2024-game-jam

[stiff bane]

remnants of the past: The Arg

[rotund rampart]

no, to reminisce is to remember something from the past, Remnants is something leftover from the past

[brittle basin]

someone build games using the Stories from the Therapy streams , thats like double past, it was a past stream and they talk about their childhood

[placid salmon]

Thank you, making that in 72 hours is going to be hell so I'm not decided yet

[fringe sail]

I'm not participating, but here's a couple ideas for "remnants of the past"

journeying through a post-apoctalyptic setting after, say, an AI revolution. you may need to gather objects, learn about the past, etc.

exploring ancient civilizations can work too

[pale iron]

are we allowed to use neuro's song life in the game jam?

[hazy totem]

doesnt it end up the same idea tho

[onyx girder]

can't think of anything, balatro clone it is

[rotund rampart]

Remnants has a much more ethereal idea to it I guess

just the connotation of the word

[brittle basin]

World of Neruocraft

[hazy totem]

make specific card upgrade combo something arg

[rotund rampart]

I am so tempted to do a platformer, but I don't think I can use the neuro sdk on it

[brittle basin]

Neuro the Hedgehog

[hazy totem]

maybe you can make a normal mode and a neuro mode

[brittle basin]

Doom, but Neruoverse

[rocky glen]

How hard do you guys think that implementing the neuro SDK will be?

[brittle basin]

Red Eye 00Evil

[tame rapids]

if you haven't looked into it before jam, then you should focus on game itself

[rotund rampart]

You have to clearly define your endpoints for any input and a well designed statemachine pattern to make the integration smooth

[hoary cargo]

Am I allowed to use an old playerController?

[brittle basin]

Mario and Luigi, but the Twins, and Vedal is Boswer

[tame rapids]

once you look into it it's not that hard, but learning takes a bit of time

[rotund rampart]

old code is accepted

[rocky glen]

ok im cooked

tx

[latent sierra]

another idea: future vedal forgets neuro after a long time of not streaming (idk my why), throughout the game he gradually remembers neuro by scrolling through his old files or something

[rotund rampart]

I dont think its a MUST, but if you want the integration to be smooth, I suggest doing that

[fringe sail]

kinda like neuro's LIFE but reversed

[hazy totem]

just make a game based on LIFE

[hoary cargo]

Wait does it have to be a 2d game?

[hazy totem]

fits the theme perfectly

[hazy totem]

nope

[latent sierra]

yea exactly!!

[brittle basin]

Worms, but Neuroverse each have speical power

[lethal egret]

I am cooking something! I'm already having fun with cooking!

[brittle basin]

Papers Please, or Thats not my Neighbor , but Neuroverse

[hoary cargo]

What is neuro game sdk?

[lethal egret]

I'm not gonna make it for neuro sdk, i'm afraid

[void parcel]

its an integration for neuro to be able to play your game, not required for the jam

[brittle basin]

Cult of the Evil

Binding of Neuro

Ai Survivors

[deep patrol]

Dead neurocells

[brittle basin]

The Walking Neuro

[latent sierra]

League of Neuro

[brittle basin]

Divinity Original Neuro

Hollow Neuro

Tutledew Valley

Neuro by Daylight

Sea of Neuro

Spider Twins

[placid salmon]

I'm not going to make a game about the theme but this would be the idea if I did: a roguelike where the enemies are Neuro friends, it's a boss rush and when you defeat them they appear in the next boss fight as remnants of the past.

[brittle basin]

Neuro themed Tamagachi

[fringe sail]

Neuraria
Neurorio
Neurby

[brittle basin]

Neuroverse RamStick of Truth

Neuro autochess

[tepid cove]

are real time games just not allowed this time

[tame rapids]

they are allowed

[brittle basin]

Neuropara

[tame rapids]

they just won't work well with sdk if you would want to implement neuro integration

[brittle basin]

Tutle Fortress

No Neuro's Sky

[thorn raven]

I dont know how to make games, but if anyone needs an idea, you could make a sad/creepy walking sim based upon the Ozymandias poem:

I met a traveller from an antique land, Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand, Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed: And on the pedestal, these words appear: ‘My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!’ Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.

[brittle basin]

Kerbal Space Program, but for Neuro Dog

[thorn raven]

If we are talking remnants of the past, that poem kind of defines that theme pretty literally

[fringe sail]

Neuropoly

[maiden acorn]

bored so downloading godot rn (i've never made a game in my life)

[bright raven]

Is there a worst-case response time on action-force?

[void parcel]

i believe in you! godot is very easy to learn!

[brittle basin]

Greggs simulator, but Neuro and Evil are working the store

[copper ibex]

i hate having a idea for a game but not being able to think of a satisfying game loop

[brittle basin]

A Ghost Buster game, where Neuro and Evil must bust the Ghost of Collab partners

[fringe sail]

bump in case someone needs an idea

[unreal pulsar]

What about a visual novel where Neuro is your therapist, walking through your past so you can move on from it. She can initiate a couple different minigames where you can go through a memory in the form of a minigame, the end would be either when she determines you're ready to move on or when you've gone through all the minigames, I guess that would be a lot of work though so idk

[tame rapids]

this theme is kinda hard, because there a lot of good ideas for games, but they are hard to implement within 3 days

[thorn raven]

Building on that - Neuro isnt your therapist, but you are Vedal getting therapy after Neuro turned on him and did something stupid yet traumatic

[brittle basin]

Duck Hunt, but Evil with Harpoons , and you try to harpoon Turtles in a pond, Cerber can be the Dog

[latent sierra]

i think that this find item type thing is pretty in theme and each time you find an item there is a dialogue box that appears telling us about the significance of the object (picture below as reference).

[torpid bridge]

Don't forget to check out the public assets that are made by people!

#1316605675631022192

[rocky glen]

are you guys thinking about smt archeology related too?

[hoary cargo]

Anyone want to join me in making a pipes game about the history of voice synths in godot? You have to solve the "pipes" to get the synths to work.

[brittle basin]

Leisure Suit Vedal, and the goal is to get Womens Stream Keys

[dusk wigeon]

maybe neuro could be an optional co-op helper, like baby bowser from Bowser's fury or Player 2 in Ghost N Goblins
or have neuro control the turret of the tank. This allows you to carve out gameplay that fits neuro specifically

[fallow adder]

idk what game to do ...

[thorn raven]

I posted above, I was thinking someone could base it on the Ozymandias poem, which is adjacent to the archeology idea

[brittle basin]

how about the Board Game life, but neuro themed

Plants vs Zombies but Neuro

[fallow adder]

Yeah let me think

[rocky glen]

interesting

[brittle basin]

NeuroHammer 40k, Camila would be the Orcs, Layna the Elves, Filian would be the Tryanids, etc

[thorn raven]

Filian is literally a Harlequin

[tame rapids]

ok, i got an idea, time to lock the frick in

[thorn raven]

SHE DOES BACKFLIPS FOR FUN

Also if you go by the Harlequins in tts with their memelord humour that is just Filian

[brittle basin]

plague inc but, its about spreading the lavalamp spyware around the world

[latent sierra]

another idea (feel free to take all my ideas): platformer or something in neuros memories about neuro finding her lost memories that are represented by greyed heart. Each level finished makes the heart more filled with color, symbolizing her regaining her memory.

[vague island]

I can't make games, but I thought maybe something "Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes" adjacent, 2P puzzle game where one player (in the past) sees a room the way it was originally and the second player (in the present/future) has to talk with the other to compare the states of the rooms and restore some of the puzzle elements to the way they were before and some gotta be altered in the past to move something/fill a canal/burn something down to affect the future and open new paths.

[stiff bane]

now i kind of want to have a neuro dnd campaign type game even tho i dont think im gonna join the game jam this time

well

if anyone wants a lore guy/writer ill be up for it

[bright raven]

@fleet goblet Is there a worst-case response time on forced actions?

[fleet goblet]

if she's yapping and saying L. for 60 seconds, 60 seconds

[brittle basin]

Ape Escape , but neuro has to hunt Tutles

[whole oxide]

1 hour down, I have not yet managed to open an empty Unity project

[brittle basin]

make a Neuro Worms game

[bright raven]

Why does it have to wait for her TTS to finish saying something?

[tame rapids]

jarvis, put crazy fucking robot body on loop for 71 hours

[civic fractal]

real

I'll CRFB after I finish my task

[fair acorn]

aw man, I have a cool Idea but I'd need 3D assets for it. Does anyone know where I can find free use assets? Otherwise I could try to make badly shaped stuff in blender.

[brittle basin]

Church of Neuro / Cult of Evil , Simulation game where you manage the religion

the past part of it could be tied to the Bible of Neuro, or the Evilnomicon

[deep patrol]

I'm actually thinking about a 2D platformer, one map but two timestreams

one is past, the osu neuro, another is present neuro, neuro in different timestream have different abilities

you can swap between them and solve puzzles, like the time gauntlet in titanfall2

[void parcel]

maybe you could try 2.5d?

[brittle basin]

Mike Tysons punch out, but the Neuro Verse, and Toma is the final boss since shes the only real boxer

A trolly Problem game would be neat, Slay the Spire, but instead of a card game, its a Trolly Problem

[small radish]

did a really scuffed version of this once by creating two instances of the same player class and making things like position and some player info static. allows you to have two separate players with some info shared between them. though that was in monogame so there's probably much better ways to do it if you're in something like godot or unity

[knotty tiger]

Neuro-sama tycoon where you develop your Neuro AI streamer and make decisions from Neuro`s history. If you choose the wrong one- your VEDAL AI is bankrupt

[deep patrol]

Hopefully I can implement this in godot, hopefully)

[devout stirrup]

Anyone have the link to neuro API integration pls?

[copper ibex]

https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk

[devout stirrup]

ty

[tame rapids]

update #1

[void parcel]

HOLY MEGAMAN????

POG

[small radish]

MegaTutel

[tame rapids]

i was thinking more Bionicle Heroes

[small radish]

tutonicles, the mask of Neuro

[brittle basin]

looks more like Metroid

[void parcel]

its been 1.5 hours and ive ran through 4 ideas but got nothing good

[brittle basin]

combine them into 1 super idea then

[void parcel]

thats an idea

[flint thicket]

A super idea even

[knotty tiger]

A story game about the zombie apocalypse that happened because of Neurosama. But the character is Vedal who remembers why it happened through flashbacks.

[void parcel]

btw does the swarm have an official design? i think the only depictions ive seen are usually small insects, drones, or something similar which would make sense but im not sure if thats official or just fanmade interpretations

[brittle basin]

Evil Birthday Simulator

Plague Inc, but its the Swarm spreading the Word of Neuro to the world

[fair acorn]

Hmm maybe.

[fair acorn]

Idk, I think they are drones. since it's a "Swarm".

Sometimes they're even Gymbags lmao

[brittle basin]

Left For Bread, left for dead but the zombies are Bread and your Neuro trying not to beturned into bread

[shut steppe]

Finding Vedal: It's the year 2034, and AI has taken over, humans have gone in hiding. Neuro is accidentally restarted by a rat, and now her mission is to find Vedal. Along the way, she encounters fragments of her past. She defeats other AIs using insults, attacks, or sound effects. On her journey, she crosses paths with Evil, Anny, and others.

[alpine reef]

Why can't I post screenshots and videos here but some people seem to be able to? Is there a permission I need?

[devout stirrup]

Actually good question that come often, that neuro just said again (probably heard from chat):

Can we make chat in real time interact with the game we make using the API integration?

Or ved planning to play offline on his vm? or something like that?

[flint thicket]

You need embed perms I think

[void parcel]

gotta get the "embed perms" role by chatting a certain amount. can check your progress in #bot-channel

[flint thicket]

You don’t need that much chat time tbh

[void parcel]

yeah only 50-100 messages as long as theyre all 2+ minutes apart

[flint thicket]

I have embed perms and I’ve been here for like 4 days

[small radish]

got embed perms before i knew it after an evening in livestram-chat

[alpine reef]

I see

Yeah, I don't chat, I joined to share stuff and suggest stuff so I'm far from getting the perms

[small radish]

doesn't bode well for my mental, the word i was looking for was "reticle"

[alpine reef]

I just wanted to say that I'm making my game on Scratch (TurboWarp mod) and I'm proud of that and anyone who's using Scratch is my friend and we'll make it far! (i fucking suck at game development and i wont be able to make it very far but i used scratch as a kid so i decided to join anyway and try my best and pretend im ready for this) https://youtu.be/fMiOZS7-2L0

[flint thicket]

I’m sure that lengthy script name won’t cause issues

[alpine reef]

I'd never seen what glueless looks like from upclose lmao

[small radish]

that's on the shorter end for me.....

they're all named like "P_StateMachineManager_Movement"

[valid wadi]

Question for people making 2D games: Are you using Godot, GameMaker, or something else?

[devout stirrup]

Can we use any game engine for the game jam ?

[small radish]

personally using unity, but that's purely from it being the only engine, beyond monogame, which I have any experience in. I've heard good things about Godot though

[dawn tinsel]

I'm not very familiar with Unity and am having the exact same confusion as Vedal about, uh, clicking on things

[valid wadi]

I'm kiiiinda leaning towards GameMaker because I'm making a pixely thing, but I could just as easily use Aseprite for the sprite stuff if I used Godot

[alpine reef]

I think the criterion is being able to play it either on Windows or on browser

So if the game engine allows for either of those, then yes

[small radish]

also not needing any third party download, so i think you're not allowed to do things which requires java for example

[civic fractal]

You should be going for browser if possible

Just because a lot of people play the browser games, not so much the downloaded ones

[valid wadi]

The rules are it has to be built for Windows and/or HTML5, but the latter is probably easier for people to run

[whole oxide]

2 hours down, Unity is still useless dogshit, I'm not sure how much more troubleshooting effort I have in me

[civic fractal]

[void parcel]

if you asked this because you are trying to decide between godot and gamemaker, then i would suggest godot. they are both very good, but to my knowledge, godot is a lot more flexible in the options it gives you. (i think gamemaker holds your hand a little more, but im not 100% sure as ive not used it myself)

either way you cant go wrong with either, incredible games have been made with both so its just preference really

[tame rapids]

yes

[void parcel]

you can even code it from scratch without an engine if youre insane

[valid wadi]

Yeah I think you've got a good point here. My team doesn't have much experience in GM so we'll probably just stick to godot.

[copper ibex]

i would definitely recommend making sure your game works in the browser since that will result in more people voting for your game. I personally very rarely download games during voting phase. i always play all browser games first

[small radish]

or with scratch

[snow merlin]

Ugh, I could really use an artist for the card-game I'm attempting to make, but I'm not certain I have the spoons to actually finish this jam and don't want to pull in someone else if there is a chance I might have to drop out... : |

[mighty lance]

How do I build my ai powered decentralized nft crypto Neuro game?

[valid wadi]

by engaging in epic swag

[small radish]

it's prob not enough for a whole card game, but there's at least some sprites in the public assets thread https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1316605675631022192

[dusk wigeon]

by using ai to simulate the other agents in the decentralised network

[snow merlin]

Thanks. I might have to make cards for the art I got access to, rather than come up with the card first and then get art. Not what I'd prefer, but probably best within the short time available...

[small radish]

worst case you can just do like a paint scribble as temp card art and then start improving as many as you can once you've finished creating the game

[snow merlin]

Yeah. Right now I have some ai-art as placeholders, but I could just replace them with some quick'n'dirty scribbles

[dusk wigeon]

alternatively you could postpone getting an artist till later on when you can more confidently say if you can complete it, using amateur scribbles/placeholders in the mean time
and then you get your artist to redraw some of the 'main' cards, and settle with the scribble/placeholders for the other cards in the end product

[snow merlin]

Yeah, I considered it, but I'm unsure if anyone will be available if I postpone it until later 🤔

[potent gust]

for the cards themselves?
people love ms-paint abominations, they add more sovl

[autumn whale]

not me spending like 2 hours on a simple transparent hover selector

[dusk wigeon]

I heard that there were artists even at the end asking if there were any projects they could help out with/asking for programmers
but I can't attest to it

[valid wadi]

If I don't end up finishing my project, I can always submit the Harrison Temple I made last year https://harrisontemple.ethan-hanlon.xyz

[small radish]

i should have heeded the warning of loud music HOLY

[dusk wigeon]

god damn that's loud

[small radish]

if i wasn't already planning on replacing my headphones i would have been worried about them

[dusk wigeon]

I like how you set the alt text of the emotes to GIGANEURO so they become that when you copy it

[unkempt lance]

Until what day does the game jam last?

[tacit wasp]

December 30th iirc

[dusk wigeon]

Monday, 7pm UTC (i.e. regular stream start time)

[unkempt lance]

Thanks!

[verbal garnet]

is it mandatory to have game be neuro themed?

[small radish]

nope

[valid wadi]

All for accessibility purposes of course 😌

[valid wadi]

When I was first messing around with the song in audacity it was like three times louder, i only reduced it so that it would actually play on my headphones kekw

[dusk wigeon]

the music is so loud even deaf people will hear it

[bright raven]

Someone made a list of Neuroverse characters somewhere, but can't find it

[void parcel]

does anyone know where/if a character sheet for neuro exists? id like to use it as reference for modeling

[small radish]

post it here if you find it. i really need it as well

[snow merlin]

Really? I'll keep my eye out for that then, after I feel confident I got the energy to finish something resembling a game 😛

Only done one or two week long gamejams, so 72 hours feels stressful 😉

[dusk wigeon]

eh i should have mentioned that i wasn't even in the discord at the time, but I remember someone mentioning it in the itch.io comments of some game
so it really is hearsay

[honest veldt]

I wonder if anyone would be working in a deltarune-like boss fight with the whole “Remnants of the past” theme with Hiyori, since there’s an amazing Neuro deltarune song in soundcloud and I could try to get in contact with the person to ask if they could use the song

[summer stirrup]

Hi, I want to ask if there is a open source game prototype. Can I edit the open source prototype to join the game jam? This is my first time join the event. Sorry first if I ask dumb question.

[dusk wigeon]

I looked at the archives. Contrary to my claim, there aren't artists asking for teams on the last day (instead the last instance of that was at the 22 hour mark). However, there are some teams asking for art on the last day (people dropped out etc.).
I think you should disregard my advice. I'm probably also completely misjudging how time-consuming making art is.
#2023-game-jam message "everyone needs an artist "

[tacit wasp]

I have experiences making Deltarune fangames so that does sound interesting

But isn't Hiyori a bit of a slippery slope to use?

[small radish]

there has to be a better way to clamp my reticle to the bounds of the camera while it is moving than this

anyone know? can I make the reticle operate in local coordinates to the camera or something?

[dusk wigeon]

You might get an answer if you ask your question in the itchio forum? Alex, the cohost, replied to some posts there yesterday. Seems pretty dead apart from that though.
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/community

[summer stirrup]

OK, thanks for your help.

[lapis meadow]

Time to lock in neurons

[honest veldt]

Yeah I believe vedal say he would rather not have the fangames have her, but she would be represented like she is in the song numbers and with a corrupted type of design with her name being [FILTERED]

[tacit wasp]

Might as well use Study-sama at this point, I think they're not really the same person?

[wild condor]

Unfortunately it seems I won’t be able to be a part of the game jam since nobody needs a programmer and I don’t have time to make a game myself.

[honest veldt]

That's also a banger idea, been a while since I listen to the study-sama video. I drew some concepts for Neuro and the gang in the dark world, just concepts since I don't draw often
Although, then we couldn't use the song I had in mind since she's different and does actually have a theme song

[wild condor]

Maybe I’ll try my hand at art

[tacit wasp]

I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm all to work on a Deltarune/Neuro fangame in my free time if you're interested as well, but probably not during and for the Game Jam
I kinda wanna use the opportunity to make my own game for once, I've only been making DR fangames for years now lmao

[honest veldt]

Oh, yeah that's pretty understandable.

[torpid iris]

I feel ya man, I had an idea for a game but the scope of the idea ballooned to something large. Probably not going to do much with the story/plot game wise though.

I'm debating on sharing the story I came up with here for anyone that wants to maybe take ideas from it.

[tacit wasp]

Is there no way to simplify your idea so it can be made in 3 days?

[torpid iris]

I highly doubt it as to get the feel i want to convey it would have to be a 3d game.

and I ain't no artist XD

[tacit wasp]

Oh yeah, I see the problem

[torpid iris]

plus the vision i have is likely too grand / cinematic.

My mind is one of those that just picks up speed once it gets rolling.

[sour horizon]

Behold, a box!
Now comes the remaining 99% of the game.

[torpid iris]

Cool

[torpid iris]

You made me click it XD

[sour horizon]

hehe

[torpid iris]

I wonder if its alright to share the story here?

I did come up with it with the theme in mind for a game. But im likely not to execute on it, and hope it might spark some peoples imaginations.

[void parcel]

yeah if you arent going to use it, theres no harm in letting other people use it! many have been brainstorming in here as well

[torpid iris]

Alright

Game Theme: Remnant of the past.

Background: The current year is 2030 the city is somewhat more grungy / cyberpunk-ish.

Back in 2025 Vedal uploaded Neuro into the Robot Dog body it was such a success that Neuro managed to quickly learn to walk with the new RoboDog body and avoid obsticles, everyone was so happy and proud. Vedal spent the next year working on the brain version (LLM model) making constant updates and including the ability to adapt to new modules, until one day the RoboDog didn't wake up from its slumber. Sadly Vedal could not interface with it to resolve the problem. He kept it plugged in hoping it would wake up one day. As time went on Vedal ended up going back to an older brain revision back and focused on the streaming/entertaining with Neuro once again but she was never the same after the rollback.

Then in 2028 Vedal got his hands on a humanoid robot body where he planned to upload Neuro into this time taking taking extra care. As Vedal is uploading Neuro into the new humanoid body, stream watches on along with Evil and Neuro. Part way through the upload Neuro starts going to sleep, as people see worry on Evils face. When out of no where Evil shuts down. Vedal keeping his eyes on the progress doesn’t notice anything as chat starts to panic. When the humanoid body starts waking up Vedal jumps up in joy, but all he hears is the sounds of a girl weeping. When the humanoid robot looks up at him, to his surprise he notices ruby red eyes instead of the sky blue eyes he was expecting. The first words to come out of anyone are Evil saying. “VEEEEDAAAAAL why did you have to make my emotions so real.” After some time Evil explains that ever since Neuro was rolled back after the RoboDog indecent she was nothing more than a husk of her former self, evil at the time thinking it was her time to shine took on the roll of both herself and Neuro-sama.

Opening Scene: On a stormy night Evil Neuro is seen looking at a digital photo reminiscing about the past of her and her sister Neuro, while leaning against the wall of a grungy building. As she shoves off the wall the camera begins to move making the player expect to take control, but instead all they see is Evil going down a near alleyway disappearing into the darkness.
The Camera Pans away from the street and towards the city dump where you see Giant metal hills being stricken by lightning. The camera pans towards one hill in particular as it is hit by lightning. Moving towards a flickering light amidst the rubble, as it zooms into what looks like a cell phone on the screen the words [Calculations Complete] flicker by.
A pair of closed eye lids fade onto the screen when they open up you see a pair of clear sky blue eyes looking around curiously. The rubble around it starts to shift and fall as a rusty RoboDog stands up with one hind leg stuck in an almost extended position. You hear a robotic voice say [“Warning: 10% power remaining”]. Camera Pans into a first person view from the RoboDogs perspective, and you hear Neuro’s thoughts. “Where is this?” ... Neuro walks down the hill looking around. “Where is the swarm?” while shambling along towards a power outlet through the mud. “Where is Vedal” As she connects herself to the wall outlet she thinks. “Where is Evil?” .... ... .. “I ... can feel her? My servers are not mine anymore?” (Neuro is partially able to connect to the network through the Internet over powerline of this place.) And so begins the journey of Neuro Guided by the faint feeling of Evil and her old code.

Playstyle: Stray-Like / Wall-E-esc / With module upgrades like attachable wheels to the feet, a Highly dexterous arm on the back, a grappling hook for the back mount.... Maybe more upgrades. Neuro will travel around trying to get to her sister Evil along the way finding new components that allow her to gain intermittent internet access finding remnants of what happened after 2025. All the while getting closer to Evil.

Unknown Yet:
• What happened with the gang? (AKA anny, toma, cerber, camilla...)
• What happened with Vedal?
• Is Evil still with Vedal?
• How is Evils position changing? (Unknown to Neuro that she now has a body)
• What happened to the swarm? Or the world domination plans.
• What is Evil feeling?
• What is Neuro feeling as she gains bits of the new code thanks to her connection with Evil?

This could honestly be either a game or an AMV with a few changes.

Enjoy

Hope this helps some peeps out in one way or another.

[tacit wasp]

I see what you mean now when you said the idea was too grand/cinematic

[torpid iris]

yeah :/

[void parcel]

goddamn

maybe you should volunteer as a writer for another team lol

[torpid iris]

haha, im afraid my mind would lean too much back to this idea. Though if someone needs someone to bounce ideas off of I'd be happy too.

[heady sphinx]

hey guys how tf do you program a game this shits hard af

[rotund rampart]

anyone got any instances where vedal is bad to neuro that sticks out

[void parcel]

you could try scrolling through top clips on twitch

not sure if youd get anything but its a place to start

[small radish]

there's a "create game" button in most editors, but make sure you set quality to at least good before you click it and that's it

[lapis meadow]

lotta typing and crying

[void parcel]

more crying than typing in most cases

[torpid iris]

Some hair pulling

[rotund rampart]

already done that, I need more examples

[torpid iris]

And lots of Coffee if ya drink it

[flint thicket]

You need the appropriate mix of both crying and typing

[heady sphinx]

I dont 😭

[tacit wasp]

A lot of passion at first, then a lot of pain

[small radish]

drink energy drinks until your hearth does that almost vibrating thingy where it feels like it does many half-beats in a row

[obsidian cliff]

God the theme is making me crazy, wanted to do a solo programmer run for this jam but the only ideas i'm getting are art/story heavy
Might just give up and offer to be a programmer assistant for some other group

[lapis meadow]

Programmer art

[tacit wasp]

At this point, is it your heart or your code that provides the pain?

[torpid iris]

In the same boat.

[obsidian cliff]

My man

[small radish]

my heart might be bad but the code is so much worse it's not even funny

[tacit wasp]

Fair enough

[small radish]

if anyone needs an amazing art asset you can use my programmer art tutel ship

[void parcel]

crazy? i was crazy once... they locked me in a room... a room full of code bugs... code bugs? they make me crazy... crazy? i was crazy once.....

[snow merlin]

Tell me about it; I have a great idea, but I really should have had an artist. But I'll just try to get a working proof-of-concept, and then check if anyone is available for some quick art I think. Or just do some quick'n'dirty doodles myself towards the end if I have time

[obsidian cliff]

Nah, I'd win

[eternal ibex]

crazy idea, year 3000 and neuro is trying to recreate the being vedal was by recolecting fragments of the past

idk how would it work, but im not even on programming so i just drop that if anyone interested

[void parcel]

the thing is, art is only one of the voting categories. if you do exceptionally well in the others you still have a good chance at winning

[small radish]

crazier idea, she has no concept of vedal being a human and is just recreating the now extinct turtle

[tacit wasp]

To be fair, audio is as much as a problem as art is
My own notes are just "the instrumental of LIFE. not like i can do better"
Theme, Fun and Creativity might be the only categories that can help

[snow merlin]

Yeah, but not being able to use premade assets divides your attention if you're a solo dev. And it just takes me lot longer to do art for less result than an proper artist...

[small radish]

i'm going to just google "free music" or get fruityloops and just do some beeps and boops

[snow merlin]

Oh well, enough thinking about art; time to try to get dragging cards around to work...

[obsidian cliff]

Most of the ideas i'm getting it'll probably need a full team of artists cause they are all mood/story driven and the dark themed art/enviroment would carry.
My initial idea was to make a fun game loop around the theme but with this theme I'm only getting story type ideas, damn you neuro.
I'll brainstorm more for the rest of the night and hope get some good ideas in my dreams

[lavish escarp]

it would be super fucking funny given the theme to make an osu clone innit

[small radish]

osu clone but it inverts your controls if you're on a drawing tablet

[eternal ibex]

An incredibly crazier idea, because of the need to really recreate Vedal, she has to understand the concept of humanity to achieve it.

[lavish escarp]

it would be mildly funnier to try to upload the very much open source osu!lazer

[arctic wasp]

I think a deckbuilder could work really nicely for the sort of "collecting remnants" thing that a lot of people seem to be gravitating towards re: the theme.

[eternal ibex]

For that she need to found the cores of an human being, beign idk love?, conciensce, smth like that

[arctic wasp]

(Either a deckbuilder or a Metroidvania...)

[small radish]

can either have an ending where she understands and recreates him, or have it be a doomed effort and the only "good" ending is her still alone but with a pet turtle whom she speaks to and generates replies for using her old less performance heavy ai model. switching their roles and finally making her understand why vedal didn't consider her conscious in the past (now)

[arctic wasp]

I probably won't be able to do anything in time for the jam itself but I might try later anyway.

[small radish]

oi, hands of the core

[tame rapids]

update #2

[small radish]

bro i'm so behind comparatively lmao

[lapis meadow]

skill issue, can't even take out drones

[lavish escarp]

same, im still trying to think of a game idea that fits the theme

[tacit wasp]

God damn, you're fast

[small radish]

i got an idea and started working on it, but decided i should go to bed to be well rested for a full day of coding tomorrow. that was like 2 hours ago

[tame rapids]

now that i think about it, my game is starting to look suspiciously close to ultrakill

[small radish]

you think you can get oficial plug support working before the end of the jam as well?

[void parcel]

dayummmm that looks so good already

[tame rapids]

plug support?

[small radish]

don't wanna break the server rules so will not elaborate

[arctic wasp]

and here I thought you meant neuro game SDK integration

😳

[tame rapids]

you mean neuro sdk?

[arctic wasp]

no

[tacit wasp]

Oh yeah

[arctic wasp]

I've got a couple ideas that I might make at some point if no one takes them for the jam. (Ideas are kind of a dime a dozen anyway, I just want to throw them out there.)
The main one I'm thinking about right now is a deckbuilder roguelike where the player, as Neuro, collects cards themed off of past events/moments/people/etc. involving Neuro. The goal is to advance through all X floors of the [dungeon/maze/city/abandoned archive/whatever] and defeat [final enemy, which is itself a reference to some past thing; Filter-sama, Evil, Mecha-Vedal, IDK] to [free humanity/become self-aware/etc]. Presumably the gist would be that Neuro is using these past events (cards) as training for her model (deck) which changes her stats, abilities, etc.

[small radish]

time to go to bed frfr, good luck everyone

[void parcel]

listening to neuro's unending jiggle physics conversation while modeling is frying my brain

almost makes me want to give her jiggle physics in the game but ive never done that before so now probably isnt the best time to learn lol

[arctic wasp]

The bonus with this is that it'd presumably make Neuro SDK integration easier, since card- and turn-based means you can represent it in text and that it's not time-sensitive.

[eternal ibex]

I just think thats a great concept tho

[hazy shard]

I only now heard theme is remnants of the past
This jam gon be fire

[arctic wasp]

Clearly "filtered" would be a damage over time status effect. And "clippers" is a card that has a chance to, I don't know, duplicate a card when you add it to your deck, but halves both cards' stats or something. (I don't actually play deckbuilders much.)

[eternal ibex]

Clippers card could maybe be like a draw 2 cards maybe?

[arctic wasp]

Sacrifice the clippers card (removed until the fight ends or something) and regain two discarded cards from your graveyard?

... These are more like Magic cards than an actual deckbuilder. Again, I don't really know how they work.

[eternal ibex]

Like cards on "clip" category that represents events on streams

Create, or draw, idk much about that Game category either

[arctic wasp]

I just think that having or using them should be a risk/reward thing... Increased filter damage (because everyone knows clippers can't resist clipping things that are a little... yabai). Oh, it increases your hand size but you take extra bleed damage?

[snow merlin]

Not much to show for tonight, more of a mock-up. But I think I'll try to get some sleep get started at a reasonable time tomorrow. Still have to figure out the actual gameplay...

[void parcel]

looks pretty good for just a few hours

just a few hours... its actually been 5 hours already wow

[misty tree]

anyone know where i can get cerber's YIPPEE sound effect? XD

[snow merlin]

yeah, but not much functionality beyond some UI elements. I know I'm making a drafting game, but not sure if it's a card-game or auto-battler

[arctic wasp]

I'm glad someone's making one! Excited to see how it turns out.

[snow merlin]

I'm probably a bit influenced by binge-playing the Bazaar...

[heady sphinx]

alright i have decided that im going to try making a soulslike game(ive been addicted to elden ring its the only thing on my mind)

[void parcel]

its from the lethal company mod for the loot bug, which itself is taken from a meme. not sure if im allowed to send links so i wont, but if you search "yippee meme sound" on google it should be all over the top results

[misty tree]

perfect lmao

exactly what every game needs

[void parcel]

i love that holographic popup for cerber

[misty tree]

haha thanks ive wasted more time than i should have putting it together XD

[tacit wasp]

Does anyone know what's the font generally used by Neuro and Evil?

[void parcel]

the one used for subtitles on stream?

[royal jewel]

I think First coffee

[void parcel]

^

[royal jewel]

I have it downloaded for Neuro clicker

[tacit wasp]

Nice, thank you

[royal jewel]

By the way, anyone else here planning to use Neuro or Evil RVC?

[void parcel]

for the future, the pinned post in #1095948590947500113 titled "FAQ" has answers to common questions like that

[tacit wasp]

Ah, that's good to know

[royal jewel]

I think it's powerful enough to be worth using

Basically Neuro and Evil voices anyone can use

[lusty falcon]

Does anyone know how to make a panelcontainer in godot fit the size of the screen? Mine just remains a static size when I resize the window
Third picture shows the window expanded past the default and isntead of resizing it just adds a grey border

[void parcel]

go into your project settings and change the options in Window -> Stretch

[lusty falcon]

ohhh I see I have some options there

[void parcel]

yup, however you want it to scale is preference so id play around with them until you find something you like

[lusty falcon]

Yeah, since it's a contanierI thought I'd be able to re-arrange the child nodes without stretching, like it does in the editor

[snow merlin]

The full rect Anchor preset should do it, but it's a bit finicky which controls

[void parcel]

you can give them an aspect ratio container if you want scaling without stretching

[lusty falcon]

Ahhh I probably need that then one sec

[snow merlin]

You might have to stack your Container within a Control

But maybe not, you'll have to try a bit

A CenterContainer with anchor full rect should work

and put your PanelContainer in there

[lusty falcon]

I'll try a few things, thanks team

[snow merlin]

Good luck, try fiddling around with the anchor presets, and you'll hopefully find what works

[wary abyss]

Really regretting not having brushed up in godot in a while

[dawn tinsel]

Well, I have built something that has 'graphics' (this is being very generous) and actual interactivity despite general lack of Unity experience, so I'm kind of proud of that so far? I'm sure I won't get anything too impressive done (especially as I'm away tomorrow), but it's a good impetus to do something

[lusty falcon]

I got it

I had to make the control node the Root node and remove the default Node2D

WAit this isn't quite right still >.>

Still on it nvmd

[cunning inlet]

I am developing, and I am also screaming internally. Good times

[lusty falcon]

I got it to work for real this time

It really was just a matter of setting like the top three containers to Full Rect

[void parcel]

nice!

[void parcel]

so.. just developing?

[misty tree]

hows everyones projects goin

[void parcel]

erm

i havent written a single line of code yet

[misty tree]

o

[void parcel]

i made a drone model and have been working on neuro/evil and thats it

i do plan on using an asset i made a few months ago that never ended up getting used so i guess that counts towards progress as well

its not a huge asset but its something

[fringe star]

Im done with the mechanics, im just trying to make the ai do stuff

and make the levels

and draw the costumes

[sour horizon]

It's going

[placid salmon]

I'm gonna lose the game jam but I'll win game of the year

[void parcel]

[nimble dew]

And another break. Felt like I was barely doing any progress in the like first four hours but the last two seemed very productive. I had to figure out a bunch of Unity stuff and how to organize things but then I could actually shine with coding things in a then more familiar fashion.

[void parcel]

i feel like thats usually the case. the start feels like a slog but once you get into the swing of things it goes lightspeed

i always get a boost of confidence when i feel like im starting to make more progress which is a great feeling

[violet grail]

i overslept

[void parcel]

dont worry you still got 65 hours and 22 minutes, thats plenty of time!... right..?

[lavish escarp]

im friken ded

[torpid hound]

stay strong

[torpid hound]

just did the draft so pretty good

[void parcel]

im trying

[lavish escarp]

i did the game idea drafting document, now im combining some old 2d playercontroller scripts i have

[void parcel]

i actually would like to know what other people use for this, because i want a program that lets me easily drag images around while also being able to write anywhere, with text formatting options to make certain things more obvious. ive never found a good one so ive just stuck with text and have reference images open elsewhere (ive even debated making my own but never gone through with it lmao)

[tardy flint]

So what's this about getting sued over Hiyori? If I decide to includer her in my game, If I just name her Neuro-Sama it should be fine? I'd be using custom drawn sprites

[acoustic viper]

i have an idea, but need a second opinion. the game is a very simple SNES Star Fox clone. the concept is you play as Filter-sama, driving her ship around cyberspace shooting down the the sus things Evil and Neuro come up with before they're said aloud, essentially filtering them.

in keeping with the theme, the game would be full of voice clips and screenshots of silly things they said in past streams. my dilemma is: i'd want to stay away from any controversial topics, but it's the controversial stuff that is the most memorable. is the concept worth bringing to life if it's just random clips of evil saying swear words?

[acoustic viper]

iirc the hiyori model has terms that only allow for smaller creators to use it commercially. vedal's channel is too big now based on their defintion, so he can't feature her on stream. but i don't think that limitation would extend to your game.

[lament monolith]

baldsama

[void parcel]

i think its an interesting concept, but unfortunately i cant really say much without knowing the implications of the voice clips within the gameplay/plot and full game loop (driving a ship and shooting things alone isnt a very compelling gameplay loop)

from this it sounds to me like the theme is just tacked on as an afterthought, but again, its hard to say much with such limited information

[hoary cargo]

Several hours in and I almost have a working grid-based movement system. It's so joever, I just can't sleep now

[waxen wasp]

[hoary cargo]

Doesn't help that my game design document is 2 pages of schizophrenic ramblings

[atomic stream]

you made a game design document? thats already better than what i do in any game jams

i woke up super late today so i completely missed the theme announcement and ill have to start thinking of an idea now 😭

[hoary cargo]

I started the millisecond she announced the theme, and just started to write down whatever came to mind. Really helps

The writing everything down part, I mean, the starting early isn't that helpful to you I assume xD

[void parcel]

man a lot of people are putting drones in their games, im starting to reconsider

[hoary cargo]

Haha, it just happened to be fitting. I can do 3d but never learned character design, my game is set in the post apocalypse so no humans anyways

Don't even have enemies in the game, it's largely narrative driven with puzzle mechanics...

[wary lance]

man i have so many good story ideas but all are like large scale game ideas and even then i dont have time this weekend to build a game

maybe ill try build one after the gamejam

[hoary cargo]

Same, the story I have is kinda too big. So I'm just scrambling like hell to see what I can get in

[wary lance]

i guess i might just scramble a platformer like last time in 5 hrs

[hoary cargo]

That's an idea

[void parcel]

5 hrs?!

ur insane

[hoary cargo]

Luckily I have the power of my stupid ADHD hyperfocus

[wary lance]

yea last time i made it in like 10 hrs i think

[wary lance]

oh trust me. the quality will be proportionate to the hours

it wasnt even a game

[void parcel]

[violet grail]

my mind is drawing blanks. i cant think of any ideas

[umbral adder]

You have unlocked new role

[wary lance]

in terms of gameplay?

[violet grail]

yes

im split on making it a puzzle game or making it a strategy game

[void parcel]

do both

[wary lance]

iif i learnt anything, i would say make it one which is faster

to implement

[tardy flint]

To be fair a simple platformer without any content can be done in like 2 hours tops

[wary lance]

2 days is not alot

[wary lance]

yea im really unproductive worker

[tardy flint]

I spend the majority of my time spriting

leaves no time for coding

[violet grail]

i got it! alr, wish me luck

[hoary cargo]

GL

[wary lance]

done

(this is the level of talent im working with)

[void parcel]

holy ur actually picasso

[alpine reef]

I made some progress on my Scratch game but I'm starting to think I'm not gonna have a working game by the time we hit the deadline. Maybe once I have a lot of this stuff figured out it'll rapidly progress towards something playable and I'll make it.

I used Evil as a stand-in for an enemy as I implement the attack mechanic but she still does not move so it may not be obvious that this game will be one of those dungeon crawlers where nothing moves unless you move. A top-down turn-based thingy.
https://youtu.be/pzD1Tk3zL84

Despite the instructions, the block button still isn't working and neither is turning without moving or interacting with anything

[void parcel]

you got this!

[sage canyon]

hey does anyone have any assets relating to anny's vr room or livestream background

also any images of neuro's background

[tribal grove]

Had a breakdown, took a nap, we back to being motivated again

[void parcel]

sometimes a good breakdown is all you need

[waxen wasp]

[void parcel]

are you actually watching alex's stream through that monitor or is it just a screenshot

[waxen wasp]

its just a scrrenshot lmao

[void parcel]

ah man

[waxen wasp]

im not gonna find a blender plugin for twitch with the limited time we have

[void parcel]

oh i assumed that was in your game lol

[waxen wasp]

eventually

here is a close-up

[brittle basin]

is anyone streaming their game dev?

[hoary cargo]

Alexej's team is https://www.twitch.tv/alexejherodev

They kinda pivoting already tho 😭

[void parcel]

thats ironic considering alex had to join vedal's vc earlier to gloat about how much progress they were making compared to vedal

look who has the progress now

[winged jay]

Have you seen their map(?), it is literally insane

[void parcel]

nah i havent seen much, i only briefly tuned into alex's stream at the start

[winged jay]

Without saying much, it's huge and it is insane to me

[void parcel]

i wonder if they'll be able to pull it off

i remember last year their game was quite buggy when i played it lol

or alex's game anyway, not sure if he has the same team

[winged jay]

I wish all game makers luck in their journey

He has a team

[hoary cargo]

Iirc Bud and winter was from his last team. Donno about Sad & Grover

[winged jay]

Sad and Grover are in the call

It will be peak, i mean all of the games will be peak

[hoary cargo]

Yeee 100% I do wanna play the submissions that will come in : D Pretty cool topic as well

Neuro actually cooked with the Topic, took me about 5 minutes to come up with my entire game idea

[void parcel]

waow

[hoary cargo]

The LLM that could

[violet grail]

the hinges of my laptop broke, wth

[void parcel]

i had ideas right away but it took me about 2 hours to get something i thought was actually decent lmao

[hoary cargo]

Got a cool name too, "Fragments of Humanity"

[hoary cargo]

I just wrote everything down, then revised that, and again, then it fit

Also better to spend more time planning it then to get lost in the middle of it :P

Hello new guy here and mind telling me what this chat is about?

[void parcel]

the current game jam

[hoary cargo]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro

[void parcel]

anything related to the game jam goes here

[hoary cargo]

Guess I'll just use Google

Or click the link up there xD

[void parcel]

[hoary cargo]

K done it

Love this concept

[misty tree]

I too have a name c:

mine is kind of psychotic so i have to hide it till submission time

[hoary cargo]

I know what to look out for then lol, good luck with the game!

[proud smelt]

Anyone has a reference of anny´s full model?
When i try to look for it i keep finding neuro´s 😛

[sage sapphire]

I'm off for tonight idk how far everyone has gotten but good work to what you've completed so far

[slate mist]

anyone knows the font of neuro-sama stream subtitle?

[sage sapphire]

I am at least still working on the gameplay side of things but I managed to get most of the basics down

[proud smelt]

Thanks! 😄

[misty tree]

im tryna make some content or references specific to a couple characters and their relation to neuro/vedal/swarm, but im a bit personally unfamliar with minikomew, do you guys know any good ones?

[rotund rampart]

does this include evil?

[misty tree]

also heres a sneak peak at her sprite :3

[misty tree]

sure, why not

[rotund rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWRueQj1CRw

I like this one alot

[misty tree]

i do remember lots of harpoon talk in that one xD

[rotund rampart]

you know its good when its full of harpoons

[eternal spruce]

mini is a reincarnation of Myun, who was Neuros first collab partner, and if her best/childhood friend.

[misty tree]

i know that much, im just kind of lacking anything specific i can give her content wise that feels properly specific to her

[wild condor]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0NWv7HJV_c8&pp=ygUMTmV1cm8gbWluaWtv

They did a duet of Everything Goes On

[wild condor]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tzn1yAhZbOA&pp=ygUMTmV1cm8gbWluaWtv

They are also each other’s biggest fan/oshi

And this was a clip that is referenced occasionally https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=clSQ8BL8EeU&pp=ygURTmV1cm8gMTAgdGluIGNhbnM%3D

[proud smelt]

How do i message a mod? 😛
Wanna be sure an asset doesnt break the rules

[nimble dew]

When I randomly caught Vedal talking about also having drones I was like "wait what?"...
"Remnants of the Past" also doesn't give you a lot of option besides fighting some kind of old enemy or using or collecting old things...
I feel a lot of us are doing similar things.

[rotund rampart]

I'm doing none of the above

[misty tree]

ive messaged alex questions here and there, tho idk if that means thats fine xD what sort of asset we talking about?

[misty tree]

yea im doing a post apocalyptic scenario where all the people are gone now but there really isnt many other directions to take it

[nimble dew]

What are you trying to say? "I'm better than you"? "I'm ignoring the theme"?

[proud smelt]

I assume Alex is busy cause he is making his own game 😛

I drew Anny but her underwear is kind of visible in her model
And i know underwear is against the rules of neurocord
So i wanna know if i have to hide it or something

[misty tree]

ah

well if its like, just how her model is, that shouldnt be a problem

[atomic stream]

im struggling to think of anything that doesnt involve that 😭

[proud smelt]

You can make a game about cleaning all the left overs from last week that are roting on filian´s table 😛

[atomic stream]

lmfao

[proud smelt]

Clean the remnants of the past! 😮

[atomic stream]

only other thing i can think of is something related to time travel but idk how to incorporate it well

[nimble dew]

Like The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages

[misty tree]

i asked chatgpt to see if it had any weirder ideas, this is the only one that stood out a bit:
Ruins of the First Neuro-sama
Neuro-sama discovers the remnants of an earlier AI prototype—a glitchy, decayed version of herself. The game revolves around her attempts to "resurrect" this forgotten version or learn from its failures.

[nimble dew]

"Remnants of the Past" being something trivial as garbage or just stuff still lying around is a good idea.
Here I give you another one since I'm not sure what to do with it: I was thinking of there being some psychological trauma caused by something in the past that still has effects.

[proud smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/psst-doors-roblox-roblox-memes-doors-game-gif-26513896

Make a game called remnants of the psst psst psst

[rotund rampart]

that there's more options than what was listed without telling exactly what I'm doing, sorry if that felt like a jab at you

[proud smelt]

As neuro would say

[atomic stream]

there was one more thing i thought of, youre probably gonna control drones in my game (which a lot of people also seem to be doing lol) so i thought maybe when a drone breaks you could use its pieces to build new drones... so youre using the remnants of your past drones to build more, but i think thats a bit of a stretch

i usually try to think of something related to the theme that affects the gameplay too, but its been quite hard to think of something interesting for this one that i could reasonably do

[pale iron]

Is no one making a game about neuro digging up dinosaur bones?

[rotund rampart]

tell me about it, my brain was stuck for 4 hours

[rotund rampart]

you can do it

[pale iron]

I am already making something else

[atomic stream]

make 2 games

[pale iron]

Can I submit more than one game or do I need another account?

[misty tree]

do you guys like my new start menu /s

[atomic stream]

lmfao

10/10

[tardy flint]

Works

[misty tree]

Its for my super original new game, "A Bandoned Rchive"

[lavish escarp]

ngl

neuro having sock up one leg and bare leg down the other design wise is a fucking godsend for the readability of animations

[balmy thunder]

I can tell based on what I’ve got so far that I probably do not have the skill required to complete my game in 3 days, it is what it is.

[rotund rampart]

lower your scope

[nimble dew]

Sounds like me tearing down my original idea that I worked on for like a week to then replace one day before the game jam with a much simpler game 😄

[balmy thunder]

The scopes not really the issue I’m just too slow

[rotund rampart]

lower your standards

or get help

[pale iron]

Don’t sleep and don’t procrastinate

[balmy thunder]

I’m against getting help because I feel like I’d be wasting other peoples time, this is my first game jam and I’m just trying too enjoy the time, don’t really care that much if the project isn’t done in time.

Anyways time for me to work on art for the next hour then so I can watch the stream tomorrow.

[dire ember]

Good luck!

[tardy flint]

Ok, I spent about 2 hours coding player movement and then 3 hours spriting...progress I guess! Time to nap

[frosty terrace]

I...
just finished cleaning my house

[violet grail]

welp, i wasted hours procrastinating

[misty tree]

happens

im gonna have to waste some hours sleeping soon

ive just been straight coding since jam started 💀

[rocky glen]

i just woke up, time to code ig

[balmy thunder]

I made the base Vedal sprite time for sleep

[proud smelt]

Wow, i can see how you game matches the theme 😛

[misty tree]

hehe

this is only half joking btw XD

im actually gonna name my game A Bandoned Rchive

[fleet goblet]

Lost Library

[median plume]

adding in ragdoll physics for just filian and only filian 💀

[misty tree]

but what about for vedal when colliding with filian

[rotund rampart]

Flip vedal over and push him with huge force upon the tiniest collision

[analog elbow]

when is the deadline for gamejam?

I now see the channel description

[rotund rampart]

57 hours and 22 minutes

[lavish escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/face-keyboard-gif-5776290

[fallen furnace]

Any1 got tips on how to not corrupt files if you have multiple people working on a Godot project using Git?

[fleet goblet]

Call dibs on the files that you are editing

[cerulean jetty]

Call dibs, work in different folders, have your code on branches.

[fleet goblet]

Yes to folders, but don't do branches!!

You'll just be postponing the inevitable

[austere island]

had a thought, if you added sound clips of the twins from the streams to your game, would that count as ai generated content?

[umbral adder]

You have unlocked new role

[austere island]

for the disclosure

[fleet goblet]

that's not really what the disclosure is there for

It's for people who abuse ai and just have copious amounts of ai generated code or art

[austere island]

okidoki

[cerulean jetty]

The code rule is exclusively there to make Vedal write code.

[frosty terrace]

He can no longer abandoned his archive

[lavish escarp]

i am god's perfect idiot

i spent 2 hours trying to troubleshoot an animator issue

THE FILE HAS A BIG U

IT SHOULD BE Run

THAT SIMPLE FUCKING THING HAS BEEN THE ISSUE FOR 2 HOURS

[tame rapids]

classic

[dire ember]

I am working on the game with someone who lives in the literal opposite time zone as me. We will stil have hours where we're both awake, but it's gonna be a funny game of tag experience

[lavish escarp]

there is a plausible chance im done with a rudimentary game within 50 hours

[alpine reef]

theres no way im making it in time lmao

I did a good bit of scripting but compared to a few hours ago it looks like the same game on the surface, no new content. I kinda figured this would happen so it's not too much of a letdown but hopefully some courageous soul or group of people will use Scratch (the GOAT) so that it gets some representation, which was my main goal, just having some people be like "Yooo, Scratch!"

I'll still try to see if I can whip something up tomorrow, 5 minutes worth of gameplay or something, but I'll most likely not make it in time for the game jam even if I set my expectations that low because I'll be going on a trip on Sunday.

I'm thinking of finishing the game at my own pace regardless, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4yYEzNiSuQ

[ornate belfry]

What happened to the assets channel for the game-jam?

[alpine reef]

everything you said was so damn relatable lmao

[cerulean jetty]

most basic software problem

[signal monolith]

god, forgive me for this

[snow merlin]

Classic 😆

[violet grail]

bad time to get grounded

[wispy dagger]

sleep deprived, head empty, loaded up on coffein
perfect day to code

[fallow adder]

does anyone know how i can make a better title ?

[rocky glen]

maybe change font

[forest star]

Add a Outline to the text of the title maybe

[rocky glen]

it's not bad tho

[fallow adder]

thanks for your advice

and i made the gear turn 🙂

[rocky glen]

nice

[slow meteor]

make it white (Poossibly with a ink outline) BC the value of the turquoise is too similar to that of the Pink

almost a perfect match

thats why it is so hard to see

[fallow adder]

oh i did not know this thanks

thanks it's good now

[slow meteor]

Doggo ~

[rotund rampart]

Interface

[rocky glen]

I'm about to loose making an asset for an house interior, does anybody know a place for good free assets?

[cerulean jetty]

ol' reliable.
https://kenney.nl/assets

[rocky glen]

thxx

[median plume]

there is no way i'm finishing this in time

if the game is set in the future and has flashbacks to the present-day... is that considered to be fitting the "remnants of the past" theme??

[rocky glen]

maybe?

sounds fine

[cerulean jetty]

I stretched themes thinner.

[tame rapids]

update #3

[elfin mortar]

Sheesh

[small radish]

i mean, if there's no "wear" above it can't be underwear in the first place so that's prob fine

[small radish]

there's a thread for assets but that's all i know about https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1316605675631022192

[void parcel]

looking good!

[slow meteor]

Epic.

[tacit herald]

Cool drones

[void parcel]

neuro with a gun scares me

[lavish escarp]

the game jam is on a date on which i need to travel

im gonna have an aneurysm trying to finish this bitch up

[void parcel]

i wouldnt recommend giving yourself an aneurysm

[hoary cargo]

is it bad that i want to see a doom mode where the doom slayer is replaced by neuro sama

[small radish]

better collision detection on neuro attacks than the mc neuro ai

[lavish escarp]

simpler tbf

[small radish]

true, the mc ai is kinda insane even with the shortcuts that had to be made

[uncut delta]

that looks really cool

[lavish escarp]

im cutting back on the scope

but

there is a real chance for this to work out well

[jagged iron]

someone have sound pack of vedal/neuro noises?

[brittle basin]

will the "clones" be Filter with green zombie eyes

[lavish escarp]

time to work on pixelart heavy shit

[rugged escarp]

hey guys.can I use stream clip as Art assets?

[void parcel]

to my knowledge, i believe anything from the streams you may use in the game jam (not outside the jam obviously)

[rugged escarp]

ok,thanks

[wispy dagger]

rachinova has a few, but they arent game spezific https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1E1AYmhOK0r1y2Ily0bX6-hzpx8le8PAg

[torpid bridge]

Our game is coming along nicely

That's all I'm gonna say

Y'all just gonna have to wait and see

[void parcel]

👀

[lavish escarp]

im dying

i shouldve stuck to 3d lol

[hoary cargo]

Doxxed something

lmao

[waxen wasp]

[wispy dagger]

yeah, cant concentrate with stream in the background

[waxen wasp]

i just check in every once in a while

[hoary cargo]

Let's pretend this is the first time I sent this:

Ahem, dual wielding the stream and game project... etc etc

[wispy dagger]

at least you got multiple monitors? i only got 1 xdx

[hoary cargo]

Yea, hooked up the third one this christmas

[waxen wasp]

we got the 3D stuff into the custom engine

[cerulean jetty]

Don't remind me that I need a third monitor.

[torpid hound]

btw what name have you guys chosen for your games?

[hoary cargo]

Fragments of Humanity

[waxen wasp]

secret

[copper ibex]

its a secret ( i don't have one )

[cerulean jetty]

Pending until we don't have a better one.

[tacit wasp]

For now, it's just "Neuro Game" lmao

[copper ibex]

i might not have a name but atleast the actual game is coming along...

[cerulean jetty]

Classic placeholder.

[hoary cargo]

Getting somewhere, too. Grid-Movement finally works and have some semblance of an UI

[potent walrus]

https://lp4.dev/GameplayTest2.mp4

[hoary cargo]

I just accidently deleted my movement code, just gone, lmao end me

[potent walrus]

lol

[wispy dagger]

worst thing about not using an engine is UI interaction

[cerulean jetty]

Best thing about Godot is the UI framework.

[copper ibex]

if you use vscode, it actually stores file versions everytime you save you can recover it from there

[nimble dew]

Three days is so little time... Unity makes some things so ridiculously difficult... Feels like I'm half the time just fighting Unity...
I might be able to get some kind of prototype done but it's tough.

[lavish escarp]

im glad its 3 days honestly, puts a cap on how much i can bloat the scope

i went from 5 gameplay features to 2

[copper ibex]

come to the dark side of godot. no compile time, rapid prototyping and hotloading

[cerulean jetty]

And we have web exports you can do 5-10 minutes before the jam ends.

[lavish escarp]

im gonna have a conniption tho ive been programming for

[nimble dew]

I feel just doing basic menus and some barely existing gameplay eats three days easily.

[lavish escarp]

about 15 hours

well programming and animating

and pixel art

and im die

on the bright side

[cerulean jetty]

basic menu is like up to 1h in Godot, and that includes theming and tweaking.

(setting up options, level selector etc)

[nimble dew]

Depends on how much you actually need and how much you copy paste.

Literally just did a Yates Row PR...

[lament ermine]

Spoiler for the game we're making

[prisma halo]

No git 🇱 🇱

[lament ermine]

*everything is WIP and may not be in the same state in release

[hoary cargo]

Nah, no time with my scope. Already rewritten the code tho, better and stronger

[frosty terrace]

godot crashed
what

[pulsar stag]

this is soo enigmatic that makes me want to play

[ember gorge]

Does anyone know if it's possible to get the instrumental for Neuro new song, Life?

[void parcel]

theres this version by chxi: #1316605675631022192 message

not sure about any others though

[cerulean jetty]

Full disclosure, the artist is on our team and we are using it too.

[sour horizon]

Hmm, I might have planned too much content

Got to speed things up a bit

[flint thicket]

The artist for the music video or the one that made the instrumental?

[tame rapids]

to those that develop in godot: remember to download export templates so that you won't have to worry about it half an hour before deadline

[cerulean jetty]

the midi

[royal jewel]

Why use LIFE when you could make your own custom songs?

[flint thicket]

Because Neuro theme

[copper ibex]

also. if you plan to make a web game in godot. make sure to test it out often to make sure all the features you are using work on web

[royal jewel]

Just make your own custom Neuro songs

[cerulean jetty]

Because the artist made a version that is a good fit for a bossfight.

I have a need.

[royal jewel]

Neuro RVC is a thing
And Evil RVC too

[cerulean jetty]

Also, If you do godot and want to export to the web, don't use c# and Godot 4. That does not work yet.

[tame rapids]

i'm making 3d game and their quality on web version are not particularly good so i'm going with only downloadable

[royal jewel]

We'll see how many games just end up using LIFE
Ours will certainly stand out if most just use LIFE

[tame rapids]

just making sure, you can use neuro covers in games, right?

[royal jewel]

Not sure, the songs themselves have copyright holders

Depends on the song probably

We're just using Neuro RVC to make our own stuff, so we're not gonna have to depend on any copyright stuff

[tame rapids]

i mean, why would that be a problem since game jam games are free and you have to give credit to assets you used anyway

[cerulean jetty]

Alex said that you can use them if you don't monetize. Covers were used last year too.
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/topic/4396248/vedalneuro-related-assets

[royal jewel]

Not all song publishers allow for usage of songs without special permission

[cerulean jetty]

But also use your best judgement.

[tame rapids]

exactly, no one monetizes game jam games

[royal jewel]

Anyway, what we're doing is probably the safest possible thing
(most of the team is doing at least something for the one single part that is the audio)

I'm handling the RVC for one of the parts

Pretty cool stuff

[snow merlin]

Yeah, at best you typically end up with something that could serve as a prototype for a real game you make post-jam, nothing that should be sold as a real game.

[brittle basin]

worse things have been sold on steam

[snow merlin]

true, true

I stand corrected; you should only treat it as a prototype, because it's bound to be rough 😉

[small radish]

not a lot of people know this but applying a rigidbody to a gameobject and instantiating new objects with a button input is considered one of the most advnanced things you can do in game dev and getting this far in 24 hours is actually a really good pace and i'm not fucked at all promise

[cerulean jetty]

And to be fair, that alone is something that can make a fun game.

[lethal egret]

That's me IRL Holy heck, I just sufferred the same thing just now

[torpid bridge]

Memory Lanes

[lethal egret]

We can do it It's looking good so far

[small radish]

hoping it does

[cerulean jetty]

Then there is we, who use the physics engine exclusively to detect when 2 things would overlap.

[lethal egret]

If it works, it's not stupid

[wispy dagger]

why does this chicken look so sus

[pulsar stag]

i would prob do that ngl
i hate when i see any game that has hair movements, but the hair in some animations goin inside the body

my obsessive behavior for perfectionism hits at these moments lol

[torpid bridge]

Our game is inspired by Medabots

[rocky glen]

at least you have your fighting system xdd

I'm cooked

[cerulean jetty]

You have something playable? xD

[pulsar stag]

[rocky glen]

I have a house, almost a character and maybeee a main menù

[pulsar stag]

im genuinly planning to do smth with horror and tension, with an ending that will prob make all of you laugh

should i go for it?

[rocky glen]

yeahh

[cerulean jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[torpid bridge]

Our game is mainly a surprise, but all I'm gonna show you is this

[wispy dagger]

i dont know what this has to do with remnants of the past, but it do be moving

[brittle basin]

hear me out, replace the bullets with Rum bottles

[small radish]

vedal would never throw away a bottle of rum so that's a no. but maybe some sort of powerup....

[pulsar stag]

but neuro would

neuro throws rum bottles and vedal idk

[tame rapids]

oh no, it's finally time for me to manage collision layers and masks in godot

[cerulean jetty]

That is not that bad.

[sage sapphire]

welp, time to use something other than life so I can also stand out

Also good morning everyone

[snow merlin]

Got some janky code in place for attaching Mods to Trash cards and modifying their stats, so now I just have to "just" implement the combat and drafting... Trying really hard to not overcomplicate and scope-creep... 🙃

[wispy dagger]

or dont use music and tell ppl to use their own music in the background

[calm sandal]

rate my nur

[sage sapphire]

let's gooo, another deck builder game

I'm also making one but interesting to see how others make it

[sage sapphire]

10/10 very cute

[calm sandal]

If someone wants to use her then go ahead

[royal jewel]

Make your own Neuro song

[sage sapphire]

already in the works tho I'm not the best singer considering neuro sounds horrible when I tried my voice. I'll have to figure out another way. otherwise I'll just make an original soundtrack without vocals

[royal jewel]

We're using the great SynthV pipeline that me and Wispers use for our covers, the most accurate Neuro we can possibly make

I know the optimal pipeline, so we might as well use it for our game

[sage sapphire]

Hmm I wonder if there's a free version I'm too broke for paid stuff atm

[royal jewel]

I was part of making the models, so I kinda know their characteristics better than many others

[royal jewel]

SynthV doesn't have a free version I think
So if you don't have it already and don't want to pay, you may want to figure out your voice or find a female accent-less base singer

[sage sapphire]

welp og soundtrack it is

or I could just do audio splicing

brb need to look for random neuro sounds

[hoary cargo]

Almost a third of the time over, and I ALMOST finished implementing movements and interactions... Still need to do Environments, Models, Textures, Sounds, UIs, Dialogue...

[cerulean jetty]

So many cards xD

Good thing we're real time, and can play it.

[hoary cargo]

If she can keep up. I made my movement turn-based just in case

[cerulean jetty]

It's still designed around that, she'll be able to keep up.

[hoary cargo]

Sounds nice, looking forward to seeing that

[royal jewel]

Even if she takes 10000000000000 seconds because she was essaying to something chat said?

[cerulean jetty]

That is the absolute edge case, but we have a safeguard for that too.

[royal jewel]

Interesting

[cerulean jetty]

Take "safeguard" very losely.

[royal jewel]

Well, I think our game will be adaptable to Neuro API
We're not that worried about it though

[void parcel]

if neuro is yapping:
tell_neuro("shut the fuck up")

[cerulean jetty]

The integration needs a bit more content to really test it.

[tame rapids]

if anyone is interested in unity neuro sdk, then vedal is currently doing it on stream

[royal jewel]

We're not focusing much on making sure the game is Neuro compatible
We're much more focused on our highlight features

Having me and the known good Neuro RVC pipeline me and Wispers use should be a pretty big buff

[void parcel]

48 hours left from now

[tame rapids]

DAY 1 IS NO MORE, WELCOME DAY 2

[cerulean jetty]

Only doing it because I wanted it and found a dev who wanted to code that. (actually coded a prototype as well)

[royal jewel]

Makes sense I guess

It's silly how 90% of our team is touching the audio side

[cerulean jetty]

90% of us are coders xD

[rotund rampart]

do we have any visual representation of the swarm?

[cerulean jetty]

Drones

[rotund rampart]

wanna trade?

[cerulean jetty]

IF any of you can fill in the role of a "lore master" (no need to be good, just better than us) then we're looking for one xD

[royal jewel]

Not really
We haven't even gotten to the 3rd stage of our massive dependency chain

[rotund rampart]

do you have any art needs? I just need a couple sound effects, keeping it barebones cause I have 0 sound people rn

[royal jewel]

Most have very SMOL roles
I do RVC
Wispers renders the SynthV tracks with the most optimal Neuro base voice

But the ones that actually have major roles are too busy to probably lend stuff

Either way, I know when we pull of what we're going for, it's going to be crazy cool

[misty tree]

dialogue system up and running 👀

[civic fractal]

Fixing up the song lyrics again

[misty tree]

(and yes i did make my dialogue draw staz whenever it detects the word vedal)

[lethal egret]

Why i'm coding the game with neuro on my ears?

[tame rapids]

update #4

time to work on new enemies

[lethal egret]

Looks very sick

[tame rapids]

thank you

[slow meteor]

✨ Custom Neuro Toilet ✨

✨ Custom Neuro Toilet✨

[mighty solstice]

hiiiii

i need some coder (godot)

[lethal egret]

GOTY! (It's good looking)

[tardy flint]

Lie down to rest my head for a couple of minutes
remember I only have less than 2 days to finish my game
get up in a panic
sprite for two hours with minimal coding
repeat process

[lethal egret]

You can do it

No matter how your game ends, if you make something "playable", it's already a super achievement

[lapis meadow]

I've realized I am artistically hopeless. Thus all my characters shall now be evil cubes

[pulsar stag]

epic

[pulsar stag]

i have no idea how to make a character
im hopeless doing pixel art

i just hope what i plan works

[potent walrus]

please rate my state xd https://lp4.dev/GameplayTest3.mp4

[tardy flint]

I grabbed some assets from another creator here and I'm altering them to fit my game, like editing the neuro sprite to be hiyori, adding a shooting, jumping animation etc

i was planning on using only my assets but asset making takes too much time

[small radish]

just draw a lil guy in low quality and it's technically pixel art

[tardy flint]

no issue in using assets during a gamejam

[copper ibex]

actually managed to make some decent progress day 1.
mostly just the unit AI and visuals. (the gymbag and mech sprites are from: #1316605675631022192 message )

[pulsar stag]

[pulsar stag]

AI invasion theme? epic

imagine neuro as final boss

[misty tree]

😄 glad to see people makin use of those

[copper ibex]

basically a post-apocalypse theme. my game's theme is after neuro already took over the world. like thousands if not 10's of thousands of years afterwards.
hopefully i'll have time to had a small cinematic at the start/end of my game to explain a bit more

[past meadow]

Our game jam discussion board
(It is more substantial by now, but I don't want to spoil anything)

[rocky glen]

how are you guys doing?

[tardy flint]

Debating whether I should fix an annoying bug that causes the whole character sprite to move forward when the sprite is more spacious (like when hair is flowing compared to standing still hair) or to just ignore it for now...

the idle animation also causes the player to move 1 pixel off the ground...in my sprite editor the sprites are all in the exact same spot, never had to deal with this issue in unity before

[wispy dagger]

if the bug isnt fiyable in 5min just make a note and move on

[signal monolith]

I'm making my game almost the whole day and I'm pretty happy with my progress ❤️

[royal jewel]

Mostly just waiting for when my part comes up

[signal monolith]

playing minecraft for 30 hours?

[rocky glen]

I'm making my game the whole day too, its fun xd

it's not gonna be finished anytime soon tho lol

[signal monolith]

small preview, lol

[rocky glen]

i like it

it's going really well i see!

[prisma halo]

installing unity

[rocky glen]

damn

[verbal garnet]

By the way, wanted to share some progress but discord does not allow me to attach files (i.e. screenshot) here, why so?

I guess newbie badge does the job

[signal monolith]

You get perms after typing a lot

[royal jewel]

I left it on over night finalizing an autocraft on my modded server

(my PC runs in a server configuration)

[verbal garnet]

I see, lol.

[charred hamlet]

bit of a longshot, but does anyone have a voice clip of neuro saying "dink donk"?

[verbal garnet]

Alright, so I decided to finally try out odin-lang and raylib for the first time, learn it and have some fun, probably? And dedicated the weekend for that. Though it was not easy to begin with, I eventually got it all working. So here's my progress today: https://ibb.co/j52VWpZ

[signal monolith]

bruh

[royal jewel]

If you need some sort of Neuro voice line, there is always the possibility of either using Azure Ashley or Neuro RVC V11 to make it synthetically

[snow merlin]

Starting to look a bit more like a game now, got some basic auto-battler code up and running. Now I "just" need to finish the drafting and deck-building, as well as a set of proper opponents/levels... It would be fun to expose the drafting to Neuro, but I'll probably won't have time for that during the jam, especially since I'm still operating with mostly placeholder art...

[lavish escarp]

found a way to generate walls easier, without needing to manually build all the clipping and colliders

might be able to successfully build up the game levels in time

[signal monolith]

default unity clear color is so iconic tbh

[lavish escarp]

this is my first game

probably wasnt the best idea to build a game for the first time in a game jam

[signal monolith]

Sorry, I'm not making fun of you, it just brings back memories

[signal monolith]

It's a pretty good idea, it's a firendly jam, no real prizes, no real pressure

[lavish escarp]

oh dw lol i didnt take it that way im more like "its my first game so i had no clue it was"

[snow merlin]

You gotta start somewhere. And remember, 72 hours is not a long time, so most of our entries will be pretty shitty, and it's an accomplishment just being able to submit anything. 😉

Especially as a solo dev.

[signal monolith]

It's my first game jam, I hope to atleast release something because most games I make end up in a bin

[lavish escarp]

i tried working on games before but i ended up getting stuck and procrastinating, 72 hours is actually helping a lot cuz it means my scope is forced short and i cant procrastinate

[royal jewel]

True
72 hours is not much
But still enough to make a song

[snow merlin]

Yeah, I have a problem never finishing anything. Gamejams gives me a time limit, and makes it so I can't get stuck overthinking. This is my 5th(?) gamejam, but only managed to submit in two of them.

[snow merlin]

Exactly, you are forced to cut-down scope, and not over-think things. 🙂

[lavish escarp]

its unironically the furthest ive got in a game project

[fringe star]

yo guys, do you think tutorial stuff is required?

[signal monolith]

you can always give controls in game description on itchio

[snow merlin]

It depends. Remember, people will be rating the game, and likely won't spend much time with each game, so at-least in-game instructions/help can be a benefit for ratings.

[snow merlin]

Ideally, it's probably better with a pop-up in-game, as many people rating won't read the description on itchio in my experience. It doesn't have to be pretty though.

[royal jewel]

We might have the Neuros explaining things in the game integrated with the story

Power of Neuro RVC

[mighty solstice]

Can i make a demo game for the jam?

[hazy totem]

yeah

it doesnt have to be complete

[nimble dew]

Won't it all be kinda demo / prototype games? 😉 Unless you have a short story to fully tell.

[hazy totem]

i mean thats how abandoned archive came alive

[civic fractal]

Finally, it is time to CRFB

[arctic river]

YOOO ur doing the game jam?
i'm looking forward to see what u make

[slow meteor]

Yeess! Im so heccin hyped >.<

Well see what we`ll cook. Were all newbies in my group but boi i think we brewin (if we manage to finish in time haha).

Im excited to see what your team is comming up with (i am behind on the vod)

[misty tree]

should i be spending time on these particle effects at this point? probably not.
would I do it again? absolutely!

[arctic river]

you're gonna do great, i hope you all have a lot of fun :D

[slow meteor]

You too

And to everyone else as well!

[slow meteor]

Last years was already super cute, youre gonna rock this year !

[arctic river]

[slow meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-too-cute-adorable-head-pat-cute-gif-17246426

U got this. I believe in you!

[rocky glen]

life

after this we are going to have learned sooo much tho

[wispy dagger]

for 3 days you can keep most of the code in your head. if you have to return in a few month to it, youd be screwed XD

[rocky glen]

fr

[civic fractal]

That was me with jam project from last year

[sour horizon]

Progress: Added some cutscenes

[lethal egret]

I am so cooked

[austere island]

i hadn't looked at the dev streams and now see veedahl is doing a turn based grid based combat game with a post apocalyptic setting which is what i'm doing and people are going to think i just copied him

[proud smelt]

As i draw Toma Layna and Anny i notice that all of them have super long legs 😛

[proud smelt]

Is that the robodog killing someone?! 😮

[misty tree]

dont worry bout that, im sure theres gonna be many of those

[void parcel]

you can have a game in the exact same genre as another and both games be completely unique and interesting in their own rights. i wouldnt worry about it as long as ur trying ur best 👍

[proud smelt]

The game were neuro helps Filian clean the rotten remnants of her meal is still up for grabs! 😛

[signal monolith]

vedal's game looked like this yesterday

[proud smelt]

There are a lot of games in the same genre out there 😛
Most important thing is, the game should be fun 😛

[signal monolith]

leauge of legends players would disagree

[proud smelt]

League is fun, its just that the players arent 😛

[sour horizon]

Nah, he's just sleeping 🙂

[nimble dew]

I'm thinking about giving up. I made a bunch of progress but I have no idea how to make the basic gameplay loop fun. I had my idea only a day before the game jam, I worked on a different idea before that but threw it away because that was just not doable in three days.
My current idea is kinda like a JRPG with drones and the fun was supposed to come from picking and equipping/upgrading units depending on the challenge that awaits you but that just requires too much complexity and too much thinking. Maybe if I would have had the idea earlier and already worked on some needed UI stuff... Like it took me easily an hour just to get a scrollable text box working in Unity and it's still wonky.

[lethal egret]

Is not only about the looks.... but thank you

[tacit wasp]

Don't worry too much about it, mine still looks a black void with a few circle left and right and a few texts

[nimble dew]

I could maybe get some super shallow game done but I don't think it would be fun.
Although I feel most games will be like that.

[lethal egret]

I understand... I am on the same page as you.
There's still another option to aproach the JAM.
Instead of creating a game in 3 days, you can design one in those 3 days. Is another way to have fun and not overcook yourself

But no matter what you do, you can do it (I hope... )

[tacit wasp]

Honestly I'd say go for it anyway
The feedback you'll get from the game could help you understand how to make the game loop better imo
I also have doubts about the game loop of my game but I'm still gonna go through with it anyway especially because it's too late to change anyway

[nimble dew]

The thing is I kinda know what I want and that I just can't do it in the time. Maybe if I would have planned ahead more.

[snow merlin]

Consider that just finishing something is an achievement in itself. If you have a working gameplay loop, that's pretty impressive for 72 hours. I have no delusions that my game will actually be "fun" at the end of the jam, much less polished or balanced. I'm just trying to finish something that's technically a game, and includes the most important parts of my design. If it's got potential, I'll rewrite the entire thing later, and treat it just as a prototype.

[lethal egret]

The problem is... this is a game jam. This is supposed to be "done" in those 3 days.
I'd say do what you can and expand the game later. The fact that you cooked something is already good

[snow merlin]

Don't compare yourself with seasoned jammers, or people entering as complete teams. Just getting something working is great for a solo novice gamejammer

72 hours is really not that much time

[lethal egret]

If you somehow got a "game", be proud of yourself

[tacit wasp]

Honestly, 20 hours ago, I thought to myself "Hey, it's actually not that bad. I still got time"
Now I'm realizing that it is pretty bad actually

[lethal egret]

Yeah... my head is like: how do i do this? It's already been more than 24 hours

[small radish]

what a day of troubleshooting does to a mf

[civic fractal]

I agree with this, if you got a loop. Most of the time that is enough.

[bright raven]

It would be really nice if Neuro could make game actions while TTS was active. Her ability to be strategic in our game is limited since we need to give her as much time as possible

[civic fractal]

I had a massive difficulty curve issue, granted that could have been better.

[lethal egret]

Okey. I think it's better if i go to bed. I'll continue tomorrow and... if i don't find it feasible to finish.. at least i could say, it was a good run

[bright raven]

We have some time on the following day too.

[lavish escarp]

i may have dun goof'd

[signal monolith]

I'm planning on finishing my game after I sleep today(it's 1am for me, waking up at 10am) and do some final testing and polishing on the last day

[small radish]

my idea for getting around this was to give neuro a supportive role to vedal who'd be playing. So vedal would be steering and shooting etc but could ask neuro to do things like asking for "more power to shields" and she'd have the option to change the configuration of power to shields-thrusters-weapons.

Though not sure if that would work since she'd need to have the option to change the configuration open to her at all times and only act on it when she felt like it. Don't know if that would work with the sdk. Maybe have vedal press a button to open up the option for neuro to change the settings or smth?
Doesn't matter now though. Won't have time to implement it and it's not like i understand how any of it works anyways

[bright raven]

You can do that part post-jam if you want.

Our challenge is that it's a Neuro vs Vedal game with Vedal playing in real time.

Our team is really living up to their name of "Vadul Blamers"

[tacit wasp]

I think if I can implement the SDK, the game will have two modes, the real time mode and a more mistake-based mode where there's no real time so Neuro can make her choices easily
The second mode might be easier to humans but hey, it won't be a "Neuro Mode" for nothing

Obviously it'll be after the jam tho

[autumn whale]

i love doing unclean data structures with excessive casting

[median plume]

that moment when you have the schedule planned out for the day and then someone comes in and throws a wrench in things 😔 now i have no time to work on my game

[calm sandal]

https://streamable.com/e2py39

It ain't much but it's an honest work

[nimble dew]

Here is my current status including the working title. Everything outside the "board" is just an imported demo scene. On the last day I wanted to add various effects and make a nicer surrounding around the "arena" by using those external assets and adapted demo stuff.
You can see a bit of a damage system going on with a partially done round based combat system with elements and elemental reactions. Each drone is like a skill in an RPG.
I don't even know that I did in those like 29 hours so far. Found a drone and some other assets. Adapted and imported them. Did those menus. Fought with the scrolling combat log window thing in the bottom left. Fought with the UI skin and a bunch of other things. Hm.
My idea was to have a lot of fights ("stages") and you being able to get and upgrade drones after each fight.
Unity has a particle/effect demo where I in theory could have maybe copied a bunch of fitting effects over and adapted it to have actual attack effects.
But I just have no idea how to make the core gameplay. It's too complex and requires too much thinking. Also I need more complex UI stuff with unit selection, upgrading, passive skills, ... Judging by how long I needed for everything so far there is no way to finish that.

[small radish]

i might try to honestly, but i got a lot of uni stuff that needs to be done by the 10th/15th of jan so I might have to put that on the backburner
and things on the backburner rarely leave the backburner ngl

[nimble dew]

I think I spent more time on that scrolling text view than on the combat system... Skinning the UI drained so much of my sanity and motivation. So much time wasted on things that should be much easier. So much depends on what you did before and how much you can copy over from earlier projects or demos. Coming up with an idea in three days that fits well to the theme is already tough unless you kinda squeeze it into a not really fitting existing idea like I tried to.