2023-game-jam

[feral quarry]

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[deft kayak]

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The game jam page is available on itch.io https://itch.io/jam/neurosama-birthday-game-jam
It will take place between <t:1703790000:F> and <t:1704049200:F>

You will have 72 hours to work on the game, Neuro will announce the theme at the start of the game jam.

Use this channel and/or the forum on itch.io to look for team members, ask questions, or stuff like that idk

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[jovial sparrow]

wow amazing good job alex

[open fossil]

Neato

you have 48 hours to work on the project

Make you own game?

[jovial sparrow]

yes

[proper palm]

[scarlet portal]

[open fossil]

🤔 🔫

Okay

Time to make a minecraft clone in 24 hrs

[oak pilot]

inb4 15 Anny Parables

[vivid glade]

Make Nuro Clicker

[rigid stag]

I just hope the game jam aligns with my time at this point its a flip of the coin

[finite kraken]

i suggest fumos for the winners

[crimson latch]

good luck gamers

[vestal owl]

I left my tablet at school

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/895588191086706698.gif?size=48&name=superpain&quality=lossless

[vivid wharf]

[rain folio]

I learned some unity by having a system to tell me how to do things lol... I made like overworld map and movable thing indicating party... plus tiles acting as obstacles

my coding knowledge is so outdated that these new fangled coding methods are so complex

[mental yew]

i want to learn godot and get out of the tutorial hell

[feral quarry]

make game and google what u don't know

[rain folio]

I have found gpt-4 quite good for teaching coding... like having it to tell how to do something... then learn from it... it just takes effort

[jolly sinew]

can i learn python and make the game before it ends you guys think?

i only know pascal

[feral quarry]

it's a double edged sword, it often makes mistakes and does stuff suboptimally, which is very detrimental if you're learning
it's easy to end up relying on it without actually understanding what it is GPT is suggesting
(i learned how to program C from GPT and while helpful, it sent me down many unnecessary pitfalls)

[rain folio]

yeah, of course... part of the learning is trying to understand it further ^^

GPT indeed does some weird coding at times

for me one notable thing how nowadays coding works is that you don't simply do like health(1) = 100 to have index for your variable

[strong falcon]

So it feels obvious, but i need to ask:

"Game needs to run in a browser or in Windows without installation"

Does that mean Scratch is allowed? Scratch runs in a browser with no installation

[prisma bobcat]

Don't see why scratch wouldn't be allowed

[feral quarry]

"Games submitted must be done through itch.io for rating."
i'm not sure how to interpret this line @proper palm ?

[rain folio]

I think it means you submit the game to itch.io...

[strong falcon]

Because several people before said it wouldnt be allowed so "Only people who know what they're doing are submitting games"

[prisma bobcat]

Disagree, scratch is a valid game engine like any other.

[strong falcon]

Likewise, some folks have made genuinely impressive stuff in it and i like to work with limitations

[proper palm]

they need to be submitted through itch.io so scratch games probably won't work

[jovial sparrow]

pretty sure theres a "scratch to html" converter

[proper palm]

idk, if you can submit it through itch.io then its fine ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strong falcon]

There is, you can also convert them to python fairly easily

[proper palm]

that being said both unity and unreal offer very good visual editors

[waxen loom]

godot also works for web!

[proper palm]

[candid mason]

I'm back for the game jam.

I gotta DM some people about getting a team together

[strong falcon]

I wanted to die the last time i tried Unity and it asked me to download like 80 gigabytes worth of stuff lmao

[prisma bobcat]

Don't forget this though

For some reason Godot web stuff just doesn't work without it

[jovial sparrow]

godot is only like 50mb

[south swallow]

I'm looking for an artist to team up with

[vestal owl]

embrace programmer art

[south swallow]

I'd like to make something nice

plus it will eat my time

[strong falcon]

Train an AI on emotes

[prisma bobcat]

Im gonna post a bunch of my art for use on game jam soon hope that helps

[south swallow]

cool

I'd still like to have someone for anything special that might be needed

[gray musk]

I'm gonna make a Google drive of neuro soundbites for anyone to freely use if needed

[south swallow]

I don't really have any special requirements, just be available during the game jam, and be comfortable with whichever style you like working with

[south swallow]

that's nice

[gray musk]

I'll work on it once my shift finishes

[analog sierra]

I'm unironically gonna use scratch

[south swallow]

I saw crazy scratch stuff

honestly scratch is too difficult for me

The advanced stuff I mean

like the recursion works complely differently

some of the variables are shared between scopes (sometimes?)

But, I mean, it's Turing complete

so

[strong falcon]

Same, i'm gonna experiment with uploading some of my earlier games to Itch to see if that works

[strong falcon]

I mean, Neuro's voice you can get from Microsoft

Tutel's voice will be more difficult

[proper palm]

we already have one

https://nuero.fun/noises

[gray musk]

Pog

[proper palm]

Game jam will start on <t:1703790000:F> and end on <t:1704049200:F>

[dense reef]

turtle must do everything in the noon
never in the morning...

[glossy gazelle]

hi, does anyone know if there is a team size limit?

[dense reef]

not that i can see

[strong falcon]

Oh god it starts on the 28th for me, i have to finish a big work project on the 28th so i literally have to work before work

At least its the evening so i can dedicate my time fully to it

[frosty mantle]

There is no limitation on team size

[rigid stag]

What is the timezone? Gmt?

[prisma bobcat]

Fairly certain discord automatically should set it to your time zone

[proper palm]

yes that time is displayed in your timezone

[rigid stag]

Thanks that makes sense as that time is standard streaming time

[candid mason]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/636040/Pixel_Worlds_MMO_Sandbox/&ved=2ahUKEwiyj4PIka-DAxWQVqQEHXpdDzgQFnoECBsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw09vPcNRlZNHfTJi6rHhcdj Let's take over this game and make it ours lol

[frosty mantle]

I don't think you can submit anything from there as the standalone product.

[dusky knoll]

i hope i can invest extra hand of mine into this project

[novel rampart]

Hope I can finish my game within the time limit

[gray musk]

Make sure to time manage and get lots of sleep all 💜

[wooden coral]

can i make a neuro game in under an hour and post it in the game jam

[agile kite]

speedrun

[frosty mantle]

Yes, as long as you made it for the jam in the timeframe outlined before

[wanton holly]

Man I wish I could join the game jam

[little finch]

I can join but I wouldn't know what to work on, code side idk anything but I might be able to help with UI layouts

[feral robin]

im so excited! i hope it wont be too hard to find a team, ive always done jams alone this looks like the perfect chance to change that

[gleaming ledge]

[wanton holly]

I can do art as a contribution

[bright dome]

i wonder what category neuro is going to choose

[frosty mantle]

You can actually do networking in this channel. Just let people know your skills OR if you need someone in your team.

[tepid gate]

You can put me in your team just so it looks like you have friends and you can do all the work and I'll take the credit

[eager nova]

sounds like what a friend would do tbh

[fading mirage]

<t:1703678520:R> relative time stamps fun

[sullen kernel]

fun

[young solar]

I'll gladly help out with art and ideas if anyone is interested, don't think I could learn enough to make a game myself but I enjoy the process

I've been doing spritework for the TBoI mod and random pokémon sprites if that interests anyone

[little finch]

How fun, this game jam ends just 1 hour before new year for me

[radiant spade]

How does the game jam works

[fading mirage]

^ just to basically add to this, the timestamp shown is in line with the timezone your PC is set to.

[tepid gate]

Mmm I should start watching game design stuff

[tepid gate]

Rules here https://itch.io/jam/neurosama-birthday-game-jam

[radiant spade]

Ok thanks

[bright dome]

people who organize gamejam give you theme and then you (solo or in team) make game, but you have to make it in time limit

[feral robin]

how does it work to make teams in this kind of context? we just all say what we can do/our ideas and then hope for the best?

[stone pendant]

I went through a period where I was making pixel art bushes so if you want a pixel art bush for your game lmk 💀

[tepid gate]

When Neuro announces the game theme is bushes

[stone pendant]

My time will have come. I will be prepared.

[tepid gate]

Think it would be good to have a forums type channel for the game jam so people looking for teams can post their projects and what they need

[gleaming ledge]

if i have time and saw what the theme is maybe ill post art asset dump for training in #1186309471631315077 maybe with a tad bit of salt

i can do basic 16x16 pixel art

[tepid gate]

I do wonder if Neuro is gonna be super random

Or just
A game about Vedal

[prisma bobcat]

What I think is gonna happen is Neuro first makes a theme that makes no sense as a game jam theme, so Vedal has to ask again, but people make games based on the first theme anyways, so we get two different types of themes

[fiery merlin]

Life hack if you're bad at art: just make one of those games where the player has to draw every new object they come across

[small coral]

odd decision to make it at the new year's eve

[frosty mantle]

Perfect

[ripe summit]

perfect time to make it as stressful as possible

[half raft]

surely it'll be a fun...event...what could go wrong?

[deft kayak]

who up jammin they game

in ~29 hours

[ripe summit]

if anyone needs a godot programmer, i'll be happy to join a team (found one)

[dense reef]

mfw neuro asks for a visual novel

[frosty mantle]

It supposed to be a theme, not a genre

[dense reef]

mfw neuro asks for a romance game with vedal

actually vedal would pass that

[half raft]

do we have a limite for number of ppl in a team?

[frosty mantle]

No

[pearl patio]

anyone doing their game in GMS2 ?

[candid mason]

Accept my friend request

https://tenor.com/view/staring-black-man-staring-black-men-staring-black-men-men-staring-gif-25096788

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Wait CJ are you joining the game jam?

[frosty mantle]

Yes, I do

[candid mason]

[south swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-black-man-staring-black-men-staring-black-men-men-staring-gif-25096788

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[open fossil]

Staring black man

Literally me

[muted cargo]

What if you won't be allowed to use godot ?

[frosty mantle]

Why?

[muted cargo]

Because surely everyone will be developing their game in scratch

[dense reef]

its neurover

[prisma bobcat]

or in "scratch" with graphics libraries

[open fossil]

Download video game engine

Look inside

Scratch

[dense reef]

building a game engine but its literally an engine with neuro inside

[strong badge]

What is this madness.

LFT, I want to participate.

You can put me in your team just so it looks like you have friends and you can do all the work and I'll take the credit
I'll aim for this one.
Can do balancing/testing/minor pixel tweaks and any design decisions.
Learned C# at uni, but didn't write a line for years already, so, at most I can understand what's going on.
My only art related experience is pixelating this: #canvas message
Basically, your standard Armchair Expert
Gonna free up all 72h, languages: Eng, Rus.

[safe zinc]

Do I need to "join jam" on the website to help someone even if its just testing and design input?

[limpid tapir]

Hi ! I'm in search of a Team. I want to use this game jam to learn !
I have experience in programming (c++/java/python/(node)js/rust) but mostly did not touch the game making part
I let you chose what engine/tools to use, as I want to learn new things.
Usually awake from <t:41400:t> to <t:7200:t> (may change a little bc of subathon)
I'm not an English native, so sometimes my English will look strange. I'm sorry for that.

[south swallow]

only the actual submitter needs to be joined
you can join but it's not necessary

[placid vessel]

Joining the Jam just lets you submit a final game, don't think anyone's going to mind if you're in a team otherwise

[reef hearth]

Aw, man. It's tempting to join. Unfortunately, I haven't touched code in years and I don't wanna miss out on streams

[frank plover]

theres a "community" tab on the game jam page but doesnt seem to be used yet

[tepid gate]

ahh

[candid mason]

C++ Programmer spotted

Dmed

[strong tree]

Had an idea for a game last night that I can't stop thinking about, so now I'm just waiting for Neuro to give a theme that totally wouldn't work with that idea at all

[candid mason]

Watch it be something really specific

[candid mason]

I have neuro on in the background like 24/7 right now

Good noise while I work

[frozen heron]

Am artist, and programmer. Used to unity, c++, blender, krita. Currently learning unreal. Am open to joining a team.

[strong tree]

I'm jealous of people who can code with streams on, I find them too distracting to think

[frozen heron]

You end up just turning the stream into bg noise

Or getting distracted every two minutes

[deep delta]

i'm going to do this even though i have no clue what i'd make it in

[candid mason]

Btw

I think I already said it, but if anyone wants to join my team DM me. It'll be based on unreal, but you don't need experience in it (def helps though), any skills you have will probably be helpful tbh).

[candid mason]

Basically

[strong tree]

It's always the latter for me haha, so I'm a lofi or silence dev

[deep delta]

& that i have no art skills

[ripe summit]

using unreal? thats brave

[deep delta]

fr

[frozen heron]

For art you don't use your thinking brain so it's great

[candid mason]

Gotta have knowledge in something if you wanna try. Otherwise you'll quickly just get dissapointed I learned that the hard way...

[deep delta]

i can program

[frozen heron]

It is also a good way to learn. Failing, that is.

[candid mason]

Blender & unreal

[deep delta]

but that's like

it

[candid mason]

Trueeeeeeeeeee

[frozen heron]

Sup

[candid mason]

Bro programming is a big deal.

[deep delta]

by programming i mean the syntax

[candid mason]

Gonna DM you

[frozen heron]

Aye

[deep delta]

not the philosophy

i don't think i spelled tha correclty

[candid mason]

Copying and pasting

[frozen heron]

In a game jam you have no time to do anything properly anyways

[deep delta]

true

i'm probably going to use C++

[frozen heron]

And since the time span is short, no long term planning!

[deep delta]

i would do javascript but i'd probably be yelled at if i don't have both a windows and web build

so if i use SDL & C++ i can port to em and msvc

dude i have to reinstall fucking msvc

shit

[frozen heron]

SDL?

[deep delta]

yea

[frozen heron]

You gonna write it from scratch

No engine

[deep delta]

i forgot everything about sdl but i'm sure i can re-figure it out

[deep delta]

i never learned unity or unreal

i've never done a game jam either so this either is going to go awful and it's not going to be finished

or it's going to be lackluster (which is ok)

[frozen heron]

It's not super hard, just attach scripts to things and watch

[deep delta]

don't have time to learn

[frozen heron]

In unity, at least

SDL is gonna be hard so good lucj

[deep delta]

i've learned that you will automatically lose a chance of success by not porting your application

by watching people fail

[candid mason]

i wonder if i should dust off my old dos framebuffer game engine and make something...

[deep delta]

excited to see what the theme is

[south swallow]

I'm looking for an experienced chatter

[cursive dawn]

You have unlocked new role

[frozen heron]

Experienced... Chatter?

[south swallow]

yes

[feral quarry]

Wdym by that??

[frozen heron]

Like, an extrovert? Here?

[south swallow]

I meant twich chat chatter

[feral quarry]

What makes one experienced?

[fiery merlin]

Must have 5 years of shitposting experience

[frozen heron]

Lmao

[south swallow]

have you experienced chatting?

[feral quarry]

I have 18 years of online chatting experience

[south swallow]

good

would you like to join our game jam team?

this is exactly that we're looking for

[frozen heron]

Man's cooking... Something

[feral quarry]

okay i'm leaking DM's, but to those that are interested
man's looking for someone who can do:

"support tasks, such as playtesting, creating instructions / descriptions for the game, stuff like that
looking for useable sound effects (licensed CC0 or BY)"
no full time attention necessary type of stuff

it helps people join if you're more clear on what you want/expect 👍

[frozen heron]

Sound designer and level designers are going to be rarer, huh?

[full swift]

its like those companies who hire you for 1 thing then keep adding tasks which have nothing to do with what you were hired for

[stone pendant]

Hello Game Jammers!
I can make a pixel art bush
(1 bush)
I can write a really decent essay (failed English major)
and I can provide EPIC moral support!
(Epic!)

[feral quarry]

can i have a pixel art bush? i'd love to use it for my game

[stone pendant]

Okay bet

[deep delta]

i can write a short sentence

like

a yelp review

"Food was good."

feel free to use that in your game

[frank plover]

can i have a pixel bush just as a pet

[stone pendant]

i will post the bush here.

feel free to use bush

bush.

[frozen heron]

I will take this bush... AND I WILL EAT IT!

[deep delta]

send video proof

[strong tree]

Would be a fun easter egg thing if every team incorporated the bush somehow

[frank plover]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-our-now-gif-10391955707070564011

lET me post the bugs bunny communism image discord

[frozen heron]

Lol

[ripe summit]

btw i don't think you need a build for both windows and web.. either one is good

[deep delta]

web build

[frozen heron]

Am on linux, will make my team build it so I don't have to

[candid mason]

could always cross compile it

[cobalt inlet]

if only I knew how to gamejam

[frozen heron]

If I must

[deep delta]

make a 3d scratch project

[south swallow]

are you available during the jam time window?

[frozen heron]

Enter panic mode, exit panic mode, mission complete

[cobalt inlet]

yeah pretty much, apart from the last 1 hour (new year stuff)

[cobalt inlet]

[south swallow]

yea makes sense

[cobalt inlet]

ostium typing

[candid mason]

Ok I'm taking a break from DMing new people and the people who are joining

So far I'm up to 9.
I'll be back in an hour or two

Ok now make that 10 people

[deft kayak]

[strong falcon]

Ostium here building an AA studio from scratch

[ripe summit]

holy

[candid mason]

It's just 10 people

[frosty mantle]

Just 10 people for a game jam

[candid mason]

Ok when you put it like that

[umbral stratus]

team name: "Automatic merge failed"

[prisma bobcat]

Don't think we have the right to say anything about that

[strong falcon]

Daily reminder that No Mans Sky was made by 15 people

Just to put it in context

[red sinew]

Hey everyone, anyone made a team yet?

[frosty mantle]

Oh...

[frozen heron]

Frick I never used GitHub properly

[ripe summit]

making no man sky for a neuro gamejam

[candid mason]

Why do you ask? Are you looking to join one?

[red sinew]

I'm thinking about it :)

[candid mason]

Feel free to DM me

Damn that was fast

[fiery merlin]

if anyone's using some flavor of game maker I could join, not sure how much time I'll have but surely it's fine

[clear burrow]

Hi, do they give free games and jam here?

[strong falcon]

People are already schizoing and panicking and we dont even know what we're supposed to make yet

[boreal onyx]

it definitely would be interesting to see how things play out

[candid mason]

I know your secret

[tiny laurel]

Can’t wait for Neuro to say ddlc style games

[gleaming stirrup]

me too

[strong falcon]

I'm dropping out if she does

[candid mason]

imagine if she said mmorpg dungeon crawler game

[prisma bobcat]

Neuro: Make a light novel where ... <insert full xqc, forsen, and asmonbald knight lore>

[frozen heron]

Lmao

Ddlc style games would be interesting, though

[prisma bobcat]

We're all gonna have to speedrun Ren'py

[boreal onyx]

not 2 people writing a 10 hour long dialogue in the span of 2 days

[frozen heron]

[strong falcon]

Oh god imagine she wants an MMO
Anyone got a spare 5 million dollars to set up the infrastructure?

[grim fjord]

*3 days.. I think

[boreal onyx]

fair but does that make it any better

[frozen heron]

The no man's team to the rescue

[prisma bobcat]

did it

[normal drift]

Just fake it like no man's sky (did it at first) lol

[strong falcon]

Based Man's Sky approach:

-Deliver shit át the end of the Gamejam

• Slowly patch in the features you promised over the course of five years

[tough kindle]

If I made a game it would just be pong

[brazen marlin]

Do it

[frozen heron]

I mean, neuro is an AI so she will be surrounded with her people

[strong falcon]

Replace the ball with and its Neuro themed

[tough kindle]

Haven't programmed since high school though

[brazen marlin]

I'm gonna make a game from scratch using c++.
I only started learning it a few months ago.
Only good things can come from this

[grim fjord]

I'm gonna make a game from scratch using c++.
Use SFML and you will be fiiiine

[candid mason]

funnily enough, neuro's favorite type of game would probably be an old school MUD text adventure game.

[tough kindle]

I've made a calculator using notepad in school once

[tiny laurel]

All I can do is come up with ideas

[brazen marlin]

SFML not scratch enough, SDL2 for me

[strong falcon]

I can program text adventures in C++

[prisma bobcat]

OpenGl

[frozen heron]

Why not vulkan, even?

Although, you will spend half the gamejam getting one triangle on screen

[brazen marlin]

I would if I'd learned it, I at least need to make a square move before the end of the 48 hours

[strong falcon]

OpenGL
Vulkan

3dfx Glide:

[grim fjord]

I'm not a big fan of the game jam themes related to game genres.
Best themes are the ones that allow any genre and any setting/story.

[brazen marlin]

Games not made in Assembly are disqualified

[red sinew]

It's fun to adapt to a theme though

[normal drift]

At the end of the day all games are assembled

[frozen heron]

Only game jam I actually did well in was one called Pass the game

[strong falcon]

HAH
I have two books full of Assembly games, i win by copypasting

[frozen heron]

Tbf, I only participated in two game jams

[grim fjord]

Yes but for example "Deep and deeper" is much better theme than something like "game about banana" or "game with cyberpunk setting".

[red sinew]

Yeah. The latter 2 are less themes though

[umbral stratus]

princess cyberpunk setting

[frozen heron]

Nuero will decide your fate

[tiny laurel]

Text adventure can be very fun if you are a good story teller

[grim fjord]

They are themes too if you will write them just as single words: "banana", "cyberpunk" etc.

[frozen heron]

So, the more abstract the better?

[grim fjord]

Exactly!

[red sinew]

You know what I really want? Vedal to participate himself on stream

[grim fjord]

He will

[red sinew]

Oh?

[prisma bobcat]

I think he will make game on strim

[grim fjord]

You know what I really want? Vedal to participate himself on stream
He will
src: https://fxtwitter.com/Vedal987/status/1739915567207784890

[prisma bobcat]

Also I just realized there is a chance the theme will be Filtered

[brazen marlin]

Oh I hope so

[red sinew]

brb, gonna dm him if he wants to team up

[candid mason]

he needs to finish that lava lamp first

[strong tree]

Neuro's Theme: Lava lamp
Vedal:

[frozen heron]

I don't think he's gonna work in a team, but wait Alex exists

[red sinew]

It was a joke ^^

[strong tree]

does he tho

[frozen heron]

we'll never know

[crystal mason]

There's no way he doesn't reroll if that happens, right

[frozen heron]

Doesn't he just have to add a step function

[elder halo]

i heard there was jam

wheres the peanut butter

[grim fjord]

Maybe it's just me but it feels like most of the time when Neuro gets a question and doesn't have any context provided, she answers using topics related to her or things from memory. So if Vedal will just simply ask about "game jam theme" without more context she probably will answer something like "Game jam theme? Vedal, you should make game about me! I am the best vtuber!" or will just take something from memory like swarm, harrison temple etc.

[cerulean spade]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[red sinew]

I hope she says something about AI in general. That would leave more room for fun settings

[frozen heron]

I mean, the fireflies commision exists

[strong tree]

Watch her essay up a whole idea and then we're all just making the same game

[frozen heron]

What if she wants a mecha game

[grim fjord]

From my experience, jams with AI-related themes aren't that great because you need split time for making an AI and on top of that you need to implement fun gameplay.

[strong tree]

Just make the AI the character, easy

[red sinew]

Well not necessarily. If the game is just centered around AI, you could make a story game about an AI coming into existence or something

[grim fjord]

Let people decide if they want to add AI to the game or they prefer to focus more on the level design aspect or something else. AI should be optional, not a theme.

[red sinew]

Ai theme != needs actual AI in the game

[frozen heron]

Portal 2.5

[strong tree]

I'm a big fan of thinking outside of the box with these kinds of things

[grim fjord]

You still need to think about "what will AI do" and "what will player do". It's like making two games instead of one when AI is the theme.

[red sinew]

Why? If the player is the AI

[dense reef]

just dont add players

[red sinew]

You are an Ai sent to a planet to terraform it for humanity. Bam, base building game unlocked

[frozen heron]

Pretty weak thematically though

[strong tree]

Can make it a crossword puzzle game themed with the context of "after an AI-driven apocalypse has destroyed society as we know it", then you're still just making a crossword game and you're not having to think as an AI or AI characterizations, but it flavors the game

[frozen heron]

Just a reskin

[grim fjord]

Bam!
Points for theme: 1/5

[red sinew]

It was just something I came up with in 2 seconds, pretty sure if you think about it you can make it way more focused

[strong tree]

(If anyone wants to make a post-AI apocalypse crossword game you are free to that idea)

[frozen heron]

The strongest theming is when the theme is baked in to the mechanics

[grim fjord]

Personally I don't like using just story/lore to force theme into the game. I much more prefer if the game itself looks like it's designed from the scratch with specific theme in mind.

Even if game has 0 story it still should match the theme.

[strong tree]

I find both approaches perfectly valid and think greatness can be found in both :)

[red sinew]

^

[grim fjord]

My reasoning is that if you force theme just by the story, you can make basically any game you want (you are losing all the constraints that the theme should give you). In worst case.. you can even make a game before jam and just make graphics/story in the way it will just work with the theme.
The theme should be rooted into the game itself right from the beginning. It's nice when the story is related to the theme too but it's about making game for people to play with mechanics and such, and not a writing contest. At least.. this is how I see it, you can disagree with me.

[red sinew]

I do. If mechanics == theme, I can make a chess bot and call it an AI game

It's literally 50% of the game is AI (the other 50% is you)

[grim fjord]

Yeah but there is no such game jam theme like "AI game". I mean.. it would probably be different theme (with just "AI" in the naem), maybe something like "AI helps you" and then "just chess bot" won't work.

[frozen heron]

Valid entry, won't win any competitions though

[ebon dust]

would it be bad to ask her for some restrictions too along with a theme?

[red sinew]

That's my point. It can't just be mechanics. It's the same as what I said earlier: onyl story is no good, only mechanics is no good either

[ebon dust]

I don't particularly follow game jams, but I've seen a lot of horror related jams and its interesting how restrictions breeds creativity

[frozen heron]

It's more fun to play around with mechanics than to design story, because this about making games after all

[red sinew]

Story is a huge part of most games my dude

Making games is as much about coding as it is about art and writing. It's not "programmer jam".

[grim fjord]

From my experience, good theme is enough to force you to think about something unique.
For example just simple "Shapeshift" creates enough constraints that makes designing theme-matching game a fun challenge.

[frozen heron]

Hmm

[candid mason]

many game studios these days don't hire any writers. source: bethesda game studios.

[red sinew]

And how do their games turn out?

[frozen heron]

Look at factorio though

[strong falcon]

Harrison Temple and the AI Orb would be a goddamn banger of a game what do you mean

[red sinew]

On the other side look at Dear Esther. I do agree with you, I like mechanics in game more as well, I'm just saying you can't just discard the story. It's both

[frozen heron]

Alright, I'll concede this argument

[grim fjord]

Yeah.. but you are forgetting it is a contest.. with specific rating rules. You don't get any points for the nice story here. It's like drawing in photorealistic style on the pixel-art contest. It's art contest yeah.. but realistic style wouldn't count here.

[red sinew]

Actually a good point

[tiny laurel]

story probably would fall under Fun

[grim fjord]

Yeah but fun story doesn't mean it needs to be complicated or very expanded.

[strong tree]

You can absolutely achieve all of those with either a game that leans heavier on story or a game that leans heavier on mechanics

[tiny laurel]

having a good story can also help with creating better visuals, innovation, and probably theme

[red sinew]

I agree. Make a branching text based story game and throw in some procgen and you got a replayable game.

[strong tree]

add in the pixel bush and you've got visuals

[tiny laurel]

having a story can drive you towards a good direction and make things more immersive I guess

[grim fjord]

Yes but in this case you would get points for the fun and innovation not the story itself.

[red sinew]

If the story is garbage, do you think that would gain or lose points?

[grim fjord]

No story == good story >>>> bad story

[red sinew]

I think then we have to agree to disagree

[tiny laurel]

i think we should ask vedal this we getting nowhere

[red sinew]

Good mechanics + good story > bad mechanics + good story == good story + bad mechanics > bad both

[frozen heron]

I think story is smaller component of games

Compared to all the other stuff

[grim fjord]

Nah, there is no need. Just create a game that you think people will have fun when playing it.

[bright dome]

i think vedal didn't include story in ratings, because he is afraid of fanfics it will spawn

[tiny laurel]

fanfics will still spawn no matter what

[bright dome]

yeah, but it could encourage them even more

[tiny laurel]

if the fanfic is good then i got no problem

[grim fjord]

Nope, it's popular approach to not include "story rating" in the overall rating for the game jam games.
For example here are rating categories from ludum dare:

[dense reef]

the story also pretty much depends on the theme

[bright dome]

there are people in this comunity who shouldn't be let out of character ai space

[dense reef]

for example, if its a vampire survivor type of game, whats the story gonna be?

[strong tree]

I think we just need to look more broadly. There are different types of games, with different focal points, they're all valid and can all be good games. You may prefer games that put more emphasis on one element or another, other people may prefer other ones. They can all have the potential to be great games and can all be worth making.

[frozen heron]

Also: story is the only aspect you can leave missing in a game among these categories without hurting it

[cursive dawn]

You have unlocked new role

[red sinew]

It doesnt NEED a good story. It's just better if it has. Imagine VampSurv had a story/story presentation akin to Hades

Despite its popularity, Factorio is a very niche game. Same with stuff like KSP. Most hugely successful games have good story and mechanics

[frozen heron]

I suppose Humor you can remove too, but other than that

[grim fjord]

There is a difference between story and just overall theme. You don't need story with dialogs, cutsenes or something like that. Your "story" can just be included in the game's title even and that's it.

[ripe summit]

just because its niche doesn't mean they aren't successful...

[red sinew]

Yes. But not AS successful

[frozen heron]

I'm not arguing that stories aren't good in games, but rather they should not be a focus of game jams

[ripe summit]

i would call factorio quite successful tbh...

[frozen heron]

They should be a "nice to have"

[red sinew]

Ok, I can see this.

[grim fjord]

Despite its popularity, Factorio is a very niche game. Same with stuff like KSP. Most hugely successful games have good story and mechanics
Don't compare full fledged games with game jam games that need to be created just in few hours.

[dense reef]

Factorio has a story

[red sinew]

I'm not comparing the scale of the games, but the usage of story/mechanics

[grim fjord]

Just a reminder.. we are not talking about "if story in the games is important". We are talking about "how important is the story in the game jam games"

[strong tree]

Stories aren't necessary for a good game jam game, but a story-heavy mechanics-light game can also be a good game jam game. Make something to your strengths and the strengths of the team.

[red sinew]

^ 100% this

[frozen heron]

Agree

[grim fjord]

but a story-heavy mechanics-light game can also be a good game jam game.
I would replace "story-heavy" with just "good storytelling". Complicated story won't make good game but well implemented storytelling will do.

[strong falcon]

Story heavy
Heavy Rain but

[grim fjord]

Tutel heavy

[south swallow]

looking for someone who can do music

[strong tree]

Right, I meant story-focused, not necessarily complicated stories

[umbral stratus]

Press X to BROTHER

[south swallow]

the itch.io rules don't mention anything about use of generative AI, be it art, code, music, text...
what is the stance?

[dense reef]

please dont use AI for the gamejam :(

[deft kayak]

@glossy scroll ^

[ripe summit]

since this is a game jam it should showcase the effort and skills of those participating. using ai for it would be somewhat cheating.
tho... what about something like github copilot? like a ai assistance rather than full on generative ai

[candid mason]

i would allow it, this is just for fun after all. if people use ai and make something good, that should be fine. and if people use ai to make something that looks bad, they won't be voted for anyway.

[ripe summit]

thats true... tho it should definitely be atleast marked or noted that ai has been used

[deft kayak]

it's being discussed right now

[prisma bobcat]

Having it be similar to Ludum Dare the Jam where its allowed but requires disclosure seems like a good idea

[proper palm]

[ivory canyon]

Are we going to be able to choose whether to make a 3D or 2D game?

[proper palm]

Yep it's all up to you

Unless Neuro says the theme is 3D that'd be awkward

[limpid apex]

i want a vr game

[brazen marlin]

Yeah there's no way I'd be able to make a 3D game yet lol

Would have to throw together some real creative scuff

[candid mason]

you can fake 3D out of 2D like they used to do in the N64 days etc. 2D sprites that are perspective locked to the camera, etc.

if you aren't good at doing true 3D stuff, ofc

[brazen marlin]

I'd need to spend time researching, I've not looked into 3D, real or fake, at all

[sinful urchin]

guys I've taken half a year of 9th grade level python surely I can make a game

[deft kayak]

go for it fun learning experience

[sinful urchin]

ok sure
probably not gonna be able to make shit in two days though, so I'll do that outside of the game jam

[proper palm]

The time was extended to 3 days

[candid mason]

Sounds like the perfect theme to me.

[strong tree]

Use it as inspiration, try to do what you can during the game jam anyways! Even if you don't finish, you're that much closer to finishing

[candid mason]

yea, for a jam you really need to have strong knowledge in the tools you will be using beforehand, otherwise you'd never finish in time.

[deft kayak]

oh fr?

[sinful urchin]

cool, I can make a game where you press any key to win

[deft kayak]

Press any key to continue . . . THE GAME

[strong tree]

That's like halfway to cookie clicker, really

[sinful urchin]

I mean to be fair I could probably do that in like five minutes but still

[candid mason]

That's much less stressful. Gives us more time to plan a bit.

[dense reef]

one week

[strong tree]

Yeah I really appreciate the extension cause the original timeline mostly overlapped with my work week

Would've taken Friday off but I had to take sick time because of surprise covid 🙃

[dense reef]

99% of people participating in the gamejam have never participated in one, and you know 2 days to make a team for a 3 day deadline

less than 2 days*

considering the date it was announced and comparing it to the actual start date, many people were caught of guard (incluiding me), and we're either busy at the start or asleep

you could keep the 3 day deadline, but announce the theme a few hours before the start, so things can be discussed

3-4 hours would be good

[brazen marlin]

I think things being discussed is part of the 3 days, isn't that normally the case with game jams?

[proper palm]

It was announced at the beginning of the subathon

And it was talked about for months before that

[dense reef]

it was announced at the beginning of the subathon, but the start date wasnt clear

[brazen marlin]

I'd heard it was the 29th

[dense reef]

it could have been before christmas

or after new years

[brazen marlin]

Which I guess it is in some time zones

[proper palm]

yeah I didn't know either

[cobalt inlet]

I was pretty active the whole subathon, I did not see any mention of the gamejam (apart from smol bits from )

[proper palm]

It was in the first day

[dense reef]

and sure, lets count out the start date
the real problem was how much time we had to prepare

[proper palm]

Wdym by prepare?

[dense reef]

getting a team

2 days isnt alot

most gamejams (that i've seen) are announced 1 week before they start

[proper palm]

[proper palm]

I'm aware

[dense reef]

we barely had 2 days

i mean, i got lucky and got a team before the gamejam was announced

infact i was thinking it would be after new years

we cant do much, but considering this is a "small" community and most people are managing to get through this, i would atleast consider releasing the theme a few hours before the start

[brazen marlin]

I don't get what the point of releasing the theme before the start would be

[proper palm]

You are allowed to use AI-generated code or assets, but you must disclose it in your game's description if you do so (with the exception of code assistance from copilot/chatgpt/any other similar tool). However, we encourage that you instead team up with others who may fill the gaps in your skillset.

[cobalt inlet]

depends on when is awake ( ) to ask

[proper palm]

i think 7 pm gmt is already cutting it close to vedal's waking time

[bright dome]

tutel is eating now

[dense reef]

For "discussing" the game.
Currently, almost my entire team will not be free for the start of the subathon as they'll be asleep, busy or at work, so just a few hours before 7pm would be perfect to discuss what we could do

And this likely applies to many other people

[proper palm]

that's mainly why it was extended to 72 hours

[candid mason]

I have no idea how to express my opinion on the timing issue properly so ima sit this one out

[ripe summit]

honestly.. being caught of guard by the sudden announcement is fun. allows people to not "cheat" and create projects beforehand or stuff like that

[dense reef]

theres not much we can do to cheat tbh

if there was a theme, yeah i would find this a good time to announce

but hey, aslong as the theme doesnt involve 3d stuff i think everyone can manage thru it

[brazen marlin]

If the theme was announced early it would be pretty easy to cheat. I myself would be quite tempted to cheat, not out of a desire to win or do well because I couldn't care less, but just out of raw inspiration flow as soon as it's announced

[red sinew]

Why? Having the brain storming part of the jam time is cool. Like Ludum Dare does it

[ripe summit]

there is a bit of "cheating" you could do. like write code that you know you'll need

[candid mason]

I mean I'll be using the model I've been working on for god knows how long so I guess that's technically cheating, but there are already 3D nuero models freely available so technically it's not different I think?

[dense reef]

i mean, i have code for walking, animations and basic things ready

is that cheating?

[proper palm]

no

[candid mason]

You can find lots of these things online already

[ripe summit]

to avoid those kind of scenarios. i like gamejams that just announce the theme with the gamejam itself.. but when the time actually starts they announce limitations that you have to follow

[red sinew]

I think the general rule is "all CONTENT needs to be made during the jam"

[candid mason]

Nah that wouldn't work, as it's just not realistic.

[ripe summit]

not that kind of stuff... i mean gamejam specific stuff. like if you know you want to make somekind of bullet hell or something. writing the code for that for example

[bright dome]

just curious, will we able to use stuff such as cover songs from karaoke?

[dense reef]

ah yeah, i guess i would consider that cheating

[dense reef]

pretty sure you can use anything neuro-related aslong you dont monetize it

[candid mason]

Then you get into the whole "what counts as content?" issue

[dense reef]

words from tutel

[bright dome]

imagine monetizing gamejam games

[brazen marlin]

Keep that face for when I'm raking in millions from the game I'm making this weekend

[red sinew]

It's cool when actual games result from game jams though

[ripe summit]

yoinking code from other projects that are yours is fine imo. like i got code that lets us render 10,000 objects without any performance impact.
if we plan to make something that requires that. i'll obviously use that. but i didn't write it specifically for this jam

[bright dome]

although...

[proper palm]

not that far fetched

there's a lot of games that start as game jam submissions and then get put on steam

[dense reef]

mhm

[proper palm]

i can list a few off the top of my head like baba is you or friday night funkin

[bright dome]

hollow knight was one i think

[dense reef]

hey alex do you have a team yet

[proper palm]

partially

[candid mason]

I wonder how much overlap there is between each team

[ripe summit]

gamejam's are perfect to prototype a game idea and figure out if its fun

[bright dome]

i will use this gamejam as opportunity to get better at godot since i moved on from unity ... after incindent

[candid mason]

Unreal ftw

[dense reef]

games made with unity get 10+ points

[red sinew]

Make your own engine

[dense reef]

games advertising abandoned archive get 20+ points

[candid mason]

Guess I'll have to bribe the hosts then

[ripe summit]

just make your own abandoned archive for the gamejam

[dense reef]

is... is this allowed??

if it is...

:3

[candid mason]

[red sinew]

We all know vedal is So there's probably a chance

[vale cipher]

might be late but GAMEJAM

[candid mason]

Sigh...guess I'll have to ask the head of my family for a loan

But I know what'll happen if I don't pay it back on time

[dense reef]

better take two loans... ill outpay you

[boreal onyx]

is this a competition

of how much money one can owe

[dense reef]

a bribing competition

[candid mason]

The old head of my family ran soup kitchens in chicago during the great depression.

[bright dome]

i wonder whether there will be any prize for winning

[boreal onyx]

a singular name mention by neuro perhaps

[red sinew]

1st price: You get the unique opportunity to be allowed to advertise Abandoned Archive on all your social medias

[sterile warren]

a token for a free evil plushie (unlimited uses)

[bright dome]

who am i kidding, vedal is gonna win his own gamejam

[strong tree]

a free jpg image of the evil plushie

[dense reef]

hes not gonna finish the game

[candid mason]

She called me babe once

[analog sierra]

i can open the abandoned archive steam page in turbowarp

EZ +20 points

[crystal mason]

Not inherently against the rules

[boreal onyx]

if a game is going to be bad its going to be bad to the bones for it to be good

[proper palm]

yes

[bitter compass]

i'm using GAME MAKER (:<

studio 2

[boreal onyx]

oh my god i might actually get to participate then

[candid mason]

Can we use flash?

[bitter compass]

Can we use game maker studio 2 free version?

[analog sierra]

IIRC the only requirement is that it can be uploaded to itch.io

[bitter compass]

oh good

TIME FOR MY GML SKILLS

[fiery merlin]

studio 2 lets you compile to a file now so yes

[vale cipher]

time to use assembly

[wanton holly]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1189656790657400912

[analog sierra]

If i made assets for an abandoned project in the past can I use them for the game jam?

[proper palm]

While you can use pre-existing code or assets, refrain from writing code or creating assets specifically for this jam in advance.

[viscid dragon]

👀

I am excite

[strong falcon]

Speaking of, what are the rules concerning the use of AI in this?

[proper palm]

its literally in the description of the game jam

[strong falcon]

I might be blind, lemme check

[ripe summit]

#2023-game-jam message

[strong falcon]

Alright i have un-blinded myself, gotcha

[gaunt lichen]

anyone looking for an artist? a link with examples of some of my art. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1182h417lR82zqJYffqCCWoBF1lAgU9v5?usp=drive_link

[brazen marlin]

I'd be happy to get some art help when the time comes

[strong falcon]

Without knowing what game Neuro wants, i'll hold my breath and wait

[candid mason]

speaking of that, will that be announced on stream later today or?

[brazen marlin]

Tomorrow

[strong falcon]

It starts in 22 hours

[candid mason]

i see, announced while tutel is sleeping tomorrow then.

[strong falcon]

Technically he is awake right now

[faint torrent]

wait hang on

there's a game jam?

[strong falcon]

Yes

[indigo scroll]

hello, is there a lot of people that are going to do this game jam ?

[indigo scroll]

oh that's a lot

thx

[quartz hatch]

i gotta mirror these lol

[reef coral]

Damn, I'm curious about this Gamejam, Should i join?

[ripe summit]

if you want to ofcourse

[viscid dragon]

The only games I've developed in the past were text-based, so I'm really looking forward to this gamejam. Seems like there's going to be a wide range of skill-levels taking part 😄

[cobalt inlet]

yes from scratch games to scratch gamers to tutels

[viscid dragon]

I just remembered, I lied. I have made non text-based games before... in scratch

[cobalt inlet]

scratch MVP

[brazen marlin]

I still remember the first time I used scratch. My life was changed that day.

[fallen iron]

Hey @young spindle and I are a 3D artist and music composer, but we also both program too and have experience with Godot and Unity. We're looking to join a team together, DM us if you're interested!
I'll also link our portfolios, here's Gonderage's https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZIs-c1izSkXirdATigmyg0-QEs0Z8yzo?usp=sharing and mine https://peterdevita.com/#music
EDIT: We do kinda prefer Godot just because of how much of a pain Git is with Unity lol

[young spindle]

fr fr, and I can do 2D art in a pinch as well

[quartz hatch]

im just gonna make one thats web based

[zealous oxide]

oh shit you guys do game jams here

im a 3rd year comp sci student fairly proficient in unity im down to join a team

[old swan]

I’ve actually been sitting on a game idea that Neuro gave me for a while, now is definitely the time to make it happen

[stone pendant]

screw it. ima try to make a game

visual novel maker here i come

[rare shuttle]

available resource here !!
8 years as an artist, 5 years doing pixel art
amateur musician for about 2 years, i do vgm and undertale style music
failed my unity cert
my music is posted on my SC (soundcloud), and art is posted on DA (deviantart)
username is GrabThatBread on all platforms

[waxen loom]

I have an idea, too, but we still don't have the theme

[zealous oxide]

how big can the teams be?

[waxen loom]

(which hopefully the theme is just Neuro-related)

[feral quarry]

no limit

[strong falcon]

I have like, ten different ideas at this point since Ved first mentioned the Game Jam in July

But it all comes down to

[feral quarry]

does neuro pick the theme?

[old swan]

Heya Bread, would you mind if I DM’d you about my idea? I’m a cs major fairly proficient in Unity, but I definitely need someone to help me with the visual side of things.

[rare shuttle]

sure, i'd be glad to help if you need it

[strong falcon]

She does, from what we know

[reef coral]

Tbh, this is gonna be my first time coding something, Just for fun...

Any Suggestions on what i should use?

[dense reef]

unity/godot

[zealous oxide]

godot

[dense reef]

but do your own research to find what you like

[zealous oxide]

unity is better if you know some c#

[strong falcon]

Scratch

[zealous oxide]

or similar

[strong falcon]

Or Python if you want fancy Scratch

[waxen loom]

godot also lets you use c#

[zealous oxide]

yes but its more beginner friendly

from what ive heard at least all my projects are in c# / unity

i started unity after 2 years of coding

[feral quarry]

godot has really good documentation for both c# and the godot language
but yeah at the end of the day look around and see what you like

[reef coral]

Thanks for all the suggestions

[ripe summit]

tbh godot with C# is just a slightly better unity... i personally wouldn't recommend c# in godot because of the compilation time which just doesn't exist in gdscript

also web builds don't support C# in godot 4+ from what i understood

[feral robin]

ive never done an online game jam as a team, how does it work to make teams? i know programming, writing, ive made a couple of games with my own engine and i know a bit of unity, but im utterly shit at anything visual though i dabble in stable diffusion

[waxen loom]

I was honestly going to use godot with gdscript regardless so it would enable web targeting

[south swallow]

I wonder what the theme is going to be

[feral quarry]

ah yeah forgot about this
damn i gotta learn a new language alongside engine

[waxen loom]

GDScript is pretty easy to pick up imo

[feral quarry]

idk never programmed in python
avoided that language like the plague, only know C, C++, C#, LUA, GML

[zealous oxide]

bro if you bothered learning c++ why avoid python

[feral quarry]

i was misled by foolish programmers saying C++ is good

[ripe summit]

gdscript is like LUA without "end"

[waxen loom]

If you have lua exposure, then anything python-esque shouldn't be too crazy to pick up

[marble phoenix]

i guess the saying "learning c++ makes you elitist" holds some truth to it

[severe vortex]

godot my beloved

[quartz hatch]

And now, every language I have ever used for any significant period of time:
Python (C, Micro, Circuit), C#+WPF+WinForms+RazorPages (not maui sad), Ruby+Rails+Vue+ElasticSearch+PostGres, Java (but no), C, Cpp, Verilog HDL, HTML, CSS, JS (but no), Matlab (but no), and others (no), (oh and some assembly alol)

and I still have no idea what i am doing

[zealous oxide]

jack of all trades

[quartz hatch]

master of none

[zealous oxide]

wtf do you even do to end up with a stack like that

[feral quarry]

programming

[zealous oxide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/922237636536582185.webp?size=64&name=tll&quality=lossless

[gray musk]

Surely no-one gets baited by that sushi theme

[strong tree]

The true ones will also include sushi on top of the real theme

[ripe summit]

honestly that looks like a fairly normal stack...

[quartz hatch]

Verilog, Cpp, C, C# stuff, Matlab, ASM: College classes
All the ruby: Open source project
HTML, CSS, JS, Java: High school classes
Python stuff: Personal projects

I gotta learn Zig and Rust at some point tho

[zealous oxide]

they tought you ASM in college??

[quartz hatch]

A bit, not much. Not full x86 or anything like that

[zealous oxide]

i see

yeah im finishing my college classes soon they would not dare

[waxen loom]

Use for job: C#, HTML, CSS, JS, SQL
Learned in college: Java, C/C++
Dabbled: Rust, ASM, Python

[zealous oxide]

yeah that looks normal

to me at least

[young spindle]

yo, is anybody out here already forming a team that could use more members?

[strong falcon]

The more i read this the more discouraged i get

[worldly scaffold]

I feel like if I say I use PHP here everyone gonna riot but hey... it pays bills. that's good enough for me.

[feral quarry]

hey it's not about winning or making something incredible
just participate and learn something new in game dev

i'll participate with an engine and programming language i don't know

[candid mason]

PHP is good for many things, the internet community just hates it irrationally.

[brazen marlin]

Yeah I've not programmed in years and am programming a game from scratch using a language I only learned for a few months, it's gonna be garbage, but it's gonna be fun

[worldly scaffold]

I'm working as a web dev so I mainly use PHP, JS, HTML, CSS,... u know, stuff along those line... and dabble a bit in game dev with Phaser :v

maybe I can finish something during the GameJam maybe not but I'll try my best :x

[outer schooner]

Maui sucks anyways. Sounds like you would enjoy learning Avalonia though

[quartz hatch]

we didnt learn Avalonia bc of other issues lol

[strong falcon]

Yeah, my main motivation at the moment, after seeing people rock up with phonebooks worth of coding languages and years of experience, is to just be the best damn Scratcher i can be and hopefully get my game to be played on stream

[karmic imp]

looking for a team to join as a 2d artist! I also have programming knowledge but not really too much in game dev (worked a bit in unity a couple years ago)

heres some of my work:
https://www.instagram.com/ramen_bucket/
https://github.com/RamenBucket

none of my skillsets are specifically geared towards game dev but im happy to learn. pls dm me!

[marsh hawk]

LFT that needs an audio person, I have participated in touhou game jams before (it's on the YT linked in profile if u want to check), will try my best do to any style that better fits the game
Should be free throughout the whole jam, feel free to DM me

[fallen iron]

Any Godot devs around? We've got a team of artists but we need some dedicated devs

[stone pendant]

💀god help me💀

[strong falcon]

Given Neuro's recent obsession with fantasy stories of knights and princesses, i'm mentally preparing myself to remake Link: The Faces of Evil within 48 hours

[proper palm]

what is that green chihiro sprite

[stone pendant]

thats the extent of my skill in photoshop. hue change.

[strong falcon]

Maybe ask Neurotics if they have the Leafytutel avatar in hi res somewhere lol

Guys... I just realized that there is a non-zero chance Neuro will ask us to make League of Legends since she talks about it all the time 💀

[zealous oxide]

looking for potential 2d artists / audio designers we are a team of 3 unity devs

[rigid stag]

Looking for a team to join as a Unity programmer, lthough i can make basic sprites, I am not great on art/design I can work with networked code/server side programming as well.

[oak pilot]

Instructions unclear, made Leg of Leg Ends after multiple shock collar streams caused limbs to fall off.

[strong falcon]

Shock collar simulator sounds like a pog kinda game

[fallen iron]

Still looking for Godot devs if anyone is looking for a team

[wooden coral]

LMAOOOOO

[zealous oxide]

we are currently 3 devs 1 artist and 1 audio ideally we'd want one more 2d artist to fill in the gap (we'll be using unity)

[gray musk]

Looking for a 2D artist, preferably on a OCE timezone.

[candid mason]

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[nocturne imp]

hai i'm a Godot dev (I also can use Unity too) looking for a team to join 😄

[zealous oxide]

join @fallen iron

they need godot devs

[candid mason]

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Gamejam suggestion trolley randomizer and elimination segments decided by Evil and the final survivors fight to the death

[strong falcon]

Neuro gets to pick what we do, but we have to for that

[reef coral]

Is Godot Free or Something?

[zealous oxide]

unreal unity and godot are all free

but i dont think you'll find anyone crazy enough to make anything in unreal in 3 days

and godot is more beginner friendly than unity

[little finch]

Well this is neurocord we're talking about, expect the crazy stuff to happen

[dense reef]

no matter how crazy you are, making something in unreal takes time

[spare thicket]

jam ill be on itch? any place where i can find more info? plspls

[dense reef]

check pins

[spare thicket]

ty

[little finch]

Well I'm partially joking as I don't know that much about code

[dense reef]

theme will be announced by neuro at the start of the gamejam, so pay attention to her stream

or just check the updated itchio page

[prisma bobcat]

I think Ostium is making their game with Unreal

[zealous oxide]

@candid mason gl madman

[dense reef]

good luck

[little finch]

that's crazy

[strong falcon]

You'd be surprised, Unreal Engine 5 is very beginner friendly, tons of tutorials and free assets

[zealous oxide]

its not about it being beginner friendly its about making something in the timeframe

ive used a lot of unity though especially these last 3 months with my team on our last project so well be using that

[strong falcon]

I dunno, theres a guy on Youtube, Reuben who remakes games in Unreal Engine in very short timeframes- he made a GTA clone in 72 hours

Though a lot of it came down to pre-built assets bought from the store

[reef coral]

i'm just waiting for like the announcement

[dense reef]

we're talking 2d here

[zealous oxide]

yeah 2d

3d games im sure you can smash a bunch of stuff together

[dense reef]

ostium plans on doing 3d tho

[reef coral]

I'm finally getting to experience the Game Dev Lifestyle

[dense reef]

with his neuro model

[zealous oxide]

also unreal's blueprints are a cool feature

for beginners/people making stuff fast

[strong falcon]

raises hand to bring up his beloved Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project which is 3D but pretends to be a 2D sidescroller

remembers its in an early version of the Havoc engine

lowers hand

If whatever Neuro comes up with can be adapted into a sidescroller i'll be very happy lol

[zealous oxide]

the less specific it is the better

the last gamejam i did the theme was delivery

pray its similar

[strong falcon]

Yeah something vague works the best since its down to interpretation

Clapping

Finished game: Neuro has had it with clappers, finding that timeouts dont work she grabs the Bloodstorm Cannon from the beach stream and takes matters into her own hands

[zealous oxide]

if the theme where smth like timeout

that would be sick

[candid mason]

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[wild forge]

I'm plenty excited for this jam. This will be my first, so yeah! Good luck everyone!

[tawny briar]

what up

[reef coral]

uhhhh, where can i do my pixel art for this

i don't have the software

[frosty mantle]

https://www.piskelapp.com/ or https://orama-interactive.itch.io/pixelorama

[grizzled hazel]

I've seen websites like https://www.pixilart.com/draw used for pixel art or you can download piskel if you want an app

[zealous oxide]

A useful guide

@reef coral

[tidal thunder]

This is a nice reference, thanks

[muted cargo]

#ad

[cobalt inlet]

[frosty mantle]

Useful Neuro-related resources

If you have something publicly available and ready to share with others, let us know

Sounds: https://nuero.fun/noises

Sprites:

• https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1189833253541134346
• https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1189922422808391761

[celest sparrow]

Damn i wish i could participate but this is literally the only time of the year where i dont have any access to my pc TwT i wish you all great success and a lot of fun ! Maby on a next one ill be able to provide some assets ;3

[pliant heron]

If anyone is looking for an artist hmu, I'd love to participate!

[short lion]

Maybe LFT - gamedev experienced in Unity (using old Unity 2018.2.20f) and Inky, can also do some Pixel and Voxel art, write and make sound effects.
Portfolio: Making dis game: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1464220/Netherguild/, made some other stuff: https://superobot1.itch.io/ more in the works 😤

[cobalt nest]

wonder if any use pixijs or threejs to develop, it might be relatively rare 😥

[reef coral]

gonna have to manually draw my Vedal Sprites for Mine

😭😭😭

[high prawn]

Looking for a team to join as a Unity dev
Made this game before: https://ih3lp.itch.io/wheat-reaper

[proper palm]

Looking for 2D animator pls dm

Will give cookies

[twilit ruin]

good luck guys

[neon night]

fellas, i am a programmer who makes visual novels on renpy

i am part of a 2 man team who makes a few games but i also do freelance work here and there

if anyone needs some help with programming i would be grateful to help

i feel most at ease when it comes to using renpy but i have general programming know-how

[reef coral]

Alright, I'll be using godot for this gamejam

(🔰)

[strong tree]

Which game dev engine would be easiest for a React-focused front end web dev to pick up? Asking for a friend

[cursive berry]

is there a way to get around the file size limit of 1gb on itch.io? I have a simple idea for a project that might be fun but it would be about 5gb in size.

[candid mason]

not sure I'm going to honestly, I believe I'm allowed to, however it might simply not fit the style of the game we make visually speaking.

Also there's 12 of us now

[short lion]

12 of you? The swarm is real

[candid mason]

I did not expect some of the people I got on board to actually join

[gray musk]

Dude you're starting a damm indie company

[candid mason]

One of them is even a project manager irl

[gray musk]

Wtff

I've just got me and an irl friend

[frosty mantle]

You have to contact their support if you need more than 1gb

[strong tree]

Me

[fiery merlin]

You could make a simple launcher that downloads the rest of the assets from elsewhere when you launch it maybe? Dunno if itch has problems with that

[candid mason]

Glad I saw this

[fiery merlin]

But it would also mean you have to host a 5gb download

[gray musk]

Google drive

[fiery merlin]

That's gonna get limited very fast

[gray musk]

Launcher that just has a link lmao

[fiery merlin]

And if it just has a link, I doubt it's gonna get played on stream

[gray musk]

True

[frosty mantle]

Launcher is 1gb in size

[short lion]

Just spread the project across 5 itch.io submissions xde

[strong tree]

How fast is their support turnaround time? Should we contact them preemptively even if we're not sure if we'll actually need the extra space? I'd hate to see someone get to the final day, realize their project is too big, and not be able to get the extra space in time for submission

[frosty mantle]

Just do it now

Btw you can add External files to the game page. UPD: idk if you can add it to the jam submission as well.

[muted cargo]

are we allowed to start doing some general art before hand ?

[frosty mantle]

Technically no, since it is not in the spirit of the jam

[muted cargo]

[frosty mantle]

While you can use pre-existing code or assets, refrain from writing code or creating assets specifically for this jam in advance.

[fiery merlin]

"insert disk 2"

[loud tartan]

I wanna do something for the game jam but not really sure
never really delved into game making software before and got like 2 drips worth of coding knowledge
I do have a bit of experience with editing sprites and animating

[short lion]

Alex was looking for an animator here

[fallen iron]

Still looking for some more Godot devs if anyone's interested

[stone raptor]

why Godot is getting so popular?

[south swallow]

it's good

and unity broke some promises

[frosty mantle]

Unity did a flop, and Godot people used it to their advantage + Godot is so good after v4 release

[cursive berry]

no one trusts unity anymore

[wicked nimbus]

Unity?

[short lion]

Unity shenanigans this year + Godot C# support + Godot actually improving I think

[wicked nimbus]

heard a company called Unity

once free but now have cost

[short lion]

Gotta learn Godot for the next Neurojam

[little finch]

and that assumes there will be a next time and the game jam is successful enough

[stone raptor]

it will be

[short lion]

It's gonna be... 😤 I believe!!!

[stone raptor]

me too

[short lion]

People here are super talented

[gray musk]

is anyone else planning to implement AI into their game

[random anvil]

Maybe a little late but still. If anyone needs help, I have some experience with Unity and modeling. I haven't participated in game jams before, so this will be my first one.👍

[zinc iron]

this is going to be my first unity project, I haven't even finished reading the documentation. it will be fine, I'm sure.

[candid mason]

If no one takes you up on that offer I will But I'd prefer someone else to ask first.

I want as many people as possible to participate

That's all we could probably handle though So no more

[feral robin]

am I supposed to have a team by now? or will team building start at the beginning of the jam? ive never done a jam online before

[dense reef]

you should have a team before the gamejam

[feral robin]

oops well if any team needs members im still looking! i do code and writing. my portfolio is at www.yo252yo.com

[boreal onyx]

alternatively
start your own team

that would be good too

or go solo if you're brave enough

[viscid dragon]

I'm impressed about how many people actually have former experience doing gamedev here.

I guess it's a big community, but even still.

[dense reef]

same

is the first gamejam for my team

[boreal onyx]

that and its the game jam channel
you expect people with enough confidence to gather people for a project here

[viscid dragon]

Ah, I suppose that is true!

[feral robin]

well ive done solo games before, but never an online game jam, and this seemed like the perfect chance but since its my first it seems challenging to start a new team xD

i bet its because vedal is gamedev it attracts other gamedev =p

[analog sierra]

I'm going solo, on my first game jam, on my first finished game this will 100% go well

[rigid stag]

Do you guys think godot is easy to learn quickly? I'm a Unity dev but maybe I'll try out godot for this

[zinc iron]

same

[frosty mantle]

You can use C# bindings for a pretty similar experience, but GDScript is pretty straightforward and perfect for fast iterations

[fallen iron]

Some concepts are different but I think if you already have experience with Unity you probably have a leg up on it

[slender mantle]

Hi, I am a composer, looking for a team. Here are examples of my music.
It doesn't have to be cheaptune, but giving the time limit it will be close to that. In 3 days I can compose 1 developed song or 2-3 simpler songs

EDIT: Team found, thank you.

[brazen marlin]

My game will likely not be able to do your music justice, but I'd be happy to have your help!

[soft totem]

i am going to explode

crap

IM NOW DIVIDED IF I SHOULD USE URP OR HDRP AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

first gamejam

and like fourth game

[slender mantle]

I am sorry, found someone. If this was 1 week gamejam I would have also helped you, but don't think it would be possible to do 2 teams in 3 days.

[soft totem]

lets hope neuro sama dosent give us an impossible theme

[brazen marlin]

No worries

[clever gull]

If it was Evil I'd love an abber demon scream as the theme truly testing the limits of creativity

[viscid dragon]

I love how this gamejam is bringing a lot of really talented people together. Such a great idea.

[ripe summit]

just a small tip, take your game idea and then half the stuff you want to add
and then half it again and you got the perfect amount of work

[soft totem]

i hope my new monitor will improve my efficiency

[analog sierra]

2 hours until start

[soft totem]

the dread is approaching

my monitor hasnt arrived yet

i cant code on my tv for the life of me

it arrives tomorrow

[rigid stag]

I think urp is better for short games, you have to limit your scope ALOT if you want a working game

[soft totem]

yeah

OH WAIT I HAVENT SET UP ASEPRITE

[bright dome]

you mean in unity? it's 3 day gamejam so i don't think hdrp is needed

[rigid stag]

Exactly unless ur building an extremely short high graphics sample or something

[soft totem]

yeah

[feral quarry]

it's advisable to never use HDRP honestly, it's very unstable with heavy performance losses with realistically no benefits

[rigid stag]

My device can't handle it anyways

[autumn hazel]

i've never even thought of making a game before, i dont have a single clue about game design and programing yet here i am at 1 am trying to get a feel for how to use scratch for no other reason than, the cute ai says so

[soft totem]

scratch is easy

you will imeddiatley get the hang of it

dammit vs 2022 install faster!

[autumn hazel]

i know, i heard it was used to teach kids how to code, so far i gave a little ghost an idle animation and the ability to move and get teleporting bread

[compact hill]

I wish I could participate in this but I'm away from home today and traveling tomorrow...

[oak pilot]

I'm away, traveling later today, and have more LetMeCook than ability to focus, so I doubt I can participate.

[compact hill]

Or idk maybe I can try to do something on the last days

[oak pilot]

There's no penalty for starting but not getting anywhere, I guess, at least working solo. Probably should commit if you join/form a team

[rigid stag]

You can try building a small game in the last day I done many times.

The game is always 90% less grander compared to the vision tho

The more you limit the scope the better it'll be especially if you are working solo

[compact hill]

Although tbh Neuro probably isn't as good at picking out a jam theme as normal game jam hosts.

[ripe summit]

the general gameflow should be done on day 1. after that you can refine and improve stuff. thats normally how game jams go if they are 3 days

[short lion]

Vedal will surely be there to ensure the theme is something that could work for a game jam and that the theme isn't "clapping", right? (oh god it's clapping it's clapping I don't know how to make a game about clapping)

[quartz hatch]

i was hoping to make a game where you shoot clappers if it is

[muted cargo]

Hi what was the decision about AI art ?

[compact hill]

By the way, if anyone is interested in making an incremental game for the jam, The Modding Tree makes it really easy and you don't need to worry about any of the UI or anything. https://github.com/Acamaeda/The-Modding-Tree

[grim fjord]

#2023-game-jam message

[autumn hazel]

you control neuro and chase clappers in a street/mansion and they are forced to clap occasionally giving away their location or something

[muted cargo]

thank you

[short lion]

Or the reverse, clapping horror game where you have to escape a dark mansion full of clappers, they clap occasionally in the dark and then chase you. Named: "They clap" would be tragic backstory for why Neuro hates clappers

[clever gull]

A strategy game where neuro deploys her swarm drones to eliminate all clappers

[brazen marlin]

A mix of idle clicker and red-light, green-light where you click to clap, but if you do it while she's watching you get banned

[grim fjord]

I would love to see "neuroverse" as a theme

[rigid stag]

This is a really good idea for beginners

[quartz hatch]

i hope vedal answers my question

[grim fjord]

What questions?

[muted cargo]

also do we have to link the code when we upload the project ?

[south swallow]

nope (?)

[deft kayak]

game jelly starts in 48 minutes... exciting

[quartz hatch]

I asked him if I could include a way that neuro can read the game state, which requires him to do some very basic setup to make it work

[muted cargo]

I'm kind of already panicking

[south swallow]

it's gonna be fine

[brazen marlin]

It's all in good fun

[gray musk]

if you stress out too much, it will take away the fun of it ❤️

We believe in u!

[muted cargo]

[south swallow]

unless the theme is ||3D MMO FPS with global economy and blockchain elements||

[clever gull]

Best of luck everyone, we have high expectations from each and every one of you

I'll be here with my bucket laughing at your panic and stress

[bright dome]

imagine her saying nft game

[frosty mantle]

Remember: it will be a theme, not a genre

should be

[bright dome]

hmm

[muted cargo]

neuro decides so you never know

[gray musk]

imagine the theme is abandoned archive

[somber stone]

imagine the theme is "hop on abandoned archive"

[frosty mantle]

I mean, that's at least something

[gray musk]

No one would submit a complete game

[clever gull]

Theme's portal, she remembered the playthrough

[muted cargo]

did you make the gif or was it winter ?

[compact hill]

Imagine the theme is just "Vedal"

[young spindle]

what if the theme is abandoned archive, and tutel combines all our games into one

[clever gull]

Would be cool to see how people interpret that in a short time

[gray musk]

oh god

[somber stone]

winter

why people think it was me?

[austere bridge]

Never done a game jam, and I know it's late but might as well throw it out there.
I know Rust, Python and a little Javascript. Never touched Unity or Godot but I wanna learn. Prior experience is just as a Spacestation13 codebase maintainer.
If people are looking for last minute help, I should be available through the jam

[clever gull]

Or she says something like " Mario" and Nintendo approaches with the lawsuit hammer

[muted cargo]

you use it a lot and you are also an artist

[young spindle]

man, id love a game about admonishing tutel man