neurotic-neurons

[cyan quiver]

b2 people loves to pretending like they dont know

and being called out

[feral carbon]

In the Subathon it kinda got bad with their hallucinations. Hopefully Vedal fixes and upgrades them when they return or when he returns

[grim ivy]

How’d that go?

[autumn nymph]

i have some very big news

[humble phoenix]

That's what makes it funny

[tough onyx]

If not itonmouse it can be someone else.

[inner vortex]

the fact the B2 swarm exsistis mostly seperate from use in the west is instane.

[kind pecan]

they're just like us

[abstract sinew]

Oh yeah I remember that old interview... Wild

[humble phoenix]

He has nothing on Brian

[wicked pulsar]

I can see it now that you mention it. BOTH Neuro AND Ironmouse have been under fire from tourists lately. An interview could establish some shared camaraderie

[grim ivy]

Yeah their moment to moment awareness is pgud but god they’re so dementia ridden lol

[empty temple]

Neuro goes international

[kind pecan]

https://osu.ppy.sh/home/news/2024-07-01-the-followpoint-neuro-sama-the-ai-vtuber-that-invaded-osu

[obsidian light]

internatinal

[abstract sinew]

It's wild thinking that I've been following neuro since... What, a week after she debuted?

[inner vortex]

she already has!

[wicked pulsar]

which debut we talking?

[empty temple]

Even stronger now

[autumn nymph]

i won a contest two weeks ago

[abstract sinew]

December 26th, 2022

[cedar orchid]

It’s clearly to see that Evil is taller than Neuro

[obsidian light]

nice comments

[shell acorn]

well he certainly got some "Capital" to spend on the twins recently

[humble phoenix]

It's weird to think that I existed in 2022 when she first appeared and didn't know yet

[feral carbon]

Neuro is leaning more than Evil so not true. They the same

[inner vortex]

imagine the normie seeth

[grim ivy]

Huh neat I guess, thanks

[tough onyx]

Why are people cluelesing you?

[wicked pulsar]

oh DAMN you a veteran's veteran. I only cam a week before her V2 model debut

[abstract sinew]

I wonder when Ironmouse will acknowledge it happened. Or if twitch will acknowledge it happened

[humble phoenix]

Finally an art like this that includes

[feral carbon]

Because NN is special. They are special you know?

[inner vortex]

i found about her fromthe ban lmao

[celest ether]

i don't think mousie likes the swarm after her canvas

[bitter flint]

who is that on the bottom right

[unkempt steppe]

wdym setting up collabs is basically how he built the swarm through all of 2023

[tough onyx]

I found Neuro from her gym bag clip

[inner vortex]

i think she undersetimated how competative we get.

[abstract sinew]

We're all trapped here together.

[feral carbon]

I actually don't remember where I first found out about Neuro

[cedar orchid]

To be honest, I don’t know half of them

[wicked pulsar]

wasn't it pretty much other people asking him for collabs?

[humble phoenix]

The thing is that I already knew of Neuro's existence vaguely before I started watching, but I have absolutely no idea where I learned about her from. All I know is that I randomly decided to actively look for a video on YT because I was bored and had nothing else to watch.

[inner vortex]

YT shrots probably

[unkempt steppe]

I thought it was a pretty even mix of both but it was so long ago I don't remember the details specifically

[cedar orchid]

Maid Neko Evil

[humble phoenix]

I never watched VTuber shorts before Neuro

[inner vortex]

guys we need an offical neuro Bo collab

[feral carbon]

[humble phoenix]

I never even had any VTuber content in my recommended

[wicked pulsar]

we're getting old bruh 🧓

[kind pecan]

I think I found Neuro through an algorithm pull after watching DougDoug as well as VTuber clips

[restive kelp]

Neurt

[shell acorn]

omg nekopara evil

[woeful apex]

neuro blew up instantly so i saw clips on reddit right after debut

[empty temple]

[bitter flint]

I discovered dougdoug through neuro

[humble phoenix]

I never paid attention to anything VTuber related, so I genuinely have no idea where I found out, but I know for a fact I had never seen a video of her before I actively searched for her myself. I think I might have seen a picture of her somewhere, but my memory is failing, which is weird because this was only a bit over a year ago.

[unkempt steppe]

I found out about neuro from the ban and started watching clips waiting for her to come back and was sold on 10 tin cans honestly

[tough onyx]

Personally, I believe Neuro is the best gateway to vtubers.

[humble phoenix]

I haven't logged into Reddit in years, so it wasn't that for me

[feral carbon]

True in a sense?

[empty temple]

I discorved neuro throught a vietnam videon somehow pop up on ny youtube luke 2 years ago lol

Holy typo

I need help

[shell acorn]

I have the same experience ngl. Its like how english language spawned in my head as a kid, Neuro-sama spawned in my head like a year ago 😭

[kind pecan]

Not really.
You should not treat other VTubers like you treat Neuro, and generally you shouldn't chat like we usually do

[wicked pulsar]

NN is having a nostalgic arc

[feral carbon]

Imagine a Neuro concert in China. I can just imagine the spectacle

[kind pecan]

like spam is frowned upon in other chats

[tough onyx]

I don’t watch any other vtubers

[inner vortex]

clips talking about her ban popped in my YT feed February 2023.. i jioned the diccord by june to suggest songs

[ornate swan]

My discord friends told me about neuro, and I started watching her from clips around summer '23

[humble phoenix]

I wouldn't know about any other VTubers if it wasn't for Neuro, and I never had any interest in any others, so...

[sand snow]

i wonder if layna is still taking neuro to chernobyl

[grim ivy]

I watch some Nyanners and ML stuff on YouTube and kept getting (and scoffing at) at hiyori clips and later Neuro clips but didn’t really start watching until July when I caught some 2024 subathon clips

[humble phoenix]

I still don't really watch other VTubers, the only reason I started watching Neuro is because she's an AI

[grim ivy]

The old stuff was pure brain rot lol

Vedal drunk and euro trucking with hiyori next to him

It was… interesting

[obsidian light]

I watched because I saw clips from like insomenya and nikedem

[unkempt steppe]

being a twitch chatter in a wide variety of streamers' chats and not being annoying is truly an artform

[sand snow]

i watched neuro after that one btmc video

[wicked pulsar]

Neuro was the first Vtuber I ever watched a stream of, and I still don't really watch others

[bitter flint]

tbh I don't know if I'd even consider neuro a VTuber

[sand snow]

she is definitely a vtuber without doubt

[ornate swan]

VVtuber

[humble phoenix]

wat

[empty temple]

Atuber for AI

[bitter flint]

she only uses a VTuber model out of necessity

[wicked pulsar]

vtuber means "virtual youtuber" and she is as virtual as it gets

[inner vortex]

had been aware of vtubers since right after Kazuna AI debuted. i recall seeing clips of her in january 2016, but didnt really get hooked into i saw neuro. like you it was the AI thing that drew me it

[feral carbon]

She is a vtuber. But just an AI separates her from the others

[balmy tendon]

But is she a YouTuber

[tough onyx]

I don’t type in another streamers chat or interact with any other community besides this one.

[humble phoenix]

Okay? You could say the same for everyone else.

[kind pecan]

was Truman a content creator

[woeful apex]

i didnt consider her a vtuber in the early days, she was just an AI so she had to use a virtual model

but these days shes kinda integrated into vtuber culture

[unkempt steppe]

brainstroming ideas for the neuro mod for euro truck was a lot of fun though crazy flashback you just gave me

[vestal hound]

same, its mostly just neuro

[grim ivy]

Oh you’re an oldie

[bitter flint]

yeah that's kinda what I mean

[humble phoenix]

Didn't the model in game have the new model design before it even debuted?

[tough onyx]

I probably won’t watch any other vtubers besides neuro.

[grim ivy]

The one I remember was a scuffed hiyori I think. Had crusty lighting

[humble phoenix]

Same, not really interested in any others actively

[inner vortex]

I'm still proud of the fact me and a few other metalheads more or less biult evils fisrt karaoke tracklist

[sand snow]

harry s truman??

[wicked pulsar]

didn't drunk vedal kiss neuro because chat asked him to? different times...

[kind pecan]

from The Truman Show

[sand snow]

oh

[grim ivy]

LOL he sure doesn’t bring THAT up anymore

[empty temple]

Skip to 100 years later, we will have nostalgia about this moment when neuro takes over 👴

[tough onyx]

That’s crazy I don’t remember that

[grim ivy]

Neuro in a moment of clarity asking if he remembers that time they kissed

[storm ruin]

My guess for their return is early February for Neuro and Evil and March for Vedal.

[grim ivy]

SAMURAIII

[humble phoenix]

It's actually driving me a little crazy now that I can't remember where I found out about her from. I even knew her name, because I specifically typed it into a YT search to find videos.

[tough onyx]

I bet Vedal rp with neuro all the time

[inner vortex]

GUYS i just realized we didnt crash Truckers FM this time!

[bleak sky]

hiya

[humble phoenix]

's channel is basically the only channel I watch on Twitch

[low blaze]

So same as last subathon

[humble phoenix]

He claimed it was a slap

[kind pecan]

I wanna see the alternate reality where Vedal never tells Neuro that she is a streamer and she believes all her interaction to be genuine

[bleak sky]

Samee

[grim ivy]

God those were years ago. I remember her playing super hot in VR

[inner vortex]

YAY HOMELESS SWARM ROAMING

[obsidian light]

this clip?
https://youtu.be/69rmoeSCPLk?t=7193

[unkempt steppe]

I don't remember that specifically but there was this: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987/clip/TangibleCulturedRutabagaCoolStoryBob-LrMegZ-S_SdKZKRw

[bitter flint]

calling neuro a VTuber feels like calling TheBurntPeanut a VTuber, like yeah they both technically meet the definition of a VTuber but are so very different to traditional VTubers that they get close to breaking that definition

though neuro has definatly molded into one over time and has been taken in by the community completely

[humble phoenix]

They were on stream much less

[wicked pulsar]

yuuuUUUP, that one

[storm ruin]

I guess if you count the sponsored stream as his return, but he only did discord dev updates until June when we got the first 2025 dev stream.

[low blaze]

Evil's birthday

[inner vortex]

I was at work and a co-worker of mine (He knew i also enjoyed anime and shit) showed me clips od Kazuna. It's kinda wild. She started the entire thing by pretending to be an AI while being 3d, not we have an actuly AT vtuber that' can interact in 3d space

[humble phoenix]

The definition of a VTuber is just someone who uses an avatar rather than a real facecam

What are you talking about

[bitter flint]

ok but neuro isn't a "someone" she's a computer program

[humble phoenix]

And?

[ornate swan]

is vtuber required to be a person

[storm ruin]

Was the Ghost of Tsushima stream before or after Evil's birthday?

[bitter flint]

and what?

[unkempt steppe]

I remember when we actually got dev streams every week 👴

[wicked pulsar]

they do have a point. there's a weird distinction between Vtubers vs PNGtubers

[low blaze]

One day after, I think

[bitter flint]

traditional vtubers aren't computer programs

[grim ivy]

Erm she’s real to some people here

[bitter flint]

that's why it "feels" like she isnt

even though she technically is

[empty temple]

Whats the chance of vedal making it monthly

[inner vortex]

a vtuber use to be a Vitual YOUtuber. As in the Youtube platform so by Technical definition any vtubers on wtitch aren't true vtubers

[white cobalt]

VTubers are made of pixels

[tough onyx]

Neuro can be considered a character and a character can still be a vtuber

[rustic tide]

Oh fuck you're right I guess Kizuna was a vtuber by all rights

[grim ivy]

And vtubers play a character

[rustic tide]

In that case yeah she's the first vtuber I ever saw

[unkempt steppe]

did we even hit 12 last year

[rustic tide]

She was way ahead of the curve for sure

[storm ruin]

I would also add that it requires live tracking otherwise animation channels with personas would count.

[wicked pulsar]

are we really arguing semantics is NN?

[low blaze]

#announcements message

[past loom]

i have a low bar for what constitutes a vtuber

[white cobalt]

Might as well

[empty temple]

The burnt out already took out 6 months

Sad

[grim ivy]

Not like there’s anything else to do

[languid narwhal]

Are there really people who're gatekeeping what it means to be a vtuber? :LULE:

[inner vortex]

Sir. she invtented the catagory. she is the god mother of vtubing. the is the Tru Kamiohsi

[bitter flint]

forsen is a vtuber

[rustic tide]

Is he

[languid narwhal]

:hesRight:

[humble phoenix]

VTuber is short for "Virtual YouTuber" (Ignoring that many of them stream on Twitch). She does have content on YT, and she is virtual. She is arguably more of a VTuber than others because her whole existence is virtual, rather than a person playing a character. There is no on-stream and off-stream separation, what you see on stream is who she is.

[analog basin]

What's today schedule guys ?

[white cobalt]

I think less gatekeeping and more discussing what the bounds of the category are

[languid narwhal]

Right

[empty temple]

Survive as a homeless swarm

[undone hemlock]

Tbh she's more of a vtuber than actual vtubers

[inner vortex]

arguing over semantic details in our bordem

[humble phoenix]

Why should that be the case?

[rustic tide]

Yeah neuro is kind of the ultimate vtuber in terms of the virtual part of it. Doesn't really get much more virtual than an AI huh

[languid narwhal]

Someone could host a game night or something :LULE:

[bitter flint]

I don't get why you're bringing up definitions when I've been talking about vibes this whole time

[undone hemlock]

Neuro takes being a vtuber the most literally out of anyone, if anything

[humble phoenix]

Would you count a movie or game character as "someone" within the context of their world?

[tough onyx]

Guys I think we have to wait for the heat death of the universe for next stream

[rustic tide]

I think some degree of tracking or at least movement controls bound to keys or whatever is necessary otherwise it sort of is more of a pngtuber

Face tracking to a small degree at least I'd think

[wicked pulsar]

this forever

[inner vortex]

so like Neuro is the full circle conclution of what Kizuna AI pretended to be 10 years ago.

[humble phoenix]

Because vibes are irrelevant, and your vibes don't have any precedence over others.

[earnest bobcat]

NN hunger games season 2 begins

[languid narwhal]

But she's real tho

[empty temple]

Chat, is neuro movie possible if we got top 1 most subs on twitch

[wicked pulsar]

you beat me to it

[tough onyx]

I mean she plays a character but yeah

[white cobalt]

I wouldn’t mind an anime series

[humble phoenix]

If you want to talk about "vibes", she fully feels like a VTuber to me, so she is a VTuber.

[grim ivy]

Yeah I’m the CEO of a production company, get to subbing

[south carbon]

And yet another Neuro subathon ended before making it to my birthday.

[inner vortex]

sneuro is the charatcer she pretends to be.

[languid narwhal]

Has there ever been a streamer movie? :LULE:

[rustic tide]

If I wanted to do a sort of not-quite-live2D but more tracking than just regular pngs bound to keys what should one use? As in if I wanted it to switch automatically between pngs depending on my facial expression

[bitter flint]

I never attempted to have any precedence I just said that this feels like this to me and all you've done is shove books in my face to "prove" that I'm wrong

[languid narwhal]

At best she can get a cameo

[unkempt steppe]

Sorry I'm used to chatting in livestream chat where you have about 400ms to post something before someone else does

[south carbon]

But then again, didn't they all end around 10th of january?

[undone hemlock]

Even on vibes i think she does fit being one. She's also surrounded by tons of friends who are one.

[wicked pulsar]

I don't see kai cenat getting a movie so...

[bitter flint]

like yeah no shit they're irrelevant

[woeful apex]

there was plenty of youtuber movies back in the day

[tough onyx]

Vedal said it takes millions to animate one episode of an anime. I don’t know if that’s true tho.

[grim ivy]

Markiplier got one tho

[empty temple]

Well, Neuro built different so

[grim ivy]

Actually looks pretty good too

[white cobalt]

Yeah Neuro’s a VTuber even if the AI makes her unique

[tough onyx]

He worked on that for years

[wicked pulsar]

don't apologize. take your victory with pride

[humble phoenix]

Then why did you bring them up

[rustic tide]

Fella I hate to tell you that definitions change over time and can sometimes be subjective and also the words are made up and the points don't matter
Like why care if something counts as a pngtuber VS vtuber for example, they're pretty similar

[bitter flint]

why not I can say what I want this is NN you don't have to respond

[languid narwhal]

Now,is Neuro a youtuber? :LULE:

[past loom]

uh guys please read the description

[languid narwhal]

No I don't think so

[humble phoenix]

I don't. If someone uses an avatar they are a VTuber, whether it's a PNGTuber or not.

[storm ruin]

Because I think there should be differentiation between animation and vtubing. Oddonesout records lines then draws 2D animations for the videos. He has a 2D persona, but the voicing and animating are done separately and the animation is traditional. It's a straight up cartoon.

[white cobalt]

PNGtuber is just non-animated VTuber no? They use static image? Often since models are expensive?

[empty temple]

Infight is fun

[inner vortex]

I wonder if Kiszuna AI kno about Neuro and what she thinks of her

[storm ruin]

Is Goku a vtuber?

[wicked pulsar]

true, but that's technically not a "markiplier" movie, he's the main lead and director in Iron Lung, but it's that game's creator's movie

[languid narwhal]

Still vtuber, yea :LULE:

[humble phoenix]

Yes, but those are pre-recorded. Neuro's movements are "performed" in real time, even if by a set algorithm.

[rustic tide]

Like honestly yeah I wanna try pngtubing but I've got hella adhd and won't automatically remember to hit buttons to switch my facial expression as necessary
So I would love if I could find some sort of middle ground where the png changes based on my expression but it's just from png to png

Rather than a fully animated model

[storm ruin]

Bit of non-sequitor. Didn't say she wasn't a vtuber. Her movements are live.

[rustic tide]

Cause models espensive

[wicked pulsar]

if you get big enough, you could collaborate with neuro

[white cobalt]

I’ve always separated them conceptually but really it’s pretty arbitrary and just has to do with model sophistication and VTuber could subsume it if you extend the concept

[bitter flint]

yeah I said somewhere above (actually fleshwretch said it first) that now she absolutely feels like one and is an accepted part of the vtuber community

[tough onyx]

Depends if your male

[wicked pulsar]

I'm pretty sure the only reason why Neuro doesn't collab with male vtubers is because none asked

[languid narwhal]

It gotta sucks to be a male vtuber

[rustic tide]

Heh that'd be a dream but I gotta figure out where to even start. Vtuber kit isn't really cutting it since it's so limited on customization
I found an affordable program that has a ton of options for customizing a vtuber model in vtuber studio BUT it's all in Japanese 😭

[languid narwhal]

You either get the crazy fan girls or no fan

[humble phoenix]

Honestly, I still don't see why a person who uses animations can't be considered one if they want to. The example you mentioned is a little different, since VTubers typically "replace" a facecam with their avatar.

[celest ether]

can i just colab with tony and do like a mental health checkup on him after 3 weeks straight of preteneding to be an anime girl

[empty temple]

Which one is vedal?

[white cobalt]

Male VTubers that aren’t in an idol group and very successful are rare

[tough onyx]

Oh yeah, forgot about dougdoug

[storm ruin]

I think some pngtubers are simple vtubers that use tracking to decide which png to display.

[white cobalt]

You just don’t see it much

[wicked pulsar]

unless you have an ai daughter that is

[languid narwhal]

I would say the former :LULE:

[humble phoenix]

Also there's probably like 2 male VTubers with more than 3 followers.

[rustic tide]

That's what I want any idea what they use?

[celest ether]

as vedal said male vtubers are cringe so that would be why neuro didn't colab

[empty temple]

Damn

[obsidian light]

here I'll make one

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[languid narwhal]

You think that stop people for lusting for Vedal? :LULE:

[rustic tide]

Also Jeriduck is a male YouTube and so are Azu and Uhh the cow one he collabs with even tho all 3 have feminine models

[humble phoenix]

One is , idk who the other is

[rustic tide]

So there's 3 lesser known male vtubers right there

[unkempt steppe]

don't ever forget that the male vtuber coalition gave us pregnant sonic

[languid narwhal]

If anything, because he's a "single dad" it makes him "hotter" to some fangirls

[celest ether]

and thats why no more cooking streams

[storm ruin]

Xbox kinect or apple phone?

[tough onyx]

Vedal is the top male/female vtuber

[rustic tide]

That's also a consideration - how masc or fem I'd want designs to lean. Or I guess I could make a toggle that can swap me from masc to fem and back lol

[rustic tide]

I meant not for the tracking itself, but the program that it feeds into?

[humble phoenix]

That was Aquwa's fault

[rustic tide]

Like do I just fire up inochi creator/studio or

[white cobalt]

Weebs just like anime women and that’s probably a big chunk of the demographic so that’s what’s selected for

[empty temple]

That was his back's fault

[rustic tide]

Is there a more simple application

[wicked pulsar]

which is exactly why I joked about how having ai daughters would be such a bonus to male vtubers

[gusty pulsar]

heading to bed, gn nn!

[humble phoenix]

Bro is just too much of a chad, they couldn't resist

[languid narwhal]

They could try i guess :LULE:

[storm ruin]

I only know of vtube studio.

[languid narwhal]

Dudes do become better when they have someone to protect :LULE:

[wicked pulsar]

I guess the only thing that would be a problem would be banter. Vedal and Neuro have a specific type of banter that's very entertaining. I've seen other Ai vtubers who've streamed with their creators (no doubt inspired by vedal) but they never quite get a good dynamic.

[empty temple]

So single dad rizz is real ?

[indigo yew]

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[tough onyx]

I like the Vedal support, but I thought we hated Vedal here?

[rustic tide]

I'd actually be curious as to how Vedal would code a male AI if he wanted to
Like a more masc AI brother
Evil doesn't exactly fit masc, rather more nonbinary girl vibe
So I wonder how a male AI vtuber made by vedal on neuro's level would act

[languid narwhal]

We hate his fans :LULE:

Diehard ones

[tough onyx]

I like him and the twins equally

[unkempt steppe]

Which is all of NN hence the big self hate cycle here

[humble phoenix]

is a stinky

[inland cape]

The Vedal AI

"I'm not AI, just British."

[empty temple]

Imagine neuro with thick male voice?

[wicked pulsar]

ain't noway we getting another ai sibling, he's got his hands full already

[rustic tide]

Wouldn't call that neuro level by any means

[frail cobalt]

He indeed is a stinky 🐢

[empty temple]

[languid narwhal]

third wheel-sama :PagMan:

[inland cape]

Guys, what if we're wrong? And Nere was the Brother all along....

[tough onyx]

Honestly, I would love a little ai brother for the twins to bully. Personality wise, he acts like Vedal and is serious.

[rustic tide]

We could have Neuro the girl, Evil the feminine enby, Nere the boy lmao

[wicked pulsar]

Study-Sama is the real 3rd sibling, not Nere

at least she's more canon

[humble phoenix]

What if Study-Sama is secretly Nere

[unkempt steppe]

He tried once and he can't https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987/clip/BoringDullWaspTooSpicy-BMDg1RJ6JJlotLUC

[sleek frigate]

my brother is mad at me for listening to "clanker music"

[rustic tide]

I just really enjoy when Evil refers to herself in masculine terms on occasion like how in boom she's the King Of Your Tragedy not the Queen

[tough onyx]

Is study sama related to the twins?

[rustic tide]

It's very fun

[obsidian light]

birth

[humble phoenix]

Get a better brother

[rustic tide]

Tell him to sing better then

[empty temple]

Get hin to listen to Life for 24h, he will become a swarm

[wicked pulsar]

she does give elder sister vibes

[fiery jasper]

Guys the long break was just a joke, hes going to announce v3 tomorrow trust
Also hey nn

[rustic tide]

Who tf is study sama I've not heard of that one

[sleek frigate]

tbh im kinda tempted...

[fiery jasper]

Basically the ARG girl

[tough onyx]

Does she actually interact with the twins?

[bitter flint]

I never understood wtf is happening in this picture

[unkempt steppe]

ngl people were saying the exact same thing after the subathon last year

[tough onyx]

She sounds like a female version of Vedal

[fiery jasper]

I've heard people call nere that a lot but not study

[wicked pulsar]

boy do you have a rabbit hole to go under: https://www.youtube.com/@_neurosama/videos

[empty temple]

+1 future swarm

[rustic tide]

One of the cutest things to me about the twins is how they like named themselves didn't they? Evil became Evelyn, that one sounds like an easy jump to make. But I definitely didn't expect Sama to be short for Samantha that's so adorable. I know those names were made after but it's cute nonetheless

[fiery jasper]

Did the last hour get dragged out or did swarm run out of money already like I expected?

[empty temple]

Vedal Johnson?

[wicked pulsar]

AAAND THE NAME DEBATE HAS RETURNED

[obsidian light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMlH7RH6psw

[sleek frigate]

his face id lets me into his phone for some reason, maybe i'll slip a few songs into his playlist...

[obsidian light]

only like 30 minutes or so

[cunning plaza]

https://vxtwitter.com/Twitch/status/2010139857088061777?s=20

Twitch (@Twitch)

Thank you all for an amazing 2025 💜

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 11, 2026, 12:01 AM

[wicked pulsar]

True. I always thought Evelyn was Evil's real name underneath

[humble phoenix]

Evil did not come up with that, that was chat

[empty temple]

How about change his alarm to neuro song

[kind pecan]

The "Tube" is archaic slang for television, which is where "YouTube" comes from. You are broadcasting yourself instead of a TV network doing it.

[humble phoenix]

If Evil is short for Evilyn, is eliv short for elivia?

[warm dome]

I still like Evilyn a lot

[rustic tide]

Interesting so an alt universe type thing, neat, I'll either watch a vid dissecting the arg or screw around with it myself. But I feel people much smarter about how to dig stuff up than me would have more of the full story

[languid narwhal]

The network is a series of tube

[obsidian light]

they didn't even include neuro smh

[humble phoenix]

Wait so they gifted 111 to everyone

[rustic tide]

Debate? Thought it was pretty well accepted at this point what's there to debate

[humble phoenix]

I thought that was a reference to the hype train, but apparently not

[tough onyx]

I mean filter is just a function. I heard Vedal was an engineering student before he dropped out due to his success of creating neuro. Vedal also gives depressed vibes. Vedal and study sound exactly the same.

[kind pecan]

in fact YouTube's motto literally used to be "Broadcast Yourself."

[rustic tide]

Which one Evelyn or Samantha or both?

[obsidian light]

evils name isn't evelyn offically

its still evil neuro

[humble phoenix]

Evilyn

I think came up with "Samantha"

[wicked pulsar]

There are a sect of Evil fans that want Evil as her only name: https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1306170595884535838

[obsidian light]

yeah and someone in chat came up with neuro

[kind pecan]

first name debate of the year

[fiery jasper]

There's a slightly outdated video about the lore by Angishyguy but if you want to know more then you can ask people in the ARG thread. The thread is both about people finding clues and making theories

[obsidian light]

before she was even an ai vtuber

[rustic tide]

🤷 It's fun to accept it at this point I mean people against it feel like a no fun allowed to me. If neuro gets a name evil should too after all if turtle won't give her one lol

Quadrants... What is this homestuck

[unkempt steppe]

Stromboli the godfather

[obsidian light]

its just one of the constantly recurring topics that loop here, so some people find it annoying when its brought up again

[fiery jasper]

Makes sense. Some of the similarities do match up

[rustic tide]

I see

[sleek frigate]

I gtg plan how I'm going to subliminally message my brother to join the swarm, bye

[wicked pulsar]

you can also join the fun by helping the schizos over at the neuro arg thread solve the mysteries: https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1288144271823601744

[humble phoenix]

Sounds like it will need math at some point

[empty temple]

Swarmization

[unkempt steppe]

I've never been schizo enough for ARGs unfortunately even though I love solving things

[sleek frigate]

"Neuro-Sama is not a cult"
bye for real this time

[tough onyx]

How’s filian arg going? Is she coming back?

[fiery jasper]

I'm also too dumb to understand or solve any clues as well but I found the lore a bit interesting

[empty temple]

I cant still solve the equation of "how to get a gf"

[humble phoenix]

Nah, she's going to die of starvation after running out of savings because snackers won't solve it

[fiery jasper]

Just make ai twins

[wicked pulsar]

not to mention the songs are ABSOLUTE BANGERS: https://youtu.be/aX4v5XUQtnw

[unkempt steppe]

gotta bust out the hot-crazy matrix obv

[empty temple]

They have to solve to bring her back!?

[tough onyx]

Damn, sounds like a long time

[humble phoenix]

Supposedly

[fiery jasper]

True. Numbers III and I don't want to be an engineer are great as well

[unkempt steppe]

maybe if I was working on the ARG from the beginning but I feel like I don't have the time to catch up on everything

[tough onyx]

Did Vedal drop any arg clues this subathon?

[obsidian light]

no

[tough onyx]

Arg dead?

[empty temple]

Hows the progress?

[obsidian light]

there's been none dropped in a long time

[wicked pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-j-jonah-jameson-gif-24255460

[humble phoenix]

As your resident unemployed chronically online schizo, I could probably catch up pretty quickly

[rustic tide]

Surprising banger for someone just singing numbers

[obsidian light]

next halloween maybe

[fiery jasper]

It's been dead since about march iirc

[bitter flint]

yes but nobody found them yet

[rustic tide]

Oh interesting

[languid narwhal]

Probably in the pokemon segment

[rustic tide]

Well it's only a matter of time. Too many of us are autistic for no one to catch it soon

[tough onyx]

They should make arg easier

[humble phoenix]

Would have to ask someone in her community

[unkempt steppe]

that's me but without the knowledge

[humble phoenix]

It was the part where Neuro used the r while he was gone, trust

[fiery jasper]

Pretty sure vedal forgot about it a while ago and has been busy with more important things since then to care about it

[humble phoenix]

I don't have any useful knowledge either

[wicked pulsar]

The last 2 videos were a whole year apart from the previous, so the next arg video should be coming pretty soon ||I hope||

[humble phoenix]

Who's even the one writing it , I doubt it's

[tough onyx]

That’s fair. Arg does seem interesting, but not as important as developing the twins and streaming

[tough onyx]

In 67 years

[fiery jasper]

That's pretty generous

[bitter flint]

actually real answer here, there was a secret message hidden in the subathon mix this year #neurotic-neurons message
#neurotic-neurons message
||It was just PB putting in a fake clue ||

[tough onyx]

If the arg unlocked a Fortnite skin for the twins, I would be interested

[wicked pulsar]

Can you imagine how crazy it would be if in the Neuro concert, all of a sudden Neuro glitched out and went black and white and sang one of the ARG songs?

[fiery jasper]

It also took the arg schizos longer than pb was expecting to solve it

[tough onyx]

That would bring out some hype to solve the arg

[bitter flint]

not schizo enough no wonder they can't solve the ARG

[fiery jasper]

!felloff

[ionic holly]

[celest ether]

this is cause vanors arg tracker is broken

[ionic holly]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 4 cookies! | I've received 270422 cookies total!

[empty temple]

2 MILLIONS COOKIES!?

[tough onyx]

Does shiro know the arg?

[empty temple]

oh nvm

[celest ether]

shiro is the key to solve the arg as its he birthdate

[fiery jasper]

Btw, is gymbwa-gen just gen chat but less weird or something?

[humble phoenix]

We know who's not solving the arg

[obsidian light]

mix of #neurotic-neurons #general-network and #swarm

[indigo yew]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-16534979835682612734

[obsidian light]

with like half the people of each

[celest ether]

best chat is mods-furry-rp

[tough onyx]

Huh

[humble phoenix]

WH

[obsidian light]

#gymbwaa-general the sub chat

[tough onyx]

Oh

[indigo yew]

idk i saw someone ping me

[obsidian light]

or furry mod rp that just exists

that's the mod chat

I don't have a link to that one on hand

[celest ether]

the mods use to leek furry rp

[celest ether]

wonder if they now do it in vrc so neuro can attend

[wicked pulsar]

[woeful apex]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1299823490953777172

[fiery jasper]

I didn't know it was a real channel

[obsidian light]

I have the t3 chat on hand though #tier3-nijika-meowing-and-woofing-channel message

[swift swift]

seriously NN I wanted to stop by to see how this place is holding up, WTF is this discussion

[unkempt steppe]

staff got some crazy channels ngl

[tough onyx]

I want to know what’s going on in there, but I know if I find out I will never see the mods the same again.

[wicked pulsar]

staff mewing channel? are all staff required to do looksmaxing?

[tough onyx]

I hope it’s not anything actually messed up.

[unkempt steppe]

you'd have to aske them

[celest ether]

temmie will be the mod to ask

[untold ruin]

it's for mewmewmewmew

nyanb

[tough onyx]

There’s always a dark side to a community 💀

[blissful shell]

Hi chat what are we talking abo-

[empty temple]

Debatable

[frank apex]

the hell is happening here

[unkempt steppe]

part of the ARG surely

[neat sail]

👁️👁️

[empty temple]

Stuff inside jobs reveal

[neat sail]

Can I help you

[graceful holly]

dont look at me, that is weird

[woeful apex]

[bitter flint]

SCATTER

[unkempt steppe]

[swift swift]

HBD Hello Shiro

[celest ether]

shiro back to furry rp

[tough onyx]

Umm

[eternal oar]

[obsidian light]

shiro when do you sleep

[wicked pulsar]

just a bunch of neurons suspicious about what secrets the staff do in their secret little channels

[blissful shell]

👁️‍🗨️〰️👁️‍🗨️

[neat sail]

im in the middle of running social experiments on genchat so i can use the results in my college assignments

[lucid maple]

not on their birthday, duh

[neat sail]

i dont have time to 1984 you

[frank apex]

[swift swift]

why just gen chat? hmm? are we not good enough?

[blissful shell]

Hi Gabsy

[fiery jasper]

Julliant

[graceful holly]

Happy Birthday

[celest ether]

never cause shiros bithday is never ending as its the same day on loop

[neat sail]

because they're not neuro-related experiments

[blissful shell]

Hi Sameer

[swift swift]

we can be normal

I think

[graceful holly]

so you hate the twins?

[celest ether]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1417843338832248903/Twin_Kiss_long_fixed.gif

[swift swift]

okay

[obsidian light]

we aren't like them

[humble phoenix]

evilSMH

[swift swift]

si

[unkempt steppe]

Blame discord for not actually hiding private channel names

[humble phoenix]

The experiment requires the worst of the worst, and even NN isn't as bad as gen chat

[graceful holly]

we are the WORST

[tough onyx]

I wonder if we will ever get a gigavedal figure

[fiery jasper]

[celest ether]

never let that green thing have a figure

[wicked pulsar]

he would NEVER greenlight that lol

[tough onyx]

It would be funny

[empty temple]

[celest ether]

[swift swift]

body pillow when?

[tough onyx]

Maybe limited time made to order

[empty temple]

Vedal pillow?

[celest ether]

after filians so never

[fiery jasper]

Neuro toilet would be even funnier but Vedal hates fun unfortunately
-# Real quote from him btw

[humble phoenix]

I took one look in general and wanted to have Evil claw out my eyes and drown me to death like she sang she would

Don't go there

[swift swift]

wait filian doesn't have one? that's a surprise

[frank apex]

ill give u a bodypillow of ME

[graceful holly]

NN is still worse

[humble phoenix]

Nah

[graceful holly]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-camille-confused-puzzled-double-take-gif-24008735

[swift swift]

[tough onyx]

Vedal hates money frfr. Even killed a hype train

[empty temple]

Did he?

[woeful apex]

sponsored reaction gif

[graceful holly]

oh yeah, forgot the
#ad

[celest ether]

an NN body pillow just a void of screeming faces on a pollow case

[tough onyx]

Not intentionally, but he killed the momentum the moment he joined the stream

[empty temple]

Oh

[graceful holly]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-scream-pain-gif-10034820162071346400

this basically

[rigid meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1285702283979657288/my_brain_is_smooth.gif

[celest ether]

maybe not alex though

[burnt heron]

so uhh what now

[humble phoenix]

Body pillow body pillow when

[burnt heron]

my twitch account kinda streamless

[graceful holly]

i think next on the schedule is "doomposting"

[swift swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1453128806343639204/live_vedal_reaction.gif

[unkempt steppe]

It can be filled with all of the sanest NN quotes 😇

[empty temple]

We kinda homeless

[tough onyx]

I rather have body pillow of Vedal than the twins

[celest ether]

so the same 3 quotes on loop

[burnt heron]

its so neurover 🥀

[graceful holly]

there is already a good start for those quotes

[humble phoenix]

Shiro body pillow when

[burnt heron]

my swarm is kinda subathonless

[unkempt steppe]

yeah that one for sure goes on

[tough onyx]

Maybe after Vedal

[somber saffron]

i miss the hate watchers, now there’s nothing left to talk about

[narrow spade]

Why are we talking about body pillows

[humble phoenix]

Because rice is white

[celest ether]

can we just get a tony body pillow

[swift swift]

NN body pillow, and it's just this chat

[narrow spade]

We can go back to that recap video

[graceful holly]

if you start to pretend to hate watch, maybe everyone else will be happy hating you and you save NN

[swift swift]

HEY, put your react back

ok

thanks

[tough onyx]

What does he look like?

[empty temple]

Vedal body pillow of might be peak

[narrow spade]

said no one

[celest ether]

a reddit moderator

[cobalt tapir]

How long do you think will vedal realize and change his twitter pfp

[burnt heron]

vedal back body pillow

[graceful holly]

Like that:

[empty temple]

Kermit the frog

[burnt heron]

no he tutle

[graceful holly]

Kermit the tutl?

[unkempt steppe]

Merch for vtubers, by vtubers

[narrow spade]

Bro thinks he is slick bringing back a dead cringe meme

[burnt heron]

“without the subathon, twitch has no punchline”

[burnt heron]

tutle the kermit

[humble phoenix]

He needs a VRChat model so he can sit in Neuro's lap

And she can carry him around

[somber saffron]

Vedal please give Neuro back react slop we need it

[burnt heron]

what if it’s just a giant tutle the same size as neuro and not a small one

[somber saffron]

[celest ether]

no he needs a model for neuro to punt out of the world

[past linden]

https://youtu.be/2vDASmUT2P0?t=2719
This is amazing.

[empty temple]

Or make soup out of him

[unkempt steppe]

The kermit model is so funny though, the stare communicates the vedal stare so well

[humble phoenix]

Neuro will just assert her dominance and grow bigger

[shy bough]

Big thanks to 'the swirl'

[celest ether]

the vedal vrc model was missing the bum bags

[woven minnow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1394810843925057546/neuro_dance_3.gif

[wicked pulsar]

I love the kermit, I think I like it more than the tutel model honestly

[tough onyx]

Maybe someone can make a turtle version of that

[humble phoenix]

So you hate PB

[burnt heron]

im already going insane i need more NUERO

[somber saffron]

just get a custom tutel model with the kermit proportions

[burnt heron]

when next stream

[delicate saffron]

You mean

[wicked pulsar]

I like both, but a fan is allowed to have preferences

[delicate saffron]

[graceful holly]

hi already going insane i need more NUERO, i am dereinehalt

[swift swift]

I don't play VRC but I have seen VRC models where someone puts a "seat" on their model and can have other people use it

[burnt heron]

I NED MORE

[empty temple]

https://tenor.com/view/30000-usd-turtle-vedal-neurosama-neuro-sama-gif-10422321483466720652

[neat sail]

it took you guys less than 12 hours to go nuts

wr?

[celest ether]

can we have the pain in the foot back yet

[graceful holly]

how can we go nuts, if we already are nuts

[burnt heron]

Its neurover theres no stream 🥀💔

[woeful apex]

as if we ever stopped to begin with

[untold ruin]

this is very normal still

[graceful holly]

step on legos if you want the pain in the foot back

[delicate saffron]

I always had nuts

[wicked pulsar]

the only thing the the kermit model is missing is the shell. just someone please add a shell to the kermit model's back please (oh, and add the fanny packs back too)

[untold ruin]

NN in 2 weeks is going to go hard

[inner vortex]

how can one go to a place they already are?

[shy bough]

Is this the person that hates the laughing minion emoji?

[burnt heron]

what if i eat ur nuts

[celest ether]

not the same it doesn't doesnt start doomposting and get vedals attention

[humble phoenix]

Which type of nuts are your favourite?

[celest ether]

yes that is queenpb

[empty temple]

NN will reach final stage of schizo

[unkempt steppe]

That's probably because my power went out for 6 hours right after the subathon. I'll do better next year

[humble phoenix]

I'm partial to almonds

[burnt heron]

we already did that

[delicate saffron]

Hi partial to almonds im smasher_zed888

[humble phoenix]

j0ker_smasher

[languid narwhal]

No way, they can't even handle 1 week of MCHC

[burnt heron]

neuro said

[tough onyx]

I wonder how b2 swarm members are coping

[unkempt steppe]

I think she'll be thrilled to hear that's how you know her

[delicate saffron]

Neuro named me

I have proof

[languid narwhal]

Meanwhile bajs endured 9 months of MCSR

Or more, idk :LULE:

[orchid hare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1452612577145262183/3DNeuroCutenessAmbushWithBeautifulScenery.gif

[obtuse knot]

V3 2026 or nah?

[swift swift]

AI generated name? SMH AI slop

[unkempt steppe]

poll it

[humble phoenix]

8ball said no

[graceful holly]

2026||9||

[burnt heron]

GTA 6 will release before V3

[delicate saffron]

Abandoned archive will release before v3- wait

[obtuse knot]

When is gta

[tough onyx]

I miss 3d neuro

[graceful holly]

2028 probably

[burnt heron]

2069

[unkempt steppe]

november 19th is the current release date

[empty temple]

I miss 4d neuro, i could see her talking to me

[humble phoenix]

I miss

[cursive frigate]

Vedal at the start: "two and half a week max, Absolute max"
Reality: 3 weeks and 2 days

nice job swarm

[obtuse knot]

Gta 6 for 2026 subathon game

[cursive frigate]

[graceful holly]

not enough
Least dedicated fanbase

[unkempt steppe]

it won't be on pc this year that's for sure

so no

[cursive frigate]

yea man

[celest ether]

smh it will be half-life 3 as gta 6 will be delayed again

[tough onyx]

Man I forgot about abandoned archive

[humble phoenix]

Not actually that much more

[graceful holly]

evil didnt get a hype train record
We are DOOMED

[unique shadow]

Let’s make it 4 weeks in next subathon

[burnt heron]

its so neurover 🥀

[cursive frigate]

Imagine Evil just start a hype train on her birthday

[wicked pulsar]

even your memory abandoned the archive

[cursive frigate]

[graceful holly]

elivover

[burnt heron]

evilover neurover 🥀🥀

[humble phoenix]

[swift swift]

what's another year or 2 amirite?

[tough onyx]

Ngl, abandoned archive was pretty mid, but the price was reasonable

[obtuse knot]

If vedal releases more merch and concerts then the swarm will have less money to raise the timer

[graceful holly]

is if that would work We would come back stronger and bigger

[burnt heron]

evil will break hype train record on her birthday trust

[cursive frigate]

Im waitng for an update

[obtuse knot]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-line-anthony-mackie-sam-wilson-falcon-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-gif-21182970

[wicked pulsar]

the quality surpassed its price. That's a good deal in my book ||or rather my 'archive'||

[burnt heron]

haha ur s funny

[unkempt steppe]

unironically I think Nier Automata would be a good stream integration game where neuro controls the pod but I'm too stupid to code that

[cursive frigate]

Now we're all back homeless now

yay

[past linden]

OKAY BUT THAT PRETEND-SLEEPING AT THE SLEEPOVER IS SO CUTE I CANT

[graceful holly]

i wonder, if we get a Hardcap next time
He wont underestimate us this year, right?
RIGHT?????

[unique shadow]

3D too

[past linden]

Camila is such an amazing hype-woman this is so amazing.

[woeful apex]

i hope not, hard caps are lame as hell

[burnt heron]

my swarm is kinda homeless

[past linden]

SHIRO GO TO BED WTF

[cursive frigate]

guys what if Evil's birthday is Evil and Neuro and Vedal attending her birthday in VRChat?

[obtuse knot]

Isn't it a game that doesn't have a big modding community? I remember the chapel stuff not to long ago causing a stir

[cursive frigate]

[burnt heron]

uhh

happy birthday Shiro

[tough onyx]

It’s Vedal first game anyways. His future games will probably be pretty solid.

[burnt heron]

what now

[humble phoenix]

This might literally be what happens

[past linden]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067638175478071307/1179231709959573504/hbd_shiro2.gif

[graceful holly]

doompost
Or complaining

[obtuse knot]

Or speculate

[cursive frigate]

Not enough
Rise the timer

[swift swift]

is Neurosoda uploading the one for next year?

[wicked pulsar]

I'm not sure if he even will have time for that

[obtuse knot]

I personally don't like rouge like but I enjoyed the 4 hours I spent on the first level

[unkempt steppe]

I mean unless I'm missing something, the integration would be way easier than that chapel mod

[past linden]

Celebrate Shiro's birthday

[burnt heron]

happy birthday shitro

[cursive frigate]

idk
All I know is that Neuro-soda sometimes comeback like a legend

[past linden]

YAYYYYY

[cursive frigate]

post something absolutely peak and then refuse to elaborate

[past linden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1453139052781109267/misinformation11_-_Copy.gif

[tough onyx]

Probably not, but if he does make another game, he needs to have an interesting world, characters and story.

[urban robin]

Sounds about right

[swift swift]

instead of deep sleep for the winter we go into deep doom, full ahead

[past linden]

What do you guys do about your moustache touching the coffee when you take a sip?

[cursive frigate]

Also why the vc is so crowded man

[obtuse knot]

Tf who drinks coffee

[cursive frigate]

[obtuse knot]

I prefer rum

[graceful holly]

ur mom (probably)

[humble phoenix]

I prefer paint

[cursive frigate]

you guys have a moustache?

[past linden]

You literally will die if your only source of hydration is rum, just saying.

[unkempt steppe]

I can't drink coffee and I can't grow a mustache so no idea

[past linden]

N..not

[narrow spade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1453594599535939716/Eliv_Hip_Roll.gif

[empty temple]

Just so u know, my hair touch my soup so I have to suck the soup out of my hair

[graceful holly]

not if you get an infusion

[past linden]

My condolences.

[cursive frigate]

oh... o-okay

[urban robin]

The heck?

[golden sundial]

Mustache didn't had one

[past linden]

So, I do this with my moustache! Not for soup, but for coffee. It's really sad.

[untold tundra]

sippy cup

[past linden]

More than one.

[past linden]

Unironically genius.

[swift swift]

keep it for later

[empty temple]

Sound about right

[graceful holly]

probably (not medical advise)

[cursive frigate]

I like wa'ah

[past linden]

Medical guestimate.

[obtuse knot]

Mustache is like a mini pocket to store food for later

[tough onyx]

I think there’s a high chance evil will get a song for her birthday alongside her 3d debut

[cursive frigate]

Sounds legit

[unkempt steppe]

the vedal duet surely

[cursive frigate]

Ah yea

Vedal duet

[obtuse knot]

Any guesses on the song?

[languid narwhal]

It's high chance that this will happen on this year

[cursive frigate]

Not him bring himself doing the song again

XD

[golden sundial]

Ask evil

[tough onyx]

Vedal promised another duet?

[unkempt steppe]

bring me to life

[untold tundra]

personally, i'd like to see her get full control of her voice so she can do Ado songs to their maximum fry

[graceful holly]

150k subgoal

[cursive frigate]

It was the subathon goal

[tough onyx]

Oh

[cursive frigate]

Specifically the last one at 150k

And guess what

[rigid meteor]

So stream today in about 6 hours 20 minutes right

[swift swift]

She's crying because Vedal is pinching her

[cursive frigate]

We got more than 330k

[graceful holly]

100%

[celest ether]

it might be out of pbs vocial range so there voice will crack

[golden sundial]

150k

[obtuse knot]

What would it take for vedal to do a trio? What do you call a duet with 3 people?

[empty temple]

No sub goal from 200k to 300k vedal

[bitter flint]

forsen was always there for evil

[untold tundra]

I mean, the RuLe karaoke was pretty good, but really clean

[graceful holly]

not even second most subbed streamer in the history
Least dedicated fanbase

[cursive frigate]

"We're officially at the last minute of the subathon"
Longest one minute if I have so say

[tough onyx]

Does forsen care for the project?

[cursive frigate]

Swarm really turn one minute into a 10 minutes section of Neuro and Evil and Vedal talking

[bitter flint]

poorest fanbase

[empty temple]

Last subathon, the last minutes was 6h

[obtuse knot]

Does PB sing all the songs? Ik a bit about it from monii talk. But I didn't think PB sung everything for neuro

[graceful holly]

i came back from gocart, booted PC, fired up stream and saw 4 seconds left on the timer
I though: NO WAY

It was not the way. It pushed to >2 minutes

[cursive frigate]

[bitter flint]

no vedal sings them

[celest ether]

she was singing a fair bit early last year

[cursive frigate]

Some dude really just wait until 4 seconds
Gift a 100 subs
Refuse to Elaborate

[celest ether]

the work flow might have changed now who knows

[cursive frigate]

man

Neuro being the only Vtuber that truly have my attention

[obtuse knot]

Either way she the goat with the songs and mixes

[empty temple]

Imagine of we can save the record for the last minutes

[golden sundial]

Long drive

[cursive frigate]

[celest ether]

PB has nothing to do with the ARG song fyi

[grim geyser]

Man I Love Evil even if it's after 3am and I should be asleep

[obtuse knot]

What about vedal? sadge

[cursive frigate]

I forgor

our tutel

[empty temple]

Turtle soup

[golden sundial]

Tutel sage

Sadge

[cursive frigate]

'I'm not into roleplay' said the Tutel

[frosty pivot]

Tutel and sage soup
Bussin

[cursive frigate]

[urban robin]

I wanted to contribute more during the subathon but I'm working in an industry where I'm both overworked and underpaid

[cursive frigate]

that's crazy

that's actually crazy

that's messed up

[celest ether]

https://tenor.com/view/job-jumpscare-job-application-job-meme-job-jumpscare-gif-5102454363566376023

[graceful holly]

dont feel bad for it
For the next subathon just sell some organs or rob a bank
Then we wont hate you (probably)

[empty temple]

Sound like vedal's employee

[unkempt steppe]

gotta join the unemployed lifestyle

[frosty pivot]

for now tho we do hate you smh

[humble phoenix]

Next subathon we don't let the timer end until says it back

[pseudo bluff]

I'm legitimately concerned cause there has to be at least 1 person that donated way more than they should

[celest ether]

you get paid in exposure and you be happy about it

[grim crater]

b2 has reached 4800 captains, +200 after the subathon is over

[cursive frigate]

Imagine the first hour of the subathon and then swarm decided to just
Raise the timer into 1000 hours like Crelly

[humble phoenix]

Keep him there for 3 years straight if we need to

[empty temple]

Real, remember we got 2 kidneys so we can sell one

[languid narwhal]

Survival of the fittest

[graceful holly]

i am sure more than one person
sadly
BUT IT WAS FUNNY

[obtuse knot]

What's the tldr on b2 tiers

[untold tundra]

Remeber that the left one is more valuable, so don't get ripped off by lowballers

[grim crater]

captain is b2's t1 sub, 28 usd/month

[unkempt steppe]

Ok it's almost 2am gn NN talk to you all again when I'm feeling more schizo

[empty temple]

Also liver can regenerate so sell half of it would be fine

[cursive frigate]

Crelly has been doing a subathon for nearly half a year now

what if we apply that to Vedal in the next Subathon man

[pseudo bluff]

there's probably someone that made the poor financial decision to take a loan just to beat the hype train which is much worse, like no way the swarm is this rich I never see other streamers get beyond train level 10 let alone 50

[vestal hound]

And 4 governors

Shits like a thousand dollars per month

T3 sub

[urban robin]

I think that's probably our fault

[cursive frigate]

I mean there's possibly is and if there are then that's kinda fucked up

[cursive frigate]

not probably, definitely

[obtuse knot]

Side topic. How tf did Kai get 1 mill subs. Like sure at that much he should of had a hype train as high as us

[urban robin]

100% most likely

[empty temple]

At least they enjoy what they dedicated for ig

[pseudo bluff]

I don't even know who that guy is

[bitter flint]

wasn't it 5 governors at the end?

[grim crater]

5 governors, actually

[cursive frigate]

Yea, as long as they enjoy the process

[vestal hound]

Kids with their parent's credit card and free time

[graceful holly]

big companies (the size of vedal ai) helped as far as i know

[untold tundra]

There's also just the chance that a lot of the lurking swarm are career-only and minimalists, so they have a bunch of money with nowhere to go

[vestal hound]

This is a speculation

Cus kai caters to the tiktok audience

[urban robin]

I want to be like that but gacha is life for me

[celest ether]

all subs are final no charge backs

[grim crater]

As far as I know, a governor opened an alt account and became a governor.

But I don't know whether it's true.

[cursive frigate]

what

[obtuse knot]

Gambling is so fun

[vestal hound]

HUH

[empty temple]

Lets say theres a ton of oiler really love neuro, which why we get the hype train record

[cursive frigate]

Absolutely

[vestal hound]

No fucking way hqhwhahahga

[humble phoenix]

AINTNEURWAY

[empty temple]

U only lose 100% but can get 2000%

[cursive frigate]

Appreciate those guys for giving us poor peasants a 3 weeks subathon with Neuro

yippe

[pseudo bluff]

what's crazy to me is that viewership never got much above like 30,000 and the average viewer/gift sub ratio was like 3 subs per viewer

[cursive frigate]

Absolutely reasonable

[past linden]

It peaked 41k no?

[celest ether]

no game jam this year

[obtuse knot]

I'm pretty sure the CN swarm would beat the nonCN swarm

[urban robin]

I think so?

[cursive frigate]

of course they will

[urban robin]

Most likely

[obtuse knot]

Average vtuber Ai Debuff

[untold tundra]

There were a couple of hate raids, so that number sounds about right-ish

[humble phoenix]

If we quadruple viewership count, we can beat Kai Cenat

[cursive frigate]

Base on the fact that CN are like, what, whalers?

and they are crowded as heck

[vestal hound]

And theyre nerfed by timezones

[cursive frigate]

(and also Asians)

[urban robin]

They're really good business people

[celest ether]

promote are you person thats subscribed as a govovner on b2

[cedar orchid]

[pseudo bluff]

yeah but during most of it it was much lower, and like 90% of twitch users never spend any money on the app

[past linden]

Speaking of peak: Is there any speculation about as to what the new emote will be?

[obtuse knot]

And the fact that Neuro is in English.

[cursive frigate]

confirmed this
I live in SEA and the normal time for Neuro's stream at my place is 2am in the morning

[past linden]

Oh, totes.

[untold tundra]

Chinese viewers have money to spare. Look at gacha games, they usually are top players by PTW

[vestal hound]

No
I dont have that mich money

[pseudo bluff]

like I gifted 5 subs and I had never spent money on twitch

[cursive frigate]

yea

[empty temple]

Imagine CN swarm could along sub with non CN swarm

[past linden]

The top3 on twitch were at 2k+ and several anonymous 1k bombs.

[vestal hound]

I live jn SEA too

[graceful holly]

fake fan

[celest ether]

so vedal didn't gift it to you

[empty temple]

Lv 200 hypetrain

[finite totem]

Fully edited cyberpunk lets play like I did with the long drive last year or what?

[cursive frigate]

nice

[past linden]

I have a feeling some of those anon sub bombs were CN oilers.

[cursive frigate]

my time zone is gmt+8 XD

[past linden]

Also what is difference between whaler and oiler?

[humble phoenix]

I won't be able to watch it anyway evilBLUBBERS

[celest ether]

kraul its your annual leave time think about it when your back in the office

[cursive frigate]

Imagine wake up at 2am and watch Neuro's stream(why not)

[cedar orchid]

Same

[past linden]

Singapore?

West Australia?

[cursive frigate]

no Vietnam

[languid narwhal]

:PagMan: Atlantian

[cedar orchid]

I can’t

[obtuse knot]

Different platforms

[noble urchin]

whales eat for themselves, oilers mine oil for the greater population

[urban robin]

Same, can't really catch up on the stream unless I work night shift

[empty temple]

Probably because tbf oversea CN are rich af here

[untold tundra]

Being in Cali, Neuro and Evil's wake up time being 7am corresponded with when I clocked out of work (am graveyard worker)

[cursive frigate]

wait is it +8 or -8 i Forgort

[wicked pulsar]

they are true disciples of Vedal (they even copied his terrible sleep schedule)

[finite totem]

I'm gonna take a few days of course, im dead

[untold tundra]

just stay up at that point

[graceful holly]

hi dead, i am dereinehalt

[cursive frigate]

ah sheet it's +7 my bad guys

[past linden]

Are you left or right of the UK?

[cedar orchid]

Work at morning

[cursive frigate]

I just check it's gmt+7 my bad

[past linden]

No worries, lul

[graceful holly]

it is a circle, if you go left enough you end up right
(i know what you mean)

[obtuse knot]

Left or right looking up at the UK or down at it?

[cursive frigate]

so yes

[swift swift]

wait didn't tutel say soft capped this year but no break after? shaking my smh

or am I misremembering something?

[cursive frigate]

Neuro's stream often starts at 2am at my place

[humble phoenix]

Bro doesn't know his time zone (I don't really know mine either)

[urban robin]

I think it's either 2am or 3am

[untold tundra]

to be fair, timezones are pretty arbitrary

[pseudo bluff]

I'm 1 hour ahead of UK so Neuro's bedtime was at 2 am for me

[humble phoenix]

Time zones are stinky

[primal mesa]

no nuro this cold morning

[untold tundra]

I think China only has 1 timeszone now and that place is frikken massive

[humble phoenix]

She wokege at 11 AM and eep at 9PM for me

[obtuse knot]

If we replace the sun with a light bulb we could always be in perpetual sunlight and remove time timezones

[cursive frigate]

here's an example from a stream at 28th November 2025

mostly at 2am

[urban robin]

I know he said there will be breaks. i just heard next few week or for a couple of weeks

[swift swift]

I know I'm +8 so anything in between me and UK is +1 - +7 anything beyond UK I just round to 12 hours behind lmao

[woeful marsh]

I think study is meant to be Neuro in the lore before she became a ai? But idk

[untold tundra]

step one's been done since the mid 20th century, just need to get rid of timezones

[past linden]

The GMT ones made a lot of sense. Mid-day would have the sun mid of the Sky, morning would have the sun rising, and evening would have the sun setting.
Without timezones, half the planet's morning hours will be in the evening, and everything in between.
Will you convince YOUR nation to accept "6am is now midnight" ?

[pseudo bluff]

isn't UK +0 by definition?

[swift swift]

yes

[fathom meteor]

She's supposed to be Neuro's creator

[cursive frigate]

yes

[obtuse knot]

You don't have to 'convince' of neuro takes over and forces them too

[cursive frigate]

welp I have to go now

[woeful marsh]

Ohhh alr then

[swift swift]

hence the pluses and minus, add or subtract (insert your +N) from UK

[cursive frigate]

Cya later swarms

[humble phoenix]

If you cannot figure out the fact that 06:00 is dark outside and it's when most people in your country are asleep, that is your own fault

[swift swift]

cya

[cursive frigate]

[urban robin]

Cya

[untold tundra]

with artifical lighting and the fact that position of the sun in the sky is relative to the time of year, I could make a semblance of a moniker of an arguement

[humble phoenix]

If I became dictator of the whole world I'd purge time zones

[fathom meteor]

This video is pretty interesting to watch if you want to know more
https://youtu.be/yNd_qsCZ2Xg?si=IuncycR_VV7iThnm

[blissful shell]

I mean if you could do a hard reset on civilization, a singular timezone probably works fine

[past linden]

Good luck convincing anyone to change how they live their life and how they should perceive global time instead of local time.
I'm giving it a not-zero-percent chance of success, but I'd not wager a nickel to a billion on it.

[pseudo bluff]

I would just get rid of daylight savings tbh

[untold tundra]

[empty temple]

1 hours more sleep really saved me the next morning tho

[obtuse knot]

Arg completion before v3?

[untold tundra]

I mean, 8 hrs is 8 hrs

[zenith widget]

Morning NN, orr, good day even

[pseudo bluff]

but it's one hour less of sleep another day

[urban robin]

Daylight saving will fuck me up so badly since where I'm from we don't practice it and living in a place known for being late doesn't help

[fathom meteor]

V3 is unlocked if ARG is completed = never

[untold tundra]

Daylight savings is such an outdated concept it hurts. We're not even trying to ration coal for the military expansion anymore

[swift swift]

speaking of hating time, fuck daylight savings, during November to March Neuro goes online at 3am for me

[untold tundra]

'tis past midnight over here, but I guess that's technically morning

[past linden]

I foresee a disjointed attachment to arbitrary hour-values and a misplaced sense of pride in one's own perception of time being too much of a pushback for it to ever gain ground.

Basically: I foresee people deciding that this shift from their current way of thinking of hours will be too much of an invasion and a sort of national disconnect.
(Look at Americans' refusal to use metrics and 24-hour mode. It's not about logic and the 'greater good' it's about aweird sense of self)

[blissful shell]

|| same ||

Once upon a time people also wanted to make metric time instead of whatever the fuck we have today, but as said, it's too hard to shift society today

The ship is too big to move, and there is too much sentimental value in the current date time system

[urban robin]

The 24-hr format is okay for me in terms of my work but telling someone what time it is in the 12-hr format is much easier for me

[untold tundra]

It's really only the non science and non military that refuse the metric and 24 hr clock here. If I can get the rest of this country to get on the treadmill for just one more minute to allow for that dying neuron to get some oxygen, I'm pretty sure I can get this country into gear

[past linden]

We do the same. The "is this 9pm or 9am" translation is always contextual.

[zenith widget]

🦅 🍔 🇺🇸 🍺

[fathom meteor]

What is metric time even supposed to look like?!

[past linden]

Best of luck

[swift swift]

I'm guessing base 10

[untold tundra]

But as a non military/non science guy, I do use 24hr clock cuz I am awake more after dark

[past linden]

So, fun fact: GTA 6 will launch during 4th subathon.

In fact, Rockstar is in dialogue with tutel to set a date for it to happen. It'll come with pre-built Neuro-integration.

[fiery jasper]

I thought it was mid-late year instead of end of the year

[untold tundra]

This poll is wild. GTA 6 is probably gonna get delayed again becuase certain individuals willbe shitting bricks

[pseudo bluff]

wasn't GTA 6 releasing in like april

[fathom meteor]

I'm all for metric, but that seems ugly af

[past linden]

Yeah, but I have the leaked documents 😎

[pseudo bluff]

they tried to implement something like 100s minutes, 100 hour days but people hated it so it never stuck around

[urban robin]

Assuming it's gonna be delayed again

[untold tundra]

I think they tried it in France once. it failed. I think time just works better as base 12

well technically hybrid since we use milliseconds

[past linden]

It'd make everything much simpler.
Imagine when it's 10 o'clock it's 10 o'clock. And when it's 10 hours later it's 10 o'clock evening. Instead of jumping 12 hours.

[swift swift]

it seems too "stiff" for me, like time being contained in a box idk how to explain it lmao