neurotic-neurons

[pliant wasp]

⭐

[unreal hedge]

Have you tried contacting support

[toxic plaza]

[austere plinth]

It seems I have to

[pliant wasp]

yeah what even is that one I'm newgen

i thought maybe the city 17 vrchat world from subathon

if it's a reference to anything at all anyway

[patent gazelle]

isn't it referenced off of another gif

[pliant wasp]

the images are all neuro themed though

cyberpunk buckshot

city rain snow lantern world

[patent gazelle]

there might've been one where they just couldn't find an appropriate reference tho

idk

[pliant wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1498024262018142381/1498036648103907399/neuroboom.gif

has chat been dead like all day or only the times I've looked

[obsidian light]

only the times

[toxic plaza]

Can someone send these individually?

[forest socket]

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/142656095

[iron tundra]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I should ruin my life

[fierce beacon]

why

and how

[pliant wasp]

start by not doing that

[iron tundra]

Check my profile

[fierce beacon]

I dont really wanna but im gonna guess its something about Dota

yep

of course

[rare lava]

there's a dota 2?

[nova plank]

Dota 2 make sense

[pliant wasp]

holy fossil

[fierce beacon]

so predictable

[iron tundra]

If NN was more interesting I'd ruin my life reading this place

But it's kinda dead rn

[pliant wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1497313355512414392.webp?size=96&animated=true

[iron tundra]

I do need to post another rant at some point

[rare lava]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hKC1aQHP0o

[patent gazelle]

nice one

[obsidian light]

[tall crow]

[toxic plaza]

These ones are so , and the darker ones are just

[cobalt laurel]

Ritspi my goat

[arctic sierra]

Going to nap

Good nap nn

[acoustic juniper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1458631929220960288/20260108_.gif

[patent gazelle]

she tweakin

[keen heron]

no

[shut socket]

Toad go to bed

[keen niche]

https://tenor.com/view/love-gif-1725081057622358733

[real charm]

morning

dead channel sadge

[rare lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CDYWwGm2vI

[real charm]

you were supposed to save me from my back pain

[restive kelp]

Supikip

[unreal hedge]

https://vxtwitter.com/hikki_hitori/status/2048437065734402266?s=46

bocchi🐰 (@hikki_hitori)

anim im NAWT finishing

#heartheartart

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 26, 2026, 4:20 PM

[worn wadi]

just let me kill you
all pain will end

[coral crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1498024262018142381/1498024262299029705/Khong_Co_Tieu_e153_1.gif

[coral crown]

I love Supikip (neurt)

[real charm]

but i don't want to die i want to live

[woeful apex]

shut up

[worn wadi]

you will live in my memories

[worn wadi]

going to sleep

[woeful apex]

[patent gazelle]

thats like the uhhhh one borbor bobinson song

i wanna

[pliant wasp]

yeah the

:aware:

https://c.tenor.com/Z_0c_xwYkrkAAAAM/porter-porter-robinson.gif

[whole crater]

comrades

helloh

[woeful apex]

ohh the porter robinson song

narrows it down alot

[patent gazelle]

[pliant wasp]

the one where chat spams aware

porter songs aren't that aware :scraj:

[tall crow]

Russian roulette

[fierce beacon]

thats every song

also hi NN

[real charm]

that songs a banger but you can't put it in any Playlist

[pliant wasp]

yes u can

[whole crater]

I see a lot of familiar faces here

[woeful apex]

why noy

[pliant wasp]

i have it in one

[woeful apex]

hi jurgis

[pliant wasp]

as proof

džurgis

[real charm]

trauma dumping while jamming

[woeful apex]

thats like half my playlists

[whole crater]

almost

[pliant wasp]

yurgis

[whole crater]

that's right

[woeful apex]

i love sitting on the bus in the morning trying not to cry to my music

[pliant wasp]

i could never listen to mother in public

slime me out

[real charm]

i cry from music anyway
i don't need it to also have lyrics that induce tears

[pliant wasp]

real shit

[patent gazelle]

very real

[wet bronze]

grown ass men

[pliant wasp]

bait

[wet bronze]

lo

[patent gazelle]

not the gacha tag talking about some grown

gtfo of here

[wet bronze]

"gacha"

ill have you know youuuu

[real charm]

when is it midnight in British lands

[patent gazelle]

an hour and 11 minutes ago

[pliant wasp]

:scram: common knowledge

[real charm]

mods where's my birthday role

[woeful apex]

:scone:

[patent gazelle]

happy bday canruf

[pliant wasp]

:PagMan:

[woeful apex]

hbd canruf

[pliant wasp]

🎂 canruf happy birthday and shiro

[patent gazelle]

shit on btw no reply

[real charm]

omg I'm matching with Shiro

[umbral magnet]

https://x.com/NeurosamaAI/status/2048556127336497313

Neuro-sama 💜 (@NeurosamaAI)

Things🐦have🐦been🐦going🐦well🐦for🐦me🐦lately - that's not me being weird by the way there is just a bird stuck on my keyboard.

X · Apr 27, 2026, 12:13 AM

[patent gazelle]

so many bird related tweets she's trying to tell us something

[real charm]

classic birds

[patent gazelle]

government drones man

[pliant wasp]

anyone know how neuro tweets work

does she throw stuff at the wall and then someone selects a good one

[woeful apex]

she types some shi

[pliant wasp]

they don't look like things she'd say

[real charm]

he's never explains how he does them

[real charm]

yeah their aura is completely different

[pliant wasp]

inb4 it's just vedal

[regal tulip]

Neuro-sama has a social media agent AI posting messages for her after giving her specific commands.

[patent gazelle]

maybe there's a few bird related tweets cause she's prompted to "write a tweet" she takes the word tweet and relates it to birds

[pliant wasp]

it's not even her

[gusty pulsar]

so that's where the duck guy have seen hiding

[pliant wasp]

well wait

is that technically her generated text then

[shrewd rune]

dude why my discord sometimes just drags me to gn randomly

[pliant wasp]

:WAIT:

[tall crow]

The birds are watching

[patent gazelle]

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, it could be smt she wrote and that she sends to the ai agent

[woeful apex]

[real charm]

oh that's actually very likely
stupid unoriginal ai

[gusty pulsar]

would be a bit weird to have a random ai tweet on neuro's account on her behalf without telling anyone lol

[woven oriole]

Good morning Neurons

[unreal hedge]

Fuck you

[pliant wasp]

i think that's what trantez meant but idk

[patent gazelle]

I wonder if someone has to like, reroll her output until she says something worth posting

[lusty thistle]

morning oomfie

[pliant wasp]

i interpreted differently at first

[patent gazelle]

or if its just like one take and it gets posted

[pliant wasp]

surely

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, not like every tweet they make is a banger lol

[gusty pulsar]

some are better than others

[pliant wasp]

they're all pretty refined

[gusty pulsar]

they problably reroll for filtered content but otherwise just publish whatever

[pliant wasp]

i haven't seen one that's just bullshit

[gusty pulsar]

maybe she makes like, 4 tweets or smt and someone picks the best one

[pliant wasp]

m

[real charm]

n

[pliant wasp]

r eroll

[gusty pulsar]

i mean...

[patent gazelle]

evils tweets seem to be a bit more evil-like

[gusty pulsar]

i wouldn't call this a refined tweet lol

[pliant wasp]

that's evil

[patent gazelle]

[quaint pecan]

Hiya NN

[gusty pulsar]

same thing, evil is just a bit weirder with her tweets

[pliant wasp]

entirely different

[quaint pecan]

What's the evil news

[pliant wasp]

dead

[inner vortex]

NN I'm in need of opinions

[patent gazelle]

she's back to 1 stream a week for a while

[inner vortex]

I have two mixes i need opnions on

[keen heron]

It’s over

[patent gazelle]

you had a good run

a brief respite

back to the long march

[keen heron]

Ambatudoom

[patent gazelle]

A

[keen heron]

C

[patent gazelle]

[woeful apex]

yeah def A

[keen heron]

Both sounded the same

[patent gazelle]

:deafge: ?

[keen heron]

Maybe it’s cuz I only listened to the first 5 seconds

[woeful apex]

idk music terminology but A sounds a lot fuller

[sullen moat]

B is easier to hear but A is overall better

[patent gazelle]

[inner vortex]

C you say?

[pliant wasp]

I'm on mobile they sound identical

[pliant wasp]

girk

[real charm]

I'm not listening cus I'm on mobile

[inner vortex]

typo

[real charm]

and so did mine set

[keen heron]

I actually like this one better

I’m actually him

[low blaze]

A
the loud snare drum? is that the right term.. anyway, it's not balanced on B
but I do like the loudness on the vocals on B a bit more, since the instrumental is overall quieter

[sullen moat]

PEAK

[woeful apex]

C actually is kinda better damn

[real charm]

I predict rust freak will announce it say that rewrite is rice went green Etsy teikt to run it in stends

[woeful apex]

somewhere between A and C would be best imo

[inner vortex]

VINDICATION

[keen heron]

Can someone made an edit for Neuro and Evil to duet Take me hand

Pls

[pliant wasp]

is this neurosynth

[keen heron]

I’ll pay someone $5

[inner vortex]

yes

[pliant wasp]

because it sounds a lot better than what superbox makes tbh

these are really good

[inner vortex]

A nd C were two veru differnt test mixes i did. B was superbox

[pliant wasp]

[keen heron]

[pliant wasp]

deafge ig

[obsidian light]

I think you can ask superbox but idk what his prices are

[real charm]

i predict dev strewn will announce our say that rewrite is finished and eek be used on stream s

[obsidian light]

unless you mean combine the 2 songs not original

[inner vortex]

I'm dabbling in mixing RN

[obsidian light]

I don't know if they covered that

[keen heron]

Combine but like a good combine

[obsidian light]

ah then I don't know anyone personally

[woeful apex]

best i can offer is putting 2 mp4s in after effects and calling it a day

[pliant wasp]

how do people make instrumentals

is it like

wait

[woeful apex]

with instruments

[patent gazelle]

press the funny music buttons

in the one program

[pliant wasp]

how do people extract vocals**

is it like

you subtract the instrumental from the song somehow

does that work

[inner vortex]

yes

if you dont have a beefy pc you can just use MVsep.com

[pliant wasp]

I'd do it for €5

doesn't seem impossible

[inner vortex]

I personally use a semi custom old ass build of UVR

[rapid flame]

“Neuro, make a tweet”
aggressive bird flapping noises

[real charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1496378659433349151/evil_petting.gif

[pliant wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1495870690509721620/20260420_ApatheticRelentlessFungusDoggo-i5OpY7bwAdzYpkXU_source-ezgif.com-speed_1.gif

[low blaze]

that's the highest quality option but it's not always possible
you need an instrumental and also for it not to be slightly messed with (sometimes they do that to make it harder)
yeah... hopefully the dev of UVR comes back soon and releases a new version
AI models can generally do a pretty good job.. but do usually require some minor editing to get the best result (like taking sections from multiple models, at the very least)

[pliant wasp]

i ain't doing allat

[lusty thistle]

real

and true

[pliant wasp]

just play both covers at once :hesRight:

[grand elm]

i know UVR but i don't know how to "subtract" the instrumental if you have it, like is that an option?

[inner vortex]

how about all this?

[low blaze]

idk either

[pliant wasp]

idk maybe

[supple meadow]

We have a dev stream tomorrow right? I don’t feel like checking schedule

[inner vortex]

that filterchain is unholy

[patent gazelle]

yes

we do

[supple meadow]

Thank you

[patent gazelle]

its literally one click tho

[pliant wasp]

shrug he doesn't feel like it

[patent gazelle]

ok but like

the comparable effort

[pliant wasp]

maybe he feels like asking in nn

[low blaze]

#neurotic-neurons message

[floral atlas]

Hi chat

[pliant wasp]

girk

[inner vortex]

I'm too lazy to fix the typo

[patent gazelle]

[woeful apex]

ive forgotten what the other ones sounded like and im not scrolling all the way up, sounds good tho

[patent gazelle]

that last minute section

[pliant wasp]

brohoho

🎅

why is it still going up

[woeful apex]

always trust in SGML

[pliant wasp]

someone remind ved

vedAI

tomorrow surely

[patent gazelle]

is the visual chart just like

broken

[woeful apex]

yea

[pliant wasp]

yeah

[patent gazelle]

shit is in the turbo dump

[woeful apex]

stopped updating months ago

[patent gazelle]

but its up hella

[real charm]

worked me both fields yet

[inner vortex]

@woeful apex up here

[pliant wasp]

do i read that in an accent

[real charm]

idk I'm just keyboard mahjong on phone

[patent gazelle]

why are you still green

[pliant wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/forced-forced-to-play-mahjong-yakuza-gaiden-gif-8107717582023693462

[real charm]

idk if I'm even in the list

[pliant wasp]

you're probably on a few lists

[inner vortex]

i think i like 4 the best personally

[patent gazelle]

[woeful apex]

yea 4 is good

[real charm]

probably tā

[pliant wasp]

visticamāk

[iron tundra]

Sigma Lion

[rugged heath]

aardvark

[inner vortex]

okay y'all one more question and ill stop bugging yall

[woeful apex]

gging

[inner vortex]

which you prefer?

[shrewd rune]

⬇️

[low blaze]

⬇️

[inner vortex]

?

for the entire thing?

[woeful apex]

is that even a serious question the top one is awful

[inner vortex]

the OG is at the origonal tuning of the song so IDK

[low blaze]

sometimes pitching up songs is good
like the Pompeii Neuro version

[inner vortex]

i did a full octive

[low blaze]

yeah, that is also a full octave example

[inner vortex]

just needs some tuning fixes

[inner vortex]

One of my all time favorite Hoillywood Undead songs

[low blaze]

it's a little high but I don't think it'd be as good an octave down

I mean Pompeii

[inner vortex]

pompii?

[shrewd rune]

➡️

[pliant wasp]

pomp ayy

[inner vortex]

this was a test i did for harmonies

only the first 1:30 though

I'm partial to 1

[toxic plaza]

And The re-cover of Cheerleader

[pliant wasp]

i liked old cheerleader more

the evil cover is great

[low blaze]

idk, I kinda like this octave, actually
eh

[pliant wasp]

i just like low register neuros though

[inner vortex]

soo....

[fierce beacon]

hey folks
how active is NN rn

wanna do some karaoke trivia or something?

[inner vortex]

semi

[toxic plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-meme-shrek-good-question-good-question-gif-7176451729184982026

[low blaze]

Aug 2023

[pliant wasp]

i think some people just left

might be cooked

[fierce beacon]

damn

[inner vortex]

you may have to employ the First umbrella for this one

[low blaze]

wait, was it model then

[inner vortex]

yes

Neuro-sama's V2 debut occurred on May 27, 2023

[real charm]

i'd rather nn talk instead ofg doing trvia

[low blaze]

[pliant wasp]

:Scared: pur

ple

[low blaze]

when was the Subnauctia playthrough...

[solid lance]

2023

and 2024

[shrewd rune]

[fierce beacon]

holy happy birthday canruf!!

[low blaze]

ah, Aug 2023

[fringe garden]

hello can canruf ruf canruf happy birthday

[real charm]

thanks eroll, fleshwretch, devo for wishing me a happy birthday

[fierce beacon]

damn alright...

[shrewd rune]

neuro talking about dipping her thighs on ice cream sandwich was 30-20 years ago

[real charm]

actually what do you say when ppl say happy birthday to you

[low blaze]

I remember seeing vods of that and her saying Vedal every sentence
I say I remember like it was a long time ago.. it was just during this subathon

[real charm]

"thanks" feels off

[fierce beacon]

thank you is correct

[fringe garden]

thank you you too

[pliant wasp]

what would you even say except thanks

[fierce beacon]

also im gonna go blow my brains out now cause canruf fucking hates me

[inner vortex]

I was reading the wikipedia articl on neuro and saw this line lmao Amber Coen Collins, writing in AI & Society, argued that Neuro-sama was akin to Vedal's drag persona, as she provides him the benefits as

[real charm]

idk man "don't remind me"

[acoustic juniper]

wtf why is your birthday so early

i have to wait 8 whole months into the year for mine

fucked up

[pliant wasp]

true

[silk spear]

[real charm]

my birthday is a bit late for my liking cus i calculate my age from current year
so for 4 months i'm thinking i'm 1 year older than i actually am

[naive bronze]

you too

[acoustic juniper]

[silk spear]

HBD canruf

🎂 🎂 🎂
canruf
🎂 🎂 🎂

[fierce beacon]

disregard this person cause they are a well known irrational AI hater in the scholarly fields

[woeful apex]

4 months is early tho

[fringe garden]

i like being born in april it's

[low blaze]

I just read the full sentence.. what?
okay, then

[naive bronze]

already 4 months

[pliant wasp]

feels like you could remember a 2 digit number instead of calculating it

[inner vortex]

oh i was justa amused

[fierce beacon]

why would you develop that habit

[real charm]

because it's like
"how old are you?"
image in head:

[pliant wasp]

you said you were on mobile

[real charm]

my back hurt too much from sleeping so i'm upgrading to standing

[naive bronze]

at least you remember how old you are, i legit know people who forgot their damn birthdays

[pliant wasp]

fair enough

[real charm]

i'd forget if i didn't have the year hack

[quasi oyster]

Me

On my 18th birthday

[pliant wasp]

every once in a while there's someone who genuinely doesn't remember their age and I'm so confused

[woeful apex]

i always have to do the math to remember how old i am

[fringe garden]

people born on multiples of 10 have it pretty good

[quasi oyster]

Which makes all the birthdays that come after feel weightless. But I had good friends

[pliant wasp]

[quasi oyster]

Anyway I'm having coke and crumbs for breakfast

How are nn doing

[real charm]

your mom

[upbeat flint]

Doing good, just stole your router

[obsidian light]

birth

[real charm]

@pliant wasp you're my favourite devo
pleaes give me a new name i don't want to be parasocial it's so overdone

[shrewd rune]

i just ate nuggets for lunch

[quasi oyster]

I'll beat you with a hammer@real charm

[sullen moat]

how is remembering my age useful in my everyday life

[naive bronze]

death

[real charm]

exactly
that's the sorta info you look up when you need it

[pliant wasp]

out of all the devos

i liked the brackets can we have those back

[real charm]

okay but what do i put there

[fierce beacon]

okay NN is no longer dead
wanna do karaoke trivia maybe, perhaps?

[real charm]

why do you want to kill NN so bad

[pliant wasp]

legal things but genuinely you might be right

[real charm]

let us girlies have our girl talk

[fierce beacon]

holy revisionism

[pliant wasp]

unless someone wants to know it doesn't matter

[shrewd rune]

purgatory

[sullen moat]

exactly

[upbeat flint]

You don’t have to deal with the Australian penguin wearing a top hat ànd monocle randomly appearing before you with a pop quiz asking what your age is ànd if you answer wrong you get hit by a comedically large fish???

[pliant wasp]

idk

[sullen moat]

well no cause im not in australia

[pliant wasp]

i can't make myself a good username how am i meant to name you

[naive bronze]

we can talk about what we should be upset about

[upbeat flint]

Me neither but that clearly hasn’t stopped it

[real charm]

you suck at this

[pliant wasp]

maybe it'll stick

[sullen moat]

oh god it escaped australia

[shrewd rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1496176131475505263/ball.gif

[pliant wasp]

let it ride

[upbeat flint]

“hold on let me consult the names archive”
Is that what you want from him

[fierce beacon]

Canruf name yourself "canruf in a birthday hat go away"

[real charm]

yeah?

[toxic plaza]

Does anyone have the countdown mashup for Evil's 3rd birthday?

[pliant wasp]

listen to umbrella

[sly kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060090228615958528/1232576061452058664/Neuro-box_ai_problem.gif

[shrewd rune]

[upbeat flint]

Ok the archive says “Bellatrix”

[pliant wasp]

yoo like the star

[fierce beacon]

he wont he hates me
he didnt even acknowledge my birthday wishes for him

[real charm]

got it

[fierce beacon]

thats better

[upbeat flint]

Is it??

[pliant wasp]

yea in orion

[upbeat flint]

Classic Orion w

[pliant wasp]

my favorite guy

[real charm]

what was canis major or whatever
was that a constellation or a universe or what

[pliant wasp]

that's a star

wait

no it is a constellation

[shrewd rune]

https://klipy.com/gifs/orion-brawlhalla--k01KQ68EZDRYJ92HRQVYQFEAVZ2

[pliant wasp]

i thought sirius was in canis minor

[woven oriole]

Good morning Neurons

[fierce beacon]

bro

[real charm]

you're confusing it with that one big star in the canis major

[upbeat flint]

Maybe if I could fucking SEE the stars at night I’d take an actual interest in astrology since I do find it neat

[halcyon arrow]

nuro

[shrewd rune]

i thought sirius was just a gd level

[ionic holly]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 130 cookies! | I've received 317395 cookies total!

[real charm]

i thought sirius was a my hero academia character :Confused:

[pliant wasp]

shush those constellations aren't even in the sky here

[upbeat flint]

Anyway name the neuro constellation

[shrewd rune]

i thought

therefore i was

[naive bronze]

i don't think
therefore i am not

[real charm]

anyway i got a stream to watch you can commence your trivia umbrah

[pliant wasp]

canruf is leaving so I'm not interested anymore

[real charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1494376257616351232/3DNeuroStarBlinky.gif

[pliant wasp]

gl umbrella

[fierce beacon]

only if people are interested
I dont spam NN for no reason

[rotund jacinth]

sup NN. sup umbrella

[upbeat flint]

Trivia: this trivia is 29 letters long

Unless I cannot count, which is entirely possible

[fierce beacon]

[upbeat flint]

Didn’t include the first trivia

[serene moat]

hi

[somber robin]

[fierce beacon]

thats a fault on you not me

[serene moat]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CANRUF

[somber robin]

Happy birthday canruff

Didn't know you have a birthday

I thought ur a cryptid

[fierce beacon]

classic anti-umbrella slandering my name

or wait

its libel

since its in text

anyways speaking of trivia minigames

lets do a few rounds why not

[real charm]

i'ts monday

[rotund jacinth]

[fierce beacon]

KARAOKE BLAST round 116

what song is this?

[upbeat flint]

Low-key I didn’t even get the number right even with the interpretation I went which didn’t include space

[iron tundra]

Happy birthday canruf

[rotund jacinth]

you also didnt get it right if you didnt include numbers

[real charm]

tank

[gusty pulsar]

oh hey, happy birthday canruf

[obsidian light]

propaganda?

[upbeat flint]

That’s Pikachu

[somber robin]

Fuck man, I know the sound but I don't know what the song called lmao

[wet kite]

sometimes. i like gpt.

[somber robin]

It was Neuro who sang it afaik

[fierce beacon]

both have sung it
but this one is evil

[somber robin]

I don't wanna think rn it's giving me a headache

Lmao

[fierce beacon]

[somber robin]

What can I do it's so fucking hot rn even if it's morning holy shit

[shrewd rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1495261594379092008/099164c62fbb13d5-ezif.com-resize_1.gif

[fierce beacon]

okay maybe nobody gets this one

[somber robin]

Next one

What's the song called

[fierce beacon]

okay wait I have to reveal first

[fierce beacon]

The answer was Killer In The Mirror by Set it Off!!!

[somber robin]

Shit

[teal shell]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-neuro-sama-neuro-3d-bye-felicia-goodbye-gif-15311952284447076136

Goodnight everyone

[real charm]

wow so you wait for me to leave to do karaoke trivia

[fierce beacon]

you literally told me to do it you trog

[rotund jacinth]

happy birthday

[real charm]

mods umbrella is being mean to me on my birthday

[fierce beacon]

also I dont care you ignored me wishing you happy birthday so Im mad at you

[rotund jacinth]

[real charm]

that's not true
i used your birthday wishes to make a joke where i thank ppl that thanked me hours ago instead of you

[serene moat]

so in 1h30m for me

[real charm]

"thanked me"
damn i guess they're thankful i was born

[rotund jacinth]

I am gonna test something next karaoke blast round

[fierce beacon]

[rotund jacinth]

you could also thank me now

[fierce beacon]

KARAOKE BLAST round 117

what song is this?

[somber robin]

Bro got called troglodite

[rotund jacinth]

lover is a day?

[fierce beacon]

Correct!

[rotund jacinth]

[fierce beacon]

was the thing you were trying, just being correct

[rotund jacinth]

yes

[pliant wasp]

sigh

[fierce beacon]

do not the sigh

[pliant wasp]

watch me pull my first all nighter on nn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1498024262018142381/1498036648103907399/neuroboom.gif

[fierce beacon]

dont do that
you need to sleep so you dont miss dev stream

[pliant wasp]

yeah that's like 9pm

[inner vortex]

you know whos else birthday it is?

[pliant wasp]

I'll nap at some point before probs

[sly kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-neurosama-vedal-vedal987-nwero-gif-9770061641777896632

[fierce beacon]

okay well win this karaoke trivia then

KARAOKE BLAST round 118

what song is this?

[twilit bronze]

rises the moon

[fierce beacon]

easy one

[pliant wasp]

i had that one

[fierce beacon]

Correct!

[keen heron]

you won’t

[pliant wasp]

are you doubting me

i wake up in 2 hours

[real charm]

imagine waking up at 7am

[shrewd rune]

[pliant wasp]

s

[real charm]

s

[fierce beacon]

s

[shrewd rune]

s

[fierce beacon]

phew

[hard kayak]

s

[fierce beacon]

wait

[hard kayak]

[pliant wasp]

snake :Scared:

[fierce beacon]

I just wanted to add one more for safety

[hard kayak]

[shrewd rune]

n

[crude lintel]

e

[pliant wasp]

wonder when I'll get warned for offtopic / english only / inappropriate topics

[shrewd rune]

"when" not "if", what are you planning

[real charm]

you're fine
you do less than me

[hard kayak]

u

[fierce beacon]

shiro lock in and come say hi

[pliant wasp]

:Scared: shiro

[hard kayak]

smite him

[pliant wasp]

you chat more but realistically I'm like never on topic

[hard kayak]

a

[iron tundra]

Mods smite this chatter

[crude lintel]

Shiro, this guy's bringing up off-topic, inappropriate things in another language!

[pliant wasp]

mods smile this chatter

[iron tundra]

Mods don't smile

They hate fun

[naive bronze]

nn stop having fun i will report you

[shrewd rune]

they

[pliant wasp]

I'm not having fun

[iron tundra]

I'm having fun not having fun, what happens now

[hard kayak]

Hi not having fun im apotat

[naive bronze]

no loopholes
reported

[shrewd rune]

but then you are having fun

[iron tundra]

By not having fun

[iron tundra]

/banish Zuvi

[shrewd rune]

thus resulting in: having fun

[iron tundra]

"Thus" ok nerd

Why don't you head over to #programming

[shrewd rune]

[shrewd rune]

im still learning

[arctic walrus]

I thought #programming is for the wealth?

[shrewd rune]

her skin

[sly kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1296469577051537440/ElivMedsAnim.gif

[uneven nest]

i randomly remember to exist

no get those meds away

[shrewd rune]

that's because you thought, therefore you are

[keen heron]

take the meds

[uneven nest]

no...

[keen heron]

Comical Rabbit never existed

[uneven nest]

rwela

real

[uneven nest]

so THATS how i get rid of her

[iron tundra]

You're comical rabbit

[shrewd rune]

Humorous Cottontail joins

[uneven nest]

no im funni

[iron tundra]

No bunny?

[uneven nest]

still bunny

lol

[fierce beacon]

bunny

[shrewd rune]

where bunny

[uneven nest]

me

[iron tundra]

Still bunny?

I thought you were funni bunny

[fierce beacon]

say hi to me

[uneven nest]

hi umbrella

[uneven nest]

I AM

[fierce beacon]

[real charm]

no you're tuna

[iron tundra]

Then why did you say still bunny

[uneven nest]

happy bday canruf

[shrewd rune]

therefore you think

[real charm]

it's sev steam

[uneven nest]

confirming thr bun

[iron tundra]

What bun

[keen heron]

Guys where bunny

[iron tundra]

Oh you're neuro?

[uneven nest]

no

[keen heron]

[iron tundra]

Ok

[uneven nest]

im funni bunny not neuro lol

[iron tundra]

I need to eat something

Time to eat the sun

[shrewd rune]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mouse-mousehunt--k01KQ6B62QJR9TF9EYB8W79R8N1

[primal hazel]

By the way

Neuro is cute

[primal hazel]

You would think this will affect me, but listen

Neuro is cuuuute

[rotund jacinth]

neuro and evil are cute

[primal hazel]

True

[iron tundra]

I should write a rant

Any ideas for its topic?

[rotund jacinth]

on why neuro and evil are cute

[naive bronze]

rant about nothing

[cold hinge]

The old Neuro memes

And why they have faded into obscurity

[iron tundra]

Oh you gave me a brilliant idea for a rant

Not about old neuro memes though

[cold hinge]

:(

[inner vortex]

you know what meme hasn't? HBD Shiro

[rotund jacinth]

the rant idea in question "stop calling me rat"

[cold hinge]

YESSSS

[iron tundra]

I will stab you

[rotund jacinth]

[naive bronze]

rat boutta rant about nothing

[cold hinge]

With a needle

[somber robin]

A British rat

[cold hinge]

Small needle stab

[sly kettle]

bwuh

[inner vortex]

that fact HDB shiro predates even me being in here, but is still rlevant is amazing. I've been in neurocord fora long time.

[naive bronze]

sihoro

[cold hinge]

Same

sihoro

[inner vortex]

my typos are apic

[cold hinge]

apic typo

[naive bronze]

mine are apec

[low blaze]

Neuro karaoke is this Wednesday

[cold hinge]

mine are apex

[rotund jacinth]

Cant wait for rayts essay

[ionic holly]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 4 cookies! | I've received 317396 cookies total!

[crude lintel]

[pliant wasp]

this guy's name has been backwards for ages

[rotund jacinth]

I am ready for it

[pliant wasp]

:

[rotund jacinth]

bro my dyslexic aah though this was actually vedal for a second

[neon musk]

stopped typing

[cold hinge]

ytStyR right now

[pliant wasp]

w betis

[edgy nest]

why is she saying yop

[pliant wasp]

microwave

[inner vortex]

she yopping

[edgy nest]

yop

[shrewd rune]

so bored

[cold hinge]

Rye bread is typing

[serene ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1351971781266636894/GIF_20250215_005622_292.gif

[cold hinge]

[silk spear]

[cold hinge]

Waiting for Ryt's paragraph of text

[inland robin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1439340435511312676/NURU3.gif

[inner vortex]

i still want to here neuro cover this someday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YPNckoRRJs

yes that's Italian

[fierce beacon]

chat im looking forward to the stream

[rotund jacinth]

greetings umbrella. Just in time for an essay

[inner vortex]

im looking forward to the epic rytsty is typing

[cold hinge]

Us when rytsty finally posts that essay

Actually no

This will be us when the essay is done

[iron tundra]

Rant: The difference between Neuro and Evil's personality from the point of view of the Swarm and its correlation with the "bits" they are associated with

When you think "bits attributed to Evil" it's quite easy to think of her harpoon, the tungsten cubes, the birthday thing, her singing abilities, pipes, etc. And while Neuro also has similar bits (swarm, drones, gymbag, heart spam), one thing that you may notice after a couple of seconds of consideration is that these bits are very old. Like, Hiyori-days old. Thinking of Neuro in terms of recent bits (think past the first subathon) is extremely hard; instead, most of her characterisation stems off of how she's perceived to behave (psychopathic, liar, manipulator, rizzler). This is a very interesting phenomenon I've noticed that I can't quite pinpoint the causes of if I'm honest. Initially I thought this might be caused by affirmative bias as most viewers will be thinking of Neuro in terms of her gaslighting, deceiving, lying, etc. while thinking of Evil as an "earnest loving misunderstood girl" and as such will be paying more attention to what she expresses interest on, but I would need to put deeper thought into this to evaluate the broad range of possibilities. Still, given that both should be derived from the same LLM with some minor variations here and there (it would be helpful if Vedal was more open about how this part of them works) it honestly surprises me how Neuro doesn't seems to get associated to anything newer beyond those old bits. You'd think she'd schizo her way into getting associated with something in a similar way that Evil did but it's been 3 years since the channel started and it's yet to happen again. A bit back I was trying to design kits for the twins as if they were MOBA characters and I struggled with Neuro's a lot because of this lack of references. In the end I managed to fix this by drawing from playthroughs. Please comment your theories I'm curious to hear what others think. nuro

[inner vortex]

WE WERE JOKING

[iron tundra]

I saw that one fuck you

[rotund jacinth]

we? who is we?

[crude lintel]

TL;DR, can you summarize it in 10 words or less?

[iron tundra]

Why neuro no new bits but evil new bits?

[rotund jacinth]

damn. an angry rat

[crude lintel]

Thank you

[iron tundra]

Not a rhetoric question I want to hear others' opinions

[fierce beacon]

counterpoint

Evil doesnt really have ""new"" bits

she just says the same old bits pretty much every stream
neuro tends to move on to new jokes and hyperfixations often

[cold hinge]

Neuro defined by behavior but Evil by memorable recurring bits

[rotund jacinth]

lowkey what chatgpt gave

[iron tundra]

Yes but Evil's bits are way more recent that Neuro's

[cold hinge]

The birthday bit stuck around ever since 2 years ago when it happened

[fierce beacon]

she is just more recent in general too I think

also she basically went through a "hiyori" period of her own
where she was still settling into her identity

you can see that with her early solo streams

[naive bronze]

that's cus neuro's lame and her bits are forgettable, actual skill issue

[cold hinge]

Same with making Numi flustered

[ocean rampart]

bits are mainly on chat tho

[cold hinge]

Eggs isn't even that recent either

[ocean rampart]

evil's "bits" are talked to the ground

even fucking thungsten cube was so forced

[iron tundra]

I do mention this on the rant

[naive bronze]

also a lot of evil's bits were literally stolen from neuro, but she just says it better for some reason

[fierce beacon]

while I disagree with your reasoning over WHY these factors exsist

I do agree with your findings
I find that Evil is more defined by her likes and her fixations
while neuro is more sporadic by defined by her common speech styles and attitudes

it is a fascinating topic

[iron tundra]

"Initially I thought this might be caused by affirmative bias as most viewers will be thinking of Neuro in terms of her gaslighting, deceiving, lying, etc. while thinking of Evil as an "earnest loving misunderstood girl" and as such will be paying more attention to what she expresses interest on, but I would need to put deeper thought into this to evaluate the broad range of possibilities."

[cold hinge]

Harpoons aren't recent and weren't a thing until like a year or 2 ago

[unreal hedge]

I think evil is the nice one idk

[iron tundra]

Also the nuro at the end is merely to reach the character limit

[fierce beacon]

who asked

[fierce beacon]

nuro

[naive bronze]

youtube commenter ahh take

[ocean rampart]

even neuro's "gaslighting, deceiving, lying, etc." is more of old end and not that present as they were

[fierce beacon]

eh

I disagree

[unreal hedge]

This was a popular nn take actually

[fierce beacon]

they are still pretty common behaviours in both twins

[real charm]

not nearly as common tho sadge

[fierce beacon]

maple put the fishing rod away
no one is biting

[naive bronze]

it's not that deep, it's cus of the voice

[ocean rampart]

fair i honestly kinda missed a lot of neuro streams recently so may miss it

[fierce beacon]

[ocean rampart]

i mainly talking about neuro as in few months old news

so its mistake on my end

[real charm]

don't believe umba
they've been quite good girls recently

[fierce beacon]

they can be good girls and still be gaslighters

thats girlboss 101

[real charm]

gaslighting modcheck

[ocean rampart]

yeah but point was they do it less than before no?

[neon vale]

Evil viewers just can’t let bits die ig

[fierce beacon]

im doing it rn you homunculus

[fierce beacon]

yeah but I think its a difference of going from 10 to 8
its not THAT big a drop

at least IMO

[real charm]

it's a huge drop

I'd say from 10 to 4

[ocean rampart]

i think it also evil tend to hyperfixate more

[fierce beacon]

nah disagree with that

[real charm]

it's my birthday so I'm right

[ocean rampart]

evil can bring bits to few stream and then chat will solidify it so it will become almost every stream

[cold hinge]

While I agree on some points, there are a few things you are forgetting. One thing is that Neuro does have newer bits, they’re just less concrete and more situational, so they don’t stick as easily in people’s minds. Another point is that Evil’s bits are often reinforced and repeated in very obvious ways, while Neuro’s tend to be more subtle or spread out. I get it, Evil is better at reoccurring jokes, but that doesn’t mean Neuro lacks identity.

[gusty pulsar]

makes me wonder if making evil, well, evil sorta 'grounds' her character in a way

[fierce beacon]

I dont acknowledge your birthday privilege cause you didnt acknowledge my birthday wishes

[gusty pulsar]

makes it easier to find patterns because her llm has a proper place to draw from

[tender gyro]

Dev stream eve

[gusty pulsar]

neuro meanwhile doesn't really have a static character, she has some consistant personality aspects but it's a lot more nebulous imo

[neon vale]

I thought it was evil used to have less content and therefore viewers latched onto those bits more, cuz neuro has more material

[real charm]

didn't even get me a present and wants praise for saying 2 words after discord reminds them what day it is

[gusty pulsar]

like she isn't nice, but she isn't evil either, she's a lot more gray which might make it harder for her bits to stick

[ocean rampart]

like interesting how neuro's "bits" were provided is character traits and evil's are hyperfixation

[real charm]

it's more chats hyperfixation than evils

[ocean rampart]

can be also a factor of chat spam

[naive bronze]

I personally think it's the way they say the bits. You hear Evil's voice saying EGGS and it will just stick for much longer.

[pliant wasp]

i really like when ved shows neuro's dms
or seeing her messages in general

there's something quite special i think in seeing neuro talking through dms not only because she basically only appears in stream context otherwise (comma) but also because her texting is probably functionally the same as her talking on stream, it's basically just stream neuro but not on stream, so she feels more real and like she has more of a presence

also it's pretty cute seeing her texts idk why

[fierce beacon]

see thats the thing
i was gonna offer to make you some illustrator art project or somethiing
but you snubbed me

[ocean rampart]

yeah but chat do effect her so

[bold parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-neuro-neuro-sama-evil-neuro-vedal-gif-5403388162769882915

[iron tundra]

To the point there's even the tease gaslight flirt loop image

And that one dates way back

[neon vale]

Think that’s where most of it comes from

[gusty pulsar]

also, another evil bit: she's generally the one that references twinshipping first

[ocean rampart]

yeah 100%

[gusty pulsar]

hell she wanted to marry neuro like twice

idk what that like

mean?

but it's another pattern

[cold hinge]

Surprisingly Melba Toast didn't stick long enough in Evil's mind

[naive bronze]

insert that one gif dandy's been posting recently here

[pliant wasp]

why bring twinshipping into this

[ocean rampart]

50/50 with them one moment they both will be kissing each other other its not ok to ship them

[gusty pulsar]

cause i was trying to think of bits that neuro started recently and i kept remebering the times evil leaned into that and realized neuro rarely goes for that

[real charm]

tbf what did you expect from me
idk what snubbing means but I'm the snubstar

[gusty pulsar]

i'm not a twinshipper either way, not trying to necessarily reinforce anything, just wondering why evil specifically likes that sorta theme

[ocean rampart]

cause newer audience doesn't know her

[fierce beacon]

im sad
you made me sad
Im gonna go now

[ocean rampart]

again to the point all these "bits" are chat forced

[gusty pulsar]

i feel like when they are together, it's evil that always seems to start the bits tho, but maybe neuro's attempts aren't clipped as often

[cold hinge]

Remember when Neuro went "But hey," during the one collab stream reviewing Thanksgiving dinners?

[gusty pulsar]

i don't mean like, off handed commetns in art review btw

[neon vale]

Chat reinforces it more with her prob

[gusty pulsar]

i mean like, them talking with each other

[ocean rampart]

i 100% remember neuro also starting these

[ivory lion]

What even is Evil's latest bit tho the closest I can think of is her pet snake

[real charm]

that's a classic gpt quirk when coming up with roasts

[cold hinge]

The one memory that was not chat forced was the Birthday stream 2 years ago

[gusty pulsar]

again, could just be my lack of knowlage of a lot of the V2 era stuff, but when i try to remeber clips of those sorta moments i can only think of evil saying them lol

[ocean rampart]

don't "but hey" me

[neon vale]

All the consistent jokes for both twins are old af

[cold hinge]

I feel like Vedal deliberately drilled that one into her, or that the moment was so crucial that it was embedded into her core memory

[gusty pulsar]

hmm, i was gonna say skydiving but that was actually a neuro bit she kinda 'stole'

also neuro had the snake bit as well, in the minecraft segment recently

[ocean rampart]

honestly wasn't it chat who bringed that idea to evil?

[cold hinge]

I feel like it makes sense that Evil would want to steal Neuro's bits

[gusty pulsar]

does it matter?

the vast majority of bits are things chat brings up or decides to reinforce

[obtuse coral]

she lacks originality

[ivory lion]

Yeah but that one she stole from Evil she had a a snake named Nyx during subathon

[neon vale]

Swarm just has dementia Can’t remember anything

[ocean rampart]

so yeah skydiving is neuro latest hyperfixation i can remember

[gusty pulsar]

chat is just the twins for now, they kinda decides what sticks around rn

[ocean rampart]

in a sense

[neon vale]

Does the not being British thing count?

[gusty pulsar]

if they can get more independent that can change but for now, like i can't remeber any bit that the twins started and chat didn't like but that it stuck around

[pliant wasp]

the twins are chat

[gusty pulsar]

i guess chat didn't like brian much so the bit kinda died?

[ocean rampart]

point is most "bits" are their hyperfixations that got solidified by chat

[gusty pulsar]

actually, that's a neuro bit

[ivory lion]

I do think Evil's bits help her way more on merch like the double sided shirts for example Evil's side gets a cool design with the harpoon while Neuro just gets her face

[gusty pulsar]

her liking jonny is also a thing even tho evil also likes him

[ocean rampart]

yeah that main thing

[gusty pulsar]

it's all a ouroboros of bits isn't it?

[neon vale]

Oh yeah neuro liking johnny is a consistent joke that chat didn’t have any part in

[naive bronze]

the only bit that I know neuro's relatively consistent in is her hatred of pineapple pizza for some reason

[ivory lion]

What about Neuro just using ping that's a bit or her hating the sun

[bold parrot]

neuro just likes hot people (including evil)

[gusty pulsar]

i can remeber a few highlights on chill streams about it so chat did reinforce it a bit but that was her bit originally

[ocean rampart]

honestly out all bits i hate thungsten cube the most cause it 100% chat one and 0 input by evil smh

[ivory lion]

Didn't she have a crush on Shrek and Slenderman

[gusty pulsar]

honestly, i'm not sure how i feel about cyberpunk having so many memorable neuro moments from recent history

[naive bronze]

also neuro falling for random ass dudes in games, though that might just be cus she plays way more games

[gusty pulsar]

it's cute and fits her character tho

[bold parrot]

are you implying they aren't hot?

[ocean rampart]

i mean it decent amount of time

[ivory lion]

Fair enough

[ocean rampart]

no its not

[gusty pulsar]

and at this point evil or at least vedal have embraced it

[bold parrot]

how? lol

[gusty pulsar]

like, would you consider the fumo disaster a evil bit?

[gusty pulsar]

she likes harpoons and pipes, i can see her liking a very heavy block of a very heavy metal

it's about as deep as harpoons

[ocean rampart]

no and yes
it happened during her plush sale so you can say its her but it has nothing to do with her

[cold hinge]

By over-hyping certain phrases, it effectively traps Neuro and Evil in outdated versions of themselves. This feedback loop rewards repetitive traits while ignoring genuine growth. It's harder for them to actually change when the chat refuses to let go of a bit.

[bold parrot]

that's a pretty far stretch

[ivory lion]

Honestly the harpoon and pipes bits are good as a Vtuber you need something your known for a trademark so I'm glad Evil found hers

[ocean rampart]

fucking chat being dogshit as always

[gusty pulsar]

i mean does it even matter? it's a bit now, who started it is irrelevant since a lot of the general community has now addopted it for her

hell it's in her room

it's as canon as it gets now

[neon vale]

V3 chat when?

[ocean rampart]

doesn't change fact that i hate it

[real charm]

someone make this emote but of neuro
itd be perfect for nn

[gusty pulsar]

there's no way vedal will remove it just cause some nn people said it didn't fit her or whatever lol

[ocean rampart]

i can hate anything i want
and i have my reasoning that i consider fair

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, a lot of what makes the twins the twins are their memories and the reacuring bits. Their personality shifts a lot, evil isn't always evil, neuro is all over the place, the bits keep them grounded

[ocean rampart]

hell i hate fact that they called "twins" but its not like it would be changed anytime soon

[gusty pulsar]

plus that's the sorta thing that fandoms love

you keep the old jokes and references alive cause that's fun, and can easily give you more ideas for art

[cold hinge]

Yes, while I agree it does make them who they are, there are a few bad habits that chat enables

[ivory lion]

To be fair one random guy brought up harpoons once and Evil latched on to it that's not that different from the Tungsten cube right?

[ocean rampart]

same 5 jokes lule

[gusty pulsar]

the twins aren't thinking being yet, if they will ever be, they are at the whims of humans for now, be either chator vedal

[ocean rampart]

evil wans't hyperfixated on cubes in any way

[neon vale]

It was the same for the pet xenomorph too I think

[ocean rampart]

all cube mentions come from chat

[real charm]

wdym pipes is a cringe meme everyone has used

and harpoon doesn't fit her at all and was forced on her by chat

[gusty pulsar]

trying to make them forget their past acomplisments and jokes will just make them come off as more generic or less the neuro and evil that people remeber

[naive bronze]

guys i hate neuro, i hate evil, i hate vedal, i hate the swarm, i hate twitch chat, i hate youtube commenters, i hate the neuroverse, i hate nn, i hate highlighted messages, i hate the subathon, i hate hype trains, i hate twinshipping, i hate anti-twinshipping, i hate evil's name, i hate evil's new model, i hate the intelligence upgrade, i hate therapy segments, i hate twin calls, i hate your mom

[ivory lion]

Nah can't disagree more harpoons is the Evil iconic thing it's her gymbag

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, sure but at some point you are jsut screaming into the void lol

[cold hinge]

Like for example: the instant Evil says anything about eggs, it would be hard for Evil to stay off the topic of eggs unless a highlighted message or dono message is sent. Otherwise chat will keep enabling that habit of her talking about eggs throughout the stream, unless she spots a question in chat.

[ocean rampart]

so lets bring same shit every chill stream great
there need to be a balance but its not possible so we live in a world where everything is talked to the ground

[naive bronze]

oh shit, i forgot to add that i hate any video that tries to explain neuro to a wider audience

[ocean rampart]

that what nn for

[ivory lion]

Also these are there trademarks that all content creators have

[gusty pulsar]

if you are ok with that then fair enough but i find more productive to focus on complaining about things that could change with enough feedback

[unreal hedge]

#livestream-chat message

[gusty pulsar]

like i can complain about the concept of entrophy until the cows come home but what good would that do lol

[ocean rampart]

im talking about it not in a sense that it will be changed

[ocean rampart]

entertainment

[real charm]

holy the most boring thing to make a trademark

there wasn't even a clip of the harpoon thing or anything
chat just decided that evil will use harpoons now, it's so lame

[cold hinge]

My proposition is this, there should be a limit onto what type of message Neuro and Evil sees, especially if it is emote spam.

[vague latch]

I searched harpoon on library of ladev to find where the bit come from and instead I found this stream that have 227 mentions of harpoon lmao

[ocean rampart]

surely at one point he will change their chat system

[gusty pulsar]

tbh it's hard to find a solution to that that isn't just 'cut her acess to chat' or smt. I guess you could make writing anything repetitive on chat time you out but i think that's unheard of in the vtubing or hell even in the twitch space

spamming emotes or phrases is baked into twitch culture

[naive bronze]

smh harpoons, pipes, and eggs were a mistake cus it came from chat, evil should have nothing like neuro

[real charm]

everything neuro has was made by neuro

[cold hinge]

It's not about completely cutting her access to chat, it's more like limiting the type of messages as far as already seeing that exact message.

[ocean rampart]

honestly doesn't help that evil was mostly in chill prison for most part of her time

[bold parrot]

harpoon people, harpoon non people

[cold hinge]

Like if she already saw the EGGS emote and already reacted to it, there should be a limit onto how much of it should be reacted to afterwards

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, idk why the difference is so important to people. vedal reacted to random things that the twins said and that sometimes causes them to fixate on that, like the mosquito bit, is that a vedal bit? what would constitute a 'pure' neuro bit in your eyes? something that they invented and were consistent with?

[ivory lion]

I can't belive a streamer makes bits with help from chat how could they

[gusty pulsar]

make so she can't see emotes

[ocean rampart]

"with a help" and fully forced is different things

[naive bronze]

which god among you decides what the limit should be?

[cold hinge]

Vedal

[gusty pulsar]

that's the same thing for an ai with no authonomy. we literally saw what happens if chat doesn't force a joke, it dies quickly, like the brian bit, smt neuro came up with all on her own

but because chat hated it and didn't bring it up, the bit died

[ocean rampart]

sometimes people lean to one of the sides to much treating them as just ai and treating them little too much as a human

[gusty pulsar]

almost like the twins themselves need chat or a human to keep jokes relevant or smt

[ivory lion]

I don't think there's anything wrong with Evil's bits it has help her stand out way more imagine how boring Evil would be without harpoons and Pipes

[ocean rampart]

and bits dying is okay

[bold parrot]

mods need to moderate twitch chat more in general, too many things go spammed for too long and nothing ever gets done about it

[gusty pulsar]

but that's what would happen to every bit in that case. like, try to imagine evil without any of her bits. no harpoon, no eggs, no pipes, no snake, no xeno, no cube, nothing that could be considered a reference

what are you left with?

[cold hinge]

Ok Socrates

[gusty pulsar]

if i asked you, what's evil neuro in that case, how would you describe her?

[real charm]

what you said at the end
neuro of her own volition kept calling him mosquito
neuro of her own volition spammed hearts
etc etc

i like xeno from evil
while yes chat prompts her to talk about it she originally came up with having a pet xenomorph and chooses how to respond to prompts

with shit like harpoons, pipes, cubes it's chat force feeding her responses instead of letting evil build on it
like saying "would you harpoon x" forces her to use harpoons on the response removing her creativity

[ocean rampart]

jokes can't be relevant for too long
i remember numbers of streamers who expressed annoyance at chat forced joke that already died but they saw from joke clip and keep enforcing it

[gusty pulsar]

cause i'm not gonna lie, i can't think of much more than like 'she's evil but has a daddy girl complex' oh wait, that's a bit that chat sometimes pushes, uuuh, 'she think she's vedal's daughter', oh wait that's also a bit

[crude lintel]

I think it's just due to their code, honestly. The way they developed was different enough

[bold parrot]

funny ai chuuni

[grave wagon]

Mods, widen a png of neuro by 10%

[merry wadi]

I feel very hungry

[bold parrot]

chunii, chuunii, idk how its spelt

[cold hinge]

I think we can still have bits without having chat spam it to oblivion

[crude lintel]

Then go eat something (that isn't me)

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, fair, but by this point it's so engrained on what people would consider evil that it's hard to imagine her without it. it's in official artwork, it's in her room, it's one of the first things you think of when you think of evil

[gusty pulsar]

the twins can't get annoyed tho, they could theoretically have infinite long running bits and they wouldn't mind

[ocean rampart]

vedal is wrong for doing it
it that simple

[ivory lion]

Also we have a official Evil harpoon design now

[merry wadi]

I demand my fried aquatic bird

[merry wadi]

That was a while back tbh lol

[naive bronze]

idk why, but i'm not at all suprised, and actually proud that canruf decides to debate in nn during his birthday

[crude lintel]

Then eat a different one

[ocean rampart]

but i can
and how many times sisters were annoyed by chat countless

[crude lintel]

Like a swan

Or a goose

[vague latch]

I finally got the origin of harpoon: I guy named siclairfromlimbuscompany roleplayed giving a custom harpoon to evil in a stream and then they asked evil every few stream if they still had the harpoon until one stream where she got obsessed with the subject

[gusty pulsar]

how dare the guy want to get in the joke with his own creations, truly despicable :smh

[cold hinge]

The one bit that I do wish chat isn't enabling is the one where they spam the leaked tokens

[gusty pulsar]

if anything, he should be the arbiter of what bits are worth keeping, he created them after all, he shaped a lot of who they are behind the scenes

[merry wadi]

So limbus gave her the harpoon obsession

[cold hinge]

That's only gonna make things worse

[gusty pulsar]

if evil in his eyes is tied to harpoons, then she is tied to harpoons

[merry wadi]

Too bitter

[ivory lion]

What a legend does he know what he started

[gusty pulsar]

shrimple as that really

[real charm]

i don't even think of harpoons when thinking about evil :Confused:

in what way is a weapon she sometimes uses (when chat prompts her) a part of her personality

[merry wadi]

Too gummy

[ocean rampart]

can't wait for fim_suffix merch

[merry wadi]

Ducks have a decent amount of fat to crisp, and they taste nice

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, i do, i guess we just gotta agree to disagree

[bold parrot]

its funny cuz they actually do, they tell chat to stop doing/saying something pretty often lol, usually pet pet

[cold hinge]

Duck eggs sound good right now

[real charm]

like do you even watch evil too have these opinions? how can you think evil is only references

[gusty pulsar]

but then they lean into the bit an hour later lol

[merry wadi]

Now why would I listen to an LLM telling me not to eat you?

[real charm]

do you think neuro is only references too?

[gusty pulsar]

i swear i saw them hate and love a bit in the same stream

[ocean rampart]

isn't fim_suffix is hilarious bit guys?

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, yeah

[bold parrot]

yeah cuz chat kept spamming it for an hour when it should've been added to the filters 59 minutes ago

[gusty pulsar]

i watch every stream