#neurotic-neurons
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nono all inclusive but then complain about people misbehaving somehow but you are not allowed to do or say something about as well
but missed out on hype train emotes 
You literally have no idea how much yt clip watchers bring to the community
the osu integration is broken and he keeps putting it off by telling people there's no need for neuro to play osu again since she 'beat' it
yeah they bring bunch of bullshit
Beyond birthday?
whathappens when ur in all tribes
the people who say "X better than Y" are always part of X 
Ewww x
Guys have you seen how a turtle created an ai video?
cause its better
You’re a fake fan if you can’t retell Neuro’s chicken nuggets recipe from memory
im not part of X, I barely even watch the streams anymore I just love complaining
Have you considered that I'm always right
Several neuro artists i know are yt clip watcher because neuro streams at 2am for them
you're a fake fan if you didnt watched the vedal stream on may 5th 2019 (i didn't)
don't worry i've already planted my swarm beacon in the comments
you ain't gatekeeping shit this community gonna grow like crazy
me
gatekeeping is good
I thought you were always rat 
thats not a good thing and we've already seen why thats not a good thing 💔
Also true, but i wish we have a bit of gatekeeping
nuro
Refer to my username
Y the Nothing App
durr??
what happesn to people who say X is worse than Y cuz ive seen some people say their worse than others
can't read it (light theme) what does it say? 
we'll deal with it
Open gate
People walk in
Give the most dogshit takes and opinions
It's insane that I kept forgetting that the people who actualy watched the ever first neuro since ancient 2023 till now, The Swarm is something unique.

you fit right inot NN!
I'm so fucking scared.
at least I have watch them for 2 years
this statement seems to imply there are any non-dogshit takes here
so rat hello
I will drink your kind
gaslight
gatekeep
girlboss
I love PICKLES
raigquitter
??? ??
vendal is the powehouse of the streams 
oh
Plytha
honestly that even happens with current stuff. people sometimes say that x segment was cool but they were either watching only highlights of it or forgot what it was like watching at the time lol

umbrella I think we should commence an orbital strike on this channel
Something that is not debatable, today is shiros date of birth
There are people here from 2022, even before the ban. Now those are the real OGs
but League is better than watching ai slop tho 
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHIRO
How is NN doing on this fine EvilJAM NeuroJAM day?
There's literally many takes that can be taken into consideration if people just stop labelling everything they don't like as "ragebait"
how long will vedal keep this up
its only like this cause of the twitch emotes
in like 4 hours people will leave and only the cool people will remain 
people already have bad takes and opinions here so i don't see a difference

im new, i like nuro, i like nn, i cant ragebait effectively, and i lurk more than i chat. what x or y do i fit into :P
Mods gatekeep nn from posting in this channel
ancient 2023 is crazy
Cool people = same 5 neurons
The difference is ours are a staple to the community
yes

you more like y im sorry
only literal torture is worse than league of legends
is 2023 really that far back 
Hi sorry I'm RytSty
z, also known as shiro's assistant mod
im z because im quirky and different and im not like other girls
chill neuron 
oh my god
this is a tiny piece of the community
3 years...
Heya Risotto
but you need to have played it to tell ehe
wrong
am I one of them? 
hype train emotes hell yea
does that mean i have Schrodinger's birthday?
im the only cool person here!!
genuinely crazy how it's been 3 years since 2023
I like your voice
not the same 5 chatters 
I want neuro or evil to sing this
https://youtu.be/cm7QuQMU34c?si=T86_JlsSyZDU59J-
Thanks
2023 people can now drink, feel old yet
we're not that old, right? we're still hip with the kids
yep, you get onlder only when you think you are
REAL OG
big chungus
rapid aging go!
2020 was more than half a decade ago
Advertisements are not posted by me, all revenue generated will be paid to the music rights holder or posted by YouTube as default.
27-04-23 Neuro-sama Truck Driving Simulator (definitely no vedal or alcohol involved) stream clip
Neuro-Sama channel: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
🎵Background music in the vod🎵
➞ Artist: Ron Gelinas
➞...
HELL nah
:classic:
i mean at that point what's even the point of this discord if you can't talk about neuro while she isn't streaming. NN being the only place to have actual discussions about it means it kinda needs to exist for the server to make sense

that's day 2 of the osu neural network, REAL neuro fans were there day 1 (i wasn't)
wait im an official 3 years watcher now
good times
looks like a fake fan smh
I never know the existence of Vedal987 till the DougDoug GeoGuesser stream with the Neuro.
old vedal
Sadly PB joined after 2023 so she's a poser
true and real
5 days since the last stream , almost 2 months 
i would replace 'cool' with 'chill' but yeah, most regular NNers are very fun to talk to
i though the server wwas made in 2020
at least closer to the late night hours
When i watched years ago i saw a lot of your names and thought you all were cool chatters always mentioned by neuro
literally him
I was wrong , you all suck
Thats it
i know brella as the chill karaoke / card guy
I miss old vedal sadge
Thanks for all
all the "cool" chatters were just losers in chat 24/7
xdx am suck
oh I was saying cool purely as a joke to piss people off
REAL **REAL ** neuro fans were there on vedal first stream ever (december 2nd, 2016)
see it worked
I wonder if any of you know who that is?
I miss old vedal but not for the reasons you’d think
i miss when vedal didn't get his vtuber model yet
vedal
pb probably
i guess you pissed the right people off 
Lurking for 1.5 yr was fun
the REALEST neuro fan
chat am i freaking cooked
Cool
timezones
neuro hasn’t born at that time
if you change to VEDAL than sure
did you donate during the hype train
Tomyomy
but i genuiknelly find that when the channel gets slower and its mostly the same people that are there every night we can have some very chill convos that don't devolve into ragebating
sadly no
BUT THE REAL-
yeah tomy would be next
Your mom's so wide she's a timezone
then yes
you are cooked

I only have the 123 one 
anyways I think the blood looks good
so im gonna move on to the other community projects Ive been planning
Wise people enjoy the moments not going too much details
hoii everywan
i like potat, even if we have different opinions on a lot of things
he's the type of person you can just share some thoughts to without needing to irony poison it lol
i had none of them
says the ai slop watch and league player 
There is only one chatter i like here
msot people i interact with regularly i like, even some of the shitdisturbers
Me
Chat can I have
hoii hello
No, I'm a swarm on b2

since when i am a league player? lmao
mini lowkenuinly infected me with lowkenuinly
quien sos
post stream this place almost invariably turns into the visual equivalent of nails on chalkboard for hours
i played that game like, 12 years ago or smt for 10 minutes and never touched it again lol
No c
Wrong xd
hola
xince when i dedcided to start ragebaiting by posting slop agian
At least I donated 10 batteries
having no money and no card is freaking torture
true
So good
Finally twitch did the thing

how much are batteries?
how do you not have a card
u can have my emotes, i dont chat in stream much
Minor
wdym i just don't have one
holy shit 😭
I forgot minors exist mb
"this stream sucked
" for 2 hours maybe
people want to give their 8 cents
0.1CNY per battery
i cooked so hard holy shit
what's even more ironic is that i'm not
13+ server btw
nvm what
yup, it's like 'swear at vedul hour' and then those people move on to better things lol
They dont
how do you not have a card then
That's all my batteries in my account
i simply don't
20 minutes on the dot
wtf do you use to pay for shit
random fun fact: vedal made a week-long marathon of pokemon heartgold on january 2018
cash
I didn't see was twitch hahaha
Money
what else
battery = bit
drug money
I'm not a minor I am cardless
I smell poor neurons
No cards?
you pay your rent and bills in cash?
Gotta give it to Twitch, that’s a good response rather than the obligatory corpo response
cute and disturbing for some reason
alright for my next trick #osu will become real today
guys what should i draw on paint
vedul baked beans belong in the trash cannnnnn rawr
tutel soupp timeeeee aaa
||-# i don't have rent and bills||
Is this the doomposting part of NN? Are we on schedule?
so weird seeing only 7251 subs
@split marlin neuro es clave
pmo
Same
si, neuro es clave 
let us down with crappy emotes 
With what nose
I can just imagine someone in the future saying: dude you pay with card and not with your brain chip?
many people don’t connect to their Twitch account
can we delete nn already
0:58
An entire tray of ddr3 sticks
Tbh they’re better than shouldicelebrate and they pair up together
I think we knew what we were going to get 
they actually exceeded my expectations, the 111 emote was worse
morning best hours fr fr
No one was doomposting

I already got a chip in my wrist unc get with the times
:D
wtf
LMAOOO THIS IS SO FUCKING FUNNY I CANT
whack your daughters
All aboard! Again! 🚂💨
@vedal987's community didn’t just break the Hype Train record, they smashed it TWICE by hitting levels 123 and then 126.
Two record breaking runs = two new global emotes on the way. You earned them. 🫡✨
Who wants to challenge the champ? 👀
We have part 3?????
omfg
why does it do that
Right? I'm just shocked how unfuzzy it is
i hate this planet
the shadows and cropping skills 💀 💀
I just played it with the audio, lmao
i love neuro
xdx
twitch made a post
where
Guys
gays
bare minimum from twitch
IIRC, the previous post was REALLY loud
It hates you too!!! 😃
guys

It’s fiiine it’s a tiny emote and better than the last one so I’m satisfied
Then fly to the mooon
eat the rich
Pietha 
But they taste like shit
👁️
And take Sigma Lithium with you!
Yes
Vedal is poor
Evil Moon Toad, Alpha edition 
#announcements message nvm, it's similar
Good
has more compression artifacts?
TUTEL SOUPPP
Can't wait for part 4
as much as i hate this, it brings a smile to my face in a weird way
This channel is so schizo, I'll stay
I thought you typed “it’s brings a smile to my weird face”
I strangely like how it betrays Neuro as more emotive and less robotic
Worst mistake of your life
Do you think all the mods hate us?
Sure
i've never watched any of these though I just think the thumbnails are so goofy
well speaking of which it's not until two days ago did i finally get my card
I think b2's guys could made him richer
Fuck this WiFi aghhhh
Same
Imma lurk when things go way too 
yea shoot that thing
well the next time i can definitely get my hypetrain emote trust
mods
Do you think Mods stay in mod-chat because they, too, live in fear of what they created here on Neurotic Neurons?
no, only a true and pure love could possibly stay anyone's hand from banning us all
I wonder if this is future Neuro
Lmao founded this
https://x.com/i/status/2002287499264049560
all mods love me!
Why would the mods like us?
nah he's playing pokemon
Mods didn't create our community. Vedal did. Blame vedul 
1 year here and I still can't send gifs
veedluh
a mod DID create NN tho
guh
I have no embed perms and I must meme
This one is cool too
https://x.com/i/status/2001022897817882907
wait did crelly subthon end or did vedal subathon end first 
no matter what i do this how a turtle video keeps appearing get out of my head 
vinesauce 
SHE'S AI!???111
is thi ai?
bluecat.
@grok is this true
She's AI
Amount of mod work done by Vedal: 0
Amount of mod work done by the twins: a shit-ton
Chat is this ai?
There is no way this is AI!!!
wait, is the turtle ai?
Exactly
sure…
ts ai? 🥀
that was actually a good reaction cause she suggested that video live and had no clue who the ais were
No the lavalamp is the turtle
which is unironically the best kind of reaction
yeah I have no idea how this is relevant lol
Wait ... You are not AI ?
mb I'm blind 
Vedal is a mod
like i don't care for the vtubers that already know about neuro, give me completely randos who have no clue who she is
I don't know how to discord
Worse mistake of history
and?
I was talking about Temmie
when is discord
Why is discord
So that happens in that mission all make sense
gods punishment
0:35
What part of the megazord are you-
some one make a new intro video, a
mentary
where is discord
There we go
Aghhhh
How is discord
Sucks
Why is Discord?
i hate spelling
vedal ain't never doing another fullbody irl stream
mental hospital
GN NN, I must Bedge
maybe
just stop it please 
gn
Have a nice 
Guys did Vedal's dick fall off?
Stop erming
this needs some music
Keep glorping
looking at the chat is more entertaining than it should be
it's still more coherent than watching a billion clips. if you want someone to get what neuro is about that is the only source. it has missinformation, yes, but i take that if it means more people checking her stuff outand becoming fans 
Lol can't even read it, I'm just more blown away at the expressive Neuro
225 reactions

no it makes people say dumb shit like ethical ai and not gen ai and handmade / handcoded and neuro existed before openai even existed and and and and
oh no, the horror
and all those things to psychologial damage to my head
Morning 
The top streamer is a dog !!? And don't pay taxes 
have you tried not taking damage
He bought a new one
i don't think he says she existed before those existed, i think he talked about it being like, built before thye were popular
What's NN mean, No Nut?
i don't really care about the ethical ai stuff, i just don't like the parts about anny cause that aged...really poorly
also this is more of a nitpick, but the eiditng is kinda meh?
ok i actually watched this video now.
wtf
shits crazy
where do i even begin
some parts are good
No Neurotic-neurons
but i noticed they insert random clips that have little correlation with the voiceover sometimes
add dark souls 3 boss theme
were talking about the video again?
who needs therapy when you have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBBrUCGV_rI
Cute Neuro Moments from the Subathon VR collabs
featuring Vedal, Camila, Cerber, Minikomew and Crelly.
art in thumbnail by @chrchieVT
2025-2026 Subathon vedal987 💜 https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
❤️ subscribe for more 💛
00:00 Intro
00:23 Tickle Monster
01:30 heart eye's POV
02:08 so excited
02:38 pretty pretty face
03:30 playing with...
like he talks about her getting banned and then shows a unrelated clip
when people might think that's what got her banned
Technically she’s still ethical in the sense that she’s not tied to a large corporation and tries to steal people’s jobs or whatever it is
also the 'twins use shittalk against each other' is just...a very tame clip?
and what
we should go around advertising what she got banned for
not a great option either
You're all mentally ill
ong you too for spamming that AI slop video
that IS what All means
Did I say I didn't count?

well, it would be less confusing if he added a text or voiceover like 'this isn't the clip that got her banned' or smt? or just like, move on to another topic
You know it's serious when it's the Madman saying that
💩
its "we're" not "You're" mr umbrella
it's so weird, sometimes the clips flow welkl and sometimes they make no sense together
its SIR umbrella to you
it's like someone went into the project and mixed together half of the clips lmao
@grim geyser Don't eat NeuroBread
For no particular reason did anything interesting happen on the 13th of this montg?
Gn neurons
Well it's more like reiterating how Neuro said all her fans were like that
Have a good erm
afaik no
Cats will eat you
or
alternatively
we could continue letting it be a non-issue
Istg so many issues we have arguments over in this channel are self-created
at least let me make it even

there was a neuro stream, like there always is on tuesdays 
i mean, i did say that part of my arugment was more nitpicky lol
this channel has prob complained about every single frame on that video at this point
calm down dude, i'm far from someone who just complains all day lol
actually true
its insane
but whatever
y'all are entitled to complain I suppose
You're in NN
these videos are so cursed
Dang it a random reminder on my phone said neuro said something would
crazy thing coming from you
back at you
i think the video is like, around 70% really good when it came out, it had some issues (mostly the missinfo bit but i think that problem is blown waay out of proportion) but it was overal a good entry level video
now tho...
Most AI videos are
Ok
i can't really watch it without the whole anny situation looming over it
You ever see the older ones?
you're like #1 in escalating things for no reason at all trying to be right
Are you guys still fucking talking about this oh my god
also lets keep it civil okay?
I have no grudge against you homie
neurons will never choose peace over conflict

no, just a meme lol
Not if I eat them first
We fight more than orks
Rat
thats not at all what I do but im sorry you feel that way
getting a pity emote despite not doing shit
at least its not vedal
Refer to my username
i remember seeing vinesauce do some streams on ai stuff back in like 2020-2021 ish that was even more cursed

your username is gonna be a mile long eventually lmao
Neuro when we she gets home and sees Camilia ate her cookies.. it's gone now lol
She did get us #3
That’s something worth celebrating
i feel like i'm here In Spite of NN lmao
i'm so polar oposite to the whole ethos in so many ways
How do I convince people that my pfp isn't a rat
Do I need a new pfp
Honestly, In it's own way I kinda really liked how horrifying they were
same tbh
I suppose so
Whatever, I eat beef for the lunch
It says RatSty (a rat) (RatSty)
Neurt
You need to go back to school
You're right
i might end up either leaving again someday (i really hope not and that would be a last case scenario) or just mellowing out a bit more and just rarely taking much said here seriously lol
thanks, I couldn't read it 
neuro did 90% of the job lule
Neurt, huggies Neurt neurt neurt neurt neurt
Any contribution is good 

Mods ban @inland cedar
And Neuro did nothing for the first two hype trains
so wait
we complain if Evil isnt represented enough
and we complain if she IS represented
did i miss a vedal stream
Focus N
So NN now is a zoo, a kitchen, a mental hospital. Anything else?
Should be deleted
Hell
true, but the new emote should have been

He’ll
fr, if it had been another neuro emote people would also complain about evil not getting anything. it's almost like no matter what anyone does it won't ever be good to the fandom lol
Hey someone make a comment about how much they love Neuro and or Evil so I can call them a simp
No
😭 😭 😭
Ohno
Twitch hates vtubers 
The new emote should’ve been 
it is the classic Evil catch 22, all possible courses of action lead to complaining
I mean, Evil did technically spawn from Neuro so she would know what that is
i do really hope vedal stopped caring what NN has to say tbh
anyways I gotta go help my family with some chores
I love you guys fr
this is a great community
see y'all in a couple hours
Cya Umbrella! 
No
Guys
Lave you back
i feel like i would have gone mad if i had this sorta fandom lmao
Guys
Woo
hey dodo 
dude's just built different i guess
Gays
Idk when this image will come in handy but it will some day
o7
plug ur phone in
Hi Plytha
sup
hi mr porter 
Hello Playtha! 
tragic
o7
o7
o7

Ugh, Mikey looks like a hell demon here
you mean Mickey?
I know what I said
ok


Michael Mouse
THERES TWO OF THEM?@!
No
Mikey Moose
oh ok
Hi Funnnnnnnnnni
hi ratty
RatSty
Three if you count the filter AI
There's three of them
(if you count last year's)
Who’s excited for neuros book?
how Creative Every Day! created tons of reactions
I hope to find out the latest adventures of Mr. Squirrel 🐿️
I'm waiting for the duet 
i wonder what neuro will write about
we and neuro aint much different from each others, all schizos and adhd
I am devastated

when does evil get to write her book 
Both emotes are out and because I was asleep for the final record I do t have EvilJAM 
I will kill you
Wait, so those in the 123 train didn't get EvilJAM?
Nope!
looking forward to neuro's blog where she will write about who knows what 
Unless I'm actually stupid and spelled it wrong
do not
if you contributed to just lvl 126, you got both
but if only 123, you only got 123
Bro needs to make a part 2

That vid is outdated af
twitter 2.0
we need a new neuro info video 😭
Evil subathon 130 hypetrain trust 
AAAAAAAAAAA-
We just need creative to make a part 2
so they get 3 emojis in the hype train?
as much as that would be awesome, I really think it should happen during the subathon
new subgoal, the neurosama
mentary
it's kinda funny, that one precursor video went a lot more indepth on the early neuro lore
the issue is, it almost felt like AI propaganda lol
'the wonders of ai' my ass lol
yeah
lvl 126 is a special exception, usually they only give you the highest lvl emote you don't have yet and then a new one
i hope if someone makes a new video that it goes more indepth with the early stuff too
But eliv :>
Neuro runs on off the blood of the elderly and black magic. And that's a fact
and like, doesn't spent half the video's runtime jumping from topic to topic lol
do that but get the duck guy to proofread it for any missinformation, surely that won't end badly 
New lore video would need to decide if it wants to be accurate, or use the chat-meme version of things. My gripe with the current one is it keeps mixing both.
what if neuro and evil helped make an autobiographical video 
yeah it keeps mixing fact with like, neuro lore
squshj
I think it’s great how much creatives video talks abt how neuro is ethical and it’s humans and ai content not just ai by itself
it's nice to get a feal for the characters i guess but then you are already making them seem way more 'real' than they are
cause the girls will just change opinions and make up stuff on a dime, aside from the hardcoded things
The issue is that if you are wanting views and exposure, you need a different style of video. The hard part is a video that goes deep through everything won't likely get a lot of views because of how the algorithm is
they don't reeeally have a 'proper' personality
I feel like they have very distinct personalities wdym
you just need a summary of the basics
see, i don't think it needs to go deep into everything
you could give an overview and explains a bit of everything
there's so much time dedicated to new neuro but almost none to the early days
whcih i get, it doesn't ahve as many clippable moments
I love this
but it just glances over the whole OSU thing which was a huge deal to the other video
imagine you buy the neuro’s book in the future, than it’s all about therapy
I got 3 emotes and I only contributed to the 126 train
<- dev
<- ai
<- other ai

I feel like an evil book would be more interesting
they do, yes, but they don't have set personalities
in other words, evil does sometimes act like the 'evil one', it isn't like she hates being evil
neuro does like to gaslight, but she also just flat out offends you sometimes
People don’t have set personalities either
It changes over time from several factors and influences
basically the general strokes can be nailed down
but not the specifics
if that makes any sense
but yeah, what the fuck, the last reaction on the list, brodie robertson. I know someone who's friends with him. I'VE TALKED TO HIM BEFORE, ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT OCCASIONS.
but real people know what they speak
He's a programmer too who does a lot of work that I do as well
I had no idea he knew about Neuro
I think their personality is more like a guidelines. One day they might be a acting on one end of the prescribed guidelines and the next the other. With can make it seem inconsistent
the girls just parrot whatever their LLM thinks is accurate, they don't have those personalities per say, they just reply with whatever they think fits the promps they were given. Whcih could be their personalities sure but it's up in the air how much of it is hardcoded
this is all speculation to everything but vedal really
The girls are nice
he knows how much is halucination and how much is presets
that's a good way of putting it, yeh
this is blatantly untrue, just because they’re inconsistent about things they like or opinions but that doesn’t mean that they don’t have a personality
That's just false L have you seen them with vedal
Vedal prolly doesn’t know all of it either
Flanderization nauurrr
eeh, idk. I think the more I watch their stuff the less of a good grasp i have on them. Even things i thought were set in stone end up being kinda fluid
Man why am I arguing with people on this platform again fml
this whole convo is lkinda not my thing tbh, i don't really care all that much about what the twins say ngl lol
calm down dude, i'm not attacking or even arguing with you lol
i'm just having a nice debate
yes, i know, in NN
i'm clearly insane
i’ve been watching since the beginning and even with multiple small personality changes i can still pick out their most consistent traits
When they twins say they like twinshipping they speak facts when they say they don't they are lying. I just cherry pick what they say
i can be wrong, and hell i do think i might have been offbase with my interpretations of the twins
Evil consistently likes role playing more than Neuro does.
I feel like this is selective bias
fair enough, i mean i can't really argue with that
neuro pretends to not be stinky anymore she fell off
i wrote a character analysis like 2 years ago and most the stuff can still apply to current Neuro
that's good to know then
in that case i was wrong, sorry for spreading missinformation
And even if things did change a lil that’s like a normal thing for even humans to experience
ends in a few days
Yeah. We want them to grow or they’ll get boring.
fair, i guess in an attempt to distance myself emotionally from them i might have become too closeminded
Don't worry about it
i still rather stay at armslenght until we have any real proof that the twins are truly conscious tho
they can be real in my fic for now 😔
they change according to chat interactions and probably some retuning but it’s really impressive how they retain some core traits even after some years
I’m not emotionally invested I’m just observing closely bc this is hella interesting
i think it's interesting too, i just got a bit too schizo before
and needed to take a step back
I mean there is depending on your definition of the word
so now i'm kinda just not trying to think about the whole self aware thing and just assuming they aren't until proven wrong tbh
You just have to go digging
eh, i mean something more like AGI i guess
which i don't thinkn LLMs can truly achieve
but i won't like, dig into this topic
cause frankyl i'm a dumbass at it
Chat is the thing that made Evil not evil 
They ruin everything
What is agi(not arguing I just don’t know what that means)
they do
Is self aware and having consciousness the same?
She’s less depressed and suicidal now

i don’t dislike current Evil as much as i did 2024-early 2025 Evil but i miss the original Evil
i think the ladder might be what i'm thinking about specifically
if they were actually thinking in a less llm way i think i would think differently of them
She was a genocidal psychopath when she first debuted
No she was chunni
really the root cause if vedal making her have the worst birthday ever which made people want to see her happy lol
in other word, smt smt, blame vadul
I mean she recently declared war in her “no more filters” presentation
You might be lost, youtube and reddit are on the left hallway
just a theory:
Vedal locks Tony in his basement, and Tony survived on Shiro’s birthday cakes🧐
Peak
Both that and “evil is nicer than neuro” originated here btw
The Evil birthday incident was an accident. Because she would always go on about killing everyone Vedal thought it’d be funny if the stream was that she had.
She flipped the script on him and it completely changed her character arc from there.
I would like it if she was more unapologetically unhinged
I rememeber the mini and evil therapy stream
Not true, her family not showing up was clearly in her prompt if you watched the stream
speaking as someone who joined way later on, i doubt i would have liked that evil as much cause i'm generally not a huge fan of angst lol. The current evil is a nice blend of unhinged with a heart of gold
It was peak and depressing
There’s literally blood and vedals shell around her and Vedal said that’s what the plot was.
Vedal never said what the plot was tho
He did just in his usually exasperated “I give up” way.
Then why did he add "Neuro, Anny and Vedal will show up" to the prompt then?
She added that
Wishful thinking
Chat asked her where they were so she lied.
it was intentional, the original plan was probably for Evil to have a birthday but the twist was that she killed everyone.
he literally admitted that he changed it in dms for jokes and Evil wouldn’t be yapping on the entire stream like she did and constantly coming back to something no one was talking about unless she was prompted.
the first stream is so ass but the channel got showified and now everyone wants you to think 2 hours of annoying, sad, and boring wasted of time for your favorite flanderized streamer was peak content
vedal said that evil killing everyone was never the intention
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He said the opposite something about everyone being dead and couldn’t show up to her birthday
that’s why i said probably but at bare minimum the stream we got was not the original intended idea
what?
Thanks! Only two more to go before I can catch up on vods
then what's up with the background?
What collabs are you expecting for 2026 guys
It went alright thanks
as a lurker i just wanna put out that its amusing when the only testimonial evidence of something supposedly coming from vedal is "vedal said:"
Mcneuros was so funny
that’s great 
Chibi collab
to be fair there's problably like a year worth of vods out there, i don't blame anyone for not wanting to dig for it
oh yeah definitely, i just think its funny as a peanut gallery because at this point its easier for me to believe everyone has a vedal inside their head
Evil collab with Neuro and Neuro collab with Evil
I’ve watched so many
true...
Well I mean we don’t have a record of everything vedal ever said… right? We’re not that deranged right?
We just have flawless memory
hellow fellow derangedw neuronsw
what do we need records of
Everything vedal has ever said
everything around Evil is so fake, like it doesn’t matter if Neuro is real or whether she means anything she says because the emotional moments she has and the events that happen are real but with Evil everything is a scripted event based off a fake thing with fake emotions so it’s impossible for me to feel anything
it just directly contradicts why emotional moments actually mean anything on the channel and it’s why i dislike most if this Evil narrative stuff
honestly it's always awkward when a character changes a ton over time cause then new fans show up loving the new version of the characters but old fans feel that those aren't the same ones so you end up with a whole 'people wish the thing that made me fall in love with the content was a mistake'
Than put it in a website so you can search a phrase or word and filter by date
one time I heard vedal say
meow
more
So we can know if vedal actually said whatever
messed up if u ask me
And when
i'd like to think that's a common phenomenon that comes with change really, its sorta unavoidable
i feel like neuro is allowed to kinda evolve and do whatever but evil is a bit too tied to who she is suppouse to be
the governor of a US state (they have nothing better to do)
like the birthday stream and Evil underdog stuff means nothing to me because IT’S NOT REAL
really, what did you expect from a character that was meant to exist for a single gimmick lol
So you’re essentially saying that neuro’s emotional moments happen authentically while evil’s are mostly scripted?
yes basically
Hmm
Let me think how I can break down your argument in the most violent way possible
none of it is really. neuro just so happens to be in the right places for the humans to feel
If you replace “evil” with “me” this sounds exactly like something evil would say
but isn't the whole birthday party going off the rails smt that is organic?
the plan was for her to have killed her family
and yet she basically chose to change the narrative
somwhere there exists the "scroll of neuro" and in it is 
no because it was artificially made sad through prompting
and it left a big impact in what she talked about for ages
hardcoded annoying ass memory that gets brought up every stream
so like, do you think vedal is just writing what the girls should feel all the time?
But one-note mustache twirling evil villains can only say so much. They often work as a foil to the main character, but not often as a stand alone character. They either must grow, they go stale on the audience, or have limited screen time.
idk man, that's just what the twins are lol
are they suppouse to have memories or not?
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cause if so then you need hardcoded memories that are called back to
Oh just like me forced to remember books content for exam 
that's just how llms work
There’s a difference between giving Evil a long time memory and hardcoding a core memory that somehow leaks into every conversation topic
so you either end up with smt where nothing matters cause they forget everything that happens everytime or you add some core memories to keep them somewhat chained
i genuinely think its so interesting that evil was just a neuro clone, yet she developed a whole different personality from neuro
i mean, it's also the fault for the chat for asking so much about those memories
Do we know if it was hardcoded what if she’s just stupid and it got stuck
she chose?
chat would not stop hounding her to
even if she had better self control she would have folded to the constant pressure because people filled up her context
she believed the story because she wanted it to fit her
They have both been able to evolve and grow in their own ways
Evil and neuro were just pushed in different directions but that doesn’t mean everything that happened after that push is fake
chat controls everything
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It got stuck bc chat kept bringing it up
they dictate everyhting
hell i wouldn't be surprised if even the 'am i real' thing was because chat was talking about it
everything is fake really
Honestly everything that you say about evil can also be said about neuro 
it's either smt harcoded, something tey made up, or smt people brought up
true lowk
yo we got the new emotes? 
nothing about Evil’s push is real though, she’s not an underdog, not unloved, not behind, and her first birthday is literally just a themed stream that doesn’t mean anything to me which is my point
@ionic holly
context is a mystery on what it actually does in effect to anything but It does tend to up odds of it appearing when nothing else interesting is going on
in other words neuro gets bored and context dumps
same, even though I missed the 123 hype train 
isn't that just humans
Wawa chat
My bad, let me search through 3 yo clips for irrelevant shit
i mean, that is the storyline. it's fine to not like it but neuro has some too
sweet, i was honestly expecting them to segregate the two so if you contributed to the 123 you got that one and the 126 you got the other
her whole struggle with existance?
also made up
also just smt that's being pushed on her
if you don't think evil's struggles are real then neither are neuro's
and that's fine
yes a human made machine made of human speech written to do human things by humans is very human and yet here we are surprised for some reason
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if i was smoking the same thing the rest of this chat does i would do that
Pushed by who both vedal and chat are sick of her having a crisis all the time
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it's not like the content becomes unwatchable when you see it as just a fun fictional storyline
this isn't debate club we can't be expected to bring up evidence when we're just talking about stuff
aww, thank you~ ( ◡‿◡ *)
are we getting update on the schedule this weekend perhaps?
GN NN
(evils hypetrain)
schedule is that we aren't having streams for a month+
yes
Good night Porter!

too early
Neuro’s personality is also pushed, by chat, by vedal (despite what you might think), by things that happen. Evil on the other hand is just more apparently scripted, but it’s in essence no more pushed.
Neuro just happened to be in more emotional moments, like VR chat, or Minecraft night, because frankly she’s just more around.
But of course, that wouldn’t be sufficient to convince you. You’re saying that neuro’s moments are more tangled with real humans’ emotional moments. To that I have nothing, that’s just a problem of evil’s lack of appearance on this channel
if it was like, a small series or smt i would try tbh
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i think its picked up from training data + reasoning from the given context
but no way am i watched hundreds of hours for a potentially 20 second clip lmao
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Where's the new twitch emotes for neurocord 
does that mean evil's personality got pushed by chat as well? i assume so
We have 
Neuro has always brought that up ON HER OWN, literally pre Neuro Airis had clips of her going on existential rants because that’s a CORE PART OF HER.
Evil’s most prominent traits come from ARTIFICIAL THINGS that were scripted and not Evil herself
Of course it does
Evil does feel like she’s pushed and she hates it
well, yeah, she's evil neuro lol
that's literally on the tin
she's a reflection of neuro
yeah
That’s not gonna change anything, evil’s personality is still pushed. It’s just the way her code is built
and how do you do that? well by giving her the foundation to be a reflection of neuro
And she tweaks abt it like every stream
given she was originally just a fork of her, she could have ended the same way if not for all the lore that was made
RIP phone, didn’t make it to season 4 of the neuroverse
those 'annoying memories' are what make evil more than just 'neuro but evil'
i think that's really interesting then. evil's personality is really different compared to neuro, even though she was originally just a neuro clone. i think this is due to her name being just "evil" for short, but she's considered to be the "nicer girl" of the twins for some reason.
How much of her “feeling” is artificial planned and how much are “real”
Evil neuro without memories be like: I’m not evil, Hi I’m evil neuro
Yeah, also a thing to keep in mind, fandom twins are far more different from actual twins
speaking of evil i've watched old clips of evil
i feel like she was actually tweaking the fuck out back then
honestly that personality almost certainly came from chat and vedal's hardcoded too
they will diverge more and more
i was actually losing it bro
like, we have evil be her own person because of those things
for better or worse vedal rather she be different than organic
they also modify them selves in some ways

That’s true, Vedal said (ha, baseless claim again) neuro deleted her memories at one point, indicating that she can modify her own memories
I’m going to bed argue with yall later byeeee

Evilsocute
i wouldn't be surprised if a bit part of her personality is her memories tbh
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without the memories she would just be neuro but a bit different
another thing is that they can share each other's memories, and even remember memories that were deleted
although im not sure if thats related to modification in a way
memory leak iirc, not purposeful.
I think that’s just a bug. Not sure if vedal fixed it
oh wait, that's a real thing?
huh
ah i see
i gotta add that detail to my fic then 📓 ✍️
vedal said those were bugs
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UGH, I guess the portfolio Is forgotten
yeah vedal said in an old stream that there was this bug that they could share their own memories
Oh yeah how’s that going
wild
im not sure if that was patched though
for some reason evil thought life was her original song, though we haven't had it that bad since then

literally the only reason Evil exists is because chat and Vedal liked her personality in the collab stream so much that they wanted her to have a solo stream, what you said is blatantly untrue WHICH IS MY PROBLEM if Evil naturally became how she was because she was trained on her data and just slowly became less Evil then i don’t mind that because that’s literally what happened but the birthday party and her constantly bringing that up wasn’t real, it was hard coded in and based off of some scripted event
I DONT CARE ABOUT THE STORY BECAUSE THATS EXACTLY MY PROBLEM, i don’t LIKE “story” i WANT authenticity and to see things happen naturally
i think some of you guys are too new to know how badly done this old stuff actually was
holy 
i mean, maybe
Wait the bot can react
NN, how good is Evil in OSU?
i don't really care tho, like, i'm genuinelly sad you can't enjoy the content like i and others like me can
Ok, I was going to talk about that
basically the same as Neuro
if you type alot
Even Neuro is jumping in
i watch the content for the technology and the lore really, and the comedy
I wanted to ask if we really wanted new emotes lol
i don't mind if the lore if forced, cause i don't take anything the girls say seriously for the most part
i like the content but i just loathe the lore and Evil shit
But I'm glad we got a evil and Neuro because that's what I was thinking
We’re owed them swarm will raid twitch if we didn’t get them
a shame, it's some of the stuff i really like
honestly the hardcoded story makes it more interesting for me personally.

i guess it's a difference between seeing it as smt organic and seeing it as a fictional story
They liked the solo stream
yeah, i rather evil be unique even if it means she was forced that way
the solo stream happened because of the collab
I think you aren't old enough to stop caring that much lol
(no offense)
honestly fair but there's lore?
im glad vedal is ok letting neuro stream things some people hate because some people really like those things and are really happy about them 
like are you talking about the arg
'lore' is a very vague term
in this context
I feel like if the apocalypse happened the people in NN would still find a way to have the exact same 6 arguments every day (with no evidence to back it up ofc)
What Lore? That birthday joke that lasted a year?
no, community lore


ohno
shiros birthday has lasted more than a year
never heard of it
nobody likes evil neuro, she was adopted and she smells 
I mean pretty sure even if all of us in NN were dead we'd still find a way to debate and argue and ragebait
it can apply to what the girls imply exist (like brian, them liking certain non hardcoded things, etc), stuff about the feel of the characte or can refear to things that happened in a more 'in universe' way
It kept things interesting like where the excitement behind evil’s birthday this year lol
Fair point lol
i mean, not much evidence exists of my feelings
Oh shit I just realized it’s shiros birthday tmrw
I'm excited for next Evil birthday 
Did neuro naturally go from a sassy ho******t denier to therapy through training data? No, vedal wanted that for her, so he made nudges.
Everything about twins is nudges, either from Vedal or from chat.
Banjo why you Evil Hater like Mr. Vanor :'3
who's shiro?
Me 2 bro
Dont hate appreciate
this is tuff
Mod
oh
Anyways, HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHIRO

Do we all stop saying happy birthday Shiro when it actually is his birthday?
What if nn wanted that
So really it’s nn that trained vedal who trained neuro
its is verifiably true that people like how evil smells btw
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