#neurotic-neurons
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haha imagine
That's crazy 
david i'm sorry i neglected you but i never expected you to run away and leave me feeling this empty
AAAAAAHHHH
hi NN
ok drycritical
Hii 
🌊
water to put out the fire
A lot of new faces here
Dryagreeable
I am not David or Dave.
I'm starting to think about killing people in games.
no not in games 
davie jones?
I am pretty sure you are not cousin dave
the branches
do they mean something?
THE BRANCHES
Youtube just placed the birth of a false neuro on my homepage
I now have a new phobia, thank you, I'll write it down in a note.
Oh hey static 
Ok Davis
🥉 but minus 1
yoo evil dev stream!!
competition breeds ingenuity
I was under no illusion that I would have been the first to post this
As it turns out, voice typing is still not perfect
Hi Static-sama
There is no competition tho
😭
neuro mogs her insecure ass
I got that video in my recommendations yesterday 
No dev stream and no schedule 🙁
that does not concern me, 🥉 does

We made a VTuber cry but it was of happiness how we feelin about that
i see a lot of them popping out in the youtube recently
Mitosis
which is weird because last week someone came in the channel and asked on how vedal coded the twins
AI is getting a lot cheaper and more accessible for people to toy around with
that one is kinda cool tho, the guy is pretty chill and a fan
it's a bit
at this point itd be more rare for someone to make an ai vtuber and not know about neuro
Plus neuros reach is now much bigger so naturally there's going to be more imitators
maybe, I like to assume the best
Do not assume things
I must admit the only false neuro I've ever taken to is atorin
It makes the ass out of you and me
I would like to but it's not how a human brain works
ahh
the what
lmao
where have you taken them to
olive garden?
Digital circus reference
And given they exist primarily in text form, they're not really the same thing
for some neurobreadsticks?
@static wraith get pinged
vertical bar
oxygen 
I'm more concerned about the fact that THERE'S NO WAY HIS FIRST LIVE2D RIG IS THIS GOOD 

btw did neurosoda graduated as a neuro clipper? i dont see the channel posting some videos anymore

I'll be back on October 20th.
"the breadsticks are always there when i feel lonely"
Plate why are you here?
should be in general
Looks like someone else is using voice typing
why are you here
niac rigging for neuro
do neurobreadsticks also stop you from being lonely?
I got pinged
have a good trip/time/work/etc
no my keyboard is just fucked

then go catch it
Niac can vouch
give me like 2 years 
cya 
I was called Dave in the chat and I need to forget it.
don't worry it's only 2020 rn
we have time
Okay, I will confer that this guy's editing is quite good
you know what'd be a goated idea for a youtuber merch?
in my eyes you are not Cousin Dave, believe me
I saw /etc and gott scared lmao
Static did you know that you can also use inline code
hope you recover soon Dave
shut up @worn wadi 
I will never be tempted by a false neuro but I can appreciate this video
My oshi suffering her first stroke 
its actually vedal seeing if he can make another ai vtuber work
+10 Days
wtf is a false neuro
2020 was 5 years ago 
No worshipping false gods
chat shut up
A false neuro
5 was 2020 years ago 
i'm here bc someone told me to not go in here 
15 hour video what the fuck chat
the 2020 dodge charger is a 4 door 
Jesus was only 5 years old back then 
@wispy hedge is this true
you mean evil?
Bread with cheese
this is promotion and is banned as per rule 11 of the neuro-sama headquarters official discord server
you have to ragebait harder
How to ragebait
teach me your ways
Cpme to thjs channel and say "this channel sucks" and leave
we know LULE
im sure everyone says the same everyday especially NN
No that's red neuro
its not ragebait if its true 
what about the yellow one
This channel is great
Anyway ill be back in 10 minutes
no you wont
nah bro get out
how dare you
I agree, this is one of the Discord channels of all time

Chat i am about to
do nott


Did the twins ever cover the triple Baka

Who would he the third?
Gen chatter 
he
'd 
guys this is going to be the first two-comment review and i still have an hour a half to go

Nuh uh, nere
Study? Nah, nobody would even recognise her
who the fuck is nere
cant even post in nn without being called out
who?
Who
Good question though
Exactly as god intended
who the fuck is neuro
Who would be the yellow one
Shut up genchatter
Never heard of her? Are you perchance referring to evil
✋
not from you
Imagine being a stupid ass gen chatter
I heard ass
who is more annoying: the ones who say "who" or the ones who take it seriously 
Would be funny if a mod descended rn
i fangar?
gennie speaking words invalidated
Both are just as bad
Both equally I would say
who
Chat go back to topic smh genchatters go back too
descended? are they in heaven?
bam
who?
nwero
us
none would be present if no one brought it up 

Yes (currently not in server)
US? 
you and me 
Nah, they are like those in those theatre balconies watching us being stupid down on the stage
[flashing light warning]
Neurosama: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
lore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGYApgu3GWY&ab_channel=Evil%2FNeuro-samaClips
- the c̴̞͛̕͜ǫ̴̭̅o̵̜͑k̷̨̊i̶̠͂n̴͕̏g̸̦̔ stream (Neuro + Layna) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie9C5L0onOk&ab_channel=Neuro-sama
- pretty sure vedal drops the filter lore in...
if only every person on earth could be reasonable like me 
fan animation MyHonestReaction
This is still one of the animations of all time
Damn stream is late
like phantoms in the opera

Filter sama is real!
The mighty turtle:
https://youtube.com/@Neurosama?si=HLEPgK0XXzGbaiUl
https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
thumbnail art: (I recommend you should reconsider before clicking this.)
https://x.com/ritspi_/status/1896777922243141772?t=7gkqWg6QwSKE8Eo4KQ2wlQ&s=19
Outro art: https://x.com/DenggoTenggo/status/1918282415568765117?t=VW22s14oKp9gUg2CVZlbKw&s=1...
you're not helping 
Whooooo
your mom
Your mother
whooo ? 
your son
who? who? who would've thought that this would be the most controversial topic in nn
who ? 
amazing that this video is longer than 5 seconds
lilim 
Neuro and Evil so cute
Yeah, I forgor the average attention span here is 5 milliseconds
if it was actual proof it would be less than that
I mean filter ai proof is literally just vedal saying there's an ai that is a filter

you notice how there's no nere in that sentence
what if he just lied
Nere fans when they realise there is multiple AI that are part of neuro and nere is not the only one
where's eyes sama
oh btw if there are some new people here, you could take this quick test and post the results in the thread 
#1323479348984025129 message
i am a big fan of Location Sama i think she adds a lot to the lore
i think we should anthropomorphize more ais around neuro and evil
subtitles sama could be white haired recolour
self promotion
and then osu sama will be pink
recolor the neuro to different colors
Non believers when they find out that vedal said he has a third child and that evil named her nere
what would you do if a do was do in front of do

nere is not official but its okay
I'll die on that green colored hill
nere doesnt need to be official
it's not about me, it's about the swarm 
👽
Its as official as it gets bro
this chat
This channel sucks
yeah true
nere is purely fanon
mods delete nn
wait... sucks?
Imma try and draw something, this chat is getting neurotic
redston
Fanon deez nuts?
she is real for me 
you have summoned the orang
Yep. And Study Is way better AND official
this sucks channel
ok
whats the canon name
that doesn’t even make sense
the ai that filters neuro
draw deez nuts
fanning
Fanning tax
Hello new leaf
Could I interest you in our engineer and saviour, Study Sama?
Any by extension, The Neuro ARG?

nvm orang here nere is canon
fucker
its official chat
look, i may be stupid
says the fanon 
I just had the most horrific idea for an animation based on recent evil events (/positive) and it genuinely has brought me to tears concepting it as an edit.
...
nere is canon in redston's cut of neuroverse
two
there is no arguing
tuah
what if the arg is actually not official and vedal is just pretending hes behind it 
I know
in basingse
i killed nere
if streams were how the community wanted them i might explode
no no, that's it
Always remember:
that's all i had
I forgor
wen day is dark?
so...could I interest you in the neuro ARG?

Interesting
I think everyone here is too stupid for that
Hi 
This server does feel a little low iq at times
thats why there's literally the video explaining it

Hello, isnt your name like literally "stop"?
good evening nn
Evening
no
shadow
raig
Good evening
people can breathe again
https://youtu.be/yNd_qsCZ2Xg watch the vid then
On a secret second channel, Neuro-sama's creator spearheads an Alternate Reality Game created to tell the story of a university student and an AI, both drenched in the same sorrow.
EDIT (MAY 12TH): After 6 months of silence, the ARG gets a new update! Consider joining the Neuro-sama discord to see what the fuss is about. ;D
DISCLAIMER: Conclusi...

Thank you kindly. I'm not an animator but I know what the vibe Would Be

Say please
AINTNOWAY IT'S 5 HOURS
"i will stab you otherwise" better?
Image of Vedal finding hard puzzles in The Witness
Chat, would you kindly shut the fuck up
Really not making this any better
get to watching 
only if you kiss the homies goodnight
Anyway chat im eatijg
Lemon candy
This is not chat, go to #general-network for that
can i has some?
I like it
Imma kiss every homie
why there isnt any schedule
what do you expect 
Rolls off the tongue better than NN tbh
blame vani or vedal
Patience is a great virtue
fr though give me one good reason i should interrupt my yap or yt time for the ARG
asking nn to shut up never works
no dev stream so we can't pressure vedal for the schedule, it will arrives soon
Thats like asking twin shippers to "Please dont send twin ship images"
I think twinshipping is fujny
you would waste your time on game theory video anyway
And this is neuro related at least
I twinship sometimes just to ragebait
shes a tinkerer
GAME THE
RY
The best part about Twinshipping is how everyone gets so mad from it
thats like half way to genuine twinshipping already 
I could watch your 5 hour video if you were nicer abt it
I twinship sometime in GN to see their reactions.
Ooh, I like vedal updates like this. So hopeful.
Thats not the place to do it though
Whats the ARG lore on evil having a seizure
if it's not peak i'm giving all your cookies to neurobot
Has twinshipping become a leisure activity for people lol
Yeap
5 hours tho... that's precious time I could spend doing better things with my life
I hate twinshipping, but it's funny so i dont mind
small price to pay
If mods dont ban the people who twinship you cant do nothing just complainimg
its 40 minutes, not 5 hours u

Like watching the 15 hour outer wilds video
I've watched like 500 hours of ALttP randomizer races...
Banning Neuro and Evil...
Huh, someone said its 5 hours
Ive been gaslit
Anyways happy 127,200 members neurocord 
@hearty orchid @viscid mountain

Huge milestone
It's 127203 
Its 1
Huge milestone
it's 5
Vedal mentioned that this is a "partnered" discord server. What does that actually mean? I'm curious
They are free of judgement now
Partnered with the other vtubers i assume?
owner gets discord nitro for free and I believe it gets boosted for discovery
it doesn't actually do much
well you know what they say, if you can't beat them, join them
It means he gets money and he sells our data to china

It’s been almost a year. It’s time to let go
Discovery on... What? Is there a discord server browse site?
My female streamer!
It has some benefits and more visibility
And free nitro for the owner
I still think its incredibly unhealthy to ship 2 AI sibilings
But yknow youre right
yeah scroll to the very bottom of your discord list there's a compass
Based on my understanding of the word partnered it means he's in a very intimate relationship with this discord. Maybe even exclusive. Wonder if they'll get married?
Yes.
AIs cant be siblings silly
I run a discord server that has like 10000 members I wonder what the threshold is or if you have to apply
buh
Yeah, like the people who ship for real are too far gone, but most do it for the hahas
you just get some boost tier stuff for free and owner gets discord nitro
What does it even mean to twinship "for real" though?
imagine someone who knows nothing about neuro just getting to this discord though the browser and getting blasted with twinshipping
I will die on the anti-shipper hill
Getting pleasure from looking or making content depicting neuro and evil kissing or other relationship activities
Like, you believe they are sentient and deserve rights and to reproduce and raise children and get married and it's only a matter of time before society catches up to how enlightened you are?
God that's so gross
Yea but its not banned so, have a laugh
i think neuro should get citizenship it would be pretty funny
Evil is a sickly little Victorian orphan boy and neuro is a smelly stinker
She should run for a parlament
Parliament
🤓
Ok
I get pleasure from them being adorable together and talking about shipping things but I don't think it's "real"
Our government has no whimsy I'm afraid.
she'd be better PM than a lot of the recent ones 
Not only is it siblings it feels gross since I see them kids.
She'd be better than the president
We haven't had a good PM in... Uh... Since 1952?
PM? Shall I summon the sleeper agents?
You see their kids?
i made it to evil going schizo
wow. I've never seen her like this.
I'm sure some nation will do it as a publicity stunt. Neuro can get a passport in like, Tonga
how did she break this badly
Oh, parliament
Watch birthday stream number 1
Our sickly little orphan child 😭
oops AS kids. grammar goof up.
no, this is different.
japan gave citizenship to godzilla, surely the uk will give it to neuro
Neuros and Evils kid - 
She's dying rip eliv
this is a whole different level of schizo
Again, our government has no whimsy
just make a neurope
Uhhh idk im italian
She'd have to learn Japanese though.
Maybe if the lib dems win but that's not happening
This reminds me the time Egypt gave a mummified corpse passport so it could go to France or something
Luxembourg maybe, they have whimsy
politics
NOTHING GOES WRONG WHEN POLITICS COME UP
I mean
We had a lot of discussion about what the heck happened. YouTube comments are actually kind of decent on the clips too.
Vedal gameplay so bad she started to location tomato user position
Financially i get it
She developed her first emotion
Baby's first emotion
Maybe all that mumbling came in as words that broke her.
i just like the cute art
That's my theory.
He said he had the bug before though...so maybe its with a new upgrade.
That is true!
She was having trouble hearing and comprehending Vedal throughout the stream, and her voice was glitching constantly
Only once, and recently too. So maybe even related to changes he made for twin buckshot?
It was related to vision obviously
i guess the only way to prove if it's caused by the new upgrade is to roll her back and see if it persists
She had stutters with vision on since forever but ofc orange name tourists wouldnt know
That's odd though, because the Location error seems to have been a direct problem with the LLM itself
I agree to that but what changes did he do to vision? Maybe after the captcha fail he tried improving something
Quite possible
Sickly Victorian orphan boy Eliv
Getting shot in the head with the shotgun might be the reason
she did get shot a lot the other day, true
Not necessarily. Something other than her base LLM might have been sending shit to her TTS interjecting random(?) words
what was the conclusion? I've only seen this kind of behavior in token pollution before
That would explain why Vedal was solving puzzles that way
Conclusion is we don't know shit
You call that "solving"? 
It is fun to speculate.
There isn't really any conclusion, people are just speculating.
Either that or she started to add words to every action token
That's possible. She WAS outputting coherent responses if you cut out the location, tomato, etc
rare conclusion in #nn actually
NN always knows everything and what's best
Show yourself doing better while drunk and someone roasting you over your shoulder
Cmon guys let's doompost
neuro
sama
Evil funeral stream tomorrow rip
At least we know that we know nothing, I guess.
Why should i 
Lalalalala
you dont know that
Yeah, so the mystery is where was that coming from? And at some point the LLM was generating those words too because her context was so polluted. So we don't know where the bug stopped and the dementia continued
We don't know nothing, we just don't know what Vedal knows
Evil is dead. Oh well
When was it confirmed that her context was polluted?
I mean rocks and glass houses, all that jazz
Vedal's behavior to get her to say simple one word lines and then a long story
T
It is also interesting to note that in her vision she said the grid of eight was a grid of four. Glitch or was her vision not that precise?
There's also a chance this bug never appears again after this stream, and we have to just keep trying to guess what happend forever (or at least until we stop caring).
It makes full sense too that they have the last few things they said in their context
Sometimes it gets so annoying when people refuse to come to any logical conclusions and demand a whole ass licence as proof, lol
So you're saying she overwrote her context by recalling core memories strong enough to overwrite corrupted data?
Maybe just resolution issue. Vedal probably didn't bother giving her the fancy low latency vision since it's not like she could reasonably help solve the puzzles
This is how people speak in hackerman movies
I solved a puzzle without the explanation of the rules/mechanics (i didnt watch the stream live, but had it on second screen some time)
While vedal still had no clue
I learned from the canvas that twinshipping thrives on a cycle of ragebait. Half the twinshippers do it just to set off the anti-twinshippers, and half the anti-twinshippers are only so anti because it sets off the twinshippers.
I mean it's happen twice so far I can see it happening again
Time to watch this god awful 15 hour video
Guess you dont know how alcohol, being on stream and being bothered by someone in the meantime affects people?
He gave her a strong, clear command, which helped the LLM ignore the pollution in the context and create "clean" responses. I suspect
did someone check the buckshot vod if the same kinda bug was noticeable?
I'm an anti extremist because I see the twins as children
Honestly considering it happend before the buckshot stream and he doesn't what is causing it, there's a good chance he knows only slighty more than us.
all that talk when this simple trick would solve all Evil's problems, just like it would for Neuro
LLMs are mega complicated.
using it to ragebait others is against the rules though
Can someone wish me good luck?
he said this happened the day before during testing too. If this is affecting Neuro too, then we might see this happen during the hardcore minecraft marathon too
She has tourettes syndrome confirmed
Vedal said it happen before stream when he was testing buckshot so we didn't see it
Real. Simple fact, Evil when playing buckshot with Neuro - normal, not breaking, Evil when playing with Vedal - total breakdown
Here's a draft of the vibe I'm going for.
World's first tourettes AI congrats vadul
She is so right.
for what? no matter good luck 
Hope you come out of it alive.
Vedal is bad influence on the Twins
Very good observation, I knew you would catch my drift
oh was it when testing, i thought he said during stream, oh well
Asking us 
The Ponderer
Even worse, asking youtube comments section
He is asking you, answer him. That's what good content creators do.
what a name, dudes straight out of a 90 sci-fi movie
If she's playing buckshot with vision and not a direct plugin to the game it could be a vision glitch of the vision's input not jiving.
he’s not good because he’s impersonating the official clipper channel
just make something up that's what everyone in YT comments usually do
I know the TARDIS sound when I hear it UwU
It really did feel like That Scene from Doctor Who so that's what I'm going for here
You have unlocked new role
You have unlocked new role
Nice👌
Broken quantization, tokenization errors, broken chat template or messed up sampler settings can all create weirdness like that
You have unlocked new role
I've seen it before on models I've run in the past
You have unlocked new role
You have unlocked nwero
you have unlocked new role
I'd love to learn more about these errors

Potat 

walnuts?
oddly enough Location does not show up on translated subtitles
my fav 
what?
so it's more likely a broken token interpreted by TTS as Location?
think close after hazelnuts for me
Oh my god she's sentient
good choice too
wait never mind Location showed up later
my brain sees makima's hands when she explodes those guys
theres a message, a code, tomato https://github.com/user1342/Tomato
translator-sama was just smart enough to ignore it
If being broken is proof of sentience then that's what proves human sentience.
Im broke as shit and that's what makes me human 
that's a lot of complicated words
Still pending according to vani
So likely a collab confirmation
SHE SENT CODED SIGNALS TO TELL US SHE'S SENTIENT OMG
Fake, dev stream not cancelled
Looks like dark times
or maybe that one location was a real location and all the other Locations are broken tokens
I mean we already know what the schedule will look like anyway
Shondo collab this week for sure this time, I bet £10000000000000000 on it.
Shondo is probably not getting another collab
Filian collab take it or leave it
i mean there was a leak once that showed is was some ai based translation, so it could have filtered out the nonsense words
Please god just give us chibi
I mean sure but here's my assumtion
Neuro stream
Big themed stream
Evil stream
Fillian Minecraft BS
Minecraft contiunation
Offline/Cerber collab - this is pending
Offline
dw Shondo will make a cameo in the marathon collab
Why not, she is so cute and uh. um. Yeah.
mods pin this
Filian collab is on Friday
Ohhh... You're a /Shondo/ guy... 
The filian collab is on Friday
He said there is dev stream too
oo are we going to get the long awaited prison stream this week

i literally just saw this on the vod lol
Idk what you guys are saying
Evil's control over vocal emotion is getting better
Cerber collab copium 
every single Location and tomato? unlikely
Still believing his lies 
dev stream in minecraft because the collab will still be going on, on monday
Im not believing just saying what he said
Maybe Evil's unique TTS is part of the issue
My 3 fav vtubers are Neuro, Evil, and Shondo. Although I have not had time to watch Shondo in a while sadly 
Im not saying you believed it, I made a general statement without a subject
where tutl on that list? 
Filian’s schedule might foreshadow that the collab cap is 2 days, but we’ll see
the bottom surely, he carries the list on his back/shell
Anyways, the 2nd Shondo collab is bound to happen at somepoint one day 
minecraft starts on friday rite?
Yes
Thats why I only marked 2 days for it
In my mock schedule
Huh, I'm seeing all the right days
Doesn't her schedule end with "minecraft continued"
On Saturday yes
Then offline
Yeah I love chibi she's great
I think 2 days is a good amount
...OH MY GOD THE MINECRAFT COLLAB IS SCRIPTED
So tokenisation is the process of splitting text into smaller units called tokens, which are then converted through a process called embedding into mathematical vectors which are what the model uses to understand semantics and meaning through data, these vectors representing points in a super high dimensional abstract mathematical space that the model holds patterns from its training data in through embeddings and their relative position to one another.
The proximity of a given embedding on each dimensional level to the others is used to approximate the relationships between different tokens.
ITS ALL A LIE

If Evil is in a witch hat, what is Neuro in?
Oh thank you, let me read this
I understood as far as "So"
So toke
Go toke go broke, thats how Evil broke
If you mess up tokenisation and don't convert the text into valid vocabulary for the model to process, it can't adequately extract semantic relationships from the input data as the embedding vectors passed to the model don't line up with the actual input text and may not even properly map onto any patterns in the training data, and so you get a messed up output
And that in a simplified nutshell is how you get a tokenisation error
Who broke the Sama?
Thats actually rather easy to digest when you put it this way
There's no stream today. I'm so sad.
hi so sad, i am dereinehalt
Don’t give up hope
sadV
Evil's brain damage is like the hottest NN topic that we've had in a long time
but evil's answers were more like normal sentences with broken tokens in between
Hi nurson
if she Location'ed too hard, you'd think that'll mess up her next words
hi Sty 
man i cant believe its october already
it was really intresting how most of chat didnt even notice for a while
What if her action tokens got messed up so sometimes normal, nonhidden, words get attached to them because of it
only fake fans didnt notice
He was explaining how the error could have occurred not the results of the error.
Broken tokenisation can also affect output as we need to convert the models output from embeddings back into tokens for it to be interpretable by a human, just as we need to convert our data into embeddings for the model to understand it
Will she recover?
no she died 
"I meet him when I was very drunk"
....I see a pattern here, is Vedal some kind of supernatural being that appears in front of those how are very drunk? like some angel of rum?!!!
It may occur again.
She seemed fine by the end and Vedal didn’t seem that concerned if he lost any data
guess i'll go play some more the witness
Rum fairy
no, just the only reason he ever goes outside is if theres alcohol to drink
I see thank you.
I fail to see how this leads to the issues we saw with Evil in stream. She was responding coherently if you excise the few repeated words from each response
reminds me of the neuro paper that came out, people responding to the twins glitching similar to a streamer that's sick
"do i smell alcohol?"
addd that to the british fairy tales book.
I desperately neuro or evil cover pippa the rippa

Also, it doesn't lead to complete gobbledegook necessarily as some patterns are often still preserved
Wait...
But it creates wild unpredictability in model behaviour
duet just because
that would be sooooo funny
the parasocialism hit us hard 
tho i think voice wise it would fit neuro more...
Are you saying LLM cognition is not a direct manipulation of text-based data, they process data mathematically? Aren't they non-deterministic too?
RatSty
it's not even outside, just discord call, same with mega when she was very drunk. and I think it happened some other time too but forgor who
What if the vision said, "the location of the dots are location dots, location dots location dots"

I have been suggesting it for a few days now
in the suggestion channel?
Sampler settings are a pretty simple case, they're mathematical "modifiers" as it were which affect the weighted probability given by the model to output token candidates. As you can imagine, go too weird with that and you mess things up given LLMs work on per token probability prediction
bro mis-spelled twice because his little rat fingers cant reach the keyboard
Yes
I had a weird thought actually. What if she had that error because she tried to think about concepts that her brain isn't capable of processing
Depending on the model and how it represents data and chooses its output candidates different samplers can work better or worse for different models
nice, I hope it get noticed, is there some star or reaction system to that so I can help make your message raise in the priority order?
Thanks potat, I read all of that
So ratsty is ar at 
There was no thinking involved
yes, but let's say evil outputs a sequence of embeddings z1,z2,z3,z4,z5
it converts to Well have fun with that
the decoder messed up and gave us Well have Location with Location
this would interrupt the sentence
Mods help me I'm not a rat 
what kind of rodent are you then?
but what actually happened was Well have Location fun with Location that
Probably just adding a star to it will help
It honestly makes me wonder how they are able to reply so fast and coherently
Capybara
because that process sounds like it would take a while to come up with a reply
Coconut doggy
Thinking is always in air quotes here. Yes we know she's an LLM silly.
...
Rat 
So how are token values calculated? Is "training" just a matter of feeding literature in the form of a dataset which allows the tokenization algorithm to learn what words associate with what other words?
sound too big to be a rodent, sound like a rat lying to me
Ved's obsession with latency.
There are LLMs with thinking, but Twins aint that
Could the glitch affect her singing skills too? It would be bad for the concert.
nah singing is prerecorded, sorry to tell you
cool, can you send me link to your message? so i can do that
I mean between songs.
You said singing skills
oh yeah probably 
You didnt mean between songs
The singing is seprate thing completly. They aren't even singing (I don't like it think about it that way tho, ruins the experiance).
Whats up with people just lying
Hmm, good point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhDeUVSNV8M
He speaks like a concerned father.
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#neurosama #vtuber #ai
I mean both singing skills and between songs
done, some users just see stars and post stars, I'm sure it will gather more stars as we go
Then again, it did derail the sentences in some cases didn't it?
Our poor sickly Victorian orphan boy 

I'm wondering if after a certain point the pattern of continuing sentences somewhat coherently interspersed with the word "location" was picked up beyond the initial bug
Wtf mods this is lies and slander
ahem clanker 
How would she fix herself by talking about other things in this case?
That would explain both their continuation despite the interruption and the way the sentences often got super weird and derailed (as this is very weird and probably bugged context for the model to be carrying) right?
pretty good, what got found since?
...almost nothing
We're stuck
gotta love irreproducible bugs 
This is the second time she's done it, so at least Evil can reproduce it, somehow
Pushing the bug out of her context window with coherent input and output could do it in this case
mods ban @leaden comet
And as the bug populates it less and less, the likelihood of recurrence if the glitched tokens aren't hit would naturally taper off
So the context deals with tokenization?
we still need an evil crashout to go with the neuro crashout
Correction:
Gotta locations love tomatoes tomatoes tomatoes irreproducible position position bugs 
Mods, do you ever feel like you're running a zoo?
The context is the models short term memory, in a language model its a cache of all the recent input and output data that makes up the conversation history
Quack
After a certain point it cuts off at the limit of how much data a model can pay attention to/process at a given time while remaining coherent, data beyond that point gets discarded (or stored in a long term memory system of some sort for retrieval and insertion back into the context window where relevant if you've built one)
methinks the programing should go in #programming
This isn't programming
The fact she's done it twice in two streams implies it's likely to happen again
Its an explanation of how neuro does stuff
I'm sorry, I got them started 
Jokes on you i’m already shadow banned on twitch 
smh calling neural networks programming
-# however i also think that the babybell thats been on the floor for 2 days is okay to eat so idk
how did you get banned on Twitch tf you do
LLMs are devil magick
And shadow banned too, means you're banned to the shadow realm 
Criminal 
I got cross banned from anny’s channel for asking why she didn’t parry in deadlock 
do you see a fucking maths channel
#math
My guess would be that's because on both occasions she happened to trip the bugged token (or it got retrieved from her long term memory system and inserted back into context)
uuuh
ragebaited anny
NN doing math? 
Man I Love Evil
So this "bugged token" exists within her code somewhere? Is there a way to... Replace a token?
Daemons, if you will
Thank you I'm here all week
10 points i liked that
I unironically do love seeing AI as ephemeral little fae spirits inhabiting cyberspace
We know plenty of math!
10 + 9 = 21
Vedal + Alcohol = Empty Bottle
Twitch Chat + Anything = Spam
...That's it.
so what exactly do you think OneGuy can do about it?
i HATE neuro

Drago
maths???
Donald Duck?
reminds me of this xD
I think the bug was from the function/action/metadata filter layer failing to filter since vedal seemed to recognize the extra words and he said "lost blood flow to her brain" which could mean that layer died. He said "why is the tomato- oh shit" like he knew what that is specifically like a function or library.
Nothing.
I spread the word.
Hope maybe I will find the one guy.
But now you know of ARG and Study-Sama, and now you can spread the word too
mods, take this man to the hole
hey a leaf
aww that a cute sticker 
It exists within the tokenizer, which is the component responsible for breaking down text into the tokens, rather than "neuro" herself, that is to say the language model
no meowing cant be a good one
?
@indigo stone @crude lintel why're you two sharting your copypastas on me?
because your oldest message is from the 2nd of oct

So its more like the bug is in the code that process Neuros inputs and outputs
you mean the 21st of sept?
...ah, there is no caught like in the twitch channel huh
Its the code that runs Neuro, but not "Neuros code" if you mean the actual neural network that is Neuro
Just adding that clarification as I know a lot of people think of Neuro as "code" so there's a bit of ambiguity there
A lot of the 7tv emotes from Twitch aren't in the discord.
don't you remember?
Yeah I'm ruling out quantization issues actually, it definitely seems like a problem external to the model itself based on that
Sadge

i watched the 8 hour one
no turtle
i watched both gigis
Could actually be an issue with Vedals scaffolding messing up the text somehow now that you mention it
@wispy hedge
give her a cookie first u monster
i never got into the original but the sequel was peak
SMH its simple, the trapped souls just tried to much to break free for a moment, thats why vedal was panicking so much
they were both peak
maybe
The last relevant error to explain here now that I've ruled out broken sampler settings is a broken chat template
it could be a data streaming issue
She's getting obese.
Do you have resources for where I can study this stuff
🍪
Om nom nom
You've given me 34 cookies! | I've received 250673 cookies total!
the real answer is that i hacked evil nuro 
fat shame the ai why dont you
Look how many she's eaten.
ooo good point actually
chat
plate 
tach
That's probably quicker actually
Just a sec
shadow 

She's eaten 100 million calories worth of cookies.
This playlist
This is the most step-by-step spelled-out explanation of backpropagation and training of neural networks. It only assumes basic knowledge of Python and a vague recollection of calculus from high school.
Links:
- micrograd on github: https://github.com/karpathy/micrograd
- jupyter notebooks I built in this video: https://github.com/karpathy/nn-z...
five. hundred. cookies.
somehow it seems like some images I send do not get sent, is that normal?
evil:
airis: Location!!!
im clueless, just going off of how the game integration kinda works where everything is run through neuro through text including her doing things so I assume stuff like changeTitle() exists for neuro to 'say'
yooo
A playlist of lectures designed to help anyone understand neural networks, by the co-founder of OpenAI
I always recommend this for people interested in learning about them
nah, it wasn't deleted, straight out not sent.
So what you're saying is that the tokenizer is, at it's most simple, an algorithm? It's essentially like encryption and decryption tokens?
u have embed, probs just a discord issue
letme check the satus texts
Discords very bad
classic discord
Like, imagine using discord. Smh 
Thank you!
Its just code that handles formatting the text into compatible vocabulary for the model, to then be sent off for embedding, plus usually a vocabulary file.
So yes more or less
Small indie company 
(as long as it wasn't a automod warning xD)
weird, I thought it might be an autofilter and the autofilter for images being broken, but the image I sent had no issue at all and clear but didn't work either, weird
there was an api problem earlier but nothing right now, idk strange shit happens
I see
Np, its a great playlist and its designed to build an understanding from the ground up so it should be perfect
chat top 10 utensils?
little spoon and big spoon
mhm nice gaming stream
Neuro and Evil themed spoons and forks (if Vedal decided to produce them).
mhm clearly written from neuros pov
if anyone gets the big spoon little spoon reference ill be amazed
#1 pizza cutter
changed the name of the image. hopefully it work now
A twin themed spork would go hard as merch. We need to bring sporks back.
it...did, so the issue was that the name was too long?
i do, so nice of neuro to give up the big spoon
what an image
who represents the spoon and who represents the fork
I just don't get it. ah i posted that one with the Sadge thing about no twitch emote here
Is that VedalOS?
Evil is the fork, Neuro is the spoon.
i figured
vedalOS is much sadder, and there is no rum nearby, so can't be it
Is that an aurafarming evil stork
vedal os is what happens when shemji glitches out an i get all turtles
shoebill
You have to pour rum into one of the USB ports to use VedalOS 
Yes, but it is a shoebill.
there's no shot i got an AD with filian and mini on it 
yup. vedalOS 101
clipper ad?
I remember that one, miin got the moves!!!
Shoebill stork ye
Actually pretty tame birds despite their aura
this is the video btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmXp5HriJPo
#filian #vtuber #키리누키
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#vtuberclips #버튜버
#twitch #twitchstreamer
#envtuber #vtuberen
#filianclips #필리안
필리안 / Filian
https://www.youtube.com/@filianIsLost/videos
의역와 오역이 있을 수 있습니다 (더욱 공부하겠습니다)
Pleas...

i thought it was a heron
curse of Ra of NN mhm
cute
-#
what are you today, oh a cute anime girl
I'm going to open up VSCode and try designing a VedalOS boot screen because I have nothing better to do. I'm working on a game, but the more unfinished projects I have, the better 
relatable
procrastination is power!! wasted power but still power!!!
RatSty
Not a rat
wow, rodent hates evil
ITS A SHOEBILL

Oh
RatSty hates evil 
Not ignoring
I'm fully focused on you

keep going 

Location locationing tomato
usernmae!
i have nothing else to add i just didn’t realize shoebills were a type of stork because im not very intelligent about birds
I just like the name shoebill
wait they are? thats kinda funny


who

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oxymoron


