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Twins just being twins.

Let's hope so Sts 2 is right there
Back on my egg duty


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Secret dev stream tomorrow on the secret neuro channel
Neuro Blog tomorrow 
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I forgot to check NN how's it going
nn sleep
But I don't wanna
NN is dead, time to rant about something random

:neuroRant:
I can't really think of anything to rant about so can't help you there
why is
so important
Neuro should try to use every ai product and compare them. (She’s the best)
i will kill you
ok
:neuroFuckingKillsYou:
Idk
She's just cupsama
Cup sama is dumb

Your face is dumb
No u
Nice comeback did your mommy teach you that one
No u
No u
Today’s rant: tribalism sucks
it’s dumb and stupid
thanks for coming to my tedtalk
Doom
Antitribalism tribe 
Hi
Antirat tribe
I'm part of the antirat tribe
spy
No I founded it
I'm not
average skyrim player
Your name is Rat, Guardian of Sty though? How are you not a rat if your name is Rat scrajj
You should read more slowly
I read rat slowly what now
Learning to read
Already did that
I do know how to read though scrajj
Look Rat, it’s your cousin 
I'm not Rat
You are though scrajj
Hi ratsty
Funny Bunni
Hi raig
gn
Not yet
Does anyone have a gif of scrajj so I can actually use it?
Thank you
That's a lot of products
What about the to 10 most popular
Day 741 of loving Neuro: I love Neuro
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good morning
egg bacon
schaat
Neuro constantly being confused by the integration AI was peak
hola ññ 
Buyton
Oh hello raig
I condensed today's stream. Neuro was amazing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o7ORYqLrRw
Neuro Sama's AI fully autonomous playing Skyrim for the first time is really impressive. She was hilarious while interacting with the NPCs and had a lot of progress in the game. This is basically the whole playthrough from today condensed in 33 min.
Watch them live
Neuro, Evil & Vedal https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
Neuro merch https://neuros...
Bro's working overtime
What
Balls and walls is the best strategy 
hi
woi
kwaul
waig
Thank you, Kraul!

She ball on my wall until i strategise
Cow
Do we know how tall Vedal is frfr? Should be easier to figure out since the server stream
He's 5'7 as far as we can tell
According to old calculations
we gotta recalculate frfr
That was the last sentence I hear from Neuro before I got knocked out by drowsiness
How long is it? Is it not too much edit? I may just watch that instead of the vod
33mins
That's insane
Bro working overtime to shorten that whole stream
The vod is great honestly, I condensed it to 33 min, most hilarious parts, cute parts and plot.
I see, watching the back n forth is pain for sure
When Neuro can't fucking decide where to fucking go

Is still amazing though Neuro shooting magic
Yeah, I made it look smooth as fuck but I included a bit of when she got stuck because it was funny haha
Becoming a flamethrower too even if there's no enemy
Oh the wall with the spider web?
That was fun
Oeak
I want to personally shake hands with the person who made the integration, then i will never wash that hand ever again to keep their germs with me to my grave
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Proof?
Damn
Spam
youtube comments on the official clips think vedal made the integration 
frogg should have problably specificed that it was someone else that made it
Is Neuro on with Koko atm?
Neuro 6’7” and Vedal is 4’6”
No, this was from before
add another missinformation into the pile i guess
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Nurons please help
The clipper should credit the the people who made the integration
like, at least on the description tbh
Nuonrs what did Neuro upgrade in Skyrim
ideally it should have been an edited text on the clip but i guess that's not common in the industry
your mother.wav
You make me profoundly sad

Like I am definitely going to scroll to the description and then click on "more" and then read and say, "Oh, this is the person who made the integration." definitely
Can we get real no one care and stop doing bs
why would you put it there lol
put it on top
where the worthless quips normally are lol
i might be a bit harsh but idk, i don't like miscrediting work
and even putting it in the middle of the description is better than nothing
wider scope integration leading to more misinfo, but have to read long discussion post or forbidden source code to know what even do. guess the minimum aknowledgement is best for protecting the neuro vedal mysticism
ngl if mr beast's job was replaced with AI it would be less predatory 
Yeah, now we have people giving more credit than Vedal deserves
yeah, like he didn't really do anything, which is fine, he didn't need to, that wasn't his integration. but now we have people who think he made the hands down best integration we ever got
I don't know, man. I like artists and all, and I'm all for crediting them, but I see too many artists going on about not being credited and stuff. It gets really annoying when vtubers keep being reminding you, "Oh, this is the artist."
when the full credit should go to the actual maker of it
He deserves some credit, but only like 15%
skill issue, idk. you can never credit people too much. if you did something notable you should be entitled to having exposure unless you specifically ask otherwise
it's especially bad in the swarm
thankfully vedal is good at making sure credit is given
but this time he messed up, give how we have multiple people in multiple shorts saying he made the integration
which will just feed the 'vedal is a god among man that made AGI with a box of scraps' narrative
Btw, did Vedal pay the people who made the integration? If not he could at least pay them in exposure.
he pays them if he contracts them to make them
or uh, comissions is the better term
otherwise people do it cause they want to
So they made it for free?
i assume so
i will never drink alcohol
for multiple reasons, one of them being alcoholism is very common in my family
so i rather don't even risk it
drink compound V
i'm just gonna bring this up again tomorrow when the people that actually care about the project are online i guess lol
I don't understand all the crediting stuff, like when do you stop?
Never
Do you credit the software you used? Do you credit the guy who created the software?
I just know sometimes he commissions them
both options of having a free fanmade integration and having it paid are possible options
I would like to know, but that’s a secret
We only know some
You don't credit software, you credit people
you credit people and indie softwares
that's not really crediting cause the software company isn't involved in the project. it's pretty simple really, anyone that had any meaninful contribution to whatever thing they made should be credited, either through a group if it was like, a company or smt, or individually. What 'meaningful' is varies and you can argue that if you want.
but in this case i don't thjink you would hold much water to say that the creator of the integration's contribution wasn't meaninful 
Then I want everyone who created the software to be credited.
Neuro shouldn't credit Vedal, she should not ackowledge him on stream
i mean, was the software made for the integration? if not then why would they need credit, they didn't do shit 
NN, what happens to NN when the last Schizo stops being Schizo?
you need to directly contribute to the specific project to be credited, in my eyes
not just making a thing that someone else later used
idk it's pretty shrimple
What had and you cause i don't this contribution to what in this company meaninful' isn't in that this contribution't thingful contribution's not really credited, eithey meaninful companyone through a contribution't this cause individually, anyone the project. it's pretty simple really credited, eithe i don's not reator smt, or of that that's pretty simple really, a group if you can argue that if you can argue the project. it want.
but if you would be credited, either to whater to say ther to say th
Does an NN make doompost if no one is around to read it
i feel like i'm having a stroke reading this 
Remember to cite your sources
Your next message will be Location tomato
yes, i have doomed a few times without anyone else around 
Nooo not you, you were one of the optimistic ones
excuse me sir
there must gbe someone you've confused me for
i'm still optimistic tbh, but i'm not a glazer white knight. If i think vedal messed up, i will call him out on it
Aren't you honoured to be confused with Evil? :D
But I don't care much about crediting stuff. You already got paid, and the channel already gave you credit. Why do you want to impose the same thing on all the clippers?
and in this case, his employee (frogg) messed up by not crediting who made the integration, which is causing people to think vedal made it
vituha got paid?
If the person got paid I would agree
since we saw credits being given on stream, that clearly shows vedal cares enough for there to be credits
which is why i'm not blaming vedal specifically
he didn't do anything wrong this time 
then why blaming clipper
theres no central offical place to check or search the credits unlike other mods, games, tools so the responsibility is passes down
It's community-made for no profit which is why Vedal did nothing with the integrations developed within the first few months of the SDK's release since he didn't have a way to test them for malware
Can I be credited next video please, I've been following Neuro for a whole 3 streams
not all the clippers, idc if staz for exemple doesn't credit them. But the official clips channel is, well, official. It should be held at a much higher levels of standard imo
No
i dont understand did something happen
You're not seeing a paycheck unless it's being commisioned like the STS2 integration
did a clipper get shit on
I think we're discussing credit thing since the integ's creator is not credited on youtube clips or something
idk if they did get paid tho. and again, credits were given on stream, so that's clearly smt he cares about otherwise he wouldn't do it.
Idk why you assumed they wouldn’t get paid
credits would be a nice addon but if they got paid and already credited in the main channel then i think its fine to not have them
fuck tyou maple SHUTY THE FUFK UP
like, credits either matter or they don't. it makes no sense to credit someone in one place but not the other, especially when that one place is so easily missed.
what i mean is idk if it was comissioned
i do hope vedal gives them some money but for all i know that could have just been a passion project without any contacts with vedal
If free, credit. if paid who cares
If you think about it Neuro is the grandma of AIs Vtuber, especially if you take into account her beginnings as an OSU bot.
they weren't tho, very few % of the total swarm members watch streams
huh
sure they were credited on stream, but the youtube swarm and the stream swarm are very different groups
It's a mod. Why would everyone need to be credited in the first place? like the original mod is using different mods
credits for the dev's interest sure, the real issue in my eyes is if vedal is miscredited, tough though since its to his favor to be seen as programming god, im sure if vedal gave credit to all the open source he mayhaps used for neuro it would be less magical
and again, the issue isn't that all clippers have to credit, only the official ones imo
It would be nice
he literally is
that's why i'm complaining
2 of the youtube videos have comments glazing vedal
saying he made the integration
I don't care if it's not credited.
this isn't a hypoteticall, this is actually happening
i see nothing wrong with it
gabriel this is like
I think credits are not a big deal to give someone and should at least be in the description, but to be very honest I don't care that much and think it's probably an honest mistake
oh no the sun is going to blow up in a billion years
very few people watch vods tho, unless you mean highlights, which idk if skyrim will get a main channel video. But for clips they are certainly not credting them rn
famous last words 
It's just alot of people on the internet pretending they care a lot about crediting, but in actuality, no one cares.
He’s paid people that didn’t really want his money in the past so he probably did but that’s a conversation between them
Lol her and her silly Vedal surnames
the crux of the issue isn't even the lack of credits by itself, i would be a bit bothered but not enough to doom here about it. My issue is we are seeing another missinformation be formed right in front of us. And this one is stealing credits from a unkown creator and giving it to a big creator who did nothing as far as i know
I actually fell asleep before the stream ended, did she do much after killing the dragon?
It's there for the people that care
it's like if you invested a new pigment and the principal of your college got the credits for it.
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i clearly care, i want artists to have their names spread as far as possible. that gives them power in the system, it's only a good thing
but i'm getting off topic
I am watching for twins and Vedal. Why would it matter if it's credited or not?
misinformation is something that can pretty much never be taken back and has rippling consequences, nowadays people care less and less and in this context is doesnt really have major consequences, I just find it interesting that this issue is core to the channel and how different people react to it is interesting
Could we make our own comment on the video to address either the clippers or at least other watchers?
my point is: not crediting them is leading to vedal being given credits for something he didn't do at all
and i think that's bad
and i'm sure a lot of the more daytime nners will agree with me
You mean why would it matter to you?
i guess so, didn't want to use my youtube account but i don't have much of a choice
i see nothing wrong with it
he can take credit for it
nothing more for me to disuss with you then
tho not everyone wants their name being spread if you're just doing it for the love of the game
if you can't see how fucked up stealing credit is then idk what to even say
can you guys duke it out
You can potentially make one using a one time use mail if you want, in any case feel free to send me the link so I thumbs up the comment
we just won't see eye to eye on anything in this matter
whats your neuron tierlist in strength
Wait why was the art tag trending on Twitter earlier today?
id personally put conso in A
true, if the artist doesn't want credits that's fine
but when in doubt, you should credit people imo
I think you might confuse me for someone else too lol
no
I’m also tired of the idea that Vedal is a genius programmer when in reality he’s a decent or above average one.
Didn't Neuro credit Vituha so what's the problem?
hes good at AI programming, but thats obviously cause he worked on the same thing for 4 years
hes a bad game dev
and uh yeah decent at anything else
On god, AA was an 3/10 at best
Talking youtube official channels
I could be honest. Anybody here can go to the project section of Skyrim and ask Vituha if anybody has any questions. No point arguing here for a long time 
if getting into technicality, the integration repo has the MIT free use no attribution license so vedal can jsut say it is his, though the issue is I highly doubt he could say how it works because its quite a dense repo, if any dev stream questions come im sure he'll jsut point to vituha
the worst thing about abandoned archive was watching him trying to figure out in realtime how water reflections work on stream and still didnt get it
Okay, so let me get this straight: you are saying the original clip channel didn't credit the mod developer, and you want it credited there because otherwise people will think Vedal developed the mod. From what I know, the repo is MIT free license, so there's no need to credit it.
so real
okay so, i stand corrected, only 1 short has vedal glazers
not 2
i messed up there
I want to see him make another game, but at the same time never again
Do you know what's etiquette
NN 
nobody can save NN, such a waste of space 
i posted on the bear one
i see, i kinda of get their point about crediting vedal in that regard
but it's more that i don't want youtube recommending me clips
i will just remove it from my watch history and hope it doesn't influence my algorithm lol
Holy shit, it's Goku.
hello fenny
It's fun to look at the insanity from the outside
Yes, but I am on the internet, so I don't care much about that.
Salutations 
The insanity looks back...
i'm wondering that too, i checked it just to see why it was trending but it didn't seem to have anymore posts than usual?
I just noticed your name💀
oh hell nah
this is my best nickname
Chud vedal
American Vedal
Not if you lurk silently enough
my issue is just people crediting vedal. I will glaze the guy for things i think he deserves, but this is something he just didn't have any hands on and people thinking he made it only strengthens the whole 'he mad eneuro in a cave with a box of scraps!'
what is life
a song by neuro
This should happen to evil


