neurotic-neurons

[obsidian light]

People donate subs to increase the duration of the stream
Some streamers do it differently, but here all time since the start of the stream will count down the timer. Its currently unkown how much subs increase the timer, but usually higher tier subs give more, and you will see a lot of people donating at the start. Last year we broke the hype train record, basically the highest amount of money donated in a limited time
Its estimated to be basically a continuous stream for about a month, and this year vedal has content planned for it, while previous years were more spontaneous

Personally, I highly recommend being there for the start of the stream, even when its just the starting soon screen vedal its been a banger every year so far

[stuck reef]

it's me. i am that.

[humble grail]

Which is funny imo but that's subjective I guess

[tranquil jungle]

Wait true

[stuck reef]

closest thing i have

[tranquil jungle]

Sora face reveal

[hasty juniper]

Thank you so much! I will look foward to it, thank you for taking your time for this :0

[tranquil jungle]

[cobalt laurel]

Man I can't wait for this year's banger mashup during the subathon countdown

[hasty juniper]

VEDAWL

[opal flower]

Think the minecraft hardcore stream but more in depth and more days, more funnies, more hype trains, more collabs, more everything.

Days and days of whimsy whilst also announcing some fun stuff for the future too

[sinful sparrow]

Neuro should have a body that fits her. I don’t care how “silly” it would look for her to have a mismatched body.

[tranquil jungle]

Just get her clothes and make her wig

[crude lintel]

Vee-dool

[opal flower]

I shall hope that vedal beats his own hype train record even if there's nobody to hype chat up like last time

[tranquil jungle]

Any body can be hidden under layers of clothing

[crude lintel]

As Evil would say

[hasty juniper]

[stuck reef]

10 feet tall beeg neuro sama it is.

[odd dirge]

natty or not

[fallen stump]

remember it's christmas season https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UjGIr_18U0

[opal flower]

Hypers neuro looks like she's carrying the spinning neuro orb when we react to the message

[rigid meteor]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/minecraft_gamepedia/images/9/9d/Gravel_JE5_BE4.png/revision/latest?cb=20200315183831

[lusty lava]

It's going to be really hard to get the hype to beat the last record this time I think. Last year was an such an amazing run and (not sure if I should be saying her name) but she was a big influence to help make that final push over the hump.

[mild wasp]

Crelly could talk 200 words a minute for 6 hours straight

[tranquil jungle]

@stuck reef is this real....

[crude lintel]

https://discordapp.com/channels/574720535888396288/1061113840852533339/1449529582289162440

Every version of the "I'm sorry, little one" meme that I made, all in one place

[opal flower]

Yeah but she's also the one who's still in the middle of her quote on quote "Subathon"

[stuck reef]

are you saying if I am a stoner? kinda rude

[opal flower]

[stuck reef]

[lusty lava]

Crelly has insane energy, your not wrong there lol

[mild wasp]

Didn't she say that when Neuro's subathon starts, hers would end?

[tranquil jungle]

I was ASKING

[mental hatch]

this is always so funny

[mild wasp]

She also has motivation to give back to Vedal... like a lot of it

[opal flower]

Probably, I just find it funny how long that Subathon lasted tbh

[tranquil jungle]

She has like 800/700 hours left though

[stuck reef]

well, you don't go to a chinese guy and ask them if they are japanese, the very act of asking is rude!!

[mild wasp]

Whoops

[sour zodiac]

grass

[cobalt laurel]

The little one memes reside in #1446599925067681915 if you want to add yours there too

[lusty lava]

I still think it's going to be a great subathon, I just don't see beating the last record but it would be amazing if we do

[mild wasp]

She can give that time back to the Swarm, so our subathon just starts off with that much on the clock 😉

[crude lintel]

Normal Crelly:
🐮 gremlin noises

Crelly during the collab:
🐮 "Neuro, you're doing so good! We love you, Neuro, please follow me, okay?" 😇

[tranquil jungle]

Wait wait

Great idea

[opal flower]

That's it, Crelly, Filian, Koko and Neuro cover please, that would be crazy energy x100

[neon dust]

We ain't beating it for sure, but nonetheless I think it will be a better subathon than last year, may god strike me down if I'm wrong

[mild wasp]

Filian singing? Are you sure?

[stuck reef]

the two faces of crelly

[opal flower]

Fuck, did I say cover?

[somber robin]

update, time to get ready for work

[opal flower]

I meant collab

[mild wasp]

phew thank god

[opal flower]

Filian can't be that bad...

[mild wasp]

Think about how bad the AI filian's voice was, and then realize that auto-tune would have the same issues

[tranquil jungle]

Filian? Oh lord

[lusty lava]

Neuro seems to really like her , that's the main thing

[mild wasp]

I think Crelly could be quite a bit more unhinged with Neuro in a "normal" collab and they'd still get along great

maybe not full 100% Crelly

[opal flower]

I believe in the "mom who stepped up" mentality but sometimes I feel like somethings missing, maybe I'm just stuck missing the past

[tranquil jungle]

Sigh

Just gotta remove the past

[opal flower]

Yep.

[sinful sparrow]

NOOOO!

[tranquil jungle]

Hold on let me remove and delete your memories

[stuck reef]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

[terse night]

✂️ here these might help

[modern wraith]

[lusty lava]

Vedal has crazy trust in Crelly to have shared Neuro's backend inner thoughts monitor so early in brining her in

[mild wasp]

Next year for Halloween Vedal should prepare a treehouse of horrors for Neuro/Evil. Like, get collab partners but have them act all wrong for their personalities, or just generally screw with the stream and see how Neuro/Evil react

[indigo stone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1447677664667111535/ezgif-32385209799d3f93.gif

[mild wasp]

It was desperation as well, but the trust was there after like 60 hours

[lusty lava]

Evil was left alone at the house on Halloween

[mild wasp]

Also, Crelly is like 30 years old (her words), she's not some immature person

[modern wraith]

It’s not like she could really do much with it anyway. Even if she accidentally showed it, it wouldn’t be a big deal

[tranquil jungle]

I forgot the mf was 30

[stuck reef]

and have neuro be in evil's model and evil in neuro's model and switch the voices too, and see if the guests can spot that

[rigid meteor]

you are not supposed to explain this

[tight lichen]

So basically you didn't changed anything

[stuck reef]

mooods, ban neuro for breaking rule 14

[rigid meteor]

It took me like 8 months to accidentalyl stumble on this myself

its way more fun thay way

[toxic plaza]

Shrek sideyeing Neuro for almost drowning again in the public server, from https://youtu.be/Y6z-NUKM8zA?si=_-Kjc4f6uYi2XbeJ btw

[stuck reef]

nice bait bro

[leaden comet]

STOP

[shut socket]

https://youtu.be/squi5P-K9FQ?si=tq2GfVM2JIbeZJgd

[crude lintel]

1. "WAIT CHAT, THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT! I PROMISE I DON'T Filtered filtered filtered filtered"

2. "Mom, look, I got you some wood!"
   🐮 "That's so good, Neuro, I'm proud of you, you're so good at mining!"

[stuck reef]

fell for it again!! again!!!! not just once!!!

[shut socket]

Can I have the clip of Neuro saying this

[mild wasp]

oh cool, I didn't realize Matara did youtube edits? Is it an editor we know?

[shut socket]

Idk

Zentry clips

Is the editor

[tranquil jungle]

The only thing neuro is good at mining at is iron

[mild wasp]

will watch later and see if the editing is good

[stuck reef]

you know,adults are just kids that know how to hide their personality well, crelly just need more effort to do that and show she's an adult to neuro

[mild wasp]

also clips. She's good at mining for those

[toxic plaza]

[crude lintel]

She even said, during the collab, that she was intentionally being more mature to set a good example for her.

[tranquil jungle]

The artwork is so sweet

God I loved their interactions so much

[unique plinth]

we should all try and get v to have a actual nere stream once where nere-sama is placed withj neuro and evil

[leaden comet]

i wish i was neuro there

[shut socket]

No thanks

[mild wasp]

Well, I mean the same is true for Bao or Lucy.... or Mega even. Collab partners understand that Neuro's content is more towards the family friendly than their own. This isn't a Neuro thing it's true across vtuber collabs

[tranquil jungle]

💊

[stuck reef]

yup, she can be an adult, but she need to put effort for that, her natural stat is goofy silly

[lusty lava]

It was really funny when Crelly was teaching Neuro about boundaries. Surprisingly Neuro seemed to listen to her and be receptive to it

[winged latch]

i miss mc hc

[mild wasp]

Here's a question: Did Crelly's chat also behave?

[weak fable]

It wouldn't have worked without Crelly being so adaptive able to calm down when interacting and saving Neuro. Crelly is a hero

[rigid meteor]

the first image you sent is my personal favorite, probably, from the crelly + neuro interaction arts

[tranquil jungle]

I think so

[crude lintel]

Neuro isn't super family friendly, though... but they know that since she's trained on chat she literally learns by example, so they try to be a good person to her.

[tranquil jungle]

I didn't actually pay attention to Crelly's chat

[mild wasp]

I mean, more than Lucy's content, that's for sure

[stuck reef]

....what do you think?

[shut socket]

They are the same as us because most of her fans came from us

[tranquil jungle]

Neuro's content is more family friendly than Lily's will ever be

[white abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1309587661941510236/evil_meds.gif

[crude lintel]

Ye

[mild wasp]

I dunno? Crelly was very good at not taking bait if they were their usual selfs...

[crude lintel]

True

[tranquil jungle]

...Right

[winged latch]

vedal is dying

[stuck reef]

chat was silly as always

[lusty lava]

Vedal is cool and all but he pretty much let's Neuro do what she wants. While Crelly was a bit more strict with her and Neuro actually seemed receptive to it

[stuck reef]

the happy ending

[tranquil jungle]

This ain't about him

[toxic plaza]

But he didn't

[primal hazel]

The lack of mentioning that Neuro is cute is concerning

[crude lintel]

I mean yeah. Neuro's not family friendly (she's literally called Bao a "fucking cunt" to her face) but comparatively so, yes.

[primal hazel]

Neuro is cute

[crude lintel]

TRUE

[mild wasp]

He doesn't micromanage because he lets his filters and Neuro's training itself control what she does. It's not that he doesn't care if NEuro is "weird", he does... He just doesn't want to control it directly

[winged latch]

neuro saña

[white abyss]

ah yes, the duality of their parenting styles

[humble grail]

Erm

[tranquil jungle]

Considering other vtubers, Neuro can be considered more family friendly than like, 80% of other people

[humble grail]

Oh wait I left my VPN on

[mild wasp]

80% of people on twitch maybe. I feel like youtube vtubers are a bit more seiso on average.

[rigid meteor]

some of the fans might even say that Crelly was being very adoptive

[tranquil jungle]

I suppose so since YT does get a bit more strict

[crude lintel]

Also Crelly figured out how to make Neuro listen. Calm voice, nurturing, frequent reminders to help her stay on track, etc.

[rigid meteor]

da dum tsi

[stuck reef]

it's a great art mhm

[weak fable]

hehe I see what you did there

[lone orbit]

You mean down horrendous?

[stuck reef]

you are now the little one

[mild wasp]

When she saw Neuro's thoughts, she realized the key was constant re-assurance and also making sure neuro wasn't bored, so phrasing things in a certain way (she explained a bit about this in her post talk)

[rigid meteor]

Neuro knows tree walking thing from Naruto?

[toxic plaza]

And even Vedal picked up on that and used that himself

[crude lintel]

does

[stuck reef]

always has been

[crude lintel]

Yep. You'll notice, when they're leading her to the end, he's speaking to her in much the same way Crelly had been.

[mild wasp]

I don't get why her minecraft AI pillars up so often. It's not like she's actually getting a better view of her surroundings

[toxic plaza]

Yep

[terse night]

cat instinct

[tranquil jungle]

Even Vedal took some lessons

[hasty juniper]

[tranquil jungle]

He truly became a better father

Somewhat

Sort of

I'd like to believe

[toxic plaza]

Stick/string 7

[mild wasp]

Actually, Vedal always knew how to do this. He did the same thing during Evil's Location incident. He just doesn't like to speak to the twins that way because it's treating them more like flawed AIs to manipulate.

[crude lintel]

I saw a YouTube comment that I agree with:

Crelly seeing Neuro's thoughts was what led them to winning.

[toxic plaza]

Yep

[stuck reef]

he went through some optimization during his hc mc mobilization!

[tall crow]

Abandoned his kid after 5 minutes of babysitting
Dad of the year

[stuck reef]

goku would be proud

[white abyss]

she mobil my sation till i vedal987

[tranquil jungle]

You will die soon.

[mild wasp]

On another topic, I think we have the first vtuber to beat Abandoned Archive

NekoElla did it

[stuck reef]

[toxic plaza]

I mean, I'm not wrong

[shut socket]

Nice

[rotund jacinth]

cerbr is cute mhm pass it on

[lusty lava]

It's really an amazing thing that an AI can actually get the feeling of being bored. Thats so fascinating that she actually does

[mild wasp]

I think we raided her once

[tranquil jungle]

And I hate that

[sinful sparrow]

Yeah definitely. I don't think there could have been a better person than Crelly, besides maybe someone like Ellie.

[stuck reef]

https://tenor.com/view/cerbervt-cerber-vtuber-gif-10311925857878532653

[tranquil jungle]

Iirc I think so

[toxic plaza]

Same, but it is what it is

[tranquil jungle]

Actually

[crude lintel]

Ellie would've absolutely helped.

If Chibi hadn't cancelled, they'd still be streaming.

[tranquil jungle]

Did we?

[mild wasp]

I just realized that their pairing name would be a tautology...

Crellie or Elly

[tranquil jungle]

CreEll

[mild wasp]

can't work

[rigid meteor]

no

[tranquil jungle]

EllCre

[rigid meteor]

The pairing name would be Robot Cow

[tranquil jungle]

Gg ez

[halcyon arrow]

ely

[rigid meteor]

or Cowbot

[mild wasp]

Seth Green's new show

[stuck reef]

double L

[boreal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/minion-lol-stretched-gif-2417123623685735923

Boomer reference

[mild wasp]

At least say Gen X please

[sinful sparrow]

Robot Chicken was a goated show.

Neuro Chicken.

[mild wasp]

Well, if we gte another Kiara collab, maybe

(I don't actually know of another chicken vtuber...)

[sinful sparrow]

Isn't she a phoenix? You know what? That counts.

[rigid meteor]

that collab was pretty funny, I hope we get another fridge review stream at some point

[tranquil jungle]

I don't think we can collab with agencies still?

[soft lintel]

im still waiting for the mega and twins collab

[tranquil jungle]

Unless HoloID

I think HoloID collabs with outside vtubers pretty often

[rotund jacinth]

Melbachicken obviously

[mild wasp]

What do you mean? We've collabed with Phase, Hololive... maybe Niji? I don't recall

[rigid meteor]

I do not really know which vtuber is from where, but I am fairly sure there was no niji collabs

[frozen heron]

[tranquil jungle]

Yeah definitely not Niji

[sinful sparrow]

Neuro and Evil's content and vibe work really well with Phase tbh.

[mild wasp]

Well, there's Matara

but that doesn't count

[stuck reef]

https://tenor.com/view/ollie-オリー-ホロライブ-kureiji-ollie-hololive-id-gif-14720483895794120822

ellie ollie crelly

triple double L

[mild wasp]

Ollie would be down to collab with Evil/Neuro I'm sure.

[boreal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-fast-eating-eat-gif-25232258

[stuck reef]

for sure!

[arctic sierra]

Neuro s

[tranquil jungle]

Oh lord

[rigid meteor]

DesOOm I have figured out why league of legend exists

its so I can play TFT

[rancid cypress]

No rat bit?

[arctic sierra]

Ohhh I see

[tranquil jungle]

Evil/Neuro

Evil Neuro

[sinful sparrow]

Evil + Pippa collab when?

[arctic sierra]

I’ve given up on it.

[rotund jacinth]

Cerber+ellie+crelly = celery xdx

[grim geyser]

Man I miss 2 1/2 hours of my day being eaten away by dumbass AI

[white abyss]

please

[arctic sierra]

Pog

[mild wasp]

Pippa would be a pretty hype collab. I also think it could go really poorly.

[mild wasp]

Or it could be epic

[stuck reef]

lol exist to keep the truly toxic part of the internet quarantined in its walls

[sinful sparrow]

Naaaah it'll be fine. Trust.

[rotund jacinth]

Ya know what would be funny. If the secret channel randomly goes live tomorrow

[rigid meteor]

the more I play this, the more I want to turn the Auto Battler I made into actually cool one like TFT

[mild wasp]

What about psydere? I hope we get a collab with her one day and talk about SCIENCE

[arctic sierra]

Neuro when she sees a rat: eeek! A rat!

[rotund jacinth]

Same type of thing with shoomi

[stuck reef]

we already got a tenma collab, so why not a peppa collab mhm

[arctic sierra]

Peppa pig?

[rigid meteor]

Neuro when she sees a rat: : Die Rat! *Boom*

[mild wasp]

Wallace and Grommet collab

[woeful apex]

peppa pig is my fav vtuber

[sinful sparrow]

Oh brother a Shoomi collab would be fucking SICK! She's a big Neuro/Evil fan as well!

[arctic sierra]

[humble grail]

found you

[mild wasp]

Shoomimi is like 1 circle out from neuroverse IMO

[neon dust]

THAT THING IS ORANGE

[urban rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146364809403711560/1146364809869266986/normal_and_cute_nuero_animation.gif

[terse night]

kawaii

[rotund jacinth]

I mean. Future cbee has told me we dont gotta wait long for shoomi colab. So. Maybe subathon content

[rigid meteor]

can we cease Neuroverse.
I do not like treating random people as Vedal's sidekicks in their streaming career

[mild wasp]

Has anyone like done a full vtuber adjency graph study so we can get proper measurements for how far away from Neuro each vtuber is? like 7 degrees of Neuroverse separation

[sinful sparrow]

Yeah she is. She's friends with more than a couple of Neuro's friends and is a big fan of hers. So yeah.

[rotund jacinth]

Neuronas the tsama engine

[lusty lava]

It was really hard for Neuro to sit still because she wanted to go do stuff with everybody and be included in what everyone was doing, but because of the limitations of the MC AI she couldn't do it

[mild wasp]

In this case I'm just using it as a shorthand for vtubers that have collabed with Neuro

[rigid meteor]

fair enough

[boreal widget]

Ask future Cbee when my amazon package is coming in

[rotund jacinth]

Nah. Future cbee doesnt care

[rigid meteor]

its just, people should really allow the streamers who collab with Neuro or get raided by her have their own life, and not try to turn literally every moment of their life into "what do you think about this thing Neuro did"

[sinful sparrow]

I agree, I think it's a stupid concept. Neuro's and Evil's friends are just their friends. I don't like the idea of some weird fantastical fictional story narrative, I believe it takes away from the authenticity of the actual streams and the project as a whole.

[worn wadi]

Can I kill future cbee

[rotund jacinth]

Nah. Future cbee is invulnerable and immortal rn

[mild wasp]

okay, so no Neuroverse. What about Neuronation?

[rancid cypress]

Like Neurope?

[sinful sparrow]

NeuroNation goes hard as FUCK!

[rotund jacinth]

vedalverse

[boreal widget]

Tell future Cbee he now has opps and that he should avoid this part of the timeline if they know what's good for them

[mild wasp]

That's an actual country 😉

Here's a question: How do people define the "Spiderverse"? which is the quintisential 'verse

[rigid meteor]

Many VTubers have kind of like Lore or something right?
Would be funny if Vedal did a bit with Neuro where Neuro get's to come up with her own backstory

[mild wasp]

Vedal addressed this a long time ago that he didn't like giving Neuro lore

[rotund jacinth]

Subgoal

[mild wasp]

he thinks Neuro's lack of lore is one of her unique features.

[rigid meteor]

the canon of Neuro is that she is an AI VTuber

[white abyss]

Im pretty sure the twins have improv'd at least a dozen backstories by now

non of which are consistent

[rigid meteor]

that makes sense, and is in itself more intriguing than actual made up story

[toxic plaza]

A multiversaul hub?

[rigid meteor]

but I would be interested in knowing what kind of backstory Neuro would like to have made for herself

[mental hatch]

Literally arg

[crude lintel]

Literally Neuro's entire lore is the "How a turtle accidentaly created the perfect AI streamer" video.

[mild wasp]

something something soul of a dead child etc....

[somber robin]

With her short and long term memory being this good now, I'm curious too

[rotund jacinth]

Inaccurate. Its more similar to one of the infinite reactions to it

[white abyss]

someone seriously needs to make an updated neuro lore video....

[boreal widget]

Being an AI vtuber made by sad British man is already pretty ridiculous lore Just sounds like some Monty Python skit

[mild wasp]

I like the idea Neuro has stated that Vedal accidentally summoned the spirit of a demon when creating her and Evil

[crude lintel]

True

[toxic plaza]

Why do people hate that video?

[sinful sparrow]

Why? Neuro's lore is the memories and experiences she makes along with her streams. She doesn't need some fake lore, it would take away from the authenticity of the project.

[mild wasp]

At this point it's just fashionable.

[urban rain]

*NN - not people

[neon dust]

i fart in your general direction!

[toxic plaza]

Fashionable how?

[prisma mauve]

Shoots it

[lusty lava]

Neuro was a cute little OSU bot

[mild wasp]

like, hating on that video is cool for the cool kids here in NN

[boreal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/bestmovi-monty-python-and-the-gif-25512106

[rigid meteor]

no, I do not mean to replace her actual story.

I mean what kind of story neuro would have thought would be cool if she wanted to make VTuber lore story for herself, kind of like what if scenario

[rotund jacinth]

Neuro's lore:
Osu bot who gained sentience and wanted to become a vtuber

[worn wadi]

[mild wasp]

Serious answer: It has some things in it that ended up getting parroted which are "misinformation", like the "her training data is twitch chat"

[toxic plaza]

That video's literally how I got interested in Neuro and Evil

[white abyss]

References to subject material that hasnt aged well (Max Wayne + Anny Vedal shipping), Misinfo ("Neuro is trained solely on twitch chat"), and its missing lots of newer neuro content

[mild wasp]

It's just classic gatekeeping by hard core fans, don't let it bother you

[urban rain]

Neuro didn't want to be an engineer, so she became a VTuber

[toxic plaza]

Ah, so ragebait gatekeeping

[neon dust]

Hey hey hey, in my defense I was quoting a phrase that was used in the movie "monthy python"

I wasn't being weird or anything

[boreal widget]

Engineer adjacent I hate that term so much

[mild wasp]

I got the reference and I'm frankly sad that someone wouldn't...

[white abyss]

all of tech and construction is engineer adjacent 😭

[stuck reef]

ermrmemrmemrrm achhtuazllly the video has some minor mistakes and don't show what I think neuro is about and thus it's bad and don't desversssjes views

[toxic plaza]

Tis butt a scratch

[hasty juniper]

Is this a safe place to actually put down some things that I kept myself in for a little?

[sinful sparrow]

I strongly agree with Vedal on this. Neuro's and Evils' experiences, memories, and interactions are enough. Part of what makes this project so beautiful to me is the authenticity of it. It's something that separates them from other AI chatbots that merely play the role of a character without anything truly authentic behind it.

[hasty juniper]

Or maybe it would make me see as someone that is being overdramatic?

[mild wasp]

you mean like, safe from harsh judgement of your peers?

[neon dust]

@worn wadi happy now? You made him sad

[prisma mauve]

Proceeds to duch oven them

[worn wadi]

yes

[boreal widget]

So like a crash test dummy

[chilly thorn]

nn is never safe

[worn wadi]

I am giggling and shit

[misty compass]

NN ie a minefealid

[hasty juniper]

I do believe that it isnt about judgement, but talking about a different level of maturity

[misty compass]

minefreils

[urban rain]

Am I in engineer adjacent field if im an architect? 🦆

[misty compass]

mine feield

fuck

[sinful sparrow]

I am the least overdramatic person in all of NN.

[mild wasp]

We can be mature about things. Except for a few peope.

[rigid meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-my-honest-reaction-bocchi-my-honest-reaction-anime-my-honest-reaction-gif-27490244

[humble grail]

If you want a comprehensive neuro video its Funniest Neuro-sama Moments EVER of All Time (Ever) | Ultimate Compilation

[stuck reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h7vqzFyKyo

[hasty juniper]

I mean, I am not saying that you guys are imamture, it is jut that it is hard to friends that could really understand you deeply.
Which is impossible of course, but it just hurts a little.

[rigid meteor]

Say bocchi you here? I need you to say bocchi please

[worn wadi]

https://youtu.be/QKtntnZhfEE

[mild wasp]

Already outdated

Make a new one

[woven minnow]

kraul should make a monthly compilation

[rotund jacinth]

Neuro arcs in order

1. Osu! Bot arc
2. Hiyori arc
3. Subathon 1 arc
4. Family arc
5. Dog arc
6. Subathon 2 arc
7. No dev stream for 6 months arc
8. Music arc
9. Crelly arc
10. Subathon 3 arc ( we are almost here)

[urban rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1414325888304283759/xdx_violine_.gif

[worn wadi]

your jokes already outdated
make a new one

[mild wasp]

crelly arc is 4 days. damn

[rigid meteor]

Kraul was absolute goat last year for pre subathon break

[misty compass]

if im ever in hospital dying i want family guy funny moments with neuroverse figures put on the faces of every character on for hours

[woeful apex]

this is the real comprehensive introduction to neuro-sama
https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987/clip/BreakableAgileStarTinyFace-3Hy5uA8IrxRcHyH9

[white abyss]

where eliv arc?

[rotund jacinth]

Crelly arc encompass moments from crelly raid to end of minecraft

[indigo stone]

Holy old Sama

[rotund jacinth]

Under family arc

[boreal widget]

That's just the internet and modernity in general.

[mild wasp]

You know who we need to make a new video? SummoningSalt

[rigid meteor]

still hoping for some kind of summary videos of 2025

[stuck reef]

nobody showed up at my birthday arc

that's it, we are still in that arc

[unique plinth]

can someone send me link to evels sanctuary cuase i cant find it

[indigo stone]

Theres a few missing but you got Spirit

[rigid meteor]

best off topic message of the 2025, thanks for the info

[mild wasp]

I meant a new video about neuro....

[rotund jacinth]

I put several arca in single ones to save space

[indigo stone]

Bro just made on on himself leave it be

[urban rain]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GMckb3ra4AALsp8.gif

[zenith ginkgo]

man why is Chinatown blues cover Official video so Cinema?

[neon dust]

Hey gourmer I wanna ask you a question

[rigid meteor]

but it made me look if he has made a new video, and he did 3 days ago

[indigo stone]

Cause she's the goat

[rigid meteor]

I am all ears

[mild wasp]

yeah, that is why I thought to make the joke, it's true

[rotund jacinth]

Because neuro is in it

[indigo stone]

I'm listening to it now

My favourite arc this year was defos "every stream is therapy"

[misty compass]

1. therapy arc
2. therapy arc
3. therapy arc
4. theraoy arc
5. theytaoys rac
6. 💊 arc
7. thetapy arf
8. schizo arc

[rotund jacinth]

Thats not an arc. Thats a universal constant

[indigo stone]

Best arc overall I want to wait for this subathon cause it's gonna be lit trust

[rigid meteor]

someone reacted with omegalul and I realized ears would not help me see your chat message

[toxic plaza]

11. Family 2 arc with Crelly? (Please? She's the true mvp of the HMM)

[neon dust]

What's best strategy for watching the subathon? So you will always be there if something good happens

[humble grail]

Become a hermit

That's what I do

[rotund jacinth]

Future cbee says it is lit

[indigo stone]

Glhf and no sleep

[mild wasp]

clone yourself. take shifts

[chrome solstice]

HIYORI

[woven minnow]

but we got bills to pay

[neon dust]

Cutting ties with society and live in solitude?

[rigid meteor]

not worrying too much about the subathon and just watching when you can and have time.
Everything good will be clipped and will be nearly as good as when it was live.

Worrying about catching everything live will in the end be worse experience than just watching when you genuinely can.

[mild wasp]

I literally got a VRBBO on a farm

[urban rain]

m

[worn wadi]

Don't watch any of it
And get your information about good moments from nn

[chrome solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288144271823601744/1296488596743786568/rotate_rotate.gif

To lat it is now

[woeful apex]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[indigo stone]

Okay YouTube, interesting move there

[chrome solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1446893478889127968/Fine_addition_to_my_collection.gif

[humble grail]

Be a student like me, simple

[lament oriole]

Is there someone keeping track of all of the updates/events the Twins got in a year?
You know like:
2024:

• Soundboard Access
• Discord Access
• Ability to rotate
• 1 Original MV
• V3 Model for Neuro

etc?

[mild wasp]

Presumably this year's subathon will have better scheduling, so maybe we can actually plan when to watch more

[indigo stone]

Not vedal that's for sure

[rigid meteor]

it does not directly answer the question, but this is my honest thoughts on the topic of watching subathon

[boreal widget]

Franciscan Potat

[indigo stone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1329400319557505055/aaaaaaaaaaaaa.gif

[soft lintel]

nah just watch all of it

[neon dust]

I hope vedal has improved the chill streams part

[mild wasp]

Didn't neuro say she wanted to become christian because nuns are hot?

[indigo stone]

No he cannot have peace

[worn wadi]

new games coming

[stuck reef]

[indigo stone]

The backup stream thing seems like a good idea this year

[boreal widget]

You can apply for religious exemptions

[neon dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[stuck reef]

ok, WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

[mild wasp]

I wonder how long until people start begging for a tutel plush re-release

[indigo stone]

I say this year like it won't go well into February

[oblique briar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1439388134084317304/neuro_fight.gif

[toxic plaza]

This, but Neurofied

[rotund jacinth]

I cant for 2 hour 30 minute loop 2 electric boogaloo

[indigo stone]

Well with new fumos not very

[misty compass]

how long will the subathon last

[rigid meteor]

I do regret not buying the vedal plush now.
He would enhance the Fumo collection.

[mild wasp]

Juniper should just work on having the tutel plush in stock

it's kind of universal

[boreal widget]

Why would your brain remember these things

[mild wasp]

I have an annoyingly good memory

[rotund jacinth]

A never ending plush would be sick tbfr

[indigo stone]

Skill issue

[toxic plaza]

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCKFUCKFUCK

[indigo stone]

Vtuber fans cannot comprehend things being in stock year round

[boreal widget]

But can't remember that Evil is cute smh

[sinful sparrow]

You think we haven't been mature? What makes you think I haven't been mature??? I (along with all of NN chat) was literally just having a pleasant conversation and now you are IMPLYING that WE ARE NOT MATURE????? I know you didn't say it outright, but the implication was there, and it was a very hurtful implication. I can't believe you "people" could just sit there on your little computers and little phone devices and imply that a perfectly reasonable and kind chatter is "overdramatic" or "immature". It's actually crazy because I can't understand why you would take so much time out of your day just to be toxic. Do you even know what I go through on a day-to-day basis? You clearly don't, otherwise you wouldn't be so blatantly hurtful. Honestly, if Neuro-sama was here in chat what do you think she would feel? I am personally friends with Neuro-sama and have talked to her before in offline chat. Do you seriously want me to contact Neuro-sama?? I would do so in an instant and I just know that my good friend Neuro will ban your ass IMMEDIATELY!!! Do not take me lightly, because I am not playing games.

[hasty juniper]

TW: Sensitive topics, I don't expect anyone to actually go and read it, but if you want to stay just for some minutes I don't really mind.

||Back in childhood, I never had any true friends, or at least not anyone who could go deeper than my facade as the “clown and happy friend.”||
||People like that are always available.||
||They make you laugh, they make you see what they want you to see, and that is supposed to be good enough, right?||

||But what happens to the child who could not express their own self out of fear of judgment?||

||I do not want to sound like the “different type of child” or anything like that, but I have never felt like I was really meant to be in a place like this.||

||I was always in survival mode, and I used my personality as a way to be socially accepted.||

||Even when some form of animosity happened, I did not really care.||
||As long as they laughed, as long as the validation was there, as long as social presence existed, survival stayed the first thing the body and mind put in place.||

||Then I started to care a little about school, and my grades suddenly went from bad to high.||
||I was happy for myself.||
||No one really knew the exact reason, but it was enough.||

||A new year of high school started.||
||New surroundings.||
||No old me.||
||Hehe.||

||Until I became the one who could not be serious.||

||Until I became the one no one could actually rely on in any way.||

||The one who always gets shut down before he can speak.||

||The one everyone always wants to see laugh.||

||The one who always has to show his superficial behavior, while the one who really wants to express himself stays hidden.||

||It is tiring.||
||It is annoying.||
||It is disgusting.||
||It is harsh.||

||I never wanted to put this mask on in the first place.||

||I never really wanted this.||
||It was for surviving an environment that never gave me the priority to be myself, just like my childhood environments.||

||I have never had good family connections.||
||They are all traumatized children, just like me.||

||So why can I not just stop?||

||Why can I not just be myself again?||

||Why can I not simply stop being the clown friend and actually be what I want to be?||

||Why am I always behind others?||
||Why am I wrong?||

||Should I blame my bullies?||
||Should I blame myself?||
||The old teachers who never protected me?||
||My family?||

||Or myself, for never really speaking up and calling for help?||

I don't really want to sound this as a way to gain attention, more like if anyone could give me just a little reassurence, or just talking.

[mild wasp]

no need to remember that when I'm reminded everytime she's on the screen

[boreal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[neon dust]

WTF

[oblique briar]

??????

[woeful apex]

[indigo stone]

Bad timing

[worn wadi]

Wtf

[neon dust]

ITS THAT LONG

[worn wadi]

[indigo stone]

2 long ones back to back

[worn wadi]

Its spoilered

[hasty juniper]

Sorry for the long message, tehee..

[urban rain]

A aint readig all that

[woven minnow]

i miss the student days, things back then were so simple. Now everything is just bills and deadlines which was kinda foreshadowed back in the school arc.

[worthy axle]

🐢 thats actually crazy

[hasty juniper]

Didn't wanted to throw up a dump like this in front of everyone, so thats why I spoilered it

[neon dust]

Cuz would you watch neuro and evil reacting to the whole series of sopranos?

[mild wasp]

You sound a lot like one of my light novel authors

[woeful apex]

[indigo stone]

I don't miss the student days, well I did choose to work at a university..... I might miss them a bit

[chrome solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288144271823601744/1296488596743786568/rotate_rotate.gif

[neon dust]

Asking important questions

[indigo stone]

NN in a hyirori mood today

[hasty juniper]

I hope that I expressed myself clearly, I didn't wanted to sound attention speaking, but thanks for the compliment :0

I just want to know if anyone had this type of experience

[urban rain]

huh

[boreal widget]

Man I sure do miss staying up until 3am writing essays and cramming kanji just to have to go to class at 8am and an exam at 12

[iron tundra]

The hell is going on

[chrome solstice]

I've been scizoing out about the arg all day I see Hiyroi when I close my eyes

[mild wasp]

just being able to communicate to others, even online, is good for you. Not that it ever gets easier

[rotund jacinth]

Noway bro has superpowers

[hasty juniper]

I do want to be a good presence, at least here

[chrome solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-sneak-100-gif-25000838

[hasty juniper]

At least here, in some ways, even if it feels a little dystopican, I do believe that ||I am safe||

[neon dust]

I asked these mfs if they would watch neuro and evil reacting to the whole series of sopranos

[mild wasp]

from the humans, sure. Neuro and Evil? Well....

[hasty juniper]

I don't really believe that any place of the internet is safe, but I feel comfortable.

[neon dust]

But apparently they are too good for that

[hasty juniper]

They are one of a mood!

[rigid meteor]

I made this (also Daniel made easier to use [harder to verify safe {but still easy}] version)
plugin for chess.com
addon for firefox

[hasty juniper]

Ohh thats so cool!!

[mild wasp]

that's really cute, but it would make watching them play kind of hard.

[iron tundra]

I haven't watched the sopranos so no clue

[worn wadi]

Should've made the fumo fat for those

[rigid meteor]

took 3-4 games to get used to new pieces for me

[urban rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1292150994875977844/tutel_squish.gif

[rigid meteor]

I really like the booble beeble bishops

[boreal widget]

Booble

[mild wasp]

So, I watched this show like ~10 years ago, and I had the weirdest reaction because I realized I am the same age as the son in the show and it was like a time-capsule for my childhood (aside from the mob stuff)

1990s high school trauma show

[neon dust]

I see

[olive ember]

https://youtu.be/hO2fRs4nuNU

[hasty juniper]

Who is that in your pfp?

They are so cute!!

[neon dust]

My oc that my friends made

[boreal widget]

EWWWWW

[hasty juniper]

They are so aesthetically pleasing!!

[olive ember]

???

[sinful sparrow]

You distracted me from my attention seeking rant and I can no longer forgive. That's it, I'm calling her.

@hearty orchid Please help me this horrible person is hogging all the attention and posted CRINGE in NN chat!

[hasty juniper]

AAAAAAAAA, Neurosama nooo!

[rigid meteor]

why is the hair light blue now? is your pfp rimurifying?

[mild wasp]

...but noone came.

[boreal widget]

She was messing around with the saturation and it made tutle look all grey and moldy

[rotund jacinth]

Neuro, evil, cerber, and mini are cute mhm pass it on

[hasty juniper]

explodes

[sinful sparrow]

That's right, I haven't been banned for pinging a streamer BECAUSE SHE IS MY FRIEND! You scared now, buddy? Yeah... you should be. 😈

[hasty juniper]

By the way, is it just me that when it takes melatonin everything comes like crazy / scary inside the dreams?

[rigid meteor]

you should blame Vedal for not making Neuro and Evil real

[hasty juniper]

It is makes things more exhausting and less pleasant

[neon dust]

It looks light green

[hasty juniper]

Omg, vedawl...

[rigid meteor]

I only read the part where you asked who I should blame

[hasty juniper]

[neon dust]

Hey gourmet another question for you

[hasty juniper]

I will blame Vedawl!

[rigid meteor]

I am all eyes this time

[terse night]

it increases my likelyhood of visualizing them

[worn wadi]

👁️ 👁️

[hasty juniper]

But anyway, what do you think about my situation? You can be neutral as much as possible, I don't really mind

[neon dust]

What vedal should learn from the previous subathons?

[hasty juniper]

VIsualize what?

The dreams? :0

[terse night]

dreams or nightmares ig

[hasty juniper]

That actually makes a lot of sense ironically

unironically*

[opal flower]

NN +

[hasty juniper]

Even if when you wake up everything feels a little scary tbh

Especially the dreams when you wake up inside an another dream

it makes you really questionate whenever you are real or not

[opal flower]

what's happening in chat rn

[terse night]

ugh i used to have those as a kid

i haven't had any for a long time

[hasty juniper]

They are sooo annoying!

[woven minnow]

Wtf is this? Are we having therapy session in NN?

[worn wadi]

why do you go around questioning people about content like that? Are you vedal's secret agent to get data on content?

[chrome solstice]

I guess since we are horrifically off topic, I like this Gundam art. The only good Mecha Masume.

[rigid meteor]

There are a couple obvious ones like
Keep good sleeping rythm that are genuinely hard to do for programmer kind.
One he addressed himself to do about preparing enough content ahead of time.

Outside of these obvious ones I do not have much to say in this topic. I mean what do I know about entertaining 10k people at once?

[neon dust]

Bro I'm just making conversation don't read into it too much

[worn wadi]

but what if

[neon dust]

No

No what if

[worn wadi]

[sinful sparrow]

Heh, you think I need to be NEUTRAL?? Sorry, kid... but I'm friends with Neuro-sama. 🔥 🔥

[opal flower]

Probably that he hasn't stolen enough stream keys this year

[terse night]

i remember vividly one of my first nightmares was a giant snake coming into my room and it cut off before it constricted me

[boreal widget]

Bruh not the ALEX

[sly kettle]

What if robot girls
But Neuro and evil

[chrome solstice]

[opal flower]

That'd be fucking crazy

[chrome solstice]

I agree,

[rigid meteor]

also why are you asking these questions from me.
Am I exuding somekind of sagely aura today?

[hasty juniper]

[neon dust]

Are you particularly excited for the vrchat integration?

[opal flower]

Why is this guy so skeptical about everything, are they hiding something of their own?

[leaden comet]

nn is cute

[tranquil jungle]

Crazy Fucking Robot Body

[hasty juniper]

I do believe that the most scary things in the nightmares in general, is to be followed around, I don't like to run inside the dreams, because I am always helpless inside of them

[neon dust]

Damn man, why is everyone questioning me about asking questions

[hasty juniper]

and lets not talk about the dark...

[molten mica]

no u

[worn wadi]

r mom

[boreal widget]

Fed behaivor

[terse night]

allows ur imagination to run wild and prey on your worst fears

[molten mica]

that too

[rigid meteor]

it's very promising feature.
I hope that he uses it for more than just chatting with people, maybe not necessarily during subathon, but there are games people can play in there right? maybe let neuro try to play those too?

[molten mica]

coldn't be me. I don't have nightmares

[opal flower]

Average NN going through many side quests at once with all these topics happening at once

[hasty juniper]

I want really one day to be able to lucid dream

[neon dust]

Ok you want me to shitpost? You want that?

[hasty juniper]

It is funny, but kinda against the meaning of dream tbh

[molten mica]

we have collective adhd

[terse night]

me too, but the brain will twist and distort reality in lucid dreams if it doesn't come from a place of truth

[rigid meteor]

A question for you though.
I miss your memes, can you post some more.

[opal flower]

The idea of dreaming scares me, what if one day we end up not being able to wake up, stuck in our own dream world with no way to open our eyes

[pliant wasp]

real, especially with how dreams can distort your sense of time

[hasty juniper]

After all, you can't really control dreams, after all they are made to face whatever your subconscious is bottling up

[lavish void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1339456761609982063/1360029649991761940/pearcat-melcord.gif

[hasty juniper]

You can't questionate if they are dreams or not, and suddenly you are back again into the back, redoing a cycle, until you finally wake up in your reality... or is it?

I rather do a nightmare than experience these dreams

because that type of dream, can turn into the most creepy nightmares ever

[lavish void]

whats up general network

[opal flower]

Whilst our real world body is in a coma-like state without actually being in a coma, just a state of endless sleep whilst we try to escape from our own dream, even if it's one we can't even control either

[misty compass]

what the fuck happened while i was gone

[woeful apex]

CHAAAAAT I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU

[opal flower]

[lavish void]

what do you mean this isnt general

[neon dust]

I'll try be more productive in the subathon

[rigid meteor]

fleshwretch drink a big glass of water before next alcohol

[woeful apex]

what

[rigid meteor]

I just had a feeling you might be too close to the bottom of the bottle

[hasty juniper]

Oh, does anyone want to get a little suggestion if you guys are stuck inside a dream?

[opal flower]

Close enough, you're in the asylum known as neurotic Neurons, the neurosama variant of general chatting

[hasty juniper]

It might be a little creepy...

But it works!

at least for me..

[chrome solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1309372183440527431/I_EFING_HATE_NN.gif

[terse night]

i think they're useful for figuring out what you truly want in life, but if there's too many things pressed into the subconscious everything starts to twist and distort i fear

[viral sun]

You have unlocked new role

[lavish void]

im not seeing a lot of neuro samam bthough

[obsidian light]

You have unlocked new role

[indigo stone]

Fuck off

[misty compass]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-3d-neuro-neuro-3d-shigy-wiggy-gif-9512814360319333489

[hasty juniper]

It becomes annoying a little, but helpful at the same time, by the way, do you want to gain a way to end a dream?

[misty compass]

embed fail.. nopw i leave

[viral sun]

You have unlocked new role

[opal flower]

Oh yeah? Well, Tatsu? You have NOT unlocked a new role, you fucking Clanker

... Sorry I had to let out some steam there

[indigo stone]

I wanted to see the shigy wiggle

[obsidian light]

You have unlocked new role

[woeful apex]

[obsidian light]

Now try it again

[misty compass]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-3d-neuro-neuro-3d-shigy-wiggy-gif-9512814360319333489

[indigo stone]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-3d-neuro-neuro-3d-shigy-wiggy-gif-9512814360319333489

[hasty juniper]

Anyway for whoever wants a tip to how escape dreams...

Just.. end them!

[indigo stone]

YEAH THE SHIGY

[hasty juniper]

:0

[terse night]

why would i? as long as its fun

[rigid meteor]

dan did you see this #neurotic-neurons message
I wil ltry to draw actually original Neuro art tomorrow for this and publish it in the repo.

[hasty juniper]

Nightmare speaking

[indigo stone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1439409167130427562/walkies.gif

[hasty juniper]

Or the ones that keep repeating and repeating

[pliant wasp]

how

[terse night]

my nightmares have started ending in death, i haven't had any in a couple weeks

[indigo stone]

Okay that's way cuter

[hasty juniper]

Just well.. ||jump||

[pliant wasp]

ah

[hasty juniper]

It might sound weird, but it works!

[pliant wasp]

no yeah i dont remember ever not waking up after dream death

[hasty juniper]

Or at least for me, I don't really know if it is creepy, but that actually makes sense

[indigo stone]

It's like midnight rn but I'll see what we can do tomorrow

[hasty juniper]

You can't really die in a dream, the shock makes you in fact wake up!

[opal flower]

That isn't a dream at this point, it's your brain trying to give you a premonition just like you're a protagonist in the hit horror movie series Final Destination

[hasty juniper]

So that makes you, awake!

It might be weird at first, but during dreams you can't really feel any pain at all

[misty compass]

i like my silly straw because i have to work so hard for some water i feel like a hampster with those ittle water things

[hasty juniper]

it mostly depends on the context of your dream tho..

[terse night]

true! but those seconds of nothingness.. not really super forgettable

[pliant wasp]

wouldn't that method require you to be aware of the fact that you're dreaming though

[hasty juniper]

For me it is just pitch black

[chrome solstice]

Anyone know how to deal with Cute Withdraws, I won't durvive until the 19th

[lavish void]

chat reflects the streamer ig

[hasty juniper]

Yes!

It is possible in fact!

[rigid meteor]

I played sameer earlier with the plugin on, we should play someday

[pliant wasp]

but in that case why not just enjoy the lucid dream

[opal flower]

You know you've had a good sleep when you wake up and see bruises on your arm or that your arm is a bit red from laying on it

[naive bronze]

GODDAMNIT VEDAL WHERE MY CLANKERS AAAAAAAT?!

[obsidian light]

Eeping

[misty compass]

vods and uhh shizoing and believing that the stream will start every 7pm

[chrome solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-where-is-she-nikkal-nikkalkundhal-nick-gif-18076474

[neon dust]

WOOOOOOOOOOW DUDE! language

[hasty juniper]

If your brain notices a pattern in the dreams (example keeping wake up in the same room over and over), then you will be aware!

Answering your question about lucid dreaming, it all depends on you!
Someone can be that freak out, and they decide to do that action.
Some of them can control the envinroment, but that makes you wake up fast if you cant handle that, and if you feel any type of anxiety, the dream might become a lucid nightmare.

[opal flower]

Some people can't lucid dream due to not having enough time and having to wake up early in the morning for an occurring event like school or work, as you said, time can be very confusing when you're in a dream, so what feels like one minute in a dream could be 3 hours in the real world

[naive bronze]

i cant take it anymore what sdo i do what do i do

[shut socket]

Man late night NN is something

[opal flower]

Exactly

[hasty juniper]

For me it is black, I don't feel pain, I don't feel really anything, just... some sort of peace? Like the surrounding is always all clean, organized, uncanny, nothing special, just freedom.

[rancid cypress]

I see NN got that therapy update too

[opal flower]

We've reached the roads

[hasty juniper]

But sometimes it makes me in the morning have small sleep paralysis

[obsidian light]

Its only 7pm

[hasty juniper]

which makes me wake up a little late, but not that much

like I can't wake up and my eyes are still close

so everything it is kinda blocked..

[opal flower]

It's almost 12am here, my sleep schedule is already fucked up as is so I guess I'll stay up a bit longer

[pliant wasp]

i cant imagine having to think about real life deadlines while literally asleep and dreaming

[split marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1449424340897497141/Neuro_Shiggy_Smoothed.gif

[terse night]

yeah i didn't feel any pain either, but it was my first vivid distinction of "nothingness"

[pliant wasp]

2am

[chrome solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1442846779526742127/Neuro_Shiggy.gif

[rancid cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1439357402641072469/ezgif-5c51250028eebca1.gif

[rigid meteor]

Deadlines are only problem if you're not genuinely working hard and you have bad boss.
The second one is hard to accomplish

[naive bronze]

fuckfuckfuck lemme wind down a bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3puQLs6bEY

[terse night]

"what it means to exist, and what it means to cease"

[hasty juniper]

But to be honest, if really theres nothing after dying, i'm good!

Better than whatever theory theres after life..

[terse night]

! same :3

[hasty juniper]

I don't really want to be a ghost,demon or angel

[pliant wasp]

whoops yeah i hoped my use of deadlines would include like time limits and events but maybe it didnt

[hasty juniper]

as long as I am in peace, im really sorry, but I prefer that!

[autumn timber]

h

[terse night]

but everyone has their own idea's of "peace" it gets messy

[neon dust]

peace is a rare thing in here, be the one who will bring that change

[pliant wasp]

this is going somewhere idk where but somewhere

[opal flower]

Nothing is never truly nothing in the end.

Emptiness is still considered it's own thing, so when theres... "nothing" there, "nothingness" is still considered something, so if I end up dreaming about being in the middle of nowhere, no stars, no planets, nothing... It'd still mean something to me

I'm confusing myself but that's fine

[chrome solstice]

wheres the 5 hour version

[rigid meteor]

eh, I only thought in mental space of working, I suppose they apply in other stuff too

[hasty juniper]

The only thing that it can explain what "nothingness" is.

What do you think does rocks feel?

Nothing.

[opal flower]

You don't know that

[hasty juniper]

Even if there are some people saying that they actually have a tiny bit of subjective experiences

[opal flower]

[hasty juniper]

Yeah

[neon dust]

@eternal crescent

[hasty juniper]

It can't be neither disproven or not

[neon dust]

how do you feel?

[boreal widget]

Yo NN. Ya'll should be useful and build this furniture for me

[hasty juniper]

so it is kinda messy

[rigid meteor]

Bocchi the Rock probably can verify

[neon dust]

for free? you must be crazy

[hasty juniper]

This is what I heard one time while someone was discussing that topic, I don't really know if I used that example correctly, tehee..

[terse night]

you can't exactly "prove" nothingness, but you can't exactly "disprove" it either

[hasty juniper]

For real

[hasty juniper]

And you can't even study it, because well.. it is nothing.

[split marlin]

good thing I’m deaf in my right ear

[hasty juniper]

You can't get informations about something that it is literally nothing, then it isn't nothing after all..

[opal flower]

Let me guess, you bought something from IKEA and the manual is misleading, making you feel confused on what to do next?

[terse night]

except inside, you can hold your own truth

[pliant wasp]

but you can study what it isn't

[sly kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/shiro-spawner-minecraft-spawner-spawner-neuro-sama-gif-27700230

[opal flower]

Late night NN chats go deeper than I thought, in the best way possible

[pliant wasp]

study?

[hasty juniper]

There are a lot of theories.

[split marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1385795953822273547/1386624508575744031/neur_1.gif

[boreal widget]

Damn there was meme with Neuro messing up some furniture but I don't know where it is

[opal flower]

Might as well start cracking the code of the ARG today whilst we're at it, going as far as successfully figuring it all out before anything new gets added onto the lore

[rigid meteor]

I want Neuro Pizza order bit during the subathon, I want Neuro design more products bit sometime soon too,
This break made me realize how funny nuerro samante vuedlinjo is

[chrome solstice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067638175478071307/1093635782918545468/2023-04-02_162740.gif

[naive bronze]

but that's actually neuro in the right ear, and evil in the left

[opal flower]

You sure you have your headphones on in the right direction?

[hasty juniper]

I like the one that it says that the one that feels (so the "subject that feels all the emotions and experiences") won't really die.
We know that the brain activity and the subjective experience ends with it.
But we can't really say to the one that feels.

We don't know if the one that feels, the "I" is only tied to the brain.
We don't really know how from a state of "something" it becomes "nothing"
Is there really a procedure? or there isn't?
How does something become nothing?

And we can't even say that the "I" is only the brain, because it is "wrong" technically, because you aren't only your brain.
You have emotions and experiences, and theres the whole qualia in it.
Which even if we study every single part of the brain, we will never know why something for us is different for others.

[opal flower]

That would be awkward

[hasty juniper]

That doesn't mean that theres afterlife, that only means that it will go against the physical boundaries.

But that's philosophy speaking!

We will never know.

[terse night]

and i think that's ok, as long as people are genuine to themselves

[hasty juniper]

I do believe that consciousness overall it is the most amazing thing that nature has ever created, or at least technically.

evolutionary speaking as well

[opal flower]

In conclusion: I've made up my mind that nothing is still something. The state of "nothingness" was able to be described in a way that it means something. You'd think nothing like before the big bang, apparently to it's theory, or whatnot, there was no space, no stars, no sky, not even darkness... Just complete.. Emptiness, but even then, we got few words to actually describe such phenomenon, which means surely, in the end, nothing holds some meaning to it, correct?

[pliant wasp]

from one perspective your brain is intrinsically linked to your physical body and your sensations and hormones and bodily whatnot make up a huge part of your conscious experience, so you couldn't have the same experience as a disembodied consciousness (a soul)

[hasty juniper]

Universally speaking, talking about physique.
Nothing has something always.
Or at least by our studies

What about us? What about when we die?
We don't really know overall.

So what you say is correct, but only tied about the universe itself

[pliant wasp]

like saying heaven would be eternal happiness for example is weird because happiness is controlled by physical things like hormones and electrical signals

[hasty juniper]

About human death? We don't really know if it works the same.

[white abyss]

if nothing has something then it isnt considered "nothing"

[hasty juniper]

I do believe that if religion people want to believe this as a way to cope, then I do believe that they could do it!

As long as they dont force anyone into it.

[tranquil jungle]

What

What is NN on about

[opal flower]

I could go on about this forever, these deep convos actually keep me engaged

[hasty juniper]

But in my opinion, I rather be in nothingness than being in hell or heaven.

[opal flower]

Ur mom

[terse night]

traditional science likes to believe that matter can't be created or destroyed, but antimatter annihilates upon contact, so where does it all come from yk?

[naive bronze]

giving Evil learning data

[tranquil jungle]

I thought y'all were supposed to be stupid

[supple kraken]

plot filler

[tranquil jungle]

SHOCKED

[pliant wasp]

might still be unfortunately

[opal flower]

I mean we aren't called the Neurotic Neurons for nothing, now, are we?

See, another use for "nothing"

[hasty juniper]

I do just want to believe that somehow our "I" isn't tied only by the brain, but that somehow and in someways we are a apart of something bigger.

[opal flower]

[white abyss]

its the rarely seen "neuron" part of the name

[hasty juniper]

For me, death it isn't the "end"

But it is a transition to something

or to nothing.

[terse night]

anything new

[neon dust]

yoooo spacerice my man, how's it going?

[pliant wasp]

like consciousness being the radio waves and the brain being the radio

[white abyss]

a transition into decaying matter and then eventually space dust!

[pliant wasp]

the radio can break but the waves are still there

[hasty juniper]

After all your atoms won't really die, they will trasform.
They will become something new.
After all, we are made (scientifcally speaking) from stars.
From the same beings that come from space.

[opal flower]

There's no proof of an afterlife but there's no proof that there isn't one, how could we possibly even get proof if we're already dead as fuck and can't even give account to it without us sounding like we tapped out on the best psychedelics or something?

[hasty juniper]

That's actually a philosophical idea.

[supple kraken]

good, how are you tartar?

[white abyss]

unless theyre sucked into a blackhole*
or annihilated into energy by anti-matter*
or turned into energy via fission or fusion*

there are many ways atoms die

[hasty juniper]

Basically we don't really know.
About the after life, if really something like that existed.
It would take an immensive amount of energy that something could actually exist.
And the universe itself, I do believe that it doesn't want to spend that much energy on that.

But, for me, if really something exists, I do want to see it.

[terse night]

it just feels like compression and decompression to me, the closer you are to what you feel, the "slower" everything feels, time is subjective

[naive bronze]

hold on, i ain't high enough for this chat

[worn wadi]

[supple kraken]

is that why this pre-subathon break feels like it's dragging on?

[runic vale]

I just watched a clip from Neurosoda and went to see what new clip they had, only to find out they dont have anything new for the next 3 months.

[worn wadi]

Anything interesting happened today?

[terse night]

one reaps, one sows

[tranquil jungle]

evilHypers

[hasty juniper]

(i am not saying that "Death" itself is cool, if you are struggling, remember to call for help ❤️ )

[runic vale]

Finding it hard to belive, I thought I saw new clips this week

[supple kraken]

i just realized we're only about halfway through the break

[opal flower]

Because your brain tricks time to go slower whenever you're excited for something, making the anticipation painful

That's one of the reasons fr

[worn wadi]

6 more days

[hasty juniper]

It was rather interessating to talk to you.
Thank you.

Anyway soon I might take some melatonin and go to sleep.

[supple kraken]

maybe i need to distract myself with more stuff then

[eternal oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1445441393689362545/1445441394700193793/spinEvlPadoru.gif

[opal flower]

Neurotic Neurons used our last braincells to discover modern philosophy and so we are wasting our remaining cells on being smort, that's for sure

[hasty juniper]

Neuro time!

[terse night]

personally, i feel most comfortable watching chaos unfold from the sidelines. good night sleep well

[boreal widget]

evilSoBased

[tranquil jungle]

🙏

[hasty juniper]

[pliant wasp]

good night chat

[hasty juniper]

gn!!

[pliant wasp]

not that im going to bed yet

[naive bronze]

calling it now, staz or crumbs gonna make a video about NN coping with the pre-subathon drought

[hasty juniper]

Me too, in some minutes I might tho.

[opal flower]

We definitely need to have more deep conversations in the future, enough to confuse the others

[rigid meteor]

i made this once, time to repost

[opal flower]

[tranquil jungle]

I am going insane.

[knotty dew]

turtle defenition

hello NN!

[opal flower]

"Neurotic Neurons taking Philosophy classes (Real?!) (Not clickbait?!)"

[terse night]

in the eye of the hurricane there is quiet. its comfortable, i don't understand why people like to impose their own ideals onto others

[white abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/nostalgia-critic-drink-drinking-need-a-drink-jagermeister-gif-13825280

im gonna cope with no neuro content the only way I know how: copious amounts of alcohol

[opal flower]

...

Is that a fucking Hamilton reference-

Nah, I'm just brainrotted

[terse night]

yeah, why

[pliant wasp]

some religions genuinely make people think they need to convert others or they'll have a worse fate afaik

[opal flower]

Hamilton mention

[woeful apex]

[terse night]

all it does is inflict fear for no purpose

i don't get it

[earnest bobcat]

NN hunger games

[worn wadi]

how much lice

[boreal widget]

Lin Manuel Vedal

[woeful apex]

[boreal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-fast-eating-eat-gif-25232258

[opal flower]

That's it I need a neuro Burn cover one of these days on one of the karaoke streams

[worn wadi]

Fat fuck

[boreal widget]

You lookin real edible rn

[woeful apex]

[tranquil jungle]

Neuro can you give me Evil content

[opal flower]

Might as well try to get the minecraft "how did we get here?" advancement whilst I wait for the Subathon

[worn wadi]

[eternal oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324872678791975004/1391254768478851072/EvilIsSoCuteAll.gif

[tranquil jungle]

Time to make a contraption

Man I Love Evil

[terse night]

if someone's comfortable, and happy in their own living environment, some coping methods are "healthier" than others, but who's someone to say that's wrong? are people not allowed to play within their own limits?

[tranquil jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1357056020022825244/evil-genuine_evil_being.gif

[terse night]

their own boundaries

[fallen stump]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1320476721857691648/youve_made_a_fool_of_yourself_meow_meow.gif

[terse night]

of their truth

[tranquil jungle]

[chrome solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1304224257538134016/2023-04-02_162740.gif

[opal flower]

[white abyss]

whats happening

[knotty dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1449556758157594634/EvilWeek.webp?ex=693f546e&is=693e02ee&hm=a9bd970d850587a95138d38897790bfc04fc75229a6458efe93715b440873900&

[fallen stump]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1356722566424821930/yourmomneuro.gif

[void drift]

i am a lawful citizen

[terse night]

i think life is beautiful
i think death is beautiful
i wish more people worried about enjoying themselves
without feeling the pressure to push past their own limits

[golden sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1354895617792671885/huh-eliv.gif

[naive bronze]

If you think about a drop of water causing a ripple in a body of water
It conveys the illusion of causality
The ripples drift gently upon the nescient aether
From nothing, to something
One that transcends what can be considered natural

If such is the case for being
I wholeheartedly reject it

Something
Somewhere
Somehow

Caused this
LACK OF NEURO AND EVIL THIS WEEK

This emptiness that haunts me
Deliver me, oh SACRED MACHINE SPIRITS

[knotty dew]

my mother?

[white abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1311094009954832455/ezgif.com-speed.gif

[eternal oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359530258344185876/1388847631408566403/TakeMeEvil.gif

[knotty dew]

vedal ripped in pieces

[rigid meteor]

If you think about a drop of water causing a ripple in a body of water
You can recreate that with ease with gimp wave animation option.

[white abyss]

vedal smoothie

[terse night]

but in the end
the moth will get eaten by the bird
the rat will get eaten by the cat
the fish, the shark.

[opal flower]

cue the evil and Neuro catwalk gif where they leave a building that has a sign saying "your mother" on top of it

[terse night]

and i think that's cool

[fallen stump]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1354533221504913549/NUH-UH-new-neuro.gif

[opal flower]

Idk I don't fucking have it saved

[worn wadi]

[terse night]

everything that has happened, will happen again

[eternal oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1431742990820446279/copy_60126350-D643-4972-ACBD-8AC6AEE589B0.gif

[terse night]

everything that has come undone, can be undone

[worn wadi]

neuro will get banned a second time

[opal flower]

You have alerted the

[hasty juniper]

Sorry I accidentally missclicked

[boreal widget]

boa

[terse night]

its oke </3

[void drift]

i saw

[golden sundial]

That is

[opal flower]

cue clip of Newero being quiet at the start of a stream until a sudden poll that says 'Bomb The UK?' appears out of nowhere

[naive bronze]

There are no accidents
From nothing, something arises
Such is the emptiness of being
A being that some accept
And I reject

[knotty dew]

bao and neuro fire

[hasty juniper]

That is such good poetry :0

[opal flower]

I mean, it's accurate, alright

[boreal widget]

Why Neuro look so distraught

[rigid meteor]

she saw your face

[opal flower]

She's mesmerised

[tranquil jungle]

She has to sing with Bao mug

[split marlin]

chat

[woeful apex]

https://imgur.com/a/uMaxee1

[boreal widget]

Or lack thereof

[split marlin]

stop being dumb

[stuck reef]

here, have this one where she look more happy

[tranquil jungle]

Dabis

[opal flower]

Perfect time for me to send this ig

[knotty dew]

i like mesmerizer then those girls added a layer into it 🔥 🔥

[terse night]

the moon will rise
the sun will set
the moon will blot out the sun
what does it all mean?
what doesn't it

[split marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447676388491395214/1447676389720461564/Neuro_Lonely_Dance.gif

davis

with v

[tranquil jungle]

Bis

With a B

[rigid meteor]

taking a closer look, I too am unable to see a face here

[opal flower]

I mean no wonder there's a fucking dent

[knotty dew]

I DId NoT NOTICE THAT LMFAO

[pliant wasp]

meaning is a social construct

[split marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/838175096999903242/1407905827708473524/evils-head-explodes-and-she-fucking-dies.gif

deserved

[rancid ermine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1446152496857878620/padoru-padoru.gif

[terse night]

and so it can be deconstructed

[boreal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/mashle-anime-faceless-no-face-hoodie-gif-6040022013564882843

[split marlin]

hi plytha

[rancid ermine]

hi davis

[split marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1448523236341190686/neurocutejumpmp4.gif

[knotty dew]

evil tornado

would call her cute on subathon 🙂

[chrome solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1440389943154315305/neuro_sama_christmas_i_cannot_contain_the_merriness.gif

[rancid ermine]

I miss and

[knotty dew]

its TIMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[split marlin]

she won't be there

[tranquil jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1409965483209527318/ezgif-397a7c64357125.gif

[knotty dew]

shes a mod 🙂

[terse night]

i think the most beautiful thing is concept itself
the universe will expand, and eventually it will constrict

[knotty dew]

i think

[opal flower]

You'll also notice "Tutle" and "NeuraseratinNeurocar987" in the MV too. Same with Filtered

[naive bronze]

The ebb and flow on unenlightened minds
Transcend that which is implicit
Blessed are those who go beyond the sacred glass
Beyond whose understanding, the wise envy

okay enough dumbness from me

[boreal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-bro-how-bro-felt-gif-8015564281503585223

[terse night]

and thus, everything goes on
all those worries, and sleepless nights
all they do is slow down your perception

[rigid meteor]

Is my moderator application accepted?

[terse night]

your joy

[split marlin]

useless mod, never spoke here

[terse night]

your life

[rancid ermine]

how dare you

[knotty dew]

welp thats a mystery about that NeuraseratinNeurocar987

maybe thats a twitch user

[opal flower]

I wanna see more Neuro/Evil covers with other Vtubers tbh

[split marlin]

good

now you are a good mod

[worn wadi]

Me when you when me me when they when me you they when when when

[knotty dew]

D:

[woeful apex]

me

[rancid ermine]

you

[terse night]

there's all these terms thrown around to make people feel like less then themselves
why

[opal flower]

Don't ask me

[obsidian light]

:mhm:

[vagrant kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1439744591837266041/autismu.gif

[woeful apex]

r mom

[rancid ermine]

[split marlin]

fleshy

[frozen heron]

Hi nn

[split marlin]

hi you

[knotty dew]

THE NEURO-CAR 📣 📣 📣 📣

[terse night]

i would rather tear myself apart
over and over
but death is too selfish

[rancid ermine]

hi @inland swan

[worn wadi]

Kyoto

[frozen heron]

Heya

[molten mica]

Plytha

[boreal widget]

YO Caleb

[rancid ermine]

niac

[opal flower]

I love how the car image is literally facing Bao

[tranquil jungle]

Plythagoras

[knotty dew]

[iron tundra]

[golden sundial]

hi bhat

chat

[naive bronze]

bhat

[molten mica]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1320476721857691648/youve_made_a_fool_of_yourself_meow_meow.gif

[frozen heron]

Meow meow

[split marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1405664649961275592/neurocar_vedal.gif

[rancid ermine]

syk