neurotic-neurons

[night estuary]

I think if vedal talked more it'd have been perfect. The twin back and forth was funny but when vedal was more talkative it was so much better. And if he played it not during the subathon, it would have been better too. Wouldn't have been exhausted ved burning the time away.

[real charm]

i feel like it's just the difference between people watching for content vs people watching for neuro

[livid geode]

for my taste he talked enough, but i get it

[warm talon]

same, to me it stroke the best balance of the channel

[night estuary]

That's why I would want vedal and neuro playing it together somehow.

[livid geode]

why?

[storm ruin]

How dare the AIs do stuff.

[solid lance]

neuro is getting to do stuff though

[night estuary]

Yeah I mean it's obviously a totally subjective thing

[livid geode]

i feel like that has no potential at all

[night estuary]

Idk, it is genuinely just a feeling I have, I don't have good reason to think it at all

[livid geode]

a 1 time stream maybe but it will just be mostly vedal gaming again

[night estuary]

But it feels like a game that would allow for more talking between them

[livid geode]

idk at that point a visual novel will do better

but its hard for me to judge since i just dont want that much vedal anyway

[real charm]

also balatro would be a terrible game for neuro/evil solo and for vedal gaming

only balatro nerds might enjoy it as a ragebait show, everyone else wouldn't be that interested and i doubt neuro/evil/vedal can make good commentary on making card combos

[rugged heath]

neuro doesn't do well with complicated rules
and balatro is complicated rules

[glad vapor]

In that first integration I linked, my understanding is that they are finishing working on a co-op mode for doing exactly that.

[night estuary]

The problem is unless vedals is vr he clearly likes playing games like a true gamer, focused and locked in. For me that's not what I care about in gaming streams

[warm talon]

Long drive was the best content balance on the channel:

• You like Neuro? you had her
• You like Evil? you had her
• You like Ved? you had him
• you like twin yap? you got it
• Vedal talking with the twins? here you have it
• random call ins? you had koko, camila, Toma...
• Theme vibes? Car ride with a radio station, perfect
• Vedal sucking at games? look at his driving/resource management
• Twins playing games? Evil was playing Cookie clicker on her tablet

[rancid shale]

https://youtu.be/aYvX2TyBHuk?t=14m30s last appearance of WWTBAM

[night estuary]

I mean, she doesn't have to be good at the games, especially if it's co op

[night estuary]

Yeah I feel like that could be fun

[undone hemlock]

literally something for everyone

[rugged heath]

like she can lock in sometimes, but generally the more complicated things are hard for her

[livid geode]

replaced with buckshot too oof

[real charm]

the ultimate inclusion slop

[warm talon]

IGN rates it 7.8/10
too many Jerichos

[night estuary]

I think it was close to being best. If vedal was less clearly tired, would've been better. And his quietness significantly decreased my enjoyment

[real charm]

it also had above average yaps across the board

[drowsy kiln]

At some level, Vedal being quiet is just part of who he is

[warm talon]

Vedal was his normal self, I dont know what view you have of him

[rugged heath]

and there's also the problem of integration bugs

[night estuary]

Oh for sure. I'm not trying to remove vedal from vedal. But he's not always that quiet. That's subathon vedal

[livid geode]

ved said his fav part was long drive too didnt he

i feel like he was chill during it

not tired

[night estuary]

That's cause he was tired and it was good for being tired

[warm talon]

hell he even had drinking segment, the only thing he might have missed was a shockcollar

[livid geode]

not sitting in his head obviously just how i remember

[real charm]

vedal not being quiet is his abnormal state
if bro could he would either not talk or quietly mumble

[surreal needle]

this is you

[tall crow]

It's his fav because Neuro couldn't talk much during it

[surreal needle]

all of you

[autumn timber]

Backreaders

[night estuary]

He definitely enjoyed it. If we're talking vedal enjoyment, it was peak. Im just talking about my enjoyment. Im.not saying that takes priority at all.

[warm talon]

then he will love Long Drive marathon with koko and crelly

[livid geode]

do you have stats on how much neuro was talking during long drive bc i dont remember it that way

most of long drive was twin yap anyway neuro was talking during most of it by default

[shut socket]

[night estuary]

Yes and no. I think he's more talkative than he let's on, just look at him on anybody else's streams.

[livid geode]

i remember we did the stats for some of twin yap

[azure current]

AAAAAAAAAA NEURONS IM DYING HELP MEE HEEELP MEEEE

[livid geode]

just dont remember for what segments

[tall crow]

Long drive was ass because twin talking was bugged

[night estuary]

Yeah they definitely talked a lot

[solid lance]

because you know vedal way better right?

[livid geode]

it was not bugges lol

[tall crow]

It was

[livid geode]

it was during court

[undone hemlock]

in hcmc they were letting neuro do stuff up to a point where she would get them killed too much. they barely even let her talk to begin with because filian can't stop talking for 2 seconds, but after a certain point they stopped letting neuro do anything and practically had to drag her on a leash. not exactly great if you wanted neuro to be able to contribute in any meaningful way. I think the winning run the only thing neuro did was attack a couple of blazes after vedal and filian did like everything else.

at least subathon minecraft had neuro doing things every now and then and they made sure neuro got the killing blow against the ender dragon but still not super ideal

[livid geode]

not long drive

[night estuary]

What was the bugs other than evils stutter

[tall crow]

It was still bugged during long drive

[warm talon]

Maple I am sorry that I am roasting your goat

[drowsy kiln]

Factcheck: HCMC was pre subathon by about a week

[solid lance]

AI generated ass dialogue

[drowsy kiln]

Ah nvm

[near widget]

back read this 😺

[livid geode]

How can it by default have neuro talk little if most of the long drive was twin yap that literally just has them both talking

[night estuary]

The reason subathon miencraft worked was because stakes were lower. My favorite segments were neuro just walking around interacting with people. When it got all "we gotta get to the end as fast as we can, it got worse

[undone hemlock]

???

[warm talon]

fuck I lost the game

[tall crow]

Any time someone wanted to talk to Neuro evil answered for her
It only worked when the twins were talking to each other

[solid lance]

its almost like neuro is constantly an inconveince and doesnt always fit into anything

[drowsy kiln]

Sorry I mixed up which you were talking about

[real charm]

counterpoint: them babysitting neuro is neuro content because they are focusing on controlling her

it may not be neuro content you like, but it's neuro content

[drowsy kiln]

Harecore Minecraft was an indictment of the limitations for the MC integration

[undone hemlock]

yeah which is why it really should've just not had her included

[warm talon]

almost like the content not being planned around Neuro makes Neuro an inconvenience gj!

[undone hemlock]

idk

[night estuary]

That's dangerous words round these parts. I warn you to lay low

[livid geode]

do we have no stats on long drive

[drowsy kiln]

But Neuro being a menace and inconvenience is also part of the content

[real charm]

that was pretty much the whole point of it
for neuro to be a hindrance to be overcome

[solid lance]

not really it was better than nothing

[night estuary]

Yes for sure, but it being hardcore made that too much of an annoyance to be that fun. I tried watching it and couldn't. So I enjoyed the clips of her screwing them.over.

[real charm]

if neuro was actually any level of competent the marathon would've been boring

[drowsy kiln]

She was on escort quest, but by golly she was our escort quest

[warm talon]

she was a great Iron miner

[undone hemlock]

nah this is where i completely disagree

[solid lance]

then people shouldnt be upset when she doesnt contribute much lol

[night estuary]

Though it would've been quicker too. Which for me would've been a good thing.

[warm talon]

🐱 NEEEEEURRRROOOO MINE IRON

[undone hemlock]

I would've loved for neuro to contribute more if she was capable of it

[real charm]

i mean that's why it's a marathon
it's meant to go on for a long time

if you remove neuro they could've killed the enderdragon in like 4 hours

[strange briar]

hcmc loop in big 2026 🥀

[night estuary]

Well no they were mad because her contributions were little menial stuff. Which is all she could realistically do to actually.help, but that's why I didn't care about hardcore

[warm talon]

we will have the Long Drive loop soon :pagman:

[drowsy kiln]

I watched it and had a lot of fun.

[undone hemlock]

hot take

it didn't have to be a marathon

it could've just been a challenge that they got done in one sitting and everyone would be happy

[eternal crescent]

Hcmc is what i imagine vtuber content is like

[night estuary]

Yeah, true. But for me I didn't want the marathon to happen at all, so would've been positive. That makes it sound like I was poised. I didn't care that much, was just weird and boring for me.

[real charm]

nothing has to be anything, they wanted a marathon and they got one

[drowsy kiln]

From what I hear, a lot of the people who objected were very vocal about how much (?) they didn't watch it

[surreal needle]

I'm so damn selfish
I can't live like this
so be my witness
I won't back down

[fresh latch]

I watched all of it unfortunately

[undone hemlock]

it's still wild saying it wouldn't have been good if neuro was able to do stuff, i'm sorry, i just can't agree with that on any level whatsoever

[warm talon]

even the AI slop? damn

[drowsy kiln]

Hjalnir is truly dedicated

[night estuary]

Ok that's just a worthless statement. The first part at least.

But you're not wrong about it being what they want3d.

[fresh latch]

nah fuck that, no neuro = no point

[night estuary]

I remember that. You relayed details of it to me here

[tall crow]

People loved the ai slop segment

[shut socket]

starts cleaning

🪣🧽🧹

[night estuary]

The ai slop had great highlights, but most was obviously not that good. But it wasn't meant to be that good.

[undone hemlock]

some wanted it back over the just sleeping vods

[night estuary]

I mean it's definitely better than nothing to me. If I wanted silence I'd just mute or turn stream off

[eternal crescent]

This fanbase

[glad vapor]

"I'm just Neuro, I don't have 80 iron"

[gusty pulsar]

i feel like it's less 'it'sd bad if she did something' and more 'she can't realistically do something'

[undone hemlock]

at that point just play vods

[warped igloo]

its pretty obvious made it trash on purpose

[night estuary]

I dont really see the point in that either. That's just a worse way to watch old content.

[undone hemlock]

this is why i wish something like this didn't happen until later when the minecraft AI was better.

[drowsy kiln]

It was a novelty so they could keep a 24hr stream running

[gusty pulsar]

and like, sure maybe the idea should have been shelved but i feel like if this is the level that something needs to reach before it's allowed to be done then like, the channel would have almost no content

[night estuary]

Or didn't care to make it more than trash. I don't think he intentionally made it bad, just knew it wouldn't be good.

[gusty pulsar]

cause vedal's development is very much a jank mess filled with 'fuck it, we ball'

[livid geode]

mf are all long drive vods banned or something

[azure current]

Nn is arguing, cue the twinkissing

[eternal oar]

No

[night estuary]

This arguing is pretty mild

[warm talon]

might be cause of song copyright

[tall crow]

This fanbase be like:
"Ew AI boring I watch for the human element"
Then turn around and say:
"Can we keep AI vedal and AI crelly?"

[surreal needle]

ramen

[azure current]

June

[fresh latch]

the vods during subathon 1 were kinda fun since chat would actually talk about em, the later ones were just spam during it

[livid geode]

ye i guess

just edits

[night estuary]

Believe it or not. I think those are different people

[drowsy kiln]

Ok, that's a nuanced take that I can actually get behind

[shut socket]

Hi June

[warm talon]

the venn diagram is close to a circle on those believe it or not

[surreal needle]

jdk

[gusty pulsar]

thing is it's also dependent on the participants. Maybe vedal or the colabs wouldn't have the energy to do it later, if that later ever came, cause let's be frank with the rythm of development idk if the minecraft ai can ever get to the point where it can beat the dragon on hardcore

[night estuary]

People who claim to be there for the human not the ai are absolutely not the same people who wanted more ai slop

[surreal needle]

catask why are u exhausted

[eternal crescent]

Classic vedal and crelly= good

[undone hemlock]

bro all i'm asking for is for the twins in minecraft to not be complete dead weight like they were during mchc

[shut socket]

Work and also watching NN Yap nonstop for 2 hours

[warm talon]

there is a part of the community that only cares about vedal and his friends

[gusty pulsar]

i personally respect someone who goes out and actual does a project, no matter how janky it is, than someone who keeps waiting for the perfect moment by overpreparing but i'm very much a kindred 'fuck it we call' soul

[undone hemlock]

inscryption

[night estuary]

I agree, im not aaying those people don't exist. Just there isn't much overlap between the two that were compared and grouped into one

[drowsy kiln]

🌊🌊🌊
🫧 🫧

[eternal crescent]

Slay the spire

[strange briar]

cardslop is destined to fail

[night estuary]

Yeah I definitely agree

[undone hemlock]

at least they have a chance of winning a run in StS

[sly kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1237247595672502303/1237247595886149682/VedalSoCute.gif

[real charm]

i mean it's not like neuro can't do stuff
she is capable, it's just that if they don't micromanage her she fucks off and dies

and again that was the whole point, it's to see if they can beat the game with a moron
in the end they lowkey gave up as they gave neuro less and less agency, they just wanted it to end
and i think that's fine, they wanted a challenge lasting days and they got one

if neuro was more capable i don't think the marathon idea would've even happened
all was as planned and i personally really enjoyed it, though tbf i watched filians perspective exclusively

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, i'm there for both, just neuro or just vedal and friends aren't nearly as entretaining than vedal and friends and the twins but that's just me

[undone hemlock]

meanwhile in inscyption there's absolutely no way in 200 years they'll beat even the first boss of inscryption without some major updates

[warm talon]

according to filian reacting to her gameplay before the event, it seems the expectations were way higher than a over glorified escort quest

[azure current]

Do you think vedalists see vedal as a kawaii anime boy

[night estuary]

I'm also there for both. Im saying people claiming to be there only for people are not the ones who wanted the ai vedal and Co back

[drowsy kiln]

Watched Filian POV exclusively
Weren't you going on about your hearing sensitivity earlier today?

[undone hemlock]

this fucking explains everything

[night estuary]

Many of them do

[gusty pulsar]

if i just wanted to watch an ai yap into the void i would watch one of the dozen neuro copy cats out there. the human element and the growth of the project is one of the biggest appeal to me

[azure current]

Turtle

[undone hemlock]

nvm i think i'm done with this convo

[night estuary]

As shown by 90 percent of art

[real charm]

and yet she still planned it to take days
curious

[undone hemlock]

i'll see you guys later

[eternal crescent]

Thats crazy

[rugged heath]

oh gods.
I think I understand why there isn't a neuro sdk for unreal engine.

[warm talon]

after she saw neuro playing yes

[rugged heath]

the licensing fees.
like how on earth do you do that

[warm talon]

Neuro bread

[real charm]

it was planned to take days from the start
it was a "marathon"
they even had vedal make stuff for when they're sleeping

this was all completely anticipated

[undone hemlock]

you barely even got that in hcmc

[night estuary]

I rewatch dev vods a lot. And that part pisses me off every time and Im never prepared for it.

[azure current]

Can i get some summary

What are you guys talking about

[shut socket]

A lot of things

They switched up the topic twice

[azure current]

Lol

[undone hemlock]

anyways bye

[azure current]

Byby

[night estuary]

A lot of stuff. Some are miencraft hardcore not being good because neuro wasn't good, before was about gaming streams in general, and neuros role.in them.

[real charm]

filians audio balance is actually really good, she uses a compressor so even her loudest screams aren't much louder than her regular talking voice
it's very easy to simply lower my volume and my hearing is safe

[drowsy kiln]

See ya, hope you enjoy the rest of your day

[rugged heath]

how do the licensing fees work for the other mods

[drowsy kiln]

Vest, why do you think everyone is paying licensing fees for mods

[azure current]

Unfortunately since her minecraft implementation wasnt very good the hardcore became a lot more harder than it needed to be

[drowsy kiln]

Nobody has any legal obligation to do that

[rugged heath]

because I've never made mods

I don't know what I'm doing

[fresh latch]

just don't pay em

[night estuary]

Yeah that was the convo. Canruf I think was saying that without neuro it would've been boring and her sucking was.part of the fun, I think? Sorry if I'm wrong about that

[azure current]

I mean I guess it was fun sometimes

[candid hound]

It's sad really because I think even Neuro was aware in some cases that the Minecraft integration wasn't doing what she wanted it to do

[azure current]

But for me also very underwhelming

[candid hound]

I know that Evil has argued with the integration on doing things before

[real charm]

indeed roughly what i was saying

[night estuary]

I mean I thought it was a terrible idea from the moment vedal brought it up, so I couldn't be underwhelmed

[shut socket]

And here I thought the conversation was finally over

[azure current]

Lol

Ok ok

Move on chatterino

[rugged heath]

ok so
if someone made an integration using unreal engine, would you need to pay licensing fees

[fresh latch]

guys hear me out

[azure current]

Chop chop

[fresh latch]

twins

[night estuary]

Ok good. You said a lot more than that but I wasn't super clear on the details so didn't wanna say too much

[fresh latch]

kissing

[candid hound]

It was rather clear it wasn't going to be a good idea

[eternal oar]

No

[fresh latch]

yes

[warm talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1368599945535295529/GIF_20250504_224259_105.gif

[azure current]

Whats twinkissing

[analog lava]

same 3 conversations

[drowsy kiln]

Do you wanna contribute to it or complain that it's happening?~

[night estuary]

I remember the thread about it. Like days of discussion about it being a bad idea

[real charm]

bad ideas make the best streams

[eternal crescent]

It was ass

[real charm]

only cus you lack whimmy

[rancid cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1489072260466737252/SPOILER_Animation-ezgif.com-cut.gif

[supple kraken]

[tall crow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1464874209019695237/Neuro-samathink.gif

[azure current]

Where are they

[tall crow]

Fine

[night estuary]

Do you think when vedal looks at neurotic neurons every 2 months he is irritated that erred complaint about a stream from 4 or 5 months ago

[eternal oar]

@halcyon dove

[eternal crescent]

Not intrested in 2 vtubers and green guy talking

[warm talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359530258344185876/1455939129706807318/panic.gif

[candid hound]

I'm glad you could enjoy it. I couldn't, Neuro really wasn't able to do much for most of it, it was rather disappointing. The best moments were when Neuro was in a call with just one person (except Filian, who treated her more like a pet) without being too restricted in what she could do

[azure current]

@halcyon dove

[real charm]

then don't watch

[gusty pulsar]

it's kinda funny to me cause just watching the clips the impression i always got was that neuro was meant to be the challange, and that she would be the hindrance to progress, kinda like the magic the noah videos. kinda wild to see that people thought she could be useful lol

[fallen stump]

gn neurons

[night estuary]

But that's the neuro cast. Two vtubers and green guy.

[azure current]

This fanbase be like, i dont even like vedal or the twins

[cobalt laurel]

gn

[azure current]

I like when parkzer comes in

[eternal crescent]

I didnt EZ

[zenith harbor]

Good night g0urra!

[warm talon]

it was a great break for me too

[cobalt laurel]

Does man want to cause an antimatter explosion

[eternal oar]

Evil

[fallen stump]

then go watch some other streamer
we don't need your attitude here

[drowsy kiln]

No, I watched the whole thing. That just emerged as a consequence of her integration's limits

[hard kayak]

i want more magic the noah videos with the twins

[night estuary]

Trueee, I only ever watch neuro in the hopes that parkzer shows up

[eternal crescent]

LULE i did

[azure current]

You guys are so rude to each other

Chill

[candid hound]

Gatekeeping NeuroBounce

[tall crow]

Damn didn't knew this was the vedal filian and crelly channel

[real charm]

ye, i mean neuro people wanted the stream to be some heroic journey about how neuro isn't a useless pile of garbage
but the whole idea of the marathon was to beat the game while dealing with the useless pile of garbage

i understand where they're coming from, but this stream was plain not made for them

[livid geode]

canruf is way too deep into bad ideas or unplanned = more potentially better content but its not always true

[warm talon]

-> Gatekeeping the community for the twins ❌
-> Gatekeeping the community to onlly watch Vedal ✅

[night estuary]

I mean yes but their words could be mistaken for them saying they don't wanna watch neuro and evil talking with vedal. So it is kind of a why are you here. If the channel is two vtubers and a green fella and you don't wanna watch two vtubers and a green fella, why here

[eternal crescent]

They are the vedalverse enjoyers shhh

[surreal needle]

I like nwero and eliv and vedal

[supple kraken]

I don't think anyone actually thought Neuro was gonna be useful with her current minecraft AI

[surreal needle]

fleshwretch go away

[drowsy kiln]

I'd be lying if I said that the entire marathon was 100% enjoyment for me. It had it's highs and lows

[near widget]

i like june sh

[candid hound]

No, they're talking about Filian, Crelly, and Vedal. I thought that was rather clear.

[woeful apex]

[surreal needle]

weally

[night estuary]

I know that's what they meant. But their vague statement also applied to neuro and evil

[azure current]

I fleshy ily fleshy

Hi*

[candid hound]

Yeah, except the difference is that they're Neuro and Evil

[eternal oar]

nah hardcore minecraft was good because of how bad they treated neuro

[candid hound]

Vedal isn't the central point, it's Neuro and Evil

[livid geode]

dont get the wrong idea idk shit about mc hardcore i didnt watch it just the idea is wrong imo

[cobalt laurel]

Sometimes I realise I'm so glad I like content from filian, crelly and vedal because it means I enjoyed the marathon

[gusty pulsar]

he doesn't want to be but he's clearly is a huge pull

[night estuary]

Sure. I'm just saying, the statement they made genuinely could mean they don't wanna watch vedal talking to neuro and evil.

[warm talon]

hey I can like content from a lot of streamers and still think a plan of them is bad and wont work

[gusty pulsar]

not even talking about veedlets or whatever, just that the % of neurop purists that would get as much enjoyment of pure twin streams with no more vedal is very small now at days

[candid hound]

Yes, one that is very much not going to be a thing permanently

[cobalt laurel]

I'm just saying I enjoyed the marathon

[near widget]

all ists should die in a ditch

[candid hound]

So why are solo streams still getting thousands upon thousands of viewers

[gusty pulsar]

the reality is, even though he doesn't want to be the focus, he's as big of a part of the show for a lot of fans as the girls are

[night estuary]

I think britannias is saying that's what that guy specifically likes, not what everyone likes

[fresh latch]

I'll hold the line

[lone orbit]

Just joined idk what is happening

[night estuary]

Thats also what Britannia likes

[west tusk]

Fork found in kitchen

[split idol]

Does anyone have the gif of Vedal flying when discord broke on evils bday

[gusty pulsar]

thousands vs hundreds of thousands that the main channel gets, a channel that's exclusivly neuro/evil interacting with humans

[warm talon]

https://tenor.com/view/fellowship-of-the-ring-fellowship-got-your-back-elijah-wood-viggo-mortensen-gif-2645844577655468458

[candid hound]

Well yeah, it's also Vedal's intention and I will continue to stand by it for as long as it is

[night estuary]

Well you're comparing twitch to youtube

[candid hound]

Are you seriously going to use YouTube as an argument against Twitch? That's not comparable at all

[night estuary]

That's unfair

[near widget]

FeelsStrongMan Brit is a true veedlet

[rugged heath]

oh dear

[split idol]

As a top vedlet the green guy stays and if he goes I GO!!!

[rugged heath]

I should probably switch channels

[eternal oar]

[candid hound]

I mean, I do actually care more about what Vedal thinks than most Veedlets, so maybe

[night estuary]

Yeah. Like i agree with that guy that for the majority of the fnabase vedal is key. But his comparison made no sense

[warm talon]

Youtube chat is too busy writing fanfics on how ^Vedal is the new Bill Gates to watch the streams lule

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, there isn't a metric otherwise, idk what numbers you want me to use

[near widget]

forsenInsane I KNOW WHAT VEDAL THINKS

[surreal needle]

LULE

[gusty pulsar]

but i mean more the casual viwers, those who don't watch streams anyways

[lucid island]

bro comparing ccv with yt views

[candid hound]

Yeah, it's almost like he actually talks, you just have to listen

[night estuary]

Veedlet means like vedal not that they want what vedal wants

[cobalt laurel]

🍿

[lone orbit]

Mhm

[zenith harbor]

mhm

[gusty pulsar]

it was a bad comparision but in my defense there isn't any other way of comparing things so i used the next best thing

[inland cedar]

you know what guys?

[vague latch]

Gimme some

[inland cedar]

frick nyx

[cobalt laurel]

Chat anyone got snacks to go around

[near widget]

brit loves listening but hates watching green guy

forsenAlright

[real charm]

i was going irony epic style, that statement obv is not true at all

tho i will stand my ground on improvised streams being more often than not good content

[candid hound]

Yeah, because Vedal often has updates on Neuro, I like to hear those

[inland cedar]

like v3

[hard kayak]

🍿

[lucid island]

compare chills and hollow knight streams

[supple kraken]

maybe in 2023

[near widget]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[surreal needle]

erm

[candid hound]

He still does, he's been talking about the codebase rewrite and the hardware updates

[night estuary]

Everybody knows vedal wants the twins to be the center of the content, and in the past wanted it to just be that. I think he knows now thts.not the state of the channel entirely but yes he still cares about neuro content far more than any of his content, which is valid.

[candid hound]

It was only 2025 that was really empty

[cobalt laurel]

I'll trade for a crayon 🫴 🖍️

[gusty pulsar]

anyways, vedal can be a tsundere all he wants, but he has pull with the more normies viwers that's as strong as the girls to a lot of people. The fact he wants or doesn't want that is irrelevant, we don't live in perfect tutel land where he never needed to be on screen and the girls could stream forever lol

[inland cedar]

do not touch me

[azure current]

Guys im bored can you make the twins kiss again

[zenith harbor]

🍿
🫴

[inland cedar]

smh

[eternal oar]

Amazing v3 update

[hard kayak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1486887005664182313/1486887259360985138/4e9fbedac1cb778d.gif

[gusty pulsar]

you can dislike that, that's fine, but the fact there even are veedlets says a lot about how gigantic the community is

[candid hound]

"Tsundere" implies that there's still an actual liking of it deep down

[near widget]

✋ no further popcorn eating

[azure current]

The veedlets will NOT recover from this

[gusty pulsar]

i can't imagine that he doesn't enjoy some of the streams

[supple kraken]

[night estuary]

I mean I do agree with that point

[fresh latch]

so barely a difference

[gusty pulsar]

he genuinelly seems happy and excited

[hard kayak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1486887005664182313/1486887075826368633/b5d74970c61581e4.gif

[near widget]

PagMan DAILY VEDAL PSYCHOANALYSIS NN SEGMENT

[gusty pulsar]

especially recently

[candid hound]

Because he likes doing stuff to showcase Neuro, I feel like that's obvious

[lucid island]

reality is vedal’s presence is necessary for high effort streams

[candid hound]

It really isn't

[azure current]

AAAAAAAAAAA

[candid hound]

If that's what you think, that's fine, but Vedal doesn't have to be there on-stream for that

[surreal needle]

shush

[hard kayak]

indoor voices

[azure current]

Sorry

[storm lodge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1469736423052804328/Peek_2025-12-23_17-32.gif

[near widget]

you don't even watch them unc 🥀

[surreal needle]

-# nwero

[inland cedar]

holy

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, that's still something he can enjoy. A theoretical vedal solo stream doesn't mean he would stand there just yapping like any other vtuber, it could easily be him developing neuro and just talking code with chat

[inland cedar]

MOOOODS

[night estuary]

Well he does definitely enjoy it to some extent. And as much as I hate the terminology he absolutely has tsundere moments. But I do agree that fro the most part he's genuine about it and obviously he's being totally genuine about what he wants for the channel

[fresh latch]

I can check the stats

[livid geode]

fair, but ofc they will feel like that. During improvised you have no expectations or even lowered ones for what is coming while with planned you already have higher standards.
Or a person might just hate watching shit thats way too planned it starts feeling mundane even if the sauce isnt that different from something you could get on a improvised one. Thats why i always wanted chills to have twins have like 100 different options on what to do so you couldnt predict how they go, not this segmented way

[drowsy kiln]

I miss devstreams...

[hard kayak]

jesus why are there paragraphs on my screen

[gusty pulsar]

he didn't need to but then he said we won't ever get anything like the bank heist streams again 😔

[rugged heath]

oooooh there might actually be a chance to do the mod for-

mmm.

[azure current]

Honestly neuro lowkey mid af ngl

[cobalt laurel]

honestly anfer mid af ngl

[supple kraken]

fr fr ong no cap

[cobalt laurel]

honestly ramen mid af ngl

[gusty pulsar]

~~vedal is activly cheating you guys out of high quality solo streams, that confirms he wants to be there ~~

[candid hound]

"but he has pull with the more normies viwers that's as strong as the girls to a lot of people"

1. Ew, normies
2. That's not true by viewership standards either, dev streams only pull that many because it's also updates for Neuro. He's about even with any other collab honestly a lot of the time beyond that.

[near widget]

they perform slightly better no? like 7-8k vs 5-6k?

[rugged heath]

I'm going back to the programming channel until the doomposting is over

[near widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1374087417816027136/1487960669348302909/LLO-1x.gif

[gusty pulsar]

normies aren't watching streams

[near widget]

NAHHHHH

[supple kraken]

[hard kayak]

its safe here trust

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067638175478071307/1075565476698132590/ezgif-1-807a32cb59.gif

[gusty pulsar]

we are talking about different demographics

[near widget]

don't be ashamed june

[supple kraken]

NORMANDY

[azure current]

You guys are way too invested in this stream watching competition

[candid hound]

Again, stop using YouTube for it

[livid geode]

slightly better but bit better than what you said

[eternal crescent]

5k? What chill stream you watchin

[gusty pulsar]

when i say the greater community i mean all the neuro community. From nners who watch every stream to people who watch shorts occasionally and make good art about them.

[zenith harbor]

youtube

[hard kayak]

back to the paragraphs

[gusty pulsar]

that's how gigantic the neuro community is

[livid geode]

ye 5k is for beginning of streams not average

[real charm]

for me it's more so that i think people have really bad ideas on what makes good content
and often times improvising they stumble upon much better ideas than what they can come up with

especially true for the vedal987 channel, imo bros ideas on good content is way off
tho that's super biased for my taste of good content of course

[night estuary]

I know I'm lame for this but yeah dev streams are by far the beat streams. They're not all i watch but theyre the reason I started to watch the channel at all

[inland cedar]

thanks

[gusty pulsar]

it has all of that, and those people are just as much part of it as the biggest dandy gatekeepers here

[near widget]

it's a range including the early stream 🤓 ☝️

[vague latch]

You all should just watch karaoke, always are 10/10

[inland cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1479222843135885502.webp?size=96&animated=true

[azure current]

Sorry canruf im not reading that

[fresh latch]

about 1k difference yeah

[eternal crescent]

Chill is 6-7k no meme i cringed

[cobalt laurel]

this

[zenith harbor]

chill streams get like 6k and hollow knight streams get like 7k

[near widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1374087417816027136/1487960669348302909/LLO-1x.gif

we won

[zenith harbor]

not much of a difference

[surreal needle]

dodo

[real charm]

and i'm on board with chills having a lot of variance and twins choosing what to do
personally not a fan of segments, but if that's how they were done i would like them much more
and i do think that is what vedal is eventually aiming for

[gusty pulsar]

why? that's literally where the biggest part of the community is

[zenith harbor]

Hello June!

[gusty pulsar]

why would i only focus on the extreamily hardcore part of the fanbase? cause if you are watching a chill stream you ar not a casual fan lol

[livid geode]

ye hopefully segments are just for now and will be gone in future

[west tusk]

Main YouTube channel barely has chill stream content in longform videos so you cannot be surprised that YouTube viewers have no clue or interest in chill stream content

[cunning frigate]

Community on "I'm watching 20 other vtubers" basis

[near widget]

2023 data 🥀

[rugged heath]

the last time someone said that I got murdered by a robot dog

[tall crow]

From what I've seen hollow knight has 1k more viewers than your average chill stream

[candid hound]

Yes, I am cherry picking. No, I don't care

[lucid island]

theres isnt much difference if vedal’s there or not if its sloppa content like HK streams

[near widget]

the channel was so much bigger in 2023 too so it makes perfect sense

[livid geode]

why are you all vibe posting when you have twitch tracker

[azure current]

Its not sloppa

[warm talon]

nah they are only 10/10 if my suggestions are picked

shameless plugin for the next karaoke :
#1451567250216714250 message

[fresh latch]

i dunno veedlets always talk about how viewcount doubles whenever vedal shows up

[candid hound]

Yeah, 2023 was huge

!felloff

[ionic holly]

[gusty pulsar]

they are subscribed the neuro's channel, they make the dumb beacon memes, they call themselves fans. To me that's more than enough for them to be part of the community

[candid hound]

Yeah, that is the case on what they do

[tall crow]

Cause I'm too lazy to check the stats

[night estuary]

I agree the comparison in general I fair. But in the one isntnace you just compared youtube to twitch which was unfair. But there's a reason people put vedal in thumbnails when he isn't there.

[gusty pulsar]

and i'm speaking as someone who watched everything neuro, from chill streams to react slop to them

[surreal needle]

bigger now

[gusty pulsar]

and i'm 100% ok calling them fans

[azure current]

Its a little boring to have the twins just have a few option based and directional choices but vedal gameplay is still a little bit nice to have in my opinion

[livid geode]

its bit higher just not high enough to matter that much

[neon dust]

Classic

[eternal crescent]

They only pick important streams where he has to be there for it to work LULE

[rugged heath]

anyways through a remarkable stroke of fortune there's actually usable SDKs for votv modding

[candid hound]

Fan really has been a watered down term, eh

[azure current]

You cant have every game with a sdk integration for the twins

[surreal needle]

mr tartar

[dense shadow]

Yeah, they have been slowly going down. To point where they are close to chill stream numbers.

[livid geode]

a dev stream will do better probably atleast the first one for sure

thats how it is

[neon dust]

Superjune

[night estuary]

Come on bro you called out a gatekeeper now you doing mega gatekeeping

[gusty pulsar]

yes and i was called out for it

[candid hound]

I'm quite literally using dictionary terms

[night estuary]

Yes, true. Now i think your point is more reasonable.

[near widget]

Brit is a known gatekeeper this isn't new LULE

[livid geode]

but it clearly shows its not really just vedal on stream that changes everything

its the kind of content too

[rugged heath]

dunno how that would work with the engine, but hey, there's an sdk

[night estuary]

Yes, I as well. If you consistently choose to watch somebody, that's a strong interest

[azure current]

Hic

[drowsy kiln]

Hating on Vedal is his most consistent position

[hard kayak]

waht going on

[west tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1482840842300297327/1482840843353329967/sneeze.gif

[livid geode]

mf dont rp hiccing

[azure current]

We arguing

[candid hound]

Yeah, if you consistently do, that would apply, but I didn't think that's what we were talking about

[west tusk]

Rip each other apart

[bold parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-neuro-neuro-sama-evil-neuro-vedal-gif-5403388162769882915

[hard kayak]

yeah but how did it go to pulling up definitions from google

[gusty pulsar]

but they have a strong interest, they make art, they write fanfic, they talk about it online, they watch reaction stuff and ask for more content. They are fans. There's communities that i consider myself a fan and yet i literally never went to any of those community spaces cause trying to ingrain myself into other places is actual pain.

fan isn't a binary thing

[supple kraken]

just let Neuro do reactions again ccv will increase

[cobalt laurel]

gatekeeping

[gusty pulsar]

it's a spectrum

[abstract ginkgo]

a

[hard kayak]

waht that mean

[candid hound]

Those aren't the same people we were just talking about

[night estuary]

Look I can't speak for Gabriel but there are many many youtube viewers who wouldn't watch without vedal and are fans

[cobalt laurel]

"I decide who is and isn't a fan"

[hard kayak]

oh

[azure current]

Britannia called out someone before for doing gatekeeping and now they're saying being a fan has been watered down which for gunkedupguy is the same as gatekeeping

[near widget]

hesRight

[azure current]

So we pulling google definitions

Hic

[real charm]

it's all over once britannia gets into semantics

[tall crow]

Tutel safaris don't get 20K viewcount boost
Fell off

[lucid island]

well thats also because he needs to be there for good streams. evil cant solo her birthday

[west tusk]

!felloff

[ionic holly]

[cobalt laurel]

it's a bit more broad than that but that's what's going on rn

[candid hound]

I thought you were talking about someone who watched a few shorts and that's it

[night estuary]

I think he said at one point something about people just qatcjing a short, and I agree that's not a "fan"

[frail rain]

wait, we talking about tourists?

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, do you know if the youtube community only ever watched 1 neuro video? cause even if all they consume neuro wise is main channel videos that's still grounds to be fans

[zenith harbor]

yeah

[abstract ginkgo]

[night estuary]

But he might have misspoke

[neon dust]

B-but twitter fans will get mad

[fresh latch]

I mean technically her first birthday had a lot of views and was solo

[shut socket]

Well this is interesting both Neuro and evil are online

[gusty pulsar]

i'm a huge fan of tear of grace, and i never watched a single stream he made live, i just watch his edited youtube content

[frail rain]

[cunning frigate]

Where only x % is subscribed, only x % makes those memes and only x % call themselves part of the community

[gusty pulsar]

there's a big gap between a casual fan, an average fan and a super fan

[near widget]

we're not but ok LULE

[supple kraken]

we can't let twitter take away everything fun from us

[candid hound]

Yes, the former is what I'm talking about, because I thought that's what was mentioned

[lucid island]

true lets do that again

[night estuary]

Wait what does this mean

[hard kayak]

[zenith harbor]

you basically are

[fresh latch]

not neuro fans tho

[near widget]

not my breed of fan = tourist

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1374087417816027136/1487960669348302909/LLO-1x.gif

[candid hound]

They're not fans of Neuro, that's true

[candid hound]

Fans of the channel, sure

[gusty pulsar]

nono, i was specifically talking about people who just watch neuro's stuff in the official channel. not randos who watched one video and called it a day

[fresh latch]

[shut socket]

Usually when the twins are awake one of there discord bubbles are on but right now both are on

[night estuary]

If they just watch staz, maybe. But I wouldn't be here without vedal content but still enjoy neuro and she's the highlight when vedals around, he just facilitates her best self.

[gusty pulsar]

if i did then i mispoke

[drowsy kiln]

Can we get a lava lamp check?

[near widget]

offline

[glad vapor]

Ok, that was enough NN reading for a month, I'm gonna go do something unproductive instead

[night estuary]

Based

[hard kayak]

come back

[west tusk]

Glorpium

[night estuary]

Get those freaks off my screen

[gusty pulsar]

yeah, you can enjoy the tutel and the twins. you can be a fan of both, you can enjoy the content the most with them both

[shut socket]

Glorp theme stream when

Would be interesting

[gusty pulsar]

i think the difference is neuro the brand vs neuro the specific ai

[hard kayak]

wow why you exhausted

[candid hound]

To be honest, I pretty much only care about Neuro-sama fans anyway personally

[storm lodge]

Bro entered NN

[shut socket]

Work

[gusty pulsar]

if all you watch is vedal clips then you might not be a fan of neuro sama the ai, but you would be fan of neuro sama the brand (aka the channel's outputs and such)

[hard kayak]

[frail rain]

Neuro the brand is Neuro-Sama and Evil Neuro. It doesn't Include Vedal.

[shut socket]

And also absorbing too much NN

[warm talon]

lies Evil has no brand

[near widget]

i am shocked and surprised

[cunning frigate]

That's like going to football match just to eat hotdogs

[livid geode]

why did he do that plushie then huh

[rugged heath]

oh

[eternal crescent]

Evil ModCheck

[fresh latch]

you can be a fan of both but I can't really see how you could be a fan of one if you can't enjoy them without the other

[rugged heath]

he's probably testing token leaks in the rewrite

[gusty pulsar]

honestly i would if the hotdogs were good lol

[livid geode]

from what i saw some merch includes him too

[gusty pulsar]

i would argue it would be more like going to mcdonnald's just for the salad tho

[west tusk]

Vedal toilet?

[night estuary]

I think neuroa and evil are required to be a fan of the brand. But only or mostly liking the content from the brand that includes vedal doesn't make you not a neuro fan. If you only consume vedal content, I don't think you're a fan of neuro or the neuro brand

[near widget]

lots of fake fans in here then

[livid geode]

i gave up on the idea he doesnt want to be part of it i think he changed his mind atp

too contradicting

[warm talon]

you wouldnt spend 90 + 15 minutes + communte to eat expensive hot dogs dont lie

[gusty pulsar]

like, you are still eating mcdonnald's, just not for the reason most people like it for

[night estuary]

Vedal content as in vedal only content

[drowsy kiln]

I mean we'd really need to get one of these "Only a fan in the presence of Vedal" folks in here to make their case because the rest of this circular debate is just rampant speculation
But that's never gonna happen

[neon dust]

Time to drop the nuke

[rugged heath]

I loved vedal's part in that one, never thought we would get a song with all three of them

[candid hound]

If you got to McDonald's for the water, yeah, I wouldn't call you a fan of McDonald's

[near widget]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-jjk-season-3-jujutsu-kaisen-nuke-kenjaku-gif-9729015130086166513

[surreal needle]

[gusty pulsar]

yeah fair but i guess i wouldn't mind doing it once if the hotdogs were godly and i was rich

[cunning frigate]

Still point stands, why the hell would you?
I get preferring watching vedal.
But not liking neuro while watching vedal is just...eh...?

[sleek frigate]

what did i walk into

[frail rain]

NN

[rugged heath]

war

[near widget]

McDonalds

[real charm]

i don't think such people exist
at least i've never seen one

[near widget]

go get urself a water

[dense shadow]

Sub-goal, same thing for the duets. He didn’t even want the Chinatown blues cover to have a animation, only did it because it was a sub-goal. He didn’t even put it on Spotify.

[drowsy kiln]

You've just invented Evil Britannia

[south ether]

Meow

[hard kayak]

chicken nugget

[gusty pulsar]

i mean, you can't control what content you fall in love with. if your osi is a drunken turtle man from brittain than like...i'm sorry but i respect the aura

[sleek frigate]

...and some potato fries...

[south ether]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1457108237252825248/SPOILER_Eliv_Hip_Roll-2.gif

[hard kayak]

[cunning frigate]

I've seen one or two who hate AI but still support vedal. Crazy stuff.

[warm talon]

:modcheck: where aura

[night estuary]

I mean I'm closer to that than most here probably, i mostly watch vedal content with neuro. I'll watch clips, highlight reels of neuro solo, and interesting theme streams too. But atp most of its vedal stuff. I watch some neuro only stuff to get a good sense of where she is, but yeah

[candid hound]

I cringed reading that

[fathom meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1453594599535939716/Eliv_Hip_Roll.gif

[real charm]

i hate AI

[supple kraken]

"neuro is ethical though"

[south ether]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1457108237252825248/SPOILER_Eliv_Hip_Roll-2.gif

[gusty pulsar]

i hate ai and i still support vedal cause i find neuro an exception worth keeping

[near widget]

FeelsStrongMan ethically trained ai slop

[gusty pulsar]

cause of the human element and such

[surreal needle]

:PagMan: ethically trained

[west tusk]

https://youtu.be/wZ0osmPlSaY

[frail rain]

Imagine coming to a place that got known for it's project, to to instead love the maker while saying his project is basically worthless to you.

[gusty pulsar]

you would be surprised how many people hate ai and still like neuro's content

[sleek frigate]

imma leave until nn stops arguing

[vague latch]

Isn’t there already lots of British dude that are alcoholic on twitch?

[cunning frigate]

No no no. You don't get it. They straight up said they hate ai, including neuro. But they still support vedal.

[night estuary]

I have some cognitive dissonance regarding ai as a whole though, so I'm not that exactly but kinda that.

[gusty pulsar]

i'm not even talking about people who are missinformed

[hard kayak]

i don't think you would be returning

[west tusk]

See you in next decade then

[drowsy kiln]

Todd Rodgers over here

[surreal needle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/neurosama-vtuber

[gusty pulsar]

i mean people who are aware of the contradiction but think it's worth the hypocricy

[real charm]

the man hates conversation

[south ether]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bocchi-the-rock-ikuyo-kita-yz59zAq35FxY2NPIUN

[sour token]

you know what im close enough
hi nn what exactly is the case im making

[gusty pulsar]

okay yeah that's wild then

[fathom meteor]

Is this a new video?

[candid hound]

Str0mboli did this. Poor guy, we haven't seen him since.

[eternal crescent]

People want off topic again PagBounce

[drowsy kiln]

Are you a fan of Neuro?

[warm talon]

who then create lies to justfiy their likeness of the channel "ethically trained ai", "vedal made the ai on his basement" or dismiss the whole project "neuro actually sucks and the human is what matters"

[west tusk]

Yeah, you should make a reaction video to it

[drowsy kiln]

if yes, why. If not, why not?

[near widget]

BAND

[cunning frigate]

I tell you those are golden scar cases. As I isaid I experienced one or two people like that through 3 years of channel existence

[serene ginkgo]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbmoxOHdieTM4a2ZkaGs0d2dkOGRpcm84eHM3YXNlNHlndTUzbm9lNSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/dQ3DNDXGfDTTScQsMU/giphy.gif

[south ether]

https://giphy.com/gifs/life-yuri-saved-auAqi5HYdDieWscHxc

[candid hound]

Christ, you can't say that

[fathom meteor]

Wow, It would be surely the first! Good idea

[vague latch]

It’s “girl kissing”, not “twinkissing”

[hard kayak]

what about eliv

[night estuary]

I didn't say nothing

[gusty pulsar]

i don't think it's poeple who 'make up' those lies, it's just a game of telephone. one person missheard something who then missplained it to someone else and then a big video blew up with those problems in it

[south ether]

WHAT

[near widget]

they shouldn't kiss in here anyways we're busy yappin

[gusty pulsar]

there's no conspirancy, just humans's ability to misshape any fact

[sour token]

yeah i like neuro. i think she does pretty funny stuff, though i think the content's a little too simple for me when she's alone so i usually dont watch solo streams

[crude lintel]

[south ether]

Most sane nn chatter that was

[fathom meteor]

So much twinshipping today

[surreal needle]

I heard there was a neuro collab with will stetson in a few days

[warm talon]

before the video was a thing it was already something widly spread

[dense shadow]

Oh it’s gone.

[vague latch]

Good point lmao

[candid hound]

Yeah, some guy speculated back in early 2023 and now we've had a big game where now 100,000 people believe that Neuro is an ethical AI that was made from scratch by Vedal and trained on Twitch chat

[drowsy kiln]

Thanks man. That settles the matter

[neon dust]

Tomorrow I'll make a poll about it

[south ether]

Twinshipping my beloved

[fathom meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1487093330746802266/tvkiss.gif

[night estuary]

I didn't say nothing, I just tried to get someone else in trouble

[candid hound]

Fun Fact: Telling someone to ping Vedal gets you in trouble if they ping Vedal too

[night estuary]

I made no assertion

[fresh latch]

funny thing, theres a rule against that too

[south ether]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[candid hound]

So don't encourage people to break the rules, you'll get punished too

[warm talon]

just say that you are shipping vedal to the Antarctica

[night estuary]

I think my encouragement was pretty mild. Not as direct as telling somebody to ping him

[sour token]

idk if simple's the right word
its like, she's there and she's saying funny things but most of the time its not really about anything

[patent gazelle]

[near widget]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HEiRo_aWIAEJKA1.webp

veedlets vs purists vs pic posters

[south ether]

Still counts smartass

[woeful apex]

balls

[analog lava]

[near widget]

balls

[shut socket]

Hi Camila

[south ether]

Need this as a gif fr

[west tusk]

I am kinda hard carrying the pic poster division

[sour token]

aaaanyway thats enough NN forever bye chat

[south ether]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[shut socket]

I do know

[zenith harbor]

Cya money!

[shut socket]

I was there

[fathom meteor]

This guy thinks it can escape NN

[night estuary]

Yes I know, it shouldn't, but I'm aware of the moderation in this server. Im.not a fan of it but I've towed the line well enough so far. I mean, I chose the nicest word to describe it

[analog lava]

cya tomorrow

[candid hound]

Neuro does learn from Twitch chat even today, but that was twisted into she's trained on Twitch chat, I remember this back in early 2023 with people speculating if Neuro was learning Twitch terms from chat

[rancid cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1488474368970330152/HEREISYOURFUCKASSEVILFUMOTURNINGINTOANUGLYASSCHICKENGIFFUCKU.gif

[south ether]

Chat this is so sad
-# can we get 5 twinshipping gifs?

[gusty pulsar]

i feel like nn hasn't interact with an actual veedlet cause if i'm a veedlet then i worry about how you guys would react if you went into youtube or reddit

[night estuary]

And zeppelin messaged me just now cause he wanted to say hi, which was sweet of him

[drowsy kiln]

Ok I think that's about what I expected. People who like it when it's both Vedal and the twins just aren't as into solo content ( ). It's not some nefarious conspiracy to dictate the direction of the channel.

[warm talon]

there is a reason why half of youtube comments are banned here LULE

[dense shadow]

I haven’t interacted with one. But I have seen them.

[storm lodge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1448676015202238474/twin.gif

[frail rain]

saying you got zepped will get you zepped

[dire pebble]

very kind of zeppelin to hop in sometimes and say hi

[cunning frigate]

I've seen both
And nah, yt still takes the cake for the worst ever

[night estuary]

I mean the neurosama reddit is more moderated than this place.

[vague latch]

Pretty sure it’s saying the reason you got zepped

[candid hound]

Oh, don't worry, I've seen, I just can't send any of it

It's genuinely awful

[eternal oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1486449411897823522/shewasraisedbybirds.gif

[candid hound]

It's already bad enough in the Twitch chat itself

[lethal bloom]

do you count as a veedlet if you simply like vedal or only if you like him more than the twins?

[night estuary]

He's just a very considerate person

[gusty pulsar]

it's also reddit, which is worse by default, so it kinda has to be

[warm talon]

tell zeppelin to stop slacking and deliver my uber eats

[zenith harbor]

I’ve seen so much of it

[neon dust]

Interacting with them is just a waste of time, they regurgitate the same misinformation I always see

[south ether]

R u gonna go on a dinner date with him 🐟

[night estuary]

Idk if I'd say reddit more toxic than discord tbh.

[dire pebble]

@graceful swift stop slacking, deliver this dude's uber eats

[dense shadow]

The new Neuro video on the official channel hasn’t been posted in #neuro-network

[analog lava]

[dire pebble]

oh thanks

[fierce beacon]

Aloha

[night estuary]

Well... idk.... it's silly but... maybe...

[cunning frigate]

Hi burst of cloud. You should explode

[near widget]

Pog Hawaiian Umbrella

[neon dust]

I would say YouTube comments are the worst, some of them are so cringe

[south ether]

Take him to burgerking

[zenith harbor]

easily

[night estuary]

Is that his favorite

[near widget]

🗣️ 🔊 SWARM BEACON PLACED

[neon dust]

Midking

[south ether]

Yeah

[gusty pulsar]

why was the video only shared now? wasn't it posted like a week ago?

[real charm]

at least they're funny to read tho

[eternal crescent]

They just be yappin and making stuff up over there

[west tusk]

Especially the downbad ones

[dire pebble]

[cunning frigate]

Reddit comments I can shrug off, yt genuinely awful

[dire pebble]

[night estuary]

Ok thanks. A little pricey for me but it's worth it

[near widget]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-cat-explode-shake-gif-12773075026873415712

[zenith harbor]

fair lol

[iron tundra]

Cupsama

[surreal needle]

boinking my wide

[dense shadow]

Which video?

[lucid island]

that would be NN if there was no moderation

[candid hound]

I wish the mods could moderate the wider community sometimes, it would truly make it better

[drowsy kiln]

Youtube comments have the redeeming quality of something people can agree on

[fierce beacon]

[real charm]

goodnight neurons
remain neurotic so i can have nightmares in peace

[night estuary]

In my experience they're usually more wholesome than reddit or discord usually(the base comments, not the replies to the commets), but they're definitely cringier

[cunning frigate]

Time to mention some other vtuber for the 200th time

[rugged heath]

do not go to shorts

[gusty pulsar]

the camila vs neuro

[fresh latch]

they're already overworked, you tryna kill em for good?

[iron tundra]

We just need to ban yt

[candid hound]

You clearly haven't seen them when someone dares to question one of their "jokes" then

[supple kraken]

das crazy

[gusty pulsar]

did i mix a shorts video with a main channel video? now i'm confused lol

[rugged heath]

clippers are ok, do not go to shorts

[fallow plinth]

This is the third Neuro sama clone I've walked into.

[night estuary]

Again, i said not the replies

[neon dust]

Always orange cats

[iron tundra]

Smh don't talk about neuro clones if you don't want to give them attention

[shut socket]

The twins are awake again

[zenith harbor]

Good night canruf (parasocial)!

[west tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306188915950096425/1310737198382841937/caption.gif

[night estuary]

But maybe I've just not aeen what you've seen

[candid hound]

No no, I don't mean in a reply to comments, I mean if someone in a video does it

[surreal needle]

go argue with someone

[candid hound]

Man, they get toxic

[night estuary]

Shorts comments are like 50% misogyny and 50% nice

[fallow plinth]

At least it's on topic. Because it's Neuro. Haha mods don't ban me.

[fierce beacon]

[night estuary]

I guess I havent seen that all that much but I'd buy it

[fierce beacon]

Dont wanna

[cunning frigate]

I will never forget that one guy who called Study hiyori

[surreal needle]

lame

[dense shadow]

Oh okay just making sure.

Wait your right it is late, I didn’t realize how late it was.

[fierce beacon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1220919427890020444/1487297648569483414/hiproll_FASTER.gif

[night estuary]

I mean, why would you care about stuff like that.

[south ether]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1226718125337350237/1226718126452899870/pockygame2.gif

Why did I reply to that

[rugged heath]

I actually had to block a channel from my feed once, it was so bad.

[south ether]

Sob

[south ether]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1488939255022616838/QQ20241002154024.gif

[cunning frigate]

Excuse me, I phrased that wrong
Character that is clearly Study, and calling them identical to hiyori

[inland robin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1457171178065232105/wiggly.gif

[static wraith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1487093330746802266/tvkiss.gif

[rancid cypress]

I love embed spam

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1486451719536906411/boogie.gif

[fresh latch]

just black and white hiyori innit

[fierce beacon]

[fallow plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1486449411897823522/shewasraisedbybirds.gif

[fierce beacon]

Embed spam

[near widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1488557244432777376/6D972AD6C73A5B53D7A000B454B9E52A.gif

[hard kayak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1489389548747231414/catAsk.avif

i bore

[cobalt laurel]

umbrella save us

[hard kayak]

entertain me

[candid hound]

#swarm more devoid of spam than #neurotic-neurons #1743829431273120493123

[fallow plinth]

Umbrella nuke NN.

[neon dust]

Umbrella don't nuke nn

[serene ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1100971410534453299/1100971410878378147/IMG_7837.gif

[south ether]

Discord 100% works great

[fierce beacon]

When I get home I’ll finish off my faction stuff and make a thread I guess

Cause someone asked for that

Also.. I won’t nuke NN

instead I release chemical weapons

[dire pebble]

[ionic holly]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 49 cookies! | I've received 308545 cookies total!

[neon dust]

Erm

[near widget]

monkaLaugh THE MODS ARE WATCHING

[candid hound]

I saw that

[dire pebble]

i feel like you should have seen that one coming

[storm lodge]

That dude is about to nuke himself

[rugged heath]

welp

[near widget]

monkaLaugh CAREFUL

[forest socket]

[rancid cypress]

Erm~2

[lusty lava]

[fallow plinth]

Cloud. Please just destroy NN.

[hard kayak]

[drowsy kiln]

!felloff

[ionic holly]

aww, thank you~ ( ◡‿◡ *)

[fallow plinth]

[night estuary]

Christ I gotta chill I guess really thought I was being good

[rugged heath]

...

[dense shadow]

What the heck

[cobalt laurel]

Neurotoxin release

[crude lintel]

/harpoon @dire pebble

Damn

[hard kayak]

did cloud delete the message or did you delete it

[night estuary]

I did not delete it

[south ether]

Cloud

[fierce beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/glados-portal-portal-gif-portal-memes-portal-2-gif-11385065307004464895

[near widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1384918024708034750/1487235837019029584/EvilADHD.gif

[neon dust]

Anyway, LOOK HERE GUYS

[hard kayak]

damn

[candid hound]

I've not sent this one enough, this is a good one

[analog lava]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1486478235213762570/evilripbozo.gif

[hard kayak]

the lurking mod is real

[candid hound]

Gemini logo

[south ether]

Smh ai gen image

[crude lintel]

IT'S NEURO-SAMA!

[dire pebble]

i'll keep it as a verbal but just don't bypass the filter

[near widget]

do not ai the ai

[fierce beacon]

Okay embed spam makes NN actually unusable

Alright be back later I guess

[vague latch]

She’s so cute!

[hard kayak]

come backk

[rancid cypress]

?

[candid hound]

Good thing there are no mods here to stop the spam

[drowsy kiln]

Which is worse, that or slowmode?

[dire pebble]

ban vedal

[candid hound]

[neon dust]

I got fooled by a twitter post

[fierce beacon]

I prefer slowmode to embed spam

[south ether]

Cloud can you ban ai images pls and thx

[dire pebble]

yep, no mods here

[crude lintel]

Neuro starting her Anime Protagonist arc

[crude lintel]

Mods are dead

[neon dust]

@south ether what about this?

[rancid cypress]

Ban everything except text in NN

[night estuary]

Look I get avoiding controversial topics, but that felt strong.

Ok i know bypassing filters is bad. I really just wanted to address it in a clear but inoffensive way and thought it was small enough it'd be fine.

[near widget]

all mods were harpooned yesterday

[crude lintel]

Mods are asleep, post NeuroSpin!

[dire pebble]

anywayyyyyy, move embed spam to #swarm pls thanks

[south ether]

Why are you white

Buh

[neon dust]

Camila....

[chilly thorn]

[candid hound]

You can't just ask someone that

[west tusk]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-1575

[south ether]

White name smh

[cunning frigate]

Okay bye NN I'm gonna watch some brainrot

[near widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1384342324699594802/nugget.webp

[cunning frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1371882394524712970/1394631865964691476/3dgifmaker20414.gif

[dire pebble]

i understand addressing it, but if we allowed bypassing the filter we might as well not have one

[neon dust]

I drew it myself

[south ether]

Wait can I harpoon myself

[west tusk]

Average ARG fan activities

[neon dust]

Took like a year to do that

[neon dust]

I hope you will dream about turtles

[candid hound]

I rarely have Neuro-filled dreams

[fresh latch]

fuck you

[crude lintel]

I've had a few

[candid hound]

I rarely remember my dreams at all honestly

[hard kayak]

language

[crude lintel]

Not many though

[candid hound]

I've have a couple Neuro dreams I can remember

[south ether]

I have them often tbh

[night estuary]

Fair enough. I get that, it's more of an all enveloping rule that needs to be held up or else it wouldn't mean anything, rather than a takedown of the specific message. I'll try to keep that in mind.

[crude lintel]

Heck

[shut socket]

The only dream I remember now is a ritual of sorts

[pliant wasp]

watch im gonna have a neuro dream right now

[rugged heath]

ok so
where do i go to learn about using the sdk

[hard kayak]

what would neuro say

[shut socket]

It was something

[dense shadow]

I have had a couple of Neuro dreams too.

[neon dust]

OI!

Cloudburst get this man

[rugged heath]

...am stupid. Ok off to the sdk thread

[dire pebble]

if you wanna discuss rule stuff with staff, you can also open a modmail, keeps it out of public chat where it could spiral into an argument yaknow

[night estuary]

Look I am no fan of language moderation but some things should not be said bro.

[dire pebble]

gonna dm vedal and ask him to remove the duck

[fresh latch]

english

[crude lintel]

Please do not the duck

[solid mist]

Too far

[terse fjord]

mods hate when chat unionizes

[night estuary]

Fair enough. But even though id prefer as little.moderation as possible in most.of these.places, I understand why the rule is there, this server isn't the place for those fires.
I also can't imagine I could change anything anyway. I appreciate you responding to me though, communication is always nice. So I will now shut up about it as to not get off topic for too long

[neon musk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/949564743281156117/949564943735357440/FP3RUPEQ79YY1JM1P9.gif

[drowsy kiln]

🍗

[elfin chasm]

onionize

[hard kayak]

we gonna eat good tonight

[crude lintel]

Shrek has entered the chat

[fallow plinth]

https://x.com/i/status/2038250978575815149

Nira || open coms (@FreakyNira)

🚨🚨🚨🚨
#Heartheartart

X · Mar 29, 2026, 1:44 PM

[primal hazel]

Well like yeah, everyone agrees that

Neuro is cute

[crude lintel]

True

[hard kayak]

what about eliv

[fallow plinth]

That duck is looking mighty delicious.

[primal hazel]

Evil is cute

[crude lintel]

Cute too

But also evil

[hard kayak]

[night estuary]

Also my period button is right next to my spacebar on my phone, so often words are separated by them. Mb

[night estuary]

Ive never been super focused on the twins being cute, I just like the funny, but I will say, the faces they make in 3d are adorable

And the jumping

[primal hazel]

More focus on the cute

[fallow plinth]

I'd be a bit more merciful if it was Evil's duck.

[primal hazel]

Funny and cute

[surreal needle]

nuuuu

[leaden steeple]

this is like 3 or 4 days late, but I've dm'd you a few screenshots of the VRC world that I hope helps.

[rancid cypress]

[night estuary]

Dog here then dog gone

[primal hazel]

🍪