2024-game-jam

[waxen wasp]

since here

[robust meteor]

Is there a place where rhe gamejam games are? I wanna play them

[native chasm]

That game should've been #1 on creativity imho

[civic fractal]

Does our local version have fullscreen

[waxen wasp]

on the itch page, which is down rn

[waxen wasp]

no

browser version does tho

[robust meteor]

The itch page that was telling of it and rules?

[waxen wasp]

you need to go to the submissions page

[misty tree]

yay that went so well 🎉

[tacit wasp]

I don't have window scaling nor fullscreen too, shit

[quick badger]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/results

[royal jewel]

The local version does appear to follow the browser window size though

[robust meteor]

Thank you

[tardy geyser]

why fps

[civic fractal]

what is fps?

[hasty drift]

nice cheapest vm available, vedal

[waxen wasp]

they're hardcoded at 1080p, but the itchio embed page has a fullscreen button

[quick badger]

I think its dead rn but it will come back eventually

[royal jewel]

For me it runs filling up the browser window on local

[waxen wasp]

hmmm, interesting

[winged jay]

no neuro's were harmed in this game.

[native chasm]

He's actually going for most kills or what

3 bodies for that jump is damn crazy

[waxen wasp]

, must have something to do with embedding in your packager

[royal jewel]

I doubt it, it literally just serves files

[tacit wasp]

Neuro didn't like that line I think

[waxen wasp]

i read that as hammered , i might be dyslexic.

[hasty drift]

holy bitrate

[waxen wasp]

i dont really know how the python to wasm conversion works tbh, ill just not question it

[royal jewel]

Might just be the default way it displays when not ran as an embed

[native chasm]

I read your message as hammed and thought "what does it have to do with ham"

[waxen wasp]

we're both dyslexic

[past meadow]

Where is the text?

Finally

[native chasm]

How long will it take him to find it?

Oh he found it

[tardy geyser]

he found it

[hasty drift]

thats sick af mechanic

[waxen wasp]

didnt take too long. impressive, for him at least

[signal monolith]

anybody wants to test the newest version of crb?

[native chasm]

Maybe later

3 am for me xd

[waxen wasp]

if vedal wasnt playing rn, then sure

so maybe tomorrow

2am also

[tacit wasp]

True programmer

[sour horizon]

yeah 2am here to, I think I'll do some sleeping
good night everyone

[hasty drift]

good night

[waxen wasp]

goodnight

[native chasm]

Gn

[signal monolith]

good night

[tardy geyser]

gn shard

[hasty drift]

2am here too, same timezone represent

[tacit wasp]

Good night

2am here too let's gooo

[placid salmon]

Good night!

[signal monolith]

It's 2 am for me but I broken my sleep schedule very much

so I'm not going to sleep lol

[past meadow]

4am

[native chasm]

So many ppl at same timezone lol

[hasty drift]

gmt+1 gang

[signal monolith]

is itchio dead again?

[past meadow]

Wouldn't be surprised

[native chasm]

all Neuros

[hasty drift]

thats why itch delayed fixing the results, they knew itd die right after result release

[signal monolith]

It died several times before tbf

[native chasm]

I hope he doesn't get stuck here as well

[tacit wasp]

This puzzle is probably the hardest in the game so we might be here for a while

[native chasm]

It was the most fun tho and I definitely didn't do it intended way

[waxen wasp]

bro does not know about the presure plate

[native chasm]

Bro forgot about it

[placid salmon]

Bro, I wasn't watching the stream and he legit is playing the game at the speed of my windows XP I used to have running Minecraft

[native chasm]

What is he even doing lol

[waxen wasp]

my disappointment is immeasurable

[winged jay]

tower made of Neuro's

[waxen wasp]

he isnt overthinking, he's underthinking

[native chasm]

Alex also tried that lmao

[hasty drift]

1fps more like 1 corpse per second

[waxen wasp]

insanely high cps

[hasty drift]

noway he got it

[waxen wasp]

oooh, the pit

[native chasm]

The way I did it was jumping and grabbing neuro mid air

I haven't even used these spikes on top iirc

[tacit wasp]

What will he cook?

[waxen wasp]

nooooo

he was so close

[native chasm]

He will burn down the kitchen

[cunning inlet]

I no longer feel as bad about him not completing this game, I now just feel sorry for the guy that made this game having to watch Vedal play it

[old adder]

[earnest wind]

cloud gaming

[hasty drift]

he is blind

[native chasm]

Wtf is he doing?

[tacit wasp]

He sure did

[signal monolith]

blame alex for making vedal paranoid lol

[hasty drift]

his best apparently

[old adder]

im losing brain cells

[marsh swan]

yeah xDDD imagine this being a showcase for your game

[waxen wasp]

i cant, this is madnes

[hasty drift]

???

[signal monolith]

1# tech vtuber plays the game at 5 fps

[old adder]

[marsh swan]

also im sure u know it but its not your fault your game was fantastic! Vedal just has skill issue :P

[cunning inlet]

copilot could play better than this KEK

[tacit wasp]

Poor guy
Game don't have fullscreen, runs at a second per frame and Vedal has a skill issue

[earnest wind]

I've seen some gamejam who require people to make their game web playable, maybe we could do that next year too?

[tardy geyser]

but i liked the gameboy game, very creative

[tacit wasp]

It was already the case here

Not required but encouraged

[waxen wasp]

vedal does have a ti-84, he could play it

[hasty drift]

removes corpse, places corpse at exact same spot again

[signal monolith]

probably should be required, but I know some engines cant do that

[old adder]

-100 submissions

[cunning inlet]

I was mostly just hoping that the chat gets the full experience live on stream, I was looking forward to the chat spamming "absolute cinema" as the credits roll, but that imagination didn't quite come true xd

[native chasm]

He's farming body count

[waxen wasp]

brother, the presure plate

please

[winged jay]

rpg maker mv beckons

[hasty drift]

i swear people loose 20 iq when live on stream

[tacit wasp]

I don't think there's a velocity in his brain

[tardy geyser]

trust, this is true

[quick badger]

not cooking, just cooked

[marsh swan]

yeah :/ great game though and also because he didnt finish it on stream a lot of people will want to see the ending :P

[tacit wasp]

Yo Koko's gonna play our games too

[signal monolith]

Idk which is worse: vedal not playing my game at all or vedal playing my game at 5 fps, not completing the game

[winged jay]

all of them

[hasty drift]

slowrun no%

[cunning inlet]

I did see a sudden surge of extra downloads before itch went down

10 yesterday, 14 today, both on v1.1

[native chasm]

If you combine iq of vedal and his daughters, it will be about -5. And not because of daughters...

[quick badger]

its back online for me

[hasty drift]

last year he played more than 10 games. it might be that he continues playing 10-20 another time

[civic fractal]

I feek like Sam would flip a table if our game ran less than 60fps

[waxen wasp]

true

[hasty drift]

last year he played in... April month

[waxen wasp]

local version rn at 2000fps

[signal monolith]

my game will definetly not run well on his vm, I fortunetly have a web export

[hasty drift]

he might just play it in browser and it will be fine

[marsh swan]

I added webversion of my game yesterday xD

now i think it was a great idea

[signal monolith]

I would be cool if he played mine, it has 18th place, I'm really happy anyway because alex played it today

and it destroyed his eardrums lol

[hasty drift]

nice

[marsh swan]

thats awesome!

[native chasm]

I wish vedal won't ragequit this puzzle cuz I wanna know how many Neuros he killed

[hasty drift]

i played your game at new years eve lol

[signal monolith]

this music is slowly driving me mad

it probably wasn't designed to be listened to for 20 hours

[winged jay]

what music

[waxen wasp]

the music isnt bad but weve heard it for 40 min by now

[tacit wasp]

It's funny, the music don't affect me now, didn't affect me when I played the game but made me insane when I was on Layna's stream for some reason

[native chasm]

On stream

[signal monolith]

ingame music in game vedal is playing

[winged jay]

I can hear vedal and neuro but not the music, I'm saved

[rotund rampart]

Why is the game running at 5ps

[native chasm]

I think that kinda fits what's happened in game lol

[signal monolith]

vedal vm's skill issue

[native chasm]

Tech VTuber of the year

[civic fractal]

Cloud gaming

[hasty drift]

cheapest cloud vm with no gpu

[rotund rampart]

Aw

[signal monolith]

probably has also like 10 seconds of input lag xd

[tacit wasp]

Oh he missed the door at the top

[hasty drift]

he is glueless

[rotund rampart]

Its pretty hard to think at 5ps

[winged jay]

Do people that start streaming get a gaming debuff

[marsh swan]

true

[waxen wasp]

vedals brain is tied to the framerate

[winged jay]

That decreases their skills and brain by 200%

[signal monolith]

5 fps 1s input lag pc master race

[tacit wasp]

He noticed the door

[earnest wind]

Vedal: Can program, can sing, can draw, Cant game

[rotund rampart]

Did he play timeless artifact already?

[tacit wasp]

Nope

[quick badger]

he 's going up the top 10

[signal monolith]

Tbf I also wouldn't be very skilled at 5 fps and probably horrible input lag

[rotund rampart]

Ah ok

[earnest wind]

ok yeah fair

[native chasm]

Oh no he fucked up

[tacit wasp]

I think I'm gonna go make my food, that may distract me from this madness
Don't mind the fact I'm eating at 2am

[signal monolith]

filesystem lol

this vm is just cooked

[tardy geyser]

twitch chat figured out the notes to the game

[hasty drift]

vod watchers, skip after breakfast

EDM D# D# D D C C D D EDM EDM D# D# D D C C D D EDM EDM D# D# D D C C D D EDM EDM D# D# D D C C D D EDM

[marsh swan]

oh wait same actually im starving

[winged jay]

Did he delete the upper clone

WHY DID HE DO IT

[signal monolith]

genius ad, twitch chat will get so frustrated they'll play it themselves

[tacit wasp]

I just slowly moved a body up the stair lmao

[native chasm]

Tutel brain

[hasty drift]

HOW IS HE THINKING LIKE THAT

[native chasm]

WDYM TAKE ONE WITH YOU

[tacit wasp]

Don't take this out of context

[winged jay]

Streamer Curse: once you become a streamer, when you play games your skills and brain decreases by 200%

You love to see it

[hazy totem]

guys, next game jam can we not make puzzle games please

[native chasm]

He figured it out

[cunning inlet]

I love the chat

most entartaining part

[native chasm]

This way~
Today~

[tacit wasp]

I'm scared even my point and click game will be too hard for him

[civic fractal]

Same here

[signal monolith]

probably would fail mine at the main menu

[native chasm]

I'm scared even my game with invincibility option would be

[winter aurora]

/j

[hazy totem]

more puzzles

[charred hamlet]

He's gonna fail putting food on the pizza somehow, isn't he

[native chasm]

What is he even trying to do 😭

[past meadow]

Why is he trying to trickshot it instead of finding a proper solution?

[civic fractal]

Vod watchers skip to tomorrow

[earnest wind]

D D C# C# B B C# C#

[winged jay]

what is he doing

WHAT IS HE DOING

[native chasm]

Vod watchers skip to next stream

[tacit wasp]

Getting rid of the bodies

[past meadow]

Twitch chat transcribed it as D# D# D D C C D D

[quick badger]

he's trying to block the lazer as he goes down next to the body

[waxen wasp]

im sorry to the dev but im sick of this already

[past meadow]

[native chasm]

HOLY that body amount

[hot thorn]

so uhh, you can softlock Evil's Malice near the start by just fucking leaving after neuro pops out of the screen

feels like the canon ending tbh

[tacit wasp]

Tbh, I also got dumb here, I had such a huge pile of bodies I couldn't see the ground lmao

[waxen wasp]

i misread that, ignore the erm

[native chasm]

Only 77?

[winged jay]

77 hell yeah

[tacit wasp]

I think I killed around 48?

[past meadow]

Nah, as Vedal showed, canon ending is Evil defeating them both

[native chasm]

I don't remember mine tbh

[hasty drift]

chat cheering for evil was funny

[charred hamlet]

Curious if anything happens when you restore the files from the recycle bin...

[tacit wasp]

Wait did he immediately guess the password?

[signal monolith]

this is so fucking funny lol

[tacit wasp]

Ah no, it's now lmao

[winged jay]

sayitback

[waxen wasp]

i doubt ved is gonna play ours, hes been playing for a while already

[nimble dew]

Does like play count, number of ratings and comments influence the ratings?

[tacit wasp]

Surely he'll play more games tomorrow

[quick badger]

only the amount of rating you got, if you get less than median your score gets reduced

[native chasm]

There is debuff if you have lower than median I think

[nimble dew]

What was the median?

[quick badger]

otherwise it's only the votes that matter

[past meadow]

HOW DID HE DO THA

[quick badger]

17? I think?

[native chasm]

Average rating count of top 50%

[tacit wasp]

Did he go off-screen?

[hasty drift]

cinema

[winged jay]

WE'RE FREEEEEE

WE ARE FREEEEEEEE

[civic fractal]

FREEDOM

[nimble dew]

Oh it's at the top:

The average number of ratings per game was 17.7 and the median was 14.
I got 20 ratings so no debuff?

[native chasm]

Now I wanna speedrun that one

[signal monolith]

yeah

no debuff

[quick badger]

yeah, I believe so

[cunning inlet]

He certainly got a speedrun world record... for the slowest time on the leaderboard

[native chasm]

Yea

[warped forge]

Easy to see if you got the debuff, see if the score and raw score are different.

[native chasm]

At least he finished it lol

[charred hamlet]

oh boy..

[winter aurora]

WR on the cloud gaming category

[winged jay]

do not look

[nimble dew]

Oh. It's the same for mine.

[native chasm]

Oh keepsakes

[civic fractal]

[signal monolith]

You always the WR if you don't have any competition

[civic fractal]

We need to add that

[tacit wasp]

I thought he muted Neuro too

[hasty drift]

cant wait for him to play alex game in 1fps

[nimble dew]

Everyone kinda happy with their ratings? Mine are a bit lower than expected but not too bad I guess.

[charred hamlet]

For context, he blasted music over our game last year

[winged jay]

HAHAHAH

[hasty drift]

my rating is lower than in game jam 1 but there are also double as many games and many many super good ones

[blissful horizon]

he would never

[civic fractal]

A classic one year later

[tacit wasp]

I wasn't expecting much since it was my first jam and the game feels very different from the majority of popular games of the jam so I'm happy with what I got
The real challenge will be next jam

[waxen wasp]

classic

[void parcel]

nope, mine should be lower rated

[blissful horizon]

im sure yours wasent as bad as you think

[tacit wasp]

Oh yeah this puzzle is a bit annoying, I don't know those fancy color names

[unreal plinth]

Would've loved higher rating, but it's fully understandable with the level of quality in this jam. Am happy so many people played it, and have been improving it to try and come back for the Neuro SDK round

[past meadow]

I didn't expect Evil in Time to sweep #2 from us, but The Timeless Artifact is really fitting for the theme and fun to play

[civic fractal]

[void parcel]

no it quite literally only had the tutorial level which couldnt even be beaten

[civic fractal]

What is this color

[waxen wasp]

red

im colourblind tho

[winged jay]

you guys all deserve the win for making the games in 3 days

[tardy geyser]

i think mine shouldn't have its ranks tbh! so many more games deserves my spot

[hasty drift]

wdym u deserve a higher rating

[past meadow]

Wait, you made a game?
What is it?

[tardy geyser]

what game

[unreal plinth]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213367

[hasty drift]

touhou time

[nimble dew]

This was my first "bigger" Unity project and I learned most of it on the go... Might be similar to many others though.

[past meadow]

Need to try it tomorrow

[hasty drift]

was my first unity game, last year was in godot

[old adder]

why is evil's skirt so short

[civic fractal]

Pizza!

[tardy geyser]

pizza

[marsh swan]

I was hoping to get to around 60th place on last days but im happy with 73 rd :D especially for my first game jam and a solo project and a 3d one xD

[charred hamlet]

Neuro SDK gonna be fun for this part

[hasty drift]

thinking about it, if he runs all games through a VM, neuro sdk wont work

[nimble dew]

If I would have had a better gameplay idea, more experience with Unity and more like previous code to reuse it could have been so much better as a game. I had given up halfway through for like 12 hours but then kinda returned to at least polish graphics and menus and such. Ignoring my kinda hopeless gameplay.

[winter aurora]

a websocket (proxy ?) running on the vm that connect to a remote websocket that connect to neuro can do the work

[civic fractal]

Supposedly we are supposed to add an address to send a websocket to and surely he'll handle it

[hasty drift]

could, but would vedal do that?

[signal monolith]

I was aiming high at top 10, but I got 18th place. I'm a bit dissapointed but I think it's still pretty good for a 1st jam. I should've incorporated the theme more, it's by far my worst score.

[tacit wasp]

We what

[nimble dew]

I lost a ton of overall places because my theme ratings were super low. I guess I should have put some dialog and story in instead of totally ignoring that. Hm.

[waxen wasp]

localhost adress

[winter aurora]

maybe not vedal, but Alex can (/j)

[hasty drift]

Lule alex already played all games with neuro

[marsh swan]

OMG same xD my theme and creativity score tanked my score

[hasty drift]

yea next time i rly need to think of a more innovative game.. creativity score is sooo low compared to the other stats. but i deserved having a lower rating there ig

[marsh swan]

but because i dont have a lot of experience with 3d i was stuck on animation controller for like full day 😭 and didnt have as much time for the rest of the game

[nimble dew]

My Creativity score is actually surprisingly decent with #78. Not sure why that scored so well. Maybe for having a somewhat unique gameplay idea even though it was super not fleshed out.

[blissful horizon]

18th out of 277 is still amazing~

[nimble dew]

I was stuck for hours trying to get a scrollable text box to work 😅

[signal monolith]

which game is yours?

[tardy geyser]

genuinely a <top 20 is incredibly good

[marsh swan]

I see xD rip

[tacit wasp]

Wait, 4 left in total or for today?

[signal monolith]

Not good enough for vedal to play it 😦

[old adder]

top 100 is good

[hasty drift]

surely he will play the top25 games, right ? (i am 24th)

[placid salmon]

Top 277 is amazing

[old adder]

surely he will play random games

[nimble dew]

🙄 https://acurna.itch.io/evelin-from-the-past
My highest score is for graphics which is not that surprising. I spent 12 hours on particle effects alone and it's one of the few 3D games.

[signal monolith]

Oh, I remember playing this one, It has cool particles

[royal jewel]

I really do hope he does play other games than just the top 10

[hasty drift]

i played it too

[winter aurora]

OUR TIME

[hasty drift]

spooky art time

[signal monolith]

We should increase the length of the subathon until vedal is forced to play every game

[light remnant]

https://eeeri.itch.io/the-timeless-artifact
hey I made a post-game update, a bit too late but better late then never

[placid salmon]

That minikomew was junji ito levels of unnerving

[tacit wasp]

TroubleShotting let's gooo

[cunning inlet]

y'know what, maybe I'm thinking about this all wrong. Next year I should create a game that forces you to go through a very special tutorial that is specifically designed so that Vedal is physically incapable of beating it, and then make a banger game behind the tutorial so it gets into top 10, and then I can watch the whole chat laugh at Vedal for 2 hours straight

[unreal plinth]

Just checked out your game and it functions, for a solo project where you threw yourself up against a big challenge for the first time, that's pretty good.
There's not much in terms of gameplay though, which you do mention in your description, and that really hurts player impression when there are so many other games to go through.
I assume you used a lot of asset packs and plugins for most/all of the models and visual effects, right? You could probably do the same for the UI, so that you can focus more time into gameplay, since I see in the description that you spent a while building the UI, there are some real good plugins you can find online for making the menu systems easy.

[tacit wasp]

Ah yes, skipped the prologue, this will go fine

[past meadow]

[placid salmon]

Trolling Vedal is always the right mentality

[winged jay]

are you going to watch every gamejam game Vedal played so you can find out his weaknesses?

[tardy geyser]

wait he skipped the tutorial

[winged jay]

perfect

[signal monolith]

my game is probably too difficult for him tbh

[winged jay]

we're going to have fun watching 1 hour of journalist gaming

[winged jay]

what's your game btw?

[hasty drift]

my oshi cant cli

[signal monolith]

Crazy Robot Body

[cunning inlet]

I'm already conjuring up ideas

[tardy geyser]

time to think of creative pins

[cunning inlet]

I've seen both game jams, and I've seen him play every game, this is good data

[winter aurora]

man the absences of tab completion on this version is... I'm sorry

[signal monolith]

this one https://jaceideu.itch.io/crazy-robot-body-blast-from-the-past

[winged jay]

oh yeah that one

[tacit wasp]

Vedal really needs a "This is the tutorial, don't skip it" sign

[winged jay]

the gameplay reminds me of something

[hasty drift]

i mean there basically was

[signal monolith]

every game should have "vedal" difficulty

[nimble dew]

Yeah there was a lot of external stuff used which I'm not a huge fan of but I'm mostly a programmer so I didn't have much of a choice. Some modified. The particle effects are based on the Unity particle demo but changed and improved a bunch. Here is the Credits.txt which would be in the download:

[native chasm]

Surely he'll play top 125 (I'm 125th)

[civic fractal]

"Vedal is acting like an NPC, you can free him by purchasing the neuro lavalamp"

[tardy geyser]

[placid salmon]

He is probably not that good at high speed action games

[winged jay]

platformers

[sage canyon]

I may have missed it but did he mention what games he will be playing? Whether he's just playing on playing top 10 or something

[cunning inlet]

Step 1: Include a "skip tutorial" part for the tutorial that tells you how to go through the tutorial, and then include one piece of vital information about how to complete the tutorial in the tutorial tutorial that only Vedal would not have the basic gamer sense to think about

[unreal plinth]

Ooo, so you actually modified the particles yourself? You did a pretty good job then!
I hate the Unity particle system, can never manage to make anything do what I want (Also haven't spent enough time to actually learn it though...)

[winter aurora]

ono neuro gona throw

o7 anny

[tacit wasp]

Bad ending speedrun

[nimble dew]

I never worked with the particle system before but it was rather easy to just modify all the GUI things. I still had to figure out what everything does. I also added light effects and used deferred rendering which makes a ton of lights very cheap.

[signal monolith]

top 10 for now

from 10 to 1

[civic fractal]

I thought we were going down from 1 to 10

[winter aurora]

neverminded

[sage canyon]

Fair enough there's a lot of games hopefully next year I'll get him to play

[signal monolith]

idk, maybe I'm wrong, sorry

[hasty drift]

CLASSIC

[blissful horizon]

oop

[tardy geyser]

dialogue node

[tacit wasp]

:EDM:

[unreal plinth]

Cool, keep on learning that graphics side of Unity and next time you could make something real good looking, maybe even be pretty useful to some team lacking in the visuals department

[nimble dew]

Since this was my first Unity game I had to mostly learn everything from scratch with barely an idea how Unity works.
Now I'm participating in another game jam and again I'm like mostly learning basic things.
Those are kinda all learning projects for now.
Btw. I found a working scrolling text box in a Unity example after the Neuro jam 😅 Now I could put longer texts like credits into the game itself. That was a weird limit to have before and Unity drove me nuts with that.

[unreal plinth]

Unity's got a lot of tiny annoyances, gotta learn the workarounds and how to manipulate the engine

[hasty drift]

👍

[tacit wasp]

Vedal just speedran the game

[unreal plinth]

Always good to find some nice well polished package/plugin/asset pack that makes alll sorts of things easier than Unity would ever (Unless you're the type that wants to make everything themselves........ me... )

[royal jewel]

[nimble dew]

I want to have like purposes in game jams since you don't exactly make decent money with them typically. The neuro game jam was kinda my "general Unity and particle system learning project".

[signal monolith]

I think that's true for every engine, godot has lots of weird quirks too

[winter aurora]

I mean, file system exploration is mostly for non neuro fans that do not have clue/memory about neuro
I guess vedal is a good enought neuro fan

[tacit wasp]

Fair enough

[unreal plinth]

Just gotta build your own engine, always the best choice

[tacit wasp]

He remembers his neglected daughter's special moments

[marsh swan]

Evil in time

[signal monolith]

I tried once, it run at 2 fps if you didn't have ssd and filled your ram completely in couple of minutes

[tacit wasp]

Oh god Evil in Time, he's never gonna get an ending

[blissful horizon]

mini saw the art of her corrupted version from the game

[winged jay]

we're going to be here for 10 hours with this one? 🔥

[signal monolith]

it's pretty hard to get some endings tbf

[royal jewel]

Interesting, another variant of LIFE
I kinda expected a lot of games would just use variants of LIFE

[hasty drift]

guilty

[tardy geyser]

not complaining, so far most of the LIFE covers are fire

[signal monolith]

evil in time is my favorite game I've played this jam

[unreal plinth]

I spent a couple months once building one in pure C++ with just the WinAPI (No OpenGL or anything), ran in the Windows command line, rendered 3D, had reflections, and .obj importing........ and then I dropped it and never did anything with it cause command line isn't the best place for a game engine, and textures and sound sounded like they'd suck to program from scratch

[royal jewel]

True, they have been pretty good
We did custom music for our game though (and kinda went all in on the audio)

[unreal plinth]

Ran at like 20-30 fps though, so much optimization, sooo much I'll never recover from the division, square root, and pointer trauma....

[marsh swan]

This game gives me huge Steins Gate vibes and I love steins gate

[signal monolith]

soundtrack of this game slaps so much, not every song is original but they fit perfectly

[potent stirrup]

Same, with Troubleshooting being very close

[tacit wasp]

I love how literally everyone survived Neuro's wrath but Vedal

[potent stirrup]

Also love steins;gate so this is ver cool

[hasty drift]

I like how so many games have Evil as protagonist instead of neuro

[signal monolith]

Evil in time is so good, all this weird, random things neuro said are made into such a good story and lore

it's amazing

I love all those references

It's the only game in the jam where I liked the story so much

[winter aurora]

btw, the vedal effect (similar thing for brother play)

[past meadow]

But Abandoned Pub did crazy numbers in general

[tardy geyser]

holy

[hasty drift]

90 collections wild

[tardy geyser]

hopefully you guys are enjoying the boosted numbers

more people should play your games!

[past meadow]

[winter aurora]

true, more ppl should play neuroshock /j

[past meadow]

Well, at least platformer parts were fun

[civic fractal]

I feel like talking to vedal is an instant kill

Well maybe both in this case

[past meadow]

It's kind of is

[civic fractal]

Neuro is not supposed to be online, so that really would be a massive red light.

[winter aurora]

on the game lore side I think neuro/evil program still run even if not displayed. small change to real life but for game story reason (and tbh idk I'm not one of the writer of this game)

[civic fractal]

I'd assume so, otherwise this would be true

[winter aurora]

yes

[civic fractal]

Classic

[signal monolith]

vedal's has the unqiue ability to make every game he touches look like shit

powerful passive

[winged jay]

Streamer Debuff

you lose braincells and your gaming skills the moment you start streaming

[signal monolith]

he gave both of his braincells to his daughters, one each

[tardy geyser]

it's one split among the two actually

[winged jay]

They literally share a braincell

[tacit wasp]

||Evil is a bit smart, she would only show herself when Vedal tries to start one of the twin. But that's still very sus to Vedal||

[civic fractal]

Not reading as I haven't played it myself.

[tacit wasp]

Fair 👍

[civic fractal]

I forget if this was web or not, was just going to play it on my phone and pray it works
I'd have to set up wine

[signal monolith]

before vedal beats the game you'll be probably able to get every ending

[civic fractal]

I am eating atm tho

[signal monolith]

kinda a mistake

ngl

[fresh jewel]

||It’s required for one of the endings to make him sus.||

[tacit wasp]

Worst stream to do it

[civic fractal]

I'm muting stream. I'll set up wine

[tacit wasp]

Good luck with the game

[civic fractal]

not like my watch count even exists due to third part

[fresh jewel]

It took me several hours to get all the endings but I might just be a little slow.

[signal monolith]

||I got anny ending and sus ending for now||

[fresh jewel]

If you want me to throw hints your way I got you.

[tardy geyser]

@light remnant oh you're online, here's a ping xdx

[civic fractal]

Wine please function

[signal monolith]

you can, it would be useful and I couldnt decode guy in the comments that was speaking in wingdings lol

[past meadow]

||I got Anny ending in 10 minutes, idk why it takes everyone ages to get a proper ending ||

[light remnant]

I was in bed with the stream open in the monitor

[civic fractal]

Thank you wine!

[signal monolith]

||I also got anny ending pretty quickly, but it's hard to find other, It took me a lot of time to find sus ending||

[civic fractal]

Cya later chat

[tacit wasp]

Wait, someone in chat mentioned the DS and it's actually pretty cool to think about
The Timeless Artifact would work great on the 3DS, one screen per period and the circular pad controls the future while the D-pad controls the past

[tardy geyser]

imagine multiplayer timeless artifact

[naive walrus]

I think there a game similar like this with multiplayer dont remember the name seen some clips of it

[royal jewel]

That's actually a very cool idea

[signal monolith]

I think I know what game you're talking about but I don't know its name either

[fresh jewel]

I'll try to be vague for now.
||One ending you're missing requires you to cause Neuro to make naturally morally good choices.
The other ending requires conquest bar to be at 40%||

[past meadow]

There is a portal mod with the similar concept

Portal Reloaded

[light remnant]

that was the main inspiration for the game

[royal jewel]

Would be cool if Vedal also played at least the best games of all the different individual categories

[light remnant]

wait thats actually sick

[torpid bridge]

Oooof

[signal monolith]

I found the game, it's bokura, right?

[naive walrus]

Yea that one

[torpid bridge]

Congrats to @light remnant for coming in first!

[light remnant]

thank you!!

[tacit wasp]

I would immediately try to make a prototype if I knew how to make a Homebrew app on the 3DS
I barely know how to print "hello world!" in there

[light remnant]

I wish I had a 3ds to do it because I would 100% try to do it

but even in a emulator would be cool

[royal jewel]

Looks like a very cool little game

[naive walrus]

I have moded 3ds so if you gonna do it i could test it on the hardware

[royal jewel]

Is the game using some existing engine or is it using some custom system?

[light remnant]

is made on godot

[royal jewel]

Interesting

I wonder if that has 3DS build tools

[tardy geyser]

won't be surprised if such a build target exists

[tacit wasp]

Doubt it tbh

[tardy geyser]

https://gbatemp.net/threads/wip-updated-godot-engine-for-3ds-homebrew.615480/ (it seems to exist)

[light remnant]

I remember that I found a game maker engine to psp build tools that I used once

[light remnant]

YOOO

i'm gonna try then maybe

[tacit wasp]

Oh wow there's more discussion on the topic than I expected

I thought Godot was still too young for a lot of Homebrew stuff to exist but apparently, it does

[signal monolith]

godot's community is really dedicated to making the engine better

[tacit wasp]

I see, that's pretty neat

[royal jewel]

I'm pretty sure Vedal did that one puzzle wrong by using a collision issue

[light remnant]

yep

[civic fractal]

Frick, I tabbed out and the game hung. Speedruning time.

[past meadow]

This one is even worse

[light remnant]

this one was the intended solution lol

[signal monolith]

linux moment(windows also sucks, but most people make things with windows in mind)

[past meadow]

Was it?

[light remnant]

yep you are supposed to push the future box with the old box

[civic fractal]

Yep, I don't get to speak about it as I'm using wine

It works somewhat at best

[signal monolith]

I'm using windows 10 rn

[past meadow]

Then I guess I found another solution, on top of the one Alex found today. If the inactive block is being activated inside the player, which way is he pushed?

[signal monolith]

And I don't plan on updating

anytime soon

[civic fractal]

I do have an 11vm but I'm hoping to not boot that if I don't have to

[light remnant]

yes I was supprised when he did it but I think is a cool solution too

[royal jewel]

Same with me, I consider Windows 11 a fairly bad OS

[signal monolith]

it has more spyware than win 10, which is impressive

[light remnant]

i'm not sure probably the shortest way out

[tacit wasp]

Same
I don't really dislike Windows 11 itself but I'm not trusting a Microsoft AI that takes screenshot of my desktop

[charred hamlet]

Holy vedal effect

[royal jewel]

Well, hopefully Vedal plays more game jam games at some point
I do think playing some of the top games in individual categories Would also be a good idea

[light remnant]

or maybe just be clipped in the wall

[tacit wasp]

Hopefully he'll play the Top 30 of each category
Totally not because my game is 28th in the Theme category or anything

[cunning inlet]

I'm sure everyone in top 10-20 are witnessing it

[royal jewel]

I really hope at least our game (1st in audio) gets played, I want to kinda see Vedal's reaction to the power of Neuro RVC

[signal monolith]

I think It would be cool if he played top 10 in every category for example excluding duplicates

[royal jewel]

Yeah, would be cool if someone could get that idea to him somehow

[signal monolith]

it's bedtime already? Vedal was on stream for like 4 hours today lol

[cunning inlet]

Glad to see most are downloading v1.1 over v1.0 tho, even if they're practically almost the same

[royal jewel]

Vedal's sleep schedule desyncing from subathon be like

[winged jay]

v2.0 when

[royal jewel]

Would get our game and many other cool ones played on stream

[hot thorn]

vedal sings so well!

[civic fractal]

Does someone know the bind to go back on a desision in Evil in time?

[tacit wasp]

The mouse wheel

[civic fractal]

Thanks!

[winged jay]

What to do if your mouse wheel is broken? Asking for a friend

[tacit wasp]

I feel like the only hope I have to get Vedal to play my game is to get the Neuro SDK is working

[royal jewel]

I really do hope our game gets played for both Vedal and chat's reaction to Neuro RVC
It could be very silly

[void parcel]

cry

[signal monolith]

Oh, can someone test the new version of crb?

[void parcel]

🫡

[tacit wasp]

Abuse the quick save system

[signal monolith]

should be on itch

[cunning inlet]

nicely done!

[signal monolith]

It should save your settings now, I've added level select which should be unlocked after beating the game once and there are some new challenges - you can see their icons on the pause screen, hover with mouse to see the requirements

[royal jewel]

I guess we'll just have to see what happens and hope something like playing top games of other individual categories happens

[hot thorn]

thanks for the fun time, was not expecting duck tales moon theme stepmania today but so it goes

[royal jewel]

By the way, anyone want a wav version of Binary solace because the one in the game and on YT is compressed?

[cunning inlet]

yeah I had a real brain wracking moment, trying to figure out what song would go the best. All roads led to that song, but I wanted to use a remix, so I went through like 20 of them, picked the best one, and sliced it smaller xdd

[void parcel]

it saved all settings except speedrun mode, fps counter, and mute yapping

[royal jewel]

(Binary solace is the name for our song we made for the game)

[hot thorn]

i think a lot of chat wasn't familiar but know that some appreciated it

[cunning inlet]

I wanted a song that's simple and a banger, not silly but cool and epic or emotional. I personally think I nailed it

[winged jay]

Planning on adding more songs?

[signal monolith]

it should be like that

good

[cunning inlet]

not to the current game, that would make no sense

although you can freely replay it now in v1.1

[tacit wasp]

[cunning inlet]

I actually wanted to make something more battle-oriented, something more silimar to the final boss

although after watching Vedal's gameplay, I'm not totally sure anymore xdx

[royal jewel]

For some reason that made me think of how silly it would be to have a crossover with some game featuring Binary solace, first thing that came to my mind
I guess I'm obsessed with the song

[hot thorn]

running through the VM did not do him any favors

[cunning inlet]

I think it would be fun, but we'd all mostly just watch Vedal suffer on stream

[royal jewel]

Or too focused on the song, something like that

It is our highlight feature after all

[cunning inlet]

yeah, I wonder how bad the DDR section was to play with the delay

100ms doesn't seem too bad, but it can certainly effect things

[void parcel]

what did you change with the velocity? 🤔 im able to get to the second level in sub 3.3 seconds now, when before it was a challenge to even get below 3.5

[civic fractal]

100ms is pretty bad if your not used to it

[hot thorn]

you made the window pretty generous, though holds you really have to hold through the end of them, it took me a while to figure out why i was getting random misses lol

[royal jewel]

Must have been pretty bad
I've tried playing some games trough remote desktop and it's a pain with even non-rhythm games

[winged jay]

Surely he can't screw up a turn based rpg made in RPG Maker MV

[tacit wasp]

[cunning inlet]

as someone that's played bulky games on tiny laptops, no amount of lag can prevent me xdd

at least the lag during my game was nothing compared to "that one game"

[hot thorn]

it has literally been 20 years since i've played stepmania in a arrow key layout though lol

[winged jay]

As someone that has 1 fan (unless the 2nd one broke) I fear to open any modern game

[signal monolith]

Some person complained that fades count, so speedrun counter doesn't tick when fading in and out animation plays

[void parcel]

ah

[cunning inlet]

I'm surprised he actually played through that entire puzzle game that was playing at 10fps

[signal monolith]

so you can get a bit shorter times now

it was like 1 second for the whole run

[cunning inlet]

I'm also surprised he never figured out the EMP/Gamma attack. if he attacked more aggressively and actually switched to Neuro whenever there was no cooldown, he could have brute forced it

[void parcel]

it might actually be possible to get sub 30 seconds for humans now 🤔

[hot thorn]

your attention really gets fried when you're streaming

[royal jewel]

Fans in your PC? I have like 6 on the case and 2 on the CPU

[cunning inlet]

I suppose so

something I've noticed is that I literally don't understand what I'm saying when I read text out loud

[signal monolith]

If nobody will find any new bugs, this will probably the final version of the game

[winged jay]

Laptop

[cunning inlet]

I could voice act a whole paragraph and then have 0 ability to recite anything I just said from memory because all my energy went to voice acting and none to understanding what I just said

[royal jewel]

Oh, of course
Laptops are known for nonexistent cooling

[cunning inlet]

I know some people have the exact opposite as well tho

[royal jewel]

I have a fairly weak laptop and it easily goes to 80+ degrees with peaks of 100

And then I have my main PC

[winged jay]

Yellow hurts Neuro or does it hurt Vedal

[royal jewel]

That never exceeds 80 degrees under full load on CPU + GPU

[winged jay]

I forgoe

[royal jewel]

(I usually use that laptop for remote desktop purposes)

[civic fractal]

I 100% get you there, I can't think of something to say and use another voice at the same time.

[winged jay]

Blue hurts Neuro, while in the bank she can walk throught it
And if there was yellow light it could also help with players remembering "oh yellow light = turtle boy is safe"

[cunning inlet]

The colors codes were tied to their real life counterparts, "Gamma rays" being depicted as yellow, and "EMP blast" being depicted as blue. For extra clarification I put a special popup at the top of the screen tho, I even included the face and put "X" over it to showcase who doesn't like it

I had the z-index off tho, so it could hide behind Evil

[winged jay]

Yeah I saw the symbols while watching the video of someone playing the game

[cunning inlet]

can definitely see it being hard to notice tho, especially when you're trying to properly commentate/entertain chat, read chat, listen and understand what Neuro's saying, and probably a few other things on the side screens, while also malding over VM ping

[civic fractal]

I was trying to figure out what those meant

[winged jay]

But I think most players wouldn't see that because they are more focused on the attack than what is happening on other parts of screen

[civic fractal]

I think the only solution was to dig it into the player's mind more

[winged jay]

next time make a sound and a special effect on the target of the attack

[cunning inlet]

that already existed in v1.0 yes

although the volume was a bit low I suppose

[hot thorn]

yeah, i didn't notice the alert until well after noticing the gimmick itself just based on the damage being taken

[cunning inlet]

the visual effect could have helped a lot, never thought about that one

also wouldn't have had time to implement it anyway, I was running out of time real hard at the end there

I was wondering about adding another post-credits scene but I didn't even have time for that xd

[hot thorn]

it's not all that important, sometimes you just have to learn the hard way

[cunning inlet]

ended up not deciding to add one in v1.1 either

[winged jay]

Yeah like those red crosshairs

[cunning inlet]

I was thinking more towards a visual effect when you get hit, cuz the ray targets the active player specifically

if you split and switched characters, the "who is it targeting" part becomes very obvious immediately

[winged jay]

I mean only 1 person takes the dmg but some players could not notice that and connect the dots

[cunning inlet]

could maybe help either way I guess

[winged jay]

I don't think splitting comes to mind during a boss fight until you get hit by the ray beams once or twice

[hot thorn]

it's definitely hard to notice if the characters are together

[muted moat]

It woulda been cool if the shadows were tinted, with Vedals being tinted blue cuz he doesnt take dmg from blue, and neuros being tinted yellow for the same reason

[cunning inlet]

I also don't mind the "learn and try again" method, since the boss isn't overly long, and you get immediately thrown back after dying anyway

[hot thorn]

though in my mind it's fine to not handhold too much, but i'm used to old games that hate the player and don't want them to ever beat them

[cunning inlet]

could become a bigger factor if you had to redo more than just the boss tho

[hot thorn]

as long as it's easy to retry i think it's fine to kick a player's ass till they figure it out

[cunning inlet]

yeah I was a natural born gamer lmao

[muted moat]

Fair

[cunning inlet]

I played rage games at a young age and I learned to game the hard way

[winged jay]

I still think if there were more cameras that teach you that blue is safe for Neuro and yellow for Vedal the boss fight might've been easier for anyone that doesn't forget things very fast

[cunning inlet]

I Wanna Be The Guy, The World's Hardest Game, and so on and so forth

[hot thorn]

iwbtg was a fun time, game maker bugs not withstanding lol

[muted moat]

Im just generally not into those games, i suck at anything intense usually, and just stick to turn based stuff usually, so im really bad at anything with like fps, or rhythm games, or even like pvp/pve in minecraft

Lol

[cunning inlet]

it's funny cuz I used to think "The World's Hardest Game" was super hard at some point, requiring 1000+ deaths, but now I can beat it in like 15mins

same with IWBTG, I can speedrun that shit in less than an hour

[queen scroll]

adjusted title: "The World's Quite Difficult Game"

[hot thorn]

turn-based still has a lot of strengths, i generally prefer it in RPGs since it gives you so much more control

[cunning inlet]

I might try making a semi-roguelike game just for teh lulz, mostly so I can expand my own vision a bit and try out more ambitious things

...and then reuse like half of the assets from that game in next game jam xdx

[hot thorn]

the game can be made to require strategy and party synergy without having to worry about things like babysitting your dumb as rocks CPU companions

i planned to spend a lot more time this week slowly porting a game into godot but turns out the streams are really engaging...

[cunning inlet]

I'm still a little bit surprised that my game got around the same rating rank in theme as it did in visuals and creativity

the theme I totally understand, I think that was the weakest link myself as well, I thought it'd be even lower tbh

I somehow still ended up getting #10 despite the awful scores in creativity and visuals tho, which I'm pleasantly surprised by

[hot thorn]

awful only relative to the slightly higher scores of other things, lol

[royal jewel]

I would have been surprised if our game wasn't 1st in audio
33rd overall is not bad either

[cunning inlet]

I say "awful" even tho it's not that bad in the grand scheme, I have no idea what other word I'd use tho lmao

well anyway, imma head off now

[void parcel]

ok so my final verdict @signal monolith

in the end screen some of the challenges overlap (i imagine pipe% or real pipe% would also overlap) not a huge deal but figured id point it out anyway

you can now start the tutorial level with speedrun mode enabled using the level selector, which i know was originally the reason real pipe% and pipe% were separated so im thinking this is unintended?

other than that i didnt notice anything, but i will say a nice quality of life feature would be if i press 'R' to restart the run, it would be nice if only the level i selected gets restarted. and specifically the level i selected, not the one im on, because that would allow me to, as an example, start on the second to last room and practice the transition into the boss without needing to exit to the level selector each time

[sage canyon]

congrats

[signal monolith]

it makes sense that real pipe% and pipe% as still seperate because "normal" run still skips the tutorial,
but it's now less akward to attempt it thx to the level select,
real pipe% and pipe% wont overlapp each other, they are mutually exclusive
I think restart run key is not important enough to make a new version, so It will stay that way unless someone founds some big bug
In conclusion, thank you for testing, I think it's good for now, I'm not planning on making any more updates

[void parcel]

what i meant by pipe% and real pipe% overlapping, is that they might overlap with the "Used Level Select" text, rather than with eachother

and normal vs level selected runs makes sense, i didnt think about that

thanks for making an awesome game btw 👍 would spend many hours again

[civic fractal]

Classic wine bug, Gonna have to restart as the flashbang from the "Filtered" scene is persisting.

At least I'm 90% sure it is a bug

[signal monolith]

it's kinda by design, I want it to be very clear that the challenge was completed while using level select

[waxen wasp]

Permanent filtered jumpscare? Fuuuck

[signal monolith]

btw "Used Level Select" tag only applies if your start from levels OTHER than the tutorial, or city level

[main sluice]

Just saw that the results are up, A Bandoned Rchive got 8th place 🙂 It was fun doing the music for it

[civic fractal]

Not yours!!!!!!!!!!!

I was playing another game

[atomic stream]

oh the results are finally out?

i missed the results being calculated and vedal playing the games 😭

[halcyon flame]

how does the rating work?

like if a game is rated only once and its 5/5

what happens then

[atomic stream]

games with few ratings get a score deduction

damn i wasnt fast enough

[halcyon flame]

raw score is the one without reduction?

whats the difference between raw and not raw

[south hazel]

@cunning inlet grats on ur game being played by vedal and semi (maybe) voiced by camila

[civic fractal]

After what feels like forever I finally got the ending I was looking for. 3/5 endings is good enough.

[misty tree]

lol while rewatching vedal play my game, one chatter caught on to a very silly detail i technically put in on purpose

[viscid fable]

[misty tree]

anny spilled ketchup while making spaghetti xD

ACK I JUST REALIZED THE LINE SAID MINIWAN AND NOT MINAWAN

[buoyant flower]

Proofreading is hard 😅

[civic fractal]

mhm I love lag

[buoyant flower]

From what I've seen, that is the difference. With and without the rating reduction applied.

[civic fractal]

Then you spawn a bunch of windows all over the place

The strange benefit of that toolkit is that it is stupidly easy to create child windows.

My source is that I did it myself in the past.
(2000ish windows is what my system was able to handle)

[hasty drift]

Goated community

[waxen wasp]

Oh, scared me for a moment there

[halcyon flame]

ic tnx

[waxen wasp]

Goodmorning btw

[fringe star]

gmorning

[hasty drift]

morning

[potent stirrup]

[native chasm]

Mornin

[proud smelt]

[fringe star]

i tried reading, studying node.js, copy pasting, trying to understand the neuro api stuff, i still dont understand how to do it

other than node js, do i need anything else?

i need someone to teach me the ways of websocket

[hasty drift]

i got stuff running for myself but i dont rly know much abt node js, i only used it in unity but I think the concept is similar on every program lang or engine

[fringe star]

i dont think there exists a tutorial on how to do websocket in scratch

[torpid bridge]

@sleek reef hey, top 50 ain't that bad

[frail wharf]

is your game written in nodejs?

[fringe star]

its written in scratch

this thing
https://ishinada.itch.io/neuro-wars

[sleek reef]

yea i saw, i honestly expected more, but i did learn a lot from this game jam, so im overall satisfied

[frail wharf]

uhh is there a plugin that lets you run nodejs code? what is the relationship of your code with nodejs

[fringe star]

dunno, someone suggested nodejs

i have 0 experience with websockets, but i want to do this, best option for me is to ask help here

[cunning inlet]

Thanks! Was not prepared for my game being played first out of all of them 😅

[hasty drift]

another vaza hit game. and some lessons learned. for example, have a game journalist difficulty ready for vedal

[frail wharf]

idk if ur able to make any network requests at all, is there some way u can run javascript from ur game

[cunning inlet]

I've had a change of heart, I will instead make an extremely fun game that makes Vedal suffer xdx

[winged jay]

just make a platformer

[hasty drift]

yea i think that is the way tbh. i was shocked that quite few people did game over in my game after release while in testing everyone won first try. so i was like "damn i should have made it easier." but seeing that i got #8 in fun, i assume most people were doing fine and i should not be swayed by a few who lack critical information on how to play tower defense

[frail wharf]

personally i believe text adventure games are the only valid form of game

[cunning inlet]

if the theme fits, I might go for something similar to a flash game called "This is the only level"

It's basically a one singular screen level, but every time you beat it, something changes

and those changes can be extremely stupid and funny

[sleek reef]

im pretty sure there was a scratch api in javascript, so you can try hooking up the neuro sdk from there

[fringe star]

i have something that can send messages to websockets, but because i dont know how to open a websocket server, im not sure how to use this

[fringe star]

i'll download java and see if i can try to find it

[sleek reef]

its definitely not java-related

[fringe star]

i also have something that interact with http

[frail wharf]

oh, ok. ask chatgpt to write you a hello world websockets server in nodejs, run that, and try to connect to it from your game and send a message. also you probably should be on ws:// not wss://

[sleek reef]

the neuro sdk repo include randy, which is a simple websocket server

[fleet goblet]

idk if the SDK is configured for WSS
There is no configuration that needs to be done on the sdk-side for wss. Both ws and wss should work, but vedal uses ws because the server is on localhost

[fringe star]

my laptop is going insane, it wont allow the nodejs installer to download nodejs

I have to go now, thx for the suggestions, tips and advice, if you guys have anymore pls send so I can somehow figure out how to make this thing work

[wanton vigil]

guys how can i move my cursor in fps games

i mean it dissaper ingame

i killed chat

my bad

[cunning inlet]

gonna start going through all the comments during my game just for the lulz. Glad to see people remember me for all the most important reasons xdd

[waxen wasp]

should maybe share here too

stats went up after the results got announced

most likely cuz of the #1 audio

[lament ermine]

Over 1/4th of our plays came from today, maximum neuro effect

(also why do we have less views than we have plays today)

[placid salmon]

I have a game about cat girls

[placid salmon]

People sometimes click on the game and have the tab open but don't play until the next day

[lament ermine]

all 300+ of them?

it says we have 32 views today

390 browser plays

[placid salmon]

I believe so

[lament ermine]

sheesh

[winter aurora]

I think maybe bigger update time ?
or it display view "by luck" and not for ppl searching for the game ?

[lament ermine]

maybe

who knows

[native chasm]

People who viewed before come back and play or smth? Idk

nothing changed for me

[fringe star]

I think I'll add audio to my game jam next time

[native chasm]

wait wasn't your game completely silent, how is score over 1

[fringe star]

I don't know

[unreal plinth]

Just put some Neuro covers as background music and you're set

[native chasm]

iirc "I wish I was" kinda did that

[unreal plinth]

I've got 3 sound effects in the game, and then I also just play Neuro (Evil ver), Virus, and Crazy Robot Body in the background

:p

[frail wharf]

i simply used LIFE and they gave me a 3.25

[fringe star]

Dang

[frail wharf]

deserves a higher art score ngl

claude did a good job.

[royal jewel]

We had a completely custom original song (Binary solace) and got 1st in audio

[frail wharf]

good job

[royal jewel]

It sure is a good song

Anyone want the wav? The version in the game and on YT is quite compressed

[unreal plinth]

You've also got Neuro voice acting,

[royal jewel]

Oh? Neuro RVC or just Azure Ashley?

We used our own Neuro TTS and Evil RVC for our voice acting, as well as Atorin as an additional voice

[frail wharf]

it’s azure ashley. i really should have invested in programmatic orchestration so i could focus more on actual script

[royal jewel]

Interesting

Our voices definitely sound pretty decent, even though we used custom stuff

[native chasm]

I made like 8 short OSTs for my game and got #128 in audio

[frail wharf]

😏

[native chasm]

next time spending 0 time on that and just going with undertale music instead

[royal jewel]

Well, we did have a full on original song, Neuro voice acting with Atorin as an extra voice and an OST that is tied together by motifs from Binary solace

[native chasm]

yea I remember that, u totally deserver 1st place there

[royal jewel]

Majority of our team had at least something to do with audio

[royal jewel]

I expected nothing less
We really cooked

Spoiler warning for our game
Here, might as well just send the wav for Binary solace because why not

[frail wharf]

ok but can it compete with my original song

[royal jewel]

That's just LIFE without the inst?

Not that special

I could do that in [insert roformer runtime on LIFE on a 4070Ti here]

In fact, I have a LIFE vocal extract just sitting around

[frail wharf]

ok but you see while the closing theme is LIFE singing without the inst the introductory theme is LIFE inst without the singing

absolute art i tell you

[royal jewel]

Here

[royal jewel]

Sounds like nothing that special
I got the LIFE inst from the same Roformer extraction

What did you use to extract LIFE by the way?

[frail wharf]

audacity had a plugin for it

[royal jewel]

Huh, what plugin?

[frail wharf]

https://support.audacityteam.org/music/isolating-or-removing-vocals-from-a-song

the plugin itself just seems like a wrapper for some huggingface models

[royal jewel]

Interesting

I assume it's not Roformer, the current best vocal extraction model, the one I used to extract LIFE

I think the inst is kinda leaking in in yours

[frail wharf]

i like it that way

if you play through the game there’s a few seconds of… something at the start which is kinda nice

[royal jewel]

I guess that's kinda up to preference
A clean extraction is better for usage in making stuff like mixes with other instrumentals though, such as this one

(this one was just a quick one because I liked the inst)

Nothing compared to the level of effort I do on my actual covers

Here's my most recent cover where I put in a lot more effort

[royal jewel]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1320475498471620671
This is the inst source I believe

[frail wharf]

i’m pretty sure my laptop was in power saving mode and it ran the extraction on the integrated graphics 😂

[royal jewel]

I think iGPUs can't run AI models, so it must have been on the CPU then

[frail wharf]

it gave me a dropdown to pick cpu or intel iris and i picked intel iris

[royal jewel]

I don't think that can run AI compute, if it really did run on there the CPU might have been better

Well, faster

[frail wharf]

it took like a minute probably would not have mattered

[royal jewel]

The inference device shouldn't effect output quality, just time to inference

Either way, based on that inference time it's definitely not Roformer, Roformer on my 4070Ti takes multiple minutes for a full song

It's very heavy

[cunning inlet]

finished going through all discord messages during my game. People were surprised by how much content it had. Also I think he spent almost 50mins on it total

lmfao

[waxen wasp]

not everyone voted 1 i guess, probably because not having audio is pretty common

[frail wharf]

no audio is better than bad audio

[waxen wasp]

true

[lament ermine]

teaser

[frail wharf]

oh a text based game. honorable

[lament ermine]

well, we have art too

never get tired of seeing this Anny

[azure light]

[lapis meadow]

I love horror anny

[sinful trench]

i love text games, its looks very interesting and good

i love terminal very much

so im using linux btw

[crimson dock]

(I can't post screenshots apparently, but I made Zero Sum, overall #269 (nice))
as a first ever game jam, and an entirely solo project with no game engine, I'll take not last. hope the people who got to try it (and got it working) at least had some fun

[lethal sonnet]

What I've learnt during this game jam:
Make nice cover art. It doesn't matter how good your game is if people don't click on it 😅 (I lost almost 25% of my score due to being below the median)

[crimson dock]

seeing all the wonderful looking and playing games in the list reminds me why I'm a programmer and not a game designer lmao

someday I'll finally get around to learning any kind of art and how to make the computer touch it

[cunning inlet]

I did the math. Vedal hit 119 and missed 89 notes, which means he had a 57.2% accuracy

Technically above average?

[hasty drift]

cloud vm was how many ms delay though

[cunning inlet]

he said 100ms but dunno how accurate/rounded it is

glad to see some people recognize where I may have gotten "Infernoplex by Dimrain47" from

I loved one guys comment: "Of course he managed to sniff out the alcohol bar first"

[wanton vigil]

is game still ongoing?
i love horror game so

[naive walrus]

Yea we currently working on some graphical additions, QoL, exploration, and adding new characters

[tacit wasp]

Can't wait, this game is already very good in its Game Jam version

[wanton vigil]

absolute peak!

[warm gale]

Someday she will debut with that model

[wanton vigil]

i hope so

[tacit wasp]

I'm kinda curious to know how Neuro can even do what she does and why did she do all that to Anny in particular
Like Mini looks mentally messed up, that sounds about right for hearing the voice of a rogue AI H24 tbh
Anny tho? She's got herself a second face, what happened here?

[cunning inlet]

I think I'll likely have a team next jam with 2 other people, one for audio/music, and one for graphics/art, just to have a bit more originality and also to take some pressure off of myself

and I do hope Vedal follows through with keeping the jam off of subathon, that way not only can he focus more on the game he's creating, but I also don't need to have the stream open in the background the whole time lmao

[warm gale]

Maybe that's just makeup

[tacit wasp]

Who knew anime Skynet could be so good at makeup?

[tacit wasp]

Wait, I haven't heard about that one, what did he say?

[warm gale]

Two things i hope for are:

1. gamejam not right before the New Year
2. 4 days instead of 3
   That would be awesome

[tacit wasp]

I can agree with both
The only reason why I had to use a potato laptop to make my game was because of the Christmas holidays
If we do it later, that would be cool for me

[buoyant flower]

I really agree with 1, Christmas and New Years do have quite a few family commitments for many people. A non-subathon gamejam would be nice at some point.

[tacit wasp]

Let's pray for the Evil Neuro gamejam

[warm gale]

|| ||

[cunning inlet]

He said that normally he nolifes in game jams, but he couldn't this time due to having to manage the subathon as well, so a lot of his attention went to keeping the subathon entertaining, but as a result his game suffered a lot, and he felt bad about it, so he said he wanted to keep the game jam off stream so he can properly focus on game dev and make a proper submission

[tacit wasp]

Ah I see, so it was rather "I'm gonna set Neuro to do some silly things while I code" instead of "I'm gonna move the period of the next gamejam to a later date"?

[cunning inlet]

No, he literally said he didn't want to do another game jam during a subathon

and I assume, by extension, that he might not do any streams during the game jam either. Although I guess a 2-3 hour chill stream wouldn't be that bad to host, but also I have a feeling the next game jam will take place mid-January 2026, right after next subathon ends, which will be a period where Vedal and Neuro will both be on a break for a few weeks

either that or right before the subathon so he has game jam games to play during subathon, which I think makes more sense actually

but that would also mean he has less time to spend on preparing for subathon during his 1-2 week offline break before the subathon, which seems contrary

[lament ermine]

option 3: he is reading this and stealing your ideas

[cunning inlet]

I guess we'll see

[tacit wasp]

Oh alright, got it

[lament ermine]

we have story stuff, only had 1 day to put together what we currently have in the game so 99% of that missing

[cunning inlet]

although now that I think some more, if Vedal's planning on going on a break right after the subathon, he wouldn't be around to dev a game, so maybe he might push it towards like end of February or start of March, when he's back from break and has extra time

[lament ermine]

if you're curious, then stay tuned for the next update 😉

[tacit wasp]

Then consider me hooked and curious about the story

[narrow willow]

just tried a full game any% and boy this gets intense when you discover the "real" movement

[foggy hearth]

I selfishly hope that the plan is still to have Neuro play some of the games with that work with her API. I'm guessing it won't happen though, since there are so many great games this year for Vedal to play.

[wintry cosmos]

Lesson from this jam is to make sure it works in html

[signal monolith]

bro uses windows 95

[narrow willow]

classic theme ftw

[signal monolith]

yeah, but the possibility of you using windows 95 is funnier

[narrow willow]

jokes aside, it would be incredibly hard to port this one to windows 95

[signal monolith]

https://marcosd.itch.io/marcos-mysterious-maze/devlog/707100/editing-my-godot-project-on-windows-95-amazing
I found this weird video, it looks like godot actually works on windows 95 xd

[narrow willow]

[signal monolith]

idk, may be fake

[narrow willow]

yeah this is linux

[signal monolith]

classic

it shows in console that it runs using vulkan which is also sus af

[cerulean jetty]

I mean. If you forced it into opengl mode then it might work, but I doubt.

[signal monolith]

godot sometimes doesn't work right on modern systems, so I really doubt it would run on 95

[narrow willow]

just booted up the emulator, and real windows 95 should look like this

(this is actually 98 but yeah

[buoyant flower]

Probably should have had this effect in the gamejam version, but better late than never.

[waxen trail]

It got killed on theme score which is very fair honestly but I gave up on a more thematic idea in favor of one I'm happier with so it was worth it still imo

That being said, if only I implemented the item mechanic in time things might've been different oh well lol

Also all caught up on Vedal playing games yesterday great to see some of my jam favorites being played

[signal monolith]

I'm with you, theme also killed me

[fringe star]

for me audio absolutely murdered me

[signal monolith]

I think it makes sense lol

[signal monolith]

I've used music and sfx from the internet, If you did that, your score would be much higher

[fringe star]

still 4 stats withing the 50 range is pretty good for me

[signal monolith]

yeah, I think that being very popular has also downsides

as you can see winning game didnt have many ratings

thx to that it dodged the bad ones

[waxen trail]

Glad to see I'm not alone hehe

[signal monolith]

because it wasn't very popular

being unpopular has its upsides

[waxen trail]

This is something you see in bigger jams too tbh

[signal monolith]

oc I'm not saying #1 did something bad, it 100% deserves its place

[waxen trail]

If you have a small game that's just above the threshhold it can mog bigger games simply due to the virtue of less people rating 4 instead of 5

[fringe star]

but still, there is a shitload of really wellmade and good games

[signal monolith]

yeah at least half the games I've played were very good

[waxen wasp]

[waxen trail]

Big and small rating wise xdd but it's just a thing in jams and not necessarily bad. Less rated games totally deserve the spotlight too though so well deserved

[signal monolith]

I agree

[waxen trail]

Yeah for sure

[waxen wasp]

tbh, the other half weren't bad either. (of the ones i played at least)

[waxen trail]

Me and shard both mentioned how there was a massive leap in quality from last year haha

[signal monolith]

I would say only about 10% were complete trash without any effort

[waxen trail]

And last year had bangers too but I definitely think we improved quality wise as a community

[signal monolith]

almost every game had lots of effort poured into it

[fringe star]

yeah

[waxen trail]

How dare you say that about "empty text file so Vedal's game won't be last"!!!

[signal monolith]

or abandoned archive 2

[waxen trail]

Yeesh yeah

[waxen wasp]

last year was the first game-jam for a lot of people, including me.
this year we have a lot of returning participants, who have gained a lot of experience

[signal monolith]

it was the first one for me too

returning jammers had lots more experience thx to the last one

[narrow willow]

As a player I'll have to say, how the hell did you all do this in only 3 days

[fringe star]

for me this was my very first gamejam so i didnt know what to expect, but i think its a good learning experience

[waxen trail]

Okay this is true

About a lot of jam entries lmao

[signal monolith]

I only worked on the game about 10 hours every day

[narrow willow]

(I know almost nothing about game dev so can't really be on the makers side

[waxen trail]

I heard tales of other jammers who barely slept at all

[fringe star]

spent about 64 hrs on it

only slept 2 for 4 hrs

[signal monolith]

yeah, you had lots of content, I'm not surprised

[charred hamlet]

During the jam, I was looking at our game and feeling like we'd done a lot better, and felt quite confident. Then I looked at other people's games, and was like.. "Well fuck". Everyone really stepped up their game this year

[waxen trail]

I try to stay alive and healthy in gamejams so I slept... until the last day where I had to pull an all nighter lol

[waxen wasp]

our game this year (a neuro who cant sing) is running on the "same" game engine i used last year, i just improved it a lot.

[waxen trail]

💯

[signal monolith]

I've just used godot, you can make stuff really quickly in it if you know what you're doing

[tame rapids]

it's interesting how Remnants of the Archive were literary at the bottom in terms of popularity and then got 11th place

[signal monolith]

lol

[waxen wasp]

in my case, pure weaponized autism.
and connections with the people in the programming channel

[tame rapids]

just shows how popularity is not that important

[narrow willow]

I also don't have christmas holiday unless I use PTO

[signal monolith]

few people that played it rated it pretty high, there were few negative ratings that brought it down

[charred hamlet]

Honestly, proper thumbnails are super important

[fringe star]

yeah, but seeing people play our games and enjoy them makes me feel better than winning

[charred hamlet]

Don't neglect your game's page

[tame rapids]

it's also true

[signal monolith]

I've just used an ingame sprite as a thumbnail lol, but mine was an exception, because it was pretty stylized

[waxen wasp]

true.
when we were making it we thought "winners POV" but we ended up #33
1st on audio tho

[fringe star]

I used a screenshot

[buoyant flower]

That is one kind of winners pov

[charred hamlet]

I felt like we did a lot better, but amazingly ended up placing the exact same spot as last year

[signal monolith]

it's still better than lack of thumbnail

[waxen wasp]

we worked shadow to the bone for art, i still feel bad about it

but we do have a thumbnail thanks to him

[charred hamlet]

Yeaaaah we really asked a lot from our artists. But they cooked hard and carried

[waxen wasp]

during day 2 shadow went to bed, and then 4 hours later he said good morning.

i wanted him to sleep longer but i needed that art fast so i didnt say anything

[fringe star]

oh dang

for next time tho, i kinda want to work with a team, someone who i can work with for music and art, but im not sure if they'ed actually join because... scratch

[waxen wasp]

i managed to get an 8 person team while using raw python

its possible

[fringe star]

nah, scratch is like extremely looked down upon so i dont think people would actually join me

[waxen wasp]

is it looked down upon? thats sad

[fringe star]

yeah, thats why people are kinda suprised that neurowars was made in scratch

its seen as an engine for children or an inferior engine

[waxen wasp]

my window api is pygame
im not doing much better in the game-engine for children department

although im using openGL for the actual rendering

[fringe star]

but still, looking at all the past comments questioning how that game was made in scratch does put a smile on my face

[waxen wasp]

deserved

its a good game

[buoyant flower]

While Scratch is initially simple and for children, at some point that becomes a detriment (and a limitation).

Hence, creating something that is not simple is actually quite a lot of effort.

[waxen wasp]

true, in scratch you cant add libraries here and there to fix the shortcomings

[fringe star]

what is this library?

[waxen wasp]

in python, libraries are the "mods" you use to get extra features

[fringe star]

but we do have that?

[waxen wasp]

not in the same way

[fringe star]

?

i mean, everything below "my blocks" is a custom mod that adds more blocks to the vanilla scratch

but yeah, its probably still different

[waxen wasp]

looking at this, its probably not all that diffrent.

main diffrence with scratch is probably the web limitations

[fringe star]

yeah, we do have that but its pretty limited

[waxen wasp]

im using these, along with pygbag to compile it into a webbuild

[fringe star]

webbuild is the thing thats played on browser?