artist-alley

[cloud sky]

Opinions are divided on it

[lyric pike]

its okay im not gonna post it lol

[brittle sun]

Horns

[tiny escarp]

wip but this is how i feel watching streamers when im sick and barely awake

[chrome stirrup]

the only actual one is his bodysuit form

and the moneka design

[sleek apex]

Okie dokie

Thank you!

I'm drawing something for an art timelapse video tomorrow and I wanted to give him a cute turtleshell backpack and an open zip-up hoodie instead of his regular one

But didn't want to deviate too much >w<

[chrome stirrup]

feel free to add your own spin! there's no actual "canon"

I personally like the ones where he has a black turtleneck under the green hoodie

also glasses

[brittle sun]

[icy vale]

Wrong chat

[chrome stirrup]

sleep pls

[tiny escarp]

[chrome stirrup]

my sibling in oily joshua you might start seeing things if you get sleep deprived

[tiny escarp]

ill be so fr i have never been not sleep deprived

the entirety of last month was just 2 hours constantly

[chrome stirrup]

time to hit the melatonin

[tiny escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1309587661941510236/evil_meds.gif

[chrome stirrup]

lmao imagine repaying all that sleep debt in one sleep

you wake up a day or two after

[tiny escarp]

i think yhats just called death 😭

[chrome stirrup]

no see you wake up after

[tiny escarp]

even worse,,,,

[icy vale]

I need an overdose amount fr fr

[tiny escarp]

RWAL

!!

[urban summit]

You good, Sleep?

[chrome stirrup]

actual sleep deprivation

well good luck to God's sleepiest soldier

[tiny escarp]

been feeling better recently, sickness is subsiding

I keep taking melatoning but i keep getting woken up like 2 hour later anyways

[urban summit]

I don't think taking melatonin works that great.

[tiny escarp]

melatonin is ok!! it just makes it so your body produces more of the eepy hormone, thuogh overdosing is obviously bad

no better option anyways

[urban summit]

You actually need to sleep with no screen, no light, no sound. no med, no sure-fire remedy. Let your natural body resting phase that care of it.

[tiny escarp]

impossible for me, my mental illnesses will take over, dont worry though I'll be okay <3

[steady tulip]

Just take a baseball bat and knock yourself out (don’t listen to me)

[urban summit]

Oh dear.

[tiny escarp]

true true!!

(im listening)

[urban summit]

I hope you have a good rest tho. Please go to sleep

[tiny escarp]

I WILL!! do my best!

[chrome stirrup]

damn it it's hard to draw with a tablet without a display

even if the pen is much better on the intuos

[stuck ravine]

Small sketch but my creation found a new friend

[dense granite]

is traditional art allowed here?

[oblique badge]

any kind of art

[dense granite]

alr tnx

[sleek apex]

my tutel design with a cute shell backpack

[stuck ravine]

Oo, coming along nicely it seems!

[sleek apex]

Yeah! I think I'll be able to finish this tomorrow ✨

One more fan art before they come back

When I post the final doodle on the art channel, is it alright to post a youtube video of my timelapse in the comments? Or is that against self-promo rules?

[oblique badge]

it is alright

[chrome stirrup]

i mean as long as you don't say "join my patreon" or something

[lyric pike]

im so fked

[chrome stirrup]

hi kan

why?

[lyric pike]

woke up late ate late skipped work

all of the above to excuse to play tft

went 8th back to back to back

sajj

[urban summit]

Kan, you can't be serious

[lyric pike]

im mad not becus i go 8th

im mad cus i go 8th while skipping work

[brittle sun]

skipping work just to go 8th

x3

[lyric pike]

x3 looking like an emote used for mocking i thought u sent xdd

[urban summit]

Oh, I thought you meant that you skipped your work for the 8th times to play tft.

Both my hands were up on and against my head in disbelief.
I'm so sorry, I misunderstood that.

[lyric pike]

its the same thing dw about it

im balding playing that pos game

[lofty sage]

[urban summit]

Metal Sonic

[long rune]

what if metal sonic was neuors #1 fan lol

[oblique badge]

shadow #1 evil fan

[urban summit]

I thought Neuro was like a fan of Sonic..... while eating Mcdonalds.

[long rune]

haha, neuro is getting a happy meal toy of metal sonic

[urban summit]

Yeah, I can imagine that were a case🤔

[long rune]

would be cute to see them both being fans of each other

like metal sonic in neuro merch and lava lamp connected to him

and neuro with a sonic hat

[urban summit]

I don't think Metal would be fond of Sonic stuffs. Cuz Sonic is Metal Sonic's rival.

[long rune]

yeah i meant metal sonic hat lol

[urban summit]

Ah, I'm geeking out about Sonic,

[long rune]

more please

this is a friendly discussion

[stuck ravine]

This Metal Sonic talk got me looking for these SMBZ doodles I made like… 2 years ago? I should redo em.

[long rune]

duuuude i love the smbz

[stuck ravine]

LETS GOOO

[long rune]

it was peak, when i was a kid

[urban summit]

Characters that featured the most in the Mcdonald's happy meal toy that I remember, are Sonic, Tail, Knuckles, and Eggman. Other after the 2010, I don't remember.

[stuck ravine]

Hugest inspiration for me as an artist lmao

Where I got my love for sprite art

[long rune]

this one pose mecha sonic did

wait let me find it

[urban summit]

Sicks, that'd be cool if you do redraw them.

[tiny badge]

did an art. its probobly not as good as other stuff here but still thought id share it for others to see and maby enjoy idk

made my pfp, that turned out cool and then i evolved it into this one

[long rune]

sooo badass

[stuck ravine]

Metalix is my guilty pleasure

[tiny badge]

usually i dont do just one arm but i couldnt find a way to add the other arm without it looking jank

or other hand rather

usually i dont do floating hands either. this is a real weird one for me lol

[long rune]

i like the mecha sonic design more

but fair

[urban summit]

Despite being Sonic fan, I've never draw any single Sonic art. I'd draw them, but my current one is still not finish yet.

[urban summit]

Oh yes, Mecha Sonic. 🤝

[long rune]

dude i just did my first art

you SHOULD

:now:

man, i love like-minded people

[urban summit]

I'm still stuck with my current one. It was put on hold for two months and I determent to finish it. It's been like 5 days since I start to get back to it and It's still not done

[long rune]

alright man, no worries its understandable we are all always busy with something right?

true for me too

[urban summit]

Yep

Imma go back on finishing it. See y'all later

[long rune]

goodbye!

[icy vale]

[stuck ravine]

Ok but this is pretty nice so far

Helping out a friend with a snippet of music. They asked to create a small melody for their bassline and I came up with this.

It’s simple but

[livid plume]

Dats adorwble

[icy vale]

Thanks

[livid plume]

Np!

[coarse vale]

[livid plume]

I should probably draw more drawings. Possibly more neuro.

[icy vale]

Nice melody sounds like an old school game sounstrack

[stuck ravine]

Thank you!

Speaking of old school game OSTs

I dunno if I shared this one here

Aw dang, can’t send it via mobile

[potent briar]

https://x.com/emptiart/status/1888925887103459595?s=61&t=mqZdMuptwNhjhjmfLs-trg

Emptiart (@Emptiart) on X

#MarvelRivals #MarvelRivalsfanart
Casual Magik

X · Feb 10, 2025, 12:20 PM

[cold breach]

i have a question

i just posted an artwork to the forum thing. would i be allowed to link a timelapse video i made or would it be considered advertisement

[sleek apex]

I asked the same question earlier and people said it was fine

[cold breach]

ok cool

[jovial berry]

What is art

(Like what are the guidelines for what can be posted to art channels)

That may be a weird question im sorry, im autistic lol

[oblique badge]

any kind

paintings, music, crafting, 3d models etc

[jovial berry]

Choclate? Like writitng and stuff

[oblique badge]

yeah

[jovial berry]

Nice

No alaboration

I promise i can actually do something decent too

[icy vale]

ball

[deep hornet]

Clean

Very shiny ball you have there

[lunar ridge]

ball

[icy vale]

two balls

now to make artists mald

[potent basalt]

two majestic balls... lol... anyway on more serious note it can be nice way to examplify how a simulated lighting method behaves

[tiny escarp]

idk if i wanna render this fully or just slap on some grayscale and gradient maps and call it a day lol

[deep hornet]

Just gray scale it

[chrome stirrup]

[tiny escarp]

so real for this

[deep hornet]

I never colored any of my sketches :LULE:

Well, maybe using some colored pen

[tiny escarp]

[deep hornet]

I'm still not there yet

[tiny escarp]

you got this

TRU!!

[rain oriole]

i might start drawing again tomorrow

i just need to learn those damn eyelashes from mika pikazo

[livid plume]

So I tried to use the pre-installed paint app on my pc to draw Neuro, rather than drawing with pencil and paper like I usually do, and I think neuro is missing a few chromosomes.

Wtf have I done?

[potent basalt]

now this is like ms paint like art... not that this is probably actual ms paint art XD

it's just oddly... pure I suppose

[icy vale]

Cute neuro

Similar to what funni draws, keep it up keep practicing

[livid plume]

I think imma stick with pencil and paper from now on, and erase this neuro drawing off the face of the planet.

[rain oriole]

erm

[potent basalt]

funny though... it's thick like camel's neck... the neck part ^^

[livid plume]

[potent basalt]

I meant giraffe but camel works better I think lol ^^

[icy vale]

Frfr, when I tried my first ever drawing on tablet I draw shittily, nothing beats the classic pencil and paper

[livid plume]

Agreed.

[rain oriole]

ngl i didnt have problems i think when i first tried digital

[icy vale]

What u used? The graphic tablet with the screen?

[rain oriole]

no

im not that rich

[icy vale]

Lmao

[oblique badge]

It's the opposite for me, I've never been able to draw traditionally, so I didn't do it. But when I recently decided to try digital, it turns out I can draw lol

[rain oriole]

tru i became better at drawing in digital

[livid plume]

Interesting

[deep hornet]

Anyways here's a quick Neuro. By quick, I mean 1h or so LULE

[livid plume]

🔥

[ashen valley]

Cute

[deep hornet]

ty

[deep hornet]

Here's another one of my many sketches.

[strong pier]

Hollow Technique: Purple is created when the repulsive forces of Red are combined with the attractive forces of Blue, bringing forth imaginary mass.

[placid sky]

i dont see a problem what so ever

[iron halo]

where did the past month go

i gotta get back on it

[soft gorge]

majestic Indeed, more so than my paint doodles

[stuck ravine]

finally, fuck, got this one comm over with

old man yaoi

[livid plume]

Idk if I'd call it "majestic", it's not really a good drawing, just something I scribbled.

[livid plume]

Who are those guys? Also nice drawing 👍

[brittle sun]

still have a few hours left

[thick gale]

ganbare

[stuck ravine]

Peppino Spaghetti (Left) from hit indie game wario-like of 2023, Pizza Tower, and Dynamite Anton (Right) of hit indie game wario-like of 2024, Antonblast

[livid plume]

I thought the one on the left looked familiar, but I wasn't sure.

[stuck ravine]

Now that I got no comms, I am free as a bird to draw whatever I want now

Might do an Evil sketch sometime soon

[tiny escarp]

gotta have to speedrun this for the camila contest, at least I dont feel as sick now

[placid sky]

i fel ya on the speed running thing

[potent basalt]

lol

I think for people that lack context it will be weird why there is a turtle XD

[tiny escarp]

[livid plume]

What's the context?

[lofty kernel]

Day 3: quickly tried to squeeze more practice in on lunch today. Hope y'all like it!

[oak flower]

That's awesome. Gonna be an amazing artist

[potent basalt]

way you draw the eye is pretty similar to my digital art... I know it's not that I have that orignal style but still... cool ^^

having a line under eye... I noticed a lot of people don't generally draw it that way but I'm one of those who tend to do so thinking it looks good

[lofty kernel]

I though it looked really cool so wanted to give it a try. Glad to have squeezed in a little practice on my break.

[lofty kernel]

Thank you so much!!!

[stuck ravine]

Currently in the process of redesigning a character for my game

I wanna strike a fine balance between Vampire Bat and Death Demon so

Getting there w/ the right one at least

[lofty kernel]

It looks great!

[stuck ravine]

Thank you!

[steady tulip]

Back on the neuro grind

[weary vine]

That looks soo good

[stuck ravine]

CLEAN

CUTE!

[clever hinge]

hi artist chat i drew neuro on my english annotations

[oblique badge]

holy moley

[weary vine]

Bazinga

[brittle sun]

Made it with 1 hour and 40 min to spare

now back to doing exam prep

[lofty kernel]

I love this

[cunning verge]

is someone here interested in one piece here?

[austere beacon]

“Bazinga!”
“Holy Moley!”

I’m really curious what kind of person the professor/teacher who is reviewing your work is.

Cute Neuro drawing though!

[heavy shale]

Is there a contest going on rn?

[tiny escarp]

yup!! https://x.com/cumilq/status/1887934849857765875

camila 🃏 🍥 (@cumilq) on X

🍥 ART CONTEST 🍥

enter here → #impofhearts

spread the word, thank you ! ♡

X · Feb 7, 2025, 6:41 PM

[potent briar]

Love the artwork

[potent briar]

Super cute family portrait

[potent briar]

Super cute

[potent briar]

Beautiful

[sleek apex]

I finished it!
I challenged myself to complete it before Vedal came back from the milk store

[heavy shale]

Oh, wow. Not gonna meet the deadline then 😅

[placid sky]

I mean you still got some time

I literally started this yesterday

[frozen plover]

WIP i meant to finish like 3-4 days ago but now school suddenly ramped up and I don't have any free time

[tardy frost]

drew one of my ocs

[vapid oasis]

Yarnsune miku wip

Ahhhh transparent

[inner stirrup]

idk if anyone here messes with uma musume... i love my anime horse girls fr

[lunar garden]

I know about them, but I have not really watched them

[halcyon echo]

Working on a little customization for my plasma ball 😄

[azure nebula]

👀 Is that going to be attached to the front?

[halcyon echo]

yeah just gotta 3D print and paint the model

As soon as I find the flash drive for my printer. Wish my printer had WiFi XD

[oblique badge]

I like the bow lol

[rain oriole]

i think im missing something

why are the eyelashes so hard to copy

[oblique badge]

It turned out well, I would have extended the eye from below and made shadow darker

Maybe that's why you feel like you missed something idk

[rain oriole]

hm maybe it is the eyelashes lemme make it darker

oh yeah there nice it looks better

i could probably start drawing evil in mika pikazo's style now

[rain oriole]

yeah looks good

[buoyant gorge]

Wanted to say hi here to fellow artists. New to this Discord. Finally worked up enough confidence to actually try to join chats here.

[lunar garden]

hi again

[buoyant gorge]

oh hello again 😆.

[lunar garden]

you a artist?

[ocean pier]

Hi !

[lunar garden]

digital?

[wide steeple]

Can I drop CAD in here

[cloud sky]

yeah

[wide steeple]

Art is subjective, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[cloud sky]

ooohhh

[wide steeple]

I just doxed myself

[cloud sky]

ah

lol

dw this channel doesnt get a lot of foot traffic this time of the night

[buoyant gorge]

yep! I a artist

[lunar garden]

its daytime over here tho

[solemn heath]

You have unlocked new role

[buoyant gorge]

yeah, procreate specifically

[upper gull]

Magolor

[lunar garden]

oh nice, i mostly do traditional

[buoyant gorge]

O cool. What kind of medium? i like traditional too, though I use it mostly for my art studies.

I feel like my proportions are always off if I didn’t have my adjustment tools in digital

[lunar garden]

its due to my school so its mostly still life and nature, i am now try to make anime chara drawings that i am seeing

[upper gull]

I use krita to make stuff lol

[buoyant gorge]

i feel like im going the opposite route. i draw a lot of anime, but recently i’ve been trying to include more nature and still life backgrounds. I want to get better at implied texture in my shading of backgrounds.

[buoyant gorge]

if it works for u, that’s all u need.

[lunar garden]

lol, due to school, I have always been doing still life and nature, I haven't really ever done humans or anime characters

[buoyant gorge]

your style’s really cute.

i like it

[upper gull]

Thanks

[buoyant gorge]

I see. Hopefully you’ll get more time soon. Character arts are pretty fun.

[halcyon echo]

oh yee meant to share earlier, my main artistic endeavor the past year, holography XD

[buoyant gorge]

plus this is a good way to segue into drawing more Neuro

[lunar garden]

yeah, I have always wanted to learn it

[wide steeple]

I have done that it is fun

[lunar garden]

yup I wish I could

[vapid oasis]

CUTEEE

[buoyant gorge]

Excal’s art tip shorts are a perfect channel resource on YouTube if you want quick and easy character knowledge.

[lunar garden]

nice

[buoyant gorge]

I refer to him all the time

for practice

[upper gull]

more random pokemon art lol

[halcyon echo]

🤩

[upper gull]

Thanks!

[lunar garden]

ok, I will look into it

[buoyant gorge]

how does that even work? Is it like a series of images inside or something?

[vapid oasis]

You are very cool

[lunar garden]

I feel like I can still draw them, but I would have to look at someone else's work to do it

[buoyant gorge]

yeah, same for me. i needs my references.

[wide steeple]

They are eight hours away, though in a box full of lenses

[lunar garden]

I am doing my first one (took permission) it's half done but I would say it doesn't look too bad

[buoyant gorge]

Yay! Would love to see it once its finished , if that’s okay

[halcyon echo]

Special insanely high resolution film, and a special insanely narrow band laser, captures the way light reflects off an object so that the image appears 3D

Its a very physics heavy subject

[buoyant gorge]

geez, that sounds hard to make, although there’s probably a program to set up the image or something so maybe its not as difficult as im imagining it.

[lunar garden]

let's see how it turns out, tho that face and all stills feels out of my league

[halcyon echo]

Its all analog 😉

[buoyant gorge]

you got this!

[buoyant gorge]

what in the pro?

[halcyon echo]

Making a hologram is pretty much entirely an analog process

[lunar garden]

thanks

[halcyon echo]

Unless you got big $$$$ for a digital hologram system

Like, 7 digits big $$$

[buoyant gorge]

u must have the hand stability of a statue. that sounds crazy.

[halcyon echo]

oh its all on a isolation setup

[buoyant gorge]

oh i see

[halcyon echo]

Us meatbags cant sit still enough for holography

XD

Half a wavelegth of light movement is all it takes to spoil a hologram exposure

its..,fun

[buoyant gorge]

sounds fun. that’s crazy. that’s actually crazy.

[halcyon echo]

its bonkers

Its kinda fun though, a lot of my other skills tie into it nicely

[lunar garden]

reminds me of physics

[halcyon echo]

Like the skull for that watch, I modeled it, 3D printed it, and cast it in pewter

[wide steeple]

I did my physics 2 third exam on my phone while driving

[buoyant gorge]

i always liked the idea of a hobby that ties multiple skills together.

[halcyon echo]

Cuz you gotta have a phyiscal object to make a hologram of it

[halcyon echo]

its extrodinarily physics heavy

[lunar garden]

doing lab experiments at home like with chemicals

[halcyon echo]

oh yeah theres chemistry too for some of the methods

Most the time I make my own holographic plates

Lots of fun, highly toxic and carcinogenic chemistry yaaay

[lunar garden]

can you imagine a 13-15 yrs old boy doing chemistry experiments with h2so4 and others at home under no supervison?

[wide steeple]

Can you imagine him then, spilling it on his leg and joining the Marines?

[halcyon echo]

Never messed with acids much tbh

Did have some misadventures with methanol in my teen years

Set my deck on fire a bit

good times

[wide steeple]

I thought you were going somewhere else with that

[lunar garden]

one classmate does that

at his home

[halcyon echo]

sounds like a good time /s

[lunar garden]

bro had said, he once had a hole through his table and all cause his mom put the acid in a plastic bottle

[halcyon echo]

I used to use hydrochloric acid to clean my glass for making plates and even that stuff made me uncomfortable

[lunar garden]

just so you know, buying sulphuric acid is illegal here

[halcyon echo]

oh even better

Its not illegal where I am but its also not easy to get

[wide steeple]

Me and my buddy, who is in the Marines now. We used to cut open car batteries and concentrate the sulfuric acid out of them

[halcyon echo]

I want to get some nitric acid to make silver nitrate for photochemistry

Nitric is even harder to get here though

[buoyant gorge]

wait, where would ppl normally even get this kind of stuff? Sounds like you’d have to find an actual lab.

I failed science so I don’t know much about this stuff, but it sounds really interesting.

[halcyon echo]

I mean here I can order it from chem suppliers online

Its just expensive because of hazmat shipping fees

[buoyant gorge]

i see

[halcyon echo]

And nitric you buy too much and the government comes knocking on your door

[wide steeple]

Have you made fuming nitric acid before?

[halcyon echo]

I havent no

[wide steeple]

L ratio

[halcyon echo]

Its harder to make it than it is to buy it

[wide steeple]

True but it’s the friends we make along the way that count

[halcyon echo]

Pretty much all the precursors to making nitric acid are restricted because they can also make things that go boom

No fun nitrate salts for me

Could make it using that electric arc method but thats slow and energy intensive

[wide steeple]

The new art style

[buoyant gorge]

how did the text end up like that

looks a bit inspired by both comic and manghwa style.

[wide steeple]

A mind split and a vision torn—such is the nature of things when meaning fractures upon the weight of perception. The hand that draws, the eye that beholds, neither can claim dominion over what is made. It lingers between them, shapeless until called by name.

[lunar garden]

...i see

[buoyant gorge]

I see that your mouth only speaks in eloquence.

[lunar garden]

I thank thee for your knowledge, sensei

[rain oriole]

VERY rough sketch of evil

[wide steeple]

Eloquence? No, merely a fevered whisper from the void, where meaning is a shadow cast by delusion. Words are but shapes in the dust, waiting for the wind to take them.

[lunar garden]

nice

[buoyant gorge]

Wind? Me? I don't remember taking shapes in the dust anywhere.

[lunar garden]

I see...

[buoyant gorge]

ooh nice

[lunar garden]

makes sense

[lunar garden]

he means his words

not you

[buoyant gorge]

i know, im just making bad puns

[lunar garden]

lol

[marsh sundial]

artist alley

[lofty kernel]

It looks great so far!!

[lofty kernel]

[lunar garden]

hey hi

[lofty kernel]

Hope you had a great Monday!

[lunar garden]

yesterday was fine ig

[lunar garden]

and you? how your day going?

[mint root]

[lofty kernel]

Today has been the best cos it started two hours ago and I just finished starting to animate something for a friend.

Yesterday was ok. I like my job but I really want to keep working on my own stuff.

[lunar garden]

lol nice

[rain oriole]

nice

[lofty kernel]

Yeah. I work in the stuff I like to do outside of work which is nice but it kills motivation when I get out from work cos it's a lot harder to boot up premiere/after effects after I've been doing it for 8 hours already.

Thankfully people in the swarm and Minowan have been helping me get the motivation back and keep me going on my drawing practices!

[wide steeple]

hard work is its own master, relentless and unsatisfied. It does not rest, does not yield, only demands more. A man who labors in his passion finds the line blurred, the weight unceasing.

[mint root]

I got too into it

[wide steeple]

Me when I don’t know how to do retopology

[lofty kernel]

It looks great so far!

[rain oriole]

yeah i need to work on learning hair

[jaunty quiver]

Finally~ a blender user besides Calbi & I

1k+ verts for a single ear

[icy vale]

puffy ball

[misty pendant]

I struggle with the same thing ngl and my drawings regarding hair tend to turn out similar to yours. I've been thinking that maybe the problem with hair is that it's hard to convey depth using a singular colour? Using shadows and some blending in the hair might help in conveying this missing depth? I also notice that you're missing the bulge that Annie draws on Evils/Neuro's models in that perspective on the top of the head. Adding that roughly on top where the head circle guide might help as well?

[heavy drift]

so today I noticed a pretty big issue with some of my art which was that when I actually flipped it horizontal, it was very clear there were issues that my brain just, didn't see when it wasn't flipped. I'm gonna start making a habit more of flipping my canvas now but still wondering if there is anything else I could be doing to avoid this because it was pretty startling to see

[misty pendant]

Here's two images I drew where I've experimented with blending, mainly in the face, but I'm trying to learn how to do it on the hair as well.

[rain oriole]

hm maybe its also that i group the hair too much and it turns flat

[mint root]

I was thinking gravity or is it supposed to be flowy?

[misty pendant]

Yes, that could also be an issue. But I'm unsure if that's the absolute solution. Some artists seem to do that, but some seem to make it work while grouping alot. Anni's drawings seem to favour grouped hair tufts more than other artists so it's not so much "your fault" as it is the specific design of the character. Looking at Evil and Neuro, their hair tends to be quite uniform on the top while splitting off more at the bottom. If we want to stay true to the model, we kinda have to group.

[mint root]

That is generally how hair works, they split at the bottom.

[oblique badge]

Its not that deep guys, if you want object to be less flat just add shadows

[misty pendant]

Indeed, that was my original suggestion.

[icy vale]

neuro balls

[mint root]

Not necessarily

You can convey depth with proper line placements

[oblique badge]

Well, yes, you can just use the lines

I'm just talking specifically about these cases

[mint root]

Also hair behaves in a certain way, and as long as you get that you're good

[misty pendant]

Yeah, drawing hair in motion isn't as hard as drawing hair at rest imo.

[rain oriole]

yeah ig

[misty pendant]

Another thing I struggle with is the concept of not making hair look uniform like grass, so I try to make the strands more uneven but then it just looks like she got a bad haircut lmao

[rain oriole]

lol

[mint root]

Breadal987
WIP

[icy vale]

bread

[misty pendant]

Here I switched from Krita to GIMP and quickly added some color to my character's hair and used the smudge tool to try and make hair seem more natural, but the problem I've ran into now is that how I made the conversion doesn't preserve layers so it's smudging the image as a whole. However it might showcase a method (albeit imperfect) to give more depth and hair-like properties.

I don't know where the smudge tool is in Krita or if it even has one. 😦

[mint badge]

GIMP

[misty pendant]

Here's a better example of blending hair, now there's more of sense of volume and depth but the heavy blending clashes with the artstyle!

Conclusion, hair isn't easy.

[chrome stirrup]

you could try darkening the outlines between each individual hair section

[icy vale]

Fluffy hair

[frigid wyvern]

You must think of locks of hair as a solid tridimensional form before adding the texture. It helps to think like a sculptor in this occasion: taking a solid structure and "carving" the hair out with increasingly specific divisions and strands.

Here's a basic illustration of this concept. Courtesy of Proko

[misty pendant]

Hmm, I don't know right now how to translate that to my drawings. When reflecting on Anni's depictions of the twins, her art doesn't have such strong contrasts as the example. Should I try to reintroduce the lineart in the image?

[brittle sun]

The important about making strands irregular is to just keep it simple

if you do to much it ends up as grass

tbh the best thing to start with hair is to just create the basic shapes

[misty pendant]

Like this?

[frigid wyvern]

Also, the strands ideally shouldn't be placed at random; they should follow the general flow of the hair to make a pleasing design (like any art concept, it's perfectly fine to break this principle if it is a deliberate choice)

[brittle sun]

indeed

[sleek apex]

Not my project since I can't animate, but just an idea someone might see here and pick up

Whenever this anime comes out, and if the OP is good, it would be really funny to swap the mom who made the robot body with Anny, the dad who coded her with Vedal, and the robot girl with Neuro

https://anilist.co/anime/186190/Almachan-wa-Kazoku-ni-Naritai/

[brittle sun]

also keep in mind from where hair originates and how it should flow

[misty pendant]

Thank you both for your advice. I should take a break and reflect on this.

[frigid wyvern]

It's good to take a break

[deep hornet]

Damn

Very nice

[oak pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291703742290464768/1338725731064352829/VID_20250211_121629.mp4?ex=67ac20fe&is=67aacf7e&hm=6b428917f78f924cb1a3eb44f7ba7ba5139f37ceaee92b53a21e3b1d5684c624&

should i change my tablet

[oblique badge]

holy

did you play osu on it or what

[oak pond]

heavily

my osu area and my drawing area is basically the same

[deep hornet]

God damn

[oak pond]

i think i could go for 5 more years

nothing went bad on this tablet yet

[thorn quartz]

What is this?

[oak pond]

my osu profile

[misty pendant]

I tried your advice and tried to improve on the image, but it mostly seems like a bad haircut lol, maybe I have too many strands of hair?

[brittle sun]

I feel like you dont need to break down the sidebangs so much

[oak pond]

https://fixupx.com/shimuon/status/1593195828604448770

[misty pendant]

Gotcha, I'll try something simpler.

[potent basalt]

the jawline makes her head look really wide lol... keep at it! ^^

you're right that your art has a bit clashing styles... it feels that skin of the head might be a bit too detailed compared to hair causing it... or something like that

look at vtuber models for example... a lot of them has very gradient and flat like faces to not clash with their hair... pretending I know what I'm talking about ^^

subtle gradients make wonders

[cloud sky]

looking forward to the stream today
we need something funny and random for us all to latch onto and draw

[potent basalt]

my sketch of them going to disneyland on foot is so far my most liked and potentially viewed art piece lol

algorithmic nonsense

[brittle sun]

my most liked one is random expressions practice i did with

[misty pendant]

lol you're absolutely right. My style of drawing is chaotic mess of different styles and methods and I'm not used to drawing anime. 😅 It can give my art a bit of "attack on titan giant" vibe to it

[potent basalt]

yeah... the result is that she looks a bit creepy like that lol... attack on titan yeah uses more realistic style to try and make them look a bit creepy (although I tend to find them look kind of hilarious)... anyway you will get hang of it... essentially it's just trying to have similar level detail across the board so it feels more "uniform"

[misty pendant]

Is she too creepy though? I was going for a creepy vibe but I don't know if I overdid it.

[brittle sun]

wip

[deep hornet]

Nice

[ashen nimbus]

So good

I just made a quick doodle of my persona, my art style keeps changing still

[deep hornet]

Cute

[buoyant gorge]

looks great

[faint valley]

Can’t draw hands. Or feet.
But I’m trying to decide on what the gloves should be, I want it to be ergonomic but also ａｅｓｔｈｅｔｉｃ.

[buoyant gorge]

thats a vibe. hands and feet are hard.

[long rune]

failing too

[potent basalt]

nah I don't find it too creepy... just pointed it out in a case it wasn't intentional... fits well to conquer the earth supervillain theme

[obtuse sparrow]

i have literally the same, but new

[lofty kernel]

Day 4 isn't going as well as I'd hoped:

Idk why but Neuro is so much harder to draw.

[high apex]

you got this 👍 keep going

[jade wigeon]

uh...
I dunno if i can but, heres something i made before

[lofty kernel]

I like it

[jade wigeon]

oh, really?

[lofty kernel]

Yeah!

[jade wigeon]

thanks!

[lofty kernel]

Any time!

[mint root]

Here's a cropped vedal

[misty pendant]

While I'm not an amazing artist but if you want I can try to teach you how to draw hands and feet in different perspectives. That's something I think I'm okay at.

[kind dagger]

I just wondered, is there a "How To Draw Neuro/Evil/Tutel/friends" (or a character sheet etc.) somewhere on this discord? (I was never really taught how to draw anything specific, let alone portraits, and I kind of regret that now.)

[thick gale]

only refs in pinned messages

which is official

[buoyant gorge]

Instead of drawing a specific character, which has the unintentional side effect of locking you into the habit of only being able to draw said characters, it’d probably be easier looking for resources online that’ll help with tackling the individual issues you want to fix in art, whether it be faces, hands, anatomy, perspective, proportions, shading, etc. Build up your visual library and fundamentals, and you’ll be able to adapt to drawing pretty much anything, and by extension, the neuroverse fanart.

after that, a quick look at any neuro character sheet would probably be much easier to sketch than it had been before

[lethal oxide]

help I forgor how to draw da jaw after 1 month 😭 😭 😭

I've been stuck on dis for so long

[thick gale]

measure the distance between hairline and the tip of the nose

approximately

but since your mouth is higher it will be shorter

[buoyant gorge]

the point where the jaw pivots, at least from an angle like this, is usually aligned horizontally with where the mouth is. Also the person above me is probably going to drop some important knowledge too 👆

[misty pendant]

Here's some hand exercises of my knowledge of the hand in different perspectives. I tried to include some comments too.

[buoyant gorge]

palm tapering is one thing i did not realize until now. dang. that’s crazy.

one other interesting thing to note is that due to the webbing between our fingers, our fingers actually appear shorter on the palm side than they do on the dorsal side of the hand.

[misty pendant]

Yeah slightly. In the style I'm drawing in, it's a bit exagerated if you're comparing the dorsal hand to the open palm one and they're of different proportions as well.

[buoyant gorge]

yeah, style really changes things up quite a bit

good notes tho. i learned quite a bit.

[lethal oxide]

I feel like I'm making mistakes I didn't when I started

sadgi

stuff I made when I started a year ago was somehow more correct than now 😭

[thick gale]

a year is a quite some time

[cloud sky]

New Neuro Logo by fFrequence!

[potent basalt]

left one is the newest?

oh... it's with variations

[thick gale]

naaaaisu

if only we had a color palette for neuro..

[buoyant gorge]

i don’t have a point of comparison to work with since i don’t know your earlier pieces, but you could widen the face a tad bit, especially around the eye’s edges. There’s a complete separate plane of face to the right and left of each eye (see asaro head for reference), which, under non-anime proportions usually a half-eye length in distance away from the edge of the eye (for anime its a bit smaller). You could also raise the position of the mouth a bit to make it more proportionally correct (which would give the impression of a younger face) or lengthen the overall bottom taper of the jaw to chin area (giving the impression of an older face). These things, once recognized, become easier to adjust.

[buoyant gorge]

we’re only human. things get forgotten as time goes on, including aspects of our visual library we subconsciously apply. I forget anatomy all the time even though I’ve studied it quite a bit before. But the plus side is that having knowledge of this before, actually makes relearning it much faster, so you don’t have to spend as much time bringing yourself back to the current level you were at before.

I wish you luck on your art journey.

[lethal oxide]

I feel like I learned so much at the start, like day 17 had its mistakes but I feel it's still insane, then at 5 months I had this eliv drawing, now almost exactly a year I'm back to struggling at faces T-T

[misty pendant]

Here's my notes on feet. Use the big toe as a guide, especially if drawing from the front. Note that it's not perfect. My skill level is around intermediate and I'm very rusty on my anatomy.

[lethal oxide]

I know I'm just being harsh on myself to some degree but I also can't ignore how hard I'm struggling on digital compared to traditional

[pale siren]

how long have you been doing digital compared to traditional

[lethal oxide]

uhh like I had this tablet for 6 months but in terms of use is like a month

cause I had school and personal stuff happening

[pale siren]

i see

I know the switch from traditional to digital is difficult

[lethal oxide]

It's a huion kamvas 12 or smth I got as a gift for passing 10th grade

but 11th came so fast I had like 2 weeks to try it

and only now have I actually had the time to fully try

[pale siren]

yeah I say dont beat yourself down and practice more

A lot of trad artist I know dont enjoy digital just because of how different it is

[lethal oxide]

I know I'm overthinking but just feels a bit sadgi seeing how rusty I've gotten

Thanks for the talk ❤️

I love this community so much

genuinely the nicest I've been with

[pale siren]

good luck with school and keep practicing

I should also draw more

I have truly become rusty

[lethal oxide]

I dropped out cause my doctor and school said so

jk

it's fine

Thank you for the tips guys!

[stray wave]

I have to switch to digital but I’m currently waiting till I get a tablet or pc before I completely switch but rn my skill in sketching is really good so I’m not sure if it’s better to switch or not

I need to up load more drawings soon anyways but I’m still working on whole different character bur I’m in the state were my art book might be completely broken soon so not sure wat to do

Also this is my last msg but wat should I call my new character PURE or VALENTINE for a loving emotion character

[misty pendant]

Drawing digitally has many rewards. I started out sketching traditionally, but going digital allows you to more easily start working in layers which can make the process of complex images a bit easier.

Ever since I started I haven't gone back.

[buoyant gorge]

I main digital now mostly too for those same reasons, though I always do my art studies in trad. For me, getting too used to the editing tools digital provides cause me to fall behind in certain areas of linework and proportions and i find not having those advantages when drawing forces me to work on and improve my base drawing skills, which translates well to digital from an efficiency standpoint.

[misty pendant]

Last on my anatomy, outlining general body and proportions. The arms might be a bit too long as displayed, but it's roughly correct.

[elder halo]

This place is so artistic

[buoyant gorge]

I respect a lot how much work you put into studying art.

[misty pendant]

Thank you very much. I'm mostly self-taught so it's so touching that you recognize my efforts!

[buoyant gorge]

No problem! I wish I had your same work ethic years ago when drawing. Part of me feels regretful that I couldn’t recapture that time back then to work on improving myself. But better late than never, so I’m trying to work just as hard to get to where I hope to be one day. Seeing your effort is both relatable and inspiring in that way.

[misty pendant]

Don't be too hard on yourself. I were most active drawing in my 20ies, but I stopped drawing actively because it felt like my skills kinda plateaued. It still kinda feels like the quality isn't there. And while I know a bunch of theory, I'm not that good at actually drawing and transferring my knowledge to paper.

If you want what I've actually produced, it's these most lately. https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1336855652332474458, https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1337163320951836823, https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1337810179512729692, https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1338200301651361893

I'm still trying to improve and I've decided that despite my art being not that great, I want to strive for actually refining my skills this time.

[buoyant gorge]

My friend told me something similar. I am pretty hard on myself in regards to some art stuff, but mostly because I really do love art that much, and plus I overthink a lot. I feel like I wouldn’t be doing the idea of art justice, if I kept falling two steps back with subsequent pieces. I still want to be where I thought I could’ve been, had I not given up on improving all those years ago. But I get what you mean. I’ll try to lighten up my self-criticism.

[buoyant gorge]

I think you’ll do great. The mindset really does affect how you perceive your own works, and before you know it, you’ll look back and realize just how much you’ve improved.

Looking forward to seeing more of your art. I like your comics.

[misty pendant]

We are our own worst critics. Art is such a field that it's saturated by many, many talented individuals so one becomes constantly humbled by their skills. It looks like you're of the same mindset as myself and want to strive to refine your skills too and that's very admirable. It's never too late to learn and our wealth of experience still serves us now and will make the process easier than it was back then.

[near apex]

ohh the feet and hand studies are really cool, I just watch videos and wing it lol

[buoyant gorge]

indeed. it’s never too late.

[misty pendant]

Thank you! I want to make more comics in the future! I want to take up the hobby of becoming something of a cartoon artist!

[buoyant gorge]

I’ve been winging it more recently as per a friend’s advice, but it helps to be backed with knowledge of why the winging works, if that makes sense. This way if I spot a mistake, I’d have a definable reason as to why, so I’m not just wading through the mist trying to figure it out.

Doesn’t stop those mistakes from happening, but at least I know the source 😅

[near apex]

very very true, it’s just really hard for me to get back into studying even tho I know it’s the best thing to do

Procrastination is my worst enemy..

[lunar garden]

all i understood is that you all are just much better than me...

[near apex]

nahh

[buoyant gorge]

vibes.

recently its gotten better for me though, cause past career choices in life gave me so much anxiety i find refuge in art tutorials and learning now.

maybe negative reinforcement is the method all along, though i hope to shift my learning drive to more positive reinforcement soon.

[lunar garden]

don't worry too much about it, it should get better as time goes on

[misty pendant]

For me art isn't so much of a work ethic. I've become so disinterested in gaming (which I used spend my time doing), so I decided to pick art up as a hobby. If I'm not doing art, there's not a lot of things I can do for fun.

[buoyant gorge]

thanks. I’m starting to see it getting better these days, though still a WIP for me.

[near apex]

Yeahh, for me I felt like I hit my peak in art months ago last year, which is concerning as I’ve only been drawing for a little over a year lol, so I’m really want to return to that time

[buoyant gorge]

Also hi again Night 👋

[near apex]

Few of my past works for reference

[buoyant gorge]

so relatable

I’ve been scouring all vids and books trying to find how to push past my peak

and recently i’ve found a good few resources that addressed some of my main concerns

which was workflow, shading methods, and composition

[frigid wyvern]

Those are marvelous

[lunar garden]

yeah, hi again wind

[buoyant gorge]

took me like months to overcome a single peak but it feels pretty satisfying once i do

I can even pinpoint the exact resources that opened my eyes to new art approaches now cause I go back to refresh my knowledge on them periodically

[misty pendant]

These are great! I wish I could make stuff like this. Where do you want to go from there?

[lunar garden]

woww they are great!!

[near apex]

Wow.. organization, I forgot most of my resources

[near apex]

Go from there? I want to go back there lol

[buoyant gorge]

only cause they changed my entire style completely with each resource

[near apex]

I’m not sure myself how I managed to draw that

[misty pendant]

Try something like this. Take your old drawings as a layer in a digital arts suite like Krita or GIMP, then draw over them in a new layer, using your old work as a guide. That can help you refresh your memories on how to do past art.

[buoyant gorge]

redraws are always a nice way to see your improvement process

[lunar garden]

mann...i don't even know how to draw, like i just see somrthing and try to copy it as much as i can

[mint root]

Thats actually a great way to learn

[near apex]

Redrawing feels scary, wouldn’t know how to feel if my redraw turned out worse

[buoyant gorge]

dude references are where its at

[buoyant gorge]

if you’ve targeted where u feel like there was difficulties, you really will only see improvement

and then your mind thinks “dang, it could’ve been even better than this”

[misty pendant]

It will probably turn out worse, but think of it as an opportunity to see where you can see your current limitations.

[buoyant gorge]

but you’re also happy its better

[near apex]

Honestly, now that I think about it I think I drew those pieces with a mindset of not caring about the end result, because I thought it was gonna look bad anyways

[mint root]

I encourage you to push through, making mistakes is the first step to improvement

[lunar garden]

hmm really? its always been like that, idk why others say that its good tho

[buoyant gorge]

that’s how i’ve been tackling art these past few years, and its been working admittedly even tho i still find problems in my pieces all the time

[lunar garden]

idk...i try to copy the whole thing..

[buoyant gorge]

i mean, that’s how we should be learning anyways

i draw the same leg muscles these past few days based on a photo

once we have enough of a visual library, then we can afford to expand more into the realm of imagination

tho the references will always be a helpful resource

[mint root]

You are observing and analyzing art, you can find things you want to incorporate in your art and learn how others draw stuff and in what way

[misty pendant]

When I draw Neuro or Evil I always go from a reference image, because otherwise I'd go off-model. And if you think about it, art is all about copying. When we draw, even if we don't have refence images we are just trying to copy things we've seen in real life.

[buoyant gorge]

yeah, art isn’t just pure imagination. its not like michaelangelo suddenly became a deity of painting overnight. he copies, he picks out useful elements, he repeats the process, and once it improves, he tries to apply it in an original piece.

[misty pendant]

The things we put on the parchment has no meaning without the context of its existence. That's why we copy.

[near apex]

Ah yeah, the people who can draw things from imagination most likely drew it like a thousand times with reference

[buoyant gorge]

every art is subconsciously inspired by another anyways

[buoyant gorge]

exactly

[mint root]

This ^^ and the more you draw new things the easier it will be to construct something you haven't drawn before

[buoyant gorge]

Never feel bad about copying purely for the sake of learning.

Without it, I don’t even know if I would have improved at all.

[lunar garden]

hmm ok, tho idk about others, its still a mystry how the others in class see art, most don't even have any varations in the shading while the good one...idk what goes through them to draw like that

[buoyant gorge]

u have to break it down into components and study just those components

and then it starts becoming clear once all the individual components get combined into the whole

these days, im actually starting to understand artists techniques just by looking at a piece. i only used to be overwhelmed a few years back looking at pro artists.

without understanding at all how they do what they did

[mint root]

Don't worry about those too much, there is no one best way to draw or learn. you can take certain aspects of everyone art and compile them for yourself or even create your own

[buoyant gorge]

plus, you have a vast amount of resources at your disposal. A helpful art community, huge numbers of videos and books, and even other artists to look over. It is entirely possible to set up a game plan that’ll fasttrack your way into an improved version of yourself in just a year or two.

[mint root]

Also proper construction will make things alot easier

[lunar garden]

i try to, but its hard when i don't get how they get that result

[misty pendant]

I suspect that studying artists who aren't as skilled might be better because their art might give away more of their methods.

[mint root]

Watch tutorials and stuff or ask people

[lunar garden]

well..if i am being honest everyone including me in class took art due to it being easy to get marks without studying..

[buoyant gorge]

Yeah like Eclid said, you could ask your fellow artists. You don’t have to feel like you have to push your way through the dark to find the answer. Trust me, I did that, and I don’t want another artist to suffer as I did. It wasn’t until about 2021 ish that I seriously sat down and tried to find out exactly what was wrong, asked ppl for advice, asked others to look over my pieces, constantly watched vids, read books, etc. The process then became easier and easier as time went on.

This is the result of just 2 years of me learning from 2021-2023 redrawing the same character.

[lunar garden]

woww

[buoyant gorge]

plus u could also draw while watching tutorials. i’ve been doing that recently cause vids still make me fall asleep 😆

so why not multitask a bit

A good place to always start is to ignore colors for now and only focus on linework and creating characters using a solid foundation of sketching

loomis method, asaro head, riley methods. Bridgmann anatomy tutorials. Sinix Design, Excal Art Tips, and Proko are all good resources

[heavy shale]

This is how I learn to draw, having a clear picture of what to make helps a lot if you're just starting out

[lunar garden]

actually i haven't used colors since 2 years

[heavy shale]

Best advice is probably to just enjoy the process

[buoyant gorge]

that’s fine. just focus on other things. that’s the great thing about learning. you don’t have to follow a specific path.

[lunar garden]

hmm ok

tho i still struggle to finish the sketch fast

[buoyant gorge]

one thing at a time, get good at that one thing. after you can do it from muscle memory, add a new thing. On average, learning one new thing takes around 1-2 weeks or so

[buoyant gorge]

my sketches range anywhere between an hour and 6 hours. it never gets easier, but knowing the why does help you fix a lot of things.

[lunar garden]

i get that you can take your own time to draw but the exam doesn't

[buoyant gorge]

oh yeah 🤔

[lunar garden]

like in boards the time limit is 3hrs only

[buoyant gorge]

what does your exam want exactly?

[heavy shale]

Prob not as slow as me, I need a day or two just to finish a sketch

[lunar garden]

my boards is starting next week and i have art paper 1 (still life) on 22nd and art paper 2 (nature) on 24th

[lunar garden]

i am slow compared to others as there is a time to complete within

[buoyant gorge]

you could improve your speed at reading general form. Things that help with that is the “envelope” technique (probably on YouTube), or drawing in boxes, 60 sec practices on contours using gestures like on quickposes.com. Drawing by shoulder for broader strokes, while drawing with wrist for details helps a lot. Also different pen grips and even changing your hand position helps with creating better lines facing different directions. In general, having the ability to capture the general shape and form without any detail is a quick way to improve general speed.

then take the final results of your drawing, compare them against the reference, make quick notes on what feels different, diagnose the exact problem, repeat it, but with that problem corrected

[chrome stirrup]

quickposes my beloved

[buoyant gorge]

it might be possible to overcome your dilemma by a week

[chrome stirrup]

try doing blind gesture drawing too

[buoyant gorge]

now that, is a challenge in itself

[chrome stirrup]

you're actually training two skills when drawing, observation and drafting - blind gestures help by separating the two

[placid sky]

[lunar garden]

i am generally told that i have a problem by getting into details too much than what is necessary even in conversations, but thats its not constant

[elder halo]

This place is still artistic

[placid sky]

these will be useful ill try some that to increase my speed and technique

[buoyant gorge]

yeah, tried that recently. not bad, but always comes out a bit more stiff than quickposes referencing. ah well, hopefully it’ll get easier.

[solemn heath]

You have unlocked new role

[chrome stirrup]

ironically enough I get better results but not minding anatomy as much and focusing on the vibe

[buoyant gorge]

who me? wut.

[chrome stirrup]

I don't even know what that is but my brain gives me the good chemicals when it looks right

speaking of

neuro and her old pal One Stoner

[ocean pier]

Hi I'm just jumping in but good art

[placid sky]

being focus on details isnt necesarily a bad thing, when it comes to art. but ill say this, youll find your good spot/amount of detail with time

sometimes you'll get burnout/spaced out but its fine. its okay to step away for a bit take a break go outside. it can help

[chrome stirrup]

there's something off about it but fuck it you get the idea it's trying to convey so that's good enough

[placid sky]

...i say this as someone with a few unfinished works

[chrome stirrup]

hey no shame in keeping a backlog

[ocean pier]

a few and not an incomprehensible number? jealous

[buoyant gorge]

You want details…eventually. But it should be easier to work from big broad shapes to smaller details later. Change your perception to see only the larger shapes first, and the details will be much easier to include in the end.

[chrome stirrup]

oh there's actually quite a lot of new art neurons around

[lunar garden]

sorry i need to go before i get shouted at, i also need to get ready to attend an online class at 8, still i thank you all for your help

[lunar garden]

umm ok i will, i do try that but i just can't help it

[buoyant gorge]

is ok. that’s normal. Even managing to do it intentionally once within the next few days will make the process easier next time.

I studied color concepts that I didn’t even apply until months later, so I know how you feel, but just tell yourself actively in your mind to just draw in shapes as your drawing and erase immediately if you’re straying from that path.

and the process should feel more intuitive

[ocean pier]

what we had to do in class was use a 30 second timer, everytime it goes off you HAVE TO move on to the next drawing, forces you to develop shortcuts with shapes

it was also really frustrating and awful and I didn't like that class

[mint root]

I am drawing as a hobby so speed for me just comes from drawing alot

I used to take so much time drawing
Ah the good old days

[buoyant gorge]

my longest piece was like 40 hours with rendering and it wasn’t even that good. And then there are days I do 6 hour pieces that look better than anything I’ve made before.

Art is a funny thing.

[buoyant gorge]

I believe in you Night. Wish you the best of luck 🍀

[mint root]

40 hours is lot holy, I just checked and the longest I have is 16 hrs

[buoyant gorge]

yeah 3 straight days of pain

and i was so dissatisfied with it in the end 😭

[mint root]

Can I see it? I'm curious now

[buoyant gorge]

maybe not now, cause i’m too sad about it 😅

[mint root]

Aw, that is alot of dedication though, I would've already given up

[buoyant gorge]

i was trying to make a 3 part series for houseki no kuni but the third just did not turn out well at all

[buoyant gorge]

yeah. i don’t know what i was thinking at that time.

I think it was cause the first of the three became my best piece for a while, so I thought I’d repeat the process for two other characters, and each felt worse than the last.

[mint root]

I usually just give up from a certain point when I feel like I've done alot already and just complete the rest in very simple artstyle

[buoyant gorge]

yeah i get that feeling too

tho i’ve worked around that recently by just reducing the time it takes for me to shade

so i study a lot on things to make my workflow more efficient

to get similar quality renders in less time

these days my average pieces are like 6-12 hours where as before they averaged like 25-30

[mint root]

The same as mine actually, i try new things every time I draw so I have a part where I study a specific thing in the illustration

Well except for the 25-30 hours part

[buoyant gorge]

Mmhmm. And the results of feeling like you’re applying new concepts is always nice too.

[buoyant gorge]

yeah, i’ve always been a slow artist. Maybe I was too slow trying to fix things until they looked just right. These days, I focus more on the broader composition.

So even my line art is pretty messy now, as long as the final piece looks good.

[mint root]

I was slow in a type where I carefully place down a circle and then procrastinate for like 2 hours

I can now sit down for hours drawing though

[oak flower]

Does anyone know any exercises to help with drawing? I seem to be unable to improve

[buoyant gorge]

quickposes.com

60 seconds of gestures

20 gestures each day

[mint root]

What are you having problems on?

[oak flower]

Cants seem to draw shapes

[buoyant gorge]

3D shapes?

[oak flower]

Yes

[buoyant gorge]

Draw a Box teaches that exact thing

they have exercises on perspective and shapes

you only really need lesson 1

don’t need to do the other ones

the box and perspective lessons are enough

[oak flower]

Thanks ill try this

[halcyon echo]

Tesseract hologram :3

[buoyant gorge]

you made a 2d representation of a 3d version of a 4d object

[buoyant gorge]

you destroying my brain

[halcyon echo]

All the dimensions are belong to me

[ocean pier]

it hurts my brain and I can't comprehend it

good work

also I'm sure this has to have already been done by someone in this fandom by now but I'm having fun so

[azure nebula]

He just yoinks Evil off screen
Looks great so far!

[elder halo]

So artistic

[ocean pier]

I wanted to draw them over the spy family ending but I didn't know how to involve Evil in it so yoink

[lofty kernel]

I tried.

Day 4 of practice.

[azure nebula]

Hey, that's not half bad!

[serene monolith]

Random here, pretty good for day 4

!!

[azure nebula]

Are you using anything to get better? Or just practicing?

like, video guides on drawing

[lofty kernel]

Rn I'm looking up pictures and trying to draw. I found the guy who taught the class at the anime con on YouTube and he has 300+ videos on how to draw. Just haven't had the time cos of work

[azure nebula]

Nice! Understandable

[serene monolith]

I think it depends on the style, but one thing I learned when I tried to get good at drawing anime style is that the forehead is comically big

Take that if it helps you

[ocean pier]

it's great for day 4 !

[lofty kernel]

I need to remember for next time cos Neuro's head in this one looks a little short lol

[lofty kernel]

Thank youuu!!

[serene monolith]

Yaya it's easy to forget when you're starting lol

I think I had one drawing when I was trying to get good with face shapes and It took me hours to figure why the hair wasnt hairing

LmA

Anyway Yaya it's pretty nice for day 4

[lofty kernel]

Thank you everyone! I'm really trying to keep the momentum and motivation

[ocean pier]

you know what would be a fun way to practice art chat, a neuroverse themed game of garticphone

[serene monolith]

REAL

[serene monolith]

Oh that's cool, gl on it yo it's all about practice

[lofty kernel]

How do you play? I've never heard of this?

[ocean pier]

it's basically art telephone

[lofty kernel]

Ohh

[serene monolith]

You can get friends to animate stuff too

It's pretty funny with vc

[ocean pier]

there are lots of modes. though having a mic or vc isn't required. tho i agree

[serene monolith]

Oh yeah ik it just makes it funnier imo (I laugh when I hear people laughing)

[ocean pier]

I was in one fandom discord where the artists would get together regularly and play. That fandom became toxic but I miss how fun it was, hence why I bring it up in other discords now in the hopes it'll catch on in one lol

[serene monolith]

Sounds nice

I've only ever played with friends

[ocean pier]

or the dread when you hear someone say "what " when it's time to read the prompts

[lofty kernel]

I feel like a kid again

[serene monolith]

I recall a match when our prompts just turned into the most degenerate stuff I had ever had the misery of reading (I started it)

[serene monolith]

Eye is peak

Anyway I think imma go zzz but if the ideas catches on pls ping me lol

Cyall

[ocean pier]

goodnight

[lofty kernel]

Have a great night!!!

[serene monolith]

Tyy

[halcyon echo]

IDK if it counts as art exactly, but Ive taken up decapping microchips with my laser lately and its cool to see all the nano structures that make up an IC :3

^Thats a chip for doing H.264 video encoding from a dead video camera

Maybe this is more a thing for the Programming channel though XD

[ocean pier]

I mean, art is subjective. this isn't the kind of art my brain can be wrapped around but it's super cool nonetheless

[main orchid]

It's totally art. Reminds me of similar work by Elias Sime at the STL museum. Fascinating that from the macro scale all the way down to the micro, we get these abstract views that resemble aerial photos, but from manufactured technology.

[halcyon echo]

ooooh I likey

[buoyant gorge]

wth this is awesome

is there a name for this style?

[halcyon echo]

I'd love to get one of those big silicon wafers sometime

Make a cool hologram

[deep hornet]

That nice

[lunar garden]

wow pretty cool

[halcyon echo]

Did a hologram of an EPROM chip a while back it turned out pretty good :3

You can see the sparkle of the bare memory chip in the hologram

[lunar garden]

wow that looks dope

[buoyant gorge]

neat

[main orchid]

That is awesome!

[halcyon echo]

ty :3

[ocean pier]

ooh

that is so cool

[buoyant gorge]

im stuck on ideas for a character composition piece 🫠. hate when this happens. hour goes by just thinking of a good pose/backdrop and still can’t figure out a good piece idea.

[ocean pier]

are you having trouble choosing between options or having trouble coming up with any options you like

[buoyant gorge]

i scrapped a bunch of poses. it’s an angel design of a friend’s. trying to come up with a good composition.

[ocean pier]

Yeah that's fair

[buoyant gorge]

i have really bad days of ideas followed by good days. i hate that it comes in waves. my brain not braining today.

[ocean pier]

I bet you'll get it eventually, maybe you just need to take a break and come back with fresh eyes

sometimes the creative juices just need rest and refreshing

[buoyant gorge]

i thought about that, but i got a long work day tmrw so i wanted to work on it today. sigh maybe i should just play games or something.

u may be right

[ocean pier]

whatever you decide to do I wish you the best of luck

also, programmer socks added

[buoyant gorge]

nice touch

lore accurate vedal

[ocean pier]

thanks 😆

[rain oriole]

good enough ig

ill shade the rest

[ocean pier]

Woah nice!!!

[buoyant gorge]

looks good. i think u were the one trying to learn pikazo’s eye style right? maybe im misremembering

[heavy shale]

cutee

[rain oriole]

yeah i am

but i think should learn how to draw hair first

[buoyant gorge]

go for it!

[rain oriole]

👍

[timid kelp]

cute Evil

[rain oriole]

yeah this is fine

[azure nebula]

aww, I love it!

[scenic hamlet]

YO, this where the music-makers?

[austere pilot]

lemme scrounge something up

[scenic hamlet]

Fucking based. I toss in the towel, thanks.

[austere pilot]

made in garageband

[austere pilot]

np lol

[scenic hamlet]

No fuck it, gotta start somewhere

How would you go about isolating one from the other with some kind of fade-in/fade-out in between transitions? Am I over thinking it and should just use pure mute on various parts, or is there a specific effect for smoothest possible transition?

[austere pilot]

i USED to mess around with the volume adjustment functions to make a sort of fade in, but

idrk tbh

[scenic hamlet]

Audacity comes with a fade-in/ -out functionality.

fuq

Aight thanks anyway

[austere pilot]

Sorry i couldn't help

[oak hamlet]

With Audacity? probably just layer a fade in and fade out on both tracks at the same time while muting the parts where only one is playing on the other track

[scenic hamlet]

Yeah that's what I tried earlier. It didn't turn out too great (1m 30-something seconds)

[oak hamlet]

Well, then get a proper DAW (such as LMMS) and use something like automation to make a smoother fade in and fade out

Can't do much with pure Audacity

[scenic hamlet]

Is that a proprietary and professional piece of software?

[oak hamlet]

Free and open source I believe, best DAW you're getting for free most likely

[scenic hamlet]

Okay... THANKS \o/

inb4 it's a trojan

o7

[oak hamlet]

It's really good, I make stuff like this with it

[scenic hamlet]

Wait, but how tho

[oak hamlet]

I just layer a bunch of effects onto a bunch of vocal tracks
Note, that is not based on the official Evil cover, it uses my RVC Evil V7 voice

The base was made before Evil even covered the song

[scenic hamlet]

That start.

Is Red Alert2

Time is running out?

[oak hamlet]

What? It's just Ghost rule

[waxen shell]

It's beautiful

[scenic hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3HD7J1mhDI
I was thinking Grinder, my bad.

[austere pilot]

'mogus

[scenic hamlet]

Artists... I have a memory of Evil featured on a poster in BioShock/ Fallout fashion wearing a ww2 Armani outfit and being all suppressive. Am I hallucinating?

[austere pilot]

i hope not

[scenic hamlet]

Well, some sort of oppressive-govt-uniform, not with the actual insignias of that time.

Could be I hallucinated this, actually.

[austere pilot]

kirov reporting.

[scenic hamlet]

OH!!
Maybe I was thinking City17 posters-style?

Who did this?

ALSO
I am vindicated.

[lunar garden]

wow that looks great

[scenic hamlet]

I'll make my own then

[lunar garden]

yeahh

[scenic hamlet]

She's evolving \o/

(how to make the colours match better?)

[lunar garden]

wow that's great
(can't really say, I don't know much about digital)

[scenic hamlet]

Next step. Evli looming over these two pictures with her arms out in a EVIL embrace.

[austere pilot]

You should repaint a kirov with evil's face on it

Evil, reporting.

[scenic hamlet]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUQ

YESSSSSS

OKAY,... I need... I NEED someone to teach me photoshop RIGHT NOW.

And I need a profile-picture of the Evil-Plushie™

[austere pilot]

I could do it over lunchbreak.

Like

Make the image

(Probably(

[wanton locust]

best way to learn is to play, just open photoshop and play around

[scenic hamlet]

I don't even have photoshop. I have Krita.

I don't even REMEMBR why I got Krita, 'cause I'm still using paint to do the mixing because Krita is being difficult.

[wanton locust]

get GIMP, good free alternative

to photoshop that is

[scenic hamlet]

Oh yeah.. I use Krita to make the white background transparent so it can embed without flashbanging people.

go to googo l GIMP DOWNLOAD

[scenic hamlet]

No, but thanks.

[lost stratus]

Make ship already has it transperant

[scenic hamlet]

Wait, isn't that portrait?

I need her from like an... 70-80 degree angle turned. So so can go on this:

[scenic hamlet]

YES!

PERFECT

[lost stratus]

https://www.makeship.com/products/evil-neuro-plush

all on makeship

[wanton locust]

after effects moment

[lunar garden]

man..i want that now..

[scenic hamlet]

I just realised: I do not know how to also STRETCH the faces so they're unnecessarily oblongated to fit the Kirov aesthetics. But the concept is GENIS.

[azure nebula]

maybe hue/saturation filter? Would require manual adjustment to hopefully kind of match, but that's all I got

[lunar garden]

yeahh way to go

[lost stratus]

Change the colour temperature

[scenic hamlet]

Is improvement. Is still so many miles to go.

Also song ended WTF

https://youtu.be/fqlb0p11RcE?t=1777
To help with the work and stay in-atmosphere.

WHY is this so difficult D:

[lost stratus]

If it was easy, this wouldn't be a profession

[scenic hamlet]

That is such a... an annoying thing to say 😦

(they hated Possum because he spoke the truth)

[scenic hamlet]

Wait, what's the name of the website that makes the plushies?

(and does it have like 3D preview of the plushies?)

[icy vale]

Makeship?

[scenic hamlet]

YES! Thank you

It does not

[steady tulip]

Neuro so cute

[scenic hamlet]

The last thing you see before hearing a loud, "BOMBS AWAY!"

[steady tulip]

Another neuro

I drew the pose completely from imagination so I’m pretty happy with it

[austere pilot]

HAHAHAHA

[scenic hamlet]

SHUDDUP it's SUPER F'ing cute!

[austere pilot]

I KNOW

'puter is set up and photoshop is up

time to doodle

[scenic hamlet]

He got an upgrade

[austere pilot]

POV: about to get destroyed by kirov

[scenic hamlet]

\o/

WHY ARE YOU SO GOOD AT THIS

[austere pilot]

im very determined to become better

so

i practiced alot

[scenic hamlet]

Do you draw with mouse?

[austere pilot]

partly did, but mostly with wacom tablet

[austere pilot]

blursed headshape

[scenic hamlet]

why is this so familiar?