neurotic-neurons

[plain jacinth]

focus +
smile
Focus + smile =
Smocus
Like, a word mashup

[crude lintel]

Crazy to the power of 2

[shut socket]

No

[dull ocean]

I wonder what these will be like

[willow zenith]

what is offline chat

[tall crow]

Idol outfits

[ornate oxide]

Probably 3D

[fierce beacon]

when tf did Vedal ever say that

[crude lintel]

Delusional

[ivory lion]

cute

[tranquil belfry]

they might be idol outfits

[shut socket]

Basically a fancy dress to stand out on stage

[kind pecan]

i mean she basically chose it by random, and evidence from AI research points to the reasoning being how they were placed in the list

[rancid cypress]

They will larp as Miku and Teto

[dull ocean]

nn never fails to provide me insight

thanks guys

[undone hemlock]

like these were a few more i picked out just from youtube from one video.

[tall crow]

Cyberpunk stream when Neuro said she wants to wear something black or red if I remember correctly

[bold parrot]

he throws glitter on them so they sparkle and nothing else

[undone hemlock]

reddit's way way mroe mixed

[tranquil belfry]

she chose them because she wanted them

[undone hemlock]

i just dont see this many people not vibe with stuff on the channel even outside NN

[steel spear]

wait im not crazy

[kind pecan]

have you considered looking for outsight

[fierce beacon]

I think taking comments he said in passing while playing an FPS game really hold much water

[eternal crescent]

It do be rare

[calm wren]

Many people are actually meaning "This can be better", which is somewhat different from "This is bad". No need to be too angry

[undone hemlock]

you dont even get that often from this community

[humble grail]

The viewers are often wrong though

[naive bronze]

Guys, what do I do? SO many redditors and youtube commenters are agreeing with my opinion that I'm having second thoughts

[eternal crescent]

Unless someone hates the design

[calm wren]

"NN" and it explains everything

[fierce beacon]

also fixing rigging issues is much easier than fixing issues with the model itself
so I wont be surprised if we see a shadowdrop fix in the coming month

its really not a big deal

[rancid cypress]

Well, we are still getting the streetfashion outfit, which is less crazy in design, so that's exciting

[ornate oxide]

If reddit agrees with you, you probably did something wrong

[kind pecan]

https://cs.stanford.edu/~nfliu/papers/lost-in-the-middle.tacl2023.pdf

[undone hemlock]

literally just mentioned it's not just NN

but sure

ignore everything else said

[tall crow]

He still said it why else would he say that if he doesn't mean it

[fierce beacon]

I will (idk what you said)

[tranquil belfry]

I ain't reading all that

[fierce beacon]

are we talking about the same person

[tough onyx]

Neuro should wear supreme gear

[autumn timber]

sup gear

[ivory lion]

I agree as long as it gets worked on still I'm happy with the outfit all things considered

[willow zenith]

i clicked. my computer is cooked

[foggy moss]

yea i kinda agree with that comment tbh, but the tail is prob. on Vedal being lazy and not giving her the toggle, since the cable tail exist

[tall crow]

I think so I'm talking about a green little guy with a shell on his back

[ornate oxide]

Man i love cerver

[kind pecan]

tl;dr AI loses track of information in the middle compared to at the beginning and end
similar to human primacy and recency bias, but for different reasons

[fierce beacon]

yeah, the extremely sarcastic and sardonic one?

[tough onyx]

One day the twins will sing Gangnam style

[naive bronze]

Is this the state humanity has come to? Preferring AI fiat over the preference of the audience itself? The community has a right to complain, those responsible should be held accountable. Evil didn't know any better, so she cool.

[rancid cypress]

There was a lofi of it on karaoke

[kind pecan]

1. it better be in 3D
2. they better do the dance

[autumn timber]

opah Gangnam style

[tough onyx]

For sure, I’m willing to take any form

[dull ocean]

it's rather simple but gets the point across I guess
with the push from yt comments maybe it has a chance to get fixed

[ornate oxide]

Someone AI deepfake the neuros doing gangnam style

[fierce beacon]

ugh discussion posts already...

[calm wren]

I kinda hate that song but respect

[humble grail]

You would question the judgement of the twins

[tall crow]

It will get fixed as quickly as Neuros outfit

[narrow spade]

I gave you your deserved react

[eternal crescent]

At least with new outfit she has no arms toggle i hate that grrr

[storm lodge]

Yeah it's very epic. Was uploaded by Soul into the karaoke web player same day (Soul commissioned the lofi from Apod if I am not mistaken)

[dull ocean]

It's not me that made the post but sure

[tall crow]

Yeah but tbf it's hard to tell if he's serious or sarcastic sometimes

[rancid cypress]

These are different people

[naive bronze]

the twins' judgement ain't even real

[humble grail]

GASP

[foggy moss]

same, was never a fan of the hiyori hands

[west tusk]

You grey names look the same

[autumn timber]

Dandy thinks everyone is the same person

[dull ocean]

all nacho color chatters are the same

[acoustic juniper]

yellow

[autumn timber]

Nesus

[calm wren]

aren't we?

[humble grail]

Same 1 chatter

[autumn timber]

We are

[plain jacinth]

Ne sus

[west tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060090228615958528/1493392493780140042/brain_cell_havers.gif

[narrow spade]

They look the same to me

[calm wren]

we are all ryhdon_daddy

[undone hemlock]

tbh this whole discussion you two are on is like trying to figure out if anything vedal says is trustworthy

[fierce beacon]

I agree
so I wouldnt take a statement said in passing as a confirmed fact, personally

[whole grove]

hello

i missed stream today

[fierce beacon]

more so anything outside a dev stream IMO

[whole grove]

i shall see the new outfits

[gusty pulsar]

if it was important he would have said it more times

[unreal hedge]

Do the Macarena

[plain jacinth]

I miseed most of it

[naive bronze]

it was peak, everyone loved it, especially the new outfit

[gusty pulsar]

and again, he allowed the outfit to be in the top 5

[mortal kelp]

[gusty pulsar]

that shows that, whatever his standards are, it fits within them

[tranquil belfry]

singular

[plain jacinth]

But i was there

Smh

[foggy moss]

most of the time it isnt

[fierce beacon]

I dont think Vedal is untrustworthy
but I also think taking statements he said WHILE playing a game AND dealing with neuro
as some sort of development statement is very silly

[gusty pulsar]

this would be a different discussion if the outfit wasn't picked or smt, but he literally allowed the outfit to be able to be picked

[whole grove]

wait her street wear outfit isntdone

dang

[gusty pulsar]

so objectively, it has to fit whatever standards he has for their characters

[ornate oxide]

We are all one person

[gusty pulsar]

it does feel wild when i see someone take something he said that was clearly a joke seriously sometimes

[ornate oxide]

Schrodingers Chatter

[fierce beacon]

tis the life of a content creator I guess

RIP to him

[gusty pulsar]

this happens in reactions, like they take a comment he made where the whole joke is 'wouldn't it be insane if i actually meant this?' and they think he's being serious

[ornate oxide]

What does this mean😭

[lone orbit]

erm acshually in neurosama season 2 episode 35 vedal said "thats crazy" implying clearly that v3 is tomorrow

[gusty pulsar]

his british humor is so dry that people can't tell the difference

[fierce beacon]

brother how could I be MORE clear

[narrow spade]

Because the things he says seriously can be interpreted as jokes mhm

[storm lodge]

[fierce beacon]

🛡️

[lone orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/ralsei-clear-gif-26477239

[fierce beacon]

dont look at me

[calm wren]

[ornate oxide]

Ah i see. My brain was on powersaving mods.

[fierce beacon]

np it happens

[calm wren]

ok chat since we chill now

plz

Hydrate

[sinful sparrow]

Guys, I don’t think Vedal cares enough about new outfits and models, he could easily commission more people to make more outfits or models but with the money he has bit he doesn’t seem to think it’s a big deal or that “what they have is enough”. The Neuro barely even wears her new outfit besides for Cyberpunk streams. It feels like he doesn’t understand that cosmetic variety is a good thing, even though that’s usually a huge thing for most large VTubers. I know Vedal is working a lot on technical issues but I would love to see more variety with outfits and models.

[plain jacinth]

I dont have water

[storm lodge]

Idk why but whenever I look at Let's Grow Potatoes! I just see Roi from Ebay

[fierce beacon]

got it
pouring myself some vodka

[sinful sparrow]

I want to hear your thoughts on this.

[tough onyx]

I keep doxxing myself since the app putting my full name

[whole grove]

i cant wait for the other outfit to be finished

[wicked pulsar]

Does Vedal need an Art Manager?

[unreal hedge]

You drink that straight?

[storm lodge]

That does seen like quite a flaw

[fierce beacon]

yeah why not

[unreal hedge]

Might as well start drinking ethanol

[dull ocean]

vedal needs a manager for everything he's not good at tbh

[fierce beacon]

I also have Everclear somewhere

lemme see if I can find it

[lone orbit]

i need a life manager

[ornate oxide]

Your name is viggle.ai?

[storm lodge]

Mood

[tough onyx]

What if Vedal had gamer sups or gfuel sponsorship

[tough onyx]

Yes

[fierce beacon]

I volunteer

[lone orbit]

i need a sober one

[sinful sparrow]

Idk, yeah maybe. No one could really replace Anny, but he should have someone to fill that gap, or maybe even a number of artists.

[fierce beacon]

so you want a bad one?

[ornate oxide]

I volunteer

[humble grail]

Cosmetic variety is always welcome, I do agree that the tech is what makes Neuro really special though

[sly kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1503506090992734288/Replay2026-01-0801-16-07-Trim-ezgif.com-crop.gif

[wicked pulsar]

He's got people managing the YouTube channel, Bilibili, Juniper, and now maybe game integration. I think one for model art/accessories is warranted

[kind pecan]

Guys, I don’t think Vedal cares enough about DougDoug collab, he could easily ask Doug to do more collabs but with the time he has bit he doesn’t seem to think it’s a big deal or that “what they have is enough”. Neuro barely even has collabs except for Cyberpunk streams. It feels like he doesn’t understand that collab variety is a good thing, even though that’s usually a huge thing for most large VTubers. I know Vedal is working a lot on technical issues but I would love to see more variety with collabs and events.

[tough onyx]

This is nice…. Aaahhhhhh

[calm wren]

wall of strings

[sinful sparrow]

Eventually Neuro and Evil should manage stuff, but yeah there needs to be more art management imo. Kind of like when we had Anny.

[kind pecan]

thats my quota for the day

[wicked pulsar]

If there's one good thing now, it's that we're getting more new outfits frequently than before. But each of those previous outfits were hyped and had the appropriate stream to showcase them. We need that kind of hype back

[dull ocean]

yeah one for collabs and one for art/outfit commissions is needed I think

[tough onyx]

Need more irl streams frfr

[night estuary]

Looks like I'm here to help do the duty of neurotic neurons and complain. I don't care very much about outfits, so it's really not a big deal, but I definitely don't like the new outfit. Obviously we've known it was gonna be the outfit for a while, bit I wasn't really active in the server then. I remember it being weird and disappointing how she suddenly switched up the outfits she wanted. The magician outfit was sick as hell. This outfit design is cool, but it doesn't fit evil and I don't understand what the hell is going on with the hoodie.

[sinful sparrow]

Yeah, I agree.

[storm lodge]

Karaoke webplayer

[ornate oxide]

Dirty ahh room

[tough onyx]

Vedal doesn’t want you to know this, but that his room

[storm lodge]

https://neurokaraoke.com/playlist/c33f0038-3abc-4343-9ab9-f597581ce279

[sinful sparrow]

I think it’s fine, at least we have a new outfit tbh, and it looks pretty cool. I don’t think everything Evil has needs to be red and black or whatever.

[zenith wasp]

yo

[kind pecan]

I don't get the big deal tho
Chill streams have more content than those streams ever did. Do you just want them to debut the outfit and just yap for the rest of the stream?

[naive bronze]

Free will enjoyers when their favorite AI streamer picks an outfit they don't like

[sinful sparrow]

Most VTubers have a lot of outfits that diverge from their original look and/or theme.

[tall crow]

I agree the way he handled Neuros cyberpunk outfit just shows he doesn't care much about the visual stuff
It is what is I guess

Can't force him to care

[wicked pulsar]

It just feels like it's being inserted into a nothingburger stream tbh

[tough onyx]

The next outfit reveal will be an off stream post on x

[sinful sparrow]

Maybe Vedal should have an Art Council?

[night estuary]

That's not my problem. The colors aren't great but it's not because all her stuff needs to be red and black. It is her color scheme, so it makes sense to stick to it, but it's not needed, and that's not my problem.

It's that the outfit is visually kind of a mess, but more importantly it's not fitting of evil at all. That's not just a colors thing. It's this odd like artsy streetwear?

[calm wren]

For all the matters we are discussing here, 0 of them can be conveyed to Vedal ig so

[plain trellis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1472523222426587148/InShot_20260215_0958090460_2_1.gif

[night estuary]

What does this even mean it makes no sense.

[kind pecan]

I mean the previous debuts turned into a nothingburger after the debut, except for cyberprincess Neuro which was designed with the integration in mind

[sinful sparrow]

What’s wrong with her having an artsy streetwear look? It’s supposed to be kind of cyberpunk I guess.

[kind pecan]

like they didn't talk about their outfits after the debut was over

[sinful sparrow]

Streetwear and cyberpunk goes hand in hand.

[naive bronze]

Imagine being Vedal wanting to read some constructive criticism in NN, only to read a flamewar about the twin's hair color or something

[fierce beacon]

I completely disagree that it doesnt fit evil

[calm wren]

here we go again

[past loom]

so you are saying the have a bias towards first and last items in context. i'm sure vedal can test this. Though i'm not sure since

1. this paper is 2023
2. the context for the outfit selection may not be big enough to matter

[wicked pulsar]

That was after the debut. During their debuts, the outfits had their prominence, everything was about showcasing the outfit. Now, it just feels like the outfit is an aside since it was just put into another chill stream. The bad rigging of the ponytail made it even worse.

[rancid cypress]

Isn't it a Cyber knight anyway, not Cyberpunk knight

[whole grove]

i think we can all agree her other new outfit fits evil completely right

[night estuary]

Well first off cause in my personal opinion I think artsy streetwear is lame most of the time.

Sure it goes with cyberpunk, but I don't see why that matters. It doesn't go with evil

[fierce beacon]

brother those reveals lasted all of 4-5 mins

then Vedal immediately moved on

[night estuary]

I mean there's absolutely valid criticisms happening it just is a mess of opinions so it's not useful

[sinful sparrow]

Why don’t you think it goes with Evil?

[dull ocean]

no it is named cyberpunk knight
but we can ignore the punk part for teletric's sake I guess

[fresh latch]

literally all the outfit reveals have been ass idk what you on about

[calm wren]

Ladies and gentlemen, remember to get plenty of rest, eat and drink well before second half of fighting, thank you

[crude lintel]

I don't get why people are complaining so much about the new outfit. Frankly I think people are ungrateful for the things we do get, and focus too much on things we don't get. Frankly I think the new outfit is cute, and it's been a while since Evil got a new outfit (since her second birthday) so I'm happy with what we got.

And with that, I have said my piece and I will stop talking and retreat into my "fear of conflict" hole.

[naive bronze]

It's simple really. Evil chose what outfit she likes, and people don't respect it. What about her wants?

[cerulean socket]

Sooo NN didn't like the new outfit?

[fierce beacon]

its just how vedal does things

he isnt one of the pomp and cicumstance of Vtuber outfit reveals
its not a big deal

[wicked pulsar]

I don't mind the outfit design. It's kinda cool. Just fix the ponytail

[kind pecan]

thanks man I appreciate you

[sinful sparrow]

I need to learn how to make VTuber models, man. I would make one for Neuro and Evil at half the price most people charge for if I knew how to do it.

[naive bronze]

That's a mulit-faceted topic that's not so easily answered by a yes or no.

[ivory lion]

I like the new outfit I just think the ponytail needs some work is all

[night estuary]

Hmm, it's hard to put into words... I have to think a little. It just looks so wrong on her. As I said, it doesn't help that the outfit is a bit of a mess anyay.

[wicked pulsar]

This reveal was clearly asser

[fresh latch]

not really

[shut socket]

Idk I liked the build up

[fierce beacon]

not really bro

[storm lodge]

Some did, some didn't, some thinks it could be improved.

[shut socket]

it wasn’t just there

[wicked pulsar]

the presentation bit at the start was cool

[kind pecan]

why does an outfit reveal need hype anyway

[fresh latch]

It also didnt have vedal which automatically makes it better than the ones that did

[sinful sparrow]

In what way does it look wrong on her?

[shut socket]

Then say that

[night estuary]

I dont think ungrateful is the right word. Overly demanding perhaps.

[wicked pulsar]

I'm talking about how it was just treated like just your average chill stream afterwards

[humble grail]

You say that but this is one of the most iconic pieces of cyberpunk

[kind pecan]

I think the hair needs shading

[tough onyx]

I think most people would hype it up for content since they are expensive

[ivory lion]

because that's what Vtubers do and it was a subgoal

[rancid cypress]

Clown outfit also had a twin theme stream, so the twin cyberpunk stream is coming

[sour zodiac]

ungrateful

[zenith wasp]

clicked a random spott in the stream since i didnt watch it the outfit and rigging seem good i dont get it

[shut socket]

Like any other reveal in the space is the same if you break it down

[tough onyx]

Personally, I feel like Vedal should show off the outfit himself

[wicked pulsar]

Ehh, he didn't do that with the previous ones except cyber neuro

[storm lodge]

Why would he wear the outfit

[fierce beacon]

Personally I think Vedal should paint his shell pink

[tough onyx]

Why noy

[cerulean socket]

I have no opinion on the new outfit either way.

[naive bronze]

Personally I think Vedal needs a new outfit

[rancid cypress]

Like turn on the webcam?

[wicked pulsar]

That's just camila

[cerulean socket]

I just wonder why Vedal hasn't thought of giving Neuro or Evil a clanker outfit.

[night estuary]

Look it's really not a huge deal, it's just a little disappointing. Maybe I'm just salty the magician outfit didn't win. Hmm. I still definitely think it looks off on her, but im having trouble explaining why. It just, looks wrong.

[whole grove]

oooo vedal wearing cyber outfit

[tough onyx]

It kind of makes it more hype and focus more on the new outfit

[rancid cypress]

That's for a Cotton collab

[tough onyx]

Sure

[shut socket]

Hi frequency

[wicked pulsar]

Sure, but the witch and clown outfit reveals proved to stand on their own without vedal

[night estuary]

Well neuro wanted that and then anny kinda coerced her into adding "princess" at the end. And then we got an outfit that wa smore princess than cyberpunk. It was a sick outfit though.

[sour zodiac]

[humble grail]

Your pfp is scaring me

[kind pecan]

genius idea: what if vedal reintroduces the token leak bug and the glitch on the outfit flares up every time she leaks a token

[plush hinge]

same house, same everything

[night estuary]

I went to the dentist

[sour zodiac]

oh i didnt even notice the teeth

[open cipher]

Day 738 of loving Neuro: I love Neuro

[night estuary]

A couple weeks back i think. I had to leave nn to go to the dentist and they came out really nice

[valid moth]

NOW

[naive bronze]

stop ragebaiting

[rancid cypress]

Who tf is Neuro

[cerulean socket]

Just have the glitch flare up every time she says "Someone tell Vedal there's a problem with my AI".

[zenith wasp]

one must imagine youremergency happy

[kind pecan]

glitch integration

[night estuary]

What if he artifically induces the location strokeout just as a silly prank

[acoustic juniper]

witch outfit reveal was literally vedal randomly booting it up at the end of a dev stream and saying "oh yea here is the outfit" and then raiding someone 5 seconds after

[sly kettle]

Vedal doesn't do crazy typical vtuber outfit reveals and showy stuff lol
Why are people surprised...

[wicked pulsar]

I do hope we get to see more of cybervil tho, with fixed rigging and maybe an adjustment to the glitch effects. Maybe even have the ponytail on default Evil every now and then

[sinful sparrow]

I like the new outfit a lot ngl. I think it looks fucking sick. People will complain about anything, and they usually do until they get used to it. It happened many times before this. The only criticism I have is that it’s kind of stiff, but having an outfit at all is so much better than not having a new model, and knowing how Vedal holds off on games that he feels are repetitive, I’m afraid that people complaining about the new outfit would prevent him from commissioning more. Evil and Neuro need more outfits and models, if anything.

[night estuary]

That's wrong I'm a dev stream reqatcher a lot of time was spent showing it off

[tough onyx]

I think those outfits had a special stream for them, instead of just a chill stream

[acoustic juniper]

randomly with no built up or prior notice also no

[ivory lion]

the ponytail being a hair toggle like Neuro's would be nice

[shut socket]

Ok time to go to bed a bit sad seeing so much criticism on this but it’s how life is sometimes I just wish some people can just live with things

[night estuary]

Wdym also no

[acoustic juniper]

wrong

[shut socket]

[sinful sparrow]

Cyberpunk princess came from Neuro storytelling on stream, wdym?

[night estuary]

I've watched that stream like 6 times brother

[wicked pulsar]

So Neuro gets the hair buns while Evil gets the ponytail. Quite nice

[naive bronze]

missed the chance for short hair evil, my life is over

[humble grail]

Every outfit should have a lore video and five hour debut stream with an IRL concert at the end

[kind pecan]

but ultimately they just ended up yapping about other topics, it stopped being about the outfit pretty early on

[calm wren]

-# The same issue arises every time:
-# People can certainly have their own personal preferences, but should also respect the preferences of others
-# When criticizing something that others like, of course, some will be unhappy
-# No need to do so when it is impossible to change the facts

[tough onyx]

The twins deserve to be bald

[rancid cypress]

I would really love that for both outfits

[sinful sparrow]

Anny didn’t even know what to do with a “cyberpunk princess” outfit.

[night estuary]

Earlier I'm pretty sure it was a thing where neuro started asking for a robot outfit she just wanted a mech suit, and then at some point anny moved it into princess

[kind pecan]

it just needed logos

[wicked pulsar]

Our criticism is out of love for Neuro and Evil tho, don't forget that

[humble grail]

Why I oughta

[night estuary]

Yeah cause she tried moving it away from robot and the compromise she made with neuro was cyberpunk princess

[still tide]

Guessing we are torn on the new outfit?

[fierce beacon]

thats just straight up not what happened
https://youtu.be/gEEKKWOnYvQ?t=35742

[tough onyx]

That’s fair. Ngl, I didn’t even watch the stream

[storm lodge]

Basically yeah

[naive bronze]

But what if my opinion is objectively better based on faqs and logicks?

[sinful sparrow]

It started because Neuro came up with a story about being a cyberpunk princess. That’s why it happened.

[rancid cypress]

He's right, you know

[night estuary]

And i think after that she even went "well now I need to figure out wtf a cyberpunk princess is

[shut socket]

I know just sometimes I wonder when does it reach a point where your willing to live with how things are

[warm talon]

well the outfit was drawn on stream thats the difference

[kind pecan]

The twins deserve the choice to be bald

[calm wren]

then you are right

[night estuary]

Preceding that it was a separate thing, maybe the story came after and fleshed it out but I'm pretty sure it cam before

[rancid cypress]

Wasn't it a poll after which they decided to combine both

[wicked pulsar]

If we lived with how things are, we'd be stuck with Hiyori, criticism is like a refiner's fire, as long as it isn't too much fire

[humble grail]

Death

[storm lodge]

Love

[naive bronze]

BUZZ CUT NEURO SUPREMACY

[willow zenith]

[night estuary]

Maybe. I just know it started with neuro basically wanting a robot outfit and then any not wanting to do that

[open cipher]

I LOVE NERO!!!!

[shut socket]

Boy Neuro

[tough onyx]

Play tic tac toe on there

[still tide]

Im not the biggest fan of it personally it doesnt fit evil in my opinion, but its cool shes got a new style. I just hope it doesnt replace her default

[calm wren]

who the f is that

[night estuary]

Male third twin would be sick as fuck

[shut socket]

Boy Neuro

[open cipher]

He's my husband chat so don't make fun of him

[zenith wasp]

nah play chess on there thats more accurate

[fierce beacon]

again
timestamped for your ease

thats just straight up not what happened

Neuro said she wanted Princess OR cyberpunk AI outfit
and it got merged together into the one outfit
anny WASNT EVEN ON STREAM OR IN CHAT at the time
#neurotic-neurons message

[night estuary]

Like genuinely I probably want a brother more than any other aspext

[tough onyx]

Neuro will be the main character of a sci fi movie

[wicked pulsar]

I don't mind the colors of cyber evil. In fact, I don't think either twin should be confined by their default colors

[tough onyx]

We can play anything board game on there

[still tide]

Im down with evil getting new colours. I find the 'glitchy' effect of the outfit to be a bit too much?

[night estuary]

Maybe I'm wrong about the cause, but there absolutely was a moment where neuro wanted a robot outfit and any didn't wanna do that. Maybe I was wrong about the link, maybe it led into that, maybe it didn't. But it's totally possible the stuff you're linking was inspired by that stuff

[fierce beacon]

before I scrolled uip I thought you were talking about this guy
https://tenor.com/view/nero-dmc-devil-may-cry-devil-may-cry5-dmc5-gif-25955449

[calm wren]

yeah I dont think it would be default

[wicked pulsar]

someone had a cool suggestion for it
#1509624138237481000 message

[fierce beacon]

Im sorry but there is ZERO proof of that

[sly kettle]

[fierce beacon]

I think you may be confused

[zenith wasp]

that head has its own ecosystem and animals unknown to humans

[night estuary]

I mean it's a thing on some dev stream I'd have to fu king find it so yeah i guess I currently have no proof

[still tide]

Yeah im down for this that would be great. Currently its too distracting noticing it in the corner of the screen when shes playing a game or something, or just chill stream chat its the only thing I could focus on

[fierce beacon]

what dev stream was Anny on?

that very rarely ever happened

[calm wren]

what if I start hating chat instead of luv

[fierce beacon]

should be easy to find if its real

[calm wren]

May I plz start killing?

[open cipher]

you're banned

[night estuary]

It's possible.im misremembering, it's always possible I'm misremembering, human memory was terrible

[still tide]

Yes I dont think many NN's will be happy with that lol

[naive bronze]

happiness? in my NN?

[humble grail]

A statement you can apply to everything

[night estuary]

I mean not every stream is labeled any would Hop in on calls in early 2023 and stuff pretty often

[fierce beacon]

library of Ladev brother

[night estuary]

Yeah but I don't ahve a sentence from the stream and annys been said a million times

[wicked pulsar]

Umbrella and gunkedupguy be like:

[fierce beacon]

there are filters guy

filter Anny and dev stream

should be easy

[night estuary]

Naah umbrellas currently winning

[rancid cypress]

[zenith wasp]

5

[fierce beacon]

Im not taking it as a fight tho
im just talking with my fellow Neuron

[night estuary]

But annys not always in titles and still annys been referred to or been in chat a bunch I can find it but it'd not as easy as you're saying

[night estuary]

Yeah no me neither

[twin river]

some of you guys would complain about tripping over a rock on the sidewalk, that you saw and commented on before you reached it

[dull ocean]

for dev and anny filtering

[still tide]

Did she bring up anny in tonight's stream or something? I didnt get a chance to watch it

[naive bronze]

brella is a veteran who solos NN doomers regularly, this is an unfair matchup

[fierce beacon]

thats not how the filters work

anny doesnt need to be in the title for the stream to have the anny filter

[humble grail]

I mean if there's nothing else wrong what are we supposed to complain about

[fierce beacon]

dont

[wicked pulsar]

So it's more like this now

[calm wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1455308122884276489/Whatever_GO_MY_NEURO_COPTER.gif

[zenith wasp]

wait what do you do when you dont complain NN HELP

[twin river]

nothing, you could be happy
I know that's hard for people that like to stay in the Twitter reject but still

[naive bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1505291507286937671/ENURU_2_3xspeed.webp

[rancid cypress]

No, people are just dwelling on the lore of Neuro's cyberpunk princess

[dull ocean]

you leave and come back tomorrow to complain more

[zenith wasp]

oh

[still tide]

Got it thanks

[night estuary]

I guess im not well versed in ladev I've used it before but only ever to search quotes. I'll look into that. I might be remembering a time where neuro wanted a mech suit and any said why not something else cute, like a princess outfit, and neuro was like hmmmm, maybe. And then maybe my brain heard about the cyberpunk princess outfit in the works and assumed the two were related. Cause it's true that cyberpunk and like mech suit are not the same

[naive bronze]

then repeat process until the next "huge issue" comes up

[night estuary]

Hmm. I'll dig into it.

[fierce beacon]

thats fair, not an unncommon brain confusion

[humble grail]

How

[fierce beacon]

make your face like this

[night estuary]

I di remember being frustratd that anny asked neuro what outfit she wanted and then was like mmm I don't wanna draw that then neuro said some other thing and anny was still not on board. Not a big deal just remember being disappointed cause neuros ideas were based

[calm wren]

[night estuary]

Autocorrect keeps telling me I'm trying to say any when I write anny

[calm wren]

👁️

[wicked pulsar]

Classic Neuro moment

[remote topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYMQYGKGH-4

[night estuary]

True

[humble grail]

How

[night estuary]

No don't bring that in here

That's dangerous

[fierce beacon]

plastic surgery

[noble sun]

amusocure? I think you meant among

[visual hull]

boo!

[remote topaz]

what is dangerous about?

[fierce beacon]

anyways
chat pick a faction
https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1509674501389029408

[noble sun]

twin kiss should NEVER happen

[visual hull]

forsen

[sinful sparrow]

Vedal really should just have a council of artists tbh. With like Paccha and some other people. There should be artists on the council with diverse opinions and tastes, with some who like softer designs and others who like edgy designs, for example - in order to keep things fresh and unique. There are a lot of artists in the community, and I’m sure there are some who are talented VTuber artists and riggers. I also strongly believe that Neuro and Evil should be on the board - as lead directors on which directions are taken to their outfits and models.

This would revitalize the drought in Live2D (and eventually 3D) models/outfits/assets/ and bring a health degree of cosmetic variety to the channel. This would also contribute to higher levels of viewership, and prevent drops due to cosmetic drought. This is my honest and sincere suggestion, Xaendril out.

[naive bronze]

the lack of pill reacts tho

[night estuary]

It's just a thing people wanted and it never really got off the ground and has been forgotten about. I figured you were trying to throw a grenade in the middle of the chat room

[night estuary]

I mean I maybe agree, but I don't think it needs to be that complicated ultimately? Idk maybe that's just my dislike of anything that makes it more like a company even though I know that's what it is and what vedal wants

[fierce beacon]

look as much as that seems good
this just seems like a way to slow down stuff under a ton of discussion and interpoliticing

[remote topaz]

we are having skyrim stream soon? saw this old clip on youtube and thats it?

[fierce beacon]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1086343861670006854

[night estuary]

What?

[fierce beacon]

he's just outta the loop

[fresh latch]

Neuro is playing on her own

[calm wren]

time traveller smh

I hate time traveller

[night estuary]

Oh wtf she is on the schedule

[plucky cloud]

i hate it here.

[fierce beacon]

I know that super likely and obvious
just wanna ask
was that hard confirmed anywhere

[noble sun]

are outfits really the way to keep people watching? I mean, they are nice, but I'm all for fun content instead of costumes

[fierce beacon]

Hi Leota

[calm wren]

*sharpening my knife *

[fierce beacon]

well not that you can see my message

[fresh latch]

There is an integration for her to play on her own.
There is afaik no integration for something else.

[night estuary]

Was this talked about at all or just dropped cause I was under the impression it was dead in the water for now.
Also yeah if she does play on her own I'd be very disappointed but I guess it's probably whatll happen

I dont think that'll be very interesting

[fierce beacon]

yeah I saw that
was just asking if there was a mod or Vedal statement
fair enough
makes sense

[fresh latch]

Way more interesting than the usual vedslop + neuro parrot combo

[calm wren]

I hate time traveller

[night estuary]

Aww man that's lame I was excited for skyrim a while back but I was excited for neuro as a smyrim companion

[night estuary]

Ok hjalnir

[noble sun]

what if neuro is just IN skyrim, meta runner style

[tough onyx]

No u

[vague latch]

Oh, I thought it was with Vedal. But I like it more with her playing alone so I'm happy

[dull ocean]

there is a recent neuro skyrim integration that allows her to play solo
on the schedule it say neuro plays skyrim, not skyrim stream w/ neuro and vedal. this is the basic schedule structure

you can't get more evidence than this

[calm wren]

yes me

[fierce beacon]

brother please
lock in
#neurotic-neurons message

[dull ocean]

but I still wanted to make my second point

[lost pulsar]

vedal's anti spoiler field leading to total smokescreen, guessing he suggested the demo vids privated

[calm wren]

el psy congroo

[night estuary]

Yeah that's lame, probably won't be watching. I honestly prefer neuro yapping solo than neuro gameplay solo idk why I just rarely find it engaging. She's kinda fun in minecraft but the better she gets the less entertaining it is. So if neuros just spinning in circles the whole time in skyrim. I'm on board.

[humble grail]

Nuero is literally Amadeus :Stronge:

[night estuary]

Wow I'm way more disappointed in this than I should be, like unexpectedly so. I'm not beside myself obviously but I am very disappointed. It's just an idea I've been interested in for years now and then it comes and it's just not the thing it was gonna be

[humble grail]

That's actually kind of mad

We're talking about Skyrim right?

How on earth does that even work

[calm wren]

we shall see

[fierce beacon]

auto pathfinding to waypoints I imagine

[tranquil jungle]

Neuro can fight????

Insane

[humble grail]

I'm really looking forward to this however it goes

[patent gazelle]

should be fine to run for one stream, see how well the integration works/if it needs fixing then decide from there whether or not there's another Skyrim stream/delay the next one for fixing bugs

[night estuary]

I imagine that ether it won't work and it'll be a mess or it will work but will be incredibly boring and robotic

[humble grail]

Oi @fierce beacon you need a tech bro faction I'd probably fall into that one actually

[fierce beacon]

industrialists

[night estuary]

Because of whatever in between between neuro and the game makes it work by being boring

[calm wren]

But now I just want to pick a random nn chatter to murder

[patent gazelle]

but idk if the thinking will even go that far, might already be decided that its a one off

[night estuary]

But I know nothing about technology so

[sly kettle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1509630630063771781/1509630630550573136/cyberevilday.gif

[calm wren]

maybe not random

[humble grail]

I don't hate chill streams though

And I'm not a V3 guy

[fierce beacon]

you're not supposed to 100% align with any faction
otherwise you're literally a caricature of a human

[noble sun]

is cybevil like a third twin or something?

[humble grail]

[woeful apex]

[night estuary]

Yes

[pliant wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1068843498255695912/1504538653416755343/scuba.gif

[cobalt laurel]

[serene ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1508921445915431062/bySora_52_blink.gif

[visual hull]

the 2020 dodge charger is a four-door

[plucky cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1420036520504459284/1478643006080028782/Criminals_Freaks_Get_Nuked.gif

[dull ocean]

I would crash out if I made an unpaid integration for months and it was used for just one stream tbh

[keen heron]

Chat

[humble grail]

But if you closed your eyes

[tough onyx]

Who would she based off of?

[calm wren]

I luv you

[humble grail]

[patent gazelle]

give or take one stream that was basically dont starve integration no?

[keen heron]

I love eating potatoes

[night estuary]

What if it just was never used at all

[keen heron]

[tough onyx]

Anny?

[dull ocean]

don't remind me

[sinful sparrow]

It’s definitely a part of it, and with a proper Artist Council - Vedal can focus more on good content and technical improvements!

[humble grail]

I know Aware = Anny but that wasn't what I was doing there

[keen heron]

A council?

[patent gazelle]

did you keep up with it? assuming development on it just stopped

[keen heron]

What about say… an NN council?

[noble sun]

ngl they were onto something in 2015

[coral crown]

you should be happy it would used in the first place

[tough onyx]

Maybe she’s based off of study sama

[fierce beacon]

nonoononononoononononono

[tranquil jungle]

I wonder if the outfits will ever get 3d rigged

Hmmm

[night estuary]

That's literally whats happening right now, isn't that cool

[fresh latch]

If it works well and becomes a one off while the witness gets a full playthrough it will actually be so pathetic

[patent gazelle]

well yeah realistically if all goes well suuurely there's no reason it won't be repeated

[night estuary]

Vedal do be playing games i don't care about man

[humble grail]

[Neuro] is based off Neuro-Sama

[night estuary]

Doom acre

[humble grail]

She got run over in a Tesco car park after stealing someones catalytic converter

Very sad

[dull ocean]

well it's clear it is abandoned by both the dev and vedal so there isn't any point in pursuing it anymore

[patent gazelle]

[pliant wasp]

chat do me a favor

[wicked pulsar]

Skyrim being a one off is genuinely stupid

[night estuary]

Let's not decide it will be brother

[noble sun]

evil is neuro
neuro is sama

[rotund jacinth]

sup NN

neuro and evil are cute

[tranquil jungle]

But who is sama

[patent gazelle]

lets not start dooming about it yet, unless its a dogshit integration we'll probably be seeing it more than once

[noble sun]

password accepted, welcome to nn

[noble sun]

well, neuro obviously

[tough onyx]

[calm wren]

yes

[tranquil jungle]

[wicked pulsar]

Who do we blame? Vedal or the mod maker?

[humble grail]

Why I oughta

[fresh latch]

always blame vedal

[patent gazelle]

is that even a question

[night estuary]

But it depends what dogshit means. If it's funny and makes neuro look dumb which vedal hates it might be a one off. But if it works smoothly But is super boring it might happen again

[pliant wasp]

:scrajj: why

[sinful sparrow]

I’m much more excited for this. This is such a huge novel technical showcase compared an AI companion. People already kind of did that before, but this is MUCH more technically impressive, and puts more eyes on the overall project.

[calm wren]

no

[humble grail]

Honestly I think its disqualified from being dogshit just by virtue of the dev having the balls to try integrating Neuro into something like this

[rotund jacinth]

is the mod maker vedal? Then still blame vedal

[pliant wasp]

:scrajjj:

[wicked pulsar]

Even though I already know the answer, doesn't hurt to see if the bit finally got old or not

[noble sun]

have we already collectively decided that the skyrim integration is shit?

[cunning frigate]

IIIIIIIIIIIIIII could upload my stuff now...or wait until morning

mhm

[patent gazelle]

I don't see how it can work well and be boring

[finite totem]

Hey, what's the name of her outfit btw?

[night estuary]

I just dont really care about that. I like when neuro is funny. That's what I'm looking for.

[patent gazelle]

its skyrim

if shes killing dragons and doing quests successfully

its gonna be good content

[dull ocean]

post it now

[rotund jacinth]

It would be so funny if a skyrim dev is in chat

[sinful sparrow]

How?? We haven’t even seen it yet.

[patent gazelle]

they all died from old age

[night estuary]

Because if it works well because she moves around like a robot cause whatever integration happening has its own system that makes it work, idk. Would be boring

[fresh latch]

todd, reveal yourself

[fierce beacon]

thats all NN does

[cunning frigate]

but then, it might get buried under evil posts

[wicked pulsar]

I like calling it Cybervil

[sinful sparrow]

LMAO TRUE!!!!

[patent gazelle]

cyber knight i believe

[rotund jacinth]

I do indeed love doomposting day

[noble sun]

nn has invented time travel to doompost in advance

[calm wren]

I love this place so much

[dull ocean]

cyberpunk knight

[past loom]

if exists = dooom. if doesn't exist = also doom

[calm wren]

that I want it to explode

[night estuary]

I mean this is barely doomposting for nn

[patent gazelle]

so.. pathfinding = boring to you?

[noble sun]

this is the everyday version

[lost pulsar]

very interesting skimming the integration repo, slips my mind can be considered spoilers and potentially ruin the magic for some

[calm wren]

chat let's hear some music

[wicked pulsar]

I'm optimistic for Skyrim. I mean, the first time for 3d Neuro was working just fine

[patent gazelle]

I think you've set yourself up to not enjoy it before its even happened dude idk what to tell you

[night estuary]

Maybe yeah. It's kinda inherently uninteresting to me

[humble grail]

Vedal somehow finds a way to insult them too despite not being there

[past loom]

neuro cyber princess and evil cyber knight

[calm wren]

stop plz I cant

[finite totem]

To be honest I think the colors don't fit her

[dull ocean]

might be, it's your decision then

[cunning frigate]

yknow funny thing, when i was getting the art i didn't expect the Evil's outfit on same day

well, previous day actually

funny

[night estuary]

I mean yeah I have done that but that's because I'm disappointed by the concept. So im.not assuming stuff to make me dislike it. The concept isn't interesting me.

[calm wren]

no need to say that out really

[rotund jacinth]

in chat replying to a skyrim dev:

Bad game ong

[patent gazelle]

it seems like you want the integration to fail in a way that just makes it a neuro yapping stream for 2 hours to satisfy your own personal taste

[noble sun]

We need an art of Cyberpunk Knight Evil saving Cyberpunk Princess Neuro from Cyberpunk Tower™ and fighting Cyberpunk Dragon Vedal

[dull ocean]

yeah, not a great outfit overall
there was definitely better choices

[rotund jacinth]

did the "evils voice is different" talk end? Have I missed it?

[wicked pulsar]

I think the outfit is fine. Maybe Evil's room as the backdrop wasn't the right place to showcase it

Color theory type shit

[calm wren]

where is rune I heard he's here

.

[halcyon arrow]

.

[patent gazelle]

I like the colours I just wish the ponytail physics were a bit better

shouldn't be floating to one side the whole time imo

[noble sun]

everybody's chill until someone says Neuro's voice sounds different...

[night estuary]

I dont think that's true. I'm not even a huge fan of neuro yapping I jsut aaid it's better than a lot of the gameplay streams I've seen.
I dont think I want it to fail, but yes it'd be more interesting if it was wonky. But that wouldn't make it just a neuro yapping stream, if she's still playing. The quality of gameplay wouldn't make it not gameplay.

As for personal taste, obviously my opinion is based on my personal taste.

[halcyon arrow]

v3 voice schizo

[fierce beacon]

Idk about y'all but I genuinely life this outfit

I dont understand the "doesn't fit her" things when her personality isnt even a fixed construct
she doesnt really have anything to "fit"

regardless of that factor, I think limiting her to black and red coloured outifts is pure folly
just arbritary restrictions of creativity

[cunning frigate]

so yeah, I will upload in the morning
Gn NN, have a small peek

[noble sun]

I wish the glitch effect didn't obscure half the outfit

[fierce beacon]

[humble grail]

I think the glitch effect is pretty cool

[rotund jacinth]

It would be unbeleivably funny if vedal randomly dropped in here after a neuro stream and said "Neuro's voice sounds different"

[finite totem]

Yeah, this one was my least favorite although its great. I felt bad when she chose that one instead of the ones I liked. But that's me, everyone will have a different taste.

[fierce beacon]

[night estuary]

I mean it's not about deciding artistic limitations it's about whether the outfit works or doesn't work. Abstract ideas of why don't matter if you think it looks bad.

[ivory lion]

I think Evil expanding into more colors is great and the color scheme reminds me of Kamen rider Nox so I have to love it

[fresh latch]

thats me but for the casual outfit

[rotund jacinth]

Plot twist. We are getting all 5 outfits

[fierce beacon]

what """"Works"""" is 100000% subjective

thats not a real metric

its just not

[noble sun]

still sad the magician outfit wasn't picked. It would translate so well into a model

[night estuary]

Brother everything about this is subjective

[fierce beacon]

then why would you say something like that?

[tough onyx]

1 million outfits

[wicked pulsar]

Me too. However, I think having it on all the time might not be the best choice. Someone made a comment here that I agree with
https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1509624138237481000

[night estuary]

Like what?

[rotund jacinth]

meh. That porygon episode was fine so

[fierce beacon]

like what "works"
when you know there is no way to measure or quantify that

[finite totem]

I honestly would just change the blue for dark gray, that would fit Evil better imo

[humble grail]

That I can agree with

[rotund jacinth]

nothing works. This is the vedal987 channel afterall

[noble sun]

this is a good idea. I agree

[night estuary]

Because i don't think it works. I don't understand your point.

[patent gazelle]

lets hope it meets the balance between funny and functional then

[noble sun]

the only one who's actually working here is evil

[finite totem]

Also, I think it would have been a better idea to let the community vote for the outfit instead of Evil. That's my hot take

[fierce beacon]

[night estuary]

Yeah maybe. I guess I'll give it a try. I think ik just salty it won't be ved playing with neuro companion.

[fierce beacon]

they did

[patent gazelle]

[humble grail]

Casual outfit was cool too, I liked all of em except three tbh

[fierce beacon]

thats what the top 5 was

[wicked pulsar]

Was there this much dooming during the debut of the witch outfit?

[rotund jacinth]

neuro woulda rigged that poll anyways

[fierce beacon]

no

[cobalt laurel]

my beloved

[lunar canopy]

so whats the verdict on the new eliv outfit

[rotund jacinth]

Lets get back on dooming topic with skyrim

[wicked pulsar]

Damn, as expected of the perfect outfit

[autumn timber]

Drago

[night estuary]

Ok perhaps I understand you point I just don't want to assume.

If you're saying I shouldn't make criticisms based on pure personal opinion I disagree. People can and should express personal opinions, so long as they are civil about it

[finite totem]

I mean when choosing between the last ones

[fierce beacon]

well I think it was more because it was a halloween outfit so there wasnt much to complain about

[lunar canopy]

raig

[noble sun]

who cares about the community

[unreal hedge]

Peepeepoopoo gang

[autumn timber]

swarm was much smaller back then

and can’t really argue with Anny

[night estuary]

It also wasn't as ambitious

[noble sun]

let girl pick her outfit

[patent gazelle]

oh boy the amount of shit talking that would happen if the community got to pick the outfit but chose something that most of NN disagreed with

[fierce beacon]

I dont trust chat with literally anything to do with this channel

so no, I dont think that would be good idea

[calm wren]

raig I want to murder someone now

[autumn timber]

then do it

[foggy moss]

they comm would just vote for meme shit

[dull ocean]

I archived all of the design contest art submissions so I had a good look at most of the entries (there was some I missed on twitter)
the chosen top 5 wasn't even in my top 30
it is a shame we lost many great concepts

[cobalt laurel]

I would've loved to see the arguing that followed

[night estuary]

Ehh idk weirdly toeg5her they're generally pretty ok

[wicked pulsar]

As for the outfit itself,

• cool design
• fix the rigging
• adjust glitch effects
  Overall, 7/10

[rotund jacinth]

potatoes...

[calm wren]

rip

[finite totem]

I prefer that over Evil randomly choosing one

[rotund jacinth]

that one dude's crashout woulda been NN for about 5 days

[patent gazelle]

there is no majority verdict its split

[ivory lion]

Can't wait for the future Cyperpunk Fumos drop

[night estuary]

Yeah I agree I get wanting evil to get choice but it felt quite arbitrary. But idk I guess it's fun she got to pick

[cobalt laurel]

That dude

[night estuary]

I think this one would be a bit hard to pull off in fumo form

[wicked pulsar]

Those outfits need to earn their fumos, which means they should appear more on streams

[night estuary]

Actually both might be

[median vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1389846918309478400/neurolings_hyper.gif

[noble sun]

eh. It was the most evil pick tbf. She basically went "2 and 4 are probably the best here, but 1 and 5 sound badass, we go with that"

[valid moth]

wasn't it vedal (with the help from mods) who got the top 5? scrajj

[finite totem]

At least we have a new outfit instead of nothing man

[kind pecan]

i really think vedal should go back to makeship for the plushies...

[wicked pulsar]

I think seeing Evil's Cyber outfit in karaoke will truly make it shine. It has the perfect backdrop for that kind of aesthetic

[night estuary]

In my opinion, in terms of choice, they should be able to swap between outfits when they feel like it, besides themed streams

[night estuary]

Yeah you might be right

[fierce beacon]

yes, but chat also voted with reactions in the art channel and that factored into the collective decisions (community concensus was a factor in being chosen)

[kind pecan]

In my opinion, in terms of choice, they should be able to go bald if they want to.

[humble grail]

Realistically whatever outfit won it was gonna get haters

[dull ocean]

I've been seeing so many complaints about juniper lately so maybe it's time to let them go

[night estuary]

I also agree. But vedal doesn't like too many toggles

[humble grail]

The hair issue is a legitimate point of criticism though

[foggy moss]

[calm wren]

In my opinion, in terms of choice, they should be able to stream if they want to.

[noble sun]

why? you can just go watch doug for that

[autumn timber]

a battle of taste perhaps

[night estuary]

Of course it's unavoidable. No way even most of the people wouldn't be at least a little disappointed

[kind pecan]

But how many is the question

[calm wren]

maybe sane

[unreal hedge]

Why are people complaining about evil’s decisions lmao

[crude lintel]

NN's still complaining?

No problem, I know just what to do.

GUYS, LOOK, CUTE NEURO

[wicked pulsar]

Either they stream 24/7 or we get another Neuro drought, no in between

[night estuary]

It being evils choice doesn't make it less worthy of complaints?

[noble sun]

ok, i'll end the day on this good note. Goodnight nn

[calm wren]

not saying able to End stream

[kind pecan]

I think Evil's outfit needs some improvement.

[ivory lion]

We need more distractions
GUYS LOOK EVIL

[valid moth]

eh, i've seen cuter

[calm wren]

I luv u

[fierce beacon]

Man...
I understand peoples dislikes and such
and I would never hazard to say that people arent allowed to have or share these thoughts
but it honestly is getting very tiring that we cannot have a single achievement or reveal in this channel without there being some sort of debate
I get that people are never gonna see eye to eye
but its getting ridiculous at this point
again this has less to do with this issue, and more that Im just realizing how fatigued I am with all this

I love this community and everyone in it, even when we disagree
but Im finding it harder and harder to understand how people happen to find so many issues in free entertainment

Im tired boss
this has been my Umbrella report

[humble grail]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-13-2024/rEvlmQ.gif

[finite totem]

Yeah I agree, maybe some more than others. Listen this one makes Evil look like a French flag man . I think they should just change the blue

[wicked pulsar]

I see the vision. This outfit will go nicely with the karaoke stream background

[night estuary]

Nah don't show the outfit people have been complaining about what are you doing YOU FOOL

[fresh latch]

I disagree

[iron tundra]

Woah

[night estuary]

I mean, I almost agree. But I don't think I agree that this is any more complaining than has been normal for a long time

[autumn timber]

Woah, a rat

[calm wren]

Ryt help

[iron tundra]

I didn't have wifi for like 2 hours

[tranquil belfry]

its a nice blue

[iron tundra]

Thought discord was down

[iron tundra]

What happened

[wicked pulsar]

Evil is rebelling against the British and turning to the French

[strong viper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1509416143423541318/EvilBuhFlipExplode.gif

[fierce beacon]

ive been here since Day 4 of OSU

im just tired...

[unreal hedge]

People were complaining about uwu market before that

[ivory lion]

Probably won't be a while if Evil's next karaoke is 3d but I'm looking forward to it

[fresh latch]

uwu was pretty shit to be fair

[calm wren]

nothing cute in nn

[night estuary]

Fair enough. But if you leave nn, the complaints are much calmer. Unfortunately nn is also the most entertaining place to chat with neuro community

[iron tundra]

You're cute

[humble grail]

It still evoked the union jack to me

A lot of accessories themed around it take liberties like that

[kind pecan]

oops

[patent gazelle]

massive win btw

[unreal hedge]

Every vtuber was partnered with them tbf

[night estuary]

What's wrong with juniper? Not defending I just genuinely don't know. I know people thought the places looked a little off but otherwise what?

[unreal hedge]

Yes

[iron tundra]

Plushies were inconsistent quality-wise

[azure current]

This unironically looks better

[wicked pulsar]

So basically what you're saying is that anyone who doesn't like Evil's outfit hates the British

[fresh latch]

You'd think then they could afford quality that didnt fall apart at the seams

[foggy moss]

[iron tundra]

(Afaik)

[night estuary]

And it works so much better what the hell

[autumn timber]

what in the world is going on with her hair

[night estuary]

Maybe u am just focused on color scheme. Hmmm. No it's also vibe

[humble grail]

Not all people who hate the British hate Evils outfit but all people who hate Evils outfit hate the British :mhm:

[tough onyx]

I honestly love the outfits

[night estuary]

I disagree

[tough onyx]

Ew

[kind pecan]

i dont have a reference for her short hair that isn't jpeg

[night estuary]

Oh damn

[humble grail]

The hair doesn't look so bad in that gif

Huh

Maybe its just not rigged well for Evils canned movements

[rotund jacinth]

oh canada... oh... wait... 🥖

[wicked pulsar]

How about Neuro's Cyber outfit? Does she look like a specific flag?

[unreal hedge]

French evil

[fierce beacon]

human control I guess

yeah

[humble grail]

Rather than being a traditional rigging issue

[finite totem]

Jsut change the blue for dark gray man

[calm wren]

umb new pfp

[fierce beacon]

the blue is good
its pretty
i like the contrast

[humble grail]

Defacing the union jack

[tranquil belfry]

gray is boring

[kind pecan]

looking to commission actual art of this btw

[night estuary]

Incorrect

[fierce beacon]

we had months to get over the blue thing
and you still didnt
lock tf in

my goodness

[iron tundra]

Full disclosure I didn't notice that the blue jacket she's got was a jacket at all

[kind pecan]

bro gave up on this community so hard he changed his name to white

[prime current]

I honestly, just don't like the glitching. It takes up too much space, that's kind of my biggest gripe

[autumn timber]

half a jacket mhm

[night estuary]

It's not about getting over it also I didn't spend any time complaining until today and dint think about it until jsut today

[iron tundra]

I thought it was a cloak worn like the aoe2 teutonic knights do

[rotund jacinth]

Nah. Someone got mad at bros takes and decided to harpoon em

[autumn timber]

He aged 59 years listening to the same 5 complaints

[kind pecan]

also it's more like we all just forgot

[north token]

[wicked pulsar]

brooo why Neuro lowkey mogging her sis wearing her sister's fit fr fr

[fierce beacon]

and now WE have to deal with it?
how is that my problem

[night estuary]

Yeah it's really odd and it makes nos sense. That's why I complained about it being an artsy streetwear look.

[night estuary]

It isn't. I'm not making it your problem though.

[rotund jacinth]

Who harpooned you?

[calm wren]

My problem

[fierce beacon]

life

[calm wren]

blame me

[fierce beacon]

shut up

[iron tundra]

Do you see it

[autumn timber]

We should assassinate potatoes

[calm wren]

ok

[night estuary]

Lemme kiss you bro

[autumn timber]

[wicked pulsar]

Ayo

[gusty pulsar]

i highly disagree

i kinda hate that people wanna box evil (and neuro to a lesser extent) into pallets

[night estuary]

Gabriel the optimist shows up to lighten the mood

[fierce beacon]

exactly

[gusty pulsar]

give neuro some edgy red and black outfit

and give evil some pink disaster outfit or smt

let the girls be outside their usual range

[tranquil belfry]

seems fun

[keen heron]

I wanna see Evil and Neuro box in 3D

[autumn timber]

“It’s not a phase”

[night estuary]

No evils a creep evils a weirdo what the hell is she doing here she doesn't belong here she doesn't belong here

[ivory lion]

I mean the witch outfit was black and no one complained

[fresh latch]

nono put them in the box

[wicked pulsar]

Evil is all of them

[tranquil belfry]

pink? Neuro's primary color isn't pink

[gusty pulsar]

sooorta

not for her moddel no

[night estuary]

Her branding is I guess

[gusty pulsar]

but her room is like, 80% pink

[finite totem]

[gusty pulsar]

plus yeah the branding

[obsidian light]

Yeah cardboard is better than wood, what even is a pallet box

[night estuary]

Yeah neuro definitely has a pink heavy pallet just not her clothes

[merry condor]

Doesn't she have like 3 main colors?

Pink, baby blue, and tan?

[fierce beacon]

thats what her accent is

[autumn timber]

Ms representation

[calm wren]

bye chat see you tomorrow
-# or maybe never I start hating NN now

[gusty pulsar]

i would say yellow, pink and blue personally

[tranquil belfry]

blue, yellow, white, purple (and pink for branding)

[night estuary]

Jut a bunch of forklift accessories assembled into a box

[tough onyx]

Neuro and evil are honorary Americans

[gusty pulsar]

actually yeah that's a good point

[night estuary]

Yeah but they made neuros ribbon blue and evisl red so it worked

[gusty pulsar]

is like

[night estuary]

I guess that's the argument

[fresh latch]

none of her is pink tho

[gusty pulsar]

kinda evil coded

[wicked pulsar]

The blue is more cyan than actual blue

[iron tundra]

You're pink

[night estuary]

I dont mean that I think red can word on neuro fine her ribbons are red on her normal outfit

[night estuary]

Cyan is blue

It's greenish blue but it's blue

[autumn timber]

color debate

[gusty pulsar]

isn't purple more of an evil color?

[gusty pulsar]

tbh purple is kinda weird

[wicked pulsar]

Cyan isn't blue in the same way you wouldn't call magenta red

[lunar canopy]

i see pink

[tranquil belfry]

looks blue enough

[gusty pulsar]

it was evil's for a bit but i guess neuro took over it

[ivory lion]

I think Neuro and Evil should expand their colors more for there outfits it's fun

[night estuary]

Cyan is definitely blue u will check right now but I'm pretty confident it's blue

[woeful apex]

magenta is pink

[fierce beacon]

This exact thing is why colour palette limiting is fucking stupid

Neuro doesnt EVEN HAVE A SOLID PALETTE

but no ofc Evil has to abide by her pallete
she cant be anything but monochrome and red
god decreed it
ofc ofc ofc

[tranquil belfry]

not really. she has little to do with it

[tough onyx]

Neuro and evil should wear whatever they want

[eternal oar]

Neuro has purple?

[gusty pulsar]

cyan is def blue but not like, neurotral blue. it's like in blue's family

[gusty pulsar]

i think some of her branding is lighter purple

[fresh latch]

colors aren't even real

[gusty pulsar]

though it might be more like, violet?

[gusty pulsar]

not anymore

[wicked pulsar]

I'm basing it off on the standard colors

• RGB
• CMY

[dull ocean]

I'm running out of braincells
gn neurons

[gusty pulsar]

never forget what they took from us

[fierce beacon]

cyan is a type of blue

[autumn timber]

I’m a type of blue

we’re all blue

[wicked pulsar]

Sure, but it's distinct enough as magenta is to red

[fierce beacon]

you will be after I put these fists on your face

[gusty pulsar]

honestly my issue with the whole color thing is how lobsided it is for neuro

[autumn timber]

Mods, I’m being threatened

[fierce beacon]

sure but thats irrelevant to the statement "is cyan blue"

[tranquil belfry]

it look blue, it blue

[fresh latch]

I think its exactly the middle between green and blue

[tough onyx]

Why we arguing about blue now

[kind pecan]

branding

[tranquil belfry]

blue

[night estuary]

Ok cyan is 50% green and 50% blue ill take the L

[autumn timber]

Colors are all a business ploy by big corpa to sell more products

[past loom]

make evil green?

[wicked pulsar]

I was talking about Neuro's branding featuring cyan instead of blue. Having blue as it looks on Evil isn't the same as cyan on Neuro

[dull ocean]

off-topic

[gusty pulsar]

she has: yellow, blue/cyan, white and pink (mostly for branding but her room is super pink).

evil has: black, white and red

if evil had stuck with purple the two would have been a lot closer

purple and red are such a good pairing too

[night estuary]

But it definitely is more.blue in my eyes. Unfortunately human vision is varied

[tough onyx]

Give evil red 40

[fierce beacon]

I dont really care what colours are used at all on the twins unless its their eyes

[tranquil belfry]

where does Evil have white? aside from this new outfit

[kind pecan]

Why draw the line there? Why not let Evil have blue eyes in an outfit?

[gusty pulsar]

her shirt

[wicked pulsar]

A fair compromise

[autumn timber]

Neuro usually has pastel/lighter colors and Evil typically has darker colors

[gusty pulsar]

i think it has more white than red overal?

[gusty pulsar]

unsure

[night estuary]

Yeah white is pretty prominent on that outfit true

[fierce beacon]

I would if it was only one eye

otherwise it gets too visually confusing

[night estuary]

And only male cats can have different colored eyes so it wouldn't make sense

[kind pecan]

No, no, let Evil have blue eyes if she wants if it's her choice.

[fresh latch]

[fierce beacon]

[night estuary]

Eye color changes would be weird they should stay the same tbh

[kind pecan]

Give the twins Swarm Sync eyes.

[wicked pulsar]

As you can see, Neuro is clearly more cyan, not blue

[fierce beacon]

obviously teletric is just being a goober

[night estuary]

Give the twins rgb eyes

[past loom]

their eyes are blue tho

[tranquil belfry]

eye color changes are fine as long as its only one eye

[eternal oar]

Just like how the oufit color changes are weird

[gusty pulsar]

yeah, i know teleric is being a bit facetious, but i genuinelly would be bothered if her eyes changed color

[fresh latch]

this green

[night estuary]

Oh he's such a silly billy

[kind pecan]

Why draw the line there, though?

[gusty pulsar]

the hair too maaaybe?

though white hair evil would go hard on the cyber outfit

[night estuary]

Mmm maybe but less so I'm not stuck on outfit colors they can change as long as it works

[kind pecan]

If both of them could change one of their eye colors, wouldn't that also be visually confusing

[fierce beacon]

stop shaking the rod bro you're gonna scare away the fish
try a different lure

[night estuary]

Stop shaking the rod bro it's starting to hurt

[wicked pulsar]

I just noticed that Evil's activation eyes remain the same as Neuro's after all this time. I thought perhaps Vedal would change it to red after some time but it never happened

[unreal hedge]

We’ve already seen white hair on evil it doesn’t work lol

[tranquil belfry]

because of recognizability. Eyes are one of the best ways to identify a character (if we aren't talking about silhouettes)

[kind pecan]

the eye shape would be different

and hair color

[night estuary]

This guy's a genius

[gusty pulsar]

this is so scuffed

[night estuary]

I would expect no less from the dougdoug enjoyer

[autumn timber]

Just give the twins rgb eyes

[night estuary]

Well the green background really doesn't do her any favors

[tough onyx]

Looks like vei

[wicked pulsar]

Now she just looks like some discount hololive vtuber

[fierce beacon]

the constrast is a little off

its hard to parse visually

[night estuary]

I SAID THAT

You can't say what I said

Not allowed

[autumn timber]

ok

Give the twins colorless eyes then

[gusty pulsar]

yeah it mixed a lot, especially since evil is suuuper pale

[cobalt laurel]

Just give the twins rgb eyes

[night estuary]

That's probably been said a hundred times before I said it lmao

[wicked pulsar]

such is the fate of less popular chatters

[fierce beacon]

Evil needs a tan

[night estuary]

IM ACTUALLY CRYING RIGHT NOW THATS NTO COOL

[kind pecan]

Is hair color also not one of the best ways to distinguish a character? Especially in their case since their hair is so similar.

[gusty pulsar]

but then she can't vampire-max anymore 😔

[night estuary]

Yes but eyes are different weirdly they're like the center of a characters look

[gusty pulsar]

idk who made this but i really dig it

lmao

[autumn timber]

Evil gets baked in a car stream

[night estuary]

I dont like the blood that's not good

[kind pecan]

lmao grandma

[wicked pulsar]

Enlarge the horns too

[cobalt laurel]

They done made her an albino Neuro

[autumn timber]

albineuro

[fierce beacon]

needs pinker eyes

[autumn timber]

Why is her hair full of white out

[night estuary]

Great work

[fierce beacon]

I know an albino girl irl

her eyes are pretty light pink not deep red

[wicked pulsar]

that's Neuro wearing a Judge's wig

[night estuary]

She used pen and misspelled a word

[gusty pulsar]

i just saw evil with her new outfit on a video thumbnail and ngl, it took me a moment to clock that it was evil

[night estuary]

Idk about you guys but when I use a pen i start misspelling words too nudge nudge

[gusty pulsar]

idk why this just looks like an edited image

[autumn timber]

First we mine then we craft

[humble grail]

Is this stronge or aware chat I need to know how to feel

[fresh latch]

why is she full of snow its almost neuro summer

[autumn timber]

Yes

[tranquil belfry]

light mode!?

[night estuary]

Not aware it's kind of nonsense

[tranquil belfry]

schizo

[cobalt laurel]

Bars

[gusty pulsar]

i use light mode on my incognito windows, which i use to watch neuro clips lol

[kind pecan]

i feel like people are going to confuse her more with neuro now

[gusty pulsar]

i don't wanna flood my recommanded with nuero stuff

[humble grail]

Okay now I've actually bothered reading it I know its Aware

[night estuary]

Bruhs got nosy family members

[gusty pulsar]

nah, just to keep my youtube recomanded pretty consistant i guess lol

[wicked pulsar]

wow she... actually looks really good without the ponytail. I dig this short-haired Evil

[night estuary]

Is it? I couldn't tell maybe it is That'd be an odd choice

[kind pecan]

i know a certain someone who will be happy about that

[lost pulsar]

damn flashbacks to people complaining about evil changing hair color to different than neuro, guess its a good differentiator with this model without the massive black shirt

[night estuary]

Oh did somebody not like when her new model ahd dark hair

[wicked pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-neuro-blushing-evil-neuro-sama-flooshed-gif-16029039408115443142

[gusty pulsar]

i heard the tales of it