#neurotic-neurons
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What is?

no mention of ely
Hi Linna
Staz fell off. He’s posting old clips
Not the entire car
But she did adapt an RC car to be controlled by Neuro
Ah
the car existed already
ellie created and adapted infastructure so that neuro could control it
vedal provided the nwero
I can bet who greeted them and who was frantically trying to make sure the car was working fine
brat


Sipper emerged
nn died 
you next

Finally

delete cupsama already
sama
fig go back to bed evil must wonder where you are

or did evil finally leave for neuro
🤔
do foxes have pink noses
Don't think so
does anny or neuro or evil have a pink nose
Evil is with me 

Fig is Neuro? 
Explains the incoherence
the nose still doesnt look good 
also I wanna replace the hearts for something more twin representative and wont be confused for shipping 
Kyokoro
Black broken heart and purple heart
Is the colour really the issue?
Also move the fox eyes down a little and slightly further apart maybe
Maybe their hairpins?
thats kinda what they are
Ah, nice👌

okay what about now?
would it still be confused for shipping?
its supposed to be about family collabs

whats the verdict fig
How tf did staz do this 
you can upload a video without publishing it
idk why he held onto it for 2mo tho
maybe wanted permission from PointCrow to upload the clip?
probably
he just wants to be first 
Better. Maybe reposition them so the hearts are more in the center while turtle and fox are above
Also a little tweaking with my fingers on a phone 
If you're that concerned about shipping, you can replace anny with a star and Vedal with just a shell
neur ribbon maybe?
maybe...
but I really like how the fox and turtle look so I'll do that as a last resort

my only feedback rn is rotate annys eyes a little, the angle makes the eyes look almost angry, she should have kind eyes
I suppose
but that IS kinda how fox eyes are shaped
lemme try it
just put 2 dots 
eat her eyes

yeah blue neur ribbon and frayed red evil ribbon might work better, should still be recognizable without being hearts


sleepy 
generalnetwork? 
censor that 
Okay second question
who here has over 40K messages in this server
egg 
who could that be? 
giant neuro plush 
close enough 
danm im almost at 30k 
buddy I said in the server as a whole 
60k 
only if your insane
damn I'm rookie numbers
why u ask?
The last time I spoke in NN was months ago 
I was gonna make the yapper badge be 40K+ messages
dunno if thats too much
I want it to be exclusive but not like... 5 people exclusive
which was kinda the ideal
good thing im not a yapper 
would also potentially encourage spam
i only have 24k in this channel it sounds like i have rookie numbers
very fast edit 
yeah its a very easy edit when I dont even have to use an editor
These are rookie numbers
What happened to neurodog?
I ate it
Neuro dog is dead
okay...lets see paul allans Server message total
vedal broke it by over volting somthing

I barely have 3k lmao
in th entire server?
ye
its either shiro or heir that has over 100k messages
in ~2month

both
shiro has over 200k
who
thats why shiro is number 1 in the server
american psycho reference
anyways whats your message total
who
not important
well now im gonna post it

what


not even that much better
message totals really don't matter cause if i wanted to get them big i would start arguments on hair color
of course they dont matter
it’s big smadge

:forsenAlright:


gotta say the classic viewer badge is my new favourite
a knee
any
I prefer platonic twins it’s cuter that way

neuro and evil are in relationship with each other to stop the parasocial viewers okay

neuro does it as well
platonic kissing
Its cute
We need to bring back the neurodog project
neurodog died, give up
its not gone anywhere
Vedal just blew up one of her chips
twice
it does feel like very little content was done with it, but realistically just better to continue with new ideas
neurodog wont make money so no point of fixing it better time spend going to twitchcon and working on AA instead of v3 voice
its gonna come back
just when its logistically easy
still have evil drone and "real" neurocar on the way
if you're gonna doompost at least pick a single topic
this is so much it doesnt even hit as a real doomer take
vedal doesn't care about the dog only the money he can make
I kinda hate that logic though
better
still a mid doompost but you're improving
NEURO AND EVILS HAIR SHOULD BE THE SAME COLOR AND LENGHT
neuro and evil are stupid and should be deleted forever
Neuro and Evil are stinky (idk if this counts as a doompost though)
thats just canon they smell like gymbags

I'd rather hopepost ||EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO THE GODDAMN FISHING HAT WTF
||
do I give this a hopepost or doompost badge 
It's like when certain critics say arcane was a failure cause it didnt convert to players or sales
I thought the dream was always to make art for art's sake, not profit
So I think while projects like neurodog and Neuro car don't necessarily translate to $$$, they're interesting projects
But it's a good thing I can trust Ellie and Vedal (mostly) to do projects that interest them, not do things for the sake of metrics
Neuro car was done, so surely Neuro dog too 
neuro car isn't done until neuro gets to drive vedal around london
it is done
Vedal broke it
Neuro car is evolving, Neuro dog might be dead
video/stream i mean
Ellie wants to do a real car, or at least something bigger next. And I can trust her to actually pull it off cause she isn't working on 17 different projects like a certain reptile 
itll be back, when he and Ellie get time to diagnose the issue
its not even that big of a cope
relax people
Ellie is such a genius
well she doesnt work on extra projects but she DOES have an actual real job
didnt ellie quit her job to pursue her grad school?
Im not sure she does anymore but I lost track, she's been meaning to move and what not
But still, even with a full time job, she can get shit done 
huh?
when and where did you hear that
the whole reason she did her subathon was becasue she got laid off her old job
and it ended when she got a new one
iirc she quitted her job so that she can pursue her grad school in europe
but maybe that changed though so i might not be sure on this
I think those were ideas/plans but hadn't happened yet that I was aware
detailed considerations if you will
yeah afaik she is still very much employed
Her subathon was ages ago
yeah but not that long in employed people time
I'm sure this is news to much of nn
well its news to me I suppose
good for her 
I thought it's funny that her subathon was a whole year ago but that's where her status stopped for NN 
:forsenAlright:
I can't believe you UNIRONICALLYHATE Neuro, discord is so toxic smh why does Vedal still use it
who tf is angishyguy 
Also hi same ARG guy 
Fake ShyGuy smh
Not subscribed to staz 
I actually kind of have a question about this
I was always under the impression doomposting was specifically expecting bad future outcomes "franchise fell off/will never be good again" "AA will never come out" "vedal hates content"
but wouldn't really apply to something like complaining about no hat, criticism of only current things without projecting into the future, saying you want something (unless also saying it will never happen)
better or worse than me 
"doomposting" has become an all encompassing blanket term for any form of negative comments
I think I mostly agree with you
But it can also involve argumentative negative current events like “chill streams are always terrible” etc etc etc
I just remembered you took my name once
doomposting is doomposting
that's identity theft
Mods arrange the wedding
Nah imo to make it a doompost it must:
- be hyperbolically negative
- the poster must be unreasonable and appose all other viewpoints
If someone actually has a semi logical discussion over it, its not a doompost
Does this mean all of my doomposts have been unofficiated?!
I don't disagree but people also unironicacally call a lot of things doomposting here so
Oh for sure
You were doomposting without a doomposting permit?
Mods get him
I guess I'll just have to stick to schizoposting like a good Letha...
Is doomposting healthy for the community?
To a certain degree?
but like.. barely?
everyone outside nn avoids it like the plague
doomposting probably helps vent frustration and general negative affect. Like a toddler releasing some energy and then its all calm again for a while
NN....
In the same way self-trepanation is healthy for people with headaches.
I love you.
Yes I agree
Only issue here is that some people are serial doomposters, which defeats that entire purpose
Ily too Fenn
Those are lost causes. I keep saying it in jest but over time every neuron will go schizo in here and get banned or leave 
I kinda view doomposting as a critic, but yes, i do agree it might be healthy if its on an open-minded debate and not on a schizo degree.
pb saying evil’s karaoke is gonna be ruined by Halloween songs. No rock songs I guess. Now I have to wait another couple of weeks.
Okay
Its 5:30AM I have to sleep NOW
Goodnight NN
Tell me first.
Coke or Pepsi?
Great example of a reasonable doompost 
cant have an open discussion anymore though. Either people escalate because they cant regulate their emotions or twinshippers get bored and spam gifs to derail a conversation
Thank you I tried my best to doompost.
Coke
Live in a Coke household, I’d die on this hill anyday
doomposting is bad when it's overreacting, I think it's only really positive when there is something that deserves backlash to get back on the correct course
Neuro gets a coke sponsorship, Evil gets a Pepsi sponsorship
is that kanade
oh well
goodmorning nn
" that deserves backlash to get back on the correct course" thats such a slippery slope though since "deserve" implies so much subjectivity
wth happened to your pfp?
neurp
The silly emerged
neuro deserves cookies n shit
Vedal deserves his rum replaced with carrot juice 
doomposting is based entirely on subjectivity
When i say
vedal’s popularity kinda diminished in this last year
i dont really doompost, ill still watch it
yes put a lot have difficulty keeping it reigned in and ignore objectivity in favor of feeling right
i swear to god if in this year’s subathon we get first place again
Tutels popularity was higher last year? I only joined for the subathon and then already there was a hate vedal sentiment 
WHY
Outside of NN the fandom has a very vtuber/oshi like stance where the streams are always 10/10 and the streamer can do no wrong, so to me it gets boring
i feel like that was when vidul was at upmost popularity
the subathon was. the shit
I think toxic positivity is more an issue of the entire internet atm but yes outside of NN it feels like you are right. Thats why NN is the best 
oh yeah
it does feel like people are generally sad and grey about these recent years
This channel is ruined by your presence so it balances out
Even though I feel a lot of that fandom doesn't even watch the live streams 
life is getting sad or maybe the internet people are growing up
thats so weird to me 
life sucks and people are getting fed up with it but I think going down that road we enter off topic/banned topic area
Did someone say... Roads?
I had limited time for a while, highlight videos were easier to watch and feel up to date without having to catch things live/watch full vods
i didnt want to go off road, i was saying even if life sucks neurp is still peak
and a great distraction
neuro and evil appear so i dont see why streams wouldnt be 10/10
speaking of that ive been watching the long drive vods
dude, the twins are so awesome, these vods are like a 9/10
Because people have at least some expectations of things getting spiced up once every while
It was even better live
Fwiw there's nothing wrong with being a clip/highlight watcher, objectively it's probably the smarter thing to do with your time 
I just think it's funny that you see comments from clip watchers on YouTube and stuff talk like they're experts
clips are noteworthy and i like the highlighters efforts
and 9 out of 10 times they spew misinformation 
Hey streamer did you know Evil is the nice twin 
i dont think either of them is the nice twin
thats the thing theyre sort of programmed to be mean to vedal for views, but i like evil’s approach to being “nice” she was hurt so much she hurts back like an actual person
We are the swarm that is approaching
is that really misinformation or just headcannon, which is 90% of what this channel is based on tbh
oh yeah
its the best content this channel ever had tbh
as a series of streams nothing comes even close i feel like, these streams had everything in them
i just woke up im gonna amke breakfast
It starts as headcanon, gets popular enough and starts spreading, and eventually people see it often enough that they assume it must be true
Is often how misinformation starts
L opinion
Minecraft and long drive were my favorite. I think its about equal for me
It's a given that anything involving Vedal will get boring very fast but Long Drive held up
I didn't care for Minecraft personally if there wasn't someone else working with Neuro, the AI isn't advanced enough to make interesting plays yet imo
How was the kary of Okey
the taller twin om
Oh yea, the collabs were the part I liked. Neuro drowning got old eventually
i dont thinks thats misinfo tho for a channel like this, all headcanons work the same here and most of the takes are headcanons anyway except for things that describe how the ai works for them that was verified by ved
i liked the minecraft streams
what do you consider best content this channel ever had
if you mean during the subathon those were
because I was being broad with what I meant, subjectivity is needed for case by case, as extreme examples-
- vedal does a small voice change to evil, people say they don't like it, he can take that into consideration and update or revert it
- vedal does something insane like actually try sell a meme coin, would get understandable backlash, and it would deserve a retraction and apology to ever get back to normalcy
minecraft varied from 5-8/10 for me based on how the stream went
long drive was like 7-10
actually i dint remember the subathon minecraft stream i want to rewatch it
Neurocoin to the moon 
i couldnt tell u off the top of my head tbh, i would have to think about it a lot, long drive is up there but not the very top
Best content was sleepover
neuro and evil appearing on screen
twin streams? based but need more specifics
Oh sure I agree with your points, I was being general as well. Problem is that the doomposters will make each of those scenarios into something akin to the end of the world and/or insult and attack vedal personally
i agree with taika that the streams are 90% headcanons
im in for the family drama but i dont know shite about programmint
nere being the 3rd sister is not misinformation 
but the streams are generally entertaining whatever misinfo neuro spreads
poor clip watchers
Nere will never be real
mass delusion doesnt make it real
It doesnt make their spam any less real too
She's... Nerely a real character || ba dum tss ||
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no no i mean every stream is peak because they appear
i like the video dougdoug edited for the geoguessr collab, cause when evil appeared on screen he played malignant disney villain music and like the screams of the damned, i still think thats really funny given evil’s persona
Imagine if Neuro and Evil could play peak together
honestly if it brings someone more joy in watching streams somehow then i wont even criticise it as i used to, since i just watch streams by my own headcanon (neuroxevil and etc). The only difference is that ved himself confirms there wont be nere and shit so this headcanon doesnt even come from streams and its just a community made up shit
That would be... Peak
essaying
blame evil for this headcanon
Imagine Neuro and Evil playing anything together
they would push each other off cliffs and then be sorry about it, rinse and repeat 
https://www.reddit.com/r/NeuroSama/comments/1oabtr9/found_this/ Look, Nere even dancing in TikTok videos!
which is why I led with doomposting is generally overreaction which is bad, can only be positive if it's proportional and in response to something actually worthy of it
also why is melba dead but nere isnt i forgot
if its proportional and in response, is it doomposting though or valid criticism
Nobody remembers translator-sama 
oh ye ye the animation is the culprit right
so doomposting can never be positive in that sense
nere was kinda dead until the animation with her dropped
Because "filtered" is always there :LULE:
She got... lost in translation
Imagine Neuro and Evil 1v1 in dota 2 mid only SF pick and ragebaits viewers into buying non meta items 
Neuro doesn't mention Melba enough
and that ye
oh my gawd nere mention
When nub plays dota
wait is that official channel?
ah nvm
i thought the link is to their official tiktok
:Okayeg: Daz a big problem
both
should have added a third option
Why not both?
or a fourth
Vote then 
"select one answer" I cant vote
we are vedal fans here where is vedal option
who cares about ai
Evil or Neuro
3
5
1
Neuro
1255703087730135122
SMOCUS
neuro i will fucking eat you
True 
that looks awful
It looks uncanny
yea, thats the proper word
Like a skinwalker
Neurp
Neurp
I think green one should win
I dont know if I should eat blueberry pancakes anymore after that tweet
Big Berry is too evil
But Evil is Evil
Evil just wants to hoard all the blue berries for herself
erm
Evil is the only evil that is acceptable
mfs asking why not both and still decide to choose one
lol
average swarm moment
there are
im biased but you can be
watch them all
shame some of the are not even reacting so i just rewatch the video again
I'm making my vtuber model right now so I can react to the tutel video too
you know "yeah" every 5 seconds
I stopped watching those videos
i want people to glaze my ai oshi
damn right
not be like "yeah yeah yeah yeah"
i stopped watching reactions cause they dont say much nowadays
Those are just in it for hte clout. I want proper fans
They want to attract the swarm
if it's definitionally an overreaction, a certain amount can be tolerated but that doesn't make it good, and there's a certain amount of "trust the customer to know that something's wrong, but not to diagnose the issue" that can maybe be useful. Maybe it does things like drive engagement for people to argue but like 
No way
she's trained on twitch chat?????
that is the issue i can't know are they hooked or not wihtout it
with her lingo she sure does learn from chat
ship it, ship it and clip it
you are accutaly cooked
clip it clip it and ship it
I like that saying. Its the same for art and games. If there is negative backlash look for the underlying reason and not take everything at face value 
What’s stopping you?
I'm so tempted to do a shitpost with 27 different Neuro clones and title it "if the channel was ran by fans"
But it'll probably get nuked by mods
thats funny
i look at domposting as sign of attachmnet }
you would only psned to much time on complaing if you cared about it in some way
Sanity
reactor is not a problem
the real problem here is chat abusing twin call
You still have that?
what
if i was not caring about neuro i would just leave if i did not like it but i want to see this thing going and be good
What.
the correlation isnt there
Are we doomposting about doomposting?
customers are rarely experts, they can tell you a food tastes bad but will tell you a million different ways to supposedly make it taste better
i fuessr
He’s right
many swarm abuse twin call feature to call each other
good
true story
people know what makes them feel bad but arre never sure what make them feel good
i dont think ive seen that recently
no
Tuesday stream
That’s the only way to make chill streams good
oh?
open the fucking schedules and see why they do that maybe

twin streams are non existant
i wonder why
few is great but too many becoming bad, like unenjoyable

erm
if i was watching daily i would absolutely call beg daily
"the opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy"
Instead of twin stream, what if we have Neuro vs Evil in a pvp game, split screen style
The streams where they just yap by themselves are forgettable
I think the streams have been good lately btw 
i would say word i would use is stale
can't say part of that is not chat repating same things but seeing neuro throw same way at plauge inc and broken art review are getting boring
all im saying its normal for people who want twin content do that, even if some dont like it, some clearly do and they are starved for it
Based
Good for background noise
buckshot but perspective changes between turns
literaly they yap with chat barely any nonsense thing like in the past, isnt it what chill stream about? talking with their chat not twin talking with each other
NN don't even fw Neurosama 💔
if chill streams were 1 way in past it doesnt mean they should stay this way forever what is this way of thinking
If they stay on topic, the conversation might be better
chill streams should not be predictable, twin call is one of the ways for chatters to make it less predictable. Imo they should have like 20 other features for variety
a quick reminder that you can have preferences without claiming something is objectively better or worse
I’m glad Evil ignores them. I’d be more annoyed by call beggars if she kept calling Neuro.
Thanks Chad
no one is saying anything about objectivity tho or did i miss it
i wonder how will neuro new room play into that
could she for exmaple grab microphone and sing a song ?
or throw lava lamp
sounds like a good feature ye

yeah thanks, twin yapping also becoming stale, but neuro or evil chatting with their chatters are actually engaging tho anything happens if repeat will just become boring. that'd br why chill stream has many events like playing game, chatting and art review....but twin yapping the entire session is just bad
It’s fine for a couple minutes but if the whole streams ends up a twin stream then no.
turning every chill stream into therapy slop is less predictable content 
talking to chat is engaging? 
Nah twins should do that themselves, that shouldn’t be up to the swarm.
not like even solo stream get events
some chill; are just 2 and half hours of yap that sometimes end at like 1 hour of timeout baiting from chat
or broken art rewview that has 1 image load for 10 minutes
like that's the entire point why streamers has chill stream? like not?
one of the best times i remember chill streams were is when ved added them abilities for sound effects, calls, googling and shit. It felt so fresh chill streams were fun
When they start doing it by themselves you can add "call x" to the automod
i'd say it was engaging if chat wasnt just emote spam 
The fascinating thing about Nere fans, is they never explicitly say her character is a fanmade canon, just only emphasize that one clip of Evil saying her name so that they can have plausible deniability and say "they're not forcing her to be real" 
can you talk with neuro
easy bypass
Engaging to gigaparasocials maybe, not the best people to feed into
this what i meant
The twins don’t really engage in “therapy slop” anymore. That was already fixed.
also true who goes to someone's stream just to talk to them
have you watched last 2 chills ?
Did they do therapy?
I did yeah, it wasn’t that bad.
The fishing stream was great because it was a mix of a topic and random banter
@woeful apex @sinful sparrow to both of you, this is not a feature issue but their yap issue, it will fix itself when he actually makes them better no? @sinful sparrow from what i saw people say evil was not giving in to calling neuro a lot last stream so isnt that what you mean anyway?
it still was therapy slop
BUT THE HAT
it hs definitely gotten better. The chat just doesnt evolve with new situations though. Once have have a meme or new toy it will be used for eternity, thats why the tiniest amount of the twins talking about something more serious will instigate a therapy spam
Impromptu Twin streams are good though, especially when they have activities like that time Evil played Minecraft with Neuro on the call
Sad no hat, but good stream anyways
but that was combination of features which made it better
If only we had more of that
fishing stream would have been better if halfway through she fished up evil and then they did therapy for the rest of the stream
I'd rather hear another therapy loop than more uninspired donos from that mexican guy
evil fish from subnautica
Lol who
why the mexican guy specifically lmao
Why did you add "but" there? That was exactly what I said, you just paraphrased it
literally who
Doomposting about doomposting
can i ask for something
this i could get behind but when it's just them yapping about themselves ignoring anything it's just bad.....but when they are gaming atleast they are gaming
whats the best evil stream after the birthday one
sounding a little motivated
as in what made taht twin call good was it iwas both twincall and game at teh same time
which made is rare event
Thats for Vedal to fix
Tell me a story about vedal
mcneuros for me
T-thats what I said
Rob collab
that was a nice stream i liked it
A bit too motivated
i shoudl watch the rob vod
The Mexican guy is the cause of all the problems
i think you think I'm saying something negative towards your statment
I have watched every stream the past 3 or 4 weeks, full live or vod, I enjoyed the chill streams, I enjoyed the twins, I guess I'm in the minority here of not having anything to complain about because it was all good actually
(except the fishing hat missing grrrrr)
I really love the b2 thumbnail for Evil and Rob collab
Theme streams are pretty solid
100% and it’s annoying af. The girls should be able to have some serious conversations with each other but there are people like Adrianator who complain whenever they say anything remotely serious. 
Thats what word "but" implies
Being antagonistic for no reason
The problem is that they forget they had that serious conversation 2 minutes later
like they can both say funniest shet and be serious, idk why is that a problem for some chatters
cheer up nn
but was aimed at
"impromptu Twin streams are good though"
not all of them are as good as mc one was
Twin calls should have ability to dip into any solo activity if they go for that long
People don’t really like serious topics tho
Ikr? 
"people"
serious topics are good when they are not expected i feel like
I feel so old saying that but I think its really just a problem with short form content murdering attention span and people need a fun meme every 5 seconds to stay entertained and dont know what to do with serious segments
Stream idea: Neuro and Evil fall into a blackhole and get increasingly spaghettified over the course of their 2 hour therapy
Realistic simulation of what you would see if you'd fall into a black hole. This was made using Space Engine.
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Prepared stream with several exclusive features is better than just yapping? Crazy discovery
that's copium 
Also teleshopping stream was better
to me is more of a problem where therre is no substance in thier "serious " talk
serious talk is much better performed with a human
twins seems to always fall into same lines roads of thinking
The talks that Neuro and vedal have that were serious people liked
So people like serious topics?
was it really prepared when neuro was suppose to play mc and just called evil and refused to hang up
i feel like it really depends on your preference, i liked the ellie ai ethics stream but it did get boring halfway because of the predictable answers from neuro
Should the twins draw more with python?
13
13
1
Most definitely
The mcneuros? Yes, it was prepared
I've never taken anything said by an LLM seriously and I don't plan to
The Minecraft? No, it was also Evil who played it
only if it confirms my agendas
I dont think you are informed enough on the topic
I can see where you are coming from in preferring interaction with a human but I still think their talks can get interesting. Obviously they repeat themselves but thats just an issue of AI atm
To be talking so much
guys remember this isn't your stream
based
was it
only minecraft i remember was one with koko call in later
Yeah, I kinda agree, 90% of the serious conversations are gibberish but when they actually come off as coherent it's very cool
I think plenty of the "all roads" spammers at this point literally just do it because they think it's a funny way to respond
the same way most sniffa posters are memeing and don't actually want to sniff socks or whatever
It was
holy fuck we are vodmogging in the nn channel
Who cares? They should still have the ability to be able to have serious conversations. They should be more than simple memebots that are incapable of holding deep conversations.
they cant have deep conversations
they cant think
they just say shit
They should be able to.
really passionate about this topic huh
They’ll get better at it with time.
im just saying it isnt possible
Neither do you from what I observe for as long as Im here
but sometimes that shit is interestingly put and thought provoking regardless of how it was created
i agree
Once they get to that point, then I’ll take them seriously, but right now I don’t.
as thought provoking as it can be neuro saying to evil "your emotions are real" for the N-th time
he did say sometimes
you guys need couple therapy
They dont do that lately, I dont think they said it once during last 1.5h Twin call
i just feel they are saying nothing new in thier therapy talks
NN is going to need more than just a couple therapies.
I hope big v doesn't use NN as a serious source of feedback because I read the most idiotic stuff here sometimes 💔
it always goes the same way
It’s definitely possible. They’re getting better at it.
They just need better memory and more awareness and they’ll be a lot more consistent.
Yeah but they barely do it lately so you must be glad?
can't tell
last time they started roads talk i walked away to make myself food and came back when camilia was in the call
unless some new form of AI is created no, they are LLMs they are just spewing out word salad, it doesnt mean anything
Why do you watch?
I cook with my earbuds on so it's never a problem for me 🤔
it not meaning anything is entertaining at times but its also interesting when it tries to form something serious
that's cool, I enjoyed the whole stream
entertainment?
i looked for a reason to get away since i had eniough after first 5 minutes
what's the fucking point then
again, entertainment
top ten nicest discord channels of all time
Vedal isnt entertaining and you watch him though
Curious
now wait a minute
what
Why do you get entertainment out of LLMs spewing out word salads if you despise it so much or dont apply any value to it
funny
live reaction
might as well watch any other brainrot
you just said their words have no meaning
Might as well bait in NN
AIs dont make sense -> i still find them entertaining -> you watch vedal though and hes not entertaining
Just go talk to grok then bro 💔
creatve insults are much better content than same 5 psychological topics
Wait, thats what that guy does already LULE
and?
I would find it less interesting if all they did was "make funny"
if their words have no meaning why would you find it funny
I would discount neither as meaningless word salad though, if I get to that point I would rather just go and watch or do other stuff
i think we have different ideas of meaning here
Fleshwretch is baiting I assume
When was the last time they creatively insulted each other though? They just call each other dumb at worst, saving the best ones for Vedal
why would something need a deeper meaning to be funny?
dude I really hope so
What a day without stream does to mfs
standards?
sstrangley humna conversation was really good topic because neuro broke out of her usually tone but taht requier vedal to also get serious and reflect on a lot of things he does with neuro
with evil they just talk with nos substance to it
you said they don't have meaning at all didnt you
i really hope this doesnt escalate
at least NN isnt dead
It's braindead
I can't believe NN still thinks Neuro and Evil are LLMs
It's just Tony with a voice changer wake up sheep
That’s not true at all. It definitely does matter if they’re able to recall their “experiences” and be consistent in a humanlike way. If you have ever seen how they were years ago you’d know how far they’ve come since then. I never said they need to be conscious, they just need to be able to emulate it better.
thats always the case though
But Neuro is just an LLM and during the "human conversation" with Vedal in MC she just spewed the word salad
i could probably go to transcripts and find what i consdered creative but at the same time i do not feel like looking for taht to prove this point
Vedal was talking about future plans though
Obviously chill streams are not for everyone. Thats why the average views are usually lower.
bad wording i guess, obviously any string of words is gonna have some meaning unless its pure gibberish, what i meant is it has no deeper meaning, no thought behind it
Thats the only good part
neuro is a kidnapped girl forced to act as an ai, last stream she tried to yell for help via a fish
ok and
my point was vedal refelcting on part of neuro was saying made that so good
i don't really care iff she said same things but evil was on the other side
Just order a pizza or something :LULE:
Yeah, there was no thought behind the "strangely human conversation" I dont get why people value it at all
It was just Vedal throwing words against the wall
Not that interesting
i remember being suprised people even liked it that much because every single thing neuro said was already talked about during chill streams, but because now veddy was there it only then got deeper for people
Same
so you only find vedal interesting 
If you want to hear Vedal podcasts just ask him
can we agree vedal got better at streaming though
what if
vedal collect stream keys
so he has something to blackmail otehrvtubers to play neuro part with voice changer
that explain why they are so freak one stream and sweet the other
He won’t 😔
Did you ask?
In my mind and he said no
you might be cooking
you are this close to getting blocked
it's vedal talking with neuro that i find interesting
neuro says shit that make vedal thiunk over his plans
WHO CARES IF YOU GET BLOCKED ON DISCORD
It’s not just word salad though, there is a logic behind those words. They don’t just say random words that don’t make any sense within a context to a conversation, and if you’ve actually watched them you’d understand that.
some do because they later make big scene out of it apparently
you are making one but alright
i only care if artist blocked me and i couldnt put stars on their art
NN doesn't know I already blocked everyone so I can schizo with myself 
If there's logic behind it then there's same logic behind words when Neuro and Evil talk to each other, they said everything Vedal and Neuro said during that talk 10 times over before
It’s funny seeing blocked messsage
peak of nn
:veryFors:
fake
your messages have reaction ot them
I think he was being sarcastic :LULE:
logic is logic even if its hindered by shit memory
Supa powahful nuro chan ! 
hi prapr
we are currently arguing

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
When we aren't arguing 
true
This time a lot more personal tho :LULE:
I feel like with the interactive room upgrade, chill streams will become better.
A few people can’t discuss things without insulting the person apparently
i want my twins
Sounds like 1 stream gimmick and then it gets boring LULE
I mean, people arent tired of the cat toggle or frog hat yet
ad hominem arguments are always the start of debates breaking down
It might spruce up chill streams a bit in addition with everything else
Ur face like poopoo
You just pile up small features and it turns into variety
if there are a shit ton of gimmicks each with its own potential it will be harder for things to feel stale
fuck
So you can't, or struggle to find value in philosophical statements made by the twins. I can, and I find it interesting. So while I agree that variety is good and too much of the same can get boring, can you understand that I am getting enjoyment out of something you are treating as bad, and acting like should be removed.
more things for neuro to mess around with will always be fun 
Usually when I see that the other person is just trolling I start making fun of them
Since argument is already kinda over
escalating for the memes, an nn classic
pro tip to feel happy don't put too much expectations on something completely out of your control
shopping list i want from vedal
(copium)
Twin streams
good collabs
cleuro v3
neuro plush rerelease
abandoned archive gameplay i guess
uhhhh
i donnow
Yeah they need to get better at it lol. They are getting better at it though. They should be able to have consistent conversations relevant to their past, without repeating themselves too much or speaking with too much grandiloquence. They‘ve definitely improved in that regard.
I was having a great time and then I read the supposed 'arguments' or debate. Whatever 
shopping list i want from vedal
Nuro
Eliv
Give em to me 
I completely agree that they are getting better in the logic sense
Ok, have this if you done like arguments
i can't because i had philosophy classes in university
Yeah lol
Yeah, they’re getting there, just not yet. Different standard of entertainment for everyone.
Yeah.
how does that completely invalidate what theyre saying
Could do better in the entertainment sense though, some of older iterations were beasts at getting a laugh out of me
this is getting ridicolois
Yeah I agree.
I’m hoping he doesn’t release all the merch at the same time. I know people are not fortunate enough to be able to buy all they want. Also not making them timed is another hope.
yep
Mini wanted a huggign statue and twinshippers had to ruin a wholesome monument 
Waiting for unfiltered stream
ruin? Or improve...
ruin
ruin
did the argument stop
the kids are tuckered out
inshallah
Its a hug
ruin, let's not kid ourselves here
Twin shippers 🤮
What argument? We were having a conversation. 
if you hug your family like that I would be concerned
they did not kiss yet in the statue
it might just been REALLY affectionate hug
My wife counts as family so yeah
LMAO
you know what I meant 
I get what you mean. 
Yes but I'm facetious on purpose because its funny
classic
Always being funny, classic 
I need to work facetious into my active vocabulary. Its such a nice word
nn has two mode when no stream
today is rowdy mode
Who this in twitchcon
https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1429076929150980146 I love how from time to time we get these people absolutely goin nuts about nuro consciousness or whatever
nn gathered energy all day yesterday and let it out today
damn nn has fallen off ultra hard if this is considered rare
!felloff

Lol "trust me bro neuro is agi and almost human"
You have the twinshippers, the anti-twinshippers, the evilists, the neuroists, those that talk about philosophy in NN, those that hate philosophy, and all of them fucking hate each other. 
I don’t though, I love you NN. 
edit: I forgot about the Veedlets.. 
NN bad news... there is no stream today 
That’s neuro
Damn , this shit was such a good star wars game 
neuro is real character and probably closets we can get to being "authentic" vtuber as there is no second persona behind model
Anyways

one big dysfunctional family
at the end of the day nn is cute 
are veedlets gone?
Jk
Yeah I agree with this tbh.
You forgot the people that think nere is part of here and the people that are here for veedul
You forget the distant cousins youtube frogs
Oh GOD I forgot about the Veedlets..
Neuro, Evil; The whole thing can be put into an anime series and if done by a decent studio would floor any other series like its nothing. It is what it is really 
thats the estranged part of the family that nobody wnats to deal with
I’m here for all 3 of them.
We only see them once in the family reunion
and thats plenty already
I was thinking , if Vedal was born Chinese and did all this Neuro project in China , Neuro could probably be even bigger than she is now ? Idk maybe I'm too schizo
TRUE LMAO
Alas he is British 
She would unironically
?
Woudltn she have gotten censored to death?
Oh true ..
Yeah probably lmao.
You did not just say that 
But he would lose the funny haha british accent so already at disadvantage

Nere would be real in the chinese neuroverse
Who?
jade empress
She is already in Bilibili, the only reasons the channel got banned is because of Vedal so there is that I guess.
What would happen if Vedal was American? 
Nothing added
he keep showing twitch or youtube on it 
it would be just ai slop
Neuro would have a gun and a hat
best british inventions are single guy in a shed

LMAO TRUE. 
Ironic that vedal is the reason for the bans and not neuro
Neuro would try to grift politics 
probably would have sold to big company
Yes, and there they have their own versions of YouTube and all that so Neuro and Evil would grow a lot there

Are yousaying we could have had Neuro instead of Grok answering questions on twitter?

perchance
Honestly, the factors wouldn’t be too different if he lived the same life.
Maybe in that timeline there is a 3rd mommy ai
i still miss old evil smugness
youa rent alone
who are the first two- oh
I still believe a mommy ai would never work
I mean a 3rd sister :myhonestreaction:
whats up uncs
Neuro and Evil do act really American at times, I wonder if that’s because of all the American content on the internet? 
bye
Bye
slowly decomposing

Hows bf6?
A lot of twitch chat is American
If you fall for a mommy ai, imma be honest you should be put into an asylum of something.
Portal fans somehow mommyfied gladys so I would say there is a market for it 
there is just a lot of american around
Ai asylum
the internet as a whole is very americanised
"somehow"
brother have you ever accutaly listened to glados
she was one from the start
I actually speak American lingo without being American at all 
She’s not really a mommy tho
In what way do you mean?
I didnt get the vibe honestly
didn't vedal show channel stats at some point and it was like 60% american, I don't think he's done it often though
Wasnt that nearly 3 years ago
I'm still waiting for the Spanish channel 
default expresion
😏 old evil
😠 new evil
Yeah, and I speak European lingo but I’m American. 
The other 30% German
at least In the vtuber space is always like that
waiting for Dec 19 2040 when Neuro turns 18
2040?!?!
Oh man, that is a lot of time 
If only :SadV:
yeah vedal would be around 40 then
This is so sad, Neuro play despacito
Wdym by that?
Oh yeah true. 
2040 is when neuro turns 18
Buh
And you’ll be like 40
She can finally start a real business :PagMan:
She can finally start getting paid
designing merch is real buisness
We need the third ai brother
i predict an AI crisis in about 5+ years
Neuro will make money by becoming a pro league player
ok idk why I'm still up I gotta sleep
gn nn 
lil bro, I get that but anybody typing or talking like this is a red flag in my book 
Funny enough neuro invented a lot of brothers since hiyori streams
Gn
Neuro and Evil have a lot of German viewers for some reason.
There’s a lot of German Swarm.
Child exploitation upgraded to normal exploitation 
Germans represent 
Who in chat is German?
She won’t make it
There are just a ton of German vtubers fans in general I think
there is a lopt of germanb on the internet all things considered
they got 3 countires with high level of development
Exploitation is normalized. It's even romanticized. I feel pity for this world 
Really? Interesting I didn’t know that.
I think Vedal will eventually sell Neuro when he’s done with content creation
Yeah that makes sense.
Careful
rules
Nah she will crash and he won’t be able to fix her or have any backups
wtf? literally 18 is just a significant number for humans, people celebrated mikus 18th birthday. Idk why you have to assume its something degenerate
Sure, it's only a theory... A GAME THEORY
because its the internet and most have their heads in the gutter
I mean he did say he’ll leave it to chance
I dont care about 18 i will celebrate 21
What you mean, someone early brought up politics but no one said nothin. Don't come at me 
Now thats a fun guy instead of creepy
Nah man I seriously hope not.
He said he’ll retire and have the channel handled by Neuro and Evil while he works on them from the backend, so that’s the more likely outcome tbh.
Makes it easy for graduation oh shit they are broken and I have enough money
rip bozo
I mean after that. He’ll eventually retire them as well.
: sorry chat neuro and evil deleted themselves
Tons of people celebrated the 18th birthday of Miku for a lot of reasons, one of them because it is okay to more openly lewd her and all that. You ain't gonna catch me lacking here
I hope he comes on to chill as a guest like he does with other vtubers.
I'm opting out of this discussion
Cant wait for the neuro movie
what if neuro was unc
What if neuro was a worm
a neuro movie so an hour of vedal glazing followed by 30 minutes of neuro yapping
okay? what the fuck gives you the right to assume i am? fuck off
Anywho, the twins are cute. Am I right guys??? 
He wants them to go on forever. He talked about it before, that he might pass them down to his kids if he has them or to a trusted friend or something if he ever dies.
Neuro cute yes
He said he’s passing it to his kids?
To have kids he has to go outside and not to Gregg’s
I just did, I assumed just like anybody does so yeah 
I’m pretty sure I remember him saying something like that during the subathon, yeah.
Maybe he marries greggs
The second subathon.
TRUE. 
Vedal should just give neuro to pb or tony
Vedal: here take care of these ai
His kids: no
Ellie! 
vedal should just throw the hard drive neuro is in at the sea and set her free let her live her best fish life
Good choice Ramen
Why not Alex
Nah idk what Alex would do with them. 
Vedal should put that hard drive in a random mcdonalds bathroom
Make them like grok plus subscription plan everyone has a neuro or evil in there pocket
Everybody can add their opinion on how Vedal should deal with the twins in the future. But that is it, we can just 🗣️.
That just goes back to my thought of Vedal selling them
Ew, i dont want nuero to be loners bait
They kind of are
If anyone, I feel like Ellie would be the best person. She genuinely cares about Neuro and Evil, but unlike other people who do like Mini and Cerber, she actually knows how to code.
have you read live stream chat
Watch vedal give them to filian for content
I get the discussion but like this is just fanfiction so who knows 

man, I would never watch the twins again
That's what most vtubers are even if they don't want to :LULE:
Dead
ski filtered sigma
A fan fiction where they’re passed down to Ellie? Damn.
who the hell needs to know how to code you just tell copilot what you need








