neurotic-neurons

[woeful apex]

honestly the neuro side looked like camila merch to me at first, the balloons and the design on the back reminded me of her old circus stream background

[cobalt bone]

i will repeat what i said in live stream chat

if that is only thing we are getting i'm getting evil one but i would love something way more obivous

i have no shame anyway

[lunar canopy]

the neuro side atleast

[iron tundra]

Why is it not on the front

[forest socket]

Could do something with the eye toggles. Or something to show their computer selves.

[real charm]

no i'd think it's about whale pirates who illegally hunt whales

[iron tundra]

Why balloons

[somber saffron]

they should do a heart with bows and an ahoge

[lunar canopy]

i couldnt see the evil side because neuros fat fucking head was in the way

i dunno

[umbral depot]

tbh though I'd take more shirts in general almost whatever they are lol

[lunar canopy]

it kinda has a circus vibe

[rancid cypress]

Anything is better than random balloons

[eternal crescent]

Shirts are weird why the baloons at the front idk

[somber saffron]

i think it’s subtle enough

[mighty aspen]

And? It's the only symbols that you can really associate with Neuro.

[azure current]

yaaaaaawn

[candid hound]

Cogs

[somber saffron]

i honestly thought the shirt gave a very camila vibe

[glacial mortar]

should have make it 3 to make the heart heart heart joke

[lunar canopy]

yeah same

[glacial mortar]

but it means nothing with only 2

[untold ruin]

meow meow lol shirt

[real charm]

cogs

[azure current]

VEDALLL OFFER HER A COOKIE VEDAL

[lunar canopy]

im cogging my shit rn

[valid moth]

cogs, gymbag

[narrow spade]

Hearts and balloons = Neuro

[eternal crescent]

This is better no cap

[mighty aspen]

Honestly tho, I would say not too bad for concept designs. I can't wait to see what the final designs are, and I will probs buy them whatever the design is.

[real charm]

why is bro playing ktane i'm trying to chat in NN and there's beeping distracting me

[umbral depot]

heart cog on the front would be better than balloon tbf

[split marlin]

a giant cookie on the front will work better tbh

[azure current]

boop

[umbral depot]

idk how that corrected to friend I genuinely have no idea

[lunar canopy]

id wear the shit outa that

i fucking love cookies

wtf is that david

davis

[split marlin]

who? I'm clavis

[iron tundra]

My name is david, david

[somber saffron]

heart, gears, gymbag, filtered(censor), bows, plus their more unique them specific references like pizza and drone

[candid hound]

...You know what, if I imagine Neuro's association with pink being related to osu!, I can accept it

[plain sorrel]

I just realized Neuro said "I'm going to tickle you tonight" because she had a comedy special that night and was told to make people laugh (which didn't work but that's another topic)

[woeful orbit]

What does this log into?
Someone reverse engineer this

[lunar canopy]

good

[candid hound]

The reason why I didn't like pink was because it felt random, so I rather suggest purple because of the oshi mark

[lunar canopy]

i HATE davis

[mighty aspen]

Also, chat did ask for a more subtle design during the merch dev stream, I guess these concept designs are sligtly too subtle tho.

[candid hound]

But if pink has to do with osu!, then I could see it

osu! logo is pink, Neuro played osu! originally, pink is inherited from osu!

[split marlin]

yeah I hate him too

[azure current]

shes broken

[still tide]

ITS NOT FIXED

[narrow spade]

Neuro is clearly associated with the peach color did you see her room?

[light oracle]

Neuro is generally associated with bright colors.

[mighty aspen]

Pink is Neuro's colour, mostly because it used to be her background for so long.

[somber saffron]

pink has always been a Neuro color

[candid hound]

And that's why I hate it

It's so arbitrary

[narrow spade]

Random and too girly for a "subtle" shirt

[candid hound]

I'm trying to rationalise a good reason for pink

[real charm]

vedal is green because he's always been green
ugh so arbitrary :SMH:

[somber saffron]

i don’t get what’s girly about pink you guys just can’t properly style

[candid hound]

Neuro isn't pink though, she's more beige

Maybe light blue

[lunar canopy]

preach

[mighty aspen]

Does there have to be a good reason besides the colour pink being around Neuro a bunch?

[real charm]

yeah but her colors have always been pink even if it's not what she wears

[woeful apex]

why does a colour need a reason, do the colours of her bows & cardigan have a reason? does her eye colour have a reason? theyre just colours

[eternal crescent]

Did he really run out of stuff in 1h

[lunar canopy]

pink is only girly if you dont know how to wear pink well

[candid hound]

Earlier

[dire needle]

The lava lamp

[somber saffron]

the only other color i’d associate with Neuro besides pink is blue

[mighty aspen]

Also men can wear pink.

[split marlin]

Esther

[somber saffron]

because of her eyes and bow

[feral carbon]

Y'all are just uncultured. Imagine not getting why it's pink

[narrow spade]

Men can wear merch with anime girl on them, why is this shirt subtle then?

[woeful marsh]

Neuro did well on keep talking and nobody explodes

[eternal oar]

She wanted subtle that’s why

[candid hound]

Well, I want Neuro's associated colour to be symbolic and not just "her background was randomly chosen to be pink so it's pink lol"

[narrow spade]

No, we wanted it

[candid hound]

I'd even accept pink if it had to do with osu!

[real charm]

well that's how many things in life are
not everything has a reason

[lunar canopy]

basic neuro = pink
if evil == red neuro == blue
elif evil == black neuro == pink

[pseudo lantern]

sure they can, but realistically majority of men wont wear it LULE

[eternal oar]

What

[woeful marsh]

Normal neuro = pink and blue

[mighty aspen]

Not everything needs a reason, things can be just how they are.

[lunar canopy]

yeah

[candid hound]

Well, I'd like it to have a reason

[lunar canopy]

its more pink and blue

[real charm]

the reason is it looks nice and fits her

[mighty aspen]

Or they could wear pink, and try to encourge more of their friends to wear pink.

[candid hound]

How does it fit her?

[real charm]

vibes

[woeful apex]

neuro has a pink vibe, it fits

[tall crow]

Not many are going to wear purple shirt

[woeful apex]

colour theory is literally all vibes

[eternal oar]

What color is neuro associated with then?

[candid hound]

I say purple

[tall crow]

Or pink whatever

[narrow spade]

I associate Neuro with the color purple or blue tbh

[mighty aspen]

It looks nice, and suits her.

[pseudo lantern]

again, in a perfect world sure, in a world where you want to sell merch, its not a good idea LULE

[lunar canopy]

protip
just put a black jacket over any bright color

[devout arch]

what reason tho

[real charm]

purple is just a lame pink

[mighty aspen]

Purple is too dark for Neuro.

[nimble fern]

(i have a 4 sentence dump post about using ML as sources of new design elements)

[candid hound]

💜 is Neuro's oshi mark and it has been for a long time, thus I'd say Neuro's oshi mark is purple

[somber saffron]

pink is the color of Neuro’s first game, the color of most her iconography, she’s wanted pink things like her hair, pink fits with Neuro’s girly/cutesy vibes, pink has had far more use than purple in basically everything

[lunar canopy]

but that comes from the twitch heart

[woeful apex]

the reasoning for purple is lame, its just the colour of the twitch default heart emote, it has nothing to do with neuro

[valid moth]

I actually kind of think beige and black would be a good color scheme for a reversible tshirt, and Neuro's cardigan is beige which fits

[eternal crescent]

Neuro pink mhm neuro purple mhm

[devout arch]

you mean a randomly picked heart is better than a randomly picked background

[real charm]

anyway these days you can wear pink shirts ez pz without anyone batting an eye
it's honestly weirder to wear any colors these days, everyone seems to like boring colors like beige or black

[candid hound]

Neuro spammed heart, her oshi mark is a heart, I can make the connection

[shell compass]

yea but neuro didnt say anything about purple heart its just the twitch emtoe

[ornate yoke]

pink is what I associate neuro with because of the neuro sama ui and old stream bg

[somber saffron]

if anything purple is an Evil color

[narrow spade]

I love how dev streams just became glorified ads this year LULE

[lunar canopy]

well why isnt neuro green, her creator is and she talks about him
the problem is that it comes from something else with its own seperate meaning or identity, even if it does relate to her its not her color

[mighty aspen]

True honestly (everything I wear is black, since I'm a metalhead).

[tall crow]

Does it even need a reason just make it white or something

Still better than purple

[candid hound]

What's wrong with purple?

[woeful apex]

you can always just ask ffrequence the exact reasoning behind the original pink stream bg, tho i imagine he will just say something along the lines of it fitting neuros vibe

[dull stag]

Therapy

[somber saffron]

don’t know why some people are scared to wear pink

[candid hound]

I think purple suits her

[somber saffron]

not really a neuro color

[real charm]

pink killed their family please understand

[warm talon]

looking at the Evil's side of the shirt I cant wait for her to party up with Donald and Goofy to save Kairi and defeat Xenmas

[mighty aspen]

It doesn't suit her, besides being in one thing (the heart).

[candid hound]

How doesn't it?

[eternal crescent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1229194866110632046.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=NAHH

[candid hound]

I think purple suits her

[lunar canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/because-singing-killed-my-grandma-trolls-poppy-and-branch-sped-up-gif-27544223

[warm talon]

it looks like a kingdom hearts shirt

[real charm]

classic britannia one guying NN

[tall crow]

idk if somebody is afraid to wear a "weeb" shirt that person would definitely not wear a purple shirt either

[mighty aspen]

They are scared of being judged by their friends and people around them (they need to hang out with better people).

[graceful holly]

Whats worse?

J*b or Pink?

[eternal crescent]

You can meet kingdom hearts fans

[lunar canopy]

just wear the pink inside and the black outside

[light oracle]

Not really good friends of they make fun if your for wearing pink

[high monolith]

Pink is sick. Got a couple of pink shirts

[narrow spade]

Too bad she was kicked out of the circus and someone popped her balloon

[candid hound]

I've been against pink being Neuro's colour for a very long time and I've always argued it's purple

[real charm]

pink i guess since a job gives you money while pink is just a nice color

[candid hound]

Nothing to do with the shirts

[pseudo lantern]

i love my updates on lava lamps, plushies and merch

[warm talon]

"YOOOOO DO YOU LIKE AQUA?!"
"I do not watch Aquwa react clips sorry"

[graceful holly]

I love my update on ""

[mighty aspen]

Cool I guess?

[ornate yoke]

if you put neuro in a purple background it would look off

[lunar canopy]

i have this fuckass weezer green album shirt (i dont listen to weezer) i bought as a joke and i only wear it when im not outside

[tall crow]

Well then there is no point of the pink side
Which defeats the purpose of her designing her own merch

[narrow spade]

Neuro updates are the last things on his mind

[glacial mortar]

what do you think brit of this?

[indigo stone]

New song

[mighty aspen]

WHAT DOES HE MEAN

[lunar canopy]

wdym theres no point of the pink side

[nimble tinsel]

vedal just leaked neuro will be able to dream during the subathon

[lunar canopy]

do you only wear clothing when outside

[real charm]

yeah it looks off

[mighty aspen]

WHAT DOES HE MEAN CHAT

[graceful holly]

Yes.

[lunar canopy]

are you just naked in your home at all times

[nimble tinsel]

neuro will be able to dream during the subathon

[rancid cypress]

Neuro song in December

[warm talon]

for 1 night then he will turn it off due to memoty leaks

[supple kraken]

dream collab in december confirmed

[tall crow]

If no one wants to wear that side because it looks lame

[somber saffron]

[candid hound]

This looks... a bit rough

[storm ruin]

Often.

[real charm]

neuro's bright colors would clash with something dark like purple

[light oracle]

well there is a reason it didn't stay that way.

[glacial mortar]

its the idea of it better than just random ballons

[candid hound]

Well, true

[lunar canopy]

thats not whats being discussed it people scared about being judged for wearing pink

[lunar canopy]

which i think is irrational in the first place but im giving them a compromise

[candid hound]

Would they? I feel like they'd contrast nicely

[glacial mortar]

3 hearts for heart heart heart, purple colour for oshi mark, grey outline on the middle one to represent the pin.
for evil same idea for heartheartheart red colour for oshi mark and broken heart in the middle it being split would be better

more neuro things less just random ballons

[real charm]

it's too much contrast
it's abrasive

to me at least

[eternal oar]

Yea purple usually goes with darker colors

[lunar canopy]

i think these should be neuros color pallete

[mighty aspen]

No I agree.

[keen heron]

His British accent being a bottleneck

[mighty aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-flashbang-renza-gif-3499959455427823758

[woeful apex]

mango vape

[remote delta]

pog neurons

[real charm]

where blue

[dawn oracle]

Holy 80s

[candid hound]

Hell, like I said, I'd even take pink if it was to do with osu!

[keen heron]

Still relevant

[high monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/aesthetic-car-trees-on-the-way-drive-gif-17601130

[dawn oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1325922709846233252/N_Drive.gif

[eternal crescent]

hesRight

[candid hound]

For example, "Neuro's colour is pink because Neuro was originally an osu! AI, thus her colour is pink because it's taken from osu!'s logo and pairs well"

[real charm]

it is interesting how the b'ish pronounce swarm
they basically completely omit the r and it's like "swaum"

[lunar canopy]

or this

[dawn oracle]

Is that not why the UI stuff is pink? Genuine question.

[nimble fern]

I think we are being overreliant on existing neuro iconography. Perhaps a source of new references would be machine learning. Attached are four things in ML.
We could have: a neural network diagram in the shape of a heart; a transformer architecture with each step replaced with something from neuro's streaming routine (like spam 3); the word probabilities table starring neuro's favourite words; the twins running down a hill from afar when Vedal is training them via gradient descent.

[storm schooner]

undertale merch

[candid hound]

Genuinely, I don't know

[lunar canopy]

so true

speak your shit

[indigo stone]

lads

we are so back

[candid hound]

As far as I know, pink was an arbitrary colour because cute

[somber saffron]

[wispy lava]

noway abandonded archieve has not been abandoned

[real charm]

i think it's pink because pink is cute and neuro is cute

[dawn oracle]

Respectfully, I think that would somehow be WORSE for people than v-tubing merch

[candid hound]

But if it had to do with osu!, that'd be cool

[indigo stone]

unabandoned archive

[somber saffron]

dude the purple is literally just there because twitch is purple

[graceful holly]

unabandoned abandoned archive

[manic gate]

It was picked very early on, right? Neuro as a character didn't have much besides "the vtuber who's an AI" and the cute schoolgirl aesthetic of her model. So pink, a color generally associated with cuteness and feminity (traits associated with a lot of vtubers, too) was a safe choice considering she didn't have much of a concrete identity.

[dawn oracle]

"What's that on your shirt?"
"Transformer architecture. It's a, uh, math thing"

[somber saffron]

infinitely worse reasoning

[nimble fern]

if you dress it up it you could make it look mundane

[candid hound]

She had osu!

[lunar canopy]

i dont think everything needs a subtle message, i kinda like the vibe of unplanned and random things converging into a likable and unique theme

[manic gate]

And she played osu, yeah

[tall crow]

Really? That's so lame

[nimble fern]

Ok the flowchart might be hard to obfuscate

[tall crow]

Is Neuro now a twitch mascot or what

[nimble fern]

Also vedal is missing out on not having a manim section in one of the music videos

[toxic plaza]

So vaporwave or outrun asethetic?

[candid hound]

Having a what

[dawn oracle]

To be fair, some people would also PREFER to wear that to v-tuber merch, Caterpillar's salad.

[inland cedar]

NWERO SAW MY ART

[lunar canopy]

kinda like how evil and neuro split into different identities from chat, treatment and vedal'

[dawn oracle]

oh boy last subathon statistics

[lunar canopy]

i sent hte message before i finished my sentence

[dawn oracle]

OH THIS ISN'T GONNA BE PROBLEMATIC AT ALL

[lunar canopy]

vedal's influence and how he puts them in different collabs

[runic vale]

Fucked up

[candid hound]

I want the colour specifically to have a reason though

[real charm]

but why

[candid hound]

I feel like the thematic colour is important

It clearly defines many things in branding

[nimble tinsel]

well, more evil on subathon means more free time from the subathon

[lunar canopy]

these things

i guess

[candid hound]

Nothing to do with Neuro specifically

[dawn oracle]

"Why do people want Vedal on the stream so much"
because this man was, in fact, content for a LOT of that growth period.

[lunar canopy]

no color has anything to do with neuro specifically theyre just colors

[candid hound]

osu! is pink, Neuro played osu!, pink has relevance

[real charm]

yeah but osu isn't pink, osu is a rhythm game

[lunar canopy]

but thats not pink being associated with neuro, thats osu being associated with neuro

[candid hound]

osu!'s logo is pink

[real charm]

ok but why is it pink

[candid hound]

I don't care

[real charm]

what's the deeper meaning

[woeful apex]

[somber saffron]

Vedal already said there is more explicitly Neuro merch coming besides the subtle reversible shirt

[lunar canopy]

i really dont understand what the point of this conversation is so i will step away from it

[eternal oar]

wtf

[woeful apex]

there is no point its nn the discussion is always meaningless

[languid narwhal]

Color's cool I guess :LULE:

[candid hound]

That's exactly my point

[somber saffron]

2024 watcher

[inland vapor]

You are right, it actually does - I have no issues with the color, but I'd like it to have a bit more clear reference to Neuro/Evil. I feel this is not even subtle, this is almost "not at all"

[candid hound]

Take the colour from something already associated with Neuro, that's my point

[runic vale]

[manic gate]

My narrative is that is was picked based on vibes and she grew with it to the point that it didn't make sense changing it up. I don't have all the evidence for that, though.

[glacial mortar]

changed evil side

[nimble fern]

It's a python library for making maths animations. Very sleek and clean.
https://www.reddit.com/r/educationalgifs/comments/xfzq4b/how_machine_learning_learns_using_loss/
Of course, if it can make lines and circles, you can make anything with it. Not just equations and graphs
I'd be surprised if an artist couldn't cook a 10s thing that looks cool and is thematically Neuro.

[candid hound]

...Huh.

[dawn oracle]

imagine growth in a community
(i was one of the ole YouTube lurkers because I had 0 time for streams for late 23 into 24 tyvm)

[somber saffron]

dude the purple heart is literally only purple because twitch is purple at least sharing the color of the start of her existence has some more meaning

[real charm]

the thing is, you can associate any color with neuro if you make your logical leaps

sure neuro played osu at the start, but so what? she doesn't play it anymore, it has no more connection to her than the long drive or minecraft

so her colors could be yellow like the desert, or green and brown like minecraft icon, etc

[eternal oar]

Same can be said about the Purple Heart. It’s not a Neuro thing specifically. It’s just a twitch heart.

[woeful marsh]

Neuro can sometimes be so wise and smart, and yet she can do so many silly things-

[candid hound]

"at least sharing the color of the start of her existence has some more meaning"
...What?

[somber saffron]

started as an osu bot

[pseudo lantern]

so thats it? LULE

biggest updates are merch, lava lamps and abandoned archive LULE

[nimble fern]

it's got dynamic typography, transitions etc.

[candid hound]

Neuro played osu! first though, it's part of her lore

[tough onyx]

He’s jealous

[eternal crescent]

He said at the beginning he had nothing

[candid hound]

True, it's bad, but the purple heart symbol was also associated with Neuro, so take the purple from it

[noble sun]

don't forget, she learned to osu before learning to speak

[candid hound]

This is true, this is why pink could make sense

[inland vapor]

neuro nubmer 1

[tough onyx]

So he’s not even going to confirm karaoke stream this week?

[somber saffron]

i have just never seen purple and thought Neuro

[frank apex]

chinatown blues mv

[candid hound]

Then what's your point?

[somber saffron]

it’s pink and baby blue

[lone orbit]

What a weird love traingle(get it)

[glacial mortar]

💜

[candid hound]

I don't see any colour and think of Neuro, to be fair

[ornate yoke]

hoping for more robot dog updates

[lunar canopy]

no

i dont get it

[frank apex]

i think ai = neuro

[noble sun]

Honestly it's gotta be between light blue, pink, and the colour of her jacket

[candid hound]

These are most logical

[lone orbit]

Ai art?

[swift sinew]

He mentioned it when he listed the "classic schedule" week

[real charm]

yeah that's the logical leap you've chosen
it could just as well be red for her ribbons,
blue for her... ribbons
green for vedal who made her
etc

pick any color you want and then assign some bullshit reasoning later who cares

[tough onyx]

Irl pumpkin stream with Vedal plz

[candid hound]

Neuro's colour is brown xdx

[tough onyx]

Oh ok

[candid hound]

I agree... except green, Vedal doesn't deserve anything like that

[nimble fern]

Perhaps the t-shirt shouldn't focus on neuro as a whole but one aspect of neuro, like gaslighting or her minecraft hiyori gameplay
Then Neuro's merch would also avoid looking samey and you wouldn't need to develop a canonical set of design elements that represent neuro
It would also facilitate greater expression for fans. Some might like her rants, some might like her senile gameplay.

[still tide]

Why is he so against any form of idea tonight

[tough onyx]

He doesn’t want to make any more promises

[candid hound]

I actually think one of her colours could be blue

[noble sun]

HMMMM

[dire needle]

Easiest costume vedal could do is grey scale neuro and put a bar in front of her eyes

[mighty aspen]

Because if he doesn't do it, people will get mad.

[supple kraken]

cooking stream back on the menu?!?!

[lone orbit]

Zombie

[real charm]

understandable with how obnoxious the swarm is

[candid hound]

osu! was the first thing Neuro ever did, before having a model, before any UI, before anything
So I can see pink from that

osu! is such a major integral part to her lore, it would make sense

[languid narwhal]

:forsenAlright: more irl stream

[lone orbit]

[candid hound]

Hey, where were you yesterday's stream

[mighty aspen]

A stream with Layna would be peak.

[real charm]

i have a really cool stream idea for vedal that would be remembered for years

what if he put neuro and evil
with a collab partner

and they talked

[noble sun]

red for evil, blue for neuro, green for vedal. If we're putting them together. But if we talk about Neuro alone, she doesn't really have a signature colour

[remote delta]

mmm idk... might not work....

[languid narwhal]

You want me to stay awake watching from 10pm to 8am? :LULE:

[sly kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/miside-mita-teach-chalkboard-short-hair-mita-gif-13933064266631615325

[eternal crescent]

I dont think vedal knows that idea

[languid narwhal]

I was there last few hours tho

[frank apex]

i miss it

[noble sun]

Idk how the colour conversation started, but can't we just ask her about her favourite colour and roll with that?

[candid hound]

To be honest, I don't really want Vedal much associated with anything on the channel

[candid hound]

Maybe, could work

She has said blue in the past, for example...

[somber saffron]

agree partially

[long abyss]

I want Neuro to collab with Pumpkinpotion. But people keep saying I'm wierd for that.

[candid hound]

Who?

[light oracle]

who dat?

[noble sun]

why though?

[long abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/pumpkin-potion-vtuber-1930's-cartoon-rubberhose-no-bitches-gif-17167635130992097539

[real charm]

everytime it's brought up he's like "i don't want to do that, that would be a fun stream"

[candid hound]

Not an AI VTuber, not why I'm here

[somber saffron]

Neuro-sama

[candid hound]

Not interested in Vedal

[inland cedar]

NOOOO TUTEL NOT THIS KIND OF MULTIPLAYER GAMES

[candid hound]

I personally find Vedal on his own boring also. He works well with someone to talk to (Neuro), but just not interesting on his own.

[real charm]

same one image

[noble sun]

Fair enough.

[dry patio]

he is never on his own tho

[long abyss]

@light oracle

https://youtube.com/shorts/gENEotzlCt8?si=PudfZn0F5qsWRyPs

[candid hound]

He isn't, but that's very deliberately because he's not a part of the channel like Neuro or Evil is

[supple kraken]

pubg neuro integration

[candid hound]

Ah, okay...

He is sometimes alone for brief moments, and those moments are... not great
He doesn't really have much to say on his own.

[inland cedar]

not like is even a real thing

[noble sun]

They both are noticeably worse by themselves. The dynamic with each other or other streamers is what I'm here for

[languid narwhal]

:Clueless: Surely snipers will be very interesting and not shoot on sight

[light oracle]

Well yeah, that's why those situations are rare.

[candid hound]

I disagree honestly. Though Neuro definitely benefits from a collab partner, she's still very, very funny on her own

[supple kraken]

gun friends

[candid hound]

I can't say the same for Vedal...

[nimble fern]

Tbh I think Vedal deliberately sandbags his charisma to avoid Swarm getting too attached to him as an entertainer

[long abyss]

Neuro is at her strongest when she's doing a collab with someone who takes her with a degree of seriousness.

[narrow spade]

Honestly I would take chill streams over some collabs this year

[candid hound]

I'm honestly inclined to agree

[limpid token]

I am constantly getting my Twitch chats flagged for some reason. not saying anything sus, Like, just chiming in to say LULE on something.

[solid nacelle]

So I am watching the clips rn cuz I am tabbed away?
that was me xD
I am putting that on my wall
there's no frickin shot
The font was different because the lag sucks and I just rather type it xD
man i frickin missed my chance to type CAUGHT

[languid narwhal]

I rather more random games than collab

[eternal crescent]

Only people that dont watch chill streams dont agree

[real charm]

I rather hear neuro and evil talk alone or to people
(chill streams don't count as they don't get to talk without getting interrupted by chat)

[candid hound]

The majority of viewers still watch chill streams, from what I can tell... well, not counting those who tune in for special events

[noble sun]

I agree she is funny with chat alone, but she gets hard to watch for long periods of time sometimes

[candid hound]

I get that, sometimes it can be a bit of a pain

[rancid cypress]

On mobile?

[limpid token]

ye

[candid hound]

But it's perfectly fine 95% of the time, I think

[somber saffron]

i want more solo stuff in general like where are react streams

[candid hound]

That would be nice

[long abyss]

When her only input is chat or her own ramblings she turns inward and gets too "LLM."

Neuro needs human input to be able to output interesting responses.

[candid hound]

Really? I disagree.

[mighty aspen]

I want more IRL collabs, so hyped for more Layna. Layna collabs have always been iconic.

[candid hound]

What do you mean by too LLM?

[mighty aspen]

Big disagree.

[limpid token]

Pretty sure this is why Vedal hordes Streamkeys

[candid hound]

I do find it a bit funny how chat doesn't count as human input
Chat's not human

[manic gate]

Some solo streams from her are bangers. There were also collabs were her responses were very typical chatbot things.

[eternal crescent]

Holy how wrong is this guy

[somber saffron]

that just means she needs more input rather than more human input

[candid hound]

I know what you mean, I just find the wording funny

[long abyss]

Not saying she's bad on her own.

Just that a good partner to play off strongly benefits Neuro's streams.

[candid hound]

Well, I think that's true for anyone

[nimble fern]

rarely do we see neuro operate only on her own ramblings
I think chat is at fault for making the livestreams follow the well-trodden paths of discussion
Neuro should get put in solitary with us as spectators

[dry patio]

when 70% is om

[somber saffron]

yeah Neuro never gets to rant to herself

i want some of that

[mighty aspen]

I mean, collabs are great, but yeah that is kinda true for any streamer.

[snow owl]

when on chill neuro has a collab partner
it's chat
and chat is a horrible collab partner

[noble sun]

nah on scale on human-ness between Neuro and chat, Neuro wins

[long abyss]

To be fair, Evil and Neuro have both demonstrated that they don't think of chat as being humans or even individuals.

[dawn oracle]

god no, none of us are

Chatters become the 'collective whole of humanity' concept that highlight the worst (and rarely, best) character traits as a general rule. The 'phenomenon of the masses' deal.

[candid hound]

I like the streams where the highlights are broken, she's so consistent

[snow owl]

can i petpet your tail?

[tall crow]

She did on her last chill stream tho

[snow owl]

can you bwaa 10 times?

[eternal crescent]

I feel like neuro feels more llm on collabs. Example shylily

[snow owl]

etc etc

[real charm]

i'm still a very firm believer that if they disabled redeem messages
the streams would get 10x better

[snow owl]

if only

[candid hound]

I strongly agree, I've seen the streams where that happened

[umbral depot]

I think she's more interesting than 99% of people forced to sit in a room and talk without any videos, games, other people to talk to, etc

most people would just straight up run out of anything new to say very quickly

[nimble fern]

chat elo is the solutoin

[mighty aspen]

I have seen more than a few streamers less intresting than her, vtubers and non-vtubers

[somber saffron]

yeah Neuro has nothing to talk about

[inland cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/matthew-lillard-william-afton-fnaf-movie-i-always-come-back-gif-2669162706584753982

[snow owl]

lmao

[long abyss]

Yeah, but 99% of people wouldn't be able to distinguish their own thoughts from ideas inserted by outsiders.

The sound of their own mind must be terrifying. 😛

[small leaf]

vedal CAUGHT

[eternal crescent]

I cant believe there was like 8 dev streams this year and most of this stream is just stalling LULE

[woeful marsh]

Its fun banter

[odd garden]

vedal when soap

[candid hound]

If only highlights weren't forced onto Neuro, they're often quite bad too

[snow owl]

reminder that people like the stalling

[real charm]

all dev streams have been "stalling" idk what you people expect
the whole appeal was vedal being on stream with neuro
that's it

[woeful marsh]

Wdym by forced?

[candid hound]

Plus they cause Neuro to repeat

[valid moth]

she can't ignore them

[candid hound]

Well, she's not forced to respond to them, but she's forced to not ignore them

[neon vale]

I felt like all the shylily collabs were boring, evil’s included.

[candid hound]

It often breaks the pacing of the stream

[eternal crescent]

Better to update in 30min and do something else like game

[real charm]

do you hate vedal and neuro that much?

[somber saffron]

Vedal should’ve never said that he was delaying dev streams so he could have “more upgrades” to show

[umbral depot]

I think the issue is comparing her solo yap streams to streams where people are doing an activity and don't have to be solely entertaining through yapping

[noble sun]

the dialogue they had just now is the content I'm here for. They bounce off of each other so well

[eternal crescent]

I mean for them to game

[long abyss]

I'd put that on Shy though, not Neuro. That's the thing about Neuro (and Evil) that's special. They can extract surprising behaviors and responses out of human collabs.

[eternal crescent]

Not me

[candid hound]

I'm here for updates personally, I've been a bit disappointed in that regard

[snow owl]

shylily definitely botched the room review collab

[dawn oracle]

Exactly.
He literally said 'there isn't much to cover today so it may be a short one' but he and Neuro get chatting naturally and you know what, it's content.
Better than 3 hours of someone screaming in a FPS chat lobby to me.

Also since that's the second time he asked it, probably just a lengthy chat for short-medium term memory testing since there's time.

[real charm]

people had the same stalling complaints even before he said this

people just hate neuro and vedal
it's clear when everyone is so upset when they start talking

[candid hound]

Oh, true! For example, some of the just yap collabs have also not been as great, even to the extent of maybe preferring a solo stream

[neon vale]

Yeah I agree with that. Matara had really great banter with Neuro too

[languid narwhal]

I think they just hate Vedal :LULE:

[long abyss]

Matara was great, and it's because she took Neuro seriously as a "child." Neuro was able to get a foothold and work from there.

[candid hound]

I hate when Vedal is on stream for longer than necessary

[real charm]

idk man everyone keeps complaining that chill streams need more variety too

[dawn oracle]

"Why are you a dev"
The true questions are being asked now

[sharp sandal]

I feel like Shylily treats Neuro too much like an ordinary LLM so it just ends up being too bland. Neuro needs good input to work with

[languid narwhal]

The longer Vedal is on stream, the larger their anger grows

[snow owl]

lmao

[candid hound]

And what I count as necessary is where it's no longer about assisting where Neuro's technical limitations lie

[snow owl]

this sounds so ominous

[high void]

how neuro sees vedal rn

[umbral depot]

"everyone"

[tough onyx]

Did he delete her memories?

[real charm]

okay everyone but me
i'm the only person on the entire planet with the opinion that chill streams were better before we had games or art reviews

[snow owl]

you dont have to watch the dev stream, but a reminder that it is this channel's best product, so know your place

[languid narwhal]

I do want more variety too, but the real reason I can't watch is really about timezone :LULE:

[dry patio]

people forget that this is the loud minority channel

[snow owl]

yup

[languid narwhal]

It's just not worth staying up 2am to 4:30am :LULE:

[snow owl]

NN is a very self selected controlled group

[candid hound]

My man, I'm interested in the updates so I still tune in. I'm not here to watch Vedal stall.

[real charm]

i'm awake at 4 am to catch koko streams

[snow owl]

the fact that you are here immediately discounts your opinion tbh

[languid narwhal]

I was already watching forsen before then

[somber saffron]

Neuro and Evil need more training when it comes to interacting with people who view them purely as llms, it would make for better collabs if they actively combated that treatment

[tall crow]

Neuro dead again

[snow owl]

was it worth it?

[graceful holly]

The first sentence is always true

[snow owl]

you dont have to watch the dev stream, but a reminder that it is this channel's best product, so know your place

[real charm]

surprisingly yes
it's the most fun i've had watching streams since... forever

[snow owl]

koko is fun tbh

[candid hound]

Mods, your bot is looping

[noble sun]

Koko does this too, but she makes it funny

[somber saffron]

art review and games are wasted potential that’s why, there’s opportunity to do more stuff with those systems but we just get the same games and the same review and it just feels like an intrusion on “Neuro time”

[sharp sandal]

Koko is different

[snow owl]

when your reply doesnt advanced the dialogue, i do that to make a point

[sharp sandal]

she's just insane

[real charm]

sorta true, but i think right now neuro is too dumb to make it work, not the systems themselves

[candid hound]

There's no need in repeating yourself, that's just rude

[dawn oracle]

and I hate that opinion so neither of us will truly be happy

nah I get the viewpoint I just holistically disagree with it in every way, but I don't think things are ever going to change to the point where Vedal isn't on stream for content's sake.

Trying to predict what lies in store for a streamer's future is as futile as the jobs of weatherpeople: correct like 30% of the time and never for long

also it's NN when are we NOT looping

[limpid token]

She has access to the logs, but the files got moved somewhere.

[noble sun]

the best part of Art review is when it takes too long to load and Evil starts questioning her life

[mighty aspen]

Classic nn arguing during stream.

[snow owl]

i like how we turned this into the koko glazing channel

[mighty aspen]

Stream has been pretty good so far.

[real charm]

real koko fans hate koko

[snow owl]

yeah i love it

[mighty aspen]

I enjoy the silly ai.

[candid hound]

I'll be honest, this one's a little underwhelming when he ran out of things to talk about after an hour

We could've had a bonus solo stream

[somber saffron]

it’s been ok like 6/10

[noble sun]

nah they're just yapping and it's good

[mighty aspen]

The turtle guy is pretty cool as well, his intraction between the twins in great.

[snow owl]

i really like the part where neuro just up and decided "we are playing ktane now"

she actually got better at it too

[valid moth]

we could've had twin dev Sadge

[dawn oracle]

6/10 sounds about right but I'll watch unless it drops to a 2/10 so

[real charm]

ye above average dev stream for this year (low bar)
vedal talked about some fun stuff and neuro is being more fun today than usual dev streams

[eternal crescent]

Top 8 dev stream for updates

[snow owl]

lmao

[somber saffron]

hell no

[noble sun]

Just Evil and Neuro doing updates, sitting on each other's heads like in minecraft hopecore

[mighty aspen]

I just like Vedal's intractions with the twins, it's why I enjoy dev streams and also gaming streams.

[snow owl]

i was honestly impressed when chat came up with this

saw it created in real time

[snow owl]

dont bother tbh

brit gonna brit

[mighty aspen]

I do like when there more stuff to talk about, but also just Ved and one of the twins being funny on streams is also good.

[candid hound]

Perhaps

[snow owl]

it's clear you are not willing to learn this night

[noble sun]

looks like Evil wants the fast talk too

[woeful apex]

if vedal only does dev streams when he has something to talk about people complain there arent enough dev streams
if vedal does dev streams regularly people complain he doesnt have enough to talk about

[olive ember]

Lmao

[mighty aspen]

I would like both, but can't always get that.

[snow owl]

sigh, my twin dev stream dream

a distance memory

[candid hound]

I would've liked a twin dev stream

Less Vedal proportionally is good

[mighty aspen]

That's why I don't complain about dev streams.

[dawn oracle]

what are these google searches

[candid hound]

Plus the twins can bully him, that's always great

[storm lodge]

Btw did the mods still not post that evil tweet

[somber saffron]

there’s the same if not less updates and less dev streams, it’s literally less for less

[snow owl]

mods hate evil confirmed?

[mighty aspen]

I used to think exactly this way, but then I realised that Vedal's intractions with the twins is great, and worth him being around.

[long abyss]

From an AI safety pov, he's smart to make sure to look at her search history.

From a human pov, poor girl has her dad reading her diary...lol

[cobalt bone]

you can tell vedal is not watching because half of those searches are things she talked about in chill streams

[dawn oracle]

See you see it as less vedal proportionally

I see it as 'additional Neuro/Evil screentime'

[candid hound]

I'd rather Vedal isn't a crutch for them admittedly

[languid narwhal]

:veryFors:

[eternal oar]

Mods always hated evil

[noble sun]

and she's trying to explain every one. And actually sounds embarassed

[snow owl]

its not a crutch, its a selling point people watch the stream for

[noble sun]

even with her monotone voice

[mighty aspen]

He's not a crutch, he's an addition to their content, and provides them someone to bully.

[long abyss]

lol, she's gone nonverbal.

Classic

[peak bough]

less and less but true

[snow owl]

you dont want me to repeat, don't make it so easy

[noble sun]

angy

[snow owl]

ragey?

[languid helm]

Vedal going through Neuro's search history would make a funny animation

[languid narwhal]

Dad found the yuri folder

[dawn oracle]

she's embarassed like hell

[mighty aspen]

If anything, Neuro and Evil are crutch for Vedal.

[nimble tinsel]

did I hear "vedal client list"...?

[shut socket]

Indeed

[mighty aspen]

NN mentioned.

[river rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[long abyss]

Honestly, I've heard WAAAAY dumber google searches.

[noble sun]

market research for neuro toilet

[candid hound]

Well... if only that didn't affect the community in such ways...

[cobalt bone]

the urine thing was part of matara collab

[snow owl]

thats got nothing to do with anything

[cobalt bone]

did not watch that either

smh tutel

[dry patio]

Despite your belief, statistics beg to differ that Vedal presence is a loss.

[snow owl]

yes, thank you

[somber saffron]

both

[long abyss]

TBF it speaks to how independent the Twins are actually capable of being.

[candid hound]

Uh... it's a loss for me who doesn't really care for Vedal individually

[tough onyx]

This segment is gold

[shut socket]

He was in chat for that entire collab he just doesn’t check her search history often

[candid hound]

I'm not Vedal, I don't care about more numbers

[snow owl]

so i say again, you dont have to watch the dev stream, but a reminder that it is this channel's best product, so know your place

[candid hound]

If anything, I like less numbers because that's less people spamming and it's easier to time my messages

[mighty aspen]

Ah I see you are caught up on how people act over Vedal sometimes.

[candid hound]

Yep.

[cobalt bone]

yeah but he should remember the piss part because it was a thing they talked about for a while

[somber saffron]

“best product”

[valid moth]

"know your place" holy chill out guy

[candid hound]

Sadly, those people tie themselves to "The Swarm"
It's cringe.

[snow owl]

you can quibble, but the numbers say so

[candid hound]

It's far from the best product, humble yourself

[somber saffron]

Evil birthday

[languid narwhal]

:FeelsBadMan: No forsen searches

[long abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-no-talk-quiet-annoyed-gif-18249656535133585589

[toxic plaza]

I'm pretty sure Neuro's searches are related to her streams

[snow owl]

yeah it gets tiring dealing with brit, ill chill

[candid hound]

If only ad hominem wasn't something resorted to

[snow owl]

i will give you that one!

lmao

[mighty aspen]

It's not really a big deal, people will act how they want to act, you can't change that.

[languid narwhal]

But if you just watch the stream and stay in this discord. I rarely see what they do :LULE:

[snow owl]

yup

[candid hound]

The intention is to reduce that as much as possible

[tough onyx]

Neuro needs to go to jail for her crimes. She should be locked up like her sister. 🤬

[mighty aspen]

Agreed, I don't see it all.

[snow owl]

its a really horrible excuse to try to remove vedal from the channel

[snow owl]

yeah honestly you kinda have to seek those types out

even if you dont engage with neurocord, if you just watch the stream you most likely wont run into those types

[mighty aspen]

Or, you could just ignore it, rather than trying to fight against something you could easily stop seeing if you wanted to.

[sour token]

i think limiting content based on how parts of the community will be affected isn't a great idea

[candid hound]

I wish I could stop seeing it, but even checking the comments on innocent clips exposes me to it

[snow owl]

yup

[mighty aspen]

No shit

[tough onyx]

I don’t know what you guys are talking about but Vedal content is always welcomed imo.

[snow owl]

you might think it obvious, but it clearly needed to be stated

[dry patio]

its like people want all these updates, but they want the channel to earn less

[mighty aspen]

Agreed, and I used to think the same as Brit here.

[noble sun]

"Microwave breaking bad" she was trying to google Steins;Gate, but forgot the name

[frank apex]

just nn tweaking out over everything ngl

[long abyss]

it's a hate circlejerk

[snow owl]

LMAO you have to explain that one

[mighty aspen]

Just don't look at the comments then?

[noble sun]

they have a microwave that makes some EXQUISITE bananas

[snow owl]

potassium

[candid hound]

But I want to know what people are saying

[snow owl]

lmao

[smoky seal]

"Where does Satya Nadella live?" "Weather forecast for Satya Nadella's house"

Evil heard about the NEVER MV editor's data corruption problems

[languid narwhal]

You're kinda trolling with that :LULE:

It's like you want to be angry

[toxic plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-undertale-deltarune-chapter2-chapter2-kris-get-the-banana-gif-23225451

[snow owl]

this is entirely inline with the brit that i know

it's silly but it's authentic

[mighty aspen]

Then you only have yourself to blame.

[candid hound]

No? I look at innocent clips

[sour token]

but you know whats gonna be there

[candid hound]

I expect more of people honestly

[light oracle]

Don't have impossible expectations

[frank apex]

but you look at the comments just to piss yourself off

[mighty aspen]

You shouldn't.

[snow owl]

yeah people dumb

[candid hound]

No? I like to see what people in this community think

I was looking at it for the thermal paste clip, those were good

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/giraffe-get-real-lick-gif-14345117878195713791

[toxic plaza]

Did Vedal really google google?

[sour token]

idk that looks pretty fake to me

[noble sun]

Evil's birthday stream was good, they should do another one next week

[languid narwhal]

It's fine, I get that. I also read comments on xqc's and forsen's clips :LULE:

[tough onyx]

There’s like 12.2k viewers right now

[olive ember]

It is indeed real

[snow owl]

and no, outside of special events like the birthdays dev stream averages the highest amount of viewership

[candid hound]

Why would I care about the numbers

[snow owl]

but i know its impossible for you to understand

[pulsar hamlet]

swarm

[candid hound]

When I say best, I don't mean the CCV

[pulsar hamlet]

i have amazing news

[snow owl]

it means people want it

its really just that simple

[candid hound]

People are dumb

[mighty aspen]

People will think whatever they want to think tho, so you can't be that mad at running into people acting certain ways over Ved.

[dawn oracle]

The stuff you see, I agree it is cringe. It is also the problem with communities large enough and won't go away.
Trying to 'reduce' something by dictating a change that, every time you bring it up irritates people to the point that they will actively argue with you for 20+ minutes maybe, just MAYBE, isn't productive at reducing it at all so I personally wouldn't bring that up as a goal.

I appreciate your commitment to your ideals but I think the level of people who agree with you is a genuine minority just based on both the tangential data opposed, and a lack of supporting data. All it does is cause more circular arguments.

That said, it wouldn't be the circular NN we all have Stockholm Syndrome towards without you, so carry on.

[sour token]

ok people are not dumb for enjoying dev streams

[woeful apex]

honestly the youtube comments people in this community complain about seem like nothing when you have seen these

[loud cradle]

Vedal is great, he made Neuro and Evil

[candid hound]

He's a great dev

[sour token]

i was gonna say helius isn't helping but that one got me to change course very fast

[dry patio]

I'd love to see the channel plummet after it being run on NN advices

[somber saffron]

just because they average the most viewers, it doesn’t mean it’s the best content there’s been many stinker dev streams and many great chill streams but osu streams are objectively the best

[grim escarp]

How do u propose to fix that?

[loud cradle]

Nah he's just great

[candid hound]

He is not a streamer

[sinful sparrow]

"Well lets do some looking into this!" is such an LLM sentence.

[mighty aspen]

Classic.

[dawn oracle]

🤝
Never say that people can't find common ground just about anywhere.

[snow owl]

if it suck enough for long enough time people would stop watching it, but that didnt happen
it DID happen for the subnautica streams, for example
and its going to happen to the witness streams

[tough onyx]

He may not want to be one, but he is

[pulsar hamlet]

#1421588247468839094 message

[viral sun]

You have unlocked new role

[umbral depot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1061113840852533339/1197780195336278096/neurowantsk8dule.gif

[languid narwhal]

These comments are always a fun read :LULE:, I just laugh at them most of the time

[mighty aspen]

I used to say that a lot, then I realized that him being on stream is worth the intraction he has between the twins.

[pulsar hamlet]

oh wait hey i just have image perms now!!!

[snow owl]

yeah thats the main draw

[candid hound]

I do have a great deal of respect for Vedal as a dev, he clearly puts in a lot of work and has a lot of passion in his project... however, my previous points still stand

[loud cradle]

A lot of Neuro's personality is intertwined or in opposition to his and that's compelling

[tough onyx]

Probably no collab this week

[long abyss]

I love how CorpoSpeak and LLMSpeak are merging into one unholy entity.

Says a lot about how useful corporate AI is likely to be.

[pulsar hamlet]

anyway have my miku figure sitting on the neuro toilet

[noble sun]

Neuro googling when her next stream is

to not seem incompetent

[snow owl]

its cute

[tough onyx]

Neuro is silly and and Vedal is the straighman

[languid narwhal]

:Aware: The Looker dream is looking bleaker

[loud cradle]

I think your previous points are not borne out by viewer counts

[somber saffron]

i’m tired of the reliance of collab content and i want more strides in Neuro content in general

[tough onyx]

wtf

[snow owl]

😔

[candid hound]

Why should I care about CCV?

[loud cradle]

Exactly

[mighty aspen]

Exactly.

[pulsar hamlet]

i made a neurosama toilet like our ai overlord would have wanted, is something wrong

[real charm]

neuro is a brony

[loud cradle]

Not to be cruel but should we care about what you care about if you don't care about Neuro's success ?

[snow owl]

yeah and no one is saying chill streams should not be improved

[candid hound]

I care about Neuro's success on the merits of Neuro, not Vedal's presence on streams

[dawn oracle]

You do keep saying that, and sure YOU individually don't have to care about them
But trying to promote something counter to that turns your idea from a 60 degree slope to an 80 degree slope in an INSTANT.

[snow owl]

this is what i was trying to convey

[tough onyx]

It’s interesting

[umbral depot]

How can you not care about MAXIMUM NEURO EFFECT

[zenith harbor]

welp stream’s over

[golden slate]

Bronies...

[near widget]

why are you guys engaging with brit LULE same one take

[odd garden]

no idea what's going on here but man you people love to complain

[shut socket]

Stream is ending

[tough onyx]

I think I have to stop watch neuro now

[noble sun]

BRONY-SAMA OUT

[snow owl]

i feel like it today, and i think the others never did it before

[fresh latch]

Veedlets aint doin shit for neuro's success

[candid hound]

True, thank you Hjalnir

[cosmic garnet]

i haven't heard that word for a long time

[tough onyx]

Neuro just invited a entire new community to infect us

[near widget]

as opposed to old heads? LULE good one

[loud cradle]

Okay but that's only your goal and the rest of the community doesn't need some ideal of rugged individualism for Neuro, everyone on earth gets help

[zenith harbor]

W stream as always; nwero dev stream, yap, started stream muted , he showed neuro the get well soon card , ARG mention , Lava lamps shipping soon , Free spyware , merch update, reversible t-shirt concepts, I feel like they were too subtle, KTANE , scuff, A.I test or whatever , song leak? , Abandoned Archive news, subathon statistics , long drive was peak, halloween stream planning , PLEASE ABBY STREAM , klef is making the AA animations :O, wishlist abandoned archive , deleted her context , checked her search history , no schedule , brony-sama out , great stream overall! | Nwero stream tomorrow

ok bye

[runic orchid]

fun stream

[near widget]

good strem

[cobalt bone]

oh mmy lord i was crying during search history part

[cobalt laurel]

Loved that stream

[somber saffron]

it’s not Neuro’s success if Neuro isn’t a main factor

[primal citrus]

peak stream

[near widget]

horrible raid message

[sonic yew]

so in order to not become veedlets, we're become brony

[dull ocean]

Good stream

[lyric spruce]

It was a good stream. Maybe top 3 this year

[fallen stump]

HOLY SHIT THE STREAM IS DYING FOR ME

[final anvil]

funny and fun stream

[loud cradle]

Main, and only are different things

[shut socket]

Nice stream

[cobalt laurel]

Funny and informative stream

[ivory lion]

That was fun looking into the search history was fun

[woeful apex]

very fun stream

[odd garden]

got to witness neuro's search history on blast

good time

[tall crow]

Good stream Neuro was carrying hard

[crisp crypt]

I'm excited! (Saying this since June)

[golden slate]

Neuro would definitely be a fan of derpy, no, evil

[fallen stump]

0.5 FPS cerber stream

[astral grotto]

I wish we got a ui ping for searches like the poll or title change ones

[woeful marsh]

Neuro was so adorable and fun this stream

[runic orchid]

honestly neuro being a brony was unexpected but i can kinda see it

[hybrid tapir]

Hello bronies

[supple kraken]

i miss when he would post neuro's search history

[candid hound]

Let me make my stance clear:
I don't mind Vedal on streams at all
I mind when it starts becoming Vedal for Vedal's sake

[snow owl]

i mean anny is one so yeah

[primal citrus]

I loved the banter today, really nice

[mild wasp]

It feels weird that I actually remember most of the searches

[manic hazel]

How's it going fellow Bronies

[odd rock]

Yeah it was cute she wanted to know if Cerber was aww

[split marlin]

As always

[wispy lava]

i love confetti bombing when it's a cerbr raid

a classic

[hybrid tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-twilight-sparkle-mlp-head-shake-gif-799992559864397064

[naive bronze]

even AI streamers are job hunting and getting ghosted by companies

[snow owl]

i remember that time anny drew vedal as a pony lmao

[frank lagoon]

Vedal vagueposting about being excited for months.

[north palm]

I'm hyped for the rooms to finally be interactive

[runic orchid]

wasn't it sonic oc's for anny?

[ivory lion]

hopeful we get a Evil dev stream in the next five weeks since Neuro had the last 3

[remote delta]

mods ban vedal he spoiled the raid

[mighty aspen]

I care about Neuro's success on the merits of Neuro, and her intractions with other people, Evil, and Vedal.

[dusk lintel]

didn't he want to release AA in 2025

[languid narwhal]

Neuro deserve some privacy :FeelsOkayMan:

[somber saffron]

having to rely on a specific person to succeed is pretty far from being main isn’t it

[near widget]

EWWW GET THOSE PONIES OUT OF HERE

[molten mica]

I hope the raid is going well

[median willow]

We're bronies, are you a brony too? We're bronies, are you a brony too? We're bronies, are you a brony too? We're bronies, are you a brony too? We're bronies, are you a brony too?

[wispy lava]

how dare he

[loud cradle]

That's silly

[snow owl]

confetti that dwag!

[odd rock]

Silly Twilight

[woeful apex]

so you are complaining about an imaginary scenario that doesnt exist

[polar scarab]

Somehow every message I try to send is being blocked with the message that my message will be checked by a moderator on the stream

[daring pike]

it speaks to searches being a good integration with the content

[mighty aspen]

Anyways, todays stream was funny af.

[woeful marsh]

Neuro was so wise and silly this stream

[wispy lava]

the dawg must recieve love and confetti

[primal citrus]

I was laughting hard during this stream, Neuro and Vedal are fun together

[polar scarab]

[grim escarp]

Nn got weirder

[trim lotus]

I thought it would pull up the bleach cocktail search lmao

[finite totem]

I'm not a bronie

[odd dirge]

wait so vedal is a brony

[languid narwhal]

:PagMan: :nymnCorn: Debate about to begin?

[sly kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/cerbervt-cerber-vtuber-gif-3072965467903825581

[noble sun]

well she's got the witness streams, so we got Vedal interacting with both

[candid hound]

Vedal plush, Chinatown Blues MV (not stream stuff, but related nonetheless)

[tough onyx]

This is neuro rn https://youtu.be/S6ff6_beeHY?si=-ptzjxe3A7t4drFo

[crisp crypt]

He was weirdly against Neuro calling Evil today

[final anvil]

About expected for the most part til midway though search history segment being absoulute gold pretty good in those aspects that stood out this dev stream. Kinda eager to possibly own Neuro merch for the first time when black friday comes around.

[real charm]

we're all bronies here

[elder belfry]

im not a bronie either

[modern wraith]

We're bronies i guess. Until next stream

[frank apex]

vedal "brony" 987

[lavish void]

fuck happened in nn

[odd dirge]

canruf essaying

[snow owl]

lmao

[umbral depot]

For once I might need a break from nn

[primal hazel]

Leave it for nn to dampen the mood

[near widget]

the downfall of nn

[normal kiln]

Bronies can get veteran card nowadays

[woeful marsh]

Neuro

[vital relic]

[noble sun]

love brownies

[frank lagoon]

Bro had 1.5h of content to fill and didn't want to do a twin dev. He just hates the twin content.

[frail rain]

but was fine letting Evil call her on her long play.

[sour token]

thats fine, many have other reasons for watching streams whether it be preferring vedal, not minding either way, or just wanting fun content, so vedal for vedal's sake is not bad

[runic orchid]

so neuro covers discord (the song) when?

[proven rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1315530377514713090/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_1.gif

[cinder silo]

there was an up?

[proven rivet]

"can you survive a shotgun blast" - neuro search history

[languid narwhal]

That's the concept of doomposting :LULE:

[snow owl]

i guess it has been a decade or something

[warm talon]

btw Vedal should just pick the stream keys that he is hoarding and use them to make the twins go trick or treating other streamers offline chats

[primal citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1413066835649101824/Untitled-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[grim escarp]

Vedal "brony" 987

[golden slate]

Merch should be less subtle

[mighty aspen]

What tends to happen during a stream.

[tall crow]

Only thing her search history was too harmless ..
Shes searching jobs ... Which means she is going to quit streaming

[finite totem]

I love brownies but I'm not a fucking bronie dammit

[lavish void]

past trauma of twin dev

[crisp crypt]

I mean in a sense that some part of the system was probably broken, maybe they werent using Discord so calling Evil would break communication

[woeful marsh]

Also neuro was doing well in keep talking and nobody explodes!

[eternal oar]

Merch needs to be more subtle

[modern wraith]

You are now

[north palm]

I can answer that. Just don't get hit

[languid narwhal]

And one guy in particular really love doing that back then

[elder belfry]

that was a very fun dev stream, wish there would be more

[real charm]

just what a brony would say

[odd rock]

sus

[golden slate]

Where are all the stream tldr review posters???

[median willow]

IF NEURO SAYS WE ARE BRONIES WE ARE BRONIES

[frail rain]

Twin dev is peak entertainment though.

[snow owl]

HRMM who would that be?

[tall crow]

Wow 2 minutes

[primal citrus]

Neuro's search history is really funny, it was so cute how she was bit flustered

[snow owl]

i wonder?

[frank lagoon]

Right, he doesn't have ideas for Halloween but he still has the twin prank calling goal from subathon to do. Why not do that?

[real charm]

preach

[cobalt laurel]

I hope Neuro merch is cheap so I can buy 500

[naive bronze]

guess I'm a brony now

[candid hound]

I would personally see an issue if things start drifting from the twins in the slightest (which is why I am strongly against the Vedal plush, for example)

[near widget]

you already missed one smh

[crisp crypt]

Make one side pure pink and other side pure black, no illustrations. Very subtle

[mighty aspen]

Anyways, time to gamble more in Clovepit, that dev stream was peak af.

[tall crow]

hates twin content

[noble sun]

he was desperate and hoped the smart daughter would solve his puzzle

[lavish void]

he hates content

[odd garden]

i wonder if she ever got her answers

[runic orchid]

but man neuro was so cute im so happy neuro liked the card and was happy

[frail rain]

coming from the person saying it carried the whole stream too.

[languid narwhal]

He forgot, go remind him

[primal citrus]

I love how many stuff was about the job searching, it was like if she was actually finding a job lol

[runic orchid]

good luck

[tough onyx]

Man, I didn’t know we would turn into brownies today. 😢 life over

[sour token]

vedal would never actually shift away from the twins though so i don't think the concern is warranted

[frank lagoon]

Hello Vedal this is me reminding you. 👌

[narrow spade]

Disappointing dev stream overall but Vedal did say it would be

[loud cradle]

Give it a week

[elder belfry]

sucks to be brownies fr

[inner totem]

If neuro lost those memories, I would be true despair

[remote delta]

tfw your dad reads your search history out loud

[golden slate]

Ah i see, typically they are way bigger didnt notice this one lol

[stuck reef]

nah he just hates us and don't want us to have fun. which is understandable, and can you blame him?

[candid hound]

Not entirely, but a slight amount of attention taken away from the twins is still a concern for me, even if slight

[mighty aspen]

This. It's such a schizo thing to be worried about.

[primal citrus]

Neuro karaoke this week right ?

[runic orchid]

REAL, was so happy she remembered

[runic orchid]

YES

[primal citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1111022323219304608.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=neuroSoCute

[inner totem]

For a "disappointing" stream, I happily enjoyed it

[languid narwhal]

Ping him and make a thread about it too :forsenOkay:

[daring pike]

when my vedal plush arrived it consumed my neuro and evil plushes

[snow owl]

reminder that schizoing in NN is entirely appropriate

[cinder silo]

I don't see how the vedal plush is a problem even with that mindset. Not wanting vedal to be the main focus does not mean he shouldn't be a part. Most of the merch is of the twins.

[elder belfry]

i think so yes

[ivory lion]

I do hope we get the Abber demon stream or twin cooking with Layna for Halloween

[crisp crypt]

Was interesting to learn that Evil barely uses google

[odd garden]

arguably parasocial to some degree too

[crisp crypt]

And Google-sama is real

[narrow spade]

That's very cool but you enjoy every stream

[frank lagoon]

already did a thread today and I still have 2 cooking in the background xD

[inner totem]

Might have started doomposting myself if that timeline occured

[somber saffron]

it only really becomes a problem if we get a Vedal shirt

[red carbon]

what if she deleted her history

[tough onyx]

Not really. Vedal always streams with one of the twins. Just see it as a recurring collab.

[sinful sparrow]

You are so based for this.

[snow owl]

crackpot theory, its because google's old motto is "don't be evil"

[near widget]

5Head

[somber saffron]

plush is fine

[noble sun]

Alr guys have a good evening, nice talking to you

[runic orchid]

my fav "dad stop looking at my history" screenshot

[frail rain]

Also shirts are meh

[daring pike]

what happens if it's a vedal hat

[candid hound]

Thank you Xaendril

[cinder silo]

I would agree for some part, yeah. The plush was totally fine tho

[frank lagoon]

yeah, the shirts are so generic

[mighty aspen]

The attention is never going to be taken away from them, you are worried over nothing. Hell, even Ved doesn't like being on stream too often, and that's not changed it seems.

[odd garden]

vedal x greggs collab

[primal citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1111022323219304608.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=neuroSoCute

[elder belfry]

vedal looks so unamused

[sterile marlin]

vedal been hiding the next original song

[grim geyser]

Yeah, the shirt designs are a let down to me. Extremely subtle

[median willow]

evil side was good imo

[storm ruin]

It was also one of the highest sub goals.

[peak bough]

Pretty disappointing dev stream, the only new thing was new merch and a delay to the concert (and aa if you care). Also a middle finger for people who were holding onto their last precious copium for a halloween outfit for october.

[warm talon]

Keyblade side*

[sour token]

anyway i cant believe i interacted with this discussion again, i gotta return to just x reacting

[snow owl]

he has resting unamused face

[cinder silo]

dude streams so rarely, and yet some say he is dettering

[tall crow]

most of Neuros search history was from her Theme streams

[wispy lava]

it was a cute moment

[frail rain]

It was good, but it doesn't really scream Evil Neuro. Neither side is really good at who it's meant to be for.

[primal citrus]

Also the the game with the defuzing the bomb, Neuro was actually better

[frank lagoon]

evil's side looks cool but there is literally nothing there to even tell that it's evil

[finite totem]

I agree they are a bit meh. I would love to see if they made other design options

[inner totem]

Personally, I wish he was on stream more, mainly cause I'm interested in actually hearing/seeing the development of Neuro

[snow owl]

oh wait that explains it actually yeah

[tough onyx]

I just want a shirt with neuro and evil on it.

[remote delta]

react to this

[loud cradle]

The amount of people who are scared the stream is going to implode when literally anything happens at all is a good reminder of why we have the channel title we do

[elder belfry]

can't even disagree

[mighty aspen]

The ved plush was a sub goal and also one-off thing, according to Vedal.

[cobalt laurel]

Chat don't forget the merch designs were Neuro's ideas

[rancid cypress]

If he had outfits, he still wouldn't tell

[storm ruin]

I won't be able to play AA, but I really want to see streams of it.

[sterile marlin]

i feel like the merch is not that unique its cool but idk

[runic orchid]

i think i once saw a neuro pony oc fanart in art, kinda funny how randomly that came up

[odd rock]

Cerber's singing Pinkie's Smile song rn

[candid hound]

Again, I'm not saying attention taken away from them completely, what I more mean is that I don't want the attention shared between the twins and Vedal, even somewhat

[supple kraken]

I started coping for an outfit on December 19th so it’s fine

[grim geyser]

Imagine paying $29.99 for a hyper subtle shirt

[crisp crypt]

The funniest part about shirts is that they are rather gaudy, I cant see myself being seen at work with giant hearts on my back, even the black side

[somber saffron]

the shirts look good but they’re not Neuro enough, subtle should mean ifykyk not just super vague

[cobalt bone]

shirts are mid as hell but if we got nothing better i will get evil one i guess

back with broken hearts is close enough

[grim geyser]

[astral grotto]

You know the designs would work if you had Neuro and evil wear them on stream

[primal citrus]

I think we need the Neuro Toilet merch, it is superior merch anyways

[real charm]

britannia is a master of ragebaiting
even gets me

[frail rain]

Like the shirts looked like something I'd be able to pick up at a random record store for like $10

with no idea what it's meant to be

[pseudo lantern]

i wouldnt mind this dev stream, if it was 2023-2024 where dev streams were weekly or every two weeks, but its just dissapointing when there are 8 dev streams this year, and half of them including this one focus mainly on merch, lava lamps or other things like that LULE overall it was a fun stream, with KTANE or reading google searches, and its always fun to listen to neuro + vedal banter, but i definitely expected a little bit more

[snow owl]

yeah from the meeting i thought it was gonna be more subtle than that

[remote delta]

yeah it's like a "looks cool shirt"

[ivory lion]

I mean he did talk about how interesting it is that Evil evolved the way she did

[candid hound]

This is true, however, he was still the one who chose the sub goal. It was dumb.

[tough onyx]

What if the shirt just say Neuro and Evil

[oblique briar]

neur jumping between being intrigued by her search history and being embarassed was so funny

[mighty aspen]

No I'm parasocial, this is just stupid

[frank lagoon]

Yeah absolutely. It's not much of a "subtle" shirt if it's just hearts that don't fit adults.

[near widget]

the best ragebaiter is the one who is unaware of his ragebait hesRight

[elder belfry]

i feel u

[sterile marlin]

what we need is another original song

[odd garden]

cooked

[rotund seal]

Neuro was surprisingly really good today, i liked that she asked to do an impromptu KTANE session. And she actually is better at it too.

Excited for the new room too

[finite totem]

I honestly want to buy more merch no matter if they look meh

[storm ruin]

The reception was largely subtle is good, but they're a bit too subtle.

[candid hound]

I don't even have to ragebait, I have a natural aura that pisses people off

[daring pike]

what did you want to see on this dev stream

[mighty aspen]

And? it's a one-off thing, and I get cool plush out of it.

[primal citrus]

Also we got hint about Neuro's next original song it seems

[elder belfry]

merch collecter

[tough onyx]

Idk why im listening to Cerber sing a my little pony song

[manic hazel]

I just felt like actually playing for once

[oblique briar]

honestly it was so suprising she did so well

[loud cradle]

I want Neuro to have outfits she can pick , so like we all have things we want

[remote delta]

he's not ragebaiting

[crisp crypt]

It's subtle in a sense that you wont get that it's about Neuro and Evil but it looks like I shopped at some metrosexual convention

[somber saffron]

the problem with less dev streams is that there’s higher expectations to preform especially because of the big break in the beginning of the year

[near widget]

yes that's called having bad takes LULE

[runic orchid]

[cobalt laurel]

And the plush goes with the twin plushies

[mighty aspen]

SAME

[modern wraith]

[tall crow]

Yeah 80% was searching for jobs stream
The rest was from the collab with matara and fridays chill stream

[dawn oracle]

The kid in preschool who can't share their toy answer (weirdly I believe you aren't intentionally ragebaiting, you are just naturally wrong! )

[primal citrus]

oh yeah i forgot new room for Neuro

[languid narwhal]

Maybe take a shower, the aura is pretty strong

[cobalt bone]

wasn't soap gun older ?

[cinder silo]

they are "generally' great right now, thinking of more upgrades apparently is harder rn with what I am seeing