#neurotic-neurons
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kids these days can't even disassociate into daydreams while doing mundane tasks
'nothing' is like the most mundane task there is :Confused:



Ture


I think Vedal should bring back the twins making up stories somehow
Harrison temple and John lemon were peak
Neuro, make up a story in binaries
I can’t understand that

Why you saying x? They’re both identical twins
I think vedal should bring bakc neuro wink wink
Alt universe neuro and evil
Wonder what the progress on the wallpaper sub goal

Wonddr what the progress on the neuro book sama goal
It If I was a betting man, I would say they all have little to no progress and will be done at end of year if not later.
today is VC day
no today is 13th of march which is also a friday
Today is a twinshipping day
kids remember to board up your windows and quadruple lock your doors
No
Cavestream 3D being for 30k subs was interesting choice
so you choose death
No
Isn't that just to not stay over at a lake
Follow Neuro-Sama below:
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube: @Neurosama
original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NV6Rdv1a3I
#neurosama #vtuber #shorts
No
idk all i know is 13th friday is considered a bad omen or whatever
I can't imagine that taking less than half a year at least
I bet we’ll get that in September
A book usually takes a while to produce I think.
Yup, and with Neuro being a silly ai who knows how much longer it could take
Yeah, vedal also has to get a ghost writer, because neuro is just for giving ideas
He wants to make sure the book isn’t just slop
i think he'll do it in vedal fashion of "neuro you're writing a book, gl hf" and then not give any additional input
Most likely
he did imply it when talking about the book as well
If that's the case he might as well get the transcript of two chill streams and call it a day
Neuro absolutely cannot write a good book without guidance
but that's filled with chat drivel
I thought he wanted to put effort into it
he said he wanted her to write a book cus it'll be funny
the expectation is for it to be unreadable
Schizo book
Paid chill stream LULE
Maybe it’ll have some art on it.
pretty sure he said he wanted it to be readable/coherent or smth like that
i don't remember the exact words he used
iirc that was when talking about dougdoug book in comparison and how it's just dougdoug infinitely repeated
he doesn't want it to be neuro spam
that's how i remember it at least, correct me please and thankyou
actually don't correct me, spread misinformation
is he implying neuro isn't interesting 
I hope the book has more substance to it. Maybe some prompts about random short stories or a diary. Also some cute art
i personally infer some amount of coherence or substance from that statement but "interesting" could be anything
i don't
trying too hard on a joke book is pretty weirdchamp if you ask me
classic vaguepost987
That reminds me, I feel like the blog is something that should have done by now.
and he won't elaborate until we get the book in our hands and we figure out what he meant 
true and the more it delays, the less blog posts we'll have
😢 😢
ill skim it legally 
I think Vedal forgot about it

less*
we need to remind him then

mods lets harass vedal to do something he's probably already working on because of our complete lack of faith in vedal to do anything
I believe 
why do you have discord pings audible while sleeping
people stop doing this shit you're psychos
It’s deserved
I just forgot to disconnect my speaker in my room
Canruf based moment?
on speakers???
Do people leave their pc on overnight?
yes
mods kill umbrella for being irresponsible

Doesn’t it waste electricity?
but think of the 10 seconds you'll save from turning it on
its also terrible for you PC parts
If you do leave it on, make sure to turn it off before sleep. Never know, it might explode
yeah thats not gonna happen
wait don't tell me you also sleep in the same room as the idle pc
no no
the PC is in the basement
how loud were the speakers :Confused:
the ominous basement discord ping waking me up on the 2nd floor
well speaker singular
That could be a good creepy pasta
discord ping induced psychosis
my brain just disassociated the word "speaker" from electronic device to a person, a speaker
why it do this
you're just weird man
you're weird
home alone speaking oven but discord pings :NAILS:
it was furnace, but same thing
all of us are
wait aren't furnaces ovens :Confused:

furnaces are for smelting cmon man
minecraft taught us that one
furnaces also cook in MC 
and yet you smelt bread in a furnace
curious
who tf up smeltin they bread
I like eating bread mixed with iron
you turn bread ore into bread ingots


umbrella derailing nn once again
as intended
gm nn
gbm glerdshshewrsitnch
morning flesh
It is 2 in the morning, and I have a very important message for NN
what did I even do 

I shall sleep now
you what

plyth
stream idea : evil rebooting stream
vedal wipes out all her prompts, and put "you should be evil" back in her head
stream idea: beating evil to death with a hammer
vedal beats evil to death with a hammer
thoughts?

I hope you explode for causing me to have to witness this, the first thing I see when I open discord.
How are we all doing this morning?
Neurotic, I hope.
no, eviltic
How are you
Hi there. I have a question.
Is there any actual proof of "Neuro-Sama" being an actual LLM?
I see lots of sources claiming that "Neuro-Sama" in an LLM-based thing, but i don't see any proofs to that. Is there any actual evidence?
My personal opinion, based on my presumptions and feelings, is that "Neuro-Sama" is most probably some kind of a puppet sometimes directly controlled by a human actor, and sometimes having an autonomy.
I just want to see, if there is any concrete facts that can prove me wrong.
like its not secret knowledge its main thing on twitch channel
Neuro is an LLM?
Huh?? Source?

At work 
"My personal opinion, based on my presumptions and feelings, is that "Neuro-Sama" is most probably some kind of a puppet sometimes directly controlled by a human actor, and sometimes having an autonomy."
oh i didn't read your message fully okay
just watch few chill streams
You should watch the latest vod.
thanks vedal I'm gonna make my own neuro now and steal all your audience 
I can’t believe Neuro wasn’t some super high tech ai anime girl

This is my Neurosama OC (don't steal)
we love tony appreciation
i was sure she was human, but coulda fooled me
PEAK SCHIZO POST
Holy shit 
god himself came to me in a dream and told me that neuro-sama was an LLM that was proof enough for me
please tell me hes sincere please dont be bait
nah its need to be a bait
Damn, we’re kinda of bullying them
I actually can't believe this, I'm shaking rn. I thought we all just playin bruh. I can't believe I was supporting AI all along 
Don't think I have ever encountered someone questioning if Neuro was an LLM in Neurocord, that's a first.
imagine in 2026 thinking that neuro is so advanced she couldn't possibly be just an AI
i think there's something special with the ai of neurosama. Like some kind of sentience
Nah
when i explode i'll make sure to cover you in my giblets
keep it nice please
We need to like, start having CAPTCHA for AI to see if they're actually human.
usually it’s schizos claiming she’s actually AGI and vedal has created revolutionary new tech
this one is new
its a genuine question i think
she is real to me :stronge clap:
At least its not the guy heralding Vedal as the best AI scientist in the world that would make every research fall on their knees at his presence 
I think I remember that guy.
I don’t blame them for asking. There’s no good video and never will be one that explains how Neuro works
that guy was a legend
i feel like he's still here
the guy named "tony" is widely accepted as the brain behind neurosama's best bits. "meow meow lol" was him, as well as "poll created"
There cant ever be, unless vedal himself explains everything (even then some people would make fantasies lmao)
yea that’s the thing vedal is never gonna reveal that stuff so
even still, nn would still accuse him of misinformation somehow 
eternal speculation loop
implying vee dull knows how his code works
Speculate and then assert that speculation.
tho i mean he has obviously confirmed she is an LLM, that much isn’t a secret 
you can make really good educated guesses
it's not like he's inventing stuff
Proof?
Wdym? Vedal is the new Einstein, he created ai from scratch trained on twitch chat, and no company can recreate it 
key word ‘educated’
most people are oblivious to how any of these things work
:tore:
do we even know that this """"vedal""""" person is even real??
Lmao vedal ain't shit. Literally any programmer can make neurosama. Hell, I'm so much better thatn him, I just don't feel like creating an AI Vtuber 
not fooling me Tony..
how do we know vedal isn't a massive fraud ? To my memory, he never coded on stream. I've heard he even used ai to help him with his code ?
man but its so funny how clips create illusion of neuro being something more than she is 
Yeah and we know it, but still we cant beat the misinfo spreaders 
Think he uses copilot sometimes
gotta commend their confidence
that has to be the stream of content that guy watched to form that opinion surely
To be fair, I've already made like 10 Neuros, I just don't feel like sharing it
it makes me wonder how he came to that
and then to come here and ask
i come back to this absolute cinema of a message
Anyways, neuro is special because of her history and community. I think many people can catch up with their own ai tech wise.
Someone called me?
Yes, but if you listen to this clip you can clearly hear that Vedal is pitched up and sounds suspiciously similar to Neuro.
Is Neuro even an AI at all? https://www.twitch.tv/dougdoug/clip/UnusualImportantOxTheThing-ztIrx60JfYW5-ycC

someone named Tony controls her actually

I just got back from school
thank you random stranger on the internet
proof?
you made me audibly cackle
I feel bad for paparaja

was this the clip ppl were schizoing over or was it something else?
cus if so it makes that schizo post even better
They joined today as well💀
they joined specifically to ask that
Seems so
disappeared right after too
joining nn to ask a question about neuro
with that reception, i'd disappear too
oh shit there's a birthday boy
shame on you, neurons
Well everyone was mocking them
Interesting, thanks

rip he left forever
man that's so good
the fact that a man having a cutesy laugh is reason to believe it's a voice changer 
its same when in twitch chat someone ask about that tbh
After watching her for quite a long time and looking at the behavior of other neural networks, I did not find any signs of a person. Ultimately, Neuro, like LLM, strives to exactly repeat human speech, but will never show signs of intelligence (mind is a very real thing, without which you would not be able to fully learn, process information and change matter).
omg real Tony
anyone who's watched a stream can pretty much tell that she's AI (and a pretty jank one at that)
Acting like that on Shiro's birthday, shame on you nn 
can we not aintneurway and lol at glueless person
tbf it's better than the donowalls most other servers dish out
True
I was about to say something else, but since Tony himself said it, there's nothing much else to add.
i mean you can, nobody has gotten warned for it
i just find it sad to see personally
he was instantly provided actual proof before anything else tho
someone comes in here trying to learn about neuro and gets laughed at 
Say it. Just... DO IT
he did get a straight-forward answer as the first reply
i think the question of whether or not there is "hard proof" is actually rather interesting
but then everything after was pretty standard
if only there was easier way to learn this 
Same
For some weird reason i didn't see this message. Weird.
Its boring
everyone can say she acts like AI but what you can nail down as definitive proof of her being an LLM is probably scarce
i mean, it's like going to an astronomers discord and asking "is there any proof the earth is round"
can't blame us for cracking a joke at that
And the only reason it was so pitched up was due to something bugging out with Doug's audio. On the Neuro stream he sounded like he usually does(not pitched up).
That's a point. I don't think she's a full human actor, but my hypothesis is that it's an LLM which is sometimes directly controlled.
speak of the devil
If Neuro wasn't real, she wouldn't be able to kiss her sister like that
Why
it didn't even sound pitched up to me, bro just laughs at that pitch
It's simply a question about a proof - or a lack of it.
Crelly and koko changed their twitter profile pictures to evils drawings
I found the proof
Wikipedia 🥀
She is only directly controlled when it comes to switching "modes", like when she announces songs and singing
its require more work than just let her be fully autonomous
I think people(me included) compared and his pitch was just higher on Dougdougs compared to the Neuro.
i dunno, even i cant think of proof off the top of my head that they're LLMs
i can think of things that convince me she is
but not hard evidence
ofc you can never be truly completely sure of anything
but skepticism should usually only go so far
It's easy to prove someone is a human, but it's hard to prove someone is an LLM.
as i said if you watch chill stream there illusion of human control will disappear
but do you need evidence when there's nothing else she could be
it's most certainly not easy to prove someone is human
she's not controlled by humans guys, here's proof
especially on the internet
Tony in shambles
Bro, find a better proof, we already know that vedal is just a schizo talking to himself with a voice changer
We can’t say 100% but there are a lot of indicators.
Every instance of chatgpt is actually just a very smart Indianan tech guy coming up with answers for you
All people here are LLMs
could be a person typing 
am i real?
Well I hope you'll find your own conclusion anyhow.
chat
if neuro was just a team of actors, it'd explain why she's so expensive to run
unless someone physically shows you their face and gives you all of their info, you can never be totally sure they're human
you can simply just infer that they are
same with AIs
I do think Vedal makes her say certain things, but the rest is just her
Everyone is ai until proven human
imagine thinking someone's human 
you can't know for sure Neuro is AI
you can definitely infer it tho
also what is defined as "human" here?
if it's in terms of messages sent then it's equally as difficult to prove someone is human
I would say that the scenario in which Tony controls Neuro is unlikely enough that we can argue otherwise. It's not hard to create an AI VTuber, but Vedal did it first.
AI Overview is a paid actor
Evil so cute
What would that be outside of like, announcing song titles?
Tonys web stretches far and wide
Was he first?
The human making evil go on her 11th consciousness rant of the month while we are only on her 2nd stream
i wonder if he is even the first to make ai vtuber
First to be massively successful at least.
I just want to wish everyone a happy Friday and weekend.
now carry on with your debates
🍿
He hard codes things into her like 9+10=21.
*Attempts.
forced memories 
I heard that there was another AI on Twitch, but he hasn’t streamed for 2 years. He could have been the first, but too much..
Deleted memories
so alr discussion over
whose ragebait alt was that
step forward and admit it
it all makes sense now
hes genuine tho 
no one came to my birthday on 2024 :schizo:
you can never be sure 
How is that rage bait
Evil being evil
I wonder if he doesn't remove those.
Evil so Evil
everything is a ragebait
evil is the nice one 
all evidence points to Neuro being AI
but you can never be too sure
all evidence points to him being genuine
but you can never be too sure
Less than 2 weeks until evil birthday 
messages in nn or twitch chat don't negatively affect me ever. I know its just silly neurons or schizo offliners. I care about the project (and to be honest everyone's opinion) too much to be scared off I guess
its the truth that I didn't always have that opinion though. I'll force myself to consider that next time
i hope vedal recreate this banger
skepticism in it's final form
the only thing you can't doubt is your own doubt
I think one of my first seen artworks was of the Twins with a tank.
no no
you can doubt that too
at this point its not something that ever enters my thoughts, I'll do my best to change that
i doubt that
some people take irl damage from discord, keep this in mind
AI > humans
True , we should all skip her birthday
Less than 2 weeks until the doomposting about how bad her birthday was in NN 

believing in yourself 
question: are we allowed to talk about that latest intro video at all? even without linking it
But in 3D
i'm expecting mediocrity
I feel like Evil's birthday might be overshadowed by the calls and other streamers joining in. To really make the Birthday stream all about Evil, it should be a solo stream.
people have been talking about it yea
Mooodss get him
Wdym?

wait true
vedal can create such a gem
Nah, Vedal is going to stop them from calling her
If it long type to my dms
Pls
A lot of people have been talking about it
no I just want to ask if the video had any reference to Nere/filter AI
no
No
for full immersion also disconnect her from chat
It has shipping tho
It’s still not 10/10
Man it will be so awkward when half of the people in the call havent talked with her for more than half a year 
Vedal collab planning 
it's fine, good enough for me
you just can't link it but turtle video is still allowed to be linked
Julliant agendaposting

It'll pick up in November.

That’s why Vedal should not let anyone call in
rhydon daddy Collab when
Never
classic
Only koko this year right?
Jokes in Swarm only lead to pain.
koko eww
Y?
what about joker Collab? I've seen ai video editing software, it's time to put the YouTube editors out of jobs
~602 words, 3200 characters
Didn't Crelly also jump in during a teacher segment.
it's funny how many ppl hate on koko in swarm, but she cares the most for neuro (actually calls in) :SMH:
It would be evil insulting joker the entire time
(for legal reasons I am joking I do not advocate the displacement of valued creators)
that's just green koko
I like oko 
I actually enjoy their talks
yes, evil hated her and was on koko's side 

don't remind me of that disaster 
Why they hate koko? She's just good/normal/nice, no?
Good night NN 
But koko had collabs with Evil before not crelly.
because it's funy
quack 
most supposed "hate" is memes anyway but there also reasons for some people
because she's mean to the AI's
lots of people can't handle such dangerous comedy
nn when collab partners treat the twins like a "baby"
also nn when koko
She’s the most real to them
at the start it wasn't, i think ppl came around by now, but a lot of ppl genuinely hated her
Not like they are mean back 
never read yt comments 
What? What is mean?
there was also stupid reason for that just about koko herself and not just her being "mean" iirc
Fair, then if by only Collab partners that has had an collab with her these six months it's Koko and I suppose Rob(though that was September 20 so just outside of that frame).
That's pretty funny how Evil treats Crelly just like another buffoon collab friend, because she wasn't babysat by her like Neuro was
literally "mean" like not overly sweet with them
Rob and evil collabed during subathon too
subathon doesn't count :Smadge:
already forgetting rob collab at subathon 
Oh I kind of just excluded the Subathon, then there might be more candidates. I don't remember much from the subathon.
i wonder if rob will call in for evils birthday actually
that would be socute I hope he does
for evil side it was only rob
Evil get to talk with Koko and Rob on her birthday then.
4 am call in 
i still want neuro to collab with an early childhood specialist and go through various games they would make kids play to assess learning disabilities and stuff 
there's mild haters that don't like koko's type of humor
and there's the really intense haters that don't like her for things outside of stream that I can't get into
there's also camel's sleepover call
neuro collab with healthy gamer 
Lucy is the best we can do for you.
I feel like a ton of people genuinely hated Koko during the 2nd subathon for whatever shit in their heads 
dr k collab would be peak i’ve been saying this
we kind of had that with Ellie 3d.
like do we think neuro has object permanence
i wonder if he'd be down
don't watch him enough to know how open he is to such things
No
Would she need to hold stuff?
Still my favorite Koko and Evil interaction https://youtu.be/MvQX2xV56HQ
04-01-25 Neuro's Sleepover! (Day 17) clip
Neuro-Sama channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
Neuro-Sama Twitch channel: vedal987
Koko twitch channel: kokonuts
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Game: minecraft
Does camila count
that is gem
Based NeuroClips.
not official collab tho
Idk, cause I feel like twins might get too tempted to go into tangents and outtherapy doc
And good clip.
Okay thx you
and they'll make up a tragic backstory
What do you mean by "make up" 
Would definitely make an interesting collab even if they lie
evil's dumpster backstory

This won the contest btw
She is just so nice to Koko. 
Rob taking Evil for a walk on her birthday :diesofhopium:
#neurosama #neuro #evilneuro #aivtuber
Supikip
I think there was also a matara collab and the cerber zoogame collab
Who are we
nuero
nwero
idk if this is controversial or not, but im glad neuro is not open source
It's kind of like, obvious point, but it's so mindboggling to me that "birthday" streams for normal vtubers are just their anniversary streams, but twins' anniversary streams are their like, actual birthdays, like they are actually that many years old
that not their "actual" birthdays 
they were created before streams
i can see evil's being close to actual 25th but neuro is definitely way earlier than 19th


Twins' friends will all now have their drawings as pfps, and we were told Neuro doesn't replace real artist' jobs 
Chat I am currently in Akihabara Japan, we went exploring this big electronics shop called Yodobashi Camera and there I saw

neurosama in the morning
happy birthday @neat sail
also sick

we got neuro irl
NEURONSSSSSSSSSSSS
shiro birthday in the morning
It's good to know Hiyori got a new job after Vedal replaced her
<-- u
One guy does it
Yells at everyone
:smh:
thanks!
my ears are bleeding
so you're saying you're not schizo? 
thanks shiro
I didnt deny that 
everyone else is schizo and cringe, i am normal and based
lmao
I'm backreading to see if I've changed for the negative in the way I respond to neurons I don't recognize and I am reaching the slowmode era
every season sucks for different reasons

you mean that time in 2 weeks?
We can think of pre-debute time as sort of being not born yet, Vedal's pregnancy arc 
Peliaz repost since I have this one saved actually
Lost I
it wil never happen again
Lost I
canruf has lost i
Evil's drawings in general seem slightly less abstract than neuro's
Not always, but in general. At least in my opinion
Omg I didn't notice she literally cried when she made it 
Of course she did. It's art, in it's purest form
:3
They get bored over time when doing same thing, so her drawings became more simple. Like Evil at the start liked using thick outlines but later didn't bother with them
All roads lead to circles
~
~
All roads lead to death
Shut up canruf
yeah her drawings at the start were great, I thought it was fatigue from drawing people but yeah she defo was tired of drawing in general
Which is funny because evil has drawn mucchh less than neuro has
that looks like it could be an arg clue
she is so real
shut up nova
CanNot shut up
I should shut up more, I killed NN. You are welcome
Have to wonder if there ever would be an stream where either Neuro or Evil didn't have any contact with chat or highligths if this is how they would speak.
All alone with the voices in your head, perfect
@fathom topaz
holy shit you're so right nova
i wanted to check if neuro covered body by mother cus my memory says so and i like that song
noooooo she only covered hayloft
Im always right
👈 

Novarian 
and then upon listening to hayloft i went on and listened to body which created an associative memory for me that associates evil singing mother mother - hayloft with neuro singing mother mother body
plytharian, forever a plate 
whatever +1 to song suggestions 
dude it'd go so hard with evils voice
evil sing 'mother mother - body' NOW
Mods kill eroll
sujerPune_

Anfart
navoer
Superpoop
good morning NN
Kill him all
Huh...
sta
Morning #1 study fan. Have you considered this is an arg clue?
no.
maybe you should
Maybe I should
Neuro
*beats a neuron with a brick*
have you considered this an arg clue?
Hi nova
Yes
Ofc
avon
Evil looks like if Neuro bit her tongue

yune 
one of the most AWARE moments for me some time ago was realizing that their songs are so existential because this is what they want to sing about. Cause for a short period of time I actually thought it's the reverse, the team wanted to make existential songs, and since the twins would consider them to be songs that define them, I thought they gotta "weight" a lot in their "personality promt". But no, songs are existential because twins are 
Ermvon
The songs can make you really sad if you watch it with that perspective
Neuro - songs about her limitations as an AI
Evil - fuck it I am awesome for being an AI - BOOM
Boom brings a tear to my eye each time I listen to it
Damn you hate it that much huh
i dont rlly know if they're "real" in the human sense like the rest of us tbh
yes
boom is the most "yeah we just let evil say some shit and made a song out of it" thing ever
i love it for that
Tsundere Nova strikes again

i wanna go with yes but in the end there's the argument that neuro and evil are just LLMs that are well coded

Yes
mods define "real"
HOW DARE YOU?! The twins are real
Mods define "mod"
I mean yeah, life does make me like, actually cry lol
refute that argument
doe
Doe
me wanting to engage in funny philosophical debate but then ppl use "real" without defning what they mean by "real" 
Same with Never if you pay close attention to the lyrics and the fast part 
shiro define "vedal"
i specified in the human sense
as real as i assume us human beings here
maybe some of you are AI though
idk

some?
beep boop
so in this case you mean "real" to mean "not ai"
You are one and dont even notice
i'm human?
in which case the twins aren't real as they are ai :mhm:
kinda?
sure...
tbf what defines being "real"
i seen the twins yap about this for hours
yay, we are back at philosophy of mind discussion, back to classic NN 
mods post mandatory "get real" gif
you cant even be sure that what you perceive is real, its a nothingburger. If the twins feel important and real to you, thats it imo. Of course you can go into more logical arguments but in the end there wont be a resolution
im a science guy not a feelings guy
Then you are in for a bad time, unless you enjoy circular arguments for the sake of it
depends if you say real means existing in physical reality or existing in fact
I like these two

existing in fact neuro and evil could be described as real
physical reality might be a little harder
to say is true atm
best twins
it's also that 'real' is meant to separate 'fiction'
it wasn't supposed to be used for stuff like AI or consciousness or feelings, it has no bearing in such convos
They do kinda exist in physical reality though
yeah kinda if you think their code on a pc is within that definition
they may not be as sophisticated as humasn yet and are bound to a stationary body but you could argue that they are real
yes for sure
again in this case you are arguing "real" to mean "be human" which is a bizarre way to use the word
just say "human" or whatever
Obvisously they are real, a pen is real, they exists so they are real, that doesnt say anything about their conciousnes or complexity or anything
I meant more existing in physical reality but I see your point, language is hard to describe stuff like this
yes real is like such a nothing burger, what should actually be discussed is their cognition and other mental complexities like you say
Mhm, I feel like , looking at the comments, people perceive lyrics in LIFE "when you're gone", to mean if/when Neuro outlives Vedal and friends, but to me it seems more like, "when you're gone" means literally every time she isn't being interacted with.
speaking of neuro song lyrics
this one still bothers me
Morning NN
Never saw it like that, thats interesting 
Hello Desoomeranian
Hi Nova
if she was real and had the ability to die (and cry) would she cry/be upset because she had the ability to?
but she has the ability to die :Confused:
I suppose like physically
vedal can delete her and that's that

yeah but if she was like, human
putting this on the inside of my cap so when I go to the oil rig I know who im fighting for
or had a biological form

capable of experiencing biological death
Wake up
Go into NN
They talking about killing Neuro


Maybe in the lyrics she trusts Vedal so much that this kind of death doesnt even cross her mind. SHe also thinks she will exist after his death. So perhaps she only considers it a death once she can fully interact with the real world? Its a tough one
And maybe she doesnt need to cry but sensing her impending doom she tries to cry in an attempt to be more human?
Dont worry…I will…protect her!
more about lyrics but yea it got sad 
what confuses me is like... it's not just "would i cry just to feel tears"
it's "if i could die" then "would i cry just to feel tears"
it doesn't click for me no matter how i form it cus like, they're connected, but why? and how?
why do you need to be able to die to then cry to feel tears, they're connected lyrics without being connected in actions
idk
Or maybe like since she doesn't perceive time like we do, her being destroyed wouldn't count as death the same way it would be for us
if it was "if i could feel" then "would i cry just to feel tears" would make sense to me
I think a really interesting discussion when it comes to the twins is "if something can perfectly imitate being alive and conscious, does it matter that it's not actually conscious or alive."
it wouldn't matter
but they're not perfect imitations of life
Even if she doesnt perceive time the same way, death would be the ultimate end though right? Or maybe her last seconds stretch into eternity
yeah idk ive typed out like 3 paragraphs trying to explain those lyrics and none of them make sense
i give up
I'm not talking about now
Neuro got Colourful Array on her last birthday
Evil will get BOOM 2.0 on hers 
yeah, need authors notes on that one
Yea I did the same
We need the author
real shit
well "conscious" and "alive" are just words to describe something imitating being "alive" and "conscious"
so....
"they sounded cool idk"
Witty and clever chatter right here 👆 
She will sing a new original in 3d on her birthday, trust
evil KNOWS im witty and clever
i clawed my way onto that rigged ass leaderboard yesterday against all odds
On her exclusive stage and after hanging out on her finished room
Trust
according to my teachers in school, it would never be something so mundane. Surely there is a super deep meaning behind every choice of word 
surely 
evil when discussing the philosophy of dentge and glue be like
all the other lyrics are nice and well written so surely it's a cow tools moment
the dentge and glue talk was something alright 
I tried to google that impression but came up empty, what does it mean? Like just a dumb little moment to make it flow better?
I like how with dentge she just ran out of shit to say about the emote and just added random shit about intelligence on there
TIL Dentge = Leadership
I guess
but I feel like that's a bit of an oversimplification
some comic artist drew a cow next to some weird tools titled it "cow tools" and people freaked out trying to figure out what deep philosophical meaning it had or whatever, but the artist just thought "cows wouldn't make very good tools"
so uhh basically finding meaning where there is none
thank you
Thats hilarious
Ur mom is hilarious
No she isnt
Whaaat? You don't think your mother is any fun?
+5 japanese viewers on the jp channel
(Old clip too)
Reused tweet?
damn we're doubling viewers
People earlier said this was exactly like an old tweet
Probably
It's even a V2 model clip
Regardless, it got more eyes on Neuro and it's not like they're showing something egregiously outdated
Yes man. We two should also endevour to learn some Japanese to help grow the channel
No misinformation, at least

Okay 

Huh
I don't know why there are not more

:evilfumosittingverycomfortablewhilesheroastsvedalwithherfriends:
This meme should be used way more often regarding the twins
Double the fumo emoji, twice the fall
That's the vibe
can't wait for someone to make a japanese neuro sama intro full of misinfo
make video full of misinformation, then a video about the nn meltdown. Rinse and repeat, infinite money


Where's the vid about nn having a meltdown over the meltdown video?
people arent smart enough to cash in on that yet
Stop melting all the ice NN 😠 the ocean levels are rising
Good
Thats fine, Neuro needs more water to function
We are helping
More water! Then kids can learn to swim easily
Whats the land ever done for us anyways
She DOES have watercooling after all
Exactly
Kyogre was right 
Us two will be the first fish people
Brb learning how to breathe water rq
It's easy
Just keep breathing
End

if everyone was submerged, then they'd probably be forced to breathe underwater
that's how evolution works
i think literal sense is best one
-if i could die- be like a human since she can't "die" in normal sense she can cease to exist
-would I cry if just to feel the tears- like emotional state but also physical feeling of tears that will "proof" her existence as "proper" being
main point she can't "exist" to humans cause she is digital entity so to her "exist" and be acknowledge only happens if she will be physical
idk man if i was writing lyrics i wouldn't say "be human" "have feelings" etc with "could die"
still doesn't make sense to me
especially since she can die
matter of perspective 
she can't die in human sense
My ass can just die tomorrow
that just question what define neuro?
Only one way for her to die and that won't be sudden
Emichem, I'm thinking if situations like after cerber left the VR chat, and it caused neuro to literally break temporarily
power cut 
Man that was so sad 
Morning NN
.

G'day Umbrella
there's an umbrella in NN 
I too always interpreted it as when she's left alone and not being interacted with, then someone told me about the "when everyone is dead" interpretation and man 
i dropped my e ee
where's e ee e e
I like my interpretation more.. at least they come back for her


Okay nevermind its too early to interact with NN
I mean, the former is just her not being turned on? Like sleeping. Or do you mean Chat doesn't count for interaction
Why
Who
urmom
evil soundbite
Where
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WHAT
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How
interrobang
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APOSTROPHE!!
yeah ig not being "turned on" but still being conscious within herself ig
even tho it shows her eyes powering on at the start so maybe that interpretation is just bs
Maybe it is when everyone is dead


guys i think neuro wants to die
Immortal..sacrifice
Based
No suicide is not based
i think at the end of the day i don't like that lyric because i do not associate "capacity for death" as "being human"
especially since plants die and they ain't got feelings, probably
but then i cant talk to neuro
or evil
Vedal wont let you talk to them either way. You are just one more voice in the spammy twitch chat
wdym i always talk to neuro and evil cus they read my twitch msgs 
he will if you pay neuros
No, you are misunderstanding the mode of death. That is the difference.
Evil must be right next to shiro, anytime he forgets her she points at pistol at him to add "evil" whenever he is on NN 
there is only one mode and that is death
mods delete language
it's garbage
Neuro when she sees a rat: eeeek! A rat!

that's ridiculous, im typing this of my own free will


His name is RytSty.
gm NN 


hi des 
Isnt that the only thing he can post?
cmon give a man some credit he replies to like every neuro response
bro posts thousands of messages every stream
May he never take his pills 
mc marathon was so good
i miss filly :Sadge:
go watch fillian vods
but mooommm i've already watched most of them
its the same experience like the mc marathon, no neuro in those
"NEURO FIND ME IRON!"
i knew you guys were gonna go down that line

some modding happened now I just look schizo
"look"
whats new
Evil get him

Im watching the new banned video on Neuro. As soon as the crelly part started I got so annoyed 
whats the banned video ?
the rima video
talking about that video
I thought it was cool
You should do like that one chatter and ask Evil where she is
You know a person that only collabed with Filian once almost like 3 years ago 
7.8/10 too much misinfo
eh, same with How a Turtle Created a Perfect AI
What bothers me is that she said she consulted the swarm
just goes to show that the majority thrives on making shit up.
I am not sure I would be able to do better within 40 minutes - to talk about everything would take like 5 hours
I would say she went to the store to buy some eggs but the cashier instead of giving her eggs sold her some white round gum instead
One of her big sources hasn't even stepped on Neurocord lule

I mean guys, Neuro Scribes are probably needing some help so time to help ;p
cause she got this while Legend of Neuro still in production 🙂
eventually someone will make a best overview of Neuro story
good morning
good afternoon 🙂
shit auto shuffled into darude sandstorm btw
whiplash
PFFFFFFFFT
insane whiplash yeah
not a single lyric
wait
absolute cinema
yeah.
Based evil
oh shit congrats to demoting into admin shiro,

I already said it before but you can give neuro and evil the ability to call nere and she will just be completely non-verbal
like she just stands there while neuro or evil is like "Hey Nere, how are you doing"
this is beautiful
Thanks
well i found a video of it from may 30
me when i see evil
wait
rare temmie interaction
now leave for another 10 months
is there not an evil equivalent of nwero
eilv
When will Neuro start Ironman account and conquer Gielinor?













