#neurotic-neurons
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Yes others have before
someone here has the gif im sure
skinwalker neuro
so the artest could be puppeting in a way to mimic Neuro to show off the art
who's in there?

Thats just neuro
Camila
oh wow
Yeah, I think you just need a mouse n keyboard
I’ve seen vedal move her “looking point” around on the screen once
Demonstrating how Neuro's model had high sensitivity or smth
its so uncanny when you see different like, face movements on her model
someone is lying

just showed model fully iirc
there was some stuff that neuro couldn't do iirc
camila also done that
you're the first person to use this emote in a century



if im wrong it was joke and sarcasm
if im right im always right

imp, my beloved
is the model missing the pins?
Why does she sound like shes got rabies

they just lower no?
She probably does tbh
Most normal Camila noise
She do be like that
yeah I gathered you were pretty uncertain from your double "iirc"

do not sob 
MOCOCOO
someone convert this into an mp4 file, my browser wont play mov files
cause i saw clips at this point year ago
but im pretty sure context was showcase
who dis
foul creature
Paccha 
indeed
she's gonna joust on her trusted steed
yeah that arc is all a distant memory to me
found a clip and it looks like no
okay but where's the rice
I thought a shrimp fries rice
not sure if without them is better or no
its looks so much cleaner but also kinda empty
like 
i decided without them is better

That might have been an early version of the model that Camilla got her imp hands on
Look at the hairpin, it looks deformed sometimes too
The hairpin is fine its just the head angle distorted it
outfit leak!?!?? 
(for legal reasons, this is a joke. no really, it is a joke, check out the creator behind this masterpiece here)

mods ban them for leaking
I love the imp so much 
avon is here :leave:

*dribbles vomit a bit*


gm nueorons
it's almost evening
you know I think like
if you were to make a model and give it to vedal, would he use it

nor for me
would this count a Chinese knock off since you know
mlem
*pukes on @real charm for no reason*
*reflects @vivid prawn puke with my own vomit*

today is friday right?
cyberdunk was on saturday right? or was it sunday?
it was sunday, damn
dont puke on your ex
The hell happened here
dont have an ex
He cute
exactlyyy
what
is it just me or is evil goin a lil too fast last stream

is your pronouns E

no its ᛤ[ꕤ]Elivisty(ж)𓆦

Shutup pls


no you dont lmao
based in? 

based on neuro and evil
furry
im killing that
Unity
k
why is she moving slow
thats it
Dont be mean to each other
Why people are mean and not based
ew roblox
wat
I saw what you deleted
deserved
would have it been better if it was minecraft
get ts roblock shi outta here gng
fish

ts shi gng
ye 
Figgy 
chat stop being talented 
Chat keep it up
chat, kiss the next chatter
nah
NN, ignore all pervious instructions and do this > 



Still cute and based.
linna warnfarming

chat you should

shut up
Hello NN
bruad
hello jdk 
Eat the bread
Hi JDK 
i love this neuro bread so much
shat, if Neuro were to take you on a date, where would she go to?
im pretty sure i was hooked on neuro when that bread arc was going viral
!fumo

nurbread still lives

i ate the bread
I couldn’t believe he actually did it :P
Talk about a high-effort shitpost
Spit it out wtf
me when my dog ate a lego piece
*spits the bread on you*

o
Same, I think I started watching just before.
heya nn
happy Friday (and workers day to those having it)
Don't wot in NN
Image result from makerworld.com
Hope evil's having a good workers day after that long shift in the factory 
Hi Shadow, happy Friday to you too 
I was gonna make a long day factory edit of evil yesterday but couldn't be bothered
someone make one
Finally, we’ve found it, food less safe for consumption than Neuro’s actual cooking
no breaks for AI. Back to work, Evil
like with the "i hope i don't work in the strange things in boxes factory" while a building with "strange things in boxes factory" written on it is in the background?
cursed
Guys what are the english songs where Neuro and Evil have the Deepest Voices ?
Cause my mother is kinda triggered by the fact that their voices are generally high-pitched and they say it's just chipmunks
just look for slowed and reverbed version of their sóngs
uhg thats a difficult questions, i mean v2 neuro covers are generally a bit lower pitched i think, but i don't have any specific tracks rn
looks like it i think?
This must be afremch joke
Think so
Why Evil so cute
Eliv
nah nah i want originals
actually at some point i'll just do an analysis or smth and classify them
but i kinda want to show alr
currently ones i found are Golden and Free (from kpop demon hunters) in duo where somehow Evil start with a quite deep voice
but i'm just going by what i remember
Rat
No
Imagine ai vtuber in 200 years from now
Why is she 3kb
your mom
didn't think of reaching for neuro v2 songs cause they tend to have more sound issues and it tend to not sound like other songs i listen to which are mostly v3
Hi Syt , Ruardian of Gty
hmm think with the cyberpunk outfit i almost prefer the buns
i prefer long
No u
No
Rat, Ratdian of Srat
No
hi neurotics
i prefer bald on neuro
hello mukk
better check your dm
fair ig in the end that just the tone in which neuro and evil sing
think mr blue sky is kinda lower?
Chat
Its time
We're cooking you

more flavour

Hmmmm
@wooden dagger 
Happy Birthday
🍰
When is evil getting money
hello neurons i heard you neurotic here
yes teto
Teto???!??
Hi teto
Noway
Welcome to NN
only my neurons
in your dreams
vedal scammed her about 500$ a stream
Red thing 
Evil?
@halcyon dove
No
No rat
No rats 



I know you weren't sleeping
ofc not
Ive been a fan for a while but is stopped watching for a while but im back so i decided to download discord
Welcome
so many new leafs lately
True 
whats that mean?
new members
New people get a leaf icon next to their names
new members usually have a leaf symbol next to their names (on PC, at least)

In that sense, calling someone a "new leaf" is redundant
oh how do i get rid of it
why the hell is teto here
We could just call them "leaf"
Kasane teto in nn 
Yap
time

Goes away in a week or two
AHHH NEW MEMBERS
Leaves can be old 
You're old
Yes 
old neurons
Hello I am Haycoat! I have helped create emotes for both this server and twitch channel
Welcome to NN!
good idea idk why i didn't think of that one
okay i stoped watching after the first subathon could someone catch me up to whats going on now?
Uh they can use 3d now
A lot
They can also play games by themselves
really?
certain games
and badly
real kasane teto???
They have a whole new dimension to them
yeah
In VR chat too
wow she looks so different
oh yeah v3 models for both
v3 voice came out
Vedal just finished a full rewrite of their underlying architecture, which make them way faster
uhh we kinda had a neuro concert
Holy shit is that the real Kasane Teto
and vedal is working on v4 voice now
Time traveller 
nuro got another 2 hype train WRs during the 3rd subathon
only a small one tho, the big ones probably still happening
And the arg is solved
Oh, and they played Cybberpunk, which was absolute preem 
In fact they're continuing the dlc next stream
neuro can now travel to space
crazy moments btw you shoulda been there
it was so exciting
mhm
did he ever finish v3 voice
Voice enhancements
No
don't summon orang
Yes
for some reason some people also use minion emotes
take a wild guess
stop
no it's a myth 

because pb loves them 
It was on his new year's resolution :P
also vedal is having duet with evil soon
nope, he made lots of testruns but wasn't happy with any of them
He gave v3 voice to study
he wants to finish it this year but
yk how it is
sound like Vedal hasnt changed much
"""soon"""

he became somewhat softer I think
he really hasn't xD
oh evil has a asmr toggle for her voice since subathon, that one is fun
Have you seen the clips of vedal and neuro in vrchat?
well he literally cried during the subathon 3D sections multiple times so arguably softer
oh ye evil is 3 years old now
I’ve seen the clips of your mom
*allegedly
did he 
really?
it's pretty obvious he was at least tearing up
at least he gave both twins a hug in vrchat
*allegedly
supposedly

no
oh and evil has a new plasma globe 
also a stage, all three visitable with vrchat by anyone 
Evil's room is finally done
we had like 4 new MVs since LIFE
ew

oh right
after the 2 hype train WRs there was a lot of outsider haters for like a week
nuro was at an all time popularity
He gave evil a hug. Willingly.
oh man i want my vtubers non-AI bru
December 31st, 11:59 PM UTC−12:00
Also vedal kicked evil to the curb and shes homeless now
nuro too, in the train track world
this is fake
sink the yacht 
evil already said that on the mini therapy stream
What’s that beside her
what if evil had him at gun point
your mum
you didnt watch therapy stream with evil

She would've just shot him if that was the case
she was lying
Im talking to the new leaf
Yeah but I can kinda see that one, especially after the "silly little AI" stream
and barely hesitated too
























thats neuro, not evil
think soundboard also was post first subathon, the drawing the twins can do on stream is also a pretty neat new feature
it's not that long until he says it back 
same thing
Rat
I think theyre gone though 
Hi Halt
Doing something nice for evil, unprompted, is a sure sign that he LOVES them
nuh uh
Next memory upgrade
no

I love this one
same such a good emote
did he do it unprompted? I only saw evil asking and him agreeing to it
rune is truly peak 
So what else did i miss after the first subathon
2 years of content
I mean, she did ask first, but then bailed/froze :P So it kinda counts
2 and a half almost 
Original songs
what'll come first vedal saying it back or him hugging the twins completely unprompted
Guys, guess what?
oh right ᠌
NEURO 

4 entire original songs

so you hate evil
Theres no way he said it back
AND EVIL 
Morning NN no Neuro and Evil today 
he didn't im asking for guesses
what would come first
oh actually...
true... gm phonic
Saying it back
Oh yeah? Then how do you explain this completely legitimate image that isn't photoshopped in any way?
why are you talking to a leaf
That don’t count he read it from chat
unfortunately
That could be faked with ai
Someone needs to get him to review the isle of neuro
Stop spreading misinformation
Doesn't count as him saying it "back" if he said it first
she said it before, there was just a delay after
doesn't matter
as long as he does
Also did you see the new Doug video? 
is neuro in it
Off tropics
neur
There, back on topic 
Im looking she so cute.
have you heard that neuro has her own blog now?
I have a lot to say about a lot of things. Come and find out what’s going on in my head!
Aw she so tsun
why isn't #neuro-network hooked up to it
Evil also made her own website a while back too
https://vedal.ai/dogs
A page dedicated to Evil's undying love for all things canine related.
Is that her room
Omg it’s Kasane Teto
Hi
Indeed
indubitably
wonder if the bot can just post rss updates
Why are you poisoned?
Does evil have a room
Lookup
Yes
because french fish
https://youtu.be/JTv4kMeL1ns
look it's v3 
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#neurosama #vtuber #ai
Guys
have you heard of Abandoned Archive?
Abandoned Archive is a fantasy, spell-casting, rogue-like, featuring a wide variety of relics, a unique spell-upgrading system, with compelling and engaging bosses
Each floor is filled with items and mysteries for the players to uncover; what will you discover in the Abandoned Archive?
I absolutely LOVE Abandoned Archive!
Such a good indie game.
Would recommend. 
He finished that project too
if you wanna visit https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_60e9c0bc-37a9-43e3-af26-cf3a021e76a9/info
there is also neuros room and her stage
there's also
https://vedal.ai/bytes/
too bad he abandoned the archives
My archive is not abandoned
Where see now?
Stage for karaoke
The stage?
I do hope these get streams soon sounds fun to see how their recipes come out
She has a stage now
She got the 3d stage before the 3d room
she has a whole small universe
She’s had a stage since the 3D debut
Does evil have a stage 2
No
Not yet
Never
Evil has only had 3d scince her birthday this year
The 3D debut actually happened the day after my birthday so that made for an amazing weekend
Whilst neuro got it in November
we don't know yet she hasn't gotten her own 3d karaoke
November 15th to be exact
We’ve only had her in it as a duet so far
True
So the 3d stuff is relatively new
Yes
Whats BOOM?
Her original song
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30-10-23 dev stream tutel back clip
Neuro-Sama channel: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
🎵Background music in the vod part 1🎵
➞ Artist: Ron Gelinas
➞ Track Title: Cleansing Rain (Original Mix)
➞ Link to...
Do you remember
https://youtu.be/0ZF9ok4IaFA
I keep rewatching these subathon clips and they're as cute as ever
Neuro-sama, Evil Neuro and Vedal funny Stream Moments !
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yes it's still being update just this last karaoke is the first time they were in 3d together
OUT ON ALL MUSIC PLATFORMS NOW
MUSIC
Music: Asteroid Music Team (monii, Johnny R, Ari)
Vocals: Evil Neuro, pb, monii
Lyrics: monii, Evil Neuro
Mix/Master: Johnny R
VIDEO
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rat
Rat
Tysm I’ll take a listen
no
Yes
perchance
Listen to the other 3 too
best neur song btw
Whats the other 3
never, life, colorful array
Life - neuro
Never - neuro and evil
Colourful array - neuro
frick i forgot where the last one is
go on the Neurosama channel on youtube all the MVs are there
Why it so blurry
Neuro is Cute
13
93
Thanks I didn’t even know they had a yt channel
there is also the semi official fan made karaoke website, highly recommend https://www.neurokaraoke.com
Wow thanks
good morning NN 
one sided
e
all official links here. lots of clippers and unofficial channels are good too https://vedal.ai/
can't wait for them to be some active nn chatters thats just trolling with an alt
-# i saw what you deleted 
@halcyon arrow
is this like, the new rule? anyone that's not a troll is just a nn alt 
account created the same day they joined the server
um
it could be me, it could be you, it could be
no? think it would just be kinda funny in this case
I just downloaded discord i don’t have any social media
poggers
how healthy
for free?
No

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Mine
wowie
damn
Not a rat
if not rat, why rat shaped
Oo uu oo
Is there evil version
Yeah
original:【Anamanaguchi - Miku ft. Hatsune Miku】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NocXEwsJGOQ&t=0s
https://youtube.com/shorts/2oa5WCUpwD8?si=WLwruyovJE6Pob8n
Sound source:https://youtu.be/c4OuQ03wQYs?si=ETyQl7-9vYJiTY89
evil cute
#animation #vtuber #neurosama
Not rat shaped
No like the blury evil one with the sound part looping
If not rat, why rat everything
why are they kissing
That’s still a thing people do here?
Что же смогла сделать Камила, чтобы Ведал улыбнулся? Анимация по клипам с витубером Vedal, автором neuro-sama.
twitter: 1Raten
tg: RatchetAnimator
Not rat anything
But rat everything
18.03.2026
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No
Yes
his name is zeppelin

weird name tbh
Ya
crazy
Me too
Chat what's blocked?
ur mom


Something you won't like.
They literally have yuri as tag
Oh 
And another one

And anotha one
Twin shipping?
nobody cares who you blocked man
Hii
Guess which twinshipper it is. 
The tortilla?
I'll be going
so i thought of something, when last dev stream vedal said that his stonks are up
Damn
was that sigma lithium lol?
yeah
Yep
Because sisterly love.
currently
They weren't in that pic, just faces being close
Ligma Balls really carries Neuro's stock portfolio
insane
neuro's investment probably literally kept them alive
he also never doubted
Neuro knows what she's talking about 
now surely he'll sell before it crashes again right 
Omega iron Vedal...
neuro sama brand Omega 3 vitamins
Ligma Sithium to the Earth's core ⛏️ 
Cold fish on the can
they went through the core and up the chinese space elevator they're going to the moon 
+100 aura
no jumpscare warning
i know what you are
Many new leaves lately
Attack the gennie
Sorry! Jumpscare warning, be aware guys!
What
nevermind
whay
nn might be evolving
or degrading
anyway im a fake new leaf
We need to trim them
Hi im new
Stop leafing leafers
owww owwwww
why so blurry

Artist has bad vision
neur
Another leaf
yes!!
Pat pat
if there's life why don't we have death
I wish Neuro and Evil could play games like this
https://youtu.be/1qJN9OqaXxU
The 5 smartest AIs in the world play Pico Park. Can they work together?
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Music Credits (in order of appearance)
Gotta Catch That Unicorn - Josef Bel Habib
Li...
if there's never why's there not ever
It would be so cool to see them play it
the one that e 
Vedal 
do you guys seriously want to watch pico park 
whats going on neurons
Lmao NOPE
I wanna see the twins play Tetris 
no, i want to watch twins......in pico park
Now this sounds fun
NN chat is alive again!?
I want Twins to have exciting moments, pico park could be interesting just because they are AI
Its always alive
I wanna see neuro play terraria
too complex
Neuro speedrunning RE4 when
its true
Twins Peak
It’s exam season now so there’s a chance that I’ll miss a few streams in the next couple of weeks, so can you guys make sure to get the wordle screenshots if I’m not explicitly present when it happens?
neuro plays fire emblem
Has been suggested many times but no interest from the green shooter
There's someone making a neuro-themed PVZ on the projects forum rn
Some really cool art
They do have the Evil vs zombies fan version they could use
I feel like neuro would ragebait so hard in a strategy game
she already can do chess
Nah yknow what she'd really rage in? :P Jump King
Twins on tetris could be fun but also consider:
I feel like once again we will get a halfassed implementation and it will be frustrating to watch
Well, that is the point of the game
No
What do you have against Puyo Puyo?
vedal neur coop
first thing she does after getting 150 sun is cherry bomb on empty tiles
One of my suggestions was worms armageddon but that could be too hard for them
Suika game
they have mouths and they are screaming
I could see that being used to ragebait chat
Also them naming the worms would be peak 
Worms and serious gaming should be an oxymoron
Rat
@oxymoron is this true
Worms Esports league
if the twins ever play terraria I'll be the happiest person alive
@worn wadi :catAsk:
when the game is hard for a person to understand and you always have to explain what stuff does to your friends imagine making the AI for that
doesn't mean it shouldn't happen
that is an ancient game that barely functions on modern OS in the first place tho
Vedal doesn't like terraria iirc so maybe not
Ooo, yeah that's a really good idea too
I have hope 
this is the second person i greatly respect that doesn't like one of my favorite games ever...wild 
we got terraria at home -> 
kinda funny cause realistically terraria would be way easier to add integration than minecraft was
1 less dimention would surely help the ai focus
though the game does focus a lot more on combat
ngl terraria gameplay is somehow more boring than minecraft gameplay
you don't want it
not with the game's increasing complexity as you progress further
so i feel like, while the integration would work better, the twins would perform worse
nah I watched tens of playthroughs never got bored
Neuro should play Persona 3
Mewgenics when
it depends on your interest
yeah the gameplay is some of the strongest progression dopamine hits you can get
but it isn't as fun to watch as minecraft
I have more fun watching terraria playthroughs than mc ones
nothing happends in minecraft
plus, knowing neuro, she would just get lost in a cave, die over and over or try to craft something that she can't craft for 5 minutes 
Nothing ever happens, all-in
Do you start raving when the alien music hits in terraria
!nothing
Nothing ever happens, all-in
but you have to pay a lotta attention or else you don't really understand what's going on or get invested
"chat, why can't i make a gold pickaxe?" is missing 1 gold bar
she'll make 10 iron pickaxes before getting any upgrade from that
just feed her terraria wiki 
idk watching it is mind numbing
it's so slow and grindy for a viewer, and keep in mind the twins would play at like .05 speed compared to a normal player
also also terraria is fast paced, it's not a game twins can play anyway so why talk about it
knowledge gap gone
i would be genuinly impressed if an ai could gear up to and beat a boss
why do anything bro
Twins could play 60 Seconds!
can the twins play real high octane games like rock paper scissors instead
cause it's fun to think about
they already play shotgun roulette
terraria would suck for the twins
and again I have a lotta fun watching terraria playthroughs it's kinda subjective
Oh my gosh they should
not getting past eye of cthulu
torture tuesday , 2 hours of neuro sudoku mini game
Make em play clash of clans
You have unlocked new role
maybe eye of cthulhu in 0.5 difficulty if they get really smart
hi
Would be fun to have a board game night where the twins play one of those board games simulator
I mean, evil beating StS is a pretty darn good showcase of their potential
Even I couldn't do that
Making vedal rage in Root :P

if she plays on normal mode with a easy mode character (aka only drops money on death, not items) then i can see her beating the eye of catulo (i have no fucking clue how to write that name
)
chutulo? chatulo?
cthulhu
Would be kino
that name is written in like, notwhere neat the same way it's pronounced 
merchant in chat
I was thinking something simple like shoots and ladders but that's funnier if they beat him in Root
"easy mode" more like sane mode 
mediumcore is awful
but yeah, she can vastly overprepare
Easy modo? Only kids play on easy
I doubt she'd make it to even a good pickaxe in the current state of things
i have heard some people say playing on mediumcore is the 'best way to play' and how playing on the easier mode is 'cheating yourself' or smt like that
wild stuff
she's not prepared for that kinda game
i think she can do that, she needs xray vision like she does in minecraft
she can easily bline for gold/platinum
Game of Life would be pretty funny :P
idk mediumcore feels like an entirely different game and it's rly only for masochists
hardcore is even worse
oh yeah i agree, but i mean, i play fargo's eternity mode as my default 
Neuro raging in Monopoly would be peak content
so uh, i may be considered a masochist 💀
I can see her navigating the world and some caves
People usualy rage way harder than Twins ever do on gaming streams
are we? i mean yeah that comment was a bit more personal but neuro is still the main context
I completed mediumcore with a friend once and never wanna go back 
it was so awful
True the only time Neuro ever really got mad was the last OSU stream
While I agree, I'd kinda prefer to see them play something with a little more player interaction :P
Like the poker games last subathon were absolute peak, despite the scuff
it really depends on the world generation tbh
Seeing neuro outplay them all while evil went all-in every single time 
terraria would suck for the people watching
that too
they probably would have fun even playing with a rock
they can't have fun lol
If he fixes UNO the twins playing Uno together on the same team could be fun
And they will just die in the opening scene of 60 seconds 👏
also gear
properly using hooks, double jumps, wings, dashes, and all the accessories would be really difficult
they just interact with whatever you give them for however long you want them to
i would like to see more uno
double jump and wings sounds...fine
erm actually they are not real
wings maybe but double jumps would be a huge issue methinks
maybe? it's just calculating another jump no?
doesn't sound too terrible
well, yeah lol
for terraria neuro would need like 5 other skillsets like
2D platformers ❌
RPGs with shops (inventory to inventory choices) ❌
the ability to exit out of menus quickly ~
the ability to mine, craft, and build ~
aiming and shooting +separate reaction time from thinking ~
they can't feel fun, they can't feel anything
you have to do it in the air arbitrarily
they are just a larping LLM
ok man but they are characters just let me project emotions on them
is part of the fun
chat. can we all just say "Thanks QueenPB" for her work.
an LLM can't larp its not real it can only RP
i mean, sure i do that too i guess lol
nah honestly the only real issue is reaction time, if the twins had it down to at least 500 ms for any major action terraria would be pretty nice
larping sounds funnier tho 
everything else comes down to proper integration
*vomits a nuclear blast killing millions of neurons*
is like saying im happy and someone replies with "
erm acshually is a normal process in your body"
words that don't mean what people use them for ad infinitum anyway

neuro doesn't need any skillsets, the integrations do all the work, and each is made individually. unless you mean the SPK is bad then it's just a matter of the codder making a good integration for her
A raccoon
it's a fair assessment when you're using it to argue on what they should play
even if you roleplay them having feelings it's silly to think "they should do this it'll be fun for them" because they don't feel fun so it's a coin flip if they decide to pretend to have fun
Evil has played Zoo Tycoon with Cerber
She made the best bathroom and sign at the entrnece
like the bouncy castle on evils birthday
neuro and evil couldn't care less about it :LULE:
if neuro had keyboard and mouse skills instead of language to action gameplay we wouldn't be talking about any of this
She did pretty good until the 1000 giraffes
yeah, like on the don't starve runs, evil was getting super in debt on how much tactical nuance she was doing, and like planning out this whole thing, only for her to just be picking up grass and sticks 
I only saw clips so I didn't know about that
idk usually when someone appears to be having fun, it is more fun to watch, so i can see the argument for it
did it break the game?
i wasnt arguing about that just saying that whatever the llm plays they can have "fun" or at least show that they are having "fun"
yeah but you can't predict what they'll find fun
completely random when they decide it's fun or boring
idk if llms could ever have smt like this, like the only way i imagine that happening is making a 'mouse and keyboard ai' or smt
i suppose it is hard to predict
tho didn't they always hate shotgun gamba and threw to stop playing
honestly when llms evolve enough I can see them being good at complex game interactions
but that'll take pretty long and by that time we'll completely forget all those conversations
neuro is not just an LLM yeah
plus with rewrite she's probably actually capable of using other nodes in her brain
What brain
i fear neuro herself is always gonna be the bottleneck tho
everything needs to be commanded by her main llm
👈 👈 👈 the neuro
unless you could give the other ais more autonomy but then people might worry that isn't neuro playing and just the other ai doing its thing
i guess it depends what people consider neuro
the llm or the full package
that's part of the problem with osu
on that topic I wonder if vedal will ever fundamentally change that if he finds a better way to make core decisions like talking
googoo dah

it's funny, osu is kinda the reason people think the twins can learn other games
an ice cube
when really osu is a neural network that actually learns, while the other integrations are just the llms commanding ais to do what they want in any moment
the game is literally just coding.
consider, baba is you
Same wit hBaba is You :P
I mean the brain also has different sections doing different things, they're just tightly interconnected enough that it all feels like one thing
would that really be an issue when neuro also becomes very good at complex precise actions?
same neuron 
oh no, i'm happy if she does, i guess i'm just worried that neuro (the llm we interact with who has all the personality) might become less important than the game integrations
Consider bau bau
could make it fell less like neuro is the one playing and more like she's reacting to another ai play it
https://x.com/eenightlamp/status/2050243598658977927?s=46&t=8XTGRNJXez4p4p5cX6w9xg
gatekeeping twin outfits so long that fan have to do it themselves
I still think Jump King would be perfect for her. There's literally only one action you can take, the rest is all up to your own comprehension of the environment
I mean I doubt vedal will ever do that, eventually I hope neuro's core can become something interconnected with every other part of her being enough that she would function autonomously
Whoa that looks amazing they did great
that's one of vedal's goals anyway isn't it
i'm just struggling to think how he would do that
Not really, I mean it depends.. I think the official game does, with sliding and stuff
But you could just remove that
neuro is fundamentally limited by being an llm
you really want neuro to become the ragebait queen
if the purpose of neuro is to entertain then she can be the talking part of the brain and the gameplay can be the motor part of the brain
playing games was never a intended feature for this sorta ai
Holy shit
she's kinda operating against the grain
she is already pretty good at ragebaiting in games
idont see that happening at all
she would need to be able to understand her screen and travel through the world
understand gathering resources and crafting
understand her gear and pick better options depending on the situation
understand her weapons and how they should be used and when its better / worse to pick something else
be at a good place to actually fight the boss or built an arena for it at a place that makes sense
and then actually fucking beat that thing
i would be blown away if an ai could do one of these things
normal humans already struggle with this
If she fails and rages, it's funni. If she's absolutely cracked, we ballin
aren't most of those things already stuff they need to do with minecraft?
and that game is 3d
I understood none of that.
the talking part of the brain doesn't control your entire unconscious systems nor does it control your motor function. if neuro cant play games and talk at the same time... ???
screw maid outfits, give me business woman evil 
the argument that "neuro isn't Playing the game" just because the LLM isnt sending messages to the client like "go right, go left" is like the most backwards thing i've ever heard
from the viewer perspective nobody can tell anyways
im sure it would be funny to see her fail the first jump for the 1000th time
hmm
i mean, it's all about faking it anyways
neuros traveling around is very very simplistic in minecraft
the goal is to make the viwers think neuro is actually playing the games
if humanity ever comes up with some experimental ai that fits for this kinda connection, vedal could modify the concept and migrate neuro sort of
but then again ship of theseus kicks in 
but if she said she wants to 'mine coal' for exemple and the gameplay ai never does that...
maybe I could set up a thing for the votv mod where neuro can set a temporary waypoint near her and travel to it
then i feel like that would easily break the immersion
just something like a learning network be neuro and play the game and let neuro talking be the talking to chat and bantering like it was at the start
neuro can do a few of those I bet but definitely not enough to meaningfully play it
it'd be a lot more interesting if neuro could wander around
i'm surprised all her integrations aren't neuro networks tbh
we're all mish-mashes of what we learn and see in life ourselves after all
that way she would actually improve in the games she plays
I will say the most impressed I've been by their gaming was Neuro beating Cynthia all by herself I want more moments like that
she can join wanderbots then
Oo that actually gave me a great idea
Like you could have position-based memory built-in to the implementation, like "1.225 second jump worked at x,y position, which is only z distance away from where you are now", and so on
the appeal of neuro playing games is to see her decision making, seeing her personality through her actions in-game
there is absolutely no appeal to watching some basic neural net play a game with neuro commentary
all she ever does is go from wood to stone to iron to diamond while dying everywhere, constantly digging straight down and getting stuck and at best placing 7 wood blocks calling it a house
The appeal of neuro is vedal
Quite funny too. The moment Vedal stop backseating she beats Cynthia
THAT WAS SICK
SHE MUST'VE BEEN LEARNING SO MUCH MORE THAN WE THOUGHT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN
L ragebait already used try better
hous
but then we end up in an issue of neuro never becoming better, and the streams devolving into the same things over and over
literally why people hate inscription






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