2024-game-jam

[waxen wasp]

yes

wasm

[fringe star]

for the most part we just export it into html and just use that

[waxen wasp]

its probably not all that painful to make scratch work in itch?

[fringe star]

wait, i think its more than html

we have a couple that can interact with websites

[waxen wasp]

what we uploaded to itch was a zipfile with a html and an apk

[fringe star]

we have these that can interact with websites

[waxen wasp]

we just pray to the pygbag devs for compatibility

[fringe star]

this is all i uploaded to itch during submissions

[signal monolith]

15mb ???????

very smol

[fringe star]

yes?

yes

[signal monolith]

didn't know scratch builds are so small

[waxen wasp]

might have messaged them twice a few weeks before the game-jam cuz of some bugs

[signal monolith]

my godot game is 40mb as a web export tbf

[fringe star]

btw

whats the resolution of your games?

[waxen wasp]

1080p

although we can choose

[signal monolith]

mine is 720p but it should scale to higher ones

[fringe star]

Darn thats why

[waxen wasp]

in theory i could make it render in 16K
it has 2000fps in 1080p anyways so why not?

[fringe star]

custom stage size is the same as resolution i think

[waxen wasp]

possebly ye, im not too familiar

[royal jewel]

Itch shows the game in the resolution it renders at, that's the issue

You would need a 16K screen or better to play it

Some have had issues with exactly that

Even with 1080p

[fresh remnant]

No you don't. We render at 1080p and it scales down just fine using some css

[waxen wasp]

i set the embed size at 1080p cuz i thought nobody would have a 720p screen.
(i was wrong , we had to make a 720p build)

[signal monolith]

that's why I set it to 720p just to be sure

[royal jewel]

Well, it did end up being ssome sort of issue

[signal monolith]

I think 720p is the lowest resolution your game should work at nowdays

maybe 1080p is more common but I prefer to pick the safer 720p

[queen halo]

Does anyone know how in depth we should go if we want to integrate the Neuro SDK? Like should she be able to press the play button from the start menu and such?

[royal jewel]

If you want her to

[fringe star]

also i think another reason why my game aint that storage heavy is because its pretty small(resolution) along with the lack of music

[fringe star]

your choice for the most part, i think

[signal monolith]

yeah, textures, music and models take the most space

[waxen wasp]

im a fan of industry standards, 60fps and 1080p have been the standard for 10+ years.
so i thought it was a safe bet to make it 1080p.

i was wrong

[royal jewel]

Display scaling probably messes with it too

[signal monolith]

not everyone is a gamer, some people have old laptops for example

[fringe star]

darn 60fps?

[signal monolith]

and steam deck is 800p

[fringe star]

mines set to 30

[royal jewel]

Especially common on laptops

[waxen wasp]

i set an fps cap cuz operaGX had issues with it being uncapped

doesnt like 2000fps, who would have thought?

[signal monolith]

godot web builds seem to force vsync

[waxen wasp]

uncapped falls back to vsync on google, and 60fps on firefox

[signal monolith]

tbf you can change vsync in the settings and frame cap in my game

[waxen wasp]

i had that last year but didnt bother with it this year cuz of it being a web embed

[signal monolith]

but default is vsync no cap(cause vsync caps fps anyway)

[waxen wasp]

my window size changer from last year is a beautiful clusterfuck of horible code

[fringe star]

what are the chances the next game jam is evil on February?

[signal monolith]

low

[waxen wasp]

almost 0

[fringe star]

yeah..

[tacit wasp]

I wouldn't be surprised if Vedal stays on break for the entierety of February

[waxen wasp]

ved said he wanted more time to work on his game for the next one, so it wont be soon as he's busy as fuck rn

[fringe star]

if vedal is on break does neuro n evil go with him?

[tacit wasp]

Would be peak if he comes back on Evil's birthday to spend the day with her
That would be the exact opposite of last year

[tacit wasp]

No I think Neuro and Evil will try to run the streams on their own?

[waxen wasp]

most likely, i dont think the streams are fully automatic rn

[royal jewel]

Automation is a thing, Tuesday streams are fully automated

[waxen wasp]

oh

[royal jewel]

At least as far as I can tell

[waxen wasp]

interesting

he said that for this subathon, he has a timer and presses a button on his phone to start neuro.
then goes back to bed and has another timer to switch scene or whatever.
then again to bed untill it 6.30pm and then he wakes up fr

[royal jewel]

I guess it makes sense with the subathon, not really a point to implement wake up automation for now

Tuesday streams are a recurring thing and need a different kind of automation

[royal jewel]

You can sometimes even see automation having issues in #announcements I think (there's error messages there sometimes)

[fringe star]

[tacit wasp]

@misty tree Your fangame got fanart
https://fxtwitter.com/DenggoTenggo/status/1878059888196387221

[misty tree]

ayyyy nice

thats super cool

[void sonnet]

that game made me cry

[molten shadow]

damn, no more gamejam games are gonna be played?

[signal monolith]

probably not

[void parcel]

ive seen quite a few people assuming no more games will be played, but from the start it was stated on the game jam's overview page that vedal wants to get to as many games as possible, even after the subathon

especially games with neuro integration

vedal even stopped playing evil's malice evil in time prematurely so that he can play through it with evil in the future

[tacit wasp]

It was Evil In Time but yeah exactly

[void parcel]

plus he still has to play alex's game with anny, and i imagine he'll take that opportunity to play other games as well

[void parcel]

ah my bad

too many games with evil in the name xd

[tacit wasp]

True, there was a lot of games with Evil

[void parcel]

this is the statement im referring to btw

[native chasm]

5:25 AM
Such a perfect time to go sleep

[signal monolith]

imagine sleeping, cringe af

[queen halo]

anyone know how many of the top games vedal will go through on stream? also, is there a planned stream where neuro plays the games that have added integration?

sorry if this question has already been asked lol

[signal monolith]

1. he went through top 10 and didn't said anything about playing more for now
2. there will be, according to jam's description but again there are not details for now

[queen halo]

thanks!

[fresh jewel]

I think he's letting Evil play Evil In Time but I don't know about anything else.

[lethal sonnet]

1. I believe he did say he had his eyes on a couple more entries.

2. Vedal will do a "Neuro plays" stream once he gets filters to work with the Neuro Game SDK. If I understand correctly, the info Neuro receives from the SDK is completely unfiltered right now and Vedal is concerned that someone might maliciously pass things to Neuro that shouldn't reach her.

[tardy flint]

I wonder if this UI is good enough...

I hate designing UI

[signal monolith]

two bars "star" one and "heart" one seem misaligned to each other, it's very annoyoing when you notice it

[tardy flint]

Uh oh, this is what I get for putting the icon along with the bar itself in the sprite

gotta seperate them now

[waxen wasp]

i avoid designing ui like the plague

[signal monolith]

in godot designing ui is really fun actually

[waxen wasp]

[tardy flint]

Unity is so dumb, aspect ratios and moving UI absolutely breaks everything and I've had to reset some projects from scratch because of building it in the wrong aspect ratio

[signal monolith]

positioning ui with code only is a nightmare

I know

I've been there

it wasn't pretty

[tardy flint]

dont even mention it

[waxen wasp]

thats just what you have to do with python code

wasnt as bad as having to convert mouse cords to 3D space tho

[tardy flint]

figuring out why my UI was rendering at position x 60000 y 120000 z 45000 for no reason at all was the worst nightmare of my life

[fringe star]

I just noticed 10 tin cans

[tardy flint]

That looks good

[waxen wasp]

i could have done it the normal way via dividing by the window height and applying the inverse transform matrices, but i had only 2hours to fix this

a lot of random numbers that i just had to make up

[junior elm]

yeah it's very... interesting

i would give a higher rating almost 99% of times to original music, even if it's worse than unoriginal added music

[waxen wasp]

#128 is better than half at least

[fringe star]

maybe its because theres a shit tone of games with really good audio

[waxen wasp]

i have no right to talk about audio as part of the team that got #1

[junior elm]

[fringe star]

i also have no right to talk about audio as i placed #212 in audio

i think rather than audio, its supposed to be called sound design

[pale iron]

I somehow placed 146 in audio even though it’s just the midi Life by chxi on loop. There are no other sounds besides that

[junior elm]

i mean fair enough

really not a big deal honestly, but just that it's personally me that i would definitely be careful over rating unoriginal vs original audio

and i understand that for most people it's really not that special

[tardy flint]

Hm...I wonder if swapping the placement of the health and power makes more sense design wise

I was planning on coding enemies being able to attack the player, healthbars and enemies being able to attack the machine...instead I spent several hours drawing sprites

6AM baby

[signal monolith]

there were many games that had no sound at all, that's why

[tardy flint]

My game only has gunshots and a cropped mating sound of foxes for when a tuffee gets shot

[native chasm]

Did you say that Neuro and Evil are cringe

[signal monolith]

No, they don't sleep, vedal shuts them down

I think...

[native chasm]

Neuro is sleeping rn on the stream

[native chasm]

Yeah but the score was like not even 2.5

[signal monolith]

it doesn't mean she's really sleeping

[native chasm]

Idk, by that logic anything could be divided further down
I agree with Lusk tho, it should be just called differently

[native chasm]

But she is tho
Once she even woke up by herself without

[signal monolith]

peak content btw rn

[native chasm]

True

[signal monolith]

yeah, I remember that, but I wonder if that's an exception and vedal forgor to turn of her program

idk, it's kinda weird if her program is fully working when she's "sleeping"

it wouldn't make much sense

[native chasm]

Vodsception will be crazy next year

[rotund rampart]

Clearly she was dreaming of electric turtles

[signal monolith]

weird plug but ok

only the unity one that animates her model should work, when she sleeps, right?

[native chasm]

But she isn't fully turned off either

Like when you sleep you too aren't fully working, but aren't turned off either

[signal monolith]

if language model is "neuro", then I don't see much point in leaving it on when she's "sleeping", so "neuro" isn't "sleeping"

btw all of this mental gymnastic is to deny that I called neuro cringe

because she isn't

cringe

[native chasm]

Neuro is way more than just LLM, also, if you don't talk in your sleep then are you dead during this time?

[signal monolith]

no, but If your brain doesn't work, you're dead

and llm is her "brain"

it isn't only for talking

it's also for "thinking"

I need to go

rn

sorry

[native chasm]

How do u know if she's not recieving vod tho, maybe she's just not responding cuz she's sleeping. Just like on streams when she gets sleepy, she isn't turning off.

[signal monolith]

I don't know how it exactly works behind the scenes, I doubt her llm is running when she's sleeping, because it feels like the most straightforward way to make her "sleep", but I can't be sure, the time when she "woke up" might suggest otherwise, but it may also be an exception when vedal forgor, also don't take my rumblings seriously, I'm just trying to save my face, I didn't want to say that neuro is cringe lol

[frail wharf]

pretty sure she just plays a sleeping animation when she receives no input for a while or when turned off

[signal monolith]

it may also be true

but it's weird that vedal leaves her for such a long time to idle

but your answer seems pretty good, it fits

she also "woke up" during the sleepover, but it seemed planned and "acted" a bit

[native chasm]

Just say that sleeping isn't cringe either then
Tbh it doesn't really matter what happens behind the scenes, AIs may just sleep differently from humans and what matters is that it's different from being turned off

[signal monolith]

Nah, I can't do that

[native chasm]

Even if she's usually turned off and even if that was, in fact, an exception when tutel forgor, that would mean that she slept at least then. Plus she's sometimes getting sleepy on streams and I highly doubt that vedal turns off her LLM during these times. Even if it's short, it's still sleeping.

[lament ermine]

If he's renting gpus by the hour then that's a lot of wasted money

[signal monolith]

True, that's why I think he completely disables her llm when she sleeps and one time she woke up he forgor to disable it

[waxen wasp]

iirc layna will be playing game-jam games today

if stream starts around the usual time, in 3 hours

[sage canyon]

Oh cool

[quick badger]

Didn't he kinda confirm they were both running locally? He probably has a GPU rack for them

[lament ermine]

he did? I must have missed that

[quick badger]

I mean it's all trade secret so nothing is confirmed but that's what I understood from the few times he talked about it

[waxen wasp]

i thought she was running on that 4090, idk tho

[quick badger]

Also he had a lot of memory leak issues which would make more sense that it is caused by his AI software than just the vtuber

having both neuro and evil+ a game still lags his stream too so there's that, tho some vtuber models are really demanding so it might not be a good tell

[waxen wasp]

im pretty sure the game runs on his pc

its most likely only the 2D model + LLM + filter + voice recognition + TTS + vision and maybe some other stuff like the discord api that runs on neuro's pc

[quick badger]

put in perspective like that it's really impressive he's able to run all that

tho I believe tts and voice recognition are generally lighter than LLMs? never played with those locally

[misty tree]

i better push an update to my game just in case

[waxen wasp]

we currently have audio issues during scene changes, im trying to fix that too

it glitches cuz of loading the new assets

im switching to preloading everything

basicly just trading audio lag for ram usage

[misty tree]

never done an update before on itch.io, how do you like, explain patch notes XD

is that what a dev log is?

[waxen wasp]

i think so, idk

i have updated stuff before but never said what i changed

[sour horizon]

You can just upload the new version, writing a dev log is optional

But when you do, you can pick what kind of post it is, like it's an update or a major change etc.

Can also add screenshots and files and such

[void parcel]

a changelog (or patch notes) is usually paired with an update and just lists off all the changes from the previous version. how technical/in-depth the changelog is, is up to the developer

a devlog is usually put out regularly throughout development time for transparency so users will know whats coming in the next update, or for peace of mind to know ur still actively working on the game

[waxen wasp]

this is an example i guess

idk if its a good one but it is one

[misty tree]

alright, upload pushed c:

https://holymuffin.itch.io/a-bandoned-rchive/devlog/867421/first-update-hopefully-one-more-to-come
hopefully this looks ok xD

[misty tree]

oh hey, views hit a peak after vedal played it, even more than during game jam

[waxen wasp]

same

[charred hamlet]

vedal effect is real

[fringe star]

vedal effect but happened a bit earlier

[waxen wasp]

layna is live but it looks like she will be playing something else

"darkwood"

[placid salmon]

Google analytics told me a lot of people from China and the USA played my game.

[sage canyon]

noice my game recieved a couple downloads so i think more people in general are checking out the game jam

[waxen wasp]

got moved to "this week"

so not today but she will play

[tacit wasp]

Give me more time to finish the main menu update let's go
I'm super slow when it comes to updates

[waxen wasp]

i implemented camera collision in update 1, but not all objects were doing it properly

so im fixing that now

the gist of it is for collision i use a 2D array, and cam collision gets wonky when the cam is not in the same grid position as the player

[sour horizon]

I've also added some small things and more stuff to interact with

[civic fractal]

@waxen wasp did we already get played? Idk if I missed it or not

[royal jewel]

Not played on stream yet

[waxen wasp]

i dont think so no

[civic fractal]

Thanks!

[mighty solstice]

WTF

[waxen wasp]

why is the text red?

oh it didnt send

discord seems to be having issues

[waxen wasp]

wdym "WTF"?

[civic fractal]

Light mode probably

[waxen wasp]

i cant be bothered to figure out why itch doesnt go into dark mode eventhough the rest of my system is

[civic fractal]

I think everyone else is just using dark reader

[charred hamlet]

I mean, there's a setting for dark mode?

[waxen wasp]

i didnt know about that

[mighty solstice]

1000

Downloads

It mean that the game is so good that people outside of the game jam wanted play it

[civic fractal]

That's another persons

[civic fractal]

This one I think is the one your referring to

[fringe star]

wdym 1000?

[civic fractal]

[fringe star]

i have 35 downloads

[waxen wasp]

some of those have 1000+ views and browser plays, but none of them have 1000 downloads

so idk

they probably misread

[fringe star]

i think so

[mighty solstice]

.... No i didn't misread

I just read incorrectly

It's all

You baka >:3

[waxen wasp]

isnt that the same thing?

ye idk

it doesnt matter

[mighty solstice]

Bruh

[native chasm]

I wonder if next year we'll have games that feature tutel's dad

[waxen wasp]

i made ved's room this year, why not make the entire house next year?

[tacit wasp]

Next year, we'll have Vedal's dad integration

[waxen wasp]

ah yes, dad integration

we have vedals dad on speeddial to cal him when ved plays the game

[waxen wasp]

just uploaded the last planned update, also made a devlog cuz why not?
https://igglybuff-ever.itch.io/a-neuro-who-cant-sing/devlog/867596/update-1

i called it "update 1" but there most likely wont be an "update 2"

[signal monolith]

Nice

[tacit wasp]

Let's gooo

I got jumpscared by my own pfp not having the christmas hat anymore

[void parcel]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[civic fractal]

I expect to see a 40sec time when I search it up on speedrun.com

[void parcel]

guess i gotta make a new run since my current best is in an old version of the game

[signal monolith]

unfortunetly, I would wait if I were you because I'm still typing out the rules

https://www.speedrun.com/crb
I think the page is complete

[void parcel]

im almost getting sub 20 boss time

[civic fractal]

dink donk raise the viewership

[void parcel]

its just broken

or takes a while to update

[signal monolith]

Fyi i'll have to go to uni i a couple of hours so I'll by verifying runs(if any will get submitted) in about 13 hours

[marsh swan]

https://mikolak14.itch.io/neuro-gear-operation-cookie-retrieval/devlog/867054/post-jam-update
Hello I made an update to my game :D ! Might add something later!

[native chasm]

Then we shall also have integration for entire neuroverse to voice act 3 lines whenever tutel plays the game

[void parcel]

submitted a run 🫡 cant wait to see if anyone else does

[pale iron]

I am finally happy with my sprite. I think

[signal basalt]

oh man, I regret not turning on ambient occlusion in Remnants of the Archive, it looks 100x better

I was wondering why the graphics felt off

wish I could share the picture but I don't seem to have embed perms anymore lol

[wraith cairn]

very cute!

[void parcel]

if anyone can get pipe% in sub 40 seconds in crb, you have my utmost respect

this shit hard

[signal monolith]

ANYMORE?
What did you do?

[civic fractal]

I've seen it a few times in this channel, might be resetting progress for inactive users if I had to guess.

[signal basalt]

Well I'm not usually super active in the server, so I never got them the intended way, but when I made a skin for neuro a while before the upgrades, I asked big V for premature embed perms so I could share it

I guess whatever role they gave me isn't around anymore

[signal monolith]

[signal basalt]

how many messages do you need to have before you get perms anyway?

[tardy flint]

a few hundred i think

like 400 pretty much

actually apaprently not

since i have only 240 messages and i got image perms a while ago

so probably 100

[signal basalt]

let me just spam a couple messages in every channel to get those numbers up

[tardy flint]

sounds good

[void parcel]

according to the FAQ forum channel, you get 10-20 points for every message, with a 2 minute cooldown

and you need 1000 total points to get embed perms, making the absolute minimum messages required 50
assuming you got 15 points per message on average, it would be 66.666(repeating) messages

granted, this is only if all your messages fell outside the 2 minute cooldown period. so realistically it probably would be close to 100 messages

[fringe star]

I finally got the terrain mechanic to work

[lethal egret]

Holy, it's looking awesome!

[misty tree]

ooo cool

[fringe star]

Mountains reduce damage taken but take double energy to travel
Plains are normal.
for water only air and water units can travel in it
Units that fall out the void or into terrain they cant stand on die
There's a new unit architype called "cc" that can push units

[lethal egret]

Wait a minute... Water units?

[fringe star]

Also gonna be trainable buildings, they can be placed beside or on lavalamps and they function as either turrets or upgrades aka Airport to unlock planes, factory to unlock vehicles, flak turret for defensive artillery stuff like that.

[proud smelt]

heyo! question, we are working on the neuro build
wanna know if anyone knows when is vedal going to make neuro play the games
would hate doing all this work and neuro not getting to play it 😛

[tacit wasp]

The mods are gonna create a thread or something when they'll be looking for them

[native chasm]

That looks really nice

Btw have you considered colorblind ppl?

[fringe star]

sorta, still trying to figure out what colors i need to change

[native chasm]

I remember using this website for checking if my images were fine for everyone

[native chasm]

Changing shape works quite good too I think

So if u can't figure out what color to use u csn change some details so it looks distinct anyway

[fringe star]

i think for now i'll add a badge for allies and enemies

are you perhaps colorblind?

you dont need to answer if its sensitive

[native chasm]

I don't think I am, I just feel like making things colorblind-friendly is quite important

My chain of thought here is quite simple. It's not a small fraction of population and surely it isn't negligible, and the very least I can do is make sure they won't struggle with seeing something I've made.

[fringe star]

i have 1 issue tho, i dont know how to help with monochromacy with just adjusting colors so im just gonna make badges for that

[native chasm]

Well yeah, that's the most problematic one ig. U could either make it lighter/darker or change she shape of object so they can be distinguished even if they appear to be same color

[fringe star]

i think i might be on the right path

im gonna add a setting at the start that adjusts unit colors

[native chasm]

I kinda like the fact that lines on water also show you that it's, well, water and not something else

[fringe star]

i try to make it as simplistic as possible

easy to understand

[fringe star]

it works

[lament ermine]

build my own UI script that makes a roundable rectangle gradient

some funny behaviours

I started out just wanting to make an outline component that wasn't ass

also, I get normal behaviour too, so it's totally usable

and it's functional as a outline

[signal monolith]

https://www.speedrun.com/crb
shame there's currently only one run(shameless plug)

[native chasm]

I've actually never even tried to speedrun it, lemme try xd

[tacit wasp]

I have a run on hand but I wanna see if I can do better before submitting
I did a lot of mistakes in the boss fight

[fringe star]

Imma try a run and just see how fast i can go

[native chasm]

the problem is, last stage of bossfight is like 10 fps on my potato laptop

and tbh the whole attack with like halves my fps

btw @signal monolith is there a feature to reset level and not entire run? like pressing R but not from beginning

[tacit wasp]

Only through the pause menu I think?

[tacit wasp]

I managed to do under 50 seconds, let's go
Probably gonna submit this one for now

[signal monolith]

Nah

[native chasm]

Sadge

[waxen trail]

Subathon ending in 56 hours 😔

[fringe star]

wait is it really ending?

[waxen trail]

I mean that's when the timer runs out and it's only +5 seconds per sub

[fringe star]

like theres no way for the swarm to increase the time?

o wait nvm

[tacit wasp]

They'll probably add an hour or two during the last hour like last year

[lament ermine]

https://youtu.be/QOQcZl14w9k behold, some of what we've changed

(damn you discord for making me have to turn this into a youtube video)

[native chasm]

and we are only like 3 days away from month long subathon

will be, when it ends*

[waxen trail]

True

[native chasm]

we need to raise the timer so it goes to 1 month

[molten shadow]

eh i'd rather it end if it continues as is

[native chasm]

but we're so close to 1 month, this can't be where it ends

[signal monolith]

you using the downloadable "no vulkan" version? it should work the best

[native chasm]

yea I was

[signal monolith]

sadge it doesn't run well

[tacit wasp]

To be fair, the subathon is more or less done in all but the timer

[waxen wasp]

We need to make the subathon long enough to the point that he is forced to play more game-jam games for content

But ye it probably won't last another week

[royal jewel]

It can end at the earliest on the 16th last I checked

Entirely possible for it to go to the 17th or 18th, but not much further

[tacit wasp]

How many hours would be needed to play all 270-something games minus the ones already played?

[royal jewel]

Loads

[waxen wasp]

Years

I don't think he will play more than 50 in this decade

[tacit wasp]

Time to break a new record then I guess

[royal jewel]

With Vedal speeds, assuming each game for a normal player on average is 1 hour, Vedal would take 2 or 3, then that means around 500 hours is probably reasonable

And that's 500 hours of awake time, with subathon sleep cycles around 3/4 of the day Vedal is no on stream

[tacit wasp]

There's a little game in the jam that has a pretty nice and sad ending but the character moves super slowly, I can't imagine how long Vedal would take on this game

[royal jewel]

Which means around 2000 hours would be needed to be added to the subathon timer

And note that all this is while normalizing a ton of variables to potentially reasonable averages

Which equates to around 1,44 million subs at the current rate of timer addition

So we can say around 1.5 million subs rounded

So yeah, not happening

We're not gifting 10x our current count

[signal monolith]

one with the robots, audio logs and bad platforming?

[tacit wasp]

Yeah, the audio logs specifically
I wouldn't call the platforming bad, the jumping physics was the problem

But to be fair to them, I think they mentioned that it was their first game and I remember my first game having even worse jumping physics than that so it's not too bad, just very annoying

[signal monolith]

gameplay wasn't very good but I really liked the story and the atmosphere

the game was also a bit too long imo, they shoul've cut out some audio logs

[tacit wasp]

I think the character just moves too slow
It takes like 3-5 minutes to go from one audio log to another

[atomic stream]

im not gonna be able to implement the integration before the subathon is over

[signal monolith]

Even one person can keep the subathon from ending if they are rich enough lol

[fringe star]

me too, neuro integration is out of my skillset

[atomic stream]

my sleep schedule has been completely destroyed so i havent had time to work on it the past few days

only gonna start working on my game again now

ill still try to implement it for the possible stream sometime later in the year

wait lmao i just realized i got a gift sub at some point

i was like "why the hell do i have super neuro fan role?"

[signal monolith]

I probably won't integrate it at all, because it doesn't fit my game at all

[royal jewel]

Yeah, not every kind of game works with the API

[native chasm]

Tbh there are always some people that gift a ton of stuff cuz they're rich

[signal monolith]

last hour will probalby last like 3 hours lol

[native chasm]

We need ani

[runic gate]

@fleet goblet With the Neuro SDK, if an action is forced but fails, does it constantly retry the same action with different parameters or can it choose a different action?

[signal basalt]

that would depend on where the action is failing, in your code, in the sdk, or at neuro/randy

I don't think actions are retried through

[violet surge]

forced ones will retry from what I understood, unless you set success to true
perhaps I misunderstood your question though

[atomic stream]

as far as i can tell, when it says it will retry the action force, it means it will retry any action listed in the action force, not necessarily the same one (since the action force takes a list of actions)

but thats just how i interpreted the spec

[runic gate]

If I sent the "fail" execution result in the "validate action" phase

[runic gate]

that's what I was hoping it was. I'd wait for a response from alex though. I wanna know if only the action that was initially chosen would again be re-ran with different parameters in a forced action window with mutliple actions

[charred hamlet]

I've had force actions fail with randy by sending back the fail execution result, Randy, at least, will spam other actions/parameters until it gets a success

[signal basalt]

I've had it spam retry when I forgot to set the get name function in the godot sdk

[atomic stream]

Yeah it would be nice to have a confirmation from alex

this sdk is really interesting

cant wait to get to implementing it even if neuro wont end up playing my game on the subathon

[fleet goblet]

[lament monolith]

I switched to linux after the game jam finished, but misplaced my files so I lost my blender files for the nwero and eliv models 👍

I still have the meshes and skeleton but I'll have to redo everything else

[waxen trail]

By the way @atomic stream I finally added linux native for Sea of Memories

Only took me ages

[atomic stream]

yippy!!!

[signal basalt]

ou I'll have to try it out

[atomic stream]

[cunning inlet]

I may have finally uploaded a few of my older projects onto my itch

you might see some of the inspiration of the game jam games I've made from one of them xd

[lament monolith]

She's back (I lost a week of progress and I lost all bone modifiers and drivers)

This is due to just reimporting the glTF file

[waxen wasp]

i wish importing gltf files worked better in blender

we use gltf too for our data, although we had to put all the data into numpy files for it to work on the web

beautifully cursed

[fringe star]

I just finish the first 6 new units, how about it?

[radiant skiff]

is this in scratch?

i recognise that font

[fringe star]

yes

believe it or not

[signal basalt]

whaaat!? holy smokes, that's crazy

very impressive

[atomic stream]

just looking at this gives me ptsd from robotics class and the lego spike scratch programming

[young blade]

Oooh fellow turbowarp user, happy to see it here

[signal basalt]

is griffpatch still on scratch? that guy was my oshi back when

[fringe star]

yeah i think so

[lament ermine]

got fakewindows that can be dragged and resized. The resizing is interfering with the close button, so closing the window has become a skill check but I will fix that later

[native chasm]

we are 6 hours away from subathon ending, someone tell ani there is a problem with our timer

[waxen trail]

I hope the post jam break isn't too long and that tutel will play some more of the jam games

[waxen wasp]

welp, one last plug for the road, idk how long this channel will exist

see yall next year, it has been a blast

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213324

[fringe star]

[tacit wasp]

Sure, only 6 hours left

I'm preparing myself to only go to sleep tomorrow at 10am

[cunning inlet]

he truly ended up not playing any more game jam games during the subathon despite having 270 hours on the timer huh

now I feel even more lucky that my game somehow perfectly landed on the border of the top 10 that he actually played

I was praying for top 20 cuz that's what he played last time

[tacit wasp]

The plan is probably to play more games once he's back from his vacation
Hopefully he'll play both games with and without the Neuro SDK

[cunning inlet]

oh and he never ended up playing Alex's game either now that I remember

and none of the SDK stuff either

[tacit wasp]

Anny had troubles those last few days tbh

[cunning inlet]

yeah I did hear that she did not have access to PC/internet, don't know what exactly happened tho

[earnest wind]

Anny had oral surgery

[cunning inlet]

oh, so not a technical difficulty, alright

[tacit wasp]

Her PC did break iirc but she also got surgery

[earnest wind]

I mean, before that she did but this week it was because of the oral surgery

[cunning inlet]

oh, so it was both

unlucky

[tacit wasp]

You know, I kinda hope this channel will stay until everyone (Vedal, Layna, etc.) is done playing the game jam games
Like it's a nice little alternative chat for all the devs to talk about the games being played on stream

[waxen wasp]

yall are welcome int he programming channel if not

[cunning inlet]

I do think this channel will stick around at least until Vedal is done playing the other top games on stream and Neuro has experienced the SDK-integrated games

or at the very least I can assure that Alex will personally keep this channel alive until his game gets played on stream

[earnest wind]

yeah... in 3 month

[tacit wasp]

I mean, that's nice
Leave enough time for as many people as possible to understand the SDK and implement it

[cunning inlet]

that's a good point actually, leave this channel around in case anyone decides to integrate SDK during break after subathon and runs into issues

[native chasm]

What are the chances that stream will end within next 5 hours I'll be asleep?

[void parcel]

id be surprised if it ends this century

[tacit wasp]

I fully believe I'll see the sun rises before the stream ends

[placid salmon]

Once this channel gets archived I'll be gone until the next game jam I guess, I don't like the programming channel.

[void parcel]

yeah.. i find it hard to interact in fast chats and this basically acted like a more chill general channel so ill be sad to see it go. it was a fun time though and im glad i decided to join this year

[civic fractal]

I respect you opinion, if you ever change your mind I'll be happy to see you in programming channel

[tacit wasp]

Yeah this
I'm getting used to #livestream-chat but I don't know if I'll ever be in channels like general or nn

[placid salmon]

Thank you.
If anyone has questions about game development/game jams or want feedback about their games feel free to reach out to me though.

[rotund rampart]

how make gam

[void parcel]

copy paste code from stack exchange

[placid salmon]

First decide why you want to make the game, if it's for fun and learning or commercial.
Second decide what game you want to make, and limit your scope based on your experience.
Finally pick a game engine and just do it.

But you already know all of that since you made a great game.

[rotund rampart]

I like this more, less work

HAHA

I'm kidding

the chat's been fun while it lasted

[unreal plinth]

Got my last polish update in before the end of the subathon.
Now to start work on all the additional stuff I've thought up in time for whenever Vedal's break ends. More levels of increasing difficulty, a tutorial and ending, some additional player actions, and adding Neuro SDK .
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3210589

Good luck to anyone else planning on implementing the Neuro SDK!
Hope there's lots waiting for Vedal when he comes back so that he can see more of the awesome jam games everyone made.

[radiant skiff]

okay where the hell do we put api games

does anyone have any info

[tacit wasp]

There should be a thread or something like that available soon iirc

[rotund rampart]

last hour

[native chasm]

ChadGTP

[native chasm]

I woke up like a hour ago and it was a hour left and I thought "well I can sleep more" and it's still over 30 mins lol

This community is truly amazing

[lament ermine]

did some UI stuff

[native chasm]

12 hours until stream turns exactly 4 weeks long

[tacit wasp]

Please no

[waxen trail]

No way, I never expected stream to last this long

[native chasm]

this community is actually so crazy (in a good way)
1st place on current active subs on Twitch

[fringe star]

how long is the final hour right now?

[rotund rampart]

Real question is, how long is the final minute

[waxen trail]

https://tenor.com/view/stanley-parable-the-end-repeat-text-gif-2514380344884071336

[fringe star]

it went back to 10 mins

[waxen trail]

I'm going to miss the subathon and its many good moments but I'm also really looking forward to regular streams again someday after the break

[fringe star]

do you think vedal will still do the goodnight talk with neuro and evil during the regular streams?

[tacit wasp]

I doubt it tbh
We'll probably go back to the "STREAM IS ENDING SOON" message

[fringe star]

i will hope that it happens

late night serious talk is one of the best content ive ever seen alongside the collabs and longdrive

[pale iron]

[tacit wasp]

There's two parts of my brain fighting to decide if staying awake all night was a good idea

[fringe star]

the timer is still fighting

[pale iron]

Do you guys think it will last 6 hours?

Nvm I give up

[waxen trail]

Me worried that if I grab some food the subathon will end and I'll miss it
Come back to see that the timer is more than 20 minutes

Evil is playing cookie clicker using a mod someone made with the API

[tacit wasp]

We can now see the full potential of the SDK

[civic fractal]

It is not the neuro version

[foggy hearth]

It was me
https://github.com/EnterpriseScratchDev/neuro-cookie-clicker

I'm surprised she's not buying more buildings and upgrades. Every 5 seconds she's getting a bunch of information on what she can afford to buy

I guess this is a good illustration of how you can't rely on Neuro/Evil to execute actions in a timely manner

[royal jewel]

How about porting it to Neuro clicker, the Neuro version of Cookie clicker with refactored code and various visual changes? That would be quite cool

[winged jay]

Because they might be stupid

[foggy hearth]

I haven't heard of that. I assume it's on GitHub somewhere?

[royal jewel]

I think Promote has it on GitHub for the web version and I have a local repo for code changes

[foggy hearth]

I think she's probably just distracted by everything else going on. I think it'd work a lot better on a solo chill stream

[royal jewel]

https://neurosama.click/
This is the web version, it will need to be run locally for Neuro integration though I believe

Let me see if I can find the GitHub for it somewhere

https://github.com/repoclones/neuroclicker-prod
I believe this is the repo

@foggy hearth Does that seem like the thing you wanted?

[foggy hearth]

It looks like it would be easy to port my mod over. My mod depends on CCSE right now, but I was thinking of refactoring to remove that dependency.

[royal jewel]

Would be cool
Do you need a thing that can host the game locally and read environment variables or are you fine figuring it out yourself?

[foggy hearth]

Uhh Im not sure. I only tested on the steam version, and that's what Vedal is using

[royal jewel]

Well, Neuro clicker is based on the web version
What did you use to get the WS address?

[foggy hearth]

I made an in-game option

[royal jewel]

Oh, ok then
That should just be portable over, you just need to be able to run the thing on localhost with something

[signal monolith]

I love all of you people, I hope this channel will live for a while more

[foggy hearth]

Man they just don't want to buy a bank

[signal monolith]

I respect that

[foggy hearth]

Okay I know exactly why they're not buying banks but the root cause is that they are a lil bit dumb

In order to not overwhelm them with useless information, I limited their knowledge of the store to just the 5 cheapest upgrades and the 5 cheapest buildings. Because they're playing the game like a couple psychos and aren't buying the cheap stuff, the bank (the 6th and most expensive building) doesn't exist to them. I wrote in the action description that they need to input the exact name of the things they want to buy so they're -

SHE DID IT

[azure light]

Pls let the subathon end

[tardy flint]

Vedal got 2100 subs in the last 3-4 hours. I know he wants it to end, but I also know he knows thats...10k dollars for playing a driving game for a little bit more

thats why he didnt want to spin

[native chasm]

The end is never near

[azure light]

[foggy hearth]

They have almost 10 million cookies and aren't buying a Cursor for 40

[tacit wasp]

I somewhat respect the hustle
I don't care if you're gonna give me a million, if I'm sleep-deprived and a minute away from ending the stream for +10 hours, I would do everything to stop the subathon

[azure light]

[native chasm]

Why would you need a cursor with 10m cookies

[tardy flint]

well, thats...an opinion

[tacit wasp]

Maybe I'm just mixing up my opinion as a viewer, I dunno

[exotic mulch]

Now that I think about it, I could make a very simple drawing program specialized for Neuro

[native chasm]

And that's how A Bandoned Rchive started...

[foggy hearth]

They hate it

[waxen trail]

I think that's the real takeaway

But I think most viewers and Vedal think it's cool

[native chasm]

Meanwhile some ppl in #general-network curse gifters with all curses known to humanity

[waxen wasp]

These stats are crazy

Someone came from tiktok, i didnt know someone posted the link on tiktok

[waxen trail]

THE END

SUBATHON ENDED

[native chasm]

Noway

There was someone who gifted 5 subs but they were too late lmao

[waxen trail]

Neuro & Evil return Early February, Vedal returns later than that (let him cook!)

[waxen wasp]

I am curious now

Lemme search

Cant find it

If someone knows where they came from, ping me

[waxen trail]

@placid salmon tutel rancher made it to the subathon highlights by the way

Same with @cunning inlet 's Evil's Malice

Both were in the clip at the end

[cunning inlet]

I woke up like 7 minutes ago

[waxen trail]

Gud morning, just in time muahaha

[cunning inlet]

I feel like I'm missing out, but I understand what's going on, I'm just waiting for it to end so I can watch vod

[waxen trail]

Yeah don't worry

Most people who waited for the subathon to end ended up waiting super long since it was on 1 minute for the longest time

[tacit wasp]

Can confirm

[winter aurora]

I literally woke up with ~40s in the timer kinda just before the end

[fringe star]

once the subathon is over they will probably close the gamejam section?

[signal monolith]

I've seen most of the timer and it was edging on another level

[native chasm]

It's already over

[signal monolith]

it ended

[fringe star]

i see, so where should we go once this part of the server goes into the archives?

[signal monolith]

maybe forums or something

like a gamedev thread

[fringe star]

is it like okay to make one tho?

[native chasm]

Idk #programming ?

[signal monolith]

probably

idk

[native chasm]

We could have a "post-game-jame" thread ig

[civic fractal]

As much as I'd recommend #programming (Mods please just keep this channel alive instead or make a dedicated games channel)
It has never been a place for game devs, I don't want to see this die out just because of a channel not accepting every talented person here.

[signal monolith]

I think pure programming is pretty different than game dev

and attracts different people

[civic fractal]

I say this as a very active member of #programming

[fringe star]

programming is pure programming as far as i look into it

[signal monolith]

so it makes sense to make them seperate

[waxen trail]

Iirc Vanor said that we should create a gamedev thread in the forum

[signal monolith]

I think we should

[fringe star]

so who wants to make one?

[tacit wasp]

That'd be cool to have

[civic fractal]

You'd be going through the same idea as https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1202464797921247272

That forum thread is soon getting it's own channel if all goes well

[lament ermine]

I've messages from Heir advocating for an artist channel since months

not sure how likely it is we get our own channel

[civic fractal]

I'm slightly more updated, serious talks start post subathon

[fringe star]

i see, so our best bet if this sector goes into the archives is to make a forum

[lament ermine]

also, I have an audio player and image displayer working

[waxen trail]

@tardy geyser Sorry for the ping but since this place will likely get archived, do we have your blessing to have a gamedev general forum thread instead? 🥺

[civic fractal]

It is being considered as a real possibility now

[fringe star]

[civic fractal]

I'd do it, if we have mods then it is easier to redirect

[waxen trail]

Wow there's a serious text wall at the start of the artist general thread #1202464797921247272 message

[tardy geyser]

the gamedev thread will definitely happen, i'll sync with the channel close to keep everyone informed

(i'm sure the mods are just slightly tired to do it now, so we'll let you guys know )

[violet surge]

thanks mods

[civic fractal]

[waxen trail]

Oh wait so you mods will set it up? please post it here when you do before the channel gets archived, I'd love to join it!!!

[forest star]

What do you mean the mods are tired ? Cloudburst is fine

[fringe star]

btw

we chat alot

[waxen trail]

Ok but how many of these are shameless plugs

[tacit wasp]

[civic fractal]

We do chat quite a bit

[lament ermine]

at most 1000 are plugs

[signal monolith]

better than I thought lol

[civic fractal]

I'll be very happy to have a channel like this if the future to continue to talk with you guys on

[tacit wasp]

How many of those plugs are for Rolling Girl?

[civic fractal]

[signal monolith]

yeah, vibes are pretty cool here

[tacit wasp]

Yeah, it was a pretty nice channel to talk to
Nice vibes and more slow-paced than the other channels

[fringe star]

[tacit wasp]

That's less than I expected, ngl

[signal monolith]

51 straight plugs with links

also ??????

[civic fractal]

Can someone match /jam/neuro/rate for total plugs

[signal monolith]

like why

[fringe star]

[signal monolith]

is my game really so similar to celeste xd

?

[civic fractal]

Badge of honor

[signal monolith]

huh?

celeste is 3d

I didnt know

[fringe star]

[tacit wasp]

Celeste64 is

[signal monolith]

it isn't listed here

only two pico-8 ones

[tacit wasp]

Then I guess it's tags related to your game even if it randomly shows two Celeste games

[fringe star]

is it under related games?

[signal monolith]

yes

[civic fractal]

@placid salmon You don't get to leave yet

[signal monolith]

there are exactly two related games, and these are: celeste classic and celeste 2 classic

[fringe star]

this is... unique?

[signal monolith]

yours is 10 times weirder

[fringe star]

i think itch is bugging

[signal monolith]

I don't see the resemblance either

[civic fractal]

The last thumbnail

[fringe star]

i see horror, platformer and defender but no tactics

[signal monolith]

btw, any of you ever tried to make a game for pico-8, you have to buy it, but it's very cool

[tacit wasp]

Where do I find this?

[tacit wasp]

I don't have it, nice

[signal monolith]

it's 100% useless and schizo anyway

[winter aurora]

[fringe star]

YOOOOO

[signal monolith]

at least this one makes sense

idk what was itch.io smoking before

[fringe star]

"romania"

[civic fractal]

WHERE?

[tacit wasp]

Welcome to the club

[signal monolith]

it's like random

and makes 0 sense most of the time

bruh.io

[tacit wasp]

I think it may depends on the tags you've added to your game?

[fringe star]

i think if theres nothing, its doesnt have anything related

[tacit wasp]

Like mine doesn't have much to go with

[fringe star]

according to ItCh.Eo

[civic fractal]

One of a kind experience

Could add more tags but nearing 4am

[fringe star]

where do i find the tags?

[winter aurora]

wait, did 2 game removed themself

[fringe star]

i think so

[winter aurora]

o7

[fringe star]

o7

[tacit wasp]

It's almost 1pm here and I haven't sleep at all, should I go to bed and wake up in the evening?

[tacit wasp]

Weren't those games that were taken down during the voting phase?

[civic fractal]

Did "blank file so vedal isn't in last place" get removed?

[winter aurora]

nope we were at 277 at the end of voting (from what I remember)

[fringe star]

it was already removed before, along with abandoned archive copy

[winter aurora]

cet viewer ! (like me )
depend on what you have to do (for example college) . but most likely yes (but caution with your sleep shedule)

[civic fractal]

Nah, it was the AA rip and Person just submitting a game off topic (and to 3 jams)

[fringe star]

i remember alex removing it

[civic fractal]

Those are the two I remeber

[fringe star]

still, i cant believe all of us were able to make all these good games under 3 days

[civic fractal]

I'm impressed we built our surrounding game considering how crippled the engine is.

Song was a masterpiece, still is in my normal rotation

[sour horizon]

Wait this it the pygame game? Ooh, I'm impressed

[civic fractal]

Yep thats our game

As a gentle reminder, pygame is a 2d engine

[native chasm]

which one was yours?

[tacit wasp]

Hey fellow CET person :vedalWave: i don't have nitro
Thankfully, I don't have any class today so I got lucky in a way that the ending of the subathon was today
But yeah I'm definitely going to bed I think, I know I just don't have enough energy to do anything, I'll just stare at my screen

[tacit wasp]

Wait, that's true
You guys are insane

[civic fractal]

https://igglybuff-ever.itch.io/a-neuro-who-cant-sing

[native chasm]

oh that's pygame?

wth

[civic fractal]

How we only had one dev is beyond me

[native chasm]

wth

[royal jewel]

The song truly was great

The absolute highlight

[civic fractal]

Also only one artist for all of the scenes

[winter aurora]

(if you connect to your twitch account to your discord account and you are sub to vedal's channel then you can get channel even with no nitro ! but no gif emote)
Good that you have no class ! good "night"
and try not to fuck your sleep schedule too much

[civic fractal]

Modeling conidered seprate

[royal jewel]

It's silly how our game was built basically to show off Neuro RVC

[civic fractal]

I was glad to be the songwriter!

[royal jewel]

You did well, it's really good

[tacit wasp]

It's been fucked for years, I'll be fine
(Didn't know that, will try when I'll be awake. Gotta make sure I enjoy the gift sub I received until the very end)

[winter aurora]

understandable
goodnight again

[civic fractal]

Still want to do that again sometime, at least our composer is on board!

[tacit wasp]

Thanks! Good afternoon

[royal jewel]

I'm ready with Wispers any time if you want to make more songs

[civic fractal]

I am so down to do more custom neuro songs

[royal jewel]

They're very cool, our stuff is very powerful

[civic fractal]

But also just in general

[royal jewel]

I really like how good Neuro V11 and Evil V7 are

I think we're pretty much at the quality level of the actual Neuros, the difference in voice is very minimal

[civic fractal]

I await your attempt on chinatown snooze, Apparently since you suggested it a SynthV version has appeared

[royal jewel]

There is a SynthV version, but I'm quite sure that one is not on Neuro V11

Or is using it wrong

So ours will likely be superior on Neuro accuracy

Vedal? Who knows, we're just going off of the free data from the subathon

[civic fractal]

It isn't the most "singing" type of vocals for him

[royal jewel]

The data we got should be perfectly fine for it

Not much cleaning needed for that data, so it's likely to be a decently good quality model

[civic fractal]

I'm gonna head off, also so others can use this channel again. All I'll say is that this tooling isn't excusivly ours, you can use these things yourself as well!

[royal jewel]

Yeah, if you need help with things feel free to ask me

We made these Neuro RVC models for everyone to use (with credit)

[winged jay]

Vaza made it onto the subathon subgoal timeline

[placid salmon]

Awesome! I missed it

[placid salmon]

Cool, I like talking with other game devs from Neuro cord

[hollow barn]

Hi I'm am artist

I missed the game jam

[pale iron]

You are very late.

[winter aurora]

Nah, 11 month in advance

[pale iron]

True unless there is also going to be one for evil

[hollow barn]

Will I need to be evil to enter that one

Because I'll need to get started to prepare for that

I'm too goodboypilled right now

[pale iron]

For some reason I don’t believe you

[hollow barn]

[fringe star]

sus

[rotund rampart]

26 of these are my plugs

[rotund rampart]

Hi I am game jam

[void parcel]

JOHN GAME JAM?!

https://tenor.com/view/noway-gif-254273188714127328

[hollow barn]

Oh glad you're here then. Hi

[bright raven]

There might not be a game jam for Evil's birthday but there will be something. (This is a pre-announcement kind of)

I'm going to be looking for a team to make a game as a birthday present for Evil. It's a real-time Vedal vs giant robot boss Evil game. Evil chooses what attacks the boss uses like in a card game and it tracks which attacks are most effective.

(And if Vedal manages to win it's still a happy ending for Evil)

[waxen wasp]

the 27th place is shared apparently

thats interesting

[hollow barn]

Will you need an artist

[bright raven]

Likely multiple artists, music, ideally other programmers, and someone who knows a lot about boss design.

[hollow barn]

Hm ok I'd be interested in doing some art when the time comes if I'm not busy with something else at that point

[bright raven]

I'll probably make the official post sometime next week.

[waxen wasp]

i only do game-engine dev so cant help you

[fringe star]

im a specialist who uses a specific engine, im sorry but i cant assist

[south hazel]

aight subathon is over

game jam

[waxen wasp]

cant wait for the next one

[radiant skiff]

oh hey, that's me!

:D

wow

i didn't know that was possible

[rotund rampart]

yessir, the one and only

[rotund rampart]

we will meet back here in 11 months time for the next jam

[waxen wasp]

third game jam, probably again with my own game engine.
il be on V3 by then

[sour horizon]

just a midnight brain dump and might sound weird, but
I was thinking next time maybe we (ie. people here) could organize something like playing each others' games on a stream or something
I could imagine something relay-like, as with the karaoke events
not sure how many would be interested tho
or I dunno, maybe vtubing is contagious and I'll end up streaming next time

[waxen wasp]

layna is still planning on playing game-jam games iirc

on stream

unless she changed her mind

[sour horizon]

oh right, she updated the schedule

it seems she's planning it on 21th

[tacit wasp]

You are not safe from becoming a Vtuber and start streaming yourself

[rotund rampart]

I'd rather turn myself into an AI Vtuber

[tacit wasp]

Ah yes, "Twitch: Become AI"

[waxen wasp]

David Cage has done it again!!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/markus-detroit-become-human-androids-david-cage-raise-hands-gif-19905812

absolute cinema

[waxen trail]

Yoooo I'd love that would be up for streaming myself playing some games too

[rotund rampart]

I will be in y'alls chat plugging my game

[fringe star]

thats cool af and I would like to join

[placid salmon]

From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.

[leaden ledge]

before this channel got archived i just wanna say u guys did a great job

[waxen wasp]

You too

[atomic stream]

everyone did great this jam was epic :3

cant wait for next year

well i guess this year

[civic fractal]

Nah Rolling girl needs to be first

[rotund rampart]

next year, we should keep plugging rolling girl

[civic fractal]

Not even in the first year did someone plug that much

One for the history books

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

someone should play this

[small radish]

literally not a single bit of audio and still got some ratings above 1 star
did not deserve those .278 points

[lavish escarp]

Agreed

[atomic stream]

same happened on mine im so confused lol

[lavish escarp]

Im pretty happy with it tho, it being the first game I've finished

Still astonished that I made something playable

I'm gonna study shaders and practice 3d modelling and animation across 2025 in prep for the next one

I'm kinda scared tho, it'd be mildly insane if the community got bigger, this years subathon being as wild as it was like with the swarm edging the timer at sub 1 minute

[atomic stream]

this is probably the biggest game jam ive particiapted in

[old adder]

people might rate it as average and if the sound is actually bad rate those lower

[atomic stream]

even bigger than the global game jam in my local site

[lavish escarp]

^ making earrape is easy

[atomic stream]

ah true

i mean if the sound was that bad id probably mute the game and so i would rate it the same as having no audio

[rotund rampart]

sometimes, some sequences are so embed in the mind that you can HEAR a soundless scene, in this case, pew pew and boom boom just autofills in people's head

[rotund rampart]

which one was yours? I know that some games I gave audio score thinking there was audio

sometimes people might even have music on youtube while they're playing and just mistaken it as in game music

[atomic stream]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212673

[rotund rampart]

pretty sure it wasn't me this time

[rotund rampart]

next year, we'll have 300k subs

[native chasm]

Same

[native chasm]

I wish I could call my game "something playable" lol

[atomic stream]

you can change how itchio refers to your project

[lavish escarp]

i gave mine neurotic experience

[lavish escarp]

i was so close to the same fate

[lavish escarp]

more people to plug to

[civic fractal]

Get out of my head!

[lavish escarp]

actual fucking infohazard

[fringe star]

?

[small radish]

rolling girl is in your walls it's in your walls IT'S IN YOUR WALLS IT'S IN YOUR WALLS

[lavish escarp]

you'd understand if you played the game

[fringe star]

oh

i got softlocked a couple of times i think

ran out of ammo

[lavish escarp]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

give it another shot

[fringe star]

crashed

[rotund rampart]

Rolling girl is in your wifi

[lavish escarp]

im working on other projects now unfortunately but i hope to revisit the mechanics and expand on it

i think i could make something really interesting

[fringe star]

its really fun

but i think(personal opinion no need to listen) that bullets should have a minimum range, i can snipe enemies out of range with memory

[native chasm]

Do I have to roll R's when pronouncing "rolling girl"?

[lavish escarp]

its still the 72 hour version, im pretty happy with the shooting mechanics, its the enemies i need to change

[fringe star]

ohhh, nice

[lavish escarp]

however, i am an artist before i am a programmer, and i know i can do WAY better for the art

but before i revisit, im gonna learn more shaders and script based animation techniques

cuz i do like the fact that its not true pixels

the pixel art is in any orientation

[fringe star]

[sour horizon]

did someone mention walls

[rotund rampart]

You need to spin when saying it

And vineboom

[tacit wasp]

Do we also get bonus points if we fall off a hill while spinning?

[native chasm]

And also roll R's while rolling off a cliff

RRRolling ƃᴉɹɹɹl vineboom

[waxen wasp]

everywhere i go, i see

[cunning inlet]

funnily enough, even though I've seen Rolling Girl everywhere, that's the one game I've specifically gone out of my way to not play xdd

[waxen wasp]

fair enough

i want to play more of them but i got really busy

[cunning inlet]

I'm still keeping an eye out on a few games I saw potential in and want to see an expansion of, namely "Neuro-sama and the forgotten world"

[fringe star]

rolling girl is really fun and short

so here

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[signal monolith]

I haven't plugged my game for a few days lol
I really recommend playing my game and submiting a run to speedrun.com. I put a lot of effort for it to be very speedrun friendly, it's even better now with couple of postjam updates.
https://www.speedrun.com/crb
https://jaceideu.itch.io/crazy-robot-body-blast-from-the-past

[fringe star]

[native chasm]

Btw have y'all seen this game, it was quite nice yet nobody seems to notice it
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[fringe star]

i think the embed isnt loading lemme try

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[hazy totem]

Look at this cool game I found
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[atomic stream]

so nice of you to support a little known game like that 😌

[rotund rampart]

someone should try this
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[waxen wasp]

[somber slate]

what

[signal basalt]

man I sure wish there was some bullet hell game with a popular neuro karaoke song as it's name for me to play

[lavish escarp]

you dont say?

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[signal basalt]

oh, awesome!

[old adder]

rolling girl was too hard for me

[fringe star]

The links aren't showing for me wait a sec

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[wanton vigil]

playing that game while listening to ultrakill is fun

[hasty drift]

plugging girl, plugging girl

[lavish escarp]

watashi wa kyou mo plug shiteimasu

[hasty drift]

nani?!

[signal monolith]

Can someone tell me what sucks about my game? I really want to improve so it would be very useful. Be as blunt as possible.

[waxen wasp]

lemme take a look

in my own opinion, the camera movement feels a bit limited.
i would prefer if you could look up further. idk if im a fan of the non-centered rotation axis either

when i click back into the game it doesnt absorb my mouse

[signal monolith]

Thank you, I wont try to refute any of that, it's helpful, keep going if you can

[waxen wasp]

i kept dying at the last phase of the boss fight

was fun tho

i agree with the score your game got

the visuals were cool and definitly fits the vibe of your game

idk about the very round text tho

the sound effects were good although slightly repetitive after a while

[signal monolith]

It's the font that is used for neuro stuff by vedal, was it hard on the eyes, unreadable, or just didnt fit?

[waxen wasp]

it was moslty readable, sometimes there was white stuff behind the white text so maybe a drop shadow?
my main problem with it is that it didnt feel like it fits

its a good game tho, a deserved 18th place

[signal monolith]

I'll try to be top 10 next time, any things I did wrong, I shouldn't repeat next time?

[waxen wasp]

nah, it was great

[signal monolith]

where was white stuff behind the text?

any screenshot or something

[waxen wasp]

it was after i beat the boss and it asked me to hug

[waxen wasp]

we're also aiming for top 10 next year
(like most people i guess)

[signal monolith]

thx, I missed that one

[waxen wasp]

no problem

[signal monolith]

I agree, in retrospect it's a bit too cutesy, while the game goes for a cool and edgy vibe

[waxen wasp]

[signal monolith]

I should've pick more futuristic font

[waxen wasp]

this game would look great on an OLED screen

[signal monolith]

I think my biggest takeaway is to follow the jam's theme more

because my game barely even qualifies xd

it costed me to most score

[waxen wasp]

still got 75th on theme

[signal monolith]

because it was somehow present, lol

[waxen wasp]

we got 80th in theme even though we felt that we followed the theme quite well

i guess the players didnt understand

[signal monolith]

what's your game again?

[waxen wasp]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213324

[signal monolith]

I also didn't know theme "explanation" would be visible to other people

in retrospect I should've explain it better

[waxen wasp]

ill be looking forward to what you make next year!

[signal monolith]

thx, I hope you're next game will be even better next year too

[fringe star]

this is goodshit

[waxen wasp]

thanks

our main issues were the parts that i was responsible for, so ill have to step up my game next year

literally and figuratively

[royal jewel]

Are we gonna make another song next year? The song was fun to make

[waxen wasp]

we can

its not really my place to say since i didnt work on it

but if weegee and iggly are down next year and the theme allows for it i dont see why not

[royal jewel]

It's certainly a cool thing we're capable of

So it would kinda make sense to do something like that again

[warm rampart]

If another song is required next year, Ill still be here

[lament ermine]

Nice thing about CLI game is that it's easy to see how llms will play it

just copy paste

[native chasm]

idk the only thing I disliked was lags when neuro was launching a bunch of bullets as ring

also would be nice if u included feature for fast level reset, like pressing R to go to checkpoint

and ofc not adding this plug in your game is a huge blunder
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[waxen wasp]

I wouldnt say required but we would love to have you

[civic fractal]

I'm also down to do so again

[warm rampart]

Hopefully I will have upped my skills by next time!

[warm rampart]

Gladly

[waxen wasp]

same

i need to break the 3000fps barrier

[rotund rampart]

When is this channel dying?

[waxen wasp]

not soon i hope

layna is still gonna play game-jam games

im hoping they'l wait till the new thread get created

my personal favorite but most unlikely is a rebrand to game-dev

[rotund rampart]

that would be nice

[tacit wasp]

I remember one of the mods saying that it was possible but they would need to see if the need for it is worth it, if we're active in the thread and all that

Which is why I suggest spamming the thread with thousand of Rolling Girl plugs once it's available to show how much we care about game dev

[waxen wasp]

i will eventually be using it

after im done with the current hydrodynamics project

[royal jewel]

I'll be ready with my RVC models any time

[rotund rampart]

ROLLING GIRL

[waxen wasp]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[rotund rampart]

I mean you guys should start posting game dev discussions here

[waxen wasp]

i wish i could, but hydrodynamics.
im pulling my hair out cuz reynold is a bitch

[rotund rampart]

I'll start, monogame > unity, start the discussion

[tacit wasp]

Never heard of it

It's a framework for C#?