#2024-game-jam
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I hope it doesn't get dragged down by the theme category enough to not be in top 20, that's my current fear. I think it should get close to max score in every other category
Mythical final plug incoming
Brace yourselves
last day until results! yipeee

btw how many winners do we have? and is there like a "best gameplay, music, etc" category and an overall category?
3 more ratings till 40! https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212555
there will be one global ranking and then rankings for each categories
but I think only top 1 overall will get a lavalamp
That Pub game would probably win it I'm calling it
Good game btw
yeah I'm betting on that one too
would love to see the pirate game win tho
deserved imo
I do hope our game at least makes it high in some categories
100% sea of memories is goated
i think i have a chance in gameplay, but for other categories i dont know
vedal's vacation was earlier than expected
sound is gonna drag me down I think, and fun since the game is not completed 
i 100% will be the lowest for sounds/audio and this i know
daily plug, https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212563, slower, darker game, more of an experience than game
so many games have no sound, no one is gonna be last in that category
it will be a 50 way tie at the bottom
which is why i think sound is not the most important category by far

With this odd theme, theme is neither I think ๐ Some implemented the theme extra good, but the rest is like "well they did what they could with that odd theme".
I think it boils down to art, fun and creativity and innovation
true
I saw a lot of game (mine too lol) that just tied it to the lore, and I might be biased but I rated those 3 star on theme cuz that's good enough imo x)
im genuinly playing a five nights at wasp irl, hella thirsty and there is a stupid wasp that doesnt get out
i even said, with the door barely opened, "get out" and it started to move to my direction
here is a good game idea for next game jam
maybe i will leave room till next year
five nights at vedal's tho
my submission next year I claim it no one copy 
i think for fun my list is(not in any order):
Neuro wars (shameless plug
)
sea of memories
evil in time
unhando
Abandoned Pub
Our game will do well in sound, art, theme (maybe?)
we probably won't do well in terms of fun
maybe we score high on creativity
Same. I think I also gave all at least a three for "coming up with a simple generic one sentence backstory that somehow includes the theme and loosely connects it to the game".
Troubleshooting has extremely good ambience so sound design is peak, art is also amazing, maybe above pub on these two categories if i do say so myself.
Tutel rancher 100% sweeps creativity and inovation 
damn tutel left to get milk
almost 4400 total ratings. can we get to 5000 before time runs out?
theres still a day
if you need a game to rate please rate The Timeless Artifact!
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212060
35 games rated, 242 to go, surely we have enough time 

I'm at 44 and it still feels like there's so many game I haven't played or rated yet 
I feel like I liked pub more art-wise because it's just a lot more intensive with art compared to handful of extremely well drawn sprites in Troubleshooting
That being said I ranked both 5 stars on art anyway iirc 
Soundtrack to both lives rent free in my head
OST release when?
100 points on life memory for audio
I have 0 clue what we will do well in this year
last year it was pretty clear we would only stand out in visuals, but we dont have that this year so 
In Godot an audio stream's volume rating ranges from 0Db (Max volume) to -80Db (silent). I'm creating a volume slider to adjust this. Problem is, Decibels are logarithmic, so in reality anything below about -30Db is barely audible, so only really 1/3 of the slider is useful, and this makes fine adjustment in a usable range very difficult.
Does anyone have the perfect Db to volume conversion algorithm that produces a volume slider that adjusts volume in a usable manner?
You can expose only the usable part to the user of you want and manually set it to -80 when they go super low for example
unity is 20 to -80 i think for our game i used this log10(Value) * 20 i didnt come up with it saw it in a tutorial
Thanks i'll try it
Yeah I did do this as an interim but it'd be nice to have the entire range because you can never predict what someone's audio setup is, maybe what's barely audible to me is still useful to them etc.
func _on_abience_sound_effects_slider_value_changed(value: float) -> void:
if value < -40:
$"../ComputerHum".stream_paused = true
else:
$"../ComputerHum".stream_paused = false
$"../ComputerHum".volume_db = value
i think i watched a youtube tutorial on this
wait a sec
I just played Troubleshooting after this and holy I think this is the first time in a long while a game instilled fright into me.
you attach this script to the slider
it's mainly this line: value = db_to_linear(AudioServer.get_bus_volume_db(bus_index))
Plus make it like that (3:28)
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Troubleshooting is extremely good 
fine guys, I'll play troubleshooting
the audio goes crazy, I should play it again with lights out for maximum neuro effect
Good news, there's a built-in function for what I want https://docs.godotengine.org/en/4.3/classes/class_@globalscope.html#class-globalscope-method-linear-to-db
Global scope constants and functions. Description: A list of global scope enumerated constants and built-in functions. This is all that resides in the globals, constants regarding error codes, keyc...
Annoying though, it's not mentioned anywhere on the docs page
certified godot moment
won't this work?
Yeah should be perfect, I just didn't know about it because it wasn't mentioned anywhere
i meant this
yeah looks like this uses the function, nice 
i played it during a brownout(electricity got cut, 0 lights) with a flashlight as my room light
im glad to say, i didnt sleep that night properly and had to wait for sunrise
isn't that a blackout?
localy we call it a brownout
i heavy suggest going full lights out with a bad flashlight when playing troubleshooting
with headphones
bonus points if you play in a room with a window to the left, a door to the right, a giant mirror behind you, and have a bedframe where theres a lot of space below the bed
but everything is dark when lights are out, not brown ๐ฆ
blackout is alot wider
why brown? What is brown about lack of electricity?
White out - snowed in
Black out - no power
Brown out - less power
What other outs can we define
Wait, aquwa plays Neuro-game-jam games? 
?
Haven't started yet ig, but she has it in the title
https://www.twitch.tv/aquwa
ใDAY 31 AQUWATHONใPLAYING NEURO GAME JAM ๐ Catching up with Neuro all day! | !discord !gg
I don't like reaction content, but Vedal gave her permission, so I am ok with watching her react to Neuro
it's her, right?
yea its her
I watched a few of her videos even before she discovered Neuro
me too, and I liked her
but I like reaction content
shes friends with staz or something, so i think thats probably why shes drifting towards the neuroverse
i kinda thought shed just stay a reacter but i did notice recently there was a cerber + ellie + mini + aquwa collab
which is just like pinnacle of neuroverse squad
Aquwa new member of Neuroverse in 5?? 
do i get a sprite prepared for her in anticipation ๐
maybe one day
never mind, new member down, o7
shes starting to play the game jam games now for anyone interested
shes starting with pub tho so might be a while till she gets to any others haaha
if somone is watching, tell me if she plays my game plz
remind me which game it is ill ping you if it happen
I think she said she will play the top 10 games in popularity ?
time to play neurosoda's game
aaaa 10?
i think we're like 12 :c
please do, it will forever change your life
at least that what I think I heard 
our is top 14 
the plan is to play the top 10 by popularity
I feel like going through the 'most rated' list is actually closer to how popular a game is then actual popularity. I cant seem to understand the popularity rankings. 
actually I just checked: she is going by most rated instead of popular
Oh nice she'll play the dating sim then 
Since its the last day I'll plug mine (for the first and last time) for those who havent rated it
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213062
I have played, it was cool, does it really run on real gb?
my life has been forever changed, I would like to thank NeuroSoda for this opportunity, 10/10 peak
pixelart is so cute, it melts my heart and soul
I liked this one a lot. Very cute.
fact
there is no egg in eggplant and you cook bacon but bake cookies
Distinction of cooking and baking makes sense for me. In Russian we have equivalents for both but nobody would say anything if you say you cooking something instead of baking I think.
no I mean like, you cook bacon but not cookies
and you bake cookies but not bacon
In Russian btw "to bake" and "cookie" have same root (pjech)
yea
btw we just reached 150k subs on stream (also lvl 31 of hypetrain lol)
lvl 35 rn
but its 10 secs left
o7
love the random hype train just to flex
did valorent Really donate 95k subs? thats insane!
ah dang it
I literally just went away for a few minutes and we lost
Sadge
they were doing a new year sale, like if u buy 5+ subs then 30% of them is paid by Valorant
also I think it's like 5 times less
dope!!
Aquawa plays Tutle Rancher now 
And Vedal Secret next 
And sea of memories last
๐ฅ





so many good games... so little time to rate...
Started working on the Neuro support, I think it's going well
by the way, anyone still in need of ratings here? I think I tried most people's game here, but just in case
or some story-based games? I played the time traveling Evil one yesterday, was really nice
im pretty sure you've played ours already
Yeah you commented on it
still haven't played yours but if you want:
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212060
Checking it out!
(also a self plug: https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213260)
playing it right now!
Is today the last day of rating games?
ooo this looks really cool!
i hope i can play this one before the end of rating
yeah

surely alex will not extend rating period last minute
i pray
Question, how does the rating system work?
Iโm asking cause some games have a high amount of ratings, while others have fewer.
Would a game with a single rating of 5 be ranked higher than a game with 100 ratings averaging 4.5?
Iโm just curious! ๐
your score is lowered if the number of ratings is lower than the median amount.
idk by how much tho
there is a formula for that
but you can always check on website
Analyze your Itch.io Game Jam results and view jam statistics
this one
Ohh it says here that my game ranks 44?
Thats a good number ๐
Daaa i don't understand
it says we are cool though ๐
actual scores will be after end of rating period
*wants to quickly try a game*
*virtualbox decides to broke completely*
(sandboxie)
- unvirtuals your box *
what, you don't trust fellow game jammers? 
yeah, I happen to be on Linux at the moment
Are Wine and Proton even compatible with Unity, Gobot and Unreal?
but virtualbox version X doesnt work with linux kernel version Y so I had to install virtualbox version Z oh but oracle's site just happened to be updated so I ran into some 502 errors, then VB threw some random UI error because it no longer understands its own config files from a previous version, so had to clean it up, then fix the window image from the previous version in system restore mode because why would it work ofc
admittedly i did not try playing any of the windows games on linux
but it seems to boot now
I'm already used to virt-manager so I can't help you there.
okay, now playing eri's game which looks really cool so far
i use wine and proton and its working fine for every game i played
yeah usually works for me too, but this one uses multiple windows and wine freaked out
Oh it's the Timeless Artifact?
nah x11
though it seems to be a Godot game so probably I could replace the executable, oh well
yup
ah
Strange, I remember using wine for windowkill v1.0 under wayland and it worked alright.
but rootless?
i can see it working on rootful xwayland but last time i tried it wouldnt work on rootless
All of the windows belonged to the compositor, not a rootful xwayland window.
damn i guess that was fixed since last time i checked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZpZwunMzuE
Also did this under wine. (granted the compositor was being executed but it worked)
Yes, this runs in realtime.
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lmao
oh dang you played windowkill? saw it on a stream when it released, very cool idea ๐
didnt expect it to work since oneshot doesnt work either
Yeah, surprised the itch version worked at all
was thinking the same
At least for windowkill in particular, v3.0 has native linux support IIRC. Not sure how that works tho
yeah i saw that and was super surprised. I guess godot is just that good! 
finally rated all the games from the people who commented on mine
godot is open source, so some random person who likes linux added it/fixed it
I like this about godot, there's always a simple solution to everything because someone already thought about it and added it, while in unity you have to fight the enigne to have something as simple as sprite billboarding
but window positioning in multi-window applications on wayland is a problem that was being discussed for a long time and i dont think a proper protocol has been designed yet, so I'm surprised that works at all
but it has it's downsides, godot is often buggy and some elements kinda clash with each other, or more often, are badly documented
godot is build different lol
In my opinion it is, but sometimes people choose the consistency of unity and I'm not surprised
yeah
Many games on this gamejam that were made with Godot required Vulkan which I don't have
At least 3 or 4 from ones I played
Which isn't a lot but it's like 10%
And not very comfortable to play these
no vulkan support on your gpu? 
the default renderer forward+ requires vulkan
you can choose compatibility when exporting and it supports opengl
oof
for example my game has "no vulkan" version
I mean I still can run it but it's just more complicated
imo it should be said somewhere in BOLD LETTERS in godot
it's like this
Same problem that I had with Buckshot Roulette so I already knew what to do when I realised that it was the issue
IMO it should be "REQUIRES GPU TO SUPPORT VULKAN, ONLY NEWER GPU'S SUPPORT VULKAN"
more people would notice
huh i think they changed that since i last saw it i remembered it said that its not supported by all devices
to be fair, only really old gpus dont support it
I know, but tons of people still use them
my 10+ year old laptop's integrated gpu supports vulkan
so its only very few people that will need that
i just always include a web build so that everyone that can access the game page will probably be able to play the game 
web build also requires vulkan according to my testing, if you don't export it in compatibility mode
pretty weird
Isn't there some software fallback for that case? Like there's Mesa for Linux, probably there's something for Windows too
thats very weird
How one of you say "tons of people" and other "only very a few people"
maybe godot uses webgpu instead of webgl
but i dont use godot
im pretty sure my web build works without vulkan
not like i have a machine to test that on though..
probably another godot weirdness
R u talking about one for gamejam or smth else?
yeah
Control the swarm to stop the rampage of an old version of Neuro that has gone rogue. Play in your browser
shameless self plug 
I'll check it later ig
actually playing it right now
I think it should work with web build tbh even without vulkan
thanks it would be nice to know if it works
bruh, no thumbnail debuff
yeah 
im way too tired to draw a thumbnail
i will after the jam is over lol
Lemme selfplug then too
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344
thank you!! :3
Oh dang didn't even notice that at first
ill play it 
I also forgot to make thumbnail and just added a screenshot at 2nd day xd
Yea I just figured out that no thumbnail will probably be bad for popularity so I should add at least something xd
almost every popular game has pretty thumbnail
when i submitted the game i was just so done i didnt even wanna think about the itch page lol
i thought i can update that at any time anyway so surely i could update it the next day... but im still way too tired to work on that
I'm pretty sure "almost" is unnecessary in this case
like two or three just use ingame screenshots
Also wow u rated a lot of popular ones
i've just rated a lot
Technically, still a thumbnail
Also thx, would appreciate that
techincally yes, but I meant a unique, special made thumbnail
Just gonna warn, if u feel that final boss is too hard, there are options to slow down the game or become invincible that can help u
I really hope we get more time to rate games
same
Oh wow I dropped a lot since morning, it was like 53th I think... I really thought I'd have a chance for top 50 here, xd
I don't, I played a ton of games last three days
I actually didn't play much last 2 days cuz was more busy with other stuff
I had literally nothing better to do lol
I think I played like only 3 Saturday and 0 Sunday
๐๐๐
I really need that extra week
I'd love some extra time too
At 44 rated games
Also website says our game is 20th in popularity but in reality it's shown 37th on the page
Vedal's never going to play it
whats ur game
Double plug xd
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344
Your game is one of the most addictive out there 
Yippie thank you 
Been working on Neurosama SDK integration today in the hopes it will be used on stream someday
It works overall, just need to add context for Neuro to understand what's going on
popularity/number of rates doesn't matter ultimately, only ranks at the end
The games I will very likely play even after gamejam:
- Evil in Time (gotta get all the endings)
- Sea of Memories (gotta get that 200 atk)
- Unhando (gotta break that integer overflowing)
Probably some others too, like Neuro wars, but most likely only thier updated versions
One of the best games here
You're totally right
Evil in Time was quite good
I have some hopes for fun & creativity ranks, outside of that idk 
Out of all 45 games I've played none got more total stars than Evil in Time from me
At least for now
yeah, evil in time is the only game that got a perfect score from me
I watched Aquwa play my game, not only did she 100% it on stream but she didn't censor anything, this is the difference between a true streamer and femboy tutel, she also played as I intended, trying different combinations and her gameplay was pretty fun, I already knew her reacting content before this so I'm pretty happy she liked it.
Not a perfect from me but quite close
I'm glad you still got a well deserved full playthrough of your game haha
shame she didn't play mine, but I didn't want to coax her into it, that would be dishonest
Though can't blame Vedal for skipping it at the same time 
The only game with same total score as Evil in Time for me was Evil's Malice, not 25/25 too but really good one
It was for the best, I'm sure he has like 10 hours off stream with my game 
I'm totally playing Evil in time tomorrow this is it ๐ค
Femboy tutel didn't even listen to Never Gonna Give You Up when TruckFM played it on this stream
Does he always skip all the fun?
Yep, and that's why we love him
True lol
Bro does everything he can to not say it back
to alex oc
too sober for this

next time i need to sleep properly during the jam to have energy to play the games after
I am a master of the art
try drawing some circles
I wish I could play that game properly
I can't, my grand-daughter just stabbed me
Even on my PC, my screen isn't large enough to have the whole game shown
What screen was this game even made for?
It's in the comments, I don't remember exactly
*fart
Okay I have no idea how not to get stabbed by Evil
Why did this remind me of VSauce telling that Earth without "_h" is just a fart
smart
any last day raters?
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211255
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213022 Last day plug :D
i have the update ready for when the voting ends
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212060 sure why not?
i will most likely be playing them after the voting ends too
still need to finish last year tho
15 hrs left, goodluck everybody
Shameless last day plug
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213034
Shameless plug last day
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213125
lmao kek
can u add graphics settings on the post-jam update ๐ญ my laptop cant handle UE stuff
oh dang yea i can look into it
Can't be shameless if everyone does it as well
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211795
https://voidbois.itch.io/troubleshooting Soon, even this game jam will be a remnant of the past
am kinda nervous to see the ratings once it concludes, hoping it goes well
It's good to be nervous, it means that you care, accept the emotion and be happy about it, or at least that's what I usually do 
tutel rancher more popular than abandoned pub. game of the year easily
ill be a little disappointed if i do too poorly for vedal to play the game again xD
tutel cant play 278 games, it sadly be like that
yea is just sad cuz i screwed myself on it last year
i totally should have been at a level to be played last year if i just like, added nonzero sound loool
i was on vacation last year when he eventually played last years games and heard he played mine but i never saw it. heard from friend that he was mostly tired and didnt rly react much during that strim
Yeah, but that's a good learning experience, and you can always try again next time
Last year he played my game but the main mechanic was broken and the ending scene didn't trigger, but it was okay
and this year you got your revenge LMAO
I'm excited that I got as many plays as I did this year. Don't know if we have a shot of winning but it was fun to do this again at least!
The song alone was worth every bit of stress of this year
me too, really happy with the amount of people playing, commenting and replying about my game, theres no shot i can win tho
maybe the real remnants of the past are the friends we make along the way
definitely a great learning experience
I learned a lot too in this jam
by far the best game I made in a game jam
I wished I could've shared it more at the start of the rating period but I'm still proud of how many plays I got
how long do you think it would be before the scores gets revealed?
wouldnt it just be once the rating ends?
Surely spending a day making background lava lamp shader for post-jam update is worth it
WORTH IT
This is the best I can do, now I'll rest x.x
thats really impressive, ive been too tired to play the games so ive only played a few, im rushing now to rate more lol
Thank you! All download only and low rated, if I had to recommend just one, It would be this hidden gem:
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212278
ill definitely try it later, right now im working through the games from people who left a comment on mine though haha
i finally rated them all earlier today then instantly got 3 more comments 
I really should have rated more games this year, just didn't have much energy to rate them.
same
I rated what I could, have college and exam stuff to deal with
ill be happy if i can play the games from people that commented on mine and from the people i talked to here
and maybe the popular ones if i have time
Same
Stressful part of my life, energy levels dripped dramaticaly
Im sorry 
yall good entries gotta make shorter games :c save some time for the rest of us geez
otherwise vedal goes to play games for one day, plays a game for 5 hours, and gets to nothing else lmao
If you don't you get executed mhm
but in all seriousness, we don't have much playtime
Another plug for the road
sorry chief, the only way i can make a fun tactics game is to have multiple different levels with different playstyles that give a lot of player freedom
i'll try to make a shorter one next time
That is insane! ๐ฎ
Small question, is there going to be a list or a forum for people to submit their game as "Neuro ready"
I mean, either the team is working on a neuro build or has one ready.
Maybe that would help Vedal see what games are "Neuro ready" ๐
quick question whats the "neuro playing games called" program called
i know its called neuro sdk, im wondering if it has another name, cuz i cant seem to find sdk in the gallery, so that i can try to make her play
heres the link https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk

Haha, yeah
We are working on a post game jam build
And hopefully a Neuro-able build ๐
A happy accident? ๐
We might double down on the glitch ๐
Honestly thought it was on purpose when playing
||Like she was filtering the screen itself||
stopped here, will see if I can manage 25 today but I got my doubts x)
pls no
i cant see anything lmao
I don't know if I'll be able to reach 50, sadge
rate the ones that seem low quality enough, usually those take like 3-20mins
like this one cus this is just a memory game
I remember someone said they manage to get their llm to test their game with the neuro api
Wanted to ask, if someone can do that, would it be too much trouble if our team asks for help testing the neuro build? =3
there is a link to 'jippity' in the SDK that uses OpenAI for that. can maybe try contacting the devs of that?
could also try the graphical tool and just control it all manually ('Tony'), though that depends on your game?
why don't people mark they games as compatable for windows
yea it works

hopefully
hopefully, btw did u get any endings other than that "losing" one?
I got 3/5
I have an idea for some of the other ones too
just played Vedal's Secret, this was so fun lmao
what did u do for the 2?
Vadul has to play it on stream
im stuck
I got 2/5
For Filter-sama, you need to ||spam spam spam spam spam spam!||
I need to replay Evil In Time to try to get some endings
Does that help enough? if not then say so and I'll give you another hint

I hope we get more time to rate cuz I've got like 10 more games I'd like to play but no time to do it today
Same
You all are really organized! ๐ฎ
I just made a sheet for myself cuz it's easier to understand what I should play
i already did that but it got me 1/5 
Memory Lanes not seen on there hold on
:)
also it's kinda easier to keep ratings less subjective (imo) cuz I compare ratings to other I gave
Oh nice
Then in the first event ||If you impersonate Neuro and say you love anny you can get her instead of Layna for the second event. There will be a unique option there||
which one did u get?
the lose ending
Deletion from sus one I imagine 
oh
i may need to replay the game again
yea just don't get too sus xd
i didn't know that 
Which second ending did you get? 
Spoiler it
pls
First time I played Evil In Time, I went to the family stream and made Evil show up
Turns out showing someone that doesn't exist yet to Vedal is pretty sus 
||Anny ending, the one where they escaped from Vadul and went to live with Anny||
Yeah I love that one 
I also got a victory ending when you drop the percentage below a certain threshhold
There's also probably a ||neuro victory / "major loss" ending|| and a ||victory but with anny? maybe? or something else|| ending
I'm so back 
Nice
Final score today? 
I got 39 reviews in my game, someone wants to bump it up to 40 ๐
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211398
6 hours left 
What was the Vedal's game jam game again?
Still going strong on 6th
remnants of vedal's coding ability
planned to make a unit that can teleport to assist camila when she's infiltrating back lines, the concept for the design was a frog ninja
does this look decent enough?
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3208404
last minute ratings appreciated
final plug time
mine is a pretty short one to try (around 10 minutes) https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212755
Is it plug time? https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213260
This one is around 15-20 minutes I think
Lmao, Aquwa beat sea of memories with the same crew and almost the same stats as me
Let me know if she plays our game
She played yesterday, I was just rewatching the VOD
Ah ok
sea of memories is the last game she played if i remember correctly
She played pub, rancher, Vedal's secret, Fragmented, Sea of Memories
yep
man such a shame i cant play all of them
your game is very sweet btw :3
thank you!
I saw your comment and agree with it, tried to balance between being easy, but still have some challenge (I saw some people getting stuck), and of course fitting into the time
also had to cut many dialogs and the whole item inspect feature (which would be useful with the photos), I'm adding them in the post jam version
No way, watching the vod now 
Took her a while to figure out supply and fog mechanics tho 
lmao
Me too, my second run was Evil + 2xCerber, and I had 87 attack and 6 health 
Although, strongset crew is probably Neuro+Anny+Layna
there'll be a forum post some means to do this soon 
game jam rater don't forget to focus on low rated game !
one rating on a 5 rated game mean an increase of 5% in the final score with the current median ! (sqrt(6/14)-sqrt(5/14))
also most of the game under median are downloable game...
Would it be advantageous for me to extend the rating period?
no idea tbh
a lot of the game bellow 5 rates can't be executed at all because of missing files too
last time I checked it was 14 I think ? (maybe 15 now
)
just checked, median is 14
todays good i think
it feels so nice to not have to worry about begging for rates compared to last time. My game has almost reached the 2nd row in terms of popularity too which is wild
Well deserved, I think Evil's Malice and Evil in Time were maybe my favorites this jam
Imo rating period is good now
Will the scores be visible right after voting period ends or there will be some delay?
wdym almost the second row?
wait nvm, i thought evil in time was yours, got mixed up with evil's malice my bad
still awesome job
I can kinda see how they could get mixed up, somewhat similar title names and thumbnails xd
I haven't actually seen Evil In Time, but I guess I'll get to watch Vedal play through it
4 hours left 
It seems like i've reached the second row if im not mistaken?
Can somebody verify?
Thx, mine were 7 tiles
o, jace yours on the second row 
I'm a bit lower at row 8 I think?
Well at least I'll have some time to understand the Neuro SDK before Vedal plays them
No matter if its second or third im still really happy
My little game climbed a lot
also happy since this is my first time getting into a game jam, and seeing a lot of people play our games does put a stupid grin on my face
Same, I'm very happy with all that happened
Even if my browser version is a bit scuffed, it still helped a lot
Yours can be downloaded and kept, for me i need to have internet to enter the website to play my game, both of us have our own strengths and weaknesses
honestly, while i do agree, i also heavily prioritize dev's personal feelings (as long as its stuff not related to attacking other people) and would want them to not push themselves too hard and enjoy game dev
alex extending rating period

wait really?
I would rather see the final ratings faster, but I don't mind if some people need the extended time
There's 0 reason to extend voting
Pushed our teams coolness to 40 today 
Doing my last second ratings 
for rating
same except its like 90% of my ratings
I just made sure I rate a bit more than the amount of rating my game had, just to make sure I wasnt abusing the coolness system
I don't think?
No it doesnt, but some people have been abusing the system by rating as much as they can without actualy playing the games and/or putting a genuine rating
Not saying it might be the case in this gamejam but its a thing that happens
Rating period extension might be inefficient as the velocity of total ratings gained has decreased
I don't need that system to know that everyone here is cool
Made it over 40 ratings!!! 
But you'll get score decrease if you don't have enough ratings, so we should rate games that have few ratings
There should always be encouragement in a game jam to participate in rating games and to look at some fewer rated games
Yep!
so we should rate ones that have less than 14 for now
There are a few. But cannot force people to play games that do not speak to them in any way
maybe rate ones that are right on the boundary
This one seems to be underated :( https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3210081
i played a few games that seemed underrated but are very fun or well made
one of the first i've played
yep and you can see game that need rating here https://itch.io/jam/neuro/unrated
Will play it after the one I planned !
the solution is so easy, everyone should just play every game 
this low rated game look cool and has a cool concept but I'm kinda stuck. probably by my skill issue
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213036
I have finished v1.1 of my submission, little less than 3 hours left
not the best crew but it works ig
Watching her play initially is psychic torture but once she understands the mechanics it's a lot of fun
it's good reference to see how people understand the game without a tutorial
Yeah, her gamesense is also not the best, but it really is what an average gamer is like
Yeah, I'm more used to games like this so it lets me see outside my bias 
I don't think it's possible in our case 
It's a good problem to have lmao
oo, aquwa is playing game jam games as well? poggies
Well not really a problem, I don't think anybody expects you to rate a billion games D:
Rating an amount you think is decent is enough
And beyond that it's just bonus 
there are a lot of these btw
everything up to Company Property rn
Btw, your game was the last game I rated today, you really did overscope for a solo project 
But the visuals were really good, it really felt like a game with proper art direction 
so about 130 games or so
btw, was it the game that can run on an actual GB?
Yeah, it was my first gamejam ever so lesson learned 
Still working on it after the gamejam tho
We did the same last year, we had a team of 13 people, and we decided to make an Unreal Engine FPS game 
thats a big team!
Also yeah it can be run on actual hardware , someone even put it on their TI calculator
thats impressive as hell
trying rolling girl right now, saw this in the description... I'm both a touhou and a gungeon player so i feel legally obligated to do hard now 

holy moly, how
The more I play Sea of Memories the more I like it
sadly, my army of Cerbers was defeated by the time god
Can't believe someone made an Undertale battle against Gaster Neuro in C in one day
take eliv and 2 cumilq
this is the best ATK crew in game rn
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213290
If anyone is interested
Very low quality (still impressive for a C program written in a day) but the bullet hell is a bit nice (ft. Gaster Blasters ofc)
Cerber is pretty great too! but you can win even with Vedal (it is a bit tough though lol)
i cant play all games before game jam ends so hopefully this plug is accepted https://www.youtube.com/@neurog4mes
That's impressive as hell, also your pixel art is ABSOLUTE PEAK
Will you still try to upload videos of the games after it's done?
Thanks! its so much harder to get something good with the gameboy limitations ๐ So I'm glad people like them
yes as well as post-jam updates
now I wanna get tripple vedal and win lmao
It turned out amazing still!!! Do you have any tips for getting gud at pixel art? 
tutel% speedrun
i fucking kneel
making a gameboy in 2024 is so fucking based
runs well on my low-end laptop too
My friend already did that 
He a legend for it
I hope so considering you can play the tihng on a calculator of all things 

You can only get more Vedals as a captain through a special event (coldfish -> campfire)
that might be even more impressive than my 200 atk run
So it's borderline impossible
are all types of tiles equally likely to appear?
btw remember how I calculated the max possible damage to be 433 atk? Turns out it's wrong and theoretically u could go way higher
Makes sense with how little power a GameBoy has, so games that run on one barely have anything to process on any modern machine
๐ฆ
Yeah! Though technically the boss is always placed so enemy tiles are the tiniest bit more likely
makes sense! What about events and crewmates, are they equally likely to appear on their tiles too? Like chance of getting vedal is same as chance of getting layna e.g.
Yeah, though I removed duplicates of the captain
it's not a chinese spyware, right?
So no 3 eliv
wow i got three comments last night 
I hope not because I'm done for otherwise
virus total looks pretty good, but I'm still a bit worried
yea I remember that
But the source code is provided so feel free to look
So far, I see nothing in the file

I play a lot of the download only games on an old laptop.
I did want to add items to the games that you can find in the digsites which will give you fun effects or buffs too but ran out of time ๐
Maybe in the future if the artist I worked with wants to add that
apparently they uploaded a full playthrough on bilibili (link in comments) so there's an alternative to downloading
welp
Flee button !!!
well its definitely not an emulation issue since wine literally stands for "wine is not an emulator" 
Does it stand for that... recursively? 
yup lol
but yeah jokes aside theres something weird going on when i try to run games through wine where if i switch focus to a different window the game just crashes, has been happening for every game so its something with my installation
Maybe I should just make a linux native version after the jam ends
that would be really nice!
finished my calculations, the most u can get is probably 1134 atk
there is a chance that u could go ~9 more but I don't think it's possible
Added a linux native to my post-jam version plans
That's madness D:
Does it also take into account the recruiting tiles?
For 2 cumilq?
yea but it needs the whole 15x15 place to be perfectly made
yea
Wew
the way u get 1134 atk is by first getting a lot of frozen tutels (I forgot the name) and chats to delay fog by a lot
then u get 2 cumilq and a lot of imp events
Damn, that's impressive calculation 
and i thought the 50 attack i got in my first run was good 
The highest I've seen in an actual run is 200 (or 180?), but that's some serious glass cannon builds 
This is just the currently theoretical limit
thats insane lmao
19 games rated im so tired 
like 12 of those in the past 12 hours
so many good games, so little time
I just realised there is a problem as you'd have to go into fog for 2 turns lol
u still can get over 1100 for sure but it just requires a bit different map ig
I just remembered that last year by the time the rating period ended, the subathon was already finished
I remember being in a public voice call on this server while anxiously waiting for the results, Alex was there too
iirc last year the rating period got extended again and again
We can still do the voice call though 
yeah I think the initial rating period was like 3 days, and then we were like "that's nowhere near enough" and extended it to a week total?
Felt like it wasn't enough and then it got extended to infinity
But that's probably just my memory rather than the actual length 
I think my memory is accurate
fixed, u can still get that amount without going into fog
Almost time
I'm a lot less anxious this year about my result. Last year I just wasn't sure how well accepted my game would be, being that weird mashup of reused assets from other places, but still being a comprehensive experience. Now that I know my submission was accepted with open arms last year, I feel way better about my chances this year
Here's solution I came up with. Blue and cyan are for frozen tutel (+3 fog delay), green are for chat (+3 supply), magenta are cumilq, all shades of red are imp events (+8 damage)
basically u gain a bunch of delays for fog so it doesn't move for a while, then u get a lot of attacks
that is insane
Wow this is insane, very cool!!! 
Technically this will grant you the ultimate win
now that I think of it, there might be a way to get even more than 1134 atk if u move on sides instead of zigzag
oh wait I fogtot, it's not 1134
Oh god last year I only had 2 other people with me, and Fragment Of An AI didn't do too well.
But THIS year was wayyyyyy better
someone should calculate the chance to get that run
this exact run is like 0%, but there are other equal routes (e.g. diagonally mirrored) that would work same way
though it still is insanely low to get either of those
got my post jam update ready to launch 
unless extension ofc
I've got my update ready as well
same
granted I didn't change too much
my initial plan was to actually add a 4th area as well, with a "Gymbag" relic at the end, but I ended up deciding I probably wouldn't have time, and I was correct. Otherwise my game would have contained a quiz show as well lmao
was your game Evil's Malice, iirc?
yes
oh that's a good one
Guys


do we get the score immediately?
if I find a route for 167 turns that will result in exactly no change of fog, which has more than 85 tiles of events, it will be even more OP run
and honestly, that sounds possible
everyone with their updates ready to launch meanwhile i didnt even start working on mine

Real
I tried to start the Neuro SDK for Lua yesterday and nothing worked and the instruction are a bit confusing
It's gonna be fun
good luck!
looks ominous
Looks like a terminator gymbag to me for some reason
theres a massive horde of enemies at stage 10 cuz i wasnt able to fully implement this guy
had a friend beta test my new vers. yea, he was gaming
same lol
My team rated 25% of the games and I rated 33 of them !
quick, 90 more ratings for the big 5k
since people were having difficulties differentiating units i kinda just made the enemies look different

Ah
I haven't played your game yet
I actually just decided that I was gonna play it right now just before the voting phase ends lmao
uh what the heck, my game dropped like 10 ranks in pop what happened 
It was way higher earlier
sometimes game are fast to finish. sometimes they take 1-2h 
really depend on what game you are playing
I rated like something like 15 game today
yea i had games that literally took 2 min
oh
weird 
and there was an incremental type game that takes, half hour? longer? lol
I know one that might have taken you 2-3 hrs 
i take more time giving feedback
I had played an incremental game but I could just put it in the background
even if the game is super short i usually take at least an hour to properly rate and comment
are you talking about your game ? my team already rated yours before I can try it 
I just
don't comment
(most of the time) (I still have a kinda self comment in my spreadsheet. but really dirty & kinda only for me)
this is very much appreciated
if it wasn't for me watching the subathon, I would have played and rated so many more games
I still played quite a few though in the free time I had
last jam there were few ppl who rated every single game but 120 games is easier than 270 lmao
ooh interesting, Im not sure why but somehow adding screenshots to my submission lowered its popularity rank? or maybe people are rushing to play other games rn
i like when people comment on my games so i try to comment on every game i play

I try to leave comments for most games, but then I notice most things were mentioned already by others, so it ends up far shorter than intended
oh well
damn, that's a lot
I've only rated 50 games
I do like to comment but got kinda scared after this warning 
I kinda only comment if I think I have something constructive not already said or a funny thing

got bit too funny
Oh god there's a lot of levels
btw who's planning after jam update to their game?
me
but ill probably only start working on it tomorrow or the day after
i am exhausted
I will but not instantly after the end of the voting phase
We do, one of our dev did worked a lot but I just did not had time 
We've got a patch coming once voting ends, then later (hopefully) this week SDK implementation 
I'm not sure if I will tbh but I might
I do, both content and Neuro SDK support
same
I'm making some bug fixes and speedruning qol
MAYBE neuro integration
hard to say
I think I'll delay the post-jam version just a bit, a few more polishing thingies I want to finish first. But the SDK is half complete 
there are some thing that would be nice to add but I don't really think someone will even play it xd
Neuro integration is pain when you have essentially 3 different minigames to implement.. 
btw a question, imp event gives +2 supply if u have 2 cumilq, right?
i pretty much only had time to implement the basic combat systems during the jam so my game has no content its just a single completely randomized fight lol
so i got a lot of work to do
Us, although our main dev just decided to do it by himself, so I am here stuck doing PR stuff for our game 
I think it always gives +3 supplies
oh wait it was +3, nice
lgtm ๐ (i helped)
being a solo dev has its perks lol
Already been working on it
But I wanted to help 
then u can just get those events instead of chat to get supply while delaying fog, like that
i love these diagrams
1348 is the max attack then
this is probably the final number as I don't think there is a better way to do it, unless something I forgot gives u more fog delay
HOW DID OUR GAME GO FROM 70TH TO 126TH IN POPULARITY HOLY
my game stayed in the exact same spot
the whole way through
its actually crazy
it was always exactly 265th
like 900 more than I got at first 
idk how itch calculates the popularity rank but theres some magic going on here
I'm still 46th
yeah and we also had extended time for rating and still i had barely managed to rate all 122
Phew, I think I'll stop now
huge

damn wtf
Same I got a massive drop too, I think people are scrambling to play and rate games before the end
Also there are some nice gems among the low rated games too
true
nice job!
Holy, our game has a lot of ratings (haven't checked in 2 days) 
I still can't stop laughing about it 
alr I will go rate a few more games while there is time
i have accepted that i will end with the very unsatisfying number of 19 rated games
Only 11 more to get to 100 ratings... Alex, raise the timer 
10 mins
also can't wait for jam page to crash
10 minutes until update time

rated 2 more games xd
I rated Neuro Wars, I'm done 
oooooohhhh
1 minute 
last minute...
30s...
Is Vedal gonna have to give away multiple lava lamps or only one? The answer soon
GET READY FOR RESULTS
15s? Are you into the future?
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
over yippyy

Yaaaay

jebaited xD

Damn, we don't have the results yet
it's probably locked until mods check everything
15th place in popularity, not bad
whether some tomfoolery didn't occur
bruh....
great job making games everyone
gj everyone
GG guys
We got screwed last hour because of people trying to play the games
Many absolute gems this jam, community cooked 
that was fun
imagine playing games in a gam jam smh
true
1,000,000% True
Popularity dropped from 70th place to 126th because of the last hour stuff
Everyone made great games, you all should be proud
mine went up instead 
Can someone give me the analytic website?
importent thing is fun and experience...(famous words before tilting over rankings)
When will we have the results? 
someday
Got to 5th which in my opinion is crazy, absolutely crazy
I got 21th top 25 thats good I'm happy
Our game is 22nd in most rated
Ok, seriously, where do I find the ratings (the 1 to 5 stars on each category) for my submission? I literally can't find it ANYWHERE on the jam page
Still can't see the results 
or number of rating
results arent out yet
Not available yet
Oh, I would've thought that you'd be able to see your own ratings at the very least...
I'm happy tutel rancher is the most popular, based community
I wanna be productive and do other stuff but
I know I can't focus until the results are in 
it's pretty common for game jams to do it, mods need to check for some suspicious stuff
Oh I can't even see how many people rated my game anymore
I just realized: Popularity really doesn't mean all too much unless your game also has a large amount of ratings as well. You could be the most popular game at the moment but still have a lower score than a game who had less people playing.
The person who got first place in the Brackeys 2024.2 game jam made an IOS build - no one downloaded it and they upvoted it to shit with 20 spare accounts 
Then their entry got deleted
bruh
i mean, i am pretty sure popularity is also outside of the jam, like, if just random ppl played it and stuff
what, really, i also took part in that jam xD
Text is no more
oh, u can't see on the rating page but u can see on analytics page
Oh
Public jams are crazy like that, that's why I thought it was mega based that Alex & Vedal added a "must have PC / Web build available"
41 people rated our game
No way!! what's your entry from that jam? :D
This was me last year lol
I think it's so alex and vedal can play every game
makes sense
lol
True but it prevents some other sus behavior luckily lmao
So they won't have to buy a gameboy just to play that one game lol
I'm joking oc
Moneka cant stop checking the gamejam page and chat, she s a schizo. Tell her to leave from here
Of course, that's what I said, if you have more than 20 ratings, you can still top the highest rated game
Real 
tbh that was my weakest jam/game since i was kind of burned out and didn't have time to rate and comment on other games so low ratings rekt my score
That's fair then

Such round numbers
(2nd in popularity is crazy
)
Who here remembers Fragment Of an AI?
top 0% 
congrats :3
Also LMAOOOO THE GAME VEDAL HAD TO CLOSE GOT NUMBER ONE IN POPULARITY
congrats!
its definitely goty
Popularity has correlation with high ratings cuz good games tend to get both, but by no means does popularity guarantee a good rating
That's crazy 
Vedal gave them a bite on stream, the people needed more 
did you see mine 
He gave the masses a taste, and then cut it off before they could be satisfied. Obviously it gets #1
yeah high number of ratings does not equal good overall score
Abandoned Pub does deserve all the popularity though, really cool story
tutel rancher has been played on at least 3 streams, surely huge boost to popularity
Actually, I wonder about this game, which has 6 ratings, and it's the 4th on my page


