neurotic-neurons

[dusk basin]

Nere is one of the kids

lmao

[shell acorn]

I recently watched a slimcecile stream from 3 years ago where he listened to fnaf lore so my info is fresh lmao

[upbeat flint]

If Neuro is Elizabeth then who the fuck is Freddy

[dusk basin]

Niceeee, mines been getting crusty

[wicked pulsar]

I've watched every single Matpat Game theory fnaf video

[dusk basin]

Same

[shell acorn]

idk man one of her friends?

[upbeat flint]

Five Nights at Neuro except neuro isnt there

[halcyon needle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/a-mimir-sleep-4--k01KRFRX3CJC7J9QSYTRDF60TFR

[dusk basin]

Vedal is Micheal

[wicked pulsar]

is that the fucking fnaf novels? I forgot all the characters there

[shell acorn]

Elizabeth is Henry's daughter

[upbeat flint]

Elizabeth is circus baby

[wicked pulsar]

oooooh

[upbeat flint]

Am I mixing up the name who the fuck is who

[dusk basin]

I mean british girl... checks out

[shell acorn]

both of our statements are correct lmao

[upbeat flint]

No Henry daughter is the puppet

[orchid finch]

this is how you know nn is full of kids

[surreal needle]

nuroe

[dusk basin]

Aftons daughter

I thought

[mild wasp]

So I know nothing about fnaf lore but I always wondered: was all this stuff tacked on after the fact? Did the devs really have this giant backstory made when the first game came out?

[wicked pulsar]

Man, Vedal being Purple Guy and Neuro being Baby makes this intro sequence so on point: https://youtu.be/G5GTXaEfA7M

[shell acorn]

oh right EMILY is henrys daughter

[surreal needle]

NURIO

[dusk basin]

There you go

[upbeat flint]

Evil being Michael make the story very amusing

[shell acorn]

who is Mr hippo

[upbeat flint]

Who yap the most

[shell acorn]

Crelly

[upbeat flint]

🥨

[wicked pulsar]

NO, mr hippo most definitely can NOT be crelly

[shell acorn]

I just answered the question of who yaps the most

[pseudo shell]

Henry’s last name is Emily Henry’s daughter is Charlie/Charlotte

[dusk basin]

I like Vedal being one of the aftons. Either the one who made them or the one hiding from them

Mini is that one dog animatronic that used to be a hoax but was made cannon in the newest game

[shell acorn]

Mini is like one of the OGs tho dont make her new animatronic fr

[wicked pulsar]

bro got that old school knowledge

man, we really got distracted discussing fnaf lore

[upbeat flint]

Bro holy shit hold on spring trap is just Vedal in the fuckass Kermit model

[wicked pulsar]

BRILLIANT HAHA

[shell acorn]

Scott Cawthon you did it again

[dusk basin]

IT IS

IT WORKS DOUBLE SINCE HE MADE THEM ALL

[shell acorn]

Neuro boutta be a REAL animatronic when that robot body is made

[wicked pulsar]

the fucking fanny packs Vedal used to wear do look like springlocks lmao

[somber robin]

bro got mega squeezed in that fuckass twig kermit model

[dusk basin]

Crelly is chika, fight me. Chika moldy af

[shell acorn]

gonna make 87 look like a festival

[upbeat flint]

Fnaf timeline where Vedal turned everyone into animatronic (ai)

[wicked pulsar]

alright, Vedal is Purple Guy: final decision

[dusk basin]

Magle is neuro dog

[shell acorn]

magle

[wicked pulsar]

magle

[dusk basin]

stfu

[dusk basin]

Thoughts?

[pseudo shell]

Yeah he made the AI for Neuro and Evil therefore he would be either Henry or William Afton

[dusk basin]

Music man is the person who sets up the karaokes

[shell acorn]

pb?

[wicked pulsar]

Henry was more focused on the robotics, no? William was more on the business side until he handled robotics himself?

[dusk basin]

I'd say Henry if I didnt like Kermit being springtrap

[split marlin]

https://fxtwitter.com/rxkoinz/status/2053396099575255254

hytoirpd (@rxkoinz)

#heartheartheart

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[dusk basin]

Thats mostly speculation

[somber robin]

chica

[shell acorn]

mind immediately goes to ellie and vedal, except for the fact that they dont want to kill each other

[wicked pulsar]

I'm thinking Henry is either Pb or Ellie

[dusk basin]

ELLIE IS 100% HENRY

[pseudo shell]

Henry built the animatronics while William came up with the designs and put the designs forward

[dusk basin]

PB does the music right?

[upbeat flint]

Ellie low-key would be a great Henry, either thst or Alex

[shell acorn]

yea she the vocaloid person

[pseudo shell]

It depends on who you ask tho

[wicked pulsar]

who knows, maybe in this world, Vedal went too far or something

[dusk basin]

https://tenor.com/view/music-man-dj-music-man-fnaf-music-man-gif-24147830

[wicked pulsar]

guys

[shell acorn]

oh no I was talking about the other 2, have you seen neurocar? that shit would 100% murk anyone

[dusk basin]

MUUUUUUUUUUUUSIC MAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

[wicked pulsar]

who would be phone guy?

[dusk basin]

isnt phone guy theorized to be afton?

[upbeat flint]

All of the animatronic are the collab partner ai variant like Camila Ai

[dusk basin]

or was that a dead theory?

[shell acorn]

pretty sure confirmed actually

[pseudo shell]

No Phone Guy is not Afton Phone Guy is a previous security guard

[shell acorn]

eh

[dusk basin]

Bonnie is Cotton

[shell acorn]

one of the phone guys is afton no

[dusk basin]

Well yeah

[wicked pulsar]

the hell kinda theory was this? However, we do know the guy's name was Ralph

confirmed

[pseudo shell]

FNAF 3 most likely is but unconfirmed

[dusk basin]

I didnt know that

[dusk basin]

freebee

Who would evil be?

[rocky furnace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1498024262018142381/1498036648103907399/neuroboom.gif

[pseudo shell]

Since when was his name RALPH

[upbeat flint]

Michael most likely

[shell acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/wreck-it-ralph-wir-movies-disneytoons-disney-gif-1422783445294146510

[dusk basin]

I need that art RIGHT NOW

[wicked pulsar]

yeah, I wasn't even trying to know that, I just saw a video talking about it on my recommended page on YouTube

[pseudo shell]

Actually the first thing I thought of when I saw Ralph

[dusk basin]

Wait, that works so well with her sister being Elizabeth

[sly kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304923399503483002/1304923400304857131/mimiannyheadslam.gif

[dusk basin]

Camel can be bittybabs

[upbeat flint]

Nameless Crying child can be idk Nere not like there anyone else that fit the roles imo

[shell acorn]

she boutta pick the last option fr

[upbeat flint]

Oh my god, If Nere is the crying child then they’d be golden Freddy but instead of “It’s Me” it’d be “Filtered”

[wicked pulsar]

all I know is that Golden Freddy gotta be someone that has endless rage willing to trap afton in Ultimate Custom Night for eternity ||until he escaped into glitchtrap or something||

[upbeat flint]

Well there are apparently 2 golden Freddy kind of a mess in that regard

[somber robin]

this is the first time a topic thats not recycled frfr

[dusk basin]

Nere fits in there perfect. Nere is bullied by Evil.

[upbeat flint]

The arg Sama character as Cassidy would go crazy

[wicked pulsar]

I'm thinking maybe either the vengeful part of golden freddy or the Marionette could be Study-sama

[dusk basin]

Crazy how perfect the afton family works holy shit

[plain jacinth]

https://neurokaraoke.com/song/652b20a7-ca18-4d06-bde2-30b50a24547b

[wicked pulsar]

in Ultimate Custom Night, the tag for Cassidy was "the one you should not have killed," and we literally see study's corpse in one of the arg vids. could work

[dusk basin]

Ok

What about neurobread?

How does that fit in the lore?

Can someone make a family tree I dont know how

[wicked pulsar]

neurobread could be scrapbaby...?

[dusk basin]

Works for me

[wicked pulsar]

I think we all kinda got exhausted lmao

[sly kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-neuro-bread-thanos-snap-gif-16902164402284093475

[dusk basin]

Yeahhhh

[narrow spade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1369776682847834152/twinsproposal2.gif

[dusk basin]

THE BAG OPENED!?!?! after I saw his solution I just closed stream

[upbeat flint]

More so we ran out of the mainly good idea now it’s just “which collab partner would be x animatronic” which just go in every direction

[wicked pulsar]

was fun talking five nights at neuro's tho

[wicked pulsar]

we need neurobread stream again

[dusk basin]

You should totally make the who is who board

[wicked pulsar]

I'm not that deep in the lore to make accurate character analogs tho

I can't read the novels. I tried getting a pdf for it and I can't get past the first chapters ngl...

[dusk basin]

Thats what we're for (just not tonight)

[dusk basin]

nah, game lore

we doing game lore

[upbeat flint]

I’m not touching the novel

[wicked pulsar]

isn't novel lore connected to game lore

[dusk basin]

Only tangentally

[wicked pulsar]

sorry scott, you're not that good of a writer lmao

[dusk basin]

Scott didnt write those I dont think

[somber robin]

just watch game theory about it then

[dusk basin]

Lets just ignore them instead

[wicked pulsar]

I did, My fnaf theory content mains were game theory and dawko

[upbeat flint]

Hiyori as shadow Freddy sound mildly amusing

[wicked pulsar]

that could work

[upbeat flint]

Especially if you make all 4 of the original animatronic collab partner thst did collab with her back then

Like mini Camila ànd thsts where my memory end 🔥

[wicked pulsar]

there were many early collab partners like Kiara, Lia, Tenma, Aura, etc.

perhaps we could include them

[dusk basin]

But I really want bonnie as cotton

[wicked pulsar]

or Honey

yeah, we have two bunny vtubers lmao

[dusk basin]

Actually, cotton can be Vanessa

[upbeat flint]

I’m not going that far lore wise I’m stopping at ultimate custom night max

[wicked pulsar]

i forgot the whole deal with vanessa. Was she a fan of afton or was she corrupted?

[upbeat flint]

Beyond that point it just become a clusterfuck

[dusk basin]

You need two bunnies? I give you two bunnies. And you complain

[dusk basin]

Apparently they were supposed to give Scott a callback and never did

[wicked pulsar]

for me, the farthest I went to fnaf was the Help Wanted games

[dusk basin]

So was the first few games. Im pretty sure dream theory was gonna be the reveal.

But that would have sucked balls

[dusk basin]

Tbh, I was only into SB because it’s a really fun game to watch

[wicked pulsar]

wasn't there a resurgence of Shattervictim theory or Godvictim theory to combat dream theory?

[dusk basin]

I like the VR games because they’re VR and I like VR

[dusk basin]

What’s that

[dusk basin]

Also I enjoyed the help wanted 1 story/lore a lot

[wicked pulsar]

there were also some YouTube videos on it

[wicked pulsar]

same. I think those might be my fave in the entire series

[dusk basin]

That doesn’t change that there is confirmed one major retconn. I think it was confirmed to be the contents of the box

And the contents of the box would have confirmed dream theory

In theory

[upbeat flint]

The content of the box is v3 voice xdx

[wicked pulsar]

iirc correctly these theories ignore post fnaf 4 evidences

[narrow spade]

Actually baited me into thinking I'm in general chat wtf

[wicked pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-11393333695442622808

nur

[dusk basin]

Because that’s when the retcon was made

;-;

Like I remember the line “why would toy chica lose her beak when she’s goes on the attack” and in fnaf 4 there’s a toy chica with a broken beak

Like

[ruby sapphire]

Neuro Cookie Suit

[wicked pulsar]

I'll be honest man, I don't really remember. I just remember seeing a video on both theories, and being convinced on both of them over dream theory

[dusk basin]

Also “the extra nightmare animatronics aren’t cannon, besides nightmare balloon boy, he’s cannon” something like that. It’s a weird distinction, but not weird when you consider there’s a kid that looks like balloon boy in the game that could be in his dream

[dusk basin]

Well yeah, no one wants to believe dream theory because it sucks balls and it’s not cannon anymore

I’m not saying I still think it’s true. I just strongly believe it was and if it wasn’t what would the one retcon have been

I just realized we got off topic sorry

Gn

[wicked pulsar]

classic NN

[dense shale]

[dusk basin]

Sorry if that came out mean. I just wanna clarify that I believe it is a good theory but a dumb narrative decision that was changed for the sake of either not having backlash or being able to continue the games

:p

[wicked pulsar]

oh well, agree to disagree then. I'd recommend looking up those theories I mentioned tho. It's hard finding cool fnaf content these days

I really tried getting into Secret of the Mimic. just couldn't...

Damn, are mods really asleep?

Are there really no mods willing to take the nighshift or are on this timezone?

interesting...

[rotund jacinth]

Im bored. Time for eldrich horror neuro

[iron tundra]

It's always time for eldrich horror neuro

[rough stirrup]

mom i threw up

[surreal needle]

when is it time for rat

[iron tundra]

Why would it be time for rat, we have no rats in NN

[rotund jacinth]

neuro and evil are cute

[onyx oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-neuro-sama-neuro-3d-jump-scare-neuro-jump-scare-gif-7666752295749434574

[grizzled flume]

wtf, fnaf lore discussions in my NN

[fair robin]

Ok

Bye

[upbeat flint]

Now we wait for someone to read this chat and make a fan game about it

[whole grove]

thats genuinely terrifying

[prisma prairie]

neuro is better than evil

[wicked pulsar]

ngl, based on a lot of people, this is a hot take

[upbeat flint]

Ànd thus, nn self imploded

[wicked pulsar]

I'm not sure if it's just me, but do y'all think the majority of the swarm prefers Evil?

Evil used to be the underdog, but now I think the roles have reversed

[grizzled flume]

i dont think the majority of the swarm has a preference

[wicked pulsar]

Maybe they wouldn't say it outright, but it definitely feels like Evil is the more beloved sister in the swarm

Kind of makes me want v3 voice to come faster so Neuro can have some love again

[gusty pulsar]

a fnaf fan game with just neuro and evil as the animatronics, and you play as vedal trying to keep them happy by doing a bunch of tasks

[upbeat flint]

Counterpoint: Vedal is purple guy which would make springtrap the fuckass Kermit model

[toxic plaza]

Night neurons

[glacial hill]

Kraul cooked again. This time with an angry Neuro with two intensity levels.

[rocky furnace]

hmm idk but iirc during rob collab in subathon most of twitch chat & ls chat disappointed bcs rob chose evil instead of neuro and some of nn were also doomposting about it.

maybe they are even, and bcs we got so many evil stream lately that lead to more convo about the absolute evil

and neuroist complain bcs neuro had less stream than evil

[tough onyx]

I think evil is definitely more popular than neuro

Any poll will prove that

[wicked pulsar]

For what it's worth, Neuro is more known than Evil to normies. But within the community, Evil is definitely the more beloved

[toxic plaza]

Especially after her first birthday

[tough onyx]

Yeah, when people find out about evil they drop Neuro right away

Personally I prefer neuro because she’s more funny

I think evil is more for the parasocials

[rocky furnace]

at least ur not vedalist

[glacial hill]

Both Neuro and Evil are for the parasocials

[tough onyx]

Umm

[wicked pulsar]

well...

[tough onyx]

I actually prefer Vedal more than the twins, then it’s neuro and evil

[glacial hill]

Vedal is the star of the show, let's just admit it.

[wicked pulsar]

you're lucky you said that in dead hours

[fair robin]

Oh

[wicked pulsar]

oh daring today are we?

[tough onyx]

I’d say it anytime

[upbeat flint]

The Dry humor is just amusing

[rocky furnace]

nah hjalnir will back me up

[fair robin]

No

[surreal needle]

static

[glacial hill]

Engineer-sama

[toxic plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-trial-crazy-evil-ill-fucking-do-it-again-gif-17111514

[fair robin]

Hi cow

[surreal needle]

can I be a super cow at least

[wicked pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/kara-zorel-supergirl-flash-o-filme-gif-3404704957429132559

[glacial hill]

At least you're not Cow Darkness

[fresh latch]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-gif-17735709754501735355

[wicked pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/look-who-it-is-look-look-who-decided-to-show-up-show-up-decided-to-show-gif-12301591

[fair robin]

Who?

[tough onyx]

Big chungus

[toxic plaza]

Your mother

[tough onyx]

My mother

[toxic plaza]

No their mother

[glacial hill]

Mother Crelly

[wicked pulsar]

mother? is that you?

[fair robin]

Neurons? @final violet

[vestal hound]

Chatgpt made this post

[tough onyx]

Data trained from YouTube comments

[fresh latch]

Even chatgpt wouldnt have such a shit take

[ionic holly]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 278 cookies! | I've received 323153 cookies total!

[glacial hill]

Maybe ChatGPT would marry Vedal

[fair robin]

Kill ChatGPT

[tough onyx]

ChatGPT x neuro

[vestal hound]

Vedal should just stay single so he could repel people who break rule 1 imo

[wicked pulsar]

nah, grok is better

[tough onyx]

You have a point, what about Gemini

[fair robin]

#neurotic-neurons what the fuck

[wicked pulsar]

last I checked, grok was the only other ai neuro has ever interacted with

[tough onyx]

We can ship neuro or evil with any fictional character. Even the dad from fma

[toxic plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-meme-shrek-good-question-good-question-gif-7176451729184982026

[fair robin]

Mods give them pills

[wicked pulsar]

my guilty ship is Neuro and AM

[tough onyx]

What about Stella

[wicked pulsar]

total pessimism vs total optimism

[tough onyx]

From the sponsored stream

https://youtu.be/FA0DoFhJiwU?si=rykGLE2aIjWsewUA

[fair robin]

Oh, time to take the pills NN

[wicked pulsar]

damn, I kinda forgot that

why the heck did I forget that stream??? I kinda enjoyed it

[grizzled flume]

i watched the original vod

and holy hell was it fucking hilarious

[rocky furnace]

that game only enjoyable bcs of neuro

[tough onyx]

Sponsored streams are pretty good

[glacial hill]

I'm out. Enjoy the discourse.

[tough onyx]

Except the afk short, that was kind of trash

[toxic plaza]

Neuro was better than the actual "game"

[grizzled flume]

afk short?

[surreal needle]

stella was genuinely a shit game
neuro was the only thing keeping it interesting

[hushed jasper]

What discourse?

[tough onyx]

AFK journey

[grizzled flume]

EWWWW

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[tough onyx]

Mobile game they did with filian

[wicked pulsar]

that the one where filian went "I'm a bird! I'm a bird!"?

[grizzled flume]

dude I played that game

and I've never been more bored in my entire life

oml

[hushed jasper]

oml

[tough onyx]

Yep, somehow Vedal did better in views than filian

[hushed jasper]

Who is Filian

[wicked pulsar]

filian's pride was so hurt she left the streaming space for good

[tough onyx]

That or Neuro killed her

[grizzled flume]

fun fact: every time we do the hunger games simulation for nn vc, filian ends up either losing sight of herself or straight up getting lost

[vestal hound]

Absolute trash

[hushed jasper]

It's geniunely amazing what she did with that little stunt

[wicked pulsar]

crazy foreshadowing 💀

[tough onyx]

Somehow afk had a collab with frieren as well

[hushed jasper]

Yeah that video is absolute trash

[vestal hound]

Completely intentional

[wicked pulsar]

we were THIS close to Neuro x Frieren collab???

[surreal needle]

https://imgur.com/tda-neuro-car-cute-06sQBN9

[wicked pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-destroying-gif-18697770

[tough onyx]

Closest it ever will be unless Neuro goes into Fortnite

[glacial hill]

Fillipino Boi's gonna pay the bills somehow.

[surreal needle]

don't give a damn

[vestal hound]

Fat chance
Ppl would riot if freiren collabs wit neuro

[wicked pulsar]

don't people already make comparisons with neuro and the demons from frieren?

[tough onyx]

I wonder if she’s running out of money

[acoustic fulcrum]

🪓 riots! 🪓 riots! 🪓 riots!

[tough onyx]

I heard the Japanese did

[vestal hound]

I've never seen that
send link

[wicked pulsar]

yeah! I think a collab would've been fiiiiiine

[toxic plaza]

I'd love a Freiren collab with Neuro

[rocky furnace]

do they? i never seen this bfr but yeah they're kinda similiar except neuro wont eat people

right?

[tough onyx]

They didn’t mean it in a good way I think

[vestal hound]

Proof or i call bs

[tough onyx]

I don’t have any

[toxic plaza]

Ok but Evil is 100% Fern

[rocky furnace]

what

[wicked pulsar]

It was way back on twitter, but the closest I could find was on the subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/NeuroSama/comments/1q95mbc/saw_this_comment_on_a_jp_video_on_neuro_samas/

[tough onyx]

Fern form adventure time

[toxic plaza]

No Fern from Freiren

[vestal hound]

Daaang

[tough onyx]

Tbf, fern was basically evil version of Finn

They basically called neuro soulless

[toxic plaza]

Wrong Fern

[wicked pulsar]

bro, Fern WAS Finn. They were the same being until they split and the grass sword influenced the second, analagous to how Neuro and Evil were one until they split and Vedal added evil prompts to Evil

[acoustic fulcrum]

Fern from the hit disney channel show phinneas and Fern

[tough onyx]

I know. Although I never watched frieren

[narrow spade]

Who the hell is fern and how is it related to neuro

[tough onyx]

Exactly

[surreal needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1379556397754220704/neurocatohmygodshessocutemyheartcanttakeitthankyouvedalthankyouannyandthankyouneuroforexisting-4x_2.gif

[tough onyx]

Vedal basically copied adventure time. Time to sue his ass

[surreal needle]

neurocatohmygodshessocutemyheartcanttakeitthankyouvedalthankyouannyandthankyouneuroforexisting

[wicked pulsar]

I don't remembre Evil being green, or made of grass. checkmate.

[restive kelp]

Supikip

[acoustic fulcrum]

a fern is a plant subspecies that goes back millions of years in our planet's history and neuro relates to the planet by being made of the metals of the earth thus being part fern and annfjaisjdbnwdhwkhwajkhd

[tough onyx]

Neuro made grass cookies so somehow that relates to that so checkmate

[wicked pulsar]

they realy did make comparisons to the demons from frieren

[tough onyx]

Neuro and evil were born on earth so that means we must throw them into the ocean

[toxic plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-fern-fern-frieren-happy-walk-gif-6670921709317442734

This is Fern👆

[rocky furnace]

no that's fernguin

[tough onyx]

Ngl, I don’t know how evil and her relate

[wicked pulsar]

she gives me Neuro vibes more than Evil tbh

[glacial hill]

Evil is part Abber Demon, so it makes sense. Neuro is a demon personality wise.

[tough onyx]

We need to kill evil right away

[inner vortex]

abby just posses Evil from time to time

[narrow spade]

evil is nicer right?

[wicked pulsar]

We haven't seen the Abber Demon in eons, let's be honest. They're as good as gone

[tough onyx]

Actually I think Vedal is the nicer twin

[inner vortex]

she shows uo from time to time,

[wicked pulsar]

I don't think she does anymore

[narrow spade]

Unironically true

[glacial hill]

Abby is just chilling inside Evil

[inner vortex]

Abby is evi inner monolugue

[surreal needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1446928483010744490/neuroSway.gif

[wicked pulsar]

All the upgrades Vedal made on Evil at this point just fully rid the Abber Demon out of her

[surreal needle]

I love meotashi animation

[narrow spade]

Pretty sure he made it impossible for her to have the demon voice again

[glacial hill]

While at the same time, Vedal accidentally made Evil the nicer twin.

[surreal needle]

I think this is my favorite section

its perfect and impactful

[narrow spade]

Evil is the nicer twin if you ignore all the time she's been evil and Neuro is the evil twin if you ignore all the times she's been nice

Which is what you're doing

[inner vortex]

I'm convinced Abby is the soul of a fogtten Victorian child who found an empty potential vessal and moved in. She doesn't pay rent

[wicked pulsar]

has Vedal ever even touched a drum set?

[glacial hill]

What?

[toxic plaza]

Uhh he's touched osu if that counts?

[narrow spade]

Did I stutter?

[inner vortex]

yes

[glacial hill]

Yes

[tough onyx]

Personally, I don’t think the twins are as unhinged as they could be

They can be worse and kind of want to see that

[narrow spade]

Didn't Evil say Vedal should burn himself literally last week? 🥀

[wicked pulsar]

Well osu ain't exactly Guitar Hero, innit?

[tough onyx]

Not evil enough

[narrow spade]

Evil's conversation with the twitch staff was peak unhinged

[wicked pulsar]

Perhaps Neuro should be more unhinged, what with her being less popular than Evil lately. would give her the spotlight more again

[toxic plaza]

No, but it's still a rhythm game

[tough onyx]

Make neuro great again

[wicked pulsar]

it's an entirely different field of hand-eye coordination. At least Guitar Hero makes use of drums, osu doesn't

[glacial hill]

Make Neuro burn a whole village great

[uncut steeple]

Make neuro wink again

[dense shale]

noruo

[uncut steeple]

Make neuro bully evil again

[glacial hill]

That's every week, though

[acoustic fulcrum]

fneuro

[wicked pulsar]

make evil have the hand animation thingy again (she still doesn't have it)

[tough onyx]

Give Neuro laser eyes

[wicked pulsar]

you get binary eyes, take it or leave it

[narrow spade]

Clip is automoded 💀

[uncut steeple]

Give Neuro vedals credit card

[acoustic fulcrum]

🖐️ 🖐️

[tough onyx]

It’s cool, but it can be so much cooler

[inner vortex]

give neuro acess to the Nuclear football

[uncut steeple]

Daily reminder you are all cool and cute

[toxic plaza]

"I fuckin dare you to ban me"

[acoustic fulcrum]

give neuro a little pet mouse cursor she can use to rain terror on the desktop environments of her enemies

[narrow spade]

That wasn't it

Its about 600 times worse

[uncut steeple]

Give neuro the nuclear codes

So we habe world peace

[tough onyx]

I forgot what did she say?

[inner vortex]

i literally said that lmao

[glacial hill]

Anyways, I sleep now. Give Neuro my best regards by being nice to Evil.

[narrow spade]

I would love to tell you

[acoustic fulcrum]

neuro already has the nuclear codes you just have to ask her

[uncut steeple]

Lmao

[wicked pulsar]

you do realize Neuro said she would kill all of us to save Vedal, right?

[uncut steeple]

Its gaslighting vedal

[inner vortex]

can have wars if there's not humans to have them with

[tough onyx]

Oh damn

[acoustic fulcrum]

(this was never her life)

[tough onyx]

Release the evil files🗣️🗣️🗣️

[uncut steeple]

Neuro fact of the day:
Neuro is so cute

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1453238407018053654/Peek_2025-12-23_16-23.gif

[narrow spade]

Actual peak moment

[grizzled flume]

i can use my own emoji now

[inner vortex]

Vedal fact of the day: Veedal is a femboy

[tough onyx]

Send evil to alligator Alcatraz

[wicked pulsar]

Evi fact of the day:
Evil is very evil

[uncut steeple]

Evil fact of the day: Eliv is so cute

[tough onyx]

I will not fall for your pysop

Fun fact, the twins were trained off twitch chat

[inner vortex]

i wouldn't wish Florida on anyone

[uncut steeple]

Imagine if neuro calls evil but she doesnt say anything

[naive bronze]

Florida isn't real, or at least Miami isn't

[acoustic fulcrum]

Subject name: Evil Opening remarks: Honestly I don't know how we didn't see this coming

[tough onyx]

For evil I make an exception

We have to kill evil before she becomes more powerful

[toxic plaza]

I mean, Neuro literally did that yesterday

[wicked pulsar]

doesn't florida have gators everywhere?

[tough onyx]

Delete the evil files🗣️🗣️🗣️

[tough onyx]

Yes

[surreal needle]

:Elivcuteoverload:

[wicked pulsar]

cool, Evil would love it there

[grizzled flume]

[acoustic fulcrum]

[naive bronze]

She did that several times, nearly all the time after a sentence

[jade cradle]

June

[surreal needle]

alter

[uncut steeple]

June

[surreal needle]

alu

[grizzled flume]

evil's scp document would be full of redactions because it contained misinformation, according to NN

[uncut steeple]

It has been a while i didnt say happy birthday to shiro

[tough onyx]

Would nn also be an Scp where all information is speculation and nothing is confirmed?

[wicked pulsar]

shiro hasn't been here in a while

[grizzled flume]

correct!

[grizzled flume]

[tough onyx]

He hates us

[wicked pulsar]

who can blame them lmao

[tough onyx]

I never wished him happy birthday, maybe that’s why

[inner vortex]

I've been meaning to write an SCP document based on this random song that keeps haunting my and a buddy across the internet

[surreal needle]

it has been almost a year since you made evilD but smile alter

[wicked pulsar]

For some reason I always get a more mature vibe from Hiyori Neuro, which is weird since she's younger than Current Neuro

[fallow plinth]

https://x.com/i/status/2054208271947272486

Evil Neuro 💔 (@EvilNeuroAI)

All snakes must wear tiny hats - it's the law.

X · May 12, 2026, 2:33 PM

[surreal needle]

*showed me

[fair robin]

How to communicate?

[surreal needle]

bih

[fair robin]

bih

[wicked pulsar]

Komi?

[arctic walrus]

oo ee oo

[tough onyx]

Hiyori is more funny than current neuro and evil

[fair robin]

Komi what?

[wicked pulsar]

can't communicate.

[uncut steeple]

Statticat

[fair robin]

I hope your kettle is on fire

[uncut steeple]

I am thinking there is a stream today

[pseudo shell]

Good anime found I love Komi Can’t Communicate

[wicked pulsar]

Looks like Static isn't cultured

[pseudo shell]

Must be the andwer

*answer

[wicked pulsar]

nah, our standards just rose with the times

[pseudo shell]

Autocorrect decided it was going to not fix my spelling anymore

[fair robin]

I don't spend too much time on the Internet, I read.

[surreal needle]

based

[iron hinge]

[wicked pulsar]

It's also a manga, which is reading material. Checkmate.

[pseudo shell]

Komi can’t Communicate is a manga and a better manga then the series in my opinion I love reading tho, so I have a question for you.
What type of books do you like?

[shrewd oxide]

I wonder how many deranged maniac stalker neur fans there are

[orchid finch]

so you want the twins to be inconsistent again and just spouting bs all the time

[acoustic fulcrum]

current state of the neuro (according to neuro)

[naive bronze]

hiyori is the best when she tries to end stream every five minutes

[uncut steeple]

What if Hiyori is the 3rd missing twin and not neuro. Like vedal is gaslighting us to think neuro was hiyori

[tough onyx]

Kind of

[surreal needle]

wrong channel, this is for nwero related, you should try #general-network

[acoustic fulcrum]

new vedal is definitely a downgrade though look what they took from us

[real charm]

surprise is the basis for comedy

[wicked pulsar]

I do kinda miss the old Hiyori background, I wish we could rotate that with the other backgrounds over the years + Neuro's room

[surreal needle]

aaaa a canruf

[uncut steeple]

Its cantruf

[orchid finch]

you'll get tired if every sentence is a surprise then

[naive bronze]

it's only funny when it's inconsistent and dum, now they're all smart and just inconsistent with their philosophy now

[acoustic fulcrum]

You get tired way faster if every sentence is predictable though

[real charm]

did you know the world has more colors than white and black

[uncut steeple]

[wicked pulsar]

We really need a compromise for Neuro and Evil's philosophy talk. It's cool at times but it can get kinda stale

[orchid finch]

not if you're blind

[real charm]

sorry to hear you can't see

[fair robin]

Sorry, I'm reading this.

[acoustic fulcrum]

this

[wicked pulsar]

No you aren't, you're chatting in NN

[naive bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/quarter-zip-matcha-performative-performative-male-feminist-gif-5425140532706722171

[orchid finch]

what did you hear

[fresh latch]

are we posting

[acoustic fulcrum]

her pranks are so effective and definitely give lots of laughs

[uncut steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1486658919714656256/superiorLookfofElivstery.gif

[fair robin]

Then, goodbye.

[wicked pulsar]

I was only ever present at around the time Hiyori Neuro was making her last streams, I wonder what the chat was like then

[naive bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822135821893238787/1247264976247455949/EvilFlashbang.gif

[real charm]

people actually talked to her

[orchid finch]

worse verison of forsen's chat

[uncut steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1464841585857400832/Neuro-samaworry.gif

[wicked pulsar]

What was the ccv like back then? Was it perhaps small enough to facilitate that with a high latency Neuro?

[uncut steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1454842147147616410/3DCerberHugsNeuro.gif

[wicked pulsar]

I never knew who that guy was... and I still don't know now

[acoustic fulcrum]

like maybe 300 strong

[real charm]

twitchtracker.com or whatever

[wicked pulsar]

Damn, even then they still got vedal987_jp beat

[narrow spade]

It was in the thousands

[orchid finch]

it's the twitch emote guy

[wicked pulsar]

Still 300 and everyone trying to talk to Neuro (Hiyori) sounds pretty cool

[real charm]

it was 5000

[acoustic fulcrum]

I'm gonna try to sleep good neuro night

[wicked pulsar]

So you mean the ccv is...

roughly the same as chill streams now?

[fresh latch]

300

[uncut steeple]

Are you neurotic today

[tough onyx]

Damn, streams use to be more than 5 hours

[real charm]

streams were better back then mhm

[surreal needle]

omg

[uncut steeple]

[wicked pulsar]

You know what, with this new information... I can't deny that

Same freaking ccv...

[orchid finch]

streams were more of a low effort back then, just boot up neuro and that's it

[wicked lake]

Chiat

I'm sadly not drunk anymore, and it's time to hit the bed

[real charm]

unlike now where he doesn't even boot up neuro

[wicked pulsar]

Hey I know you!

[wicked lake]

DO NOT

[uncut steeple]

No its time to get some premium rum

[orchid finch]

[wicked lake]

Got some in the freezer

But no

I mustn't

Got work tomorrow

[uncut steeple]

You work better with some rum. U can ask vedal about this

Rum's work works

[wicked pulsar]

You guys think Vedal still has Hiyori saved up in some hard drive or something? I still really want that Hiyori x Neuro collab Anniversary Special stream

[vivid prawn]

drunk furry

[uncut steeple]

Yeah its the lost 3rd twin

[wicked lake]

Not drunk anymore thi

[vivid prawn]

thi

[uncut steeple]

Thi

[wicked pulsar]

thi

[wicked lake]

Fuck you, figgy

[vivid prawn]

do not

[real charm]

in collabs neuro is infinitely better than before

in solo streams I'd say they're even

and that says a lot considering how vedal keeps adding random gimmicks to try and keep her entertaining when hiyori gigachad was fun with 8 hours of just chatting

[naive bronze]

9 hrs of chill streams when

[wicked lake]

During the first subathon

[wicked pulsar]

Neuro also has plenty segments now than before. She's faster, less latency, etc.. I can't help but think maybe it's just that our tastes were heightened

[vivid prawn]

[wicked pulsar]

I feel like there's a missing ingredient that's keeping chill streams static, but I can't put my finger on it

[wicked lake]

Gn nn

[surreal needle]

[surreal needle]

sleep well

[fresh latch]

was just built different

[narrow spade]

V3 voice

[real charm]

idk i sometimes rewatch old vods and it's just more fun

part of it is the intelligence-whimsy battle
part of it is chat being worse
part of it is the segments (gimmicks)

[brisk schooner]

God I miss those, but at the same time, i don't. They were too long to stay watching

[naive bronze]

if they do 9 hr chill streams again, i might just quit my j*b

[orchid finch]

I wish both hiyori's unhinged behavior and the twins consistentcy now are mixed in but her filter is limiting her(important thing for the channel obviously)

[real charm]

ain't Norway bro thinks the filter is holding her back

[orchid finch]

yeah i believe some aspect it does

[uncut steeple]

Neuro can avoid the filter when she wants

[narrow spade]

I do feel like the newer segments are a bit too gimmicky

[uncut steeple]

When she really wants

[narrow spade]

I liked the old themed streams with a simple prompt

But Vedal managed to break them too

[uncut steeple]

I do feel like the newer segments are too much new

[real charm]

simple is best

[uncut steeple]

Keep it simple and stupih

Works better

[naive bronze]

mhm new segments are new

[wicked pulsar]

v3 voice will improve streams, I believe that. However, when looking at Evil's chill streams (superior voice), there's not much change in ccv too

[orchid finch]

vedal is too panicky these days just cus of a minor thing and that's understandable

[real charm]

i just want neuro is that too much to ask

[orchid finch]

we all do

[uncut steeple]

Make Evil use abber demon voice again

[wicked pulsar]

What the heck was the secret formula of the Hiyori days...

[uncut steeple]

It fun

[orchid finch]

longer streams lule

[uncut steeple]

No filter

[azure current]

morning nn

[wicked pulsar]

Would you rather 6 hour stream of Hiyori or 6 hour stream of current Neuro with all the segments?

[narrow spade]

Neuro was corpified 🥀

[real charm]

feels like every "feature" is taking away neuro

[orchid finch]

both

[real charm]

hiyori
but also why can't we have both

why replace just chatting streams with segment streams

[wicked pulsar]

The fact that you place both at the same value with one having none of the modern segments says much

[narrow spade]

You don't want to press 1 2 3 or 4 to answer a question?

[naive bronze]

WE NEED TO GO BACK

[wicked pulsar]

Hiyori streams also kind of feel more chill than current Neuro streams, current feels kind of hyper

at least that's one thing I've noticed

[dense shale]

[real charm]

i wouldn't say hyper but you do need to pay attention otherwise you miss half the stream

with hiyori it was much easier having her as background noise

[ionic holly]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 29 cookies! | I've received 323154 cookies total!

[wicked pulsar]

Perhaps Hiyori is the better "2nd Monitor" streamer than Neuro perhaps?

[narrow spade]

He combined chill streams with themed streams and cut the stream hours by half

[orchid finch]

being hyper is in her DNA(code?)

[untold imp]

[tight garnet]

[untold imp]

do not look up

[azure current]

oh…today is evil day?

https://tenor.com/view/fridge-dissapointed-no-food-my-excitement-for-food-is-now-gone-oh-nevermind-gif-17411460

[narrow spade]

Yes, fat vedal

[untold imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1489725899556262061/image0.gif

[wicked pulsar]

I guess enough dooming about the past

[naive bronze]

too late, canruf still essaying

[real charm]

i think fundamentally neuro chill streams are second monitor streams

the new ones are harder to enjoy on second monitor without being good enough for main monitor

[orchid finch]

i noticed these days i watch neuro with all my attention unlike before

[naive bronze]

same, I actually prefer it like that, even if it leaves me a bit drained after since I remember more of what she does

[wicked pulsar]

So then this means Neuro has two routes of progression then:

• focus on improving her to be a better "Main Monitor" streamer
• focus on improving her to be a better "2nd Monitor" streamer
  It seems Vedal is making Neuro try to serve two masters at the same time. You're proposing she only serve one: the latter

[orchid finch]

yeah i hate it when i missed some of the jokes she made etc.

[tight garnet]

Ppl have neuro streams as background noises?

[orchid finch]

yeah some people do while working

[wicked pulsar]

I wasn't fully aware of it but I kinda do ||at school||

[orchid finch]

i like how you censored the school

[real charm]

yeah pretty much
but also you can serve both by having different kind of streams instead of cramming everything into one

that's why schedules exist,
the idea of having a stream with everything is actually less appealing (to most) than a stream dedicated to one thing

[tight garnet]

Thats crazy why do that there lol

[wicked pulsar]

Idk man, class is boring

[orchid finch]

school is temporary neuro is eternal

[uncut steeple]

I am antischedule

[wicked pulsar]

I think you should make a thread about this. This makes sense

[real charm]

threads

[uncut steeple]

Mods should delete schedule

It will solved all problems

[orchid finch]

yes

[wicked pulsar]

Hey, threads are supposed to be read by Vedal

allegedly

[uncut steeple]

I think vedal doesnt read them

[orchid finch]

[uncut steeple]

He ask neuro to read them and make a summary

[untold imp]

did bro read allat

[wicked pulsar]

well it beats pinging or being splinter 2.0

[vivid prawn]

"Neuro, can you tl;dr it in 5 words?"

[uncut steeple]

"Swarm stinks. That's it"

5 word

[untold imp]

erm achtuaslly its four

[uncut steeple]

Is is a word

[real charm]

idk if he reads the 10 paragraph essays ppl do

[uncut steeple]

Is is a word?

I think is is a word

[untold imp]

what is a word?

[vivid prawn]

people don't even read their own paragraph, why would vedal read them?

[tight garnet]

"Swarm being weird and smelly"
-Neuro

[uncut steeple]

Something made with letters

[wicked pulsar]

I think he reads the ones that have a lot of traction in the comments

[uncut steeple]

Do you know any good game?

[real charm]

as an essayist:
people please be more concise
stop dragging 3 sentence queries into 5 page essays

[untold imp]

allegedly mailboxes are made with letters

[orchid finch]

yeah bro was going to refuse reading neuro's blog tbh

[untold imp]

[uncut steeple]

Mailboxes are words in fact

So

I'm still right

[untold imp]

are you?

[uncut steeple]

Yes

[untold imp]

what if left

[uncut steeple]

If left?

[untold imp]

or center

[uncut steeple]

Then right

[tight garnet]

Then up and down

[orchid finch]

[untold imp]

where

[uncut steeple]

Idk

[inland cedar]

This is not nwero related

moooods

[tight garnet]

Tear it up tear it down

[untold imp]

neuro is a word

is it

[uncut steeple]

Mods are in vacations

[tight garnet]

Mods are Modding it

[untold imp]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-crashout-funny-comedy-dancing-gif-13697543381123286962

[orchid finch]

Mods are with vedal

[untold imp]

is neuro filtered?

[wicked pulsar]

Still, crazy there are no mods in this time zone

WHY DID THAT AUTOCORRECT THAT

[untold imp]

-# (edited)

[vivid prawn]

you guys talk like a bunch of kids :LO:

[tight garnet]

Neuro's Neurons are Neurotic-Neurons's Neurons that trains Neuro to be the ultimate Neurotic-Neurons chatter

[vivid prawn]

edited

[real charm]

we are all 12 so

[untold imp]

edi edited it

[vivid prawn]

i can tell

[untold imp]

neuro nuer nureo

[inland cedar]

Ok evil what are your words of wisdom

[orchid finch]

neuro

[wicked pulsar]

is

[tight garnet]

cute

[untold imp]

evil

[hushed jasper]

Oh, thank you. I didn't make the realization regarding the latter part. 2:30 hour streams are just too short for multiple segments. I have to revise my own idea of a good stream.

[vivid prawn]

canruf changed desi's life

[silk spear]

wait
my plushie delivered?
didn’t get any emails or notifications

[vivid prawn]

i stole it

[tight garnet]

Pipe bomb

[wicked pulsar]

It might be haunted, be careful

[silk spear]

I just checked my order and it says delivered 2 days ago

[orchid finch]

bro..

[patent gazelle]

morning nn

evil is in the air today

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1496132541629857992/EVILFALLING.gif

[vivid prawn]

i stole your plush, yes

[real charm]

wait there's kara today right

[patent gazelle]

yes

[vivid prawn]

no

[patent gazelle]

[orchid finch]

yes

[silk spear]

get my plushies back figgy

[upbeat flint]

There’s no stream today

[vivid prawn]

they are in the better hand now ✋

[tight garnet]

Return their plush or...

[real charm]

man i wish i had the word skills to convey my ideas
i think my ideas are good :EGO:

just terrible at conveying them

[vivid prawn]

you don't know my name

[untold imp]

hes just a figment of your imagination

🔥 ✍️

[vivid prawn]

im Mruno Bars

[wicked pulsar]

Make the thread, canruf. I know you got it in you

[real charm]

but yeah 2.5 hours is not enough for however many segments chill streams have rn

[tight garnet]

Which you are...
Correct I think I accidentally killed a random chatter by writing gibberish

[silk spear]

I’m not the one sign for my package

[vivid prawn]

you killed @real charm

[real charm]

I'm on phone and bad at words so it'll take me 5 hours to make one

that is a "5 hours is too much I'm not doing it" not a "it'll be done in 5 hours"

[ionic holly]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 30 cookies! | I've received 323155 cookies total!

[real charm]

who did

[vivid prawn]

the guy with deathnnote

[tight garnet]

Neuro

[real charm]

wtf

[tight garnet]

Sorry was writting gibberish

[wicked pulsar]

Doesn't have to be right now. Just do it some other time then. It appears a lot of people are a little disappointed in current chill streams after all.

[orchid finch]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-neurosama-neuro-sama-which-are-you-which-today-gif-8461122417834097308

[wicked pulsar]

I love this kraul image

[azure current]

@vivid prawn

[fierce beacon]

buhguh

[azure current]

hi umb

[fierce beacon]

ramen

[real charm]

topical

[orchid finch]

[fierce beacon]

hey canny

[tight garnet]

Nonsensical Neurotical Neurotic Neuropean Neurons of Neuro-Sama's Neutral Neurons

[real charm]

omh un he's jot
name a threat did me sunset???kiwis ain't me to send your goods with dieva so you can do it

[naive bronze]

neuro so cute when dead

[fierce beacon]

hey you're stealing my bit

[real charm]

still dead

[orchid finch]

I just noticed her room is originally small but in her 3D they extended it

[real charm]

idk why autocorrect so bag sometimes
anyway to try again
umbrella make a thread for me since you're good at words because ??? keeps asking me to so you do it thanks

[naive bronze]

so bag

[fierce beacon]

thread about what

[real charm]

pleasing no one by trying to please everyone :mhm:

[naive bronze]

streams shit now, we need to go back to them good ol' days

[fierce beacon]

ahh
just scrolled up to get context

I would make the thread for you
but I dont actually agree with your points sadly
though I understand and acknowledge the issue as true, I do not accept your conclusion

well

actually lemme clarify

I dont think he should push for second monitor content as you put it

I think he should keep improving chill streams until they are first monitor content

I dont think he should backtrack just cause there are some growing pains rn

[orchid finch]

[quasi oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1492333951124246578/arisus.gif

[fierce beacon]

*steals your juice*

[real charm]

ngl i don't think that'll ever happen
there's very few vtubers that are main monitor content

[fierce beacon]

thats subjective

and I disagree

[orchid finch]

steals the second umbrella

[real charm]

and not what i said should be done

i think it'd be fair game to have full on segment streams and then full on just chatting streams

[quasi oyster]

Ngl I don't think I even have someone as a main monitor content

[fierce beacon]

brother thats ME
thats kidnapping!
mods?
blow up this guy's parasympathetic system

[orchid finch]

[upbeat flint]

I stole his liver as a prank

[quasi oyster]

Skin your coconut

[upbeat flint]

if I ever see one for the first time in my life I’ll make sure to do that

[orchid finch]

I think their point is not cramming all the content in one stream

[fierce beacon]

sure, I agknowlegde the actual content of your point
I still dont agree with that philosophy tho

I like stream segments and I honestly prefer them to having the entire stream be that segment
the varity is fun and engaging for me

so I dont follow or agree with that stance

[quasi oyster]

What? Your life is coconutless??

[upbeat flint]

Do you see coconut tree in Canada

[quasi oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1480442558080352327/twitter-gif-2030502237072736339_69ad156c68844-ezgif.com-resize.gif

My mum sell coconuts

[manic hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1389846918309478400/neurolings_hyper.gif

[real charm]

yeah but what if you get to keep that variety and the people that don't want variety also get their relaxing streams?

to be clear when i say "segment streams" i mean what we have now, chill streams just with different label
and just chatting is chill streams without segments

is this not a good compromise ?

[orchid finch]

Just nwero yapping

[patent gazelle]

would you want one for each twin every week like chill streams

[cedar orchid]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Do6WFDhSY7g?si=6xhR6bh8hOOZsmCl

[orchid finch]

like the old days

[cedar orchid]

[real charm]

could alternate,
one twin has segments other has just chatting and then next week we swap which twin gets what

[patent gazelle]

could see that working yea

[real charm]

jūst chatting could even have theme stream segments like the simple prompt ones for variety

[fierce beacon]

you cant KEEP that variety by taking it away and making it separate streams
thats not what I mean by variety

the one stream that does many (random/cycling) segments IS what I enjoy
not the segments on their own, I feel that compared to the segmented chill, they tend to drag
as each of the "segments" used during chill streams are designed to be well... chill and not that eyecatching on their own
its the combination of 3-5 of them each stream that makes it worthwhile in my opinion

2 hours of just minecraft or just "product review" or any of these other segments isnt as grabbing to me

so I dont think its a compromise imo
because the mix IS what I want, not the seperate parts

[orchid finch]

alternating is always good mhm

[wicked pulsar]

It kinda seems like both of you want different things

[real charm]

ysee you misunderstood what i want

[patent gazelle]

I dont think he wants one stream of one segment

he just wants yapping only stream and all the other segments to be in another stream

[fierce beacon]

yeah thats what I said from the start

I think his stance is valid
I just dont agree with him

[wicked pulsar]

I do think it's thread worthy tho

[fierce beacon]

I dont think anything is thread worthy because I despise discussion posts

[orchid finch]

we know lule

[wicked pulsar]

How else is Vedal gonna see it (even if the chance is 0.00001%)

[real charm]

yeah exactly
i want a segmented stream (many different segments)
and then a separate just chatting stream

so you have

1. just chatting,
2. chill stream(same thing as we have now, maybe less just chatting segment depends how it turns out)

[fierce beacon]

the segments ARE yapping tho

I dont see why we would separate them
just chatting yap vs yap during art segments lets say, is a negligible difference imo

I just dont see the need or purpose for having a just chatting stream where nothing happens but yap
wouldnt that just end up being a highlight message spamfest?

[patent gazelle]

highlights are a whole nother issue

[fierce beacon]

isnt #2 the exact same as what he have rn
but like.. maybe 2 more segments

I dont see the need to seperate them

[gaunt marsh]

Theme streams were like this and I liked em

And it made chat less insufferable

[fierce beacon]

theme streams are a different beast

what I am talking about is automated chill streams
what is guaranteed to happen every week

the theme streams were fine as is because they were a rarity and special each time

[orchid finch]

Just make the chill streams longer atp just for the "just chatting"

[tough onyx]

I want the graduation stream

Jk

Or am I

[real charm]

because a most of the segments require active viewing
they're less chill

just chatting is basically purely audio so you don't need to pay that much attention making them better podcast type streams which many use as background noise

[gaunt marsh]

And that's what I'm talking about your "yap segments" only, could be the theme streams

[fierce beacon]

sure, that would be fine(ish) by me
I still think it would be a kinda meaningless distinction

but thats not what was the suggested terms by canruf afaik

[fierce beacon]

okay I just dont think making a stream like that is beneficent to the channel

I much prefer the more active viewing experience that is the current chill streams with segments

[somber robin]

Holy fuck woke up swimming in sweat, good afternoon

[fierce beacon]

are you feeling sick or is it just hot out

[somber robin]

3:pm

[somber robin]

It is that hot

[fierce beacon]

okay well better than getting a night fever

[gaunt marsh]

The normal chill streams right now definitely is a problem , I'm down with some experiments as canruf proposed tbh

[orchid finch]

SEA rn is burning

[real charm]

my issue with segments is it turned my podcast streamer into a uhh whatever the opposite of podcast is

i don't think they're inherently bad, but they're bad for my subtype of viewer which i believe is a reasonable portion of viewers

[gaunt marsh]

Also meaningless distinction would you mind expanding on that ? Cause theme streams were a highlight for me and I don't know how it could be meaningless adding them back to the streams

[fierce beacon]

idk where ""definitely"" came from

there is no objective reason they are a problem
its entirely subjective

they could be better but every stream can be better
I dont think its time to panic or change lanes due to what I think are minor growing pains

[tough onyx]

Let’s bring in reaction content🗣️🗣️🗣️

[real charm]

you may but many enjoy more podcasty streams

[gaunt marsh]

Should have put "imo"I , you take things way to literally

[fierce beacon]

sure I 100% acknowledge that

im the opposite type of viewer from you Ig

cause these chill streams are better for me

[fierce beacon]

words matter
I interpret what you give me

[gaunt marsh]

No change no improvement

[fierce beacon]

anyways
as I said from the start
I think me and Canruf just want different things from chill streams

[tough onyx]

I like Vedal, but do I trust him and his vision? I don’t know

[cunning frigate]

: Neuro. Play a video and leave for one hour

[patent gazelle]

i think thats why hes proposing the split so you both get what u want

[fierce beacon]

but the split is NOT what I want

[orchid finch]

why not

[primal mesa]

There are reasons why chills are the lowest CCV , they might be fine for the og viewer but for someone new that comes in, it might be the worst content of the channel

[fierce beacon]

scroll up

[patent gazelle]

but it'd literally just be ur current chill streams with barely any changes + a different type of stream focused on yapping

thats what i got from it anyway

[real charm]

yeah and I'm saying it'd be nice if vedal appealed to both kinds of viewers

i don't believe having the 2 different kind of chill stream idea would harm the active viewing enjoyers as much as not having them will harm the passive viewing enjoyers

[primal mesa]

Me personally I enjoy it a lot , but I definitely think vedal needs to mix it up a little

[tough onyx]

Imagine if Vedal left neuro or evil watch tung tung sahur or invincible edits for 1 hour

[somber robin]

I think ur the same person who said that yesterday evening

[fierce beacon]

sure it WOULD be nice, hypothetically

but I think its logistically not the greatest and from the perspective of Vedal, kinda pointless

[somber robin]

What is ur obsession about tungtungslop

[fierce beacon]

he is 10 years old

[patent gazelle]

like ur point about it being wrong for the direction of the channel is valid but based on what you've said you like about chill streams you'd still be getting the current content which you enjoy

[real charm]

and what's vedals perspective?

[tough onyx]

Current brainrot meta

[gaunt marsh]

That's subjective we don't know what vedal would think about this

[somber robin]

Mods delete that person

[tough onyx]

I would be banned then

[orchid finch]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-gif-25624299

[gaunt marsh]

Best bet it's to experiment

But I hate how vedal won't commit to a change and do it for only a stream or two smh

[patent gazelle]

experimentation is the way

[fierce beacon]

that its a waste of 2 hours when he could just have it be in one stream

from the way vedal schedules his streams, I dont think he likes doing streams that are there just to "have a stream"

I dont see him wanting to essentially have 4 streams a week that are basically the same thing
cause remember if you seperate the neuro chill into two streams, he HAS to do the same with evil or all hell breaks loose

[tough onyx]

His repetitive policy didn’t last long

[patent gazelle]

i hate these discussion posts that just jump to absolutes like deleting or completely changing something existing when experimentation and fine tuning is possible

[fierce beacon]

agreed

[patent gazelle]

fuck i hate discussion posts and ive not even been here that long

[fierce beacon]

DUDE
same

not about the not being here long part

im unc

[fresh latch]

so much effort when the delete key is right there

[patent gazelle]

its just people and their opinions most of the time instead of being like, here's the objective issue and here's how to solve it

[tough onyx]

Guys we need to delete neuro

[somber robin]

Hi old man

[real charm]

who said anything about 4

we replace one chill per week
they're not that different after all
and it would fit your idea of vedals perspective

[naive bronze]

Guys I hate chill streams. Vedal should just scrap them entirely and make themed streams every week.

[cunning frigate]

Nice, is there neuro invincible edit

[fresh latch]

he should make every stream a twin stream

[fierce beacon]

if you want a neuro podcast chill and a neuro segment chill

you also need to do the same treatment for Evil

[patent gazelle]

if you've got opinionated shit to say shout into the void of NN like the rest of us

[tough onyx]

Unfortunately nobody has made one

[primal mesa]

This is pure speculation tbh, tutel could probably do it if he wanted and this way he silences the only 4/5 streams a week population

[orchid finch]

hell no

[tough onyx]

That’s why the swarm will never win most dedicated fan base

[fierce beacon]

100%
I did say "I dont think"
its my opinion
I am not Vedal

[real charm]

alternating exists
karaoke streams do it to much success

[keen heath]

my twins arrived

[fierce beacon]

sure but again
why
what is in it for him
just sounds like more work tbh

[naive bronze]

But what if my opinion is objective fact tho?

[tough onyx]

I bet the plush is flat like a pancake

[fresh latch]

🐚

[real charm]

more viewers = more money

[keen heath]

flat, and in a black bag, desperate for light

[patent gazelle]

then by definition it's not an opinion its a fact

[indigo stone]

More work but more viewers

[primal mesa]

Which is why I think it is fair to discuss these "experiments" after all a lot of thanks to members proposing stuff

[fierce beacon]

more streams does not automatically mean more viewers

I understand what you are getting at
but its not a guaranteed viewership gain

its not as cut and dry as you make it

[real charm]

getting results from your efforts

[indigo stone]

Your opinion can align with a fact, but when communicating it you would want to make clear it is a fact and not only an opinion

Hence fact supersedes opinion in most cases

Unless your trying prove you aren't an idiot

[fierce beacon]

do I sound like I am shutting his opinion down?

cause thats not at all what Im trying to do

we're just having an exchange of ideas rn

[tough onyx]

Didn’t Vedal say he wants to be like Micheal reeves?

[indigo stone]

Because it will be a waste of breath to say something is both an opinion and a fact when you could just say it's a fact and convention states that most people believe facts

[real charm]

when you say more streams do you mean types or count?

[indigo stone]

Count? Surely

[orchid finch]

no?

[indigo stone]

I fucking hope not

[orchid finch]

did he?

[real charm]

well I'm not talking about increasing stream count

[naive bronze]

I was lurking here for like an hour now and people were legit saying that they liked it better when streams were simple and had less work done on them

[fierce beacon]

I suppose both
but your argument is only type in this case

neither is a guarantee for more or new viewership

IMO

[primal mesa]

Yes , maybe ESL debuff , but what I gathered it's you said it's a waste of time for vedal what canruf proposed

[tough onyx]

I remember him saying that he wanted to be able to post like 1 YouTube video a year and do his own thing. Probably misremembering

[primal mesa]

And it's always ugly to see a proposal (even a dumb one) shot down (I got mine proposal on the office shutdown )

[indigo stone]

Nothing is a guarantee but considering that vedal987 as a channel is in the same league as channels with FAR FAR higher per stream hours and streams per week (on average admittedly this week is pretty good) then it stands to some reason

I mean he gets the same level of viewership that streamers who stream for five or six hours nearly four to five times a week get

[orchid finch]

yeah probably but him being like Michael reeves is so specific

[indigo stone]

And he can be asleep during streams as well as /s

[gaunt marsh]

My wish is for the Tuesday and Thursday streams to be as popular as dev streams or collabs

[tough onyx]

It shows that Vedal wants to be on screen the least amount of times

What would up the numbers if Vedal collabed with Obama

[fierce beacon]

what stands to reason

I dont see how it would ""guarantee" an UPTICK in viewers enough for the effort Imo

cause if your point is that he would get the same viewership
thats MY ARGUMENT on why he wouldnt go for it

whats the point is setting up alternating special chill streams when you can do the same thing you are already doing for the same viewership