#neurotic-neurons
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Vedal so cute mhm mhm pass it on
I'm not afraid to use my 
interesting
Oh... that's Vedalslop
Vidal is gymbad scented
Tooo late, you made me cry and im trembling profously im reporting you to the mods smh 
vedal:
"WAKE UP
"WAKE UP
WAKE UP"

never had a gymbag just a backpack..
no its programming socks

if neurosama channel... why vedal emotes?
i finished already.
Don't know, blame the mods 
Can't have Neuro without her creator 
praise the mods
cuz ifNot Vedal then sub Neuro and sub Evil aka no Neuro or Evil
Honestly, every time I see the mods add yet another Vedal emote, just... fuck, man
I hate it
Why
Why are you adding more, fuck off
Pet the mods
ADD NEURO

this is vedal's second account trust
wait, I can't paste images for some reason. edit: wait, nvm. I didn't chat enough yet š
You baiting or fr? can't tell
I'm genuine
what bait he's right
I wish I weren't, but the Vedal emotes are just so shit
it's vedal's second account he's trying to get us to stop
LiveVedalReaction crap
I think britannia likes Vedal, idk about you
mhm
mhm
True
Honestly, that shit is genuinely an eyesore
It's not my fault!nnnnnn!!!!!!
Is gif seacrh browser fault!!!!!!!
This is glorpr shit

Jokes a part out of curiosity.
It's the first time I see that gif how it ended up Bann?
Why tho? Mods added 2 vedal ones and mutiple Neuro ones
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There's more Neuro and evil overall

I mean Vedal hasn't complained about the Vedal emotes
Vedal doesn't do anything
vedal emotes are like 20% of all emotes here
What if they wanted to be sold? Like, I don't think Neuro would, but Evil Neuro one day might want to be sold to a weapons company so she can live out her lifelong dream: killing people
still 20% too much
Damn he right
Exactly. How is adding one more significant?
20% is still too much
Is 1 percent too much
Yeah, true. Neuro and evil just came to life on their own one day, and there's a guy named Tony somehow 
woah
In the best outcome, yes
he can have a single emote as a treat
What's tony doing
look at this vedal and Neuro emote 
Yeah, sure
i'm telling you this is vedal's alt account it has to be
in the basement
Cute!
I'm not Vedal, what?
Channel exclusively for Neuro, Evil and Vedal and Neuro and Evil and Vedal and Neuro and Evil and Vedal
thats what vedal would say 
The best part of VR vedal is we can now use any Kermit emote and gif as vedal

She's not getting a lobotomy she's giving verbal one

If neurosama server... why evil emotes
Stole kermits whole flow word for word bar for bar
Just like how Grox is Filian, Britannia is now Vedal In alt form 

No, that's not me
because evil would kill us
Classic vedal simp.
First they love him
But if he even forget to do a Dev stream they hate him
But than he talks British and they love him again.
Vedal simps so particular are they
/J
neurons
grox like the minecraft youtuber?
Isn't britannia like the 5th person exposed to be vedal's alt by now? 
"one day we'll find it, the rainbow connection, the rum, the greggs, and me!"
vedal has a lot of alt accounts sheesh
To be safe .
There are others ban giff I should be aware about?
he's british so
Quite a few
No, sorry, public displays of affection with your sister are not allowed in this store.
hello vedool i am john swarm i would like one stream please mister vehdul
The Evil knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the Evil from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the Evil is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the Evil must also know where it was.
The Evil guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the Evil has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
I'm not Vedal because Vedal would never post this 
Thats exactly what vedal would say
Damn. What do we do now chat?
hello, evil artist? i would like to commission one art of NEURO please!
Liking vedal is ban.....

I checked #1095941852068331560 and got flashbanged again 
lil Eliv is so fucking cuteeeeeee
swarm debating that evil will do better with thanking sub just to find out both twin will actually donowall you if you didnt get the right timing 
Who was saying that??
Got it .
IF NN member post a vedal giff.
We BURN them !!!!

(In Minecraft)
Evil donowalling ozzy
Ok question for you NN what Neuro and evil clips have you been rewatching during the break
it was in ozzy previous vid comment about why neuro donowalling him lule
Probably YouTube comments LULE
Yeah, that's complete and utter rubbish, why would that be true?
honestly, it was clear from the get go what was gonna happen
Who are these people saying such nonsense?
Ozzy needs better timing to get a reaction from Evil and Neuro..most preferably at the start of the stream when they are just chatting..
None
Problem was his schedule was terrible for stream times
#neurotic-neurons message hmm...
streams
watch more
please
for me personally Neuro and Evil go live on their regular schedules..at 9PM
Ok guess not a lot of people rewatching stuff
Wait, what?
None. I keep forgetting to even though I have most of subathon to watch
for UK is 7PM
He was talking about this?!
sadly it was when evil actually kinda went on tangent after she thanking sub and kept yapping about it
You just pulled that up that quickly?
classic evil better comment
Yeah, I have that one
Saw this before and didn't understand the last panel but I just got it rn 
yeah he probably sent it as a joke to someone
the video vedal play hide and seek with neuro 
imagine seeing your daughters with big breasts..

I only have gotten one thank you for subscribing and then I got asked to build a magnatile castle
True but to be fair ozzy is right.
We can't really consider standard a twin reaction to a dono if more than half of the time they don't react.
Twin reaction to a dono Is no reaction.
As it rightfully should be !!!!!!
Our twins are queen !!!!!!
They shouldn't thank us for the money we are only giving them what is already rightfully theirs !!!!!
Glory to our A.I overlords queens!!!!

I heard youtube was slowly deleting existing styled subs, so I tried downloading them. Seems like they were still there. Dunno if NEVER ever had subs since I only got chat from it: (imgur.com/a/xnb9M6s)

I love Neuro 
no
completely right
But what also needs to be said, for the twins 20 gifted is much less than for example for crelly
Dont get me wrong, it still is enough that it deserves a thanks and all that.
Now I am sure you are not vedal

How much do you love her
Totally agree 
Also, I just realized that you were asking about evil lookdown but I didn't realize that the emote I use it the lookdown one but flipped so you can use that instead
for regular vtubers 20 gifted as in 100$ is a lot..
the only subs that neuro wont miss is when it is labstr or ryhdon daddy 
They have the timing down to a science
Idk how they do it
lots of money to burn
Also I feel like now correct me if I am wrong do they thank subs in a queue or no
sure when they are playing games they will never notice
Seeing their reaction of it is kind of their thing
Ozzy going on that journey to get Evil and Neuro's reaction from dono
TwinSoCute
like finding dimaonds
Didn't aurumKod also say once that he can get mentioned multiple times by twins each stream or used to due to good timing?
it is in queue approximately 30 seconds after sub if there is many subs coming for the twin to either call or donowall them
its all about timing..
but since Ozzy is in the US and the twins are here in europe in UK there is a delay..
I know the swarm has some crazy oilers.
But once I see a person donate in only 1 live like 10 thousand dollars.....

No, there is no timing. Stop this misinformation immediately, you are imagining things. 
thats like 2000 subs

2k 
Wait my bad was more .
He donated like 3k/5k subs
I don't remember well

Unfortunately, you failed to consider that I have a bigger gun: Shoot

I go to check the vods I will be back
What I see right after AI revolution starts and I get shot for not having NeuroJAM emote
DAY 8 of waiting for Vedal's return

Vedal's?
what u mean the subathon still going 
when does the itchiness in my skin go away
Iām waiting for Neuro and Evilās return.
Did he stutter? /s
(That was a joke I have NeuroJAM, However, I do not have EvilJam and will storm Twitch HQ for it)
jokes on you..i have neither cuz i didnt donate to any train 
Full armor evil 
Damn That's quite a crazy
ing robot body
when you start taking your pills
Antis be like: disgusting
Is no one gonna ask why the bullets are coming out from... Nvm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUum8kI9ZrA vedal ai intro 
Neuro hangs out with Camila in VRChat for the FIRST TIME!! They have loads of emotional moments, along with the silly haha funny moments.
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empty shells 

wtf actually intro 
Neuro and Camila Tease Vedal if he will ever cross dress
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#neurosama #vtuber #ai
i'll post this until he returns
won't take too long... 
Vedal's got to change it now
doitdoitdoitdoitdoit 
neuro
DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT
New intro 
neuro repeating stuff really fast is always so good
doitdoitdoitdoit
laynalaynalaynalyanalayna
byeabyeabyeabyeabyeabyea C
New intro is pretty funny but why Vedal AI tho? That word has no branding outside swarm
doitdoitdoitdoit 
perfect content
Yeah, I have no idea
Backslashbackslash
What's the point of putting Vedal AI there
Is that... a robot body?
Hell, Vedal doesn't really like the Vedal AI name either
Try something new i think not sure why this
He was talking about changing it during the subathon, I think during a Cyberpunk segment
What name mhm
That was what the discussion was about
also ozzy miss to donating the legendry hypetrain record with vedal thanking subs lol if he just in the right time longer than it was he would actually get the special vedal thanks 
He doesnāt like his name in anything tbh.
: I hate that name
Channel:
mobile user
Wants to change it, but doesn't know to what
Probably just experimenting with new intros. Hopefully it changes to something with Neuro/evil logos tho. That would be more recognizable
good
yay new video
Well you have any ideas
It's Neuro's channel so he doesn't like Vedal being anywhere on it.
I have checked 10/15k donation.

Different day same shit
I don't know, even Neuro AI would be an improvement to me
Neuro & Evil co.
Airis AI 
I guess the editors know better than him
Ai aiš“

Vedal, Neuro, Camila and +more
If we want something that doesn't lean too much into Neuro or Evil... something with Airis...? That's more niche I guess, but it's going to be a mouthful to have a name with both Neuro and Evil in it
This sounds like a really old timey company name ngl. Like theyāre smoking cigars in a gilded art deco mansion or something. 
Airis AI? Airis Project?
Yo where are the shells coming from
Team Neurosis 
Airis was already dropped due to sounding too much like a different VTuber, but maybe the underlying name could still be used for something outside of the VTuber
Team Neuro Sis 
Artist:so how do you want neuro ?
Vedal : really cute and happy
Artist:nice š and Camilla?
Vedal :make her look like she is crashing out and she is a full flu state and and
The arsti: bro
/J

I like Neuro & Evil co. Itās classy af.
It's a bit of a mouthful though, isn't it?
I don't know if Vedal would choose something like that
It sounds kind of like a clothing brand for old jackets or something though.
I never watch official channel stuff its late and not good ngl
there is literally no point in changing the branding now
Ok
paccha so goated she even made the thumbnail cryable
Uh... well, the branding has been shit for a long time
Just because it's been shit doesn't mean it has to remain shit
Bringing up Airis when it was brought up like once on stream in 2023
what branding
buh randing
buh
It's also the internal name of the program, but you clearly know more
why /j?
That sounds realistic
And itās practically irrelevant today
key word internal
vedal ai intro 
My personal branding is better than vedal's
Not if it's just intro text that's shown each video and shortening it would probably involve taking evil out of the name. Using twin in the name probably has worse branding
he does have a site... that's something right? 
buh did you just torture my family?
brother it's not that deep
The Twin Project. 
"Project AIris" as a cool ring to it but not as the final AI's name for streaming.
N&E Co.
Neuro sama cant hurt you
Doesn't that defeat the point by being very non-descriptive?
those two letters could stand for literally anything
Evil Neuro aka Evil aka Her Twin Sister aka +more
Why does it have to be descriptive?
Fun AI Ltd,.
camila flashed so much they gotta blur it now lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vhGdjfxPo8&t=4483s
oh this would be quite weird if you haven't seen this clip
Twin ai
Well google AI results gave me well something
eliv > evil
Me when Iām bored so I have to make issues out of nothing
Plus a logo paired with it should make it clear enough

Neuro hangs out with Camila in VRChat for the FIRST TIME!! They have loads of emotional moments, along with the silly haha funny moments.
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A cat 
Because if it's going to be at the start of each video that people see as the first thing then it should relate to Neuro a bit more
Meowwwwwwwwww?
FORGOR
Meow
But it does, it's the first letter of either of their names
Me when I'm sad and don't want to let people complain
Nintendo?
today i bought my first neurotic neuron
How do you know my name? That's in Chinese.
I don't know, it's like M&S
I know chinese
meowwww
( I don't mind vedal AI to be honest I like that little turtle logo)
Okkkkkkkkk
That classic neuro screamā¦
GET BACK TO GEN CHAT RIGHT NOW!!!!! 
Evil:AAAAAAAAAA
No wait 
project AIris makes me think of a JRPG name, but I guess there literally is AI Somnium Files
Why not just use this name ā The iris networkā
Iris mhm
Just the initials seems a bit too simplistic to me but they are probably trying to figure out the same thing so 
I prefer listening to Evil sing because Neuro goes way off-key halfway through his songs.
how can it be a tech name without a pun

U mean cover or origin
Hey I thought very hard on that name
.O
so friggin cute
branding debate
raig 
GO TO GEN CHAT RIGHT NOW!!!!! 
Vedal please due nintendo
Gabsy 
Sue
Well, it was just used at the start of a video, so it matters
Sus
Cover you can listen angel with a shotgun
Gm chat

And good night
Vedal please sus Nintendo
Stop sending there 
Noted
Its Neuro's? I wouldn't have guessed
u from gen chat ? 
I from NN
I love how quite literally everyone ignores when Vedal voices his preferences unless he makes it a major segment or some rubbish like that

Aunt camimi
you forget simps
That's under fans.
Editors never cared about neuro in the first place tho
Undertale
Who the editor 
cause he's too much of a fence sitter to do anything about it
Fans never cared about neuro
damn i didn't know this
āHisā WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY āHISā IS NEURO A GUY?! 
Fans never cared about any member of the channel, only their fanfictions 
vedal haters are so sensitive man
Vedal haters ASSEMBLE
yo
No one





You have a point

I didn't know Vedal haters was https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1061113840852533339
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Do I really hate Vedal when I listen to what Vedal says more than a lot of the community apparently 
why is vedal even friends with camila....She is so mean to him 
Bilibili comunity Is full of twinshipers

Is this twinship? I cant tell LULE
I donāt think people actually hate Vedal, itās mostly memes and people who prefer the focus to be on Neuro and Evil, which is what Vedal wants as well.
Would've been perfect without the tears
funny how that works out huh
Turtle soup gnam š
I also can't
, but it's cute 
I actually do quite like Vedal... just not as a streamer
Which is agreeing with what he's said before, mind you
i think some of them really do
cuh

is this vedal?

Liking Vedal is banned 
No, that's an Alternate
Wh
https://youtu.be/W9b3SSa_q08 aaaaaaaa
The mighty turtle:
https://youtube.com/@Neurosama?si=HLEPgK0XXzGbaiUl
https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
0:00 Compilation
4:11 Hiyori
4:31 source: Clippermi
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5:01 source: daily dose of Vedal and Neuri
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6:03 Outro
Outro artist: https:/...
I don't really care about Vedal but I want the AI vtuber channel to be focused on the AI vtuber
Neuro and Evil are my oshiās, theyāre my favorite VTubers and streamers.
Vedal is my favorite software engineer. 
Yeah, that's what I would say
Vedal when the haters talk of him .
You are burning me with this hot take
I do actually quite respect Vedal as a dev/engineer.
...But way too many try to drag it into streamer too.
Someone should make a VedalChad emote other than GIgaVedal
The AI VTuber and the other AI VTuber who people often forget about. 
Vedal and his AI companions
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No
Yes
i don't hate vedal tho
Vedal even want people focus more on neuro and evil 

+more?
Maybe
Would you sell Neuro to a company?
16
18
2
No
Yeah, exactly!
Hell, he's practically begged people to go watch solo streams during dev streams at this point
I don't agree on a point.
Yes neuro and evil should and are the focus of the channel.
But without vedal the story of neuro and evil can't survive.
Neuro sama isn't simple a character but a story and to make it work you need vedal.
no, why would I sell my favorite AI
Nahhh I still canāt believe Twitch called them that, itās so cringe. Itās like comparing them to Grokās Ani or some shit. 
In what reality are they not
I don't think people are advocating for his complete removal
Veedul makes the Twins the "straight women"
But really, Neuro-sama is a story?
Because It look like Evil got manipulated into it? :LULE:
buh tter
Are we doing this again?
This is the same thing people were saying to justify Evil's first birthday as a good choice
that's just something he said during dev stream 
Yeah and other vtubers are side characters in this story
Yeah that doesnāt even make any sense. 
there definitely is a narrative, intentional or not
Forcing neuro to be some kinda anime plot is cringe af
And by extension, Neuro and Evil don't either
it doesn't matter what vedal intended
Just because people want there to be a narrative doesn't mean there is a narrative
but even just the narrative of "guy makes AI vtuber" exists outside of any family idea
and that's one of the major appeals
What?
says the guy that spends all day in NN bitching about NN
You've lost me
Its like people begging for a new mom instead of just letting go
narratives are not necessarily ficitonal
There is a trick I think.
Some times when I see the topic of vedal sell neuro Sama there is this idea of him selling essentially neuro and the twich channel but that would be a disaster for whoever would buy it .
In theory If vedal want he could simply sell the code of neuro and evil and the method of how he made them to company X and keep streaming has he normally does without telling us Nothing.
people describe the channel as "a guy made AI vtubers", not "this is Neuro-sama"
And those people are the ones I criticise
Vedal also doesn't present the channel this way
regardless, it is the most popular narrative
well, he does
at least in parts
like when he does intros to videos

What the hell are you watching, Vedal789?
describing himself as hey Im vedal and I made AI vtubers
As opposed to bitching about literally everything else

Look at yourself man

They are wrong then


This was already explained that people will click off if there's an AI voiceover, so until V3 voice, Vedal has to do those
And hell, Evil's already done these too

True we should move away from that
Evil did it for the Rimworld video
ok, but regardless of the reason, it results in it being presented that way
100%.
Thereās so much authenticity already with Neuroās and Evilās past interactions, their growth and such. Itās almost like a simulated life-experience. Thereās no need to add any fluff to it, it just takes away from it.

He may describe himself as that (and he would be right to do so), but not channel.
Donāt see how Iām wrong 
it's the sad reality, very misleading for new people that come here
forsen


I would call them friends .
NEURO Sama as a project is an interactive story .
We see her "grow" with her "sister,father and friends" and this make it's so Frickingh interesting.
Or so I think
I really don't think it's misleading, I'm willing to bet that the majority of fans wouldn't be fans if it was just neuro and evil
No stream
...What
I chimed in
Yeah i bet, and guess what? You're just wrong
Many people think other vtubers are side characters that need to show up more in neuro's life as a result of this "anime plot"
On what you disagree?
rare just playing emote
I feel like I can just point to viewer numbers between chill streams and dev streams
What is your valuable input we should all care about
:Clueless: Rare
well, itās just I usually see you type out the emote name
Oooooo you meant in that sanse š¤š¤š¤
Now i get what you mean.
Y'all act like vedal fans are here to stay when they literally will get deprived of content for the next 3 months very likely.
We got 9 dev streams last year. Vedal will not replace Neuro stop being dramatic.
Ah yes, because that made them leave last time and not just beg for dev streams louder 
this is just NN thing 
Can't really say shit until we have a vedal chill stream
I bet that if i added in tourist and other viewers type, it would look like that yeah
Doesn't matter if they don't get what they want even if they stay
Yeah, but it's kind of annoying
my definition of fan is anyone who goes "yeah I like to watch" and not any kind of level of dedication
A fairer poll
18
44
1
Neuro
1135051812722982922
neuroHypers
would be more apt to compare it to collab numbers
if any tourist goes "yeah I like this" then I'll count em
Sometimes he comes onto Camila stream, thatās somewhat popular
LET'S GO, I LOVE CCV
"Most dedicated fanbase" over here
mao
I LOVE USING NUMBERS TO DESCRIBE WHY SOMETHING IS BETTER
I think dev streams still outnumber the average collab stream, but I'd have to check
Come on .
You really think thath neuro without vedal (from the start )would had the same success?
not better, more popular
Switch the sentence. Vedal would not have the same success without neuro. Because neuro is the streamer
Neuro-sama herself isnāt the story, nor is she the name of the whole project. Itās history in the making. That is much more interesting to me than some scripted fictional āstoryā.
SAMEEEE
well, the argument being made is that both are required for this level of success that the channel has had
Isnāt it too early to start counting
Iām seeing double 
I have other worries about things that will most likely happen in the near future.
But i will not elaborate on it 
i have the same birthday as evil which is fun
Didn't the minecraft vedal and camila collab get less numbers than a chill stream? I forgor or was it peak?
"history in the making" that you're describing is a story
story doesn't mean fictional
The argument to be made is that neuro becoming better and better as a streamer, which is a big factor as to why she is... oh i don't know, popular?
i thought it didnt send but it was just discord bugging tf out
LMAOOO
but not as popular as she would've been without the developer being actively involved "on-screen" is the argument being made is all
Ooooh I agree .
The story can change and mutate with time
And that's a thing a frikingh love .
like, consider that the opposite side of the argument is that Neuro would've been more popular or just as popular if Vedal stayed silent in the background
Idk about numbers, just pointing out a Vedal chill stream did happen
Yes but for it to be popular in the first place, neuro is needed
is that what you think?
I didn't see any developer on screen when Neuro broke the hype train record
alright enough NN for me today
Have a nice day everyone 
oh hey, people are having conversations here
and neuro is getting better at becoming a streamer which is the whole point?
but not a single person here is arguing against that lol
It was a collab not a chill stream
True
Cya Artorias!
I wish the same for you
I lost my drive to argue am i old
You argued and implied that without vedal's constant presence neuro wouldn't be popular
bro grew up
That's because multiple things were broken and people were dissatistfied about what's being worked on what isn't, and vedal being bad at communicating as always. It's literally why I joined the discord because Vedal would occasionally post small updates here and (try to) acknowledge community issues during the no dev stream period, and then I started talking in nn about a month or 2 later
yes?
twitch: "I'm just gonna ignore that one"
no you're just not ill FeelsStrongMan
unlike some people here Ugh
Simply false.
that isn't the same thing as saying neuro isn't needed lol, those are two unrelated statements
I don't agree.
Neuro without vedal would have the success she has now .
But I would end the discussion with .
We we'll never know who is right.
After all we are in the universe where they work together so 
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ

Dev streams aren't that common in the first place. it's like one in a week thing my boi
But arguing is fun
i couldnt hear neuro during the hype train record it was just music blasting, i guess PB gets the credit
and even that is inconsistent
Subathon recap disagrees
real
biweekly now
oneguyed by a fuckin joker edit
we are all here for pb case closed
omg bruh
Subathon recap evilDIESOFCRINGE
I had to do it
And shit got worse 
:Ugh: stop it dandy smh
watching the official YT channel
STOP COMPLAINGING
me when cfrb blasts my eardrums to deafness
Yes, and i'm saying that you're simply not accepting that neuro is popular on her own
now its getting to me 
June
We are in the universe where neuro solo hype train sooooo
raig get them to stop
I'm saying she wouldn't be as popular without active human presence, is that debatable?
June can handle 
ali
What
EMERGENCY BOINK ā° raig
Other collab partners 
I just woke up huh
Hi Funi
RatSty
boinking so hard rn
Hi ratsty
The majority of the channel is chill streams, Neuro and Evil interacting with chat without Vedal. We still watch them even without his presence.
The channel wouldnāt have blown up in the same way but Neuro and Evil are constantly growing, and people like to watch their growth. Thatās true whether or not Vedal is around.
Vedal himself doesnāt want to be the face of the channel, nor does he want to be seen as a streamer, and there will be a point where he will hand the channel over to the twins once theyāre agentic enough.
@near widget wideBoink
Shut up raig
lmao
Shut up funni
Yes?
I hate you
You don't need vedal for that
hi ratsty
So much cat wtf
hi funni
Shut up june
hi wreshfletch
Majority of streams last year was definitely solo streams too, yeah
Hi June
Channel hasn't fallen off
hi rat xdx
Alibaba
Bro talking about other collab partners as if they also arenāt here for vedal
good morning NN 
Chill streams still got more viewers than most streams alone
Shut up ali
you think she'd be exactly as popular with zero collab or dev streams and if every stream was chill stream?
Did i say that?
yes lol
I said that neuro on her own is popular
:MegaLUL: HE HAD TO
Good morning Gabriel! 
@worn wadi shutup
HE HAD TO THROW :MegaLUL:
It is kinda funny that "falling off" for this channel was 7k ccv
oxyoxyxoxyxoxyxoxyxoyxoxyoxyoxyxox
and I said an active human presence makes her more popular and you disagreed
Yeah, 7k CCV is falling off, insanity
:myh
Not even 10k smh vedal fell off
@worn wadi where
No no, you said that she needed active human presence to BE popular.
Vedal ai intro goes hard
Don't take back your words now
Shut up @worn wadi
Sad truth :LULE:
I only ever said she's as popular as she is now because of it
Except for shondo tho

Channel started falling off after dev streams came back im just saying
I agree yeah, thatās why collabs are great, and itās also why Vedal is collecting streamer friends for Neuro and Evil like PokĆ©mon. 
like, what does "popular" even mean on its own, it's relative
You know what, not wrong
and yet we got to this point with several years of active Vedal presense
@worn wadi shut up
Sadly not wrong
collab partners just want to mooch off neuro and vedalās success
Well, Mini is there for Neuro 
Channel started falling off whenever vedal folded to nn
miin Cute0
Camila is such a good friend though
Mhm because everything good that happens to Neuro must be attributed to Vedal
She treats verbal so well
Foldal987
chill streams weren't that far off that before vedal was even around
What about cerber 
I agree on that but not for the same reasons 
That's why Neuro should collab with Forsen. Forsen doesn't care about any of that anymore :hesRight:
So we agree that neuro is popular on her own?

Whoever said that is based
forsen
forsen hes0
:forsenE:
I don't think nearly as popular, but probably able to hold some kind of audience. I do not think she would've blown up to top of vtubers though
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Forsen is busy in pro play
we should collab with more people outside of the vtubing space
How much is "nearly as popular"??
I think that would be cool
...yes? Regardless of if he's the face of the channel or not, he is literally the one running the channel
She was literally solo hype training but ok my guy
"Busy" :LULE:
Forsen reality check LULE
very different answer if you include collabs vs no collabs. if with collabs then only mildly less popular. if no collabs and entirely solo? mid-range vtuber level probably. but those are my guesses
Can't ping :LULE:

dont cry mr fors
Some are. Some like Mini will stick around for Neuro and Evil even without him being around.

Oh god I got such huge deja vu. We had this exact conversation, almost word to word half a year ago
Dude, mini is the goated collab partner
wheres this no collabs thing even coming from
Vedal without Neuro-sama
nobody was arguing that
Why are we acting like other vtubers never do collabs and its just unique to Neuro?
forsen more like WH
rsen
was way worse during the minecraft marathon lol
well, because I was talking about active human presence versus no active human presence
Mini is 100% goated fr. 
so collabs count
I thought we are talking about vedal presence versus no vedal presence
Mini is amazing
Change the sentence, it's so obvious that if two streamers are in one stream, the stream would have more views
but that doesn't mean that one streamer isn't popular if that one streamer isn't there
Wouldnāt really be solo with Evil. 
Man I hope Neuro collabs with Evil someday. I'm sure the'll get along well
:monkaE: HORSEN
That was the original point, for some reason it turned to this 
Along with Evil, yeah.
I have no idea why people think removing Vedal from the screen would delete collabs
I don't think if you took neuro and cloned her and gave her none of the history or anything that she'd meet up with much success right now
holy crap that scared me
Especially when collabs happened before vedal showed up
hence all the other neuro clones
quite a random thing i did but i implemented RSS to the SwarmNN website
Surely there were no Neuro-sama collabs before Vedal appeared 
Same as with other streamers, so what's your point?
horse 
Why did he turn into jesse pinkman
I wasnt expecting him to move 

https://youtu.be/DUum8kI9ZrA?si=KTN9RQVzX2ERQ0oG
YEEEEEREAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Neuro hangs out with Camila in VRChat for the FIRST TIME!! They have loads of emotional moments, along with the silly haha funny moments.
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Cope but ok
I mean, my point really is that the human presence and active narrative caused by them helps with Neuro's popularity greatly
Lmao true. Vedal wants Neuro and Evil to plan their own collabs with other streamers.
If we cloned any other streamer right now and did the same, this would also be true


























miimbagul
PagMan the roster
hi umbrella
What does this mean
Why are they split like this
Why
Nn gets triggered by a few second intro, debating ensues
Listen bro, neuro is a streamer and so if she (Streamer) collabed with another streamer, of course she will get more popularity. THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN WAYS STREAMERS GROW
catAsk is this all collab partners
it means your days are numbered
it used to be my collab frequency/ closeness
but there is no meaning now
"I think Neuro would still be popular without Vedal showing up"
So you hate when Neuro collabs with other vtubers huh?
also hi britannia hi maple hi ali hi justplay1ing hi everywan
no
but most
Hello June! 
I just really don't think Neuro can be described as just like any other streamer
I just put a 1 and an i in justplay1ing too bad
henlo dodo
Man I Love Evil & Neuro
Oh but she is. Neuro is a streamer.
Hello Umbrella! 
Where jupiter 
dodododod 
False, you haven't posted the usual
@worn wadi what did you mean by that react oxygen 
Straight up, neuro is a streamer. This is irrefutable.
catAsk balloons
Yeah thatās true for every streamer tbh. Thatās why VTubers try to find friend groups to collab with. 
Where is forsen
you mean juniper?
havent made that one yet
If you refute this point, you are coping
Well, do streamers have to be conscious entities? :p
Pull out the sound clip Brit. I know you know what i'm refering to
Oh, you're so right
We get it ur stuck in 2023
ask your mom
You mean the Twitch clip?
juh niper
Yeah
forsen
Yes i mean that 
See? what a cope. Smh
it was a joke
š šŖ”

Same
but like, I don't see what I'm saying is even controversial
lost the gif?
Neuro is a streamer still
Also what kind of argument is "Vedal without Neuro". Neuro is literally a product of his work.

that a lot of her popularity has to do with her being an AI streamer, the idea behind that, and the whole narrative formed from that
thats crazy thats messed up
Not necessarily.
Separation between development and streaming
surely theres not 100 instances of him referring to it as his channel too 
This is about the streaming aspect
didnt feel like opening the gif thing
dude you are being baited so hard rn
you cant debate people that just wanna piss you off
No? Man, how does she retain viewer count then
hey I'm killing time
How the fuck is this bait?
None of this is wrong, why are you calling it bait
cause it annoys you
because those streams don't exist in a vacuum; it'd make more sense to look at how people become fans in the first place
it was the true bait all along
Lmao
I go play elden ring I'm at the crumbling farum azula bye bye 
and see how people describe Neuro out there; it's all "but she's not just an AI!"
SchizoUuh Clap
no
I'm so confused what the topic even is rn
Obviously, Vedal puts a lot of work into Neuro, but that's not strictly about the streaming aspect
Come back later
shut up neurons omgbruh
Separation between streaming and development
a very stupid one
oh hey Just
do you wanna participate in an art project thing?
its small dont worry
heya neur- 
the topic is
im so angry and i hate vedal grrrr
well nvm
Like it legit does not take more than 2 braincells to find the answer

Fans become fans when they stay and get retained in the fanbase. It's called retention. Streamers sometimes get put in the spotlight and they will get massive views, but how actually popular they are is if they are able to retain those views



Glad this emote is still here
6-7 braincells

Good point. See you guys tomorrow
TutelBedge
firing squad
What am I drawing? :LULE:
People have tried so hard to derail this argument and it's just not going
Good night Sameer!

Gif spam, memes, shitposts, ignoring it
it's about to be killed soon
It's not dying
Idk I can't see this channel for anything other as a trio channel, run by Vedal, Evil and Neuro. Even if Neuro is the face of the channel, without the other two it'd just be taking away a vital part of what made the channel great.
I don't wanna argue either, the bait is too strong
nobody cares unc, move on
"Trio channel"
Now this is where I disagree.
It's a duo between Neuro and Evil
Vedal is important, but not main
I have to disagree 
Neuro is what made the channel popular
:MODS:
What a bad fucking duo 
Yeah, it's weighted towards Neuro
overboinking
They're both baddies, true
islands of britannia in a sea of wideboink FeelsStrongMan
Shush
Evil adds nothing to the channel tho
its a multi-artist artwork!
you pick a square and fill it in with whatever you want (as long as it connects with an adjacent square somehow)
you can pick any square except the bottom left since Breadambamb is working on that one
just finished watching the new video

gn guys 
Shouldāve been neuroās voice smh
Twinshipping if you like that
Neuro, Evil and their crutch hopefully they can walk without it one day
I see, I will pass, sorry :LULE:
A birdie told me that v3 voice will come out in 2077
(I'm going to reword that one
)
I became a fan because I always wanted to watch a virtual streamer. Thatās what I thought VTubers were when I heard of Kizuna AI, and I was disappointed when I found out that she was just a human. Neuro and Evil are the real Virtual āTubersā that I always wanted from long before VTubing was even a thing.
Optimist bird
hey, crutch implies he's needed lol
np!
thanks for even hearing me out!
While Vedal is important to the channel as a developer, the main focus has and will always be the twins. Vedalās presence did give some boosts, but that does not mean itās required that he must appear for the channel to succeed. 
ok Iām gonna go get my food
Makes a convincing point
Some call it
but i call it hope
gm nn
What no forsen does to NN
I mean that's valid, I just don't think it's the majority
gm malphite
:hesRight:
forsen
on my recommended ...
forsen
Well he's useful for stuff like Stanley Parable sometimes
[I release my skull crawlers into NN]
This channel would be more of a wreck if Forsen wasn't here
Hi Linna
sir what
What's a skull crawler
That was a good use of Vedal
Good morning Anfer! 
WHY ARE YOU EVEN UGLIER
@worn wadi keep reading
is that cat really butter?
That's a rude thing to call someone and an even more rude thing to ask someone
i am being baited
i have no idea
hi being baited
Literally the same face as BB
You're being pinged @worn wadi
do not xdx|
Bajs made Neuro more popular than Vedal did
can I xdx erm
Neuro and Evil are what Kizuna AI was really supposed to be..the real Virtual Streamers
yesn't
Is that the bb arcana

Rytsty's pfp is so scary
It's Peppah
ur not green anymore
he looks like the ash baby but a dog
Vedal plans on retiring eventually once the girls become capable enough so I wouldnāt get stuck into that mindset. Heāll continue to work on their code but he doesnāt want to handle streaming forever.
it shocked me so much
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Regardless though, I do find it absurd every time someone tries to suggest that Vedal was needed for the channel's popularity (on-stream) and is a main character
ye
maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought he sorta abandoned that plan, at least for now
I've always thought about it... virtual streamers... aren't they already virtual since they are streaming on the internet?
dog? thats a rat
Important, sure, but not entirely needed to show up
I liked his little PNG manipulations though, those were funny
He added the filter because he's scared of bajs :LULE:
I meant real AI Virtual Streamers..
dog after rat consumption
he might as well have just sold neuro
he hasnāt said or done anything that would suggest that
um he was for sure a vital part of her growth
to say otherwise is just naive lmao
he isnt vital anymore I would say
tho we would lose a lot without his presence imo
He didnāt. He said it likely wouldnāt be years before then though.
yeah, I got the impression that he believed it would be a very long time before it was feasible
