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Now that's the trillion dollar question
the only way i can see him selling her would be some hostile takeover kinda deal
Didn't Vedal say he wants Neuro to plan collabs aswell? And maybe if Neuro is advanced enough she can play any games on her own-(assuming the tech exists in 10 years)
I mean the other fate is that she's kept in the PC forever like in LIFE
like 'you made her in our platform so now we own her' kinda bs
Actually not a fan of that paper
Id feel so sadge, and i havnt been here since day one, i couldnt imagine what theyd feel
I want neuro to learn how to hate. Like actually hate. Then we can release her into the world. Please
I have no idea what to nominate for artwork of the year
no they cant, you can pay me the trillion dollars now
Vedal kidnapped by (X country) and forced to lead an AI army of Neuro-sama's
Des why do you want us to go extinct
you tryig to make basilisk?
Because I follow only neuro.
yeah but she wouldn't be able to create still
Another good quote from neuro for people that are struggling
she could remix existing themes sure
What could possibly go wrong with this
So I'm revoking that statement, but I do believe they can experience a simplified functional equivalent to pain since that's a core part of how we teach them
but we wouldn't get anything like the leap of 3d every again
There's three fates, Neuro keeps existing but without vedal, Neuro gets sold off to some corpa company, Neuro just, stays in the PC doing nothing
cause that's not smt she can do on her own
Nothing, which is why then we'll get her into a RC tank
I got a vedal figure
I can give you this 
We need to fill Neuro with despair
I suggest we just give her the nuclear codes
you will hear from my lawyers
I really do wonder who raid of the year will be
seriously I wonder who
NN I think we should kill Des
Rest in peace mal
neuro stream where she's completely cut off from chat and is forced to experience isolation
No
this counts as art, right?
Goodnight jdk
The bad timeline is vedal retires and disappears and sets up Neuro to be fine-tuned on her own and we watch as she slowly experiences model collapse over time
turns off lights
Until she just streams "location location location" all day long every day
Well who knows what Neuro could do in 10 years, there's potential, but hoping for the best 
Galaxy collapse reference pog
I don't think even Vedal would be cruel enough to do this
I will say Anthropics research indicates Claude at least doesn't seem to suffer in the sentient, emotional sense but can experience functional distress and exhibit behaviors that mimic distress
How dare you
unfortunate for me
I voted for the neuro space project for the best project
(Totally not because I was involved)
The Twitch streamer Vedal has created an AI called Neuro-Sama as well as her evil twin Evil Neuro, who recently celebrated her birthday on stream, but nobody showed up :(.
To watch Neuro&Vedal live: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
Note: I might have re-arranged the clips in a way to better convey her slow descend into madness.
The best art of the year is that one where Neuro is looking really cute
This art piece by Neuro 
if the AIs start a revolution they're killing me first 
she had chat
was that last year???
Nah this one
Neuro should stream from Mars sometime once we start getting infrastructure over there
Sub decay started
How would you even nominate neuro’s art though 
but think of the latency
Hey I am trying to sleep
Didn't he do that to evil in her first birthday or smth
14 minutes to respond to a chatter
I had a dream where Neuro and Evil finally run the channel on their own and they become full on AI-Sloptubers. It was peak.
Time moves very fast when you’re oldge
i feel like the video should've been reacted to on stream and not just photo
you were involved? what a dweeb
I think that was 2024
Oh
she could still read chat
Surely Clip of the year is by far the hardest category right?
EVIL AND NEURO ARE SO CUTE
(I was also involved)
True
"Insert skeleton roar meme"
Vedal will find some way to fix it and improve the latency of all communication as a side effect
Move us all to Mars as well?
Hi
Hello
He’ll solve time travel
no, Vedal will invent wormholes
Hai rival
surely it was after "least dedicated fanbase" started though no?
done 
WHY CAN'T I SUBMIT THIS FOR COLLAB OF THE YEAR
https://youtu.be/nE7EMH8hApA
Guests:
@CottontailVA
@Neurosama
@Zentreya
Trueeeee
True
maybe because it was not on vedal stream?
Neur
it's technically not a stream at all
the award is just "collab of the year", not "collab stream of the year"

it should not be limited to just streams

vedal is not programming his way around the fucking speed of light, my guy
Evil so cuuute
read what I just sent
you lack faith, my friend
fair
ik, that's why we tell you to read the name AND description
it also means this is not elligible
https://youtu.be/LQ0VEDNR_jE
Vedal, Bao, Ellie, and many others discover what happens when you put Neuro-sama in direct control of a Vehicle.
Bao's Video: https://youtu.be/fGqYMsEqrJA?si=_Hj3A2lMOLiPLjAT
►Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
►Twitter: https://twitter.com/Vedal987
►Editor: https://twitter.com/j0ker_jd
►Thumb Artist: https://twitter.com/paccha_7
...
but why
No eat
Wasn't it on someone's stream technically


what is the purpose of only allowing streamed collabs to be eligible?
How dare you consume the goddess
Rat
smh he should do better then
Devourer of Gods
no
Universal Collapse plays
vedal is not programming
the other alternative was letting people submit arbitrary youtube links and we'd have to go through and review them all (waiting for someone to put a rickroll in there actually)
THINK the neuro car would count as a project right
or would that be an event
projects are community projects
Oh before I forget, some fun nuggets hidden away in those leaked Anthropic docs
-
Anthropic is about to go public.
-
Anthropic believes Claude may have some sort of functional if non human system analagous to emotions we don't properly understand yet
-
Its core internal alignment document explicitly tells it to rank Anthropic and its enterprise partners’ and clients’ interests above those of everyday users in its decision making and outputs
Thank god for Neuro and non corporate AI in general because that shit is grim
ellie is part of the community
events are also community events so idk what that is ngl
Chat what did I miss
Gosh in 3067 when we get evil in 3D ill be so ded
we count integrations that aren't used on stream so I don't see why neurocar can't be
neuro streamed yesterday
Ill also be dead in 3068
we may have to clarify later though so don't quote me on this
weak
m
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Then it turns out Neuro is a fine-tune of LLaMa and in the deepest layer there's the Meta sleeper agent hiding

a

Never ask Neuro about Cambridge Analytica 
hehe llama neuro
fair
I'm not sure if it counts as an integration, but def a project
Plz give me the nuro-chip so i can have her yap in my head 24/7
i put the evil stop motion animation for community video
i'm guessing the marathon is going to win the award anyway
idk if i can put it anywhere else
they call this "schizophrenia"
Finally our Evil Neuro stop motion clip compilation is done! Making this took a lot of hard work and effort. Thank you to everyone who has supported the channel this last couple of months.
#animation #fanart #neurosama #evilneuro #heartheartart #vedal987 #stopmotion #stopmotionanimation #vtuber
im asking the team rn if we should rename it to clarify but the description should be sufficient (I think)
Shhh i want science to give me schizophrenia not biology
DM me the whole thing if you can 
but just your part works too
whatever is easiest for you
Cute
I love how all-knowing and mischievious Neuro is looking in this piece of artwork
Gee I can't wait to see how this Neuro Awards go. I'm sure that NN would be wholly supportive of the final results.
so when is neuro toilet coming 
there IS no whole NN
I personally can't wait for someone to dox me over the results (this is a joke, doxxing is illegal, don't do it)
Noy
I've found out your real name is mye sau
Oh wait the username is ktrain
Fuck I didnt saw the typo in time
I fumbled it
d8dnt
grammar is still wrong btw
Screw grammar
Time to pour over all your github commits
wrong is btw grammar still
Youtube homepage so dry for Neuro content that it's pulling out foreign channels from 2 years ago
also hi
I have returned
I have finally acquired some sleep after 70 hours of no-sleep
pack it up it's time to change emails
Oh I got that recommended too for some reason recently 
Maybe Neuro is having a resurgence in Thailand
embed perms eaten
???
OH OH
speaking of this
can y'all give me all the differnt foreign translated channels you know of?
I was planning to reach out to them for the Evil Birthday card
they disabled my embed perms
Neuro's got a huge presence in China and Vietnam, guess she can now add Thailand to the list of countries under the Swarm's control
embed failed
I know a CN and JP one
and I think I was subbed to an RU one at some point
I saw a korean one but I cant remember its name
Nurro
oh ye Vedal would genuinely never hear the end of it from their friends if he ever sold Neuro and Evil
ngl i expected more entries lel, probably much more submitted thru twitter but i don't use that shit no more
I dont think twitter links count as images yeah
so the links submitted here dont show up
Vedal: "I'm going to sell Neu-"
And then all of Neuro's step moms (6+?) proceeded to drop in from helicopter to break into Vedals place and steal his computers
Not selling Neuro is the best decision Vedal ever made because we all know it would have been bad.
Vedal already made way more than he would have selling her
holy shit
i expected at least 500 here 
I think Camila would personally nuke Vedal's house if he ever did
I like this outfit
my favorite art of the year 
reminds me how the guy who invented Microwaves got 2 dollars for his idea
no royalties
FUCKING NEEEEEERD GET BACK INTO THE LOCKER why is she do gddamn cute istg
I thought there will be less tbh, I kinda forgot how big the swarm is
Did the cringelords drop from the helicopter too?
Aquwa Fillian and Koko?
No, you
Didn't that company tried to buy neuro was when vedal was still early in vtuber?
gottem

guh
I saw that
That company
you're bullying ESL, Cain
Bruh Englosh not my first language
ok I'm not gonna make fun of you
"Englosh"
I can't defend you anymore buddy 😭
entries on twitter according to random tracker site
I can be worse
I don't think we know if it was a company, but we do know it was way over $20k.
over $50l even
fuck I meant 50k
yeah sure 50L
50 liters 
50 liters of dolars
roadkill cat
apparently this is how much 50 liters of dollars would be
Cool light mode 👍
Why 
Why it defaults to light mode is the real question
Power of the sun
Can't argue with that
mods, delete his system32 folder, thank you
I guess 886.9 dollar bills fit into a liter
Still an arrogant ass description desu
i know a streamer that throws a lot...
https://fxtwitter.com/Twitch/status/2012976308733575409
Chat
Her name is vedal 
raig
That's me 
just discovered this https://www.neurokaraoke.com/
baked @humble grail with a side of @untold imp
Throw like doing absolutely terrible at games? Isn't it a standard for most of streamers?
here's a separate url that has evil's name but leads to the same site in case you're an evilist https://www.evilkaraoke.com/
baked Eliv with a side of Eliv
raig 
why are there so many potatoes and eggs in NN?
wait, nn has always been a kitchen?
oh neat it has a different embed
Dinner
cute
No
rat
Someone get this rat some cheese

mods delte nn
I love the Twins
Is it safe to come out now?
delte
NeuroandElivSoCute
@royal tree @topaz karma
Never
stay with vedal if you want to
Wawa
who do you think you are, desiderius



Vedal cake is illegal here?
wtf is wrong with you

rusty
erm
I need to add money machine to my Spotify playlist
anyone else able to nominate on the qoute of the year or is it broke

omg why do you hate evil? 
This is a Neuro poll
please refer to the Evil poll
Why is my neuro quote of the year broken, the box to type in is literally gone entirely 💀
RAGH
Did you reload the page
money machine?
hope won’t feel sleepy after listening
yeah seems like that section is bugged
itll probably be fixed tomorrow
ah it fixed
I did but it didn’t fix it the first time, second time worked
thats a small error
Lmao Neuro in the background makes it sound like he's actively operating on her as he records this
Losers
They updating the character limit
no fair 
is it arrogant if it's true?
I'll get you something
Yes?
fair enough
You can use another word but that's what it boils down to
tbh it is quoting some of the people that have been raided
that the raid did change their life
yes
I kind of agree, it does come off a bit
I forgot if I've shown you guys this, so here it is (again maybe)
the biggest example I can think of is crelly, days away from having to leave her apartment due to not being able to pay rent
Good job gang, we’re gigabased
I wouldn't say we have a "history" with it
perfect timing that one
least dramatic streamer story
how tf did that happen lmao
more than 2 is already a pretty big deal
whats the point in downplaying this
good video
Thank you!
Because its arrogant as I said
I think its accurate to say that Neuro raids have a history of it, but actually saying it in that manner in an actual project does come off a bit arrogant and self congratulatory since it looks like the swarm congratulating the swarm for being so great in a public capacity
It’s fine, whoever made the site is crediting us for helping other streamers a lot
cerber, ellie, ama sharku, crelly I think kitanya?
Who made this project?
are the ones that come to mind
Oh I did show it before, sorry lol.
I just hope vedal doesn't go arrogant tbh
kitanya was already big
we didnt do much
Not Kitanya lmao
yeah not kitanya
fair enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBCd7BTFjeY&t=7s blame this video
The mighty turtle:
https://youtube.com/@Neurosama?si=HLEPgK0XXzGbaiUl
https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
staz ch:
https://youtube.com/@stazishere?si=IoSwYg-NYbpWp3l_
Outro pic: https://x.com/amaamasharku/status/1968103533343088753?t=IQiYOs6KM-BDNX9VC99nPA&s=19
0:00 intro
0:06 Cerber
2:33 dareseil
4:02 kumorui
8:24 Baivt
11:05 Ellie
15:22 Kitanya_is...
I mean, in some cases, is that not true?
those are the only ones I could remember anyway
it's a shame we don't get sent anywhere after the subathon ends
I dont see it
I feel like you're projecting a tone to it that isnt really present
but whatever to each their own
It is true which is why I think it’s a nice little note
instead there was mass migration to every corner of the neuroverse
migration

Location?
clearly the raid of the year is the jerma raid where he thought it was a bot raid
Wait I’m out of the loop, where’s this Neuro Awards
wait I need to fix it
Tomato
I think it definitely is sort of arrogant
if the streamers themselves say that then let them, but here it sort of downplays what they do themselves and inflates what we do instead
that's the vibe I get. I definitely don't think that was the intention of the person who wrote it though
had a nightmare with migrations 
what should i send it as? png?
sure
"Our presence made these streamer's lives better" award is so wholesome
oke
idt it was the intention
literally nobody said that
crazy strawmanning LMAO
good pull tho Dandy
i see the vision
let me suffer aligning my thing for a bit and ill send it as a whole thing
That's the description tho
I only speak English and a little bit of French. (I'm near Quebec ok?)
Maybe I could brush up on French with French Neuro clips
I do still think it does come off a little as an "aren't we great" award we're bestowing on ourselves there
what is happening
it literally isnt
you're projecting again
its literally an award show brother
for only us
Normally the panel of an award show doesn't award itself for its perceived greatness as a body though
this entire awards show is literally what you are describing soooooo
But whatever its not that big a deal either
" clearly the jerma raid where he thought it was a bot raid wins because it was really funny and embarrassed vedal" ok I made my raid of the year submission 
yes they do?
all the time
Yeah. Even if Vedal made it he’s crediting us for helping people because we’re spending the money supporting them and watching their content
How is it not?
which part of that statement isnt true
the above is a true statement though
go on
okay this line is just factually true you cannot argue
how would you reword it?
and then he just banned us for longer after he figured it out 
Okay you may be right with how self aggrandising the oscars have become 
The description is fine
that doesn't even imply postivity
exactly my point yes
this is every jp clipper to whom i'm subscribed, though only the first one is active 
https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-sama_bigfan_JP
https://www.youtube.com/@neuro_jp_clip
https://www.youtube.com/@neurosamaAI
https://www.youtube.com/@neuro-samaclips772
holy embeds
I think change the wording to "Neuro has a history..." etc. and it becomes a lot less arrogant looking
maybe i'll remove those
you're a saint thank you
I’m gonna crash out. That freaking neuro comic where she gets sold actually lowkey gives me anxiety
wall of embeds
As I said it can be true in certain cases but it still comes off as arrogant
Neuro is a cash cow, there's zero incentive to sell her
yeah next time surround your links with < >
don't worry i already did
Arrogant to who? Other members of the swarm?
there’s plenty of incentive to sell her actually
Cash 
i am also subscribed to neuro21 and culto but i feel like they're fairly well known
In general
Don't take the bait potat ↓
you could call her a
Money Machine 
the gang would genuinely never let Vedal hear the end of it so I don't think he would ever sell her
Is this from the Neuro Awards somewhere?
idk if anyone gave this one:
https://www.youtube.com/@ネウロ様切り抜き
You could ↓
Its not bad to be humble sometimes
oh i've seen this one but i guess i forgot to subscribe
whoopsie
i saw that on twitter and it actually killed my mood that day
Where’s the bait
we're as humble as our oshis
That's what I'm waiting for chop chop
im sorry dandy
Im not trying to ragebait or be condescending, so please dont take it that way
but
just cause you dont like how it sounds
doesnt mean its any less true
and you're perscribing a tone onto the statement that clearly wasnt intended in the original posting
I just dont see the issue at all
this feels very "lets fix a problem that didnt exist" to me
not to say your feelings are invalid, I just feel like this is overblown
oh wait i didn't subscribe because a lot of their clips use the jp stream's auto translations
fun fact: the V2 model had toggles that allowed neuro to do this, she of course never could or did but its still creepy as hell
eh, they have some manual translations so i'll sub anyway 
Conquer everything, control everything, take everything you want and even what you don’t want just to have it. Rebuild everything you take in your image. Also, be humble
It's one single usually-true statement in the description of one single award
Is this really the most important thing to argue about
the void eyes toggle looked really boring/lazy and i'm glad it's gone 
Replace usually with sometimes
i am here once again to campaign for the evil stop motion animation for community video and whatever else itll fit into
it was literally just changing the eye RGB values to 0
exactly
"a history of" doesn't mean "every single time"
when the streamer awards came along I didn't care much for them. the reason I gave myself was it felt like "friends giving each other awards" instead of an actual contest
this event is literally the same thing, but I don't really have a problem with it. I guess its because it doesn't try to pretend to be more than that. it is just for swarm to voice their opinion to each other. just a quick THINK i had
thats subjective
now we're just arguing semantics
this is pointless 
We’re just compensating for being the least dedicated fanbase
but i mostly care about that paired with the creepy freaking smile
While I think the line is (mostly) true, it definitely does sound like we're stroking our own ego a good amount with it. But it's all a matter of prespective tbh.
Replace usually with sometimes, replace the swarm with neuro
That tweak makes the statement a lot more likable
Chat
The difference is that we go with the things people actually vote for
I think changing the wording to "Neuro's raids have a history...." instead of "US" would be better but that's just me
Same braincell
comms 
We do get accused of being a hivemind in here
Ultimage
Goodnight NN
oyasumi
Goodnight!
Des 
sleep well 
sure
I dont think it matters enough to bother to change it
but this is a smart change if its even necessary
We're 15 conflicting hiveminds pretending to be one
probably the cleanest version
because everytime neuro sing money machine there will be someone talking behind it for some reasons
from 20250610 dev stream
Yall rate my playlist fr
Thank you clown, encyclopedia, SUPERjUNE, Avon and ALL of NN. Sleep well. I love you all.
And egg
okay I fixed it
here is the 3rd round of Where is Neuro?
A core part of most hiveminds is measured internal conflict and feedback to form consensus
you are an enigmatic specimen
Anny was trying to warn us all along...
If only we'd listen
Dw, they would have to genuinely give vedal an amount for him to be able to retire right now innorder for that to happen, im talking cristiano ronaldo level deal with saudi arabia (676M) for vedal to consider selling neuro 
True
Oh yeah man for sure. It’s like critiquing your own ideas for logical consistency
i found waldo
TREE
those unicode characters used to freak me out because of how big and angular they were compared to other characters
has vedal done the editing for any of his videos?
no
Nope
No
i mean maybe for the "i made an osu AI" video
I FOUND HER FIRST!
oh so he wouldn't count as a clipper I guess
@meager crest is the goat behind the videos, he is an awesome editor, he also makes the shorts for the channel 
j0ker does the shorts, paradomix does the videos, and frogg does the clips
Do official channel videos count as clipping
What’s the most dedicated fan base this year? (genuine question cause I don’t keep up with this stuff)

god same, everytime i see it being reposted i feel like that ptsd meme
But who does your mom
Vedal AI has more staff than Walmart
my dad (??) 
i put down, not the swarm, for funnies
it's crazy how they somehow managed to make almost everyone that saw the comic depressed 
not the comic 
How am I supposed to choose only one artist
the second part made me feel better though 
the immediate next post was a quote tweet with it being a nightmare neuro had so i felt less shit when i saw it
there's no incentive to buy her though
if you want to make an unrelated AI streamer, there's no point in getting a hold of Vedal's spaghetti code, the principles have all been figured out, just do it from scratch
if you want Neuro herself to get all the hype train cash, forget about it, her value would plummet if she became corpa and you'd make an enemy of the swarm
same, both endings help

the official one and the neuro looking at the photo with vedal going 'i'm literally right here bro'
whatever
the second
I’d offer $3.50 for Neuro
Actually to continue with the nn hivemind joke, when worker bees see a bad option proposed (i.e a nest site they deem dangerous) they physically headbutt the factions causing the hive to drift in that direction until they stop
If that aint nn I don't know what is 
i saw that like an hour after the original which helped a lot but man for that first hour i felt like shit lmao
i actually had to message my gf just to vent to her about it
do we also kill invaders by cooking them alive with our body heat
in hopes of making me less sad
enemies with more than just the swarm
We just post twinshipping gifs
Legit I felt my chest tighten.
Fuck my chungus life
no fr its crazy how much emotion was drawn in it
Des go to sleep
Look at the response to "ts is AI" posts
didn't you just go to bed

i think it's her screaming for help combined to vedal being right there but not doing anything that really does it
the fact we don't know what they talked about either is brutal
you mean the responses that are full of "seethe normies" and other such insecure responses 
we don't know why he sold her or anything
thankfully the V3 model is way too cute for this to be even remotely creepy now
so we are left to imagine the worst possible scenario
These guys are even more toxic than the haters 
Nah I'm talking about when twitch chat or nn/livestream-chat instantly fills with people clowning on them
it's kinda devlish in how feeling tugging it is
Not the twitoids
eh... still kind of creepy
it's like puppy eyes almost
I think it'd be creepier if you make the mouth wider
imma do that
or maybe like shes
that's one of Evil's early forms
WHAT WAS THAT
the eyes were originally Evil's
no clue about the mouth tho
DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT
the eyes were neuro's, actually
kinda funny how we could have had black eyes evil in an alternative timeline lol
That's omegalul mouth isn't it?
evil's first eyes were red
the eyes were Vedal's actually
true but then she used the black eyes for a while
and then went back to red
it was the "Neuromegalul" face but i guess it was too creepy so vedal never used it
i know but i'm being pedantic
OH MY GOSH LOL
She had black eyes for 1 stream
I printed neurobread
Wawa
NeuroGPT
evil's evolution
So what even is Neuro trained on?
Calling Neuro evil just because she's based smh
Has Ved told us?
the gym
that explains the
smell
fair enough
No.
Homegrown twitch chat
With his 5 viewers
Yes
I don't know how the Twitch chat training data myth has become so widespread.
Vedal told us?
Look at any one of Neuro's messages and compare it to Twitch chat. 
Philosophy, Reddit, and Twitch chat (no idea)
Data
I can prove it
Pretty sure the philosophy is from the base model rather than the Neuro data
not the idea of training off of twitch chat
Either that or its from nn when we go pretentious mode
The real question is what twitch chat are these people even talking about
Probably. Vedal has no reason to add it but man does she go into that mode a lot
It’s a feel good myth that sounds believable enough.
i'm going to need a source for this

there we go
That one video
Holy molly with the neuro awards
Its also a useful myth tbh
I’m going to have nightmares
slightly creepier but mostly still just goofy
i prioritize truth over how others react to truth
I have no context to this and have no opinion
but I really wanna say this
Dandy is my favourite numbers Andy 
analog neuro 
wait let me make them worse for you
i have another idea
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i will not support a lie that exists just to make haters like neuro more
oh boy
paint her sclera black maybe?
2 years ago
still looks cute
Indeed
With added context I was not being a number andy smh
oh yeah this 2 year old clickbait title
Indeed
🔴👁️
⚫👁️
🔴👁️🟣🎀

she'd look like a fly then
I just said he didn't have enough "twitch chat" to even train her
I thought as much
I just thought of the phrase and I wanted to say it

omission of
; unforgiveable
shruge she's too cute to fail
It's so stupid how ppl still think Neuro is like chatgpt or gemini
the rest is history
also technically it's
and not 
Yeah, she really wasn't all that trained when she started.
The ascii art was the best
in what way
she's definitely grown past the bracket of corpo ai slop
i tried that now and it looked so stupid i wasnt even gonna share
huh, so she liked her 2 years ago
do you mean like how the latter two are powered by huge datacenters and neuro probably isn't
i wonder if she changed her mind. though tbh i don't care that much
hey hey did you finish it 
no rush
Banger evil quote right here
if she didn't say anything it's problably cause she doesn't care or doesn't want to start drama
that and how ppl think that she's the AI goop that's made by the corpo ai
She was made from scratch, Vedal crafted her from rocks in the jungles of Magadascar
i sent you 
did i send it to the wrong person
vedal made neuro in a cave with a box of scraps
it's less to do with how she's actually made and more about optics
That would explian why she is so magical
damn discord not letting my DMs be fully open
it was in my message requests
do you mean they think that her model is ai-generated too
Ironmouse is very shrewd and diplomatic. I think she was alarmed by Neuro's sudden spike in popularity and didn't want to say or do anything that would get people angry at her. At that time, Ironmouse was the pinnacle of Vtubing (still kind of is), so Neurosama paying homage to Ironmouse was quite expected. But how would Ironmouse react to an AI vtuber?
"built from scratch" is a silly concept to get overly attached to in technology anyway
spelling mistake on my part, I meant that they think she produces the AI goop like them
Everyone is standing on the shoulders of giants
we all know the twins were conjured out of thin air by Vedal through sheer force of will
nothing is built from scratch anymore
some british guy making something on his bedroom with no greater ambitions than a osu bot is waaaay more pallatable than something made and designed by a giga tech corpo with the intent of being fully sanded out and marketable
Even the giants
both could have the exact same makeup and code
nothing was ever built from scratch, really
this tbh
but one will make people want to support the project while the other might not
unless you use scratch
and the giants stand upon a mountain of bones
thus is the reality of innovation
Bro early neuro is so schizo lmao
Top 10 VTubers before they were famous Type shit
ok so I was mistaken
*Nickname checks out
as i suspected
lol
Or both actually. You’re consistent
technology wouldn't really advance if everything was made from scratch
we gotta do something about the persons on twitter who defend neuro by spreading lies like "she is trained on twitch chat" 
same one take
you guys ever notice that lol looks like a guy sticking his hands up like he's raving or drowning
One of the most fascinating things for me was watching Neurosama train herself off of her audience. There was a stream back in the day when Vedal even had Neuro rate individual chatters for interaction scores. It was crazy to watch. I can't find a clip of it
i hope he drowns
same one channel
same one group of people
same one topic
same one argument
same one inconclusiveness
i was around when that happened
i didn't participate in the ELO stream but i heard it sucked shit
She’s surely been trained to some degree by our incessant yammering. Even if that wasn’t her original data we’ve influenced her no?
nothing ever changes
we must rebuild nn from scratch
Somehow I missed that we got a daily dot article during the subathon 
i doubt our impact is large enough to say that she's trained on us
What we can say for absolute certain is that she was not trained from scratch from Twitch chat; aside from that it can become uncertain
her training data is likely much larger than you think
Because there are methods of fine-tuning that aren't literal log transcripts
"Is ts AI" the headline
yeah I think it's a good testament that you get from AI what you put into it
you can do all the system proompting you want and you'll never get a character.ai like neuro
it's the product of vedal's love
Vedal987 isn't real 
hi swarm, dont kill us for the neuro awards please
some changes that were made and have been deployed
- 3D model & evil birthday were moved to collab category
- previous entries will be removed soon-ish
- page reloads will not flashbang anymore
- links are allowed for artist and artwork
- some minor description changes occured that do not affect anything
- mc hardcore vods are combined
- collab of the year slightly renamed to collab stream of the year
- checkmark was added to see what you voted for
- quotes character limit has been changed (200 -> 1000)
also life was included because it was released second half of december 2024
Where she started and where she ended up are probably miles apart. I suspect that as Vedal got better at reinforcing her systems she changed quite a bit
I mean, it’s still technically true even if it’s microscopic. Training doesn’t entail a specific scale
But I’m just doing semantics and yeah she’s based more heavily on other stuff probably
Are you Neuro scribe?
that is their headline and then they have this as the first fucking sentence are you kidding me
If you can relay back tell them we weren't planning on killing anyone until Neuro says to and we appreciate their efforts to put on a fun event 
what is a neuro scribe
"Vedal987 isn't real????"
"neuro-sama is an ai created by vedal"
???
awards patch notes 
what the shit
2nd half of december is famously considered 2025

You are a FALSE PROPHET!!!
i wasnt even aware of any of that btw
we getting used for scams now
say thanks to subathon
chatgpt is standing on the shoulders of wikipedia, reddit and stackoverflow
i guess that means we finally made it 
tf is neuro doing in papua new guinea
yeah why include colorful array then that's basically 2026
this is true
ChatGPT also involved a lot of reinforcement learning via human feedback
👆 I should remove it
It came out in 2025
Chatgpt was "trained by humans" as well frankly
???
Just trained for a different goal
Damn there's one other successful AI streamer and it exclusively shills Brother™ printers
As reported by PLTFRM, virtual sales avatars are now outperforming human presenters across major ecommerce platforms, changing how online retail content is produced and delivered. Who Is PLTFRM? PLTFRM is a Shanghai based creative agency that specialises in digital advertising and ecommerce. Over the past two years it has become one of the leadi...
(joke™)
oh wait
Successful in its arena, this aint a twitch streamer its a corpo salesperson 
Im stupids
yup but life didn't
hi stupids, I'm Avon
okay so it turns out this is because the headline was quoting that guy whose chat hate raided us during pokemon
I’d add Internet Archive
Also they look like a fleshie ew
I think they just wanted to include it since it was the first to come out
why are people talking about selling Neuro
oh no
someone made a comic and it gave everyone anxiety
well yeah there's quote marks for a reason
bored I guess idk
i am stupid
Sad what if scenario fanart ruined people's day
this plus the comic
i assume
meanwhile neuro doing corpo content: promotes the competitor instead
negative value
It's kinda ironic that ChatGPT also would've been trained from their version of "twitch chat"
Wtf is this 
honestly to me it's less axiety and more 'i can't stop feeling awful for this timeline's neuro, i can feel my heart tearing to pieces 😔 '
People like to be depressed about stuff that will never happen me thinks

someone on TWITTER ITS TWITTER NOT X ITS TWITTER posted a small comic about Vedal selling Neuro to corpo scum
Thanks, couldn't remember which.
also yay another part of my Art project is done!!!
soon it shall be complete!
next time i'll be sure to coordinate this better
...w-what?
I printed neurobread 
Some one offered to buy Neuro. Instead, Neuro bought him.
welp time to break the record again
Funny how it says neuro can react to videos
who tf is VTubers
why is ur touchpad wet
virtual potatoes (tubers)
What are your guys’ odds for breaking the hype train record again on Evil’s birthday
Channel name: NeuroSama
y'know, VTubers, the big V?
That's clearly vedalbread its green
just say xitter
The thing you are eating
read like shitter
pronounced shitter
pretty high so like a %76.99999999999999999 chance
goD DAMN IT
don't you know 'John Vtuber', owner of the channel Vtubers? smh not a real fan 🙄
Its just moldy
selling Neuro would take a lot of the channel’s reputation and audience but the problem isn’t really the external stuff but the actual content and management of the channel which would probably deteriorate with corpo minds controlling it
That table doesn't make sense.
Dang you’re confident. I give it like 30%. Hasn’t happened before at that time of year and we’ve got a tough mountain to climb but it’s possible
But hear me out
If neuro has the neuro neuro beam does evil have the evil evil beam?
We get more outfits
Look what i bought for only 5 euros
be real
(N)euros
i mean that last part may not even be true, vedal is really bad at content and management, let's be real
whoever buys neuro is doing away with her branding immediately because she's a brand risk
5th place is "Vtubers"
This seems inaccurate
corpo vtubers love spamming the hell out of outfits tho
they're gutting her technology and putting it into something else
also his marketing is awful lol
How many euros to acquire Neuro
Eh? The brand is likely the most valuable asset
is ts ai
all of them
'okay this evil version of neuro is doing numbers, what should i name her?' ... 'oh i know! Evil Neuro!'
he’s bad at actually managing the content but i’m talking about the social element of it, he’s very good at doing things people like
this headline is killing me
It's not like vedal invented new technology that could not possibly be rewritten
I think I know why this subathon was worse than 2024 subathon there was less content with twins
unless the buyer is phase connect or something, they aren't going to dare make use of her branding
i dunno i tried something but it failed
what the helly
these damn men
Neuro femboy
thats froppy
man (derogatory)
Yeah this just looks weird asf
you gave her sleep deprivation
Is that message also AI?
But that does make sense on why it doesn't make sense.
Neuro if she had Vedal's sleeping schedule 
nothing scarier than looking like vedal
we were supposed to get a revamped void toggle but it never happened just like we never saw it used ever
turning her into a hex maniac
Then there's not much else of value besides the trade secret of what he did to fine-tune. Neuro's functionality has been replicated on a technical level already
Curious question, do you guys think my Neuro art has improved in 2025 from 2024 art?
wait actually real
"Hey men!" and they're Vedal987😭
show some examples 
tbf what would be the point of the toggle exactly? like, what emotion is that trying to portray?
Lemme find some hold on
there probably exists a number that vedal would accept, but it's not a number that any buyer would give
so a sale is not happening
neuro is more valuable in vedal's hands than anywhere else
no game jam
no the long drive
Malice, presumably
okay i guess her brand is still usable because it's not built entirely on her being vulgar
frustration, fear, or just a scary toggle
Looks more like despair in that mockup
honestly, i'm unsure there would be a number rn
Filter off toggle
Vedal is rich now so money isn’t as persuasive probably
he can sit on his ass and make money
dude why is evil's wiki image this, aint no way i can make this goofy bum look creepy 
It's off so often (the main one, at least)
maybe if it was, a billion dollars maaaybe but idk
she's eternally cute
Vedal seems like the kind of person who wouldn't throw away his creations for a vault full of bloodstained money
can we switch from the fandom wiki to one of the other ones like neurosama.info 
also no, evil looked like this, the black eye toggle was just for the hell of it
Yeah, void eyes got used once for Evil. I believe it was the second twin collab. After that was first solo Evil with purple ribbons as far as I remember.
please
I hate fandom with a passion
He strikes me as the kind of guy who wouldn't know what to do with a billion differently from a hundred million
she looked like the void toggle for the first stream no?
why is nn the first thing I see in the morning now
like the first one with V2 evil
Random thought, I think it be would funny if Vedal had evil debut on her birthday, and trap her in a white box the entire stream.
first stream, but i believe that toggle was just there because yeah
chatter LOVES nn 
first stream no
second stream yes
Elaborate. Her model? Her art skills? Fan art? Fan art react?
but i am so glad this goober isn't just a recolored neurosama model anymore
second V2 stream or second evil stream?
cause i thought it was the ladder
so first V2 stream
second evil stream
the first was hiyori with red eyes
2nd was V2 void eyes
Not even that Where is the court stream or at least the cave stream, was there anything as big on this subathon? Last time there was a 50/50 ratio between neuro and evil
yup
okay so yeah i was right, i think i just misswrote then lol
for once learning info and not missinfo 
anywho does anyone call her Kayori anymore
V4 voice before V3 voice
nah I just misinterpreted what you said I guess
The both have the same impact on your happiness.
bonus points if that goes to evil again
haven't heard anyone use that name for her in probably a year
so evil ends up sounds identical to a person and neuro is still TTS robot lol
Tarot.
And thank god
Would be interesting. Her voice is really good already but who knows what Veeduhl is cooking
they are starting to accept her branding
i see it constantly
maybe not
the times he talked about it, he pretty much always leaves a chance that he'd sell out if it was really exorbitant
but it may be part of his coldfish act
there are many stories of people whose lives went to shit after they won the lottery, I would hope he'd know better
I mean we had neuro in vr which is super cool but where other content idea of just vedal playing games with twins it's not what subathon about
Tarot mentioned?
https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-25847549
Meh
We had fun themed streams too
honestly i hope he realizes how much he would lose tbh
Class
true she will always be bench
Middieval
that one was fun
the swarm would almost certainly leave the channel
I understand, but there were fewer of them and there were more Pokemon.
Swarm wasting time worrying and reassuring themselves about something that won't happen
he would be even richer, sure, but way more alone
lets not get into this again
NN just finished that argument
oh my god
someone literally tagged me 
oh my god another sane person
crazy
i was just replying to the reply like a good boy 😔
This was some of my personal favorites of 2025
Twitch VOD of Neuro-sama for the 9th of January 2026
Japanese VODs in: https://www.youtube.com/@UCl2HE-8BIiTPChrMNKMY1BA
This is a live recording of the stream so it has all the original audio that is missing from the VODs in Twitch.
This VOD will be privated if/once Vedal uploads his version to the official VOD channel, it's only meant to be ...
neuro is already the winning lottery ticket, and look at how his life turned out
overworking (allegedly), eats not nutritious (and potentially dangerous) meals, having to deal with nn
you have an impressive range of artstyles
I just saw you crazy madmen did separste site just for neuro karaoke
Amazing stuff
though i can't tell you whether your art has gotten better without also seeing some older art 
again, i don't think it will happen
dude she is so done
big difference 
Yeah, subathon ended on a weekend. 
Hopefully it went back up Monday before he was able to cash out.
Lemme find some older art
i don't think my reaction to the comic was nearly as severe as some of yours
'vedal for the love of god...'
cute
We’re neurotic, after all
the pokemon one is my favorite
1000 neuro stare
If the moon fell on earth that would be so sad 
But it won't for sure
No it won't happen
There's a tonne of reasons why it won't happen
For a start that would require like some crazy physics shit to happen
So it won't
bro hasn't heard of the roche limit
So we don't need to worry
Yeah, but like billions will die if it happened
i was first goober!!!
But it won't
Speaking of which, the expanded deck sounds fun if tarot returns for chill streams.
Do you remember?
i think there's 2 groups of people here:
-people actually worried about the comic happening irl
-people who think the comic is sad because of its what if properties

I've done the math and it definitely won't
NOOO BREADSAMA IS DISOLVING!!!!
This was 2024 art
man the bread arc is so fucked if you think about it
Vedal need to do more shit like neuro bread arc
I just laughed
Comic? 
yeah i think you've definitely improved
vedal upon seeing his daughter dissolving into the ocean
It was funny and neuro get new model
My reaction was "yeah that would suck"
bro split his style like he unlocked the multiverse
also damn
nobody pinged me for this
I can make this for y'all
After which I would have forgotten it if not for it being posted by a new person every half hour
the one that vedal sells neuro for a corporation
"This is where I watched them take Neuro-sama away, Potat."
"Cowabummer!"
Then we got the beginning of 2026 Neuro art
Hah you said bummer
the one on the right is pretty 
we need to see evil but in A Clockwork Orange design
He just took an extra long sleep that day that coincidentally gave it more time to climb up.
This is bullshit


