuart)

my submission for the fantasy world art contest! its just random scenarios or something idk
︀︀
︀︀took me 13 hours 30 mins so its kinda nice
︀︀
︀︀#art #illustration #osufanart

**👁️ 2 **

FixupX · Jun 24, 2025, 5:04 PM

done

[scenic adder]

osu in artist alley

[oak pond]

[cerulean lintel]

there will be the day i see this art in my osu backgrou- IS THAT TETO PEAR?!?!?!!

[brittle sun]

hyped for evil og song, hyped for p5x

[pearl plover]

PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAKPEAKK

[potent basalt]

https://puu.sh/KvZ3E/e42a4ffee3.png

[night cradle]

Europe, as requested (again, I got these from a trade with another member so credits to Kamen).

[icy vale]

The time where the sun is setting is the most magical thing Ive seen

Nice pictures

They are nice references too for bgs

[mint badge]

ohh the first one gave me inspirations

[night cradle]

I do not take credit for any of these pictures. Me and Kamen simply traded pictures of the night for pictures of day.

[vocal egret]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxlpwjDfqfm4R5sTGqFxXBcuu-q-Mt3m03?si=3a99Cn776BkMUoe3

clip of Mariano improving Evil's puppet for animation

[waxen basin]

i hope this counts as art, basically my very first sprite

for the game people playground

[coarse swan]

Nice

[waxen basin]

Thank you!

[cunning harbor]

tips on drawing the twins? I'm really not an artist but i want to have cat gifs of them, or well- redraw the cats as the twins but my hands aren't hand-ing so any words of wisdom to make it easier and make it actually look like them?

[icy vale]

paccha artstyle!

[oak pond]

hell yea

[potent basalt]

totally not cursed pickle

[potent basalt]

of course it counts as art ^^ pixel art is its own challenge especially when it comes to really low resolution looking stuff

[icy vale]

i think i did the side hair good enough

[quartz mortar]

Redesigning my first ever oc
The head look weird but i cant figure out what it is
(also i cant come up with good original hair design )

[quartz mortar]

Holy background this is peak

[lyric pike]

i photoshoped a bunch of photos together then drew over it

[deep hornet]

Nice

[pearl plover]

video editing. I'm editing down my footage of deltarune chapter 3 but I made a stupid intro for the hell of it + funny (considering I said chapter 3 spoilers btw )

||https://files.catbox.moe/vttm5x.mp4||

no nitro sadge

[frigid wyvern]

Do you often use special tools and shortcuts to paint backgrounds? I just want insight on the process as I'm not that experienced with backgrounds

[potent forum]

Some warmups this morning!

[quartz mortar]

i fix the head (i think)

[lyric pike]

i use the default DM pen, leaves brushes and line-drawing tool

[night crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNRtjaJnSIs my art i made

[quartz mortar]

Artist when OC

[haughty echo]

masterpiece

[brittle sun]

too busy to finish stuff rn

[deep hornet]

Good luck

[leaden ivy]

shit got me back on the mspaint grind

[night cradle]

That looks remarkably good, keep at it!

[hollow grotto]

So cutee

[hollow grotto]

I have no idea of what are you doing, but i want to help, what do i do?

[long rune]

Hi

Hold on im gonna ping you there

[leaden ivy]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1387552516937351351 is done now lol

[icy vale]

finally finished lineart time to thicken some lines and color and im done

[buoyant gorge]

finally working on tarots again. made the hanged man tarot card

[icy vale]

Holy

[wind ether]

crazy

[uncut tundra]

[icy vale]

My wrist hurts erm

[night cradle]

Is there a reason why?

[icy vale]

Idk I just finished linearting and it started

[uncut tundra]

you should stretch your wrists... now! ⚡

[potent basalt]

definitely it's a good way to avoid wrist injury

I mean in general it's good idea to stop and let wrist rest if it's warning you way earlier

[urban summit]

A concept drawing that I might not finish it.

[cerulean lintel]

trying to find a way to paint

[quartz mortar]

New Vs Old

[undone dust]

i'm dying ngl I don't have a brush that can do mold, do you guys have mold brush?

[potent briar]

hey un can any one give me idea of how i am gonna draw a character i want

[mint root]

Have you decided which character?

[potent briar]

Idk i drew this in my head some ultrakill art the under the v1 is my idea but i an too bad at it

[mint root]

You are making one?

[potent briar]

i am trying to

i though i would be idk maybe try to think of a character for my future projects?

[mint root]

Try to center it around something, like a theme

[potent briar]

oh

okay

i was just trying to test my self in drawing

i am not that good at drawing

[mint root]

I did think of designing a character aswell but I focused on my drawing skill firat

Yeah being able to illustrate it helps alot

[potent briar]

oh like focusing on improve drawing and like how to draw the lines

[mint root]

Just full on character drawing, anatomy, clothes hairstyle, etc.

I also drew as much as I can of different characters everytime to have an understanding of different character designs

[potent briar]

yeah i was trying to i had ideas in my head like weapons style the hair style for example i wanted to well be ash blonde green eyes something like a necromancer shooter

[mint root]

Oh thats good, it would be good to find references for the specifics

[potent briar]

idk i wanted some tips of how i can illustrate it

yeah i was trying to idk like how do yall do it?

i see some ppl uses kira uhh drawing app?

[mint root]

You illustrate how you do every other ones really, but since you are designing you can do it in a character sheet style to really see the design

The drawing app doesn't really matter too much, but you can try different ones. Maybe you'll find one you like

[potent briar]

oh i see

really thanks for the tip

[potent basalt]

if you try to figure it out by online comments expect conflicitng information like... for some people it's about if the program is free, is there monthly fee, is it single pay and then just keep updating, etc... for some it's about quality of the program regardless fees

like I use photoshop but my reasoning isn't really one I can much use to recommend it to others... I just got used to it

[potent briar]

to be honest i am trying to make my game character thats in my head to be honest i am a coder not an artist but idk i would love some tips of how i can illustrate it

[potent basalt]

well depending how skilled you're at drawing what you want to achieve then you're looking for months to years of practice... but taking account my personal bias about the subject I would say it's well worth it to learn on hindsight... if you have enough motivation then it's just about figuring out some drawing tool and over time learn its functions while drawing and drawing

[iron halo]

i dont know why it took me seeing this to realize i could do those harmonizing effects in synthesizer v first before dragging it all into a DAW

i feel kind of dumb now

[patent quarry]

Ayo this is cool

I've been trying to make a cover myself of another song 😔 super hard tho

[iron halo]

same

been workin on one for a while now

first time doing anything music related

[patent quarry]

The past few days have been soemthing lmao

[lofty sage]

working on cover is my bread and butter

[patent quarry]

Do you rvc it with Neuro voice?

/evil

[oak hamlet]

RVC is boring, NeuroSynth is the future

[patent quarry]

Synth v basic is super limiting lol

[lofty sage]

i refuse to use pure gen AI workflow

[patent quarry]

But I have been playing around with your and whisper stuff so thank you

[oak hamlet]

NeuroSynth is fully free and built on an open-source tech stack

[patent quarry]

Its the thing that's not making me buy synth v rn

[oak hamlet]

Silly

[patent quarry]

Is it out already?

[oak hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1HNHqSdGW4
Already sounds very good in case you haven't heard this before
Still in BETA though

[patent quarry]

I have been amazed

I was trying to make synth v basic plus rvc sound nice but there's some quirks in my stuff

Along with beginner mustakes

[oak hamlet]

That cover of Raise up your bat is pure NeuroSynth, no RVC to be heard

[patent quarry]

Here's a Neuro cover but I've been told it sounds too much like teto

[oak hamlet]

What base voice?

[patent quarry]

Can't wait for it

[iron halo]

this def just sounds like teto

[patent quarry]

^

Yeah 😔

[oak hamlet]

Teto base? That explains why it sounds like Teto
RVC literally just copies the base voice features and changes a few things

[iron halo]

or is that the purely teto version

[patent quarry]

I have had some more luck with Evil's cover

Somewhat

[oak hamlet]

Solaria is the best SynthV voice to use as a base for RVC

[patent quarry]

How do I change out the American accent

[oak hamlet]

Tuning I guess

[patent quarry]

Mmmmmmmmm

[iron halo]

are yall experienced at all with mixing?

[oak hamlet]

Either way, you don't really need to worry about SynthV if you can stay patient for NeuroSynth
I'm soon gonna have better hardware for training so that'll speed things up and improve quality

[oak hamlet]

I have some

[patent quarry]

Baw

[oak hamlet]

I mixed the cover here

[iron halo]

i really went into this completely blind with just some youtube tutorials so i might hit yall up for help

[patent quarry]

I'll try very hard, I don't consider myself very patient loool

[lofty sage]

i've been doing mixing work since mid 2010s

[iron halo]

[patent quarry]

Oo cool

[oak hamlet]

Azaka certainly has a lot of experience

I mainly just specialize in making Neuro stuff

[iron halo]

itd be cool to learn animation too and make an entire music video all on my own

[patent quarry]

Tbh I should've just sang the song myself

[oak hamlet]

I assume something simple and not crazy like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jWOyIcKz98

[iron halo]

maybe a touch ambitious but im not one to back down from a challenge

[lofty sage]

i just outsource all of my MVs

[haughty echo]

ur gonna burn yourself out calm down

[oak hamlet]

(that's like 50 people on a single MV)

[patent quarry]

Mmm ambition prevents such things

[lofty sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APW9ZqhZLmg

[iron halo]

trust me i keep my expectations in check and pace myself

and im not above asking for help so ill be fine

an idea i had is remaking the animation for the ED im making a cover of

[oak hamlet]

The tuning could use some improvement

[iron halo]

but thats not gonna happen right now

[patent quarry]

I rvc'd neuro's version of teto for that one

[cerulean lintel]

that one pinterest post came to mind

[oak hamlet]

Well, you shouldn't RVC over something that already has been RVC'd, there's quality loss there

[cerulean lintel]

ive drawn 3 things today my hands are nearly about to crack

[patent quarry]

I learned that the hard way

I was gonna rvc someone's Acapella cover I found or the original singer's isolated vocals but I wasn't sure how people felt about that

[oak hamlet]

That usually doesn't result in good quality without cleanup

[patent quarry]

The vocals sound better and more human tho

The voice banks have a tell and I'm not good enough to get rid of them yet

[oak hamlet]

We in the RVC space call using a non-synthetic vocal "raw-RVC", 99% of the time it sounds like garbage

[lofty sage]

you just need the experience of tuning them

[patent quarry]

Yeah

[oak hamlet]

Yeah, vocal synthesizers can sound very human with good tuning

Even my fairly beginner tuning on NeuroSynth sounds fairly reasonable in Raise up your bat

[patent quarry]

I've tried out the gumi trial on synthv trial

Sounds very good compared to the one I'm using rn

[patent quarry]

Aww can't wait

[lofty sage]

you eventually get the hang of it over the years

[patent quarry]

This one used "raw-rvc"

Iirc it's been a few days since I worked on it

[oak hamlet]

Sounds somewhat broken

Did you de-echo and denoise before RVC?

And remove any backing vocals?

Mainly going based on the strange pitch jumps all over the place, that stuff is not normal

[patent quarry]

I think I did

[oak hamlet]

Overall not the worst I've hard, but not very good either

My best attempt at raw-RVC

[iron halo]

oh shit

[patent quarry]

Should I just sing it 💀 then rvc

[iron halo]

are you finnish

[oak hamlet]

Yes

[iron halo]

:DDDD

same

[oak hamlet]

Silly

[oak hamlet]

That is a method some people have had success with

[oak hamlet]

(Finnish Neuro worked suprisingly well, I wonder if we could include this synthetically in NeuroSynth)

[iron halo]

that is pretty good finnish yeah

and still sounds like neuro

[oak hamlet]

The story behind that is quite silly, one day I just heard that specific song and it sounded like it'd be highly suitable for raw-RVC (I've developed an ear for good RVC bases) and then that's what came out of it

[iron halo]

[patent quarry]

I'm not sure if I'm skilled enough to tune in synth v in the time frame I gave myself

[iron halo]

did you give yourself a deadline

[oak hamlet]

It took me a couple months or so to finally get something actually good out of NeuroSynth

[patent quarry]

Yeah, it's just in line with my motivation and willpower for a specific project before I get bored of it

[iron halo]

i see

[patent quarry]

Another raw-rvc

[iron halo]

me personally i would just take my time and make it as good as i can

[patent quarry]

I have other projects and responsibilities that's why lol

[oak hamlet]

Sounds like the base was not suitable

[iron halo]

ive been at it on and off for like over a month with this one cover

i have loads of other stuff going on too

like i gotta finish the covers art

[patent quarry]

This one was a pure Acapella version with no backing instruments

[oak hamlet]

Was there reverb?

[iron halo]

i like to jump between projects

[patent quarry]

A little

[oak hamlet]

There should be no reverb in a usable raw-RVC base

I typically use UVR to remove such artifacts

[iron halo]

what daws do yall use for mixing and such

[patent quarry]

I have been using my CPU for these stuff 💀

FL studio

[oak hamlet]

LMMS

[patent quarry]

Ai progrnas haven't been kind to my GPU

[oak hamlet]

Can't afford those expensive fancy DAWs

[oak hamlet]

What GPU?

[patent quarry]

5080

[iron halo]

i picked up ableton intro when my trial ran out and felt extremely scammed when eq 8 wasnt in it

-80€

[oak hamlet]

WHUH
That thing should be able to run anything just fine

[iron halo]

dude i wish i had a 5080

[patent quarry]

I've read somewhere that pytorch wasn't compatible with 50 series or soemthing?

[oak hamlet]

I'm getting a 3090, gonna be better for my usecase than a 5080 because more VRAM

[oak hamlet]

Pretty sure it should work just fine

[iron halo]

i run llama 3.2 on a amd cpu and 32gb of ram for my discord bot

[patent quarry]

And I wasn't keen enough to do some patch work or stuff

[iron halo]

30s latency

[patent quarry]

Every time I try my PC black screens and crashed

Also I get a notice that it doesn't work on the program itself

Applio

[iron halo]

give me your 5080

[patent quarry]

No

[iron halo]

[oak hamlet]

Do you have the drivers installed?

[patent quarry]

Yeah

[oak hamlet]

Maybe try an older version then? There's no way 50 series is incompatible with CUDA

Wait

Do you have CUDA installed?

[patent quarry]

Oh I don't think so

[oak hamlet]

You need CUDA installed to run CUDA applications

[patent quarry]

Tho I don't think cuda will help my tuning sound better

[oak hamlet]

It won't, but it'll let you inference like 50x faster on all the AI parts

NeuroSynth on my 4070Ti runs at literally real-time speeds

[iron halo]

how much faster is AI stuff on gpus compared to cpu and ram

i havent gotten to try it

[patent quarry]

Yeah I've read it doesn't really work without more technical stuff?

Do I need pytorch?

[oak hamlet]

Depends on the GPU and CPU, but comparing my 12700K to my 4070Ti it's significantly faster, though depends on architecture

[iron halo]

i gotta get me a nvidia gpu

i have a amd with 8gb vram

[oak hamlet]

You may need to sometimes manually install PyTorch but often things can figure that part out automatically

[iron halo]

[oak hamlet]

That should still be able to accelrate inference

[iron halo]

i should try it

[oak hamlet]

llama.cpp should support AMD

[iron halo]

i do recall running into cuda related issues though

[oak hamlet]

It has like 7 ML backends just to support everything

[oak hamlet]

Because AMD has no CUDA

[iron halo]

yeah exactly

realistically though if i wanna do AI stuff i ought to just get an nvidia gpu

[patent quarry]

Maybe I'll just wait for Neuro synth

[oak hamlet]

Get a 3090 if you want a good value machine learning GPU

24GB VRAM, performance comparable to 4070 super, bandwidth almost as good as 4090

And can be paired with a second one for double training performance

[oak hamlet]

Well, hopefully development will go faster once I get my hands on a 3090

[iron halo]

how much are those these days

[patent quarry]

1k last I saw

[oak hamlet]

Well, I found one for 500€

[iron halo]

good 2 gens behind so surely cheap

[patent quarry]

That's what I thoguht when I got my 5080

[oak hamlet]

5080 isn't even faster than 4090

[patent quarry]

I wasn't gonna spend 2k for 4090 or 3k for a 5090

[iron halo]

i cant find a 3090 in my stores

[patent quarry]

I got mine msrp

[oak hamlet]

Can't get new, you need to get it used

[iron halo]

oh

tori.fi it is

[oak hamlet]

I've fairly regularly seen 3090s going for around 650€ there

[iron halo]

think this will do?

[oak hamlet]

I think that might not be a GPU, not sure

[iron halo]

ill have to ask

[oak hamlet]

Anyway, I can't wait to see what everyone ends up using NeuroSynth for, I'm certain it'll be the next big thing in fanmade Neuro covers, Raise up your bat is already showing it to be extremely promising

[oak hamlet]

Unusually high prices

[patent quarry]

Yeah I was right, still 1k

[iron halo]

what other options are good

without bankrupting me

[patent quarry]

3060 12gb?

[oak hamlet]

For ML, there isn't really anything as good as 3090, but 3060 12GB commonly goes for around 200€

12GB is highly limiting though

[patent quarry]

2 gpu

[iron halo]

more than what i have at the moment

[oak hamlet]

This is exceptionally cheap for this model of GPU

[patent quarry]

5080 is enough for me since I was gonna explore using blender and unreal engine for art stuff

[iron halo]

i just got my holiday pay and it would cover that easily

real tempted

not particularly looking forward to the swap between brands though

[oak hamlet]

5080 is like crazy, that thing can do a ton of stuff

[iron halo]

i had so many issues going from nvidia to amd and only a reinstall of windows ever fixed it

[patent quarry]

I mainly use it for video gem

[oak hamlet]

Meanwhile me when Windows died: Linux Mint

[patent quarry]

Is there any tips to make synth v voice banks sound realistic ?

I've been scratching my head about it

[oak hamlet]

It's mostly just experience
But you can get somewhere by trying to figure out how you need to bend the pitch curve at note transitions, as well as how to properly use vibrato

[patent quarry]

I've just been trying to mimick the original vocals

[oak hamlet]

When I tune NeuroSynth I primarily focus on what NeuroSynth sounds like rather than the original vocal, if there even is an original vocal

Like Raise up your bat doesn't even have an original vocal

[patent quarry]

I'll try with solaria

[iron halo]

is the 4060 any good?

this one in particular

[patent quarry]

I've seen it's just a 3060

[iron halo]

400€ isnt that horrible for me at the moment

[patent quarry]

With frame gen

[iron halo]

i think i could sell my current gpu too

its not that old

get back like a 100 bucks or so

[oak hamlet]

Scam, worse than 3060Ti