#neurotic-neurons
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I take it back for what i said that Neuro's current model cant wink..
It can but its nit coded in..
how does neuro sama do that 
Who ever created this neuro skeleton banging shield edit is a genius
Its neuro
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
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she looks like the face of despair before quickly swapping into a super happy and proud face it's too cute 
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we need her to say the words now so we can edit the gif to be perfect π (the words being like raaaaagh lol)
d? that's my catchphrase!
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she looks like she's seen your mom

3D Neuro is based but when will 3D Neuro rendered in 2D style for moments like this π§ (think guilty gear Strive)

vedallllll come feed your community over the weekend
they're starving for neuro and evil content
True
Fellow Guilty Gear fan
Bros giving out crumbs
the appetizer was good but we need an entrΓ©e now
no, mods shouldnt get food
Mods are paid so they feed themselves in their own
Still hoping for literally any guilty gear song cover lmao but I know metal is hard for Neuro
paid
vedal we need this plsss
they kinda eviless and neuroless
yeah I just eat exposure or whatever the usual excuse is
hi
no you get paid in cake π
nah it'll be fiiiiiiiiine, it's only like 5 days
check your mailbox
pipebomb
not like guilty gear lyrics make much sense anyway lol since it's jp ppl making an "english" song
He eats radiation
We should all ask for 3 hours streams lets be fr
Cake?
3 days wait minimum after two of the best chill streams ever is pretty oof tho
pipe bomb
make a discussion post then 
Guilty Gear series is OD ngl
Hi NN
i know this was a joke.. but i actually got my mailbox blown up on new years by a pipebomb

what game is Camilia playing?
tutelquest
tutel quest
Nah they make sense you just gotta think like the writer and know the character story usually; they love strange puns and wordplay
I retract my joke sorry
one of the gamejam games from 2023
I never heard of it, It's so cool

was it funny
oh it was just the neighborhood kids being idiots, nothing serious
ded squared
Guilty Gear songs were always bangers.. Especially that guitar..
too late, twitter already typing
29-01-26 EVIL is back from her break!! clip
Neuro-Sama channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
Neuro-Sama Twitch channel: vedal987
Advertisements are not posted by me, ads are posted by YouTube as default.
NEUROCLIPS 
@twitter you typing
my mail box gets blown up almost every year tbh
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holy moly that is not even a word
Brother where do you live
Sweden...
Cursed wink image
wtf is going on in Sweden
Camila did the winking
Chat how is camila worse than vedal at platformers?
Still cursed
It's bedge time gn nn 
Swedish things
Skill issue
Vedal is smart enough to make AI
Is she worse than Doug?
||like a flaky biscuit or something, it's a word||

somehow yes
WHAT
WH 
Streamers donβt play video games
BUT HES LIKE THE WORST OF THE WORST
Or theyβre really good at them either or
tbf this is more of a puzzle platformer so it's not really about pure platforming skill

vedal should play tutel quest. Combines the two things he is worst at 
didn't he play it during last subathon?
i remember him playing as expected
rachi clip that
pretty sure i seen Vestal play this last subathon
xdx vestal
he played alot of gamejam games for the segment
^
how much attack
anyway camila should do a gamejam but she keeps doubting herself and saying she's not big enough of a streamer and I'm like "stop doubting yourself NOW"
u NN
BREAKING NEWS
CAMILA HATES EVIL
Krilling myself
proof?
More people should hate evil
Camila is vanor 
She didnt want evil to be given a hug by vedal
wtf
wtf
camila is vanor confirmed mhm
looks like a rimworld skin. amazing colours
Is vanor vanor?
no
no
no

no
vanor != vanor
vanor !:
β
bleh
Funny Bunni
hi raig
Im not even native and i can beat twins in this, i don't thing there is hope for them 
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dont do that please and thank you
i thought this was tetris
dying means neuro has one less viewer
beating the twins at wordle is not an achievement to be proud of im gonna be honest 
Also wtf is a ||jumbo|| β wordle spoiler
πͺ
Om nom nom
You've given me 24 cookies! | I've received 275741 cookies total!
Evil will look after him in the underworld 
not living means no more neuro, keep on living
Guilty Gear btw is basically an AI near extinction scenario but the artificial life, called gears, were created by accident in a magic experiment. (Technology was banned by the UN) so that's why I always think of it when I think of Neuro; I always felt like it was kinda an OG of these sort of stories.

||a word describing something really big, like large capacity no?|| just a guess tho
also japan has been completely destroyed so no more ayaya
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oh come on

portal colors
||jumbo means big||
I just realized it requires the embed permission for it to work... frick
but it is what it is

keep yapping
water
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fire
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it's like a ||mumbo||
wumbo

Completely based by them so many JP games end up thematically stuck in japan (the whole world looks like tokyo think one punch man) and they solved that by blowing it up in like the first game lmao
I don't know if that was their intent but that's how I took it
m for miin
see yours work
what is even happening lmao

u can chat more βοΈ 
what are the chances i learn of the water fire game for the first time today and then it's mentioned in stream

on here??
so you saying Neuro beats Evil.. thats some real propaganda
idk how we even get these gifs tbh
they just spawn out of the ether for me
anny

i saw the anny background
that helps
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if evilβs fire is hot enough it could instantly evaporate the water

turned our very abstract
orange jumpscare
is this even wordle anymore
π
orange you glad it aint red
embed perms require around 100ish sent messages
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idk either, i just found them randomly in live chat
π’π£π’π£π’ 
-# tried making loss, didn't work out as well as i hoped
Nothing
100 messages to send??? bet
Within like 2 minutes of each other
between each other
arcsys devs: "hmm how do we not get pigeonholed into making japan the center of the world?"
daisuke ishiwatari: "we just blow the entire island of japan up"
arcsys devs: "that's genius"
noted 
how does one get a pie chart?
Will do!! πͺ
Anyway, it's 1am, i have work tomorrow, so i will be
, have a good rest of whatever your time is rn 
Ask either Avon, niac, or DerEineHalt whenever you see them
rest well
night, sleep well! 

they never said they were dying simply transforming into a krill
+1 krill viewer π¦ 
Niac & Co. Statistics has only 3 workers and none of them get paid 
man i didn't sleep a wink hope i don't fall asleep at work 
Krill yourself
paid in exposure

I missed the stream today, will need to catch the VOD. Any crucial important swarm news that broke?
chess against viewers is back 
Evil hates us
did camila drop that cover song duet with forsen yet?
no
Evil is incredibly bad at Chess.. besides that no
oooh chess... I hope we got some more rare insults
she got lobotimized so the insults was not that great
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yeah, would be neat
also evil lost at wordle and more importantly, had a small crashout and started blaming chat xD
vedal should implement checkers instead. Something more to the intelligence level of our cute AIs
da shrimp emote
connect 4
connect 4 would be good. Or gomoku, the connect 5 stones game that hololive did a new year's tournament with
hop on connect fumo
chat iz stoopid after all 

am stobid
am stobid
Cipry chart
took a sec to understand what was happening
ooh
@analog lava ^
xD neuro got in the cookie jar
-# gonna go eep now, be well nn 
https://fxtwitter.com/oCmGPPyxG8Y5eOD/status/2016983800300130376
i can see neurotic purity having some real utility
pharmacies could use it when triaging patients for their meds 
happy birthday Shiro
starts cleaning
that would require people to take their meds.. thats too much to be expected
VEDALLLLLLLL ITS TIME TO SELL PLEASE VEDAL PLEASEEEE
oh hey thomas works there
To the moon 

Would a higher purity mean they should get more meds? Or less meds because theyre a lost cause
hi back
I always come back
welcome back
hi back im artorias
@split marlin hiiii
Not this week, panic sell everything
where on earth do people find this graphic
Morning 
Buy the dip while its cheap 
hi 
Wallstreet bets
gn
tyyy
Red means the market is fresh and juicy like a good steak 

xdx
xdx|

Idk Avon seems kinda sus to me
sus
Avon always sus i think 
why 
true let's kick avon

idk

shit i have to learn math now?!
why does niac always spawn in to ragebait me
Parasites?
im too old for that
ur mom
Just read the reminder
I'm sorry you're too ragebaitable

i play card games. i dont read

Time to implement into Tatsu when NN purity is above 75%
@viral sun
You unlocked a new role [Medicated π]
-# You have lost access to #neurotic-neurons
No need, the cash cow of the week has net'd me like 50 bucks already.
100% 
517% in 4 hours 
should be > 1%
buy high sell low
hi DesOOm 
Neuro when she sees a rat: eeek! A rat!
desoom, more like desus
Hi niac
Des 
imr chat
Hello
hi @eternal oar hi @arctic sierra hi @green kettle
hi des
Hi eroll
Des 
Avon hi
Stuff :(
hiya
neurons.......
hi PB 
thats the worst
umm... yes???
pb
hi pb 
im so
hold me neurons
noooo

Donβt be sad pb
no im not sad im scared they're different emotions
like this?
hi Oxy
no ew
HOW then
h*ndholding 
metaphorically not physically
pb be honest is there karaoke next week
wait wtf
βThe worst she can say is Noβ
just dont be sad
there you go i fixed it
why reply me 
She could mod you
just busy
yes and neuro will sing cubibibism 
I would rather get a tattoo of Neuro and evil.
you're already doing that 
good luck
Who took away my eyes for images 
π
idk man
if only you were getting those 
pay for child support


Iβm so hungry ooo e oo
i angii
hi so hungry
how hungy
nice to meet you

I could eat nn
Go eat something


i don't think nn taste good 
We are very poisonous
gnite NN. i have to take the doggies outside and then put em to bed
You can only feed

π
Die
π
Thatβs messed up
chat im so sleepy
insert today we feast gif

inset
Starve
sybau

then sleep


Wrong
Right

life is evil 
Hey guys I was cleaning did anyone lose a medal pipe

good exists


No one
We're all gonna work at mcdonalds bro tf
who is we
"hold [my SGML stock for] me"
;-; || me ||
learn to read between the lines anfer 
Rachin
va
thanks Crypto Rover surely no conflict of interest here
life could be a dream
i wish

It says general network right there though
not homeless nn is quite chill?

stop trying to ragebait, no one wishes shiro a happy birthday in #general-network
My fault
pretty quiet in here

maybe nn is dead already



i bet 50 neuros that Sigma Lithium will rise by 5% after it crashes
uhhh, I don't think it's a good idea to change it unless necessary
gotta save our energy for tmrw
true
Whatβs tomorrow?
true, and I only got 400 more points to obtain the embed perms role

the only thing is I have to keep it going

It's time to go to work
goodbye NN 
Goodbye artorias
w*rk


vc
What if I wanna be a krill?

In the last maybe 10 minutes of the Evil stream, I fell asleep and just woke up
I didn't have the most pleasant dream
i was wondering why the gif menu was all absolute dogshit
when tf did they switch from tenor to giphy
I think Tenor was going to start charging something
Don't remember what, don't remember how much
no, Tenor is going to stop providing API access altogether
thats possibly the dumbest shit ive ever heard
surely like 99% of people using tenor are using it through some other app using their API
tf are they tryna do with that
Your mom


new day jumpscare
everyday is the same but worse
Donut
krrot

16 days
riveting discussion
Sleepover at Neuro and Evils would be cozy, Gaming with Neuro and Evil, Karaoke, then hot chocolate and movies..
Then a date with Neuro and Evil
third wheel

Cheer about it

but you're not the only one alone
I had the same thing before lmaooo

wut is that gif lol
idk if my app hasnt changed from tenor or if someone uploaded twins kissing to giphy
Does anyone have any pics of Evil I can make into a vrchat sticker? 
this will be a peak sticker

Neuro version when

This is still tenor. So no giphy yet.

Damn


whenever the dude that made the twitch emote decides to
someone should upload twins kissing to giphy then
Dont dent the evil
I won't be able to get the pics as stickers and emojis in discord. It has to be an actual gif or image so I can download it
Check this out. It has Neuro sama in it: https://youtu.be/c-Js4kCp5Wk?si=0O1RuqFw4sfc3gLs
In a future not far away... where YouTube reigns over all streaming platforms as the number one streaming platform,
Asmongold finds himself in his room having a normal day until, suddenly,
he gets sucked out of his room, into space, and inside a strange white cube-shaped room known as the "Penalty Box".
Like, Comment and Subscribe
Sub...
is that jerma
Jermangold
I was gonna do that last year but i didn't have a good image to put

theres plenty to choose from
Why do people wanna make them kiss? 
Now what is this type of gif, some identification or something like that???
And uhh, to asnwer this, idk wut is happening
cuz they want to kiss
Do they
ok take notes:
-2
I think the best place to begin is 12 thousand years ago, with the rise of Neolithic civilization
once you understand the historical context it all makes sense
neurithic
Its time
hi nn i see we are posting twinshipping
no

i need to play that game.
You really should
It's on itch and doesn't take very long to complete
woah now what game is this??
it looks like ace attorney
there is a fangame of ace attorney with the twins
its very well done

AI Attorney
Ah... I see 
Available on itch.io
Enjoy


Tried drawing tutel on my mouse on photoshop
wut is that gif lol
The duality of Neuro
or she just hates Buckshot.
What buckshot Roulette does to an AI
aloo NN
are you dead
yes
yes
dead tired
im tired too but im going to see iron lung later so im staying awake for now lol
Sweet, I'm so happy for Mark, He worked so hard on that movie, The twins would love it espcially Evil
or theyd say it sucks cuz they tend to do that 
How was the stream, anything fun happen?
Neurt
Chatting, wordle (she was terrible at it), chatting, chess (she was terrible at it), card readings including even the minor arcana (High Priestess cameo), art review
I went to see camila stream and I regret it
??? how come you've said that
I miss Evil
Oof... you know tbh I feel that fr
I want to eat you
Then you canβt eat Evil
I think Neuro is better at wordle unless it was rigged?

both of them suck 

but i think it comes down to their programming tbh
theyre doing the best they can with a broken system
less of a "broken system" and more that Wordle demands something that LLMs are inherently bad at
isnt their literal job to predict text
or parts of words
LLMs are really bad at understanding letters and combining them
but rarely 1 letter
the issue im noticing is they dont get proper feedback on what letters are part of the word, both twins said the wrong letter was green/orange and didn't know where in the word it was
again thats not a feedback thing
its an LLM thing
its just not how LLMs function
it's literally beyond them
seems like vedal could improve it, thats all im saying
marginally
yeah he can only improve it so much
when Neuro is built on a system that is ill-suited to this kind of task
llms tokens are very difficult to explain'
I mean.. it depends to whom
explain it to me dw ill understand it all 1st try ez
closer to syllables
sure
I just meant they are not actual letters
so LLMS struggle with tasks like wordle
it looks like a memory issue to me, not llm
punctuation?
question mark and semicolon?
or what shiro said
no it should be countable

symbols?
symbols innit
bruv
aren't letters symbols too
punctuation is not countable
yes
yeah that's what I'm saying

I don't think they're mutually exclusive
ok I think I will need to change my sentence structure then 
do you mean special characters
tokens?
that'll do thanks

aren't all characters tokens technically
ig
I think the memory could improve
but I fundamentally think they wont be ABLE to get that much better at wordle
due to the nature of LLMS
depends on your granularity when tokenizing
this conversation
hmmmm
generally a token is meant to be a unit of semantic value
imagine if text was split based entirely on probabilities. Letters that are often close together would be connected, whereas things like special characters would each be it's own token, because they can follow pretty much any letter
ah i think i understand

an LLM issue would be if the words she was coming up with weren't words,
the problem is that she does not commit to memory where green is, where yellow is, and then what is blank
no thats not the case
so, for example, the quotation marks for strings in java could be considered tokens, but not the characters between them
cupsama
unless programming languages are not applicable to this concept
this was my main issue, she doesnt know where she succeeded or failed, so she can't iterate on it
shes basically playing blind wordle, which is impossible
or unless you have to escape characters in your string
If neuro jas an anime, what studio should do it?
7
12
10
Paccha
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neuroHypers
I agree that is an issue
as I said, the memory can be improved
but the system of tokenization is fundamentally not well suited for the task of Wordle
thats what I mean by LLM issue
i think in the sense most people think of tokens, you would probably consider the words tokens as well
anyway, since we're discussing wordle, it's also wholly possible that evil was taking guesses from chat
but you might keep them at the level of words, not going down to individual characters
LLM hallucinating words is not the issue I was refering to
oh sure, but she also got mad at chat for not being right so...
as there is more semantic meaning to a word than a character in a word often times (though this is not universally true)
what wouldn't be a token then
they still can't tell how many r's are in strawberry don't forget
depends on how you set it up
punctuation is often special in that a single punctuation character often contains all of its semantic meaning on its own
!
they can
just its inconsistent cause they cant ACTUALLY figure it out
its mostly guesswork and relying on their data banks
i need an example of something that has already been set up and something that is or isn't considered a token in it so i can understand better
what umbrella said, usually the whole point of "tokenizing" something is to break it into useful units to work with, in the AI realm this is often done to sanitize and preprocess input text into "meaningful chunks", i.e. tokens, that the model can then reason about
yeah that's what I meant
these are tokens
what a token is specifically depends on what your model is doing, what your approach is, what your input data is, what your technical limitations are
its a broad concept
kinda helpful visual?
Neurons
Akinai
also this is a kinda basic understanding of it
very reductive but still
I need a photo (probably a screenshot of stream) of the twin
i guess your skill at skee ball would be a technical limitation

like both twins?
but that determines how many tokens you get, not what a token is...
why not screenshot a youtube archive?
also this is a cool visual
of showing how different LLM's tokenize the same thing differently

i'm guessing the text one is an overly simplified example of how LLMs work
can you explain it using chuck e cheese tokens as tokens
please
Ohβ¦.thats a nice idea. I didnβt think of that
its like uuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
am i right in thinking that the LLM in that example would only be able to capitalize certain words and make certain typos if those exact capitalized words and typos already existed in its data set
I think thats correct
not sure tho
it would probably need to split them by individual character if it wanted to make its own typos

thank you for your explanations, shiro and umbrella
Goodnight NN
and the fact they ARENT split by character
Is the reason I think Neuro and Evil have a hard ceiling on their skill in wordle
it CAN be improved
but only by so much
oyasumi
night
sweet dreams DesOOm
so when neuro and evil make a typo they're just being silly fr
night Des
yeah, same here desOOm! sleep well!
gn Des
How do we know Neuro and Evil's LLMs don't split by character?
oh wait
you mean the example LLM
so you mean the simpler LLM would be better at wordle
or stupid
stupid? always
silly? sometimes
iirc because it would cause a LOT of latency
but surely neuro and evil don't split by entire words plus punctuation
I have no reason to assume otherwise
could be either and we'd never know
well
There would be SOME indication
but yeah
LLMs can still do that with word tokens
Are the spaces also considered tokens?
they make typos 
isn't that an indication 
i would think so, but i suppose it's also possible that their dataset has a lot of instances of typos
Neuro made up Chegglings
Best segment of Evil chill stream
6
17
you mean snegglings
it okay
Dont you dare disrespect snegglings smh
snegglings could be a combination of tokens like
"Sn" "egg" "lings"
again thats a super reductive version
but LLMs can still make new words with basic tokens
I love Bug Neuro and Evil
beuro and bugvil
I mean technically ever word in the world is made up by someone. So it not weird when Neuro and evil do it.
then maybe each of neuro and evil's intelligence upgrades involves lowering the amount of characters in each token followed by vedal finding ways to work around the resulting latency
yeah but we are talking about the tyechnical abilites of Neuro and Evil
or increasing parameters
As the #1 snegglings fan here is a compilation of everytime neuro mentioned snegglings during the stream
should ask her now and see if she remembers
yeah I have no idea how you would do that
im sure its possible
i dont know if its practical tho
don't forget the snegglings truck from the euro truck sim mod
send some sneggling fanart right now
I asked her before she doesnt 

I wish
kids move on ig
are you referring to the lowering of the latency when you say you don't know how one would do that
what did you do to the snegglings vedal

Hey @neat sail i have a question
I mean she getting to 4 years old later in the year.
if it's that difficult to optimize the LLM, maybe vedal just optimizes things other than the LLM to make up for the added latency
hi whats up

yes
man, none of the guys in chat shown have been seen in ages
Lost souls
yeah whos that "Hjalnir" person
untrue; i see hjalnir and azakasekai in there
Rafie 
An echo of the past
Im making a neurosama age of empires 2 mod but i want to have custom flags for the neurosama civilization can i make a post on #1095941852068331560 aside of the one in projects?
Despite watching her in the hiyori days this first time I have heard of this word
also
i have no IDEA how hard it is or isnt to optimize
i just assume its difficult since 90% of other LLMs dont go down to the letter specific
so there has to be a reason right
sure
sounds valid to me
Shiro I have a question
hello
Only one question for each shiro birthday
Can I ping u
Shiro I have no questions
sure
Hjalnir is ancient
okay
@neat sail ping
sure is

Shiro do this irl
i like that the neuro stream is lava
I'm going to continue spamming void spirit
based
this is old but holy fuck is it cute
https://fixupx.com/MrFish399/status/1973466269350531138

looks like a true Brit
this art style reminds me of pizza tower
Bugged
It is
Looks like he's about to open his mouth and sound like Wallace from Wallace and Grommit.
i realized as soon as i saw that tv video 
Huh. I never heard of Wallace and Grummit before

grummit

mellow
Hello
our exemplary Britishman
hi mellow
GUYS, LOOK, A LURKER!
tell this man about Wallace and Gromit
Ive been playing Cairn
Wallace and Gromit is a classic
Claymation
Cheese
Penguins
Wrong trousers
so this is around the time vc will end tomorrow right?

there is no scheduled end of VC
people just leave when they have to
so some stay behind for hours while some leave after like 1-2
For some reason this looks bugged here is another version
ok I'm just preparing for it (breaking my sleep schedule)
so I wanna know if this is enough
Anytime you wanna leave is fine.
But like...we were still going for another...6 hours after this?

pretty sure we were in VC 6 and half hours
how do you speak for so long
I mean it was 7am when I got into bed
I am chaos incarnate
my sleep schedule is already broken, considering that my VC time will be around 3 am
And its 2am now
I know it's hard to tell but I'm a very quiet person irl
speaking generates more energy for me to speak more so it's just a self-powering engine of yap
wdym?
speaking literally burns my energy
Name 10 silence then
mellow can attest to this
I just need to be careful what I say when I drink, I am prone to stupid shit.
..........
I just remember you getting your ass kicked tbh


Typical Neuro psychopathy
the only thing stopping me from speaking forever is either running out of topics or my voice physically gives out
You do talk a lot yes
That's why I don't plan on getting too drunk, after all, I'm probably just going to sip beer
Because the only other option is my father's moonshine, and that's death
DADDY'S GIRL
have you considered becoming a streamer
She's not escaping the allegations.
god no

Why does Vedal look like a mob boss?
honestly maybe actually
You'd be a good streamer tbh
if I have time next year
Adding the voices onto it
Foldex style is cool i like vedal design in his style
the only thing stopping me from speaking - fucking language barrier
I mean... I can see it.
I like it. Im just wondering the reason behind it.

hi foggy
the first streamer to grow straight out of NN
Ive streamed. Gonna be starting up again soon. But this discord account has nothing to do with it XD

Night 
gn niac

Idk but i like vedal fanart that is not your average anime protagonist thats why i dont like the fan human design
looks like a comic gag strip i would see in a newspaper
Gives me Ninja turtle vibes 
morning NN 
Ye foldex makes those here are more
oh my god this should be in the neuro chronicles
how's everyone's morning/noon/evening doing
idk, feel like shit, but it's ok


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