2024-game-jam

[waxen trail]

Then that's no problem

And thank you for asking!!

[marsh swan]

nintendo has a different opinion on that 👀

[waxen trail]

True but they're not going to win the lawsuit they're just going to keep suing until the other party runs out of money for lawyers iirc

Ngl nintendo kinda scary for that

[marsh swan]

yup

also plug https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213022

[rotund rampart]

what're you lacking to achieve this?

[waxen trail]

There's some extra sauce I want to plan - putting a unique spin on it compared to the Neurojam version and a couple new mechanics, after that mainly time I guess

[placid salmon]

Bro pulled best game first try

[native chasm]

If I may suggest smth, probably changing camila and evil to gain attack only for winning fight would be a good idea for balance

So u can't flee to gain extra

[waxen trail]

It's a good idea

[rotund rampart]

eliv base stats would probably need to be adjusted if that's the change

currently she has really low stats to balance out on having that ability

[waxen trail]

Does it? how come?

But yeah she kind of is a better Camilla rn

[rotund rampart]

cause I like eliv

[waxen trail]

Okay true

[rotund rampart]

[violet surge]

lule alex already beat the time god in 500 different timelines

[waxen trail]

He beat it once thanks to getting Numi last second and then rated the game -1/5 on all five categories

[rotund rampart]

what why

[waxen trail]

No I'm joking lmao you can't rate that low

[rotund rampart]

tbf the current balance makes the time god really easy to beat

[waxen trail]

True that

You just have to scale enough early on

[violet surge]

aren't cerbers and camilas super nice to have?

[waxen trail]

They're the best

[rotund rampart]

I like vedals + rums

[violet surge]

our game has gone through 3 cover changes it's actually unreal

[waxen trail]

Post 'em!!

[violet surge]

here, in order
first was a throw-together with assets from the game (apart from the title itself)
second was one of the story images from in-game with the title slapped on-top
third one was drawn by one of our artists after I bugged them to do it

[waxen trail]

Oh yeah, I love this game number 2 and 3 are the best

It's good to have custom art for this stuff

[violet surge]

yeah I wanted neuro included urgently cause that makes more people click
also color to stand out

[waxen trail]

I heard having the game title text on the cover is not super necessary on itch.io but we still included it lul

[violet surge]

the artist made one without the title as well but it looked nice so we just used it

[waxen trail]

Oooooo

Yeah both look good tbh

I think I'll go sleep for now but have a good one everyone, I'll chat and play more games tomorrow

[rotund rampart]

I messed up on the resolution cause I didn't check

so we just made it square

and ended up having to add black bars on the side

[placid salmon]

Some people say don't judge a book by its cover but players definitely do, amazing cover btw

[violet surge]

thanks, we completely forgot about the cover until after the gamejam

what I learned this time is to always have a decent cover to get people interested

[rotund rampart]

they always do haha

okay bed time, good night y'all

[native chasm]

Yeah as I said today, even 150 atk isn't hard to get

Eliv + 2 hellhounds basically guarantee that

[native chasm]

Ye eliv + 2 cumilq = best combo

Both for regular gameplay and theoretical limit

[native chasm]

Also thx, I just thought of how to balance it for the bot

[violet surge]

is mine one of those?

timetorn

you are spared

[torpid bridge]

No fucking way our game made it out of below 100th in popularity

It's now 88th

[placid salmon]

Guess who is first in popularity now

[misty tree]

oh snap nice

didnt expect pub to get dethroned on popular

[placid salmon]

Thank you! Me neither, I know I'm probably not going to win so making a viral game is already good enough for me, but really just having one person that loves what you make is huge.
I did feel a little bit insecure about it before Vedal played it tho.

[misty tree]

would be hilarious if you won tho

my money is on pub winning the ratings tho, its very well done for all the rating categories

the only negatives at all i could give it was just the drink mixing got just a bit repetitive over time, and the game could have done with a less annoying way to trash the items you dont need that get in your way (i didnt even notice the trash can for a good while)

[carmine hollow]

First 3D jam game, first comment wasn't a bug report, I'd consider this an absolute win
Anxiety halved

[pale iron]

The bug report I got was supposed to be a “feature” in my game

[placid salmon]

I think any game that has more than 20 ratings has a chance to win honestly, if it fits the theme and it's well done. And there's an insane amount of games this time so a lot of hidden gems for sure.

[waxen wasp]

its plugging time
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213324

we're 26th in terms of popularity i think

idk if that even matters for the final score

[placid salmon]

Nope, it doesn't matter, it's just to flex, maybe it can get you some more ratings but that's about it

[waxen wasp]

ok

[fringe star]

Sixth and still holding it
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212401

[winged hull]

Plugs time https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212755

[lavish escarp]

Someone said plugs? https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[potent stirrup]

Anyone already started working on post jam update our team plans on adding a boss

[misty tree]

ive done a fair bit of random stuff

[tough lichen]

it's still really cute!

[tough lichen]

final variant is so badass

[rotund rampart]

Popularity dropped like a billion for my game haha

[civic fractal]

I think in our case we have a bug fixing update. Otherwise not too sure.

[rotund rampart]

https://katsudondx.itch.io/neurodreamsofturtles

[civic fractal]

Already played/rated it

[rotund rampart]

I don’t think you’re allowed to put up updates to fix bugs

[rotund rampart]

Oh gotta plug a little

I’m still studying the popularity

[civic fractal]

We just have it, just not linking it in the page.

[rotund rampart]

So gotta be doing daily number experiments to see its effects on popularity

[rotund rampart]

Ah ok that’s fine

[civic fractal]

Sam made sure of that at least, as they saw that rule

[rotund rampart]

Dropped from 21 -> 39

In popularity

[rotund rampart]

I can see evil in time winning

[earnest wind]

Mine dropped a few in popularity, but its understandable, the ones above are really good

[fringe star]

for me i can see unhando/sea of memories as winners and possibly troubleshooting

[lament ermine]

Mine also dropped a bit in popularity

It's gotta be Pub, right?

Pub's been up there since day 1

[fringe star]

pub would sweep if they got that 2nd ending in time

[lament ermine]

Even without it's a strong contender

Evil in time is super polished

[fringe star]

not anymore, tutel rancher #1 babee

[lament ermine]

However, Evil in time has less number of ratings, probably because of not being playable on browser

[fringe star]

yeah, the visuals is peak, and the story is somber and the gameplay may get a bit repeatative but its still good

evil in time is so good

[rotund rampart]

Yo, share me your analytics page, I think my early inference neglected how major the effects of a new day is for popularity

[lament ermine]

There's so many good games, I don't know what's gonna win

[lament ermine]

Sure, one sec

[rotund rampart]

I think evil in time

[fringe star]

if ya ever need

[rotund rampart]

shrugs

[civic fractal]

HOLY spike

[rotund rampart]

i’m just gonna call voodoo magic and concede, there’s not much difference in our data trend and somehow I dropped 18 ranks in popularity

1 theory is that popularity is incredibly malleable in the first couple hours of a new day, but treasures and neuro64 is still comfortably on top

At some point I definitely can’t consider them outliers and if anyone know who made them, I need their data

[rotund rampart]

That spike was when vedal played haha

I’m gonna call it now, Neuro64 is gonna win the game jam

[fringe star]

yeah

[lament ermine]

I think Vedal playing gave a boost to us too, even tho he didn't play our game

[tough lichen]

I feel it, but had to rush to do all the stuff in time
want to try change stuff like colours or lines in post-jam update, hope it'll help

I really like visuals in your game in this way, it has single style, Sadesc is insane artist ikneel

[lament ermine]

and I wonder why people are downloading the windows version of our game? The browser version is more convenient isn't it?

[rotund rampart]

Yea, day 5 everyone had the same spike

[tough lichen]

no plz I will die

[rotund rampart]

To keep

[rotund rampart]

Do it hahhaa

[lament ermine]

heh, I didn't consider that

[tough lichen]

it's one of the most rated still, I think it's more important

[tough lichen]

PLEASE NO IM BEGGING YOU

[rotund rampart]

Tutel only looks at popularity haha

[placid salmon]

I think people outside of the game jam are playing those games, maybe we as devs can't appreciate them enough as the players do

[tough lichen]

hope chat will make him to check most rated

[rotund rampart]

Oh I am

I do way more promotion for non devs to play cause I want as many fans to play mine as possible

[fringe star]

alot actually

[lament ermine]

they will ask him to play Vedal's Secret

[rotund rampart]

I don’t even care if I don’t win, if tutel plays mine, people will give it more of a chance

[fringe star]

i have 800 views but im pretty sure we only have 270 participants, so im pretty sure a lot outside played our games

[placid salmon]

Alex banned sending those images, it's on the pinned message, but nobody listened

[lament ermine]

oh whoops

[fringe star]

Goodby cruel world

[rotund rampart]

Just coolness discussion

[lament ermine]

wait, that's for coolness/ karma

[rotund rampart]

Not analytics

[lament ermine]

restored

branching paths has got a lot of popularity

deserved

[fringe star]

100%

[rotund rampart]

I dont think we have anyone that’s actually karma farming for views in this jam though

Afaik

[lament ermine]

I think it was because he had 0 coolness

[rotund rampart]

Nono

We had a discussion while he was here

[lament ermine]

yea I know, I was there

I assumed he saw the screenshot of us seeing him have zero coolness

and banned discussions on karma

(even if that's not the case it's funny so I'm going with that explanation)

[rotund rampart]

Next year’s jam I’m gonna prepare 7 different covers and study the effects of covers on clicks

Or if we get an evil jam

[placid salmon]

That's great, but unfortunately even if those games have high popularity their ratings are low, neuro64 and treasures of the sands are ignored by other devs for some reason

[lament ermine]

they don't have appeal, I think

[rotund rampart]

We don’t really have the data to know if they’re even played though, that’s why I need to know their data

[lament ermine]

which is why it's confusing that they're popular in the first place

[rotund rampart]

But they’re not even in the server?

[rotund rampart]

@placid salmon is assuming they’re carried by public players

[lavish escarp]

Do you want us to?

[placid salmon]

Yeah, that's what I think

[lament ermine]

yeah, but why tho

[placid salmon]

I think people enjoy those games for whatever reason

[rotund rampart]

Did you try it?

[lament ermine]

like this one has a banger thumbnail, I feel like it should be more popular

[placid salmon]

Maybe they don't have a lot of people that play them but those that see them do

[lament ermine]

not yet

[placid salmon]

Not yet, I'm playing 4 and 5 rating games

I rated 67 games

[lavish escarp]

Goddamn

I'm still at 35ish iirc

[rotund rampart]

Try it and then tell me if you still think the public people are playing it haha

[south hazel]

If its plugged more here, it could be very well be more popular

[lavish escarp]

Plugging doesn't seem to correlate with popularity

Either that or plugging here doesn't seem to correlate lol

[south hazel]

Hmmmm

[lament ermine]

yeah, I'm not seeing it

[south hazel]

Its only a matter of marketing ig

[lament ermine]

(or hearing it, there's no audio)

gameplay is jank

[lavish escarp]

TBF, 72 hours

[placid salmon]

I have the developer bias, we as developers do not always know what the people want

[lament ermine]

yea, but other submissions are better

[lavish escarp]

That's fair

[dawn breach]

this game is epic

[lament ermine]

it is

[south hazel]

I dont, i look at my unfinished game and i think its shit in this day and age

[rotund rampart]

That’s why I’m not making assumptions and is actively chasing data

The analytics shows public data

[lavish escarp]

Im just vibing now

[placid salmon]

If you asked me personally I wouldn't think this would be popular but maybe you have a thousand ten year old kids that love it

[lament ermine]

1: Low appeal thumbnail, 2: It's download only, 3: Unreal Engine Game, 4: No audio, 5: It seems to be like jump king

how popular??

[lavish escarp]

Wait it's unreal engine?

[lament ermine]

yea

I could hear my pc fans spin up when I launched the game

[lavish escarp]

No wonder it's popular

[placid salmon]

But what you think of your game isn't always what's true, there's always someone out there who will appreciate it for what it is or can be

[rotund rampart]

You can’t have that, cause we have data points for games above these 2 and they must have lower plays/views, which means whatever data they have must fall below your game

So whatever they have, it has to be above evil in time, but below tutel rancher

For it to not be voodoo magic

[lavish escarp]

It probably has more metrics that we can't see, like playtime

[placid salmon]

If they have less views they need less plays to be popular maybe

[lavish escarp]

Well, actually no they can't track playtime

[rotund rampart]

So far my theory is impression proportional to plays/views

[lament ermine]

download-only game, itch can't-

yea

[lavish escarp]

Unless it's in the itch app probably

[rotund rampart]

And it has been holding up for the past 5 days, but then my theory was just proven wrong cause I just dropped 18 ranks in popularity, so I’m looking for data points again haha

To understand the math better for next year and also curiosity

[south hazel]

UE!? 💀

[lavish escarp]

I think the algorithm intentionally tries to drop games that spike in popularity

Well, I don't think they're pretty open about that iirc

[rotund rampart]

Download only game means they have more downloads than Evil in Time, Fragmented, and Evil’s Malice

[south hazel]

Why are we talking ab popularity again?

[lament ermine]

size is 164 mb tho

[rotund rampart]

Cause the math is weird and I want to know why

[south hazel]

Is it so that vedal can play ur games or sum?

[lament ermine]

ah, Evil in Time is bigger

[lavish escarp]

Which is why both our games went up high at the start then immediately start falling off @rotund rampart

It wants to bump rising games

[rotund rampart]

Basically there are consistent outliers on top which I REALLY want to know how the math works to consistently keep them there

[lavish escarp]

It's probably more to do with the delta than total

[rotund rampart]

I never went up, always been in the 20-40 range

[lavish escarp]

I think you were with me at the beginning in the teens range

[placid salmon]

I played a lot of unreal engine games submitted actually, a lot low rated because they are heavy and download only

[lavish escarp]

Unreal has visual scripting after all doesn't it

[rotund rampart]

Yes, but we can also see the delta in the analytics graph, and almost every game shares the same trend

[lament ermine]

maybe itch also uses the rating values which we cannot see?

[lavish escarp]

I doubt that

[rotund rampart]

Yea I agree

So what I want to infer is what it is

Cause whatever it is, it must be a tangible value

If I can’t get my answer, I might have to join a couple more game jams to experiment

[placid salmon]

Btw, here's the best data for popularity, this is now my best performing game of all time.

[lavish escarp]

Maybe in the future you can host a game jam that is purely experimental lol, all the same game but you control the analytics and interactions

People wanna make dem tutels fk

[civic fractal]

6% CTR is crazy

[rotund rampart]

Turtle sex sells HAHA

[lavish escarp]

TBF, it's a hyper viral formula, vedal pulled the single funniest tutel in the game first try and had it top koko

Vedoko*

[rotund rampart]

You have a really high impressions to view conversion, so its still consistent with what I’ve theorized so far

[lavish escarp]

Then streamed it

[rotund rampart]

I’ll look into this

[lavish escarp]

Then cut the stream early

Making it a teaser

[south hazel]

Oh so u made that game pretty wild of u to include ved*lf bro

[lament ermine]

what would itch want for popularity? impressions vs downloads?

[lavish escarp]

20000 people saw v*dolf pipe vedoko

[lament ermine]

[lavish escarp]

Live not including clips

[placid salmon]

I already did that last year with my previous game Detective Neuro, which was also played on stream

[south hazel]

Oh rightt

[lavish escarp]

V*dolf gotta become a mainstay of the jams honestly

[rotund rampart]

Impression : views and plays and I think there’s a second part to it

[placid salmon]

Yeah, that clip was legendary, the meta is to make content games

[misty tree]

oh that words blocked haha

[lavish escarp]

I'll keep that in mind for next year lmfao

[placid salmon]

The easier click bait title you can make with the game the better

[lavish escarp]

Man, yk, I wanna try plasticity

[misty tree]

so what even was the origin of v-dolf? was it a clicker game with turtle variants last year? or was there some other source it came from

[lavish escarp]

Someone tried drawing vedal iirc

[fringe star]

its an anny clip

[misty tree]

oh wait

right

[lavish escarp]

Was it anny drawing vedal or Camila

[misty tree]

xD

[lament ermine]

the modelling app?

[misty tree]

i forgot about that

[fringe star]

she tried to give vedal nose ring

[civic fractal]

Just don't link it here

[lavish escarp]

Yeah

I'm a parametric 3d modeller, not a surface 3d modeller, i have made models in blender but I'm a million times slower than I am in SolidWorks or Catia

[lament ermine]

I've wanted to mess around with it, but I saw it wasn't free and moved on

[lavish escarp]

Modelling stuff in blender feels so scuffed

[lament ermine]

is it?

[lavish escarp]

It's paid yeah

Plasticity

[lament ermine]

no I mean

what's scuffed about it?

[lavish escarp]

Coming from CAD modelling

I mean

Having no defined scale for the most part

Feels very scuffed

[lament ermine]

CAD is built for precision stuff

blender is made for artists

but, you can see the scale

[lavish escarp]

Not to the same degree as like SolidWorks and other cad software when it comes to dimensioning, and yeah I get it it's fine

[lament ermine]

there is a CAD addon for blender

you can try that

[lavish escarp]

But like that precise control is what I'm used to so not having those tools to that depth feels scuffed to me, when I heard plasticity is like parametric but for artists I was like o.o

I'll have to look into that, it's been a while since I've tried blender

[lament ermine]

it's different but not bad imo

I've used fusion, I've used blender

blender is better for my purposes

[lavish escarp]

Oh def not bad, I didn't mean scuffed in like a "this is horrid" kinda way, just like when I use it it's scuffed lol

[lament ermine]

ah

skill issue

[lavish escarp]

Yeah

[lament ermine]

get some practise in, it'll feel natural eventually

[lavish escarp]

I've practiced to some degree, im at a point where I can make what I wanna make but it's a million times slower and less precise than cad

I think if I limit the number of assets well enough, I can make a 3d game for game jam

[lament ermine]

wanna hop in a vc and do some 3d modelling?

I was going to make some blockouts for my game

[lavish escarp]

I'm about 20 minutes from home rn omw

[lament ermine]

alright

I'll go grab lunch

[lavish escarp]

I have to take a shower afterwards too but after that sure

[lament ermine]

@ me later

[lavish escarp]

Vibes

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213125

have a look at this one

very high effort and overlooked

[placid salmon]

It has the download only debuff

[rotund rampart]

and also 500+ mb hahaha

and also burns my pc cause unreal engine

[placid salmon]

And it's also heavily about Neuro and that wouldn't appeal to public players that don't know her

[rotund rampart]

but its definitely one of the better platformers

[rotund rampart]

honestly the only people playing games in the neuro jam knows neuro haha

[lavish escarp]

counterpoint, neuro appeals to public players that dont know her because shes neuro

[civic fractal]

Where is that 6gb download?

[placid salmon]

Maybe, I think some outsiders may have wandered here by the algorithm, but treasures of the sands is definitely being played by outsiders in my opinion

[civic fractal]

I just remember someone saying that it existed this jam.

[rotund rampart]

that makes sense

[rotund rampart]

@south hazel this would make a good video

[south hazel]

Ill play it when i get home

[lavish escarp]

dude idk how the comments have been for you guys

but mine have been like overwhelmingly positive

and im like

fuck yeah

i triggered some dude's nostalgia, unexpected, but welcome

top shit

[rotund rampart]

everyone just says cute and good art

some about cerber and spin

[civic fractal]

I'm surprised how positive ours were

[lavish escarp]

mine have mostly been about the gameplay, and the difficulty being too hard

but in a good way

[civic fractal]

Looking through, it was pretty much every aspect of the game.

[misty tree]

mines generally positive comments on the enemy variety, music, and sadge ending
one comment about the game breaking at the unpacking stage, that i have no clue why that might be

[lavish escarp]

my favourite comment tho

it is, it is pretty funny

i cant tell if i just did a decent job of making the audio not earrape

or if this guy really loves the gunshot and reload sound effect

[civic fractal]

Mine is from a person who will surely chime in

[lavish escarp]

he loves the barrel rolls uwu

[misty tree]

ive already implemented multiple suggestions from my comments lol

"Could use some locking doors mechanic so player wouldn't escape from combat."

"make the dodge into a spin cause she spin a lot"

[rotund rampart]

best audio or riot lets gooo

[lament ermine]

we got several "I want to see more" comments :D

[rotund rampart]

seriously though, can't plug this enough

7 ratings is a sin for that game

guys help boost that a little

[placid salmon]

I rated that game, it was good

[civic fractal]

I guess I should get wine running after I wake up.

I'm heading to sleep tho.

[lavish escarp]

same

[rotund rampart]

I never get those

mine is just too contained and complete

for people to want more

[lavish escarp]

i had one comment from @waxen trail i think who noticed my favourite aspect of the lore and put it in his comment

[rotund rampart]

and people don't really talk about it after either

cause the experience ends when the game ends

[lavish escarp]

i think their game unironically has the best replayability tho

sea of memories, ive mentioned is my favourite but the replayability on just 72 hour game jam game is insane

[civic fractal]

Also had the whole contained thing, execpt the part were we somehow had 3 unused tracks.

[placid salmon]

This is the kind of comments that I like, people talking about their decisions in game. I had comments about asking more but that's a lot of work.
Now that my game was played on stream I probably won't do the sdk from Neuro, I won't add a skip for the mating scene.

[lavish escarp]

lmfao

[civic fractal]

[civic fractal]

Make that 4, I miscounted

[rotund rampart]

yea sea of memories is fun

[civic fractal]

Our composer just didn't stop producing bangers

Now actually heading to sleep

[placid salmon]

Oh no, that was the wrong image, it was this comment.

[rotund rampart]

the summary of all my comments

[lavish escarp]

i forgot who i married nietzsche to

but i named their kid godslayer

godtier was the devil and v*dolf

it want die was camila and vedal

[placid salmon]

Movies usually add a cliffhanger to make people want more, I don't know if that could help you

[rotund rampart]

Did you play mine?

[placid salmon]

Good shipping, they are canonically siblings in my game

Just kidding

[rotund rampart]

ohno

[placid salmon]

I don't think so

[rotund rampart]

play and tell me what you think, its super short

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213059

[placid salmon]

I only play low rated games, sorry

[rotund rampart]

you can just play and don't rate and give your opinion

haha

would be interested to see what you think can be improved

[placid salmon]

Would watching a playthrough work for that?

[rotund rampart]

I have gotten 0 criticisms for improvement so far

[rotund rampart]

ye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvFnGht0xGk&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fitch.io%2Fjam%2Fneuro%2Frate%2F3213059&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE

[placid salmon]

Okay, I'll watch it right now and tell you what I think, I'll try to give feedback to improve, but usually when I play the games I try to break them

[rotund rampart]

Its a short narrative story, there's nothing to break haha

there's some mini games

but I don't think there's any easily triggerable bugs

[placid salmon]

Yeah, that's what I thought, I usually don't give comments when I have nothing new to say that others didn't but I'll focus on the story then

[rotund rampart]

just have a look and tell me your thoughts, I love the comments I'm getting but everyone just says cute and the only idea for improvement atm is make it cuter

[lament ermine]

But it is cute

[weak wolf]

this is so cool

[rotund rampart]

which haha

[rotund rampart]

also hello

[weak wolf]

hi looking around

id love to try your games when i get the chance

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213059
give it a go! its about 15 minutes playtime

[lavish escarp]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

plug

[placid salmon]

-The ui is simple, I guess you could make it more interesting.
-I don't know if it's the video but there was a weird white flickering before the start.
-You should add a settings menu.
-Text is plain, you could add effects like making words wave or different colors to add more emotion.
-You could add small animations like make the character jump when they are surprised.
-More sound effects.
-The doors with the yellow highlight maybe make them do that only when you are close.
-Add a way to hide the text box to make it easier to see the art.
-Add a way to see previous conversations (hard).
-Maybe make the texbox color change depending on the character who is speaking.
-During the cooking mini game you should improve the game feel.
-When the player succeeds at a mini game, it definitely needs a nice sound so they know they are doing well.
-During Cerber mini game let the player know how many answers they are completing and how many are left, they always need to feel like progress is happening.
-I didn't understand why Neuro was asleep, what was the main conflict and what was learned during the adventure?
-Maybe you could have a brief introduction of each character for people that aren't Neuro fans.

The game was very c u t e and well done, good job.

[rotund rampart]

nice thanks for the feedback

[lavish escarp]

@placid salmon mine is not a short narrative story

try to break it

[placid salmon]

You are welcome

[rotund rampart]

He only plays low rated games

[lavish escarp]

damn

[placid salmon]

The comment I made was based on a video

[frail wharf]

when will u play my low rated game

[lavish escarp]

-The ui is simple, I guess you could make it more interesting.
-I don't know if it's the video but there was a weird white flickering before the start.
-You should add a settings menu.
-Text is plain, you could add effects like making words wave or different colors to add more emotion.
-You could add small animations like make the character jump when they are surprised.
-More sound effects.
-The doors with the yellow highlight maybe make them do that only when you are close.
-Add a way to hide the text box to make it easier to see the art.
-Add a way to see previous conversations (hard).
-Maybe make the texbox color change depending on the character who is speaking.
-During the cooking mini game you should improve the game feel.
-When the player succeeds at a mini game, it definitely needs a nice sound so they know they are doing well.
-During Cerber mini game let the player know how many answers they are completing and how many are left, they always need to feel like progress is happening.
-I didn't understand why Neuro was asleep, what was the main conflict and what was learned during the adventure?
-Maybe you could have a brief introduction of each character for people that aren't Neuro fans.

Sincerely
(Your Name)

[placid salmon]

If I don't get to your entry in time before the jam ends I can play it after if you want

[placid salmon]

I'm suing you for plagiarism

[placid salmon]

If your game has 4 or less ratings I rated your game

[lavish escarp]

im considering working on a new project now

something i can take slower

[frail wharf]

ya u rated my game. thank you!

[lavish escarp]

but with a simpler scope

[placid salmon]

I think it's a good idea to make other projects, continuing one from a game jam can be difficult because the foundation is almost always rushed and a lot of times it requires to start from scratch.

[lavish escarp]

the foundation of my game is surprisingly bug free

instead of fixing bugs and adding features in code i mostly just designed the levels around the hyper simple code

[rotund rampart]

My dms are open if you need any advice on structuring your code or planning your project

[placid salmon]

But did you make it scalable? I can't comment too much on your case since I didn't play your game

[frail wharf]

i hate making games i only make foundations. if i teamed up with someone who liked making games we would be unstoppable.

[lavish escarp]

pretty much every object in the game runs on more or less the same base code

reused in different ways in different prefabs

im pretty sure there isnt a game object with a unique script

so it should be pretty scalable

[south hazel]

Video?

[rotund rampart]

Vidya

[placid salmon]

It was yours I think

[south hazel]

Def my hardware doing shit

Dunno if that white flickering exists in most devices

[native chasm]

Just woke up so time to plug
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344

[frail wharf]

actually i am mistaken i believe you have not rated my game i retract my thanks

[lavish escarp]

uh

what

[placid salmon]

Good job then, but code isn't the only problem one can face when scaling up a game jam game, but I wish you good luck in whatever project you decide to work on

[lavish escarp]

the most bodged thing in the game is the scene system

[placid salmon]

What's the name of your game?

[lavish escarp]

but thats fine cuz i plan on remaking that anyway

[frail wharf]

NEURO 2024 SIMULATOR

[placid salmon]

It has 17 ratings, I'm not there yet, not even close

[rotund rampart]

Is this the one where I had to keep spamming space bar to code in py

[frail wharf]

your thanks will be reserved for a later time

[frail wharf]

you can spam any key you wish

[rotund rampart]

OH

Knowing that would’ve made it alot more fun haha

Would love to slam my keyboard

[native chasm]

Sounds like a legitimate way to code

[frail wharf]

that is correct, cursor simply interprets what i intend and fixes it

[placid salmon]

I have to play like 75 games to reach you in 2 days so I don't know if those thanks will ever come but we'll see

[frail wharf]

chop chop

[placid salmon]

I rated 67 games btw

[native chasm]

I rated 42 I think

[rotund rampart]

I rated 63

[native chasm]

Though "empty files" got deleted so only 41

[winter aurora]

I like to rate more game but I had issue while upgrading my computer and am visiting familly rn

[old adder]

have you tried installing an operating system

[winter aurora]

Could be a good Idea

(tbh I fixed it but am in familly meeting rn so still sadge no rating)

[waxen trail]

Yippie glad it was fixed enjoy your family time, we still have 2 days and 8 hours to rate

Maybe more if Alex extends it which is also possible

[winter aurora]

I will

[warm gale]

https://tenor.com/view/erwin-shinzou-wo-sasageyo-horse-gif-8914717

[rotund rampart]

What’s your game

[native chasm]

Meanwhile us getting to level 111 of hypetrain

[waxen wasp]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213324
Daily plug

Idk if this actually helps, but its here

[feral glade]

will take a look later today

[waxen wasp]

[feral glade]

"daily" plug - https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212563, aiming to not be below median

[torpid bridge]

We fell in popularity a bit but we still are in the top 20 most rated games!!!

Play Memory Lanes! https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212555

[rotund rampart]

I’m in like top 40 now haha

[light remnant]

I was on vacation right when the Jam ended I only now have returned, I'll be playing some of the submissions, but if you can, please play The Timeless Artifact! I had a lot of fun making it, and I'm quite proud of myself!
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212060

[winter aurora]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211268

[rotund rampart]

Ayy will do

[quick badger]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212492 daily plug as well

[fringe star]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212401 daily plug

[tacit wasp]

||I'm gonna suppose that when the two windows go off screen forever, it's the end, right?||

[light remnant]

||huh maybe a bug, I did make that ending on a rush, it should have a little animation on the end but that was the end, thanks for playing!!||

[tacit wasp]

You should probably plug more, it's surprising to see such a good idea having only 5 (now 6) ratings

[light remnant]

yeah with the vacation I couldn't plug it that much, I'm now trying to get back to try getting some ratings last minute

also thanks for rating!!

[tacit wasp]

No problem 👍

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213059
about to play yours, here's mine

[fleet goblet]

Can you stop shilling your game please you have like 80 reviews

[signal monolith]

not the chat got reply bro 💀

[lament ermine]

Missing "Your name"

[rotund rampart]

what game is this

[signal monolith]

I don't want to be mean to that person, I'll just say that the game has also a lot of ai generated stuff in it, it makes this reply much more sus

[quick badger]

Is it the one in space with the aliens?

oh no waves wouldn't make sense for this

nevermind

[tacit wasp]

I only played one Tower Defense (it seems to be from a TD game?) but I don't think it's that one

[signal monolith]

another one 💀

[waxen wasp]

"fullscreen" is included in your itchio embed

thats free

you dont need to add it, you just need to enable it

[tacit wasp]

To be fair, some don't know that

[waxen trail]

When I do this it keeps the same resolution and makes the rest of the screen black lmao

So I'll just add the unity template with the fullscreen once I can update my build

[waxen wasp]

thats weird, something with unity?

[waxen trail]

Probably yeah

[waxen wasp]

our screen stuff is completely handled by pygbag's pygame conversion. so idk how it works but i think its just "upscaling"

[tough lichen]

give ur money

[waxen wasp]

what about both

[torpid bridge]

This is why I would actually take the time to write comments because I'm trying to be genuine

[charred hamlet]

ChatGPT responses

[waxen wasp]

igglyn has been responding to all our comments before i had the chance to, so ive just been letting them at it

[naive walrus]

Is that a problem that ChatGPT is a Neuro fan too?

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212060

this one is actually quite fun

the puzzles are well thought out and the style is pretty nice

[signal monolith]

Anybody has any that are more action focused? I dont care exactly what genre, but i would like to play something fast paced

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213125
This one is pretty good

its a 3D platformer, its rough around the edges but it plays well enough

[old adder]

oh shiiiit alex being kinda based in here

[rotund rampart]

ah if I'm bothering you you can tell me y'know, I have no issues not posting my game, sorry if it bothered you

[old adder]

well more so for the pinned comment but sure i dont like seeing the same games over and over again

[rotund rampart]

I do post a bunch of underrated games here from time to time too haha so if you want some recommendations on what to play there's definitely quite a few underrated gems

[light remnant]

Thank you!!

[rotund rampart]

just finished the game haha

[warm gale]

Ha ha. As if i had any

[rotund rampart]

the mechanic was really fun and there's some really creative use of it in making the puzzles

props to the team

[light remnant]

I'm solo lol

[rotund rampart]

oh nice

[light remnant]

but thanks! I really glad you enjoyed the puzzles, I loved making them

[rotund rampart]

I glossed through the credit and saw a few names so I thought it was a team haha

[rotund rampart]

really like the aesthetics you applied to the past and present

[light remnant]

yeah mostly was assets that I got

[light remnant]

I really wanted to make the future stand out, so I added the lighting effects

I only learned this now but if I had the time I would like to use normal maps to make it more dynamic and prettier

[rotund rampart]

yea that was interesting, the visuals were really well done too

[light remnant]

thank you!!

[lethal egret]

There's so many games I have to speed up if i wanna play them all

[earnest wind]

you got 2 more day still

[potent stirrup]

When I heard 'itch app' I thought it was only for mobile or something and now I have learned its so I can play the games safely on my pc. I may be dum.

Until now I'v jus been running the games directly at a risk

[buoyant flower]

For the sandbox you do need to do some stuff manually & enable a checkbox though.

But once set up, it is pretty automatic

[potent stirrup]

this?

[lament ermine]

it's ok, the viruses keep me company

[buoyant flower]

Viruses here open VRChat

[potent stirrup]

Sureely no one in this community will have joined a game jam just to spread malware

[earnest wind]

Anyone downloaded Alex's game and had their VRChat randomly open?

[lethal egret]

I cannot technically rate any game so... i technically have all the time in the universe buuuut... there's too many

[potent stirrup]

anyone know why this might happen in the itch app (Ok i think i found the problem I should run as admin)

[old adder]

ive used https://sandboxie-plus.com/ previously on windows, you could give it a try

(i actually bought it back in the day)

[cerulean jetty]

Remember, the only thing that malware can do on linux, is corrupt the .wine folder.

[hazy hatch]

no you

[fringe star]

skip mine, it takes 2-3 hrs to beat, 1 hr with speedrun strats

[lethal egret]

I'll make sure to at least give it a try, thank you

And i'll make sure to play them all, even after the rating week

[fringe star]

make sure to do mine at the very end, saw a comment saying they were supposed to play multiple games, but got stuck trying to beat my game(i think in a good way) for hours

[lethal egret]

I'm playing them by submision order (From earliest to lastest so... I think Might take me a while to reach yours )

[potent stirrup]

Not them but I couldn't get past the one where you first receive Anny & Camila

[fringe star]

what game are you playing rn?

[quick badger]

doing least rated rn, some hidden gems in there

[potent stirrup]

can ya recommend some?

[quick badger]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3209008 this one is underrated, very nice idle

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213388 fun necromancy shennanigans, bit rough around the edge but overall a fun time imo

[fringe star]

the flashback one or the present one?

[potent stirrup]

The one where theres like 4 different corners, and if you loose Anny or Camila you don't get them in future games

[quick badger]

They are still quite high rated because I only did browser games so far, I'll probably get to downloads only tomorrow

[lethal egret]

I've "only" managed to play 60 games This will take me a while. You all did amazing this game jam

[quick badger]

I'm at 70 and felt like I was farming, 60 is quite high tbf x)

[umbral adder]

You have unlocked new role

[fringe star]

have camila teleport to the top left, hit twice on the hunter, once on the drone, then return to her previous tile
then have anny kill the damaged drone and retreat to somewhere
have vedal kill the hunter in the south,
build 1 farmer, 2 drones and 2 hunters
turn one and you basically have an army + eco ready

infact, believe it or not, there are 4 missions you can beat on turn 0

[fringe star]

wait so if you were playing by order, you might have already played mine

[winter aurora]

Plug of a game I liked playing but is underated bc it require JRE installed https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211627

[cunning inlet]

uhhhhh

[native chasm]

as I've been told, they added 2nd game instead of existing one for some reason

[lethal egret]

If I comented on your submission page, means I played yours

[cunning inlet]

so I should play the V2 one then

[native chasm]

yea ig

[lethal egret]

Underrated? My GOD! This is one of the most polished games i played on the jam. It's really good

[quick badger]

jre?

[winter aurora]

Java runtime environnement (aka java)

[quick badger]

oh ok

[winter aurora]

Yeah and got only 5 rating

That why I plug it here !

[fringe star]

Is your username on itch infernal ekoro?

[lethal egret]

[fringe star]

[lethal egret]

so YOU made that game!
Holy heck, THANK YOU again for making it.
Yeah. I'm reserving yours to complete. It's gonna take me like 10 hours. is THAT crazy.

[fringe star]

There was supposed to be a bossfight at the end, but didn't have enough time so I just gave the enemy at ton of numbers

[lethal egret]

HUUUH??! I Knew the game had potential for expansion!
If you ever keep working on it, i'll wait for that fight.

[fringe star]

Btw might I ask, which mission are you on?

[lethal egret]

I stopped playing after completing evil's flashback mission.

[fringe star]

Ooo boy

Youre gonna enjoy the next few levels

Also little tip, if there's a lava lamp, always spawn units

[lethal egret]

I saw. I know.
I tell you, you cooked super hard on this one.

[fringe star]

Thx, total cooking time is 64hrs

Have fun playing the games, gonna go cook dinner

[molten shadow]

me when

[cunning inlet]

I found another guy who made a rhythm game type thing in their game :D

(this one: https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213363)

unfortunately the timing window feels a bit too strict and forward, and the visual indication isn't the best either, but a great concept, combining regular DDR with Osu

[potent stirrup]

oh yah I just played your rythm portion of your game

turns out I suck at rythm games

60% accuracy

Anny still gave me the key tho

[cunning inlet]

I hope you enjoyed the section nonetheless! I tried my best to make it an enjoyable experience

[potent stirrup]

yah it was pretty fun regardless loved the Neuro and Vedal noises

[cunning inlet]

Yeah getting those voices was quite a thing lmao

ended up having to use a japanese program to generate a chromatic scale

I went full FNF

[signal monolith]

Mine is about 80th, i hope you'll enjoy it, when you get to it

[cunning inlet]

I considered asking Vedal to voice act "A E I O U" for me along with Neuro, but I didn't dare to, and had a feeling he wouldn't do it anyway, so I had to take random short voice examples instead and make them work against all odds

with some Audacity reverb, it actually ended up sounding pretty alright, which I'm glad about

I was so afraid I'd spend so much time, only to create something that makes people's ears bleed lmao

[old adder]

omg that means you will play my game

[lethal egret]

i will

[cunning inlet]

Any bozos here with games that need more ratings?

[light remnant]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212060 I was in vacation and didn't had the time to plug it here, if you could play it, I would be really happy!

[merry escarp]

Amazing

[fringe star]

Thx

[signal monolith]

I havent plugged mine today yet https://jaceideu.itch.io/crazy-robot-body-blast-from-the-past

[cunning inlet]

I found a game that has so much potential but ends up being almost completely empty. If they expand on the game, it could become something very interesting
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213360

[cunning inlet]

alright taking on yours next

[tough lichen]

heck

[signal monolith]

@rotund rampart neuro reviewed your art on stream a second ago

[hasty drift]

was expecting a plug when it showed up on stream

[signal monolith]

pixelart xdx

[hasty drift]

every art is pixel art if you look close enough

[signal monolith]

vedal fucked up the scaling a bit I'm afraid 😦

[hasty drift]

classic vedal

[feral glade]

i've just played https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212060, its a must-play for fans of puzzle games

[cunning inlet]

Are you supposed to be able to double press jump to get extra height and distance? I feel like I'm doing some of your puzzles in unintended ways

[buoyant flower]

Can you please mark your executable as a windows executable? I can't install using the Itch app 😄

[fringe star]

LFGOOOOOO

[royal jewel]

Cool, someone put it on a pixel canvas

[signal monolith]

I know this looks like a bad photoshop, it isnt

my art if it was good

[light remnant]

hum no? how did you do that?? lmao

[light remnant]

it should be fixed now!

[signal monolith]

bro invented new game mechanic

[cunning inlet]

just spam Space, you'll see for yourself

works on both sides

[hazy hatch]

Uno reverse, hack

I'm not bored, i'm a nacho

Any good stuff rolled out of the jam everyone?

[light remnant]

bruh that's why playtest is important lol

[hazy hatch]

I joined the last hours, made a player controller, got some objects in, couldn't be bothered with their functions, and drank beer instead🍺

[light remnant]

I think I know why that happens but still thats so weird

[hazy hatch]

but am down to judge 😈

[cunning inlet]

Here's some:
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212060
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213257
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212532

[hazy hatch]

any of these your entries, otherwise i'll just leave feedback on reddit

[cunning inlet]

the middle one is mine, the other two are games by Eri and Superbot that I found to be fun and interesting

[light remnant]

thank you!

[fringe star]

how bout this? Shameless Plug
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212401

[hazy hatch]

will def try this, love the art style of the characters already, the field itself reminds me of megaman network 😂

[fringe star]

its something like advance wars/wargroove

[winter aurora]

Not mine but liked it and has low rated count ! https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211627

[buoyant flower]

Just completed it. Really fun!

[light remnant]

Thanks for playing it!

[merry lava]

Shameless plug: https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213335.

[tacit wasp]

Well that sucks
And it's very informative as well

Very much a fan of how weird the icon of this game is
It was a hard drive icon, then it became the UMT icon, then the Steam icon and it was the volume mixer icon for a sec
No clue how that even happens

[signal monolith]

function is not supported

isn't that clear for you?

Are you dumb?

[hazy hatch]

btw the jam was only 3 days right?

[hard gyro]

yea

including the bonus hour, in my timezone it was 12/27 @ 11a - 12/30 @ 12p (73 hours)

[hazy hatch]

i clicked your website and the last of my braincells has just received a steroids injection, it is growing from the knowledge I found

[hard gyro]

uwaaaaaa

[fringe star]

what the hell happened?

[hazy hatch]

click the link only if you want to be enlightened

[signal monolith]

the website is... unique

[hard gyro]

oh no im being perceived

[fringe star]

which one chief?

[hard gyro]

https://fenny.moe probably

[fringe star]

cute is justice, yuri is love, and moe will envelop the earth

wise words

[tame rapids]

[fringe star]

LOOOL

[hasty drift]

over 4k total ratings

[lethal egret]

Maybe is the JAVA version? I think it needs java 1.8 or something?

[marsh swan]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213022 daily plug :D

[tacit wasp]

Looks good to me

[royal jewel]

Java games should always try to come with an included JVM or something

[tacit wasp]

People don't really care because Java is very often already installed in one way or another

Never planned to play Minecraft on my laptop though so no Java

[lethal egret]

Then no idea.

[tacit wasp]

I just think my laptop is outdated, I got it around 2018
Even games made in Unreal screams at me that my drivers aren't good

[hazy hatch]

bro how did you pull this off in 3 days, did you skip breathing to save time? o_O

[royal jewel]

Minecraft actually comes with its own Java runtime and is dependent on newer versions of Java than the usual 1.8 everyone installs

All Java applications I make also usually come with a JVM included with a run script

[fringe star]

slept 16 hrs before the jam, woke up 1-2 hrs before the jam, preped everything(open laptop, music, pictures of neuroverse characters), made the game, time spent on game 64hr, slept 4 hrs 2 times. thats about it, thats all i can do as a solo dev

plus its built on a really simple but stupid strong engine

[old adder]

that used to be the case back in like 2010 when everyone played runescape but not anymore :P

[atomic stream]

i mean theres still so many apps that use java

[old adder]

yeah, but they usually ship java

at least i dont know any that dont

[atomic stream]

really?

im pretty sure with minecraft at least you have to install java separately

so i assumed with the others it would be like that too

i usually installed java anyway for minecraft so i didnt check for other java apps if it came with it lol

[old adder]

im like 99% sure minecraft downloads java itself or just comes with it

[atomic stream]

maybe things changed since last time i used windows

[hazy hatch]

mine just worked without issues, installed it last month

windows 10

[hazy hatch]

which engine?

[fringe star]

Scratch

[hazy hatch]

and damn that's impressive lol

never heard of scratch, will definetly give that a look 😁

[fringe star]

dont

its this thing

[hazy hatch]

breh you even made states for when turns are used and so

[fringe star]

I used a modified version called turbowarp

but at its core, its still scratch

[placid salmon]

Least dedicated Neuro enjoyer/scratch gigachad, I only could spend 48 hours.

[hazy hatch]

reminds me of BVS, just looks much more approachable for your every day hobbyist lol

[fringe star]

yeah its extremely simple

[fringe star]

btw may i ask, what stage is the highest that you beat and how long is the total play time?

[undone charm]

Sorry about that! That is a hardware incompatibility error. I created a version of the game without JRE requirement and with lower hardware requirements, but it was created after the game jam so it cannot be used for rating the game. If you're interested, look for "Evil's Gateway" on my website found on my itch.io profile.

[light remnant]

what do you mean you made in scratch?????????????

[fringe star]

look at the image

[light remnant]

thats insane

holy shit how did you managed to do that intire game on scratch??? in 3 days?????

thats really impressive

[fringe star]

alright heres the thing

most of the work went into mechanics

as to how i was able to make so many levels

this thing is a custom block for spawning allies

i basically built a level editor that makes me just copy paste and change cords/direction/units

[hazy hatch]

honestly I only played the tutorial and level 1

[light remnant]

oh wow, thats really cool

[hazy hatch]

but that already had spawn rounds and stuff set up

and different allies to buy and use, each with different attack patterns and so

[fringe star]

hooo boy, your in for a lot if you play to continue

[hazy hatch]

felt like this game could work as like a final fantasy tactics RPG game, but what may be even cooler is if it had puzzle elements implemented too

but you may already have done that 😂

yeah well I was already impressed at that point lol

[fringe star]

funny story, if you play right, you can beat level 1, 2, 3 and 5 in under 1 turn

[hazy hatch]

I got 5 games thrown at me so i'll hop through those quickly too 🙊

[fringe star]

cya ma dude

[hazy hatch]

assuming that has to do with the ranged units?

and lol those could be trophies in a full version 😁

[royal jewel]

Minecraft does come with Java, at least now that it requires version 17 or later, since the version listed on the Java website is still Java 8

[atomic stream]

i see

[hazy hatch]

maybe it would be cool in future levels to need to physically visit that shop with neuro, if you will keep working on this

could add another layer of pathing

[fringe star]

once the jam opens im gonna add savefiles, more units, try to implement pass and play and other stuff

[fringe star]

like high ground?

[hazy hatch]

I don't know high ground, but you got it 😂

I mean that neuro would have to visit the tile lol

[fringe star]

oh

[tame rapids]

it would be cool if you remade it in some other engine like godot or unity

[fringe star]

limiting shop cant be added, if it does players cant go to the frontlines. it would 100% ruin player experience

[fringe star]

i dont have the required skill points for it

dont have enough xp

[tame rapids]

few tutorials on youtube and you will be good to go, i think you will catch on quickly

[fringe star]

https://tenor.com/view/brilliant-i-like-this-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-richard-hammond-gif-18951630

this is my relationship with the scratch engine

[native chasm]

Please add sounds, they add so much to immersion

Even some simple ones from online would be fine

[hazy hatch]

can be variations of it right lol, was just a random idea I had anyway

¯_(ツ)_/¯

coz players would be like... should I go left to the shop... or right for the shorter route... or something 😛

[fringe star]

OH

a custom shop

not the main barracks

[hazy hatch]

yeah well whatever you can think of 😂

maybe it's a robo-suit with nuclear weaponry, heck I dunno

[fringe star]

I already have that covered

[hazy hatch]

just thought of puzzle elements when I played it 😂

and if you can pull this off in 3 days in scratch then i'm sure you can get things done in godot/unity/unreal lol

just another learning curve you gotta hurdle through

[fringe star]

I kindly refuse

[hazy hatch]

😂 I suck at coding so I get that

[fringe star]

nah, i just dont want to switch engines

[native chasm]

Lmao I can feel that
Still using paint as only software to draw

[signal monolith]

@lavish escarp what a reversal, ladies and gentlemen

[lavish escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-computer-twitter-gif-12385391

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[native chasm]

Counterplug! >:D
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344

[signal monolith]

I love when unity games take 100% of my gpu and stop twitch from working

best feature

[fringe star]

30mb + 1 to 2 mb of saves and the permission to add your savefile to your browser(optional) is all i can offer

[misty tree]

working on ellies section of the game now, heres a little teaser OWO

[fringe star]

YOOOO

[signal monolith]

if your game doesn't brick my pc it's bad, and has bad graphics and you are a bad dev

true

[fringe star]

guess im a bad dev

[native chasm]

The one that was "no time"?

[misty tree]

yep

[native chasm]

Nice

[native chasm]

If your game doesn't break my laptop then it's optimized better than paint

[misty tree]

also gotta carry some boxes

[native chasm]

Looks interesting already

[misty tree]

u move slower the more boxes you insist on stacking at once

so reasonable people would just move boxes one at a time c:

[waxen trail]

The more boxes = the merrier

No argument about it

[hazy hatch]

boxception

boxes in boxes on boxes

[unreal plinth]

I've been fixing up bugs and stuff in my jam entry, and it came time to remake the movement.
My camera and player used to jump around by tile, and it felt choppy/jumpy/low-fps, how's this look to you all?
I made it be by pixel instead, and I don't know if I should go for full camera smoothing or not, as that would make pixels stop being aligned :/

(ignoring the sprite freaking out)

[tacit wasp]

What's your entry? I don't think I played it

[signal monolith]

its 10 times better now

honestly

[unreal plinth]

Operation Chicken Nabbing
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3210589

[tacit wasp]

Thanks

Gonna play it now after Forgotten

[unreal plinth]

There's no way I would've been able to do it in time for the jam sadly, I was too rusty with my vector math. Need to get back into messing with Unity in my free time.

[tacit wasp]

I don't think I'll be able to play any game tomorrow so today's the last line for me

[cunning inlet]

did a quick search to see if me or my game have been talked about behind the scenes. I was pleasantly surprised to see it still being positively recommended to others. It's quite a nice feeling ^^

[frail wharf]

create a velocity variable, set the velocity variable each frame based on user inputs, update the position each frame by adding the velocity variable divided by the FPS, and set the sprite orientation based on the velocity

oh, it’s a grid game. is the user interaction meant to feel continuous or turn based?

[unreal plinth]

I'm specifically doing a lot behind the scenes to ensure tile-based movement and keeping the sprite pixels aligned, and some very minor collision avoidance, so I can't jsut do that sadly

It's turn based, but on a timer

The player can act at any time and isn't restricted by the ""turns"" but the environment, guards, and events all happen according to the timer

(You can see the turn timer in the bottom left, events happen when the hand points straight up)

[frail wharf]

this effectively means the player is stunned and cannot send input while moving, right?

[unreal plinth]

You can send inputs while moving, you can cancel your movement towards something for a movement towards something else (Except once you start an action, like going through a door, in that case you're locked into the action)

Also the player can only click on interactable objects, so you can't just click on a random tile to walk there

[frail wharf]

alright. with regard to your camera smoothing issue you can probably still do that while retaining pixel alignment by separating true camera position from rendering camera position and calculating rendering camera position by rounding true camera position to nearest pixel

and you totally smooth the true camera position

[unreal plinth]

It's not so much a camera smoothing issue, the player used to move strictly on the grid, like teleporting from 1 tile to the next, and the camera followed suit
That video is my remade movement system that goes by pixel instead, and I was asking to see if that seemed smooth enough for people, since I don't want to go full camera smoothing if I can avoid it, cause that would break pixel alignment

That true position and rounded pixel position is actually what I do for the player and camera already right now, that's the new system

[frail wharf]

movement is by pixel but the player can only target tiles to move to right

[unreal plinth]

yup

Movement is by pixel, but also by tiles, so you move between tiles pixel by pixel, but you can't be in the middle of 4 tiles ever cause you move along an axis from 1 tile to the next

[frail wharf]

is occupying a position between tiles gameplay relevant or just cosmetic? i.e you’re basically building tile transition animations

[unreal plinth]

Cosmetic

It's only because the teleporting was too jumpy

*teleporting between tiles

[sage sapphire]

I'll leave it at this for now as my future update and continue to play more games from the people in a an hour or so

[frail wharf]

ok, then basically when the player issues a move order id calculate the list of tiles you’re going to visit up front, then explicitly create an animation policy like “how do i move the turtle sprite from where it is currently to tile A in N milliseconds” via manipulating the sprite velocity, then repeat updating position and playing applicable animation until the move orders are exhausted. that would let u replicate the current smoothing but also add more complex things like slowing down or whatever by introducing acceleration

how do you currently handle the case where player moves left but then moves right midway between tiles?

[unreal plinth]

I actually don't plot the path ahead of time, all the room centers have straight lines to each interaction point available, so I just move in the direction of the interaction and have some very simple collision avoidance that checks neighbouring tiles

The sprite will be fixed pretty easily by just checking the direction of movement and applying the correct sprite. Just haven't done so yet cause I've been preoccupied

Like I just need to do (destination - position) and check the sign of X and Y to see if the player is moving a certain direction

[frail wharf]

alright, sounds good. regarding the tile transition animations i would go for discernible “moves” from one tile to the next by slowing down and stopping at each tile. this better communicates the actual gamestate to the player while looking better than teleporty

[unreal plinth]

If there's no real gameplay difference between tile positions, you still think it'd look better to have that sort of easing and slow down to signal to the player the tiles? over this sort of more subtle tile system?

I'll try and check it out

[frail wharf]

if there’s no gameplay difference then its debateable, but there is subtly a difference when the user tries to change direction while mid tile right? i assume they have to finish their next movement

if so indicating the existence of tiles may feel better control-wise than what may feel like arbitrary input lag

also you may want to play with detaching the camera from the sprite and making it pan quickly to the users final destination while the turtle catches up? this would make it easier to click things since they are moving around less often relative to the camera, but you’d have to see how it feels

[signal monolith]

plug incoming

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211560

[light remnant]

counter plug
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212060

[signal monolith]

better counter plug(with embed)
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212060

[light remnant]

thank you I don't know why sometimes it doesn't work

[signal monolith]

you don't have embed perms

you have to type more messages and you'll get them

[light remnant]

ohh

that makes sense

[signal monolith]

I've already played your game btw

[light remnant]

I saw it! thank you!

I still haven't played yours will play soon

[unreal plinth]

Actually they don't now that you mention it, as I've coded it the player should be able to change directions mid tile. I don't know if that actually causes any issues though since I hadn't thought about it, I'll have to test....
Detaching the camera doesn't sound bad honestly, I'll have to try it out and play around, might be good

[signal monolith]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3204684
this is a pretty cool game not many people played

[lusty falcon]

Anyone know in Godot if there's a way to change a bunch of AudioStreamPlayer nodes' volumes all at once?
I was thinking I could call get_child_node and just loop through them, but wanted to check if there's a way to group them or something first, might be more efficient

[signal monolith]

audiobuses ❤️

this shit here

[lusty falcon]

ohhh I see, thank you

Somehow never noticed that button

[cerulean jetty]

You can set each stream to a bus, then you can use those to set up an options menu.

[lavish escarp]

was about to delete this from my desktop, gonna post this here first, this was the layout of the final level in my game

[pale iron]

I am able to play and rate other people's games now

anyone want to recommend me a game?

[lavish escarp]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830 (plug)

[misty tree]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211665 (plug)

[native chasm]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344#post-11741025
(plug but don't really recommend)

[fringe star]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212401 (Plug)

[lament ermine]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211268 if I may

[waxen wasp]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213324
Daily plug

[torpid bridge]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212555

[placid salmon]

I'm scared of Neuro64, it's already 4th in popularity

[fringe star]

Me too

[winged hull]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212755 (morning plug)

[placid salmon]

It would be pretty funny if it took first place, the dev is a streamer and streamed the development

[fringe star]

gluck on them, havent played because not webgl and carpel tunnel damage from 3 days of straight coding

[misty tree]

i guess i gotta actually play the abandoned archive demo now to know what boss mechanics to yoink

[south hazel]

unreal engine
no graphics settings

😭

[winter aurora]

just like my last year team game

[waxen wasp]

making graphics settings would be a nightmare for me.
aint no way im even considering that

maybe a "lighting" toggle if im feeling generous

[warm gale]

Didn't we have settings? Or they were added after the gamejam?

[winter aurora]

Yep we added after the game jam

[warm gale]

RTX on by default

and you can't turn it off

[winter aurora]

sadly

[waxen wasp]

what?

[warm gale]

Yep. Our previous game

haven't won the art category though

what a shame

[waxen wasp]

what happens if a non-RTX pc tries to play??

[warm gale]

just tons of lags

[winter aurora]

your intro/outro was GOATED but we could not follow with the white background
sorry

[warm gale]

Don't be sorry, it's okay

[winter aurora]

looked like that btw (low res bc video)

[warm gale]

i was the one who came up with a 3d shooter concept ->

[winter aurora]

I mean, we have planned to make it a 3d game before the shooter part right ?

[warm gale]

Yeah, but shooter adds some complexity to it

[winter aurora]

true

but with first time in unreal for most of the dev it was not ideal

[warm gale]

Yeah, that was the main issue i suppose

I was lucky to have a developer who knows his tools this year

he showed MyBrazza the ropes

[winter aurora]

yeah
and 2d is a lot easier
Kinda first time I worked with unity this year but I'm really happy with the result & I kinda start to like unity !

also C# look like java enought for me to be efficient. still a lot confused on some part

[warm gale]

Wanna do programming next year, drawing is for losers

[winter aurora]

JOIN US

/j

[warm gale]

can't promise anything yet. Will see on next gamejam

[waxen trail]

But... but I loved your art this year

That being said real chads do music (not me), the music from Troubleshooting and Abandoned Pub lives rent free in my head

Been also blessed these last two gamejam with goated composers on my own team

[warm gale]

I think i reached my peak. Time to learn something new

[fringe star]

i think im gonna keep working on neuro wars, add like 2 more campaign, add more units, more heroes, more enemies, smarter enemies, ai allies, more mission types, better art, give it a story and stuff, i think i'll go with that

[waxen trail]

You know, fair

[waxen trail]

Ooooo AI allies are kinda neat

Same with story, sounds exciting

[warm gale]

Wanna do more for abandoned pub too, but reason says it'll be wiser not to overfocus on one single project that will be forgotten in a month. By reason I mean our lead dev

[waxen trail]

Every gamejam I want to add a cutscene but end up not having the time to

[waxen trail]

They're right honestly. But even if the game itself isn't going to be played in a month, maybe there's mechanics and ideas to take away into future stuff

I am improving a couple of tiny things for our game for the post jam & Neuro SDK version, but I want to turn it into an actual game afterwards which would mean changing a lot of the Neuroverse stuff to be not Neuroverse 😔

Oh yeah, if your game does well this jam then you can expect a spike in plays next jam had a lot of people playing my last year's entry around the time this year's jam started

[warm gale]

We're working on the stuff we initially planned but couldn't add to the game due to the time limit. Also fixing bugs, improving mechanics. We'll add some new stuff though, but not much. I'm reworking the story slightly. Already redrew cocktails to be more distinct.

[waxen trail]

I did struggle with some of the cocktails especailly the second one that Tony orders

Thought the game was bugged because I made what looked like the right cocktail

[warm gale]

Now cocktails are even color-blind friendly

I played the game in gray scale and had no problem

[past meadow]

Why does this game ask for an internet access?
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211675

[waxen wasp]

to brick the chatters ofcourse

[past meadow]

Does it connect to twitch chat API?

[waxen wasp]

[waxen trail]

*To dox Vedal

[tacit wasp]

Maybe it already has the SDK implemented?

Imagine if the game asks Neuro to ban a random person every time you brick a chatter in-game

[waxen trail]

If you get banned in the game you get banned in real life

[tacit wasp]

Neuro sends a drone to your location

[fringe star]

Then the dev gets hit with a ban as one of those random people

[waxen trail]

[lament ermine]

Achievement unlocked: Return to sender

[tacit wasp]

I just realized there's still a day left to the voting phase?
I thought it would end today, that means I can try to play the games I couldn't play and rate them tomorrow, nice

[potent stirrup]

same

I jus checked

for my last year entry

[lament ermine]

we had a spike in views on december 19th for some reason

[fringe star]

HUH

o this is the old jam, nevermind

[lament ermine]

yea lol

[torpid bridge]

Oof guys better vote soon

[fringe star]

its still one day

[cunning inlet]

o you're right, my last year's entry got some extra love as well o:

and this is what this year's submission looks like so far. I wonder what it'll look like after it gets played on stream (which I hope it does)

I think the neurons might really enjoy the duet

[waxen trail]

Man I wish it would get played on stream