2024-game-jam

[fleet goblet]

What did you think of Branching Paths? (Not just the art, in general)

[warm gale]

We could went for rendering each frame of characters animation, so it's the same level as one single background, but i'd like to have at least one more day for it

[rotund rampart]

do it after haha

[fleet goblet]

100% agree! Can't change that unfortunately

[hasty drift]

it is definitely easier to see flaws after the submission time ends

[warm gale]

Moneka's face if i ask her to do it ->

[rotund rampart]

I get that, I have one whole section in my game that I should add after since my team already got the art assets done, but I'm just too lazy

[past meadow]

Great game, very enjoyable, but didn't rate it high, as it din't have much outside of fun story and cute visuals

[native chasm]

I think it should be from 0-10 because giving even 1 for audio to the silent game is just so wrong

[fringe star]

Shameless plug
https://ishinada.itch.io/neuro-wars

[rotund rampart]

ohnyo, my game has less content and only a fun story

[fringe star]

my game a good example of a game with zero for audio score

[rotund rampart]

I gave you 2 audio because the art is so cute I imagined the audio (I gave 1)

[fringe star]

make it 1

drop it to zero if possible

[rotund rampart]

man you guys have such strict rating haha, meanwhile I'm like you get a 5, you get a 4, EVERYONE GETS a 5 and 4

[past meadow]

Which one is it?

[rotund rampart]

electric turtle

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213059

[fleet goblet]

I tend to be very strict with theme cuz I feel like I have seen like 0 games that have actually implemented it

[placid salmon]

I saw Alex play my game, cool gameplay but he didn't 100% I think, and he censored it so he gets gigachad points deducted.

[rotund rampart]

iyo what fits the theme

[buoyant flower]

I do wonder whether itch normalises the rating per person, as people tend to have different baselines.

[hasty drift]

he literally required like 20 gifted subs just to start it

[fleet goblet]

It doesn't, but it's mostly inconsequential in the big scale because there are thousands of reviews

[past meadow]

This theme in particular is just calls to be explored in the narrative. Funnily enough the best theme implementation in gameplay I've seen so far is a VN - Evil in Time

[rotund rampart]

I personally feel like the theme category is more of a yes or no rather than a 1 to 5

[lament ermine]

imo: 1: terrible, 2: mediocre, 3: ok, 4: good, 5: great

[hasty drift]

people will interpret the theme differently and if those interpretations do not align, might give a mediocre or low score

[rotund rampart]

I am cooler than you

[buoyant flower]

Fair. Though who rates what can influence ratings in this way: you can drop in the rankings because someone with a lower baseline rated you.

[hasty drift]

i implemented remnants of the past in two ways, as memories, and as objects

but might not click with people who play

[warm gale]

Turtle rancher 👆

[fleet goblet]

Yeah that's something that I discussed with my team - I personally think that the theme should be implemented on a gameplay mechanic level as opposed to a narrative level, but then they told me to give an example and my response was

[rotund rampart]

I really wish everyone that rated my game actually left a comment, there's probably like 20 people that rated my game that I can't return the favour cause idk who it is

[fringe star]

for me 1: makes the game worse 2: decent 3 : average 4 : Good 5: Well done

[past meadow]

Yeah, we played it yesterday, and in our opinion it fit the theme quite nicely

[rotund rampart]

the theme is like 3 words, its really hard to give a scale of 1-5 to represent 3 words

[lament ermine]

one mechanic we thought of was each time you failed you'd leave behind some stuff for the next run, remnants of the past

[fleet goblet]

Idk I feel like even my own team's interpretation of the theme was lacking. Like it's "remnants of the past" because it's "memories" and is happening in the "future"

[placid salmon]

I think not many people agree that passing genes to your child count as remnants of the past but I do, but I'm biased hehe

[rotund rampart]

hahhaa

[hasty drift]

yea that aligns with what im saying, everyone interprets it differently and the player sometimes dont get it or have their idea of the theme not align

[rotund rampart]

that's why I slap it in the face with dialogue

[warm gale]

It's like the opposite of what we wanted on the previous jam

[hasty drift]

i did it too and it made Alex not want to read the dialogue

[fleet goblet]

That is an incredibile idea I hope you guys went for it

[lament ermine]

we had many mechanics we wanted to go for

[waxen trail]

I rate more like Kats too honestly

[tardy geyser]

there was a game where evil is chasing the ghost remnant iirc

[past meadow]

Exactly the same as our, although our "memories" are the details in the dialogue. But our team rated games assuming interpreting the theme in narrative is a solid 4/5 and any gameplay that compliments the story is an additional point, so both yours and ours would be 5/5 in our eyes

[rotund rampart]

there's one game where each time you die, you get a neuro corpse that you need to use to proceed

[lament ermine]

- Neuro-sama is lost/corrupted early on.
- Vedal somehow manages to survive until the start of the game, where you, Evil are booted up.
- Evil is given the task of being overwatch for the Headquarters, she has to keep the horrors out by using the defenses and devices she has. 
- She sees the base through its many cameras, hears through microphones and has an array of sensor readings.
- All interaction is done through a cli, eg: "Activate Camera Location_A" to see through the camera at location A. (Is there merit to using a GUI instead? Does sticking to pure CLI add anything to the game?)
- All interaction is turn-based. Every action advances the clock by 1 min. (Maybe have some actions that forward time more? Should we be concerned at time on second intervals?)
- If the primary theme is survival, the secondary theme is mystery. Find clues, talk to characters about previous events, and piece together the puzzle. This aspect is optional, and is for true ending / story and lore.
- Example devices: Speaker (Can be used to lure enemies or talk to characters), Drones (mobile units for carrying things), Turrets, Fabricator, Poison gas spreader, Door Locks etc. (Todo: Come up with some interesting devices to add).
- Example sensors: Temperature (Maybe ghosts/certain horrors drop the temps?), Ultrasound (Can detect invisible enemies through ultrasound imaging?), Motion detectors, Geiger counters, Pressure Sensor, etc.
- End condition: Survive until XYZ time, like 6:00 am on Monday. 
- Win condition: 
    - Protect occupants of base. (Normal)
    - Figure out underlying mystery. (Hidden for True Ending)```

[south hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6SyBNORmmk

[waxen trail]

I think this year the theme was especially tough

[hasty drift]

idk lost and found was also rly tough

[nimble dew]

The only thing I could come up with gameplay theme wise was time travel like in Zelda: Oracle of Ages or Skyward Sword (the sand stuff with the robots).

[native chasm]

tbh I don't think telling how we rate cuz then it might kinda influence how other ppl will

[warm gale]

I think you're a bit biased

[past meadow]

[rotund rampart]

its okay, most people here already voted for each others game hahaha

[tame rapids]

i'm about to play Groggs Quest and A Neuro Who Can't Sing, does somebody has any recomendation what to play next?

[lament ermine]

this was where we started from, our game does not look like this

[potent stirrup]

Our team sort of mechanically implemented the theme within the game

(Previously aquired memories that have been 'forgotten' are added back into the memories pool)

The only issue is that it doesn't work and is broken

[tacit wasp]

Yeah, mine-
jk (maybe), but the game Evil In Time is pretty cool

[native chasm]

what would you rate 5 stars for theme?

[hasty drift]

he wouldnt

[south hazel]

@signal monolith idk did i get it?

[native chasm]

I've woted only on 34 games so far xd

[tame rapids]

ok! i will after those two

[placid salmon]

I believe that being strict with the theme when it's something so abstract will only kill creativity

[fringe star]

for me i tried implementing neuro losing her memories, those lost memories becoming playable missions, and what happens in that flashback affect the present missions, aka: if vedal dies in the flashback he wont be seen in the present levels, because neuro remembered that vedal died during that mission.

[hasty drift]

at the end, everyone has their own rating system in their head and it will always be biased

[past meadow]

Yeah, that's the point, but I made an exception to give an example to Alex. Will delete the message now

[waxen trail]

I was super lenient with the theme because I barely saw any games that implemented it well and the theme itself was tough

[potent stirrup]

I rly liked the timetravel mechanics of your game, reminded me of Steins Gate

[tacit wasp]

No wait wait wait I didn't make Evil In Time

[fleet goblet]

We do ratings similarly, but reserve 5/5 for a game that actually implements the theme as a core game mechanic

[rotund rampart]

mine started from a horror game where Neuro had remnant memories of interactions with Vedal where she misinterprets his intentions, which leads into a nightmare fever dream with evil Vedal. It didn't work as well for the theme cause it had alot of inaccuracies of the past, which deviates from it being a remnant, and also everyone in the chat was talking about making some depressing game, so I hard pivoted to something happy after a few hours of planning

[tacit wasp]

The first sentence was more of a plug joke

[nimble dew]

More like weirdly vague with either about fighting something old or finding something old... One sure could make interesting puzzle games with time travel where you change the past to change the future but I'm not a big puzzle fan and went with my already planed idea and just changed the story to "you are totally fighting something old"...

[native chasm]

(order is by submission time, not by how I like these)
Left Behind
What Remains of Neurosama
Sea of Memories
Evil in Time
Evil's Malice
Fragments of Humanity
Echoes of Humanity
A Bandoned Rchive

[hasty drift]

can rename the channel to plug-jam sometimes

[waxen trail]

My original idea was something that would be a lot more thematic but I didn't love it as much as what I switched to

[fleet goblet]

ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO ISSUE A CHANNEL-WIDE BAN for discussions related to coolness or karma.

[waxen trail]

So it was worth to pivot

[fringe star]

Wait really?

[lament ermine]

we were dead set on horror theme even before the game jam began

[fleet goblet]

I will also be taking a look at the games with the most coolness to make sure that they did not abuse the system by voting as many games as possible with random values just to get up in karma

[tardy geyser]

coolness i understand, but karma?

[rotund rampart]

how do you abuse coolness

[hasty drift]

my game aint cool, i am saved

[rotund rampart]

OH

[fringe star]

might i ask the reason for this?

[rotund rampart]

you mean people just randomly voting to be cool

[fringe star]

i dont understand the algo

[native chasm]

oh that's not cool

[past meadow]

Karma is basically coolnes/number of ratings on your game (but with more nerdy equations)

[rotund rampart]

imagine going around voting 1 to all, then commenting and asking for a vote back

[fringe star]

OHHHH

[hasty drift]

[waxen trail]

People in big public jams actually fucking do this

[tame rapids]

you mean people who just rated a lot of games same score just to get a lot of karma/coolness fast?

[tardy geyser]

yeah that's messed up

[lament ermine]

that's dumb af

[tardy geyser]

ok i'll help you enforce this ban

[fleet goblet]

The karma stuff is the biggest piece of shit I've ever heard of, people don't realize how meaningless and inconsequential it is

[tacit wasp]

Huh, I didn't know that could be abused this way, but that makes sense

[fleet goblet]

It's just that you get listed higher on a "to rate" list

[waxen trail]

Also spoiler: It doesn't actually help them actual waste of time

[fleet goblet]

Which doesn't matter to you anyway if you have above the median number of votes

[tame rapids]

i remember that in GMTK game jam mods had to check this for like an hour

[rotund rampart]

which list?

[fleet goblet]

If someone goes ahead and sorts "by karma" which literally no one does

[hasty drift]

[rotund rampart]

oh right, I forgot that list even existed lmao

[fleet goblet]

Biggest waste of time piece of shit system that it all does is encourage people to rate each other's games fraudulently in order to get more karma

[tame rapids]

i sometimes do

[signal monolith]

Yeah, gj, nobody picks the other option, I wonder why

[buoyant flower]

I did not even realise this option existed

[rotund rampart]

tbf, karma is needed to incentivise people to play other games, otherwise a huge part of the participants would just dip after submission

[tardy geyser]

Please still do rate games though. do it genuinely, like how you'd want others to do it for you

[south hazel]

[rotund rampart]

of course haha

you know we good here

[tame rapids]

that's what i'm thinking too

[tacit wasp]

||* I thought Evil would die, not the opposite*||

[hasty drift]

i rated 60 games so far or smth

non browser ones are so tedious though

[native chasm]

I feel like this is a good time for plug so...
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344

[signal monolith]

On itchio app its one button click to install and play

[rotund rampart]

these guys are safe, I promise

[tacit wasp]

I have only rated 20 games, I keep being forced to touch grass this week 😔

[native chasm]

I've only rated 32

[placid salmon]

The highest karma game be like: I'm in danger

[rotund rampart]

man how much did you rate to be so high up

@signal monolith

I think I see you commenting about every game everywhere haha

[native chasm]

wait a sec, I've rated 34, did I not save 2 or smth

[signal monolith]

I've played lots of games but i'm genuine in my scoring and often give feedback in the comments

[fleet goblet]

Highest coolness right now is like 115, he must be really dedicated I guess

[rotund rampart]

I know I know, I seen your comments

[signal monolith]

74

[potent stirrup]

I shoul probably rate more games, rated only 24 but played much more. The problem is I play some games and I don't finish them, (most of the times because skill issue) but then I don't feel qualified to rate until I'v 100% the game

[hasty drift]

others also rate games they do not finish

[past meadow]

Definetely possible, but you should've played games non-stop for all days of the voting period. We played as a team (3-4 people) and got only through 20 in few hours

[warm gale]

There's a lot of very short ones though

[rotund rampart]

I almost exclusively play games of people who left comments and people hanging around here

and yea, alot of super short ones

[rotund rampart]

I have a few that I'm keeping in a queue because it looks time consuming to finish

[placid salmon]

I only play the least rated and a lot of them are either like that or don't work well

[native chasm]

oh wait "Just some empty files" godt disqualified

[tame rapids]

i also play games of active chatters here as well as everyones game that comments under my game

[signal monolith]

peak game got disqualified, smh

[potent stirrup]

smh whoever made this game should rate more, they have like, the lowest Karma

[waxen trail]

Alex was afraid of the competition confirmed

[fringe star]

mines probably one of them for being so long

[rotund rampart]

smh my head

[hasty drift]

I sometimes leave no comment after rating because I just have no good comment coming up in my head and i dont want to comment something like "nice" all the time

[rotund rampart]

your game was like the first few I played

the artstyle and genre captivated me immediately

[south hazel]

ooo whats ur game?

[fringe star]

[rotund rampart]

neuro wars

[native chasm]

for some reason didn't save my rating on Rolling Girl

[waxen trail]

Yeah Lusk's artstyle is peak the animations were so good

[fringe star]

https://ishinada.itch.io/neuro-wars this thing

[rotund rampart]

can you believe he Lusk thought that the art was bad

[tacit wasp]

I'm gonna try playing this one once I'm back at my laptop

[waxen trail]

I'm still shocked by it THIS IS A GAME JAM THE ART IS SUPPOSED TO BE MADE IN LESS THAN 3 DAYS aosjdpaosjdpasojd

[fringe star]

i have the "i can do better blood trait"

[waxen trail]

It's a good trait to have tbh

[fringe star]

wait can i show something?

[lament ermine]

https://voidbois.itch.io/troubleshooting plug while chat is active

[hasty drift]

good thing it doesnt use vim, i would not know how to exit

[fringe star]

pixelate helped a lot

[tame rapids]

the fact that Lusk did it in scratch is still insane to me

[waxen trail]

Same

[rotund rampart]

one of the most popular games in the jam was made on scratch is not on my bingo card haha

[fringe star]

this is what it looks like

[warm gale]

Same. Thinking of it, i'd actually prefer to see "nice" than nothing at all in my comments. So maybe i should have said "nice" to every game i haven't commented

[buoyant flower]

RIP

[hasty drift]

link your game so i can comment "nice"

[lament ermine]

I tried to comment with our team account and itch was like, "Your account sus. No."

[fringe star]

i dont need to animate much

[warm gale]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213265#comments

[fringe star]

i can just move around stuff

[tame rapids]

idk i always comment on aspect that i liked the most

[rotund rampart]

nice

[hasty drift]

oh nvm i commented the game already

[waxen trail]

nice

[lament ermine]

nice

[warm gale]

Thanks for all your "nice" comments 🥹

[fringe star]

i just moved around stuff so i didnt animate much believe it or not

[tacit wasp]

nice

[rotund rampart]

tbf I already commented before haha, probably one of the first comments I think

[warm gale]

Looked pretty damn good in the game though

[hasty drift]

I am biased, i once had a very bad gin tonic since then i think tonic is kinda sus

[fringe star]

pixelate is really useful

[rotund rampart]

I am one of your earliest fan

[molten shadow]

Landed back home from break and sitting in a comically long immigration line plug
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213368

[signal monolith]

this one is super good

[warm gale]

What an old

[fringe star]

but doing something like that on scratch is really hard

[tacit wasp]

So many good games to play still, so little time

[tame rapids]

if someone would be up for playing 3d shooter game, here's mine:
https://grimodello.itch.io/mecha-turtle

[rotund rampart]

hey if it works it works man

[fringe star]

look at this

how did i make this???

[rotund rampart]

I played this!

[native chasm]

true

[tacit wasp]

Dear god

[rotund rampart]

source code leak

[fringe star]

this is only 1 sprite

[native chasm]

holy moly

[rotund rampart]

oh wow

[rotund rampart]

so why scratch anyway

[fringe star]

it goes down farther???

[fringe star]

hehe funny scratch game

[signal monolith]

if the game completely doesn't work, should I rate it or just leave it without rating?

[fringe star]

now im stuck with this skillset

[rotund rampart]

which game

[signal monolith]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213194?before=4#post-11730055

they didnt include .pck file

[rotund rampart]

probably just skip

[signal monolith]

and haven't embeded it

sadge

[fringe star]

wait so its just empty?

[native chasm]

just skip ig

[signal monolith]

it has exe that doesn't work

[fringe star]

skipp

[native chasm]

have u rated mine btw?
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344

[hasty drift]

monkaS virus

[signal monolith]

like 10 years ago

[fringe star]

you can probably skip

[signal monolith]

it's a broken godot game, I'm sure

without pck

so it's almost empty

[hasty drift]

was mostly a joke

[native chasm]

is it about gifting a horse?

[south hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvFnGht0xGk

[rotund rampart]

wooo my game

[rotund rampart]

damn, I should've adjusted the audio a little lower for the first track

it doesn't sound like that when I'm playing

[tame rapids]

Alright, time for Evil in Time and Crazy Robot Body

[rotund rampart]

lets gooo

[signal monolith]

I still haven't played evil in time, gonna try that

[fringe star]

btw

guess what ive been working on

FUNCTIONING SAVE FILES

[lament ermine]

Nice!

[rotund rampart]

evil in time is really good

[signal monolith]

playing rn

[lament ermine]

We implemented save system before realising we didn't need them in webgl

Slight miscalculation

[fringe star]

whats webgl?

[rotund rampart]

browser

[fringe star]

is it different from html?

[lament ermine]

It's what you use for browser graphics

OpenGL -> WebGL

[fringe star]

i dont understand any of this lingo

[lament ermine]

[naive walrus]

Its api for rendering stuff with gpu but within a webpage i think html canvas can render webgl stuff

[buoyant flower]

Key thing, engines like Unity and Godot give output that use these APIs

If they don't work on someone's PC or browser, the game won't work.

[fringe star]

cuz my game is html

[royal jewel]

In a Scratch game? (based on the backread you were the one that made a game in Scratch)

[fringe star]

yes

[royal jewel]

That's actually insane
I don't know if I've ever seen a save system in Scratch

[fringe star]

you dont need to type anything in a "what is your save file"

it just does so automatically

[royal jewel]

That's even more insane

How can Scratch even do that?

[native chasm]

yeah it's one of highest rated by me

[fringe star]

the engine is a lot stronger than people think, depending on the coder, it can run massive games

[royal jewel]

Very interesting

[fringe star]

believe it or not, someone made a 3d game on a 2d engine(scratch)

[tacit wasp]

And Turboswap can help too, right? I remember hearing about this

[royal jewel]

Best I've ever managed is a fairly accurate version of the first room of Undertale

That just about works with scrolling and stuff

[native chasm]

what games would u recommend checking out?

[fringe star]

i got to add something similar to scrolling

[tacit wasp]

You played mine, right? (Double as a shameless plug)
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211795

[native chasm]

haven't yet

[tacit wasp]

Damn that really look impressive

[fringe star]

gonna update immediately once the jam becomes open

[lament ermine]

I remember when vedal was like, I'm actually a scratch developer

He wishes he was you

[fringe star]

WHAT? THE BEST CODER AGAINST ME?

do you want me dead in an alley???

[native chasm]

that's a lot of tabs

[fringe star]

it goes further

[lament ermine]

Oh my god, I just noticed that

[native chasm]

I can relate lol

[lament ermine]

How much ram do you have!?

[fringe star]

i work on laptop

[tacit wasp]

I have so many tabs open, most I've never clicked on for months

[native chasm]

same lol

[rotund rampart]

same

[fringe star]

i dont know how to see ram

tried google

all i found is chrome uses 2k mb and discord 500 mb

[fringe star]

oh that

memory is at 94%

i dont have the best laptop lol, but its a good egg fryer

[rotund rampart]

man I remember back when ther was an actual egg frying app on ipad

[native chasm]

this is so relatable lol

[fringe star]

like look at this

this was made in with the scratch engine

[warm gale]

minecraft parkour

[fringe star]

IKR, how does one do that shit

[lament ermine]

Wizardry

[warm gale]

a lot of maths

[gilded minnow]

Having so much free time they code a 3d game engine inside a 2d game engine

[lament ermine]

Next challenge: 4 dimensions

[fringe star]

....

[fringe star]

about that

[buoyant flower]

There are games that do 4D

[lament ermine]

Heh, now I remember that 4d golf game

[warm gale]

At the end of a day any 3d engine is built upon 2d. Though making your own thing is very admirable

[fringe star]

false alarm, what i remembered was a 3d multiplayer one

[lament ermine]

Still impressive

[fringe star]

agreed

[buoyant flower]

Anyone want to plug their game?

(Which I haven't played yet, preferably? :D)

[native chasm]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344

idk if u played it

[marsh swan]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213022

have u played mine? :D

[south hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvXPNclLWXU

[signal monolith]

I've played evil in time and it's super good, just amazing, how someone managed to make such a good game in a such short amount of time?

[native chasm]

IKR

how many endings did u get?

[marsh swan]

Evil in time is 🔥

[signal monolith]

I can't think of more perfect game for this jam

[native chasm]

one of the best for sure

[signal monolith]

I will definetly play it more in some time, I got couple of bad endings and "anny" ending for now

[frank canopy]

You could try mine if you want, haven't advertised it here yet: https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213263
It's pretty quick, ~5 minutes of gaming

[native chasm]

there are multiple bad endings??

[signal monolith]

they are all the same, but there are lots of ways to get them lol

[fringe star]

https://ishinada.itch.io/neuro-wars this one is about 2hrs

[native chasm]

why does is my game keep falling in rating count rank

[fringe star]

well depending on how you play, i took 2hrs for the 10 mission campaign

[signal monolith]

???? I got stroke reading this

[native chasm]

I was like 91th yesterday with 11 votes, now it's 112th with 12 votes

[native chasm]

my bad, forgot a few words

[rotund rampart]

Sadly it has both the nonwebgl debuff and the vn debuff

[native chasm]

my thoughts were quick but my fingers were quicker

[lament ermine]

average votes are going up

[native chasm]

yeah I see

but I'm not sadly

[fringe star]

whats the difference between vote and rate?

[native chasm]

it's like 2 to 20 mins depending on how much u die (final boss is pretty hard but there are settings to make it easier)

[lament ermine]

is there a vote option?

[native chasm]

just different words for same thing

[signal monolith]

true, it deserves perfect score imo

[native chasm]

itch.io uses both

"rate" and "vote", I mean

[fringe star]

100%

[buoyant flower]

Now I have!

[lament ermine]

I keep hearing the discord ping sound from different sources, games, videos and it's driving me insane

[native chasm]

wouldn't say "perfect" but one of the best for sure

[lament ermine]

am playing it rn

[native chasm]

ohh yea I remember ping sound there

I was so confused by it for a moment

[signal monolith]

this game has an immersive mechanic of waiting 200 seconds

truly peak of gaming

nevermind, it's way longer than 200 seconds

[frank canopy]

Ever played The Longing?

[signal monolith]

and it stops video playing on my second monitor so I wont distract myself

[buoyant flower]

I do not know how, but that is one way to get negative fun.

[signal monolith]

and the windows is fullscreen and needs to be focused

fucking pain

I think I'm too filthy of a casual to beat this game

skill issue

...

I think I need to take a break

lol

[native chasm]

someone pls explain what I have to do in TroubleShooting

[buoyant flower]

Done! Pretty fun, actually!

[native chasm]

oh I had to call anny

[south hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBwAKYlvavU

[native chasm]

have u played mine btw?

[native chasm]

this is the ending screen, right?

[south hazel]

yea

thats literally it lol

[native chasm]

alr

[buoyant flower]

It's a bit frustrating, honestly. 😛

[native chasm]

after u defeated ghost with shield u can get invincibility for like 1s by attacking
though it's not necessary here cuz u can hide in those rooms at left and right

[buoyant flower]

left a comment!

[south hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6SyBNORmmk

this was the hardest game i played so far and got less views than the rest
normally i wouldnt give a fuck about views but i raged at this game to get this 😭

[signal monolith]

my art look like someone blind drew it, so I'm not surprised xdx

(I'm not blind)

[native chasm]

thanks!

[native chasm]

have u played mine?
also yeah that boss was kinda challenging but mostly cuz I was lagging every time nwero v1 shot that circle

[south hazel]

Whats ur game?

[native chasm]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344

[south hazel]

Oh yea i didnt play this yet

[lament ermine]

Evil in time is good, I got three endings so far

[native chasm]

for some reason it wouldn't launch for me

[nimble dew]

It takes a bit to load. Are you sure? What kind of hardware do you have?

Dowloaded it starts instantly for me but the web version has to be downloaded first and it's kinda big.

[native chasm]

downloadable version on windows crashes for me, and web.. oh nvm it loaded

[nimble dew]

That is weird

[native chasm]

lol

[nimble dew]

Huh for me it showed 80 😄

Oh wait that is remaining health, huh. Haven't ever seen that but apparently it can happen

I just checked how much VRAM it needs and it eats around 1.8GB which might be too much on some very weak systems I guess.

[native chasm]

yea I got like 2-10 fps

[tacit wasp]

Oh yeah mine will suffer
But that's kinda what I expect from all 3D gamed

[signal monolith]

It run perfectly for me but i got a good pc

[native chasm]

yea I got a potato laptop that is good for frying eggs but not gaming

[signal monolith]

Eggs good too

[cunning inlet]

yo, how are my jammers doing today?

[misty tree]

good morning

[cunning inlet]

can someone remind be which game was referred to as the "honkai star rail clone"?

[native chasm]

nice ig, about to rate 9th game today

[torpid bridge]

Btw here's the og image of Neuro I drew for Memory Lanes

If you wanna use it for your thumbnail for YouTube

[native chasm]

my karma is remnant of the past

[lament ermine]

1 gb

[placid salmon]

Rookie numbers, a game submitted had 9gb

[native chasm]

which game is that??

[misty tree]

oh hey did the entry count go down by one

or am i remembering wrong

[native chasm]

I think cuz that one "empty files" got disqualified

[tardy geyser]

fyi, no more karma discussions
Check pins for context

[nimble dew]

Mine was originally 800 MB before I let some texture compressor script run over it and then the desktop version was 342 MB unpacked. Zipped it's 214 MB.

[placid salmon]

It's either unearth by cosmic dovah or Only Nightmares Remain by broken toaster, both had to be downloaded outside of itch due to their size

[native chasm]

oh I just wanted to share it cuz 2024 is in the past now

[native chasm]

mine is just 64 mb (24 zip)

[signal monolith]

alex disqualified two projects today, "abandoned archive 2" and "just empty text file"

[misty tree]

ah i see

[native chasm]

what was abandon archive 2 about?

[placid salmon]

Good. Abandoned archive 2 was just Vedal's game.

[misty tree]

i think they literally just submitted the abandoned archive demo files

[signal monolith]

it was literally reupload of vedal's abandoned archive demo

[misty tree]

and they drew a 2 on the cover with paint

[native chasm]

lol

[misty tree]

id accept that as a funny joke where they act like theyre about to submit that, but actually submitting it is just wasting peoples time playing it and not realizing if they dont know about abandoned archive

[signal monolith]

they fooled at least one person in the comments lol

[misty tree]

• its disingenuous since they didnt actually mention anywhere that it was a joke and what that joke was so they kinda passed it off in a way as their own work by omission

[tacit wasp]

The only hint was their answer to the person they fooled

They just said "Clueless" or something like that

[signal monolith]

also I said in the comments it was plagarized and they removed that comment lol

[misty tree]

on a different note, i just realized... is evil's subtitles slightly pink-er?

[buoyant flower]

That is just nasty.

[native chasm]

yea

they got a bit different colors

[signal monolith]

it got like 20 reports so it has been taken care of

[shrewd copper]

I am still stuck at 2 I found

[tacit wasp]

I wanna ask a question for the next update of Stream of Memories:
I'm gonna add the main menu and a collection screen that shows all the memories and a description of them
For now, if you look in the code, they are written from a 3rd person perspective (mine) but maybe it would be better if written from Neuro's perspective?

[tacit wasp]

I still haven't found any except the game over ending

[lament ermine]

||I found the Anny ending and the paranoia ending||

[shrewd copper]

found the first of those, I think I almost got the second one but can t refind the event again

[lament ermine]

||Make Neuro do inconvient things and make Vedal sus||

[shrewd copper]

||is it on the 3 timelines? or one in specific||

[lament ermine]

||I think you have to do all timelines.||

[waxen wasp]

I made all our 3D models myself and ours still ended up being 40mb

Im pretty sure half of that is audio

[tacit wasp]

Yeah, it's often audio or images
My game was 6 Mb without audio, now it's 12 Mb
The Windows version is 17 Mb due to the DLLs

[lament ermine]

My character model is bigger than your whole game

The one in my pfp

[waxen wasp]

Then optimize your character model

[lament ermine]

It's optimised enough, I think 40/50k tris last I checked?

It used to be 250k tris

[violet surge]

[waxen wasp]

This guy right here is the reason we need 16GB VRAM these days

[signal monolith]

I'll stop playing games cause I'll get bonked off for being too cool 😦

[charred hamlet]

Trying to test the SDK and Tony crashes with seg faults, and Randy seems to be using a too out of date version of node for my system

[cunning inlet]

I just saw a game that enlightened a genius idea for a "remnants of the past" themed game that I only now thought of. Would have been a bit out of my area of expertise tho, but I can't stop imagining the absolutely barbaric vision

(it's this game btw)
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212278

[native chasm]

this game is cool, also wow I didn't expect to score that much

[waxen wasp]

our entire game uses less than 2K tris

[tacit wasp]

Oh it's gonna be sad, won't it?

I say this as if a huge part of story-driven game aren't sad in some way

[native chasm]

I feel like almost all games involve some sort of sad past lol

[signal monolith]

I think it's just the nature of this theme

[misty tree]

its almost necessary for it to be sad to fit the theme cuz its not just about the past, its about the remnants of the past
aka most of the past is gone, and little is left of it

[tacit wasp]

Yeah true

[lament ermine]

Normal character models are like 10-30k tris apparently

[waxen wasp]

looks about right

a human character would use more than a vedal

[lament ermine]

My character has wings, with all the feathers being planes which is where a lot of the tris come from

[hasty drift]

peak male living space btw

[waxen wasp]

idk what ved would have in his room, se desk, green bed, and i added the stool cuz our animator asked for it

[winged jay]

banana rum

[lament ermine]

Mini fridge

[waxen wasp]

i was thinking about littering the room with alcohol, but not enough time

[naive walrus]

I think it could be optimised further by remeshing the model and baking details in normal map

[native chasm]

good run ig, that was fun

[lament ermine]

Hmm, true

I want to revisit it anyways, it's been a full year since I made it

[signal monolith]

mine has similar amount

[lament ermine]

Someone got a score so high that there was an integer overflow error

[cunning inlet]

I now have a vision for a game where:

• Neuro & family having fun
• Neuro goes to sleep
• Neuro wakes up 10 years in the future
• Finds out Earth has become hell
• Humans left via rockets to look for a new planet
• Neuro was left behind
• Neuro looks around at the remnants of the past
• Conveniently, there is one final rocket nearby that went unused
• Neuro uses that rocket to catch up to the rocket Vedal left on
• Enqueue epic rocket launch scene with Neuro saying "I will never leave you behind" etc
• Roll credits
• After credits, you see Neuro wake up in a rocket
• "Where is Vedal?"
• They lead her to an altar with grandpa Vedal image
• It's been 90 years
• "Unfortunately Neuro, humans are mortal. You were too late to see him again."
• Fade to black as tears form in Neuro's eyes
• The End

This would be such a diabolical idea

[feral glade]

@signal monolith i played your game, best one for me so far, feels so fluid, and got me imagining hotline miami in this 3d style, would be so fun.

[native chasm]

I saw it, how tf is that even possible lol

[lament ermine]

Keep stacking those multipliers and score increases

[tacit wasp]

This reminds me of Keepsakes

[native chasm]

played it today, yeah kinda similar

[tacit wasp]

||Neuro broke for years and only wakes up when Vedal is very old||

[native chasm]

dang, that ending would be insane

players are happy but you say "Nuh uh!" and make everyone cry

[signal monolith]

thx, glad you liked it

[cunning inlet]

exactly!

[native chasm]

you're eliv

[naive walrus]

Also wanted to ask can you recommend any resource for learning modelling/blender? Wanted to learn it for some time but don’t really know where to start.

[proud smelt]

Ahh how long we have to rate games?

[tacit wasp]

I kinda started to have an idea for a Neuro game too where in the future Evil escapes a refugee camp for nice AIs to find Neuro and Vedal
Vedal would still be alive, but there would be a bait like "England doesn't exist anymore" which makes Evil thinks Vedal is dead

[lament ermine]

Hmm, depends, what do you want to use it for?

Let me look at my yt subscriptions

[signal monolith]

When I wanted to do some very simple modeling for another game this one helped me a lot because it shows all the basics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbCW0Cs7aI8

[charred hamlet]

This "bad ending" was actually one we originally were looking to do, but we decided to switch it out in the end. Thought it'd be too much

[naive walrus]

Probably for making props and characters for games

[naive walrus]

Thanks for recommendation

[waxen wasp]

tutorials help at the beginning but blender is something you get good with by experience, id say just try making different things. if you're stuck google things.

[tacit wasp]

I'm gonna be honest, the current ending only is slightly better

[lament ermine]

Grant Abbit does good tutorials

Royal Skies is for bite sized tuts

There's a lot of things you can learn in blender, start by focusing on aspect

[buoyant flower]

Also, blender is a ridiculous piece of software if you think about it. It can do 3D Modelling, Sculpting, Painting, Video Compositing, Procedural Construction, ...

[lament ermine]

Like modelling first, UVs next, materials and shaders after, maybe sculpting, topology, etc

You don't need to know all of the tools tho

[buoyant flower]

Learn what you need, not just the software itself.

[lament ermine]

Just learn what you need

[buoyant flower]

😄

[naive walrus]

I think it like that with everything you need tutorials to get you started or to look up new stuff while you get more proficient with the tools until you can do mostly everything from memory

[lament ermine]

It helps if you just want to make cool art

90 percent of why I was able to learn blender

[native chasm]

why are there so many good games here

[waxen wasp]

because the neuro community is based

[native chasm]

true ig

[waxen trail]

Yoooo that's kinda fire
Also reminds me a bit of Soma I guess
You could also add something about how lightspeed affects time, there was a twist in a book I read called "The forever war" where ||someone waited for the main character by jumping around at light speed so they come back every time at a year interval or so||

[cunning inlet]

yeah it's a bit inspired by Soma, but with a diabolical twist at the end that leaves everyone with their mouths gaping open at the end, wondering whether the correct response is "thank you" or "fuck you" for the experience xddd

it would certainly go down in history

[waxen trail]

I was also thinking about turning the Koko minecraft stream into a story, like

• A future monkey that has achieved sentience long after humanity has perished awakens a sleeping AI (Koko finds Neuro)
  (other stuff happens)
• Final showdown where Neuro is fighting Vedal on top of Vedal's tower

I forgor about the events in that stream but you could totally turn it into a sci fi epic

[waxen trail]

Idea for next year

[winged jay]

WHEN I GET YOU

[cunning inlet]

I just love the idea of getting everyone's hopes up to the max, and then crushing them in one fell swoop, and elaborating no further

[waxen trail]

I do love tragedies honestly

Maybe a silver lining can be that Neuro finds Vedal's grandson and they have a lot of adventures in the sequel

[tacit wasp]

I love and hate those kinds of games
A fangame I made is exactly like that

[cunning inlet]

Games like those would definitely be remembered by the community. They wouldn't be remembered fondly, but they would most certainly be remembered xd

[south hazel]

I wanna make a neuro rpg game that takes 100 hours to complete sometimes

[mighty solstice]

Yo

I need 2 unity and 2 godot coder

[buoyant flower]

RPGs are an awful idea for long playtimes though. so good luck!

[native chasm]

I kinda thought recently, "what would happen to Neuro if Vedal got in some sort of accident"

[south hazel]

:(( harsh reality hits

Well whatever

Gonna make it anyway

[royal jewel]

If you need help with something, I guess feel free to ask

[native chasm]

I mean, even if there would be other ppl to launch and support her, a huge chunk of memories is with Vedal, and I don't think she really understand stuff like life and death yet

[buoyant flower]

Generally, focus on making it good rather than long is the best way to go. And if it ends up being long - take your time, it ain't a game jam!

[waxen trail]

Yeah it's fucked up how brittle things like that are. Like, many things in the world hinge on a few people, and if something happens these things might stop. It's terrifying honestly

[native chasm]

have anyone made a game about that this gamejam?

[waxen trail]

We're young (at least younger than 50 ) so we often don't think about that but it's good to have safeguards and backup plans in case the worst happens

[rotund rampart]

What up

[south hazel]

I was planning on a puzzle type rpg where random boxes start to move randomly....

Actually its hard to explain, it will explain onwards so ill make a demo instead

[waxen trail]

Idk, I only rated 35 games so far

[native chasm]

Death can take even young ones. Technoblade was only 23 for example.

[void parcel]

just put the last quest behind a level 100 barrier and make the grind exponential

oh replied to wrong message whoops

[signal monolith]

there was one, "filtered"

[tacit wasp]

Damn, I didn't really know his age

[native chasm]

I've rated 41 and I don't think I saw anything exactly like that, though some games had similar ideas

[signal monolith]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3210674

[waxen trail]

You're right, but because we're generally young it's not something that's on our mind, so we don't think about it or plan about it

[signal monolith]

it's about rejecting submissions

[native chasm]

I thought he was like 22 or 21, but decided to check and he was 23

[waxen trail]

Played this one thought it was a neat idea

[rotund rampart]

I think I played at least 2 games where neuro is in this game jam

[native chasm]

true ig

[native chasm]

wdym "where neuro is"

[native chasm]

haven't yet played it

[rotund rampart]

Like “travel into the past” when this game jam happened or “wait isn’t this one of the themes of a neuro game jam”

Not sure if you meant that or “this game is about making games”

[native chasm]

oh I remember 2nd from that lava lamp game

not really what I was talking about tho

[marsh swan]

there is definetly a couple of games that mentioned game jam

but im pretty sure that Rate Filtered is the only one that focuses on it

[native chasm]

" that" is the idea we were discussing, not "this gamejam"

[marsh swan]

oh ok sorry

xD

[native chasm]

np

[signal monolith]

anybody has a game to plug i haven't played yet?

[native chasm]

idk

unrelated but does anyone know if I have to use ID of emoji if I want my discord bot to add it into the message?

[buoyant flower]

Played https://8uurg.itch.io/neuros-time-travel-conundrum yet?

[rotund rampart]

I’m playing this in abit as well

[signal monolith]

haven't played it yet, thx

[buoyant flower]

I am working on a post jam version too, so please give feedback / desired things. Control improvements have already been implemented 😄

[signal monolith]

I've written you a comment, I forgor to mention that movement speed is a bit slow, In baba is you for example: you can move as fast as you click.

[buoyant flower]

Yeah, the post jam build has increased speed.

Something I did not find too bad during my own playtesting.

But uh. approximately everyone that has commented has noted it

[signal monolith]

check my comment for the rest of my opinion

[tacit wasp]

Gonna play this once I'm home

[nimble dew]

Oh someone actually kinda made a timetravel game. Nice.
How am I supposed to solve this? I eventually found out you can just go above the spikes but that doesn't seem intended?

[buoyant flower]

That is not intended no.

That goes on the list of bugs to fix 😄

Go stand on the button before time-travelling.

[nimble dew]

How do In stay on buttons for multiple turns?

[buoyant flower]

X or . should allow you to wait

[nimble dew]

Oh, yeah that worked.

[buoyant flower]

Will add that as a tutorail prompt to that level.

[nimble dew]

Maybe I missed a text about X

[buoyant flower]

It was on the first level. But it went away once you used WASD, so it will be skipped almost immediately for most people...

[nimble dew]

Ah, yeah 😄

[signal monolith]

@lavish escarp we have the same amount of ratings? How are you keeping getting away with that?

[rotund rampart]

I have double you guys rating and am still below haha

oh what I got up quite abit in popularity huh

[signal monolith]

maybe it's ratio of rating compared to popularity or smth

itch works in mysterious ways

[rotund rampart]

its proportion of impressions to number of plays/views

the ratings and ctr don't actually matter in popularity

[native chasm]

u r above vadul btw

[rotund rampart]

I know

he keeps catching up randomly with spikes

[nimble dew]

Great game. I think this is actually my favorite so far.
The back button doesn't work

[rotund rampart]

like I can be 10 above and suddenly he overtakes me and stops growing for awhile

[native chasm]

btw, how will winners be chosen and what do they get?

lava lamps iirc?

[signal monolith]

idk, and idk, hope that helps

[native chasm]

[naive walrus]

maybe some top by overall score but also could include like the best ones from individual categories but only vedal will know for sure

[rotund rampart]

the greatest prize of all

honour

[rotund rampart]

pretty sure alex will know too(?)

[signal monolith]

vedal or alex playing my game would be a price for me

[rotund rampart]

haven't seen you around much, do you have a game for me to play? 😄

[native chasm]

neuro roasting the game is the best thing that can happen lol

[rotund rampart]

our games are so low in popularity, they're not playing our game

[naive walrus]

im one of the devs of troubleshooting

[rotund rampart]

oh ok, already played haha, great job

[native chasm]

u r only 26th

[rotund rampart]

I'm 22 now, the analytics is slow, but I can imagine tutel playing probably 5 more games at most before rating is over

[native chasm]

well I'm 56th so the chance is like 0% for me

[fringe star]

i cant believe im still going strong on 6th

[signal monolith]

Don't argue about a popularity spots, that's not cool 😦

I only argue with mikaturtle cause we are right next to each other

I don't want for people to be mean to each other

[rotund rampart]

nobody's mean here don't worry haha

we're all part of the same plug gang

[rotund rampart]

you deserve it

[fringe star]

i just made a generic tactics game tho?

[signal monolith]

and I shitted out some black and white garbage and I'm sub 50, it doesn't mean anything

[rotund rampart]

it works seamlessly compared to most of the turn based games, plays 100% on the mobile and have very attractive art

[rotund rampart]

your game kicksass

[fringe star]

WAIT

ITS PLAYABLE ON MOBILE????

[rotund rampart]

yes

[signal monolith]

my game came from my ass

[fringe star]

SINCE WHEN??

[rotund rampart]

haha

[rotund rampart]

since always?

[fringe star]

its built for pc and pc only

[rotund rampart]

doesn't matter, the mouse input and touch input shares the same event calls in most modern engines

[fringe star]

did i unintentionally made it compatible with mobile??

[naive walrus]

you can play it in browser on the phone

[fringe star]

oh

nvm

[rotund rampart]

also your game has alot of stages

so it keeps people's attention as long as they like the genre

[rotund rampart]

your game is good because its one of the fastest paced game in the jam, it has good controls, good visuals and have alot of actions to be performed per minute, it scratches an itch that most the top position games in this jam don't

[golden fjord]

that one was so cool!!! Really clean.

[rotund rampart]

right??

[placid salmon]

Yo, has anyone mentioned that dinosaurs could be remnants of the past?

[rotund rampart]

yea, lots of fossil digging games

[placid salmon]

Oh, I haven't seen them, good to know

[naive walrus]

Thanks, its still a shame that most of our gameplay ideas got axed due to time. We could really get the feel of it and polish it in time.

[rotund rampart]

only thing stopping me from replaying it is the skip intro button

[golden fjord]

Relateable

having to cut or condense so much

[rotund rampart]

what'd you make? plug

[golden fjord]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213368#post-11731970

I am a contributor

[native chasm]

I take that back, 150 is actually not that hard
U just have to risk a bit and not be too unlucky

[naive walrus]

same i was testing some stuff after the intro and over all game and i got sick of it too, but the skip button was like the last change and i couldnt build new version fast enough

[native chasm]

huh

[golden fjord]

wat

[golden fjord]

Writer & Project Coordinator for Company Property

[naive walrus]

there check marks next to files to set a compatible system, without it itch app cant download games

[native chasm]

can't download it with itch.io app

[golden fjord]

oh. It's a .exe.

No time to figure out making it in browser unfortunately

[golden fjord]

Thanks for explaining, I've not used itch.io much and def not on an app

[native chasm]

oh u mean like that thing

[naive walrus]

yea

[native chasm]

Aren't all of the downloadable games .exe?

[golden fjord]

no wait it was a zip file

I forgot

[native chasm]

for windows at least

[golden fjord]

idky it isn't showing up for you

[naive walrus]

have you set the checkmark like above?

[native chasm]

check if u have this marked for windows

like my game is zip with exe inside and I can download it without a problem

[signal monolith]

I've already played it and liked it super much

[golden fjord]

oh I'm glad! Thanks for playing!

[native chasm]

so is it marked as executable for windows?

[golden fjord]

It's a zip file, but in it is an executable for windows, yes

[native chasm]

.7z tho, not .zip

[golden fjord]

oh.

[native chasm]

and idk it doesn't show up

[rotund rampart]

hmm I changed the tagline but the embed still hsan't change, oh well

[rotund rampart]

pretty sure you can unzip it with winrar

[native chasm]

to unzip I need to download it and itchio aoo doesn't let me

[rotund rampart]

dmed you the game

[native chasm]

I'm pretty sure the problem is that file isn't marked as it is for windows
I just unmarked my game and got the same problem there, but marking it back fixed it

[golden fjord]

oh. I'll see what I can do with that then, thanks!

[native chasm]

just go to "Edit game" and scroll down a bit to mark the file as "Executable" for Windows

or whoever in your team can do that

[golden fjord]

OOOH it's there, okay thank a bucnh!!!

[native chasm]

yeah np

[golden fjord]

it's marked as windows now!

[native chasm]

the problem isn't that I can't get the the game but that I can't get it with itch.io sandbox, xd

[native chasm]

nice, I'll play it a bit later then

[bold wolf]

Uploaded the music I wrote for Keepsakes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qYxj4nJfQM

[fringe star]

WOAH

[signal monolith]

If you aren't watching the stream rn

you should

btw

[fringe star]

what happened chief?

what

[signal monolith]

dragon wiped out the party

[fringe star]

OH

[signal monolith]

neuro survived the longest

[tacit wasp]

Oh they all died already?

[signal monolith]

except vedal, basically everyone except of vedal went yhru the portal

[fringe star]

oh darn they lost everythign

[signal monolith]

and dragon wiped them out with a fireball

thingy

purple shit

They didnt bridge in time from the spawn platform

and he fireballed them

[fringe star]

oh thats why

[signal monolith]

+vedal wasnt there

[fringe star]

they got spawncamped

[rotund rampart]

playing your game and dropped a review

[signal monolith]

nah, they had 5 hours to bridge

[fringe star]

wait theyve been fighting for 5 hrs???

[signal monolith]

but everyone except of vedal is super incompetent at fighting the dragon

[waxen wasp]

no, maybe 10min

[signal monolith]

it was exagerration, they had ample time to bridge

but they didnt

[waxen wasp]

they just didnt make a roof and got blasted

[signal monolith]

so dragon killed them at the spawn platform

this party is so cooked man

[tacit wasp]

[signal monolith]

poor vedal

[rotund rampart]

pretty sure you already played and rated mine

[fringe star]

double kill

[signal monolith]

vedal feels like kazuma rn

[fringe star]

yeah

[signal monolith]

after vedal neuro is the most competent tbh

[fringe star]

...

[waxen wasp]

dealing with an incompetant teammate is such a kazuma thing

[signal monolith]

she survibed the longest xd

[fringe star]

i want to make an rpg with kazuma vedal

[rotund rampart]

never mind you haven't haha

5 more games left on my comments to play

getting sleepy but the amount of games I need to respond to in my comments keeps stacking up

[rotund rampart]

I mean so many games already dressed him up like kazuma

[fringe star]

vedal?

[rotund rampart]

Most games where he’s not a turtle puts him in a green hoodie

Kazuma wears a green jumpsuit

[fringe star]

oh yeah makes sense

[tame rapids]

that's why i gave him mech suit 😎

[fringe star]

YOOOO

[native chasm]

what game is that?

thx

btw what game can y'all recommend that I might've not played yet?

[rotund rampart]

do you want a longer one or a shorter one

[native chasm]

either works ig

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213257

this is a must play

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211319
this is short and sweet

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213193
this is the funniest shit ever

[violet surge]

vedal playthrough when

[native chasm]

played it already

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213213

[native chasm]

like highest rating I gave anything (tied with evil in time)

[rotund rampart]

this one is because @violet surge showed up

[violet surge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1321205693855957086/nod.gif

[rotund rampart]

but also its quite well done

[native chasm]

btw can someone explin why there are two games "Back to the Neuro" from UmbraSlay?

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211717
this one is pretty fun too

[signal monolith]

alex talked about this, probably just an accident, somone updated the game and submited it a second time instead of replacing the file

or something like that

[native chasm]

ohhh, got it

[rotund rampart]

mostly picking the ones that are not as talked about or should be talked about more

[violet surge]

[native chasm]

so do I play v2 then

[signal monolith]

probably

[native chasm]

alr

[signal monolith]

seems like the updated version

you can check both if you want

im getting borderline shizophernic from the amount of neuro games I've played

[rotund rampart]

oh I've never seen anyone talk about this one, its not as polish as can be but its quite a fun TD
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212997

there's a huge bug where you can't click on some cards (they have a fixed version but it shouldn't be used to judge)

but even with the bug its fun

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211421
this one has pretty interesting puzzles and simple controls

[native chasm]

what would u say are underrated games that I should check?

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212999
this one has the perfect nomnomnom sound of neuro eating a cookie

[rotund rampart]

everything I'm posting

[native chasm]

I think that's enough for tomorrow

[rotund rampart]

oh and the most underrated game

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213059

[native chasm]

lol

played it already tho

[rotund rampart]

I know, I'm just half-kidding and self plugging HAHA

[native chasm]

yea I get that xd

[fringe star]

how about this

https://billle0101.itch.io/neuro-cookies

try spining your mouse around neuro while she attacks

this game has funny knockback, thats about it

it has fun collision

[tacit wasp]

[fringe star]

or maybe this https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212620

[rotund rampart]

drag that cookie

do it

[tacit wasp]

I did it 5 times already

[native chasm]

one of first I played, didn't really enjoy it

[fringe star]

okies

[rotund rampart]

that nomnomnom is so satisfying

[fringe star]

im monkey brain, i see knockback 100 i laugh

[rotund rampart]

felt like a baseball bat haha

[fringe star]

its stupid

i like it

[tacit wasp]

I love how every single comment mentions how they spend way too much time feeding cookies to Neuro

[native chasm]

how is Neurosu one of the top popular while having just 4 rates??

[fringe star]

what now?

you sure its not 40?

[rotund rampart]

popularity is based on impression:play/view ratio

a game with low impressions but good view/play ratio will get much higher in popularity

[fringe star]

top 4 has 70+(pub) 40(rancher) 50(vedal's game) 40(dressup)

[rotund rampart]

EVIL GAME JAM PLEASE

[rotund rampart]

yes

[native chasm]

oh wait it's lower that I thought

still higher than Evil's Malice tho

[rotund rampart]

but top 10 you have 2 games with no much

[tacit wasp]

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213278

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213334

10 rates and 6 rates respectively

[native chasm]

great idea actually

[rotund rampart]

in the top 10

[rotund rampart]

Layna asked for an Evil Subathon

I want that

[tacit wasp]

And Vedal did not say no

[rotund rampart]

he was being sarcastic as heck though haha

[native chasm]

I wonder what the theme would be tho

[tacit wasp]

Not yes either but hey, that's a win

[rotund rampart]

knowing evil, it's probably gonna be something wholesome or incredibly middle school syndrome

[fringe star]

evil is cute

[tacit wasp]

I'll take anything for Evil's birthday rather than another version of the first stream to induce trauma in an AI

[fringe star]

i watched her get really into bedtime stories

[tacit wasp]

She was so cute!

[native chasm]

I think next gamejam I might need a team, unless it will be like a week long

[rotund rampart]

if eliv game jam, I will form the perfect team at all cost

[civic fractal]

Best of luck

[rotund rampart]

if it happens haha

[fringe star]

gluck, i'll make something simpler next time

[tacit wasp]

I think I'm gonna try to have a bigger team too
I mostly went solo (and then managed to get help from an artist around the second day thankfully) this year because it was my first ever gamejam on my weak laptop, I didn't know if I could make it so I didn't want to make a team just to cancel everything
Now I'm sure I can make a game in 3 days so next time I'll be ready

[native chasm]

I'd like to make something simpler next time but I feel that my game is already as simple as it can possibly be lmao

[civic fractal]

If there is an eliv jam then I think I'm still sticking with Sam. Wanting to improve that engine after the rating period ends.

[slate mist]

Good morning is neuro or evil played jam game?

[native chasm]

nope

[rotund rampart]

noh

[slate mist]

I'm gonna sleep again seeya

[native chasm]

nuero played minecraft and eliv now playing buckshot

[tacit wasp]

My game was very simple and gameplay-focused this time so I want to make something more story-driven next time hopefully

[native chasm]

have a nice sleep then

[rotund rampart]

I'm the opposite

[native chasm]

can u remind me which was yours?

[fringe star]

i dont know how to describe my game

[rotund rampart]

Neuro Wars

[tacit wasp]

Plug moment
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211795

[civic fractal]

I think we hit a decent balance, at the cost of the sanity of our artist

[native chasm]

I was going to make a story-driven game but I didn't have much time so I just displayed some text with plot in the end of the game lmao

[native chasm]

ohh that one, played it today

[waxen wasp]

plug time?
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213324

[rotund rampart]

where embed

[native chasm]

which one was yours?

[rotund rampart]

neuro can't sing

the one with 10/5 audio

[native chasm]

this is Scratch?!

[waxen wasp]

i feel like we plugged a ton already, dont want to take up too much space

[fringe star]

Plug time
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212401

[tacit wasp]

I wanted to make a simple gameloop-driven game just to maximize my chances of finishing the game

[fringe star]

LOOL

[native chasm]

ohh yea it was nice

[waxen wasp]

i wish i could upload the improved version already.

i understand its for the integrity of the ratings, but i value the player experience

[native chasm]

yea I kinda removed first story idea cuz I had no time

[rotund rampart]

its cool, the game jam chat is a tight community

[civic fractal]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213324
A neuro who can't sing

[rotund rampart]

I feel like we're just shitposting here most the time

[native chasm]

I just couldn't come up with way to show that story (which was way darker btw) so I've decided to just make character to fight ghosts of his dead comrades instead

[waxen wasp]

i mean, what else is there to talk about besides rating games? we cant play games 24/7

[native chasm]

I wanted to make cutscenes that would explain this but didn't have enought time to make even a single one so I just explained it with text in the ending

[rotund rampart]

yea so don't worry and just plug away, this is a safe zone for pluggers like us hahaha

[fringe star]

for the new update I was able to make the animations faster without affecting much of the quality, make the enemy more readable(you can know which team a unit is on), add stuff like inlevel objectivess, map movement, save files and added an actual final boss. cant wait for the jam to allow updates

[civic fractal]

Solving the mysteries of the universe itch's popularity system

[tacit wasp]

Remember: no matter how much you plug, there's a certain person here that has plugged much more anyway

[rotund rampart]

I think I plugged more than mikaturtle unironically

[civic fractal]

That person is Mika

[native chasm]

I'll plug then
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344

[tacit wasp]

Could be between you, Vaza and Mika lmao

[native chasm]

I've plugged my game only 18 times

[tacit wasp]

Wait let me check

Need to step up my plugging game

[waxen wasp]

21 result for us, our plugging game is strong

[rotund rampart]

nvm I lose

[waxen wasp]

oh

[tacit wasp]

[waxen wasp]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213324

[civic fractal]

-1, someone else posted ours

[waxen wasp]

we need to get to 100 before the voting ends

gonna need to plug every hour of the day

[rotund rampart]

oh

why 100

[civic fractal]

Surely we won't get banned for spam

[waxen wasp]

nice number, idk

[rotund rampart]

I'll race you to 100

[waxen trail]

I finally played Abandoned Pub @past meadow It's really gud

[past meadow]

[waxen wasp]

bro has a head start

[tacit wasp]

In all honesty tho, we're very close to 30 rankings so go play this game if you haven't!
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211795

[rotund rampart]

man I love eliv

[waxen wasp]

i cant cuz only one person per team has voting privileges, and iggly rated your game already

[civic fractal]

27, pretty close to 30 as well

[waxen trail]

Same, she funny

[tacit wasp]

Sadge

[civic fractal]

This was the first game I rated actually

[rotund rampart]

first game I rated was probably abandoned pub

caught my attention instantly, second was neuro wars

[fringe star]

wait what?

[tacit wasp]

I forgot which was rhe first game I played
My memory is as good as an LLM

[lavish escarp]

was it perchance this one (plug) https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[fringe star]

the cover just looks like a random screenshot

[rotund rampart]

literally one of the first comment

[civic fractal]

I had to log mine to avoid duplications with my team

[tacit wasp]

I don't think so but it was one of the first I tried to play

[rotund rampart]

its charming, trust me

[fringe star]

[tacit wasp]

Evil's Malice was probably the first one I played
I remember really wanting to play it but couldn't because something was messed up with the download

[rotund rampart]

yea Vaza had to troubleshoot

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211268

plugging this cause I said troubleshoot

[fringe star]

1st that i played is obvious, 2nd the the gameboy one third is the neuro vs the world

[lavish escarp]

shit you not

first game that wasnt (plug) https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

that i played during the game jam

was tutel rancher

tutel breeder game

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3207559

[rotund rampart]

next jam I gotta be more direct with my title and thumbnail

[tacit wasp]

Well that was a quick first game

Thanks for the help

[civic fractal]

https://kingbobson.itch.io/neuro-dig
I am winning this, one way or anothrt

[fringe star]

the sun has risen, gnight guys

[civic fractal]

Have a nice sleep

[rotund rampart]

oo East Asia?

[native chasm]

I won it 3rd time I think (didn't understand what to do at first)

[waxen trail]

I feel like this game works really well when you have good clues, but some clues are too good

[civic fractal]

I've gotten the 5 locations so far, that attempt failed tho.

[native chasm]

Btw u've made sea of memories, right?

[waxen trail]

Yeah!

Made it with GrabThatBread the artist/composer

[native chasm]

Just wanted to ask, is it ok if I take the idea and add similar thing to my discord bot?

[waxen trail]

Hmm... similar how?

[native chasm]

Like different characters, events and stuff, but the mechanic of getting crew, fighting monsters and running from fog is kinda same

Basically same idea with map but different interactions

[waxen trail]

If it's a discord bot for personal and not commercial use then sure - though technically you can't copyright game mechanics, and if you took all the mechanics and put them on a steam game there'd be nothing I can do about it haha

I do want to turn it into an actual game on Steam personally tbh (with different maps & characters) but will take me a while

[native chasm]

Not commercial, just wanted to make sure u r fine with that

[native chasm]

Ohh that would be nice!

[waxen trail]

Is it just going to be used in your own server with friends?

[native chasm]

Yeah kinda

Not mine server, a friend of mine