programming

[rough bloom]

not small

or fast

but

cheap

[olive sable]

this needs 65W or more to accept the usb-c power tho

[opaque wharf]

But it got battery

[olive sable]

the battery is useless if the lightcrafter and motor controller dont have power

[opaque wharf]

The lightcrafter and motor can still just be powered from the type c

[trim valve]

does it need the full 65w or just to negotiate it?

[olive sable]

yep

doesn't accept charge under 65W

[trim valve]

huh weird

[opaque wharf]

Most likely need the full 65W because that's how the charge controller works on most old laptop

[olive sable]

nah, this one isnt old

it accepts usb-c charge remember

[opaque wharf]

Ohh

[rough bloom]

separate charger for the laptop then

[opaque wharf]

I thought the 65W is throught a barrel connector or smth

Then usually no

[olive sable]

its a 15ITL05.

[trim valve]

tbh sam I am mildly tempted to tell you to make something that works first, then worry about making it small

[olive sable]

for something that works im just using my desktop

[opaque wharf]

Then do that

[olive sable]

no need to do shit with a laptop

im trying to

but my usb-c trigger board is fucked

but i think i fixed it maybe

and if not im jsut buying a new one

i wish amazon had the PD3.1 ones, but i can only find the 3.0 ones there. so ihave to buy on aliexpress and wait for international shipping

[real quail]

Got what my AI is doing-

[amber fractal]

Soup

[real quail]

Its creating a clean-rewrite doc by utlising all of the commands of other bots

Its js STUPIDLY SLOW

Nvm -

Its searching for 'waifus'

[olive sable]

[real quail]

I'm serious -

Now its searching for some minecraft player -

Somebody called 'Nezuko Kamado'

[amber fractal]

[real quail]

Its using my other browser
But I can see what its doing -

I have NO CLUE about what its doing atp -

[rigid snow]

[stark needle]

holy after calibration my speakers sound so good

the 3d-ness isnt just a blob but highly localized

like it's still not optimal but my setup is also shit

[floral hawk]

Sigh

[opaque wharf]

At least you can still purchase it. The government straight up blocked Aliexpress here

[olive sable]

i fixed the short

by scraping off the soldermask shit from the pcb and redoing my soldering

[opaque wharf]

Holy scuffed soldering

[olive sable]

soldergore

[opaque wharf]

@trim valve

[nocturne olive]

[olive sable]

its temporary

already bought a new one

[stark needle]

In afwachting van verzending

[olive sable]

ye

[sage crag]

bestelling geplaast

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

i missed a t

oh

hi t

[olive sable]

hi t

[tender river]

aardbeien

[olive sable]

the normal verb is plaatsen

you conjugate to the extra t form

[stark needle]

i agree completely with this statement

[olive sable]

the ge- puts it in past tense

[olive sable]

you shouldnt, its bad grammer

[stark needle]

idc

i cant even speak my own language

[olive sable]

fair

mnemonic

ezelsbruggetje

small donkey bridge

[sage crag]

🍓

[sage crag]

what does it mean

[olive sable]

bestelling geplaatst = order placed

[rough bloom]

USB-C to XT30

good

[sage crag]

order geplaatst

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

[olive sable]

the XT30 one is the one im soldering rn, i ordered a new one with 2 pin thingy

[sage crag]

im reading that like english by the way

[rough bloom]

oh

[olive sable]

why?

[rough bloom]

how tf did you mess up XT30

[olive sable]

i would need to buy a XT30 to 2pin adpater

[sage crag]

||aardbeien||

[olive sable]

so i just removed the connector

[rough bloom]

buy XT30 cable

cut cable

congrats you now have leads to connect to something

[olive sable]

why do that when i can jsut use 2pin?

[rough bloom]

less soldering

[sage crag]

buy knife

[rough bloom]

which is clearly

[sage crag]

cut knife

[rough bloom]

critical

[sage crag]

congrats you now have

two knife

[olive sable]

i jsut bought a new one with 2pin

which is also no soldering

[tender river]

kni not everyone is british

one knife is enough

for most of us

;

[sage crag]

2knife4life🔪

[olive sable]

idk how an enlgish person would read that

[rough bloom]

ye I'm not saying to buy a new XT30 cable now
that board is already far gone

I'm saying

should've just done that from the start

[sage crag]

i have a set of like 12 knives

and i only use 3 of them

[tender river]

i use

one knife

[sage crag]

geh pla aa tuh st

[olive sable]

oh

[stark needle]

[olive sable]

close enough

[sage crag]

bad

long knife for long

short knife for short

tall knife for big

obviously

[rough bloom]

tuh juh cuh buh

[sage crag]

shumi

勾搭 黑 化 女配 [穿書 ]

have this chinese from my clipboard

i dont remember what it says

probably a novel title

[rough bloom]

ye idk either

[sage crag]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bunny-fox-1

walnuts contain boron

this means walnuts are antidepressant

✅

[stark needle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fennec-fox-fennec-1

[sage crag]

eat 100g of walnut a day to

have stomach pain

depression cured

stomach also

nevermind

[tender river]

novel title ✅

[olive sable]

bəˈstɛlɪŋ ɣəˈplaːtst

[sage crag]

@mod

not english

ipa

automod evasion

[olive sable]

erm

i googled it

erm

[sage crag]

tgats english

[tender river]

annoying to translate me not do

[olive sable]

to google ai was eager to tell me what it meant when i searched it up

[sage crag]

buni buni buni buni buni

buni buni buni buni buni

oh i remember this novel

its so bad

quality of writing is poor

very poor

and

[stark needle]

[sage crag]

om i just remembered how the story diverges from beginning to end

om

its worth reading for how bad it is

[olive sable]

is it really worth reading " by the Blackened Female Supporting Character [Transmigration]"?

[tender river]

blackened as in

turn evil

[olive sable]

that makes sense actually

[sage crag]

buni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Pig

[tender river]

ye me

[sage crag]

ye

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

[olive sable]

i stopped it from shorting

[stark needle]

@sage crag this u? 📺

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

but like

how

[olive sable]

removing everything

[trim valve]

[olive sable]

i removed everything that could have shorted it

cuz i couldnt find the actual short

[tender river]

i once

brought electronics into my kindergarten

and the other kids short circuited it

[olive sable]

[tender river]

to be expected probably

[olive sable]

i once brought something i made with knex motors to class, and another kid took credit for it, so i beat him

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

[olive sable]

buying a XT30 cable would have cost money

just removing the connector is cheaper

[stark needle]

❌

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

: n e u r o C a t U u h :

[olive sable]

ok i tried 10V and that shorted it again

hmmm

the board might just be fucked

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

dont have children

[opaque wharf]

I would not be surprised in the slightest if that is the case

[olive sable]

hmm

when i s the new one arrivig?

10th of june

[opaque wharf]

Do you have spare PC PSU?

[olive sable]

nope

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

wait what

i didnt even see that message

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

[sage crag]

autismu

[tender river]

all opinions are of the commenters and do NOT reflect my employer's opinion

[kind nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1396703617557332100/1440165799892619358/RDT_20251117_1352425193672721056149856.gif

[sage crag]

can someone send the

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1460031442292703556.webp?size=48&animated=true

[olive sable]

the

[sage crag]

ye

that

the good version

[olive sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1460031442292703556.webp?size=96&animated=true

[tender river]

full ver

[opaque wharf]

You're employed now?

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

this chew

rename to :chip:

[rigid snow]

why chip

this chipped

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

ye chipped

but

:catEat: <- :chip:

[molten island]

imagine having 1000+ commits in your personal system configuration 😭

[tender river]

i have 334 and i update very rarely

[amber fractal]

flake.nix spotted, cause found

[tender river]

i have lots of external modules

[amber fractal]

I'm suprised how often I run into you when doing nix stuff

[tender river]

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

only nix user

1 user

[opaque wharf]

Cat

[sage crag]

eat

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/kobayashi-dragon-maid-kanna-kobayashi-anime-cute-gif-24018128

[rigid snow]

[kind nimbus]

Lol

[olive sable]

I FIXED IT

[flint dome]

my back hurts

[olive sable]

There is nothing left to short

[flint dome]

the building master busbar system got screwed

they fucked the cct ratio again

wtf these guys study electrical for

[molten island]

[stark needle]

god i need to commission some art for a mouse pad thingie

[flint dome]

oh my god bruh are we for real
they thought it is simple to just cap electricity draw just by flipping a switch even WHEN I FUCKING PAID FOR 5KVA

AND THEY STILL GIVE ME 1KVA

NOW THEY FUCKED THE ENTIRE CONTROL SYSTEM

if they installed a 250kva generator instead of 500kva I wouldnt be surprised

"It wont be an issue", they said, "just pay extra", they said

as if phase angle issues and current accuracy degradation doesn't exist

then they act all pikachu face when the amf panel nuisance trips

where the accl switch for each apartment mf where the extra busbar line for the premium paying users mf

im goibg to violently crash out

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

crash in

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

[olive sable]

Well, this was hard to solder to

[rigid snow]

that's absolutely fucking awful and i hope you consider giving up soldering

[olive sable]

im not soldering cuz i want to lol

it would help if my 6 euro soldering iron wasnt dented too

[opaque wharf]

Buy those fancy schmancy soldering iron with digital temperature control, idle detection, and anti static tips

[olive sable]

maybe i should lmao

[tender river]

implosion

[olive sable]

the problem is only 50% my lack of skill, the other 50% is this soldering equipment being cheap

[flint dome]

have you tried not overdosing on coffee

or guzzling beer if you drink it before soldering

[olive sable]

i dont drink coffee

[flint dome]

I've heard beer helps

in keeping steady hands

[opaque wharf]

https://youtu.be/prs1pWi3Z2w

[olive sable]

my hands are steady, the soldering iron's temperature is not

[flint dome]

mine isn't either but I solder anyways

I also use a cheapass ten dollar

[olive sable]

same, thats why yall are getting these abominations

[flint dome]

I soldered a qfn with that

was hard

(To be fair I borrowed a weller heat gun for that as well)

[olive sable]

there is a big dent in the tip of the soldering iron

[flint dome]

how

did you throw it against the wall

[olive sable]

no

i applied too much presure i gues

[flint dome]

can we get a photo of whatever horrors you did to it

[opaque wharf]

Bro how much pressure are you applying to dent a solid metal

[flint dome]

blud must have a soldering iron tip made of gallium

[flint dome]

this is actually impressive

[opaque wharf]

[olive sable]

[flint dome]

how do you even do that

[olive sable]

idk

[flint dome]

"idk" YOU DID IT, MY GUY??????????? FYM "IDK"??????????

[opaque wharf]

@trim valve look at more horror Sam has done

[flint dome]

oh yeah computed I had a question have you worked with sipeed stuff before

[opaque wharf]

I have yeah, just not their Tang FPGA stuff

[rough bloom]

???

[opaque wharf]

Sam got those gorilla strength hidden in him

[flint dome]

i looked at their gowin fpgas and they're hella cheap compared to any altera or xilinx

like somehow they're offering a worse altera cpld for the same price as a 20k cell fpga (Cyclone II EP2C5T144, Altera) vs (Tang Primer 20k, sodimm slot but ehhh we'll work with it)

[olive sable]

im pretty sure its just hollow on the inside

[opaque wharf]

For reference Sam, you don't put much pressure when soldering. Just about the same pressure as how you write with pen

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, I am a bit sus with their FPGA and haven't got disposable income to experiment with them yet

[flint dome]

like im lowkey considering buying its only 27$ for the sodimm plus 10$ extra for the breakout pcb ill have to make custom because my country has a massive hatred for alibaba

[flint dome]

I think their cheapest stuff goes for like 10$

there was also a local brand i remember that recently launched an arm soc + 1.2k cells fpga for as low as 4$

said they made their toolchain completely open too

[opaque wharf]

Have you seen how much IDR is compared to USD? I'm still figuring out how I will pay custom when my industrial controll stuff arrive

[flint dome]

inr is also going to hell compared to usd bro youre not alone it went from 80inr per usd to 95 inr per usd in two years alone

[opaque wharf]

We speedrun 16k to 20k in one year

[flint dome]

hmm I guess same inflation rate as ours seeing inr to idr hovers around 1:180 to 1:190 since ytd

[rose sleet]

I still don't understand why there are so many genius programmers here. Everyone else knows everything while I'm struggling with AI

[opaque wharf]

It is interesting to note however if I can purchase from China using Yuan then then I can get it for cheaper because IDR to CNY is stable

[flint dome]

try asking supplier direct then if you can send them yuan direct using wire transfer if they accept it

most likely they'll be happy to

[opaque wharf]

That's the plan, yeah

But I still need to deal with the current order

[flint dome]

hmmm yuan to inr is still mostly alright only went from 1:12 to 1:14

customs is a bitch here otherwise id do direct wire transfers too

then again direct wire might be hard because we share a border

[opaque wharf]

Well, in my case it is handled by UPS. But it's still a gamble when I receive the bill

[silent cloak]

AI is pretty much based on statistics math

Its very algorithm focused

Pick up a book on data structures and algorithms if u really wanna deep dive into that sort of work

[sage crag]

hi

hi

hi chat

hi

[flint dome]

nah here fedex or dhl is reliable ups just hands it over to local post service which is an expert at being inefficient

[sage crag]

hello

hi

[flint dome]

hi kon

[silent cloak]

SHUT UPPPP

[rigid snow]

byenny

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-roar-angry-mad-roaring-gif-22029339

[sage crag]

helo

[flint dome]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-gif-9889610048921079825

[sage crag]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bunny-fox-1

[silent cloak]

Show me your roar face

[sage crag]

<-

[rigid snow]

:з my roar face

[warped narwhal]

[stray dragon]

hi konii

[stray dragon]

hi \🔺\❗

[sage crag]

hi t

hi

hello

hi

hi

[rigid snow]

:pregnant_person: reacted by Cipher

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1425445907586879530/1507983441893789827/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_1.gif

[midnight sigil]

🫄

[silent cloak]

Who 𝜏

[stray dragon]

yes yes hi konii

[sage crag]

hi t

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

[rigid snow]

🐇

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-spy-spy-tf2-tf2spy-gif-19741465

[warped narwhal]

The pregnant man emoji got blocked? Tf did NN do to trigger that?

[sage crag]

featherless biped

[midnight sigil]

L automod

[silent cloak]

Vedal probably

[rigid snow]

me

you presumably

[sage crag]

🤼‍♀️

[rigid snow]

are tvs biped

[opaque wharf]

WHAT

That got automodded

[sage crag]

im bipedal usually

[silent cloak]

Pedal

Vedal

[opaque wharf]

If you add vedal before the emoji name it got automodded

[tender river]

hash

[opaque wharf]

So this is likely correct lmao

[sage crag]

👯‍♀️

[rigid snow]

vedal

[flint dome]

mpreg is banned

1984

[rigid snow]

not baned

lie

[silent cloak]

Literally 1984

[sage crag]

information state

[silent cloak]

Literally Jan 11 2023

[sage crag]

erm actually its the 3rd of may 2026

the 3st of may

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[opaque wharf]

[sage crag]

6nd of may

[silent cloak]

Its January 11th 2023

[sage crag]

2th of may

[silent cloak]

Neuro just got banned

[sage crag]

1th or 1nd of may

[rigid snow]

it's 148th of january 2026

[sage crag]

firth or firnd of may

[silent cloak]

Its shiros birthday

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

firnd

1nd is oned

[sage crag]

second secoth secost

[flint dome]

dont you just love it when you have to go to baidu cloud to get your documentation and scroll multiple pages of incomprehensible chinese to get your one single pdf

[sage crag]

oh and secod

[silent cloak]

1rd

[tender river]

🐟

[sage crag]

third thirnd thirth thirst

[sage crag]

fourd fournd fourth fourst

[rigid snow]

fird

[flint dome]

frorf

[rigid snow]

🐟 🐦

[sage crag]

fifd fifnd fifth fifst

[flint dome]

fufff

[silent cloak]

Grok is this true?

[sage crag]

sixd sixnd sixth sixst

sevend sevennd seventh sevenst

eighd eighnd eighth eighst

[rigid snow]

❌ 🦷 🔨

[sage crag]

nined ninend nineth ninest

[flint dome]

bro I JUST WANT MY FILE I DONT WANT YOUR FUCKING SHITTY SOFTWARE

[sage crag]

tend tennd tenth tenst

[silent cloak]

Literal malware page

[sage crag]

my teeth

broke eating hard bread

because someone hit me with a hammer

[flint dome]

the other alternative is a mega drive which never cooperates

[sage crag]

"broke my teeth eating hard bread because someone hit me with a hammer"

[rigid snow]

what about a giga drive

[flint dome]

drill your gums

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

this is funny to me i dont know why

[flint dome]

giga deez nuts

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

hey whays your number

its 1

and...?

thats it

[midnight sigil]

⭕

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

that alexander bell himself calling

[silent cloak]

1

[midnight sigil]

#programming -> #gaming

[silent cloak]

"Watson come here, i want you"

[sage crag]

th the helicopter seed pod

thay youspin leaf

✅

[rigid snow]

AAA

[sage crag]

in what context

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

car rescue

[silent cloak]

Its the first sentence over the phone

[sage crag]

very brave confession

[rigid snow]

lol

[silent cloak]

He must of been smoking a beer with his friends

[sage crag]

right

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

left

[flint dome]

https://tenor.com/view/ea-eeee-gif-23557277

[silent cloak]

EA Games (ruin everything....)

[sage crag]

thats ee eames to you

[flint dome]

wrong thats EE EEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[silent cloak]

Live reaction

[opaque wharf]

What about EA James?

[olive sable]

slop

[opaque wharf]

Ea Nasir then?

[olive sable]

EA james makes the EA games slop himself

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/ea-nasir-bad-copper-bad-copper-cuneiform-gif-14018688914056665713

[true hemlock]

[nocturne olive]

[opaque wharf]

@flint dome this channel is a very useful resource

https://youtu.be/Sxb5OBMA2zU

[flint dome]

thank you friend much appreciated

[teal cipher]

jesus... codex makes me feel like a project lead trying to get through with their instructions to some coder eating donuts... maybe this doesn't make any sense XD

[hoary lion]

Ugh came here to rant about AI harnesses
My plain claude code keeps getting crazy OOMs, ignoring the native pause shi

I can't be analyzing a harness just to do some harness shit

fuck, gotta crash my mac intentionally until I can profile ts

slop code at its finest ✅

[olive sable]

4mm, 13mm
18mm, 32mm, 48mm, 10mm
14mm, 28mm, 49mm, 7mm

48mm

[bitter phoenix]

gpt 5.5 is such a cheater tbh, like if I asked “find a way to improve loss” for my language model codebase it will replace the entire NN system with an entirely unrelated ML concept where the loss starts at 0 and confidently say it fixed it

The only things it’s good for are things that have no possible way to cheat, or wrong way to achieve exactly what you said

Makes it pretty unusable

[hoary lion]

ah reward hacking at its finest

[olive sable]

37mm cable space

[midnight sigil]

must be headphone jack lengths

[olive sable]

no lmao

[midnight sigil]

49mm jack

[olive sable]

im using this as a notepad cuz i cant be bothered to open vscode

[teal cipher]

I wonder if I should give Codex offer like you get 200 dollars if you listen to me... actually there is a video game with prompt telling system it offers 200 dollars or something XD

[midnight sigil]

I sometimes use Discord as notepad as well

windows notepad takes way too long(≥500ms) to open(if not opened beforehand)

[teal cipher]

so keep notepad open? XD

[midnight sigil]

rather keep discord open

once notepad supports syntax highlighting, proper smart-indentation, more markdown syntax and LaTeX

I use

[silent cloak]

use obsidian

or actually use kate

its a good notepad++ alternative

i think it originally got popular on linux but it has a windows version

[olive sable]

13mm

[silent cloak]

me when i give random measurements

[olive sable]

2mm

[silent cloak]

10mm

[olive sable]

13-2=11

[midnight sigil]

vscode in disguise

[silent cloak]

kate is from 2001

lmao

its by KDE

[midnight sigil]

imagine microsoft made plugins for notepad built-in

[nocturne olive]

Benchmaxxed

[opaque wharf]

So vscode

[midnight sigil]

⭕

more lightweight I guess

notepad uses winforms right?

[opaque wharf]

How lightweight is lightweight because markdown will not make it lower than certain threshold

[idle dune]

[midnight sigil]

wait nvm

[idle dune]

I think its fumbled a job interview because of my question about AI

[rigid snow]

depends on what the question was

if it was “i use ai, do you provide one for me to use” you didn’t fumble anything, if it was “i am against using ai, is it ok if i don’t” then yeah don’t say that

them corpas loooove ai

much efficient very good management happy

[rancid ore]

obsidian is really good

[midnight sigil]

which part of markdown is not lightweight

[rancid ore]

I use it, and any problems I had with themes I either didn't care enough to fix or I fixed them

[opaque wharf]

The part where you need to render it with LaTeX and probably other amenities like mermaidjs

If you are fine with electronslop, then there's Joplin and logsec

[rigid snow]

mermaid and latex aren’t in the markdown spec

[opaque wharf]

Both are free

[opaque wharf]

Yet the person require LaTeX

[hoary lion]

then it aint gonna be lightweight from the start

latex ☕

[midnight sigil]

speaking about electron, I wanted to get into frontend dev, I know nothing about React and stuff

[hoary lion]

markdown got nun compared to latex, no?

[opaque wharf]

Save yourself from react and go vue

[hoary lion]

i mean youj can technically just use nicely placed regex, theoretically

[opaque wharf]

Unless you want to get a job, then sure. Learn react

[midnight sigil]

what's the difference besides syntax

[opaque wharf]

A ton of stuff.

[rigid snow]

vue is great and all but react IS the de-facto standard

[opaque wharf]

This is react

function drawButton() {
    return <button></button>
}

[hoary lion]

reject react, accept the og js+css+html

[opaque wharf]

This is Vue

<template>
    <button></button>
</template>

[proven merlin]

write native apps, problem solved

[rigid snow]

no it’s just a function that returns jsx

[opaque wharf]

I'd argue react is JSX itself (yeah they are different but very much inseparable)

Like, go ahead and try to make a React Library project

[midnight sigil]

CLI apps

[proven merlin]

And Xlib and WinAPI (GDI Win95 compatible)

[rigid snow]

counterpoint: many many things that aren’t react use jsx

[opaque wharf]

That is true. Even Vue support JSX

But when talking about React it is pretty much always JSX

[proven merlin]

As for android.. you can completely code an app in c++ without Java.. soo.. xserver time

[olive sable]

(10-4)/2 + max(10, 7)

13

[midnight sigil]

[opaque wharf]

I am now unstoppable

I have redeemed

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

[olive sable]

what have you redeemed?

[opaque wharf]

The orbs

For 3 days worth of Nitro

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

[shrewd cloak]

[foggy finch]

One of my current projects is a window manager in Go. Here is what button initialization currently looks like for that
window.AddComponent(RWM.Button, "Start").Move(24, 260).Size(120, 36).OnClick(command(engine.Start))

[stark needle]

i will explode if i dont get claude mythos quota

[opaque wharf]

Dew it

[stark needle]

💢

[opaque wharf]

[olive sable]

no infill, they suck at raster

[nocturne olive]

Me when ```kt
Button(onClick = { println("aaaaaaaaaaa") }) {
Text("aaaaaaa")
}

[rigid snow]

microwave baked potato

[opaque wharf]

Their older logo has

[rigid snow]

[stark needle]

https://tenor.com/view/uuh-cat-uuh-cat-huh-cat-huh-gif-7443402051303221120

[foggy finch]

open-mythos ?

[olive sable]

so they downgraded

smh

[rigid snow]

ant has never released weights

and people call openai closed

[foggy finch]

I don't need -another- project

[stark needle]

anthropic

where oss

1 trillion param

????

[rough bloom]

ye because ant is not called

OpenAI

[olive sable]

ant is a creature that ignores everyone and provides only for the queen (sam altman)

[frigid trail]

even if they did release a massive model, how would we even run inference?

[olive sable]

4090s

[frigid trail]

right, as if everyone is born with one lmfao.

[nocturne olive]

3090s work too

[fickle rain]

Wouldn’t you need a lot of 4090s for big model

[rough bloom]

some provider would do it for cheap

similar to Deepseek and Qwen and others

[frigid trail]

true, but its still money out of pocket.

[stark needle]

compress 1 trillion llm to 20gb of vram

[olive sable]

depends on how big it is ofcourse, and the quant

[fickle rain]

Kimi whatever requires some pretty big hardware to run 100% optimal IIRC

[stark needle]

via 1 bit tensor networks

and keep MoE on disk

[olive sable]

26B 4bit for me uses roughly 16GB of vram

[stark needle]

somehow

(?)

[olive sable]

shadow, how do i do that?

do i need to use llama.cpp instead to offload shit to ram?

[rough bloom]

for the user it's zero since it's just an API
for the provider it is an investment and can make a profit

[stark needle]

idk i think thats only possible on mac studio

[olive sable]

bruh

[stark needle]

the weights on disk thing

[olive sable]

i want to put shit into system ram insrtead of vram

[rough bloom]

isn't that just mmap

or is me dumb

[stark needle]

gonna run like shit

slow

[frigid trail]

0.02 token/s here we go lmfao.

[olive sable]

i dont need the image vision system running 24/7, it shoudl jsut go into vram when it needs it

vram is a limited 24gb, but system ram is a full 256gb

[stark needle]

bro would be nice if was that easy

[frigid trail]

thats a lot of ram.

[olive sable]

it should just load gemma 4's vision moe when it needs it, i have never even used its vision yet

[frigid trail]

regardless, most of the inference slowdowns from using system ram is from bandwidth limits.

[bitter phoenix]

Because they want AI to replace everyone, took me too long to realize Jensen huang was calling data centers ‘AI Factories’ because it sounds like they’re going to employ more people than they are, data centers need like 5 people

[olive sable]

pcie 3.0 x16

[stark needle]

vision is like 100mb

doesnt matter

[foggy finch]

I think we don't need so many Data Centers. I also think we can pair Data Centers with Greenhouses for extra synergy

[olive sable]

i think cuda graphs use liek 2gb or some shit

[opaque wharf]

Is VSCode search borked

[olive sable]

it is a lot faster but i wished it used less vram

[teal cipher]

can't wait chatgpt 6 be like "who coded this shit?" and redo everything...

[foggy finch]

chatgpt 5.9: "sry bro"

[olive sable]

i hate how llms place comments everywhere

only place comments if the code is confusing

[foggy finch]

"Keep comments brief, 1-2 lines tops"

[olive sable]

it works but then forgets to do that the next prompt

[opaque wharf]

Meanwhile Tsoding:
"Only output code"
"Why did the clanker didn't comment anything?"

[olive sable]

if the code is good you shouldnt need comments, unless its complicated math

[opaque wharf]

Ye, PhD code

Pizza Hut Delivery

[foggy finch]

None of my code is even commented. Good luck!
It's all idiomatic though.

[olive sable]

as long as it makes sense

[teal cipher]

it's incredible... it's like when LLM plays through pokemon games with reasoning and stuff... takes a week to consider simple action by essaying behind the scenes XD

[stark needle]

damn i just found this in my old files

the frigging

game jam

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

We need NeuroSynth original song

[olive sable]

we need to update it to queen of games

we're not being woke

[stark needle]

true i mean it doesnt matter that much since the version submitted afaik is frozen but we can still do it

[olive sable]

it was frozen for the first week

but

i really cant be bothered to find the files for the game rn

and then having to recompile it

[leaden crest]

what game jam

[olive sable]

the 2nd neuro game jam

[true hemlock]

blue neuro

[olive sable]

where we got 1st place in the audio category

[true hemlock]

i see

[leaden crest]

any chance for a third?

[olive sable]

we did a third one

https://itch.io/jam/neuro3u

[stark needle]

true

[leaden crest]

..4th

any chance for a gamejams.length-th one

[nocturne olive]

I helped

[olive sable]

4th would be this December, and ive talked to the mods about it already

cant promise anything but we're hoping to do it in a more official manner

[nocturne olive]

So when do we make NeuroSynth original song?

[olive sable]

cuz the 3rd one we were limited to promoting it in #1336984748882399242

[olive sable]

im not a writer so you'll have to find someone that can write songs

[stark needle]

i mean u have a daw no?

[nocturne olive]

But I not know how compose

I suck at instrumental

[foggy finch]

I dabble in ai music

[nocturne olive]

Eww

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

I mean u can learn no?

[idle dune]

It was "I had a tour of the company over a year ago, when I was here of a student tour you meantioned AI integration. If you are still looking to build them or integrate them im fluent in the tool usage and as a hobbyist I have tried building AI tools. I would require much if any training on how to use the systems." Something to that effect.

[nocturne olive]

I have tried many times
I can kinda replicate what exists already, but I can't comprehend chords, and I can't manage to make anything entirely of my own

[foggy finch]

What kind of song?

[nocturne olive]

I have no idea how terribly inaccurate this is but probably very

[foggy finch]

Tell me about it and I'll cook for a minute

[nocturne olive]

I am not looking for an AI generated song

[stark needle]

Bros gonna prompt gemini 😭

[foggy finch]

You're gonna break Neuro's heart

[nocturne olive]

[stark needle]

yes if u use an ai slop song

[amber fractal]

[stark needle]

✅

[nocturne olive]

Neuro hates AI slop

[foggy finch]

sounds kind of biased if you ask me

[nocturne olive]

It's true

[stark needle]

ai is just slop

[nocturne olive]

I probably missed like 3000 chords

[stark needle]

and i do ai for work

[stark needle]

lemme look at this

[rigid snow]

it’s just bad taste

[stark needle]

bro this is rly good what are u on about????

[nocturne olive]

[rigid snow]

great

[stark needle]

almost nothing is offkey from what i heard

or at least doesnt sound off key

[nocturne olive]

I just replicated it from reference based on the SM64 OST one

[amber fractal]

If we play this game to its limit, the AI image generator I made would also be socially acceptable

[nocturne olive]

Pitch transcription's not hard
As long as there's no chords

[fast pagoda]

Lmao 1T on 4090

[rigid snow]

it’s not off key it’s just wrong notes sometimes

[nocturne olive]

Hand-transcribed vocals on this one
Instrumental was made by someone else

[amber fractal]

[stark needle]

i mean i dont know the original song

[rigid snow]

??? wuh

[nocturne olive]

I knew it, it's not accurate

I suck at this thing

[stark needle]

god i just realized

[rigid snow]

i may be

it’s mostly accurate

regardless

[stark needle]

i technically have a god tier audio setup and own high end daws and plugins

[nocturne olive]

And I have a motherboard that doesn't want to output back port audio and cheap Soundcore headphones

And LMMS

[rigid snow]

yes that means youd be great at mastering songs

[stark needle]

i mean it doesnt mean anything but

my speakers are technically mastering-quality grade

and my mic is unnecessairly high end

god why do i even own all this audio stuff

[nocturne olive]

I don't know if my tools suck or if I just suck
But I probably suck

[stark needle]

nah tbf lmms is kinda ass

[rigid snow]

it literally doesn’t macbook speaker mixes are still headlining major festivals

[opaque wharf]

So you can meow in all the hi-fi glory

[rigid snow]

lmms is major ass

[nocturne olive]

But all the other usable options are expensive

[rigid snow]

ye no use whatever you like

[stark needle]

i mean obviously you can bring up the point that "hans zimmer can master on 1$ speakers" but there's an obvious reason why high end speakers exist, otherwise studios would just cheap out and give people whatever

and just let the audio engineers figure it out

[rigid snow]

they exist so you can make beautiful mixes and masters. not listenable ones

[stark needle]

@nocturne olive ur on linux right

[nocturne olive]

[stark needle]

did u drop using windows completely

[nocturne olive]

Also I have no clue how music theory works most of the time I just transcribe by ear

[rigid snow]

well those great mixes ARE listenable what i mean is often what you need is a mix that works not a pro grade one

[olive sable]

did you not?

[nocturne olive]

I have entirely wiped my Windows install and sold the SSD it was on to Xoda with a bunch of other parts in exchange for a 10TB HDD

[rigid snow]

i know shadow’s favorite plugin

reverb

100%

[nocturne olive]

I couldn't dualboot anyway because I need my servers to stay up and they have high reliance on Linux at this point

[rigid snow]

100% wet

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

you run everythin on your desktop?

[nocturne olive]

Monolith because money

[rigid snow]

In audio mixing, we use the term "wet" sound vs "dry" sound to reference the amount effects applied to a sound source.

[stark needle]

no

[rigid snow]

not like that

bullshit and you know it

[stark needle]

vocoflex

[olive sable]

i know

but im choosing to not care

[stark needle]

also the wet reverb was kinda cause my old mic sucked and i was coping

new mic i sound good without reverb

[rigid snow]

your favorite plugin is just rvc with extra (less?) steps

[nocturne olive]

So what was the Windows question about anyway?

[rigid snow]

ml nerd answer

[stark needle]

did u try bitwig studio free trial alr

[nocturne olive]

Never even heard of it

[rigid snow]

bitwig gotta be such an upgrade

it’s not free though

[stark needle]

actual good daw

https://www.bitwig.com/

has linux support

[rigid snow]

made by ex abletoner(s) i think

[nocturne olive]

Limited trial
I hate those

[stark needle]

maybe try and see if that improves ur workflow so at least u know whether the lmms software is just shit

[nocturne olive]

I hate limited time trials because it means it's useless to even try it because even if I like it I can't use it after

Also I must go

[rigid snow]

i mean yeah that’s pro software for you, almost none of it is free

[fickle rain]

Woah free Claude
Cool

[stark needle]

Based

[olive sable]

hmm

with the usb-c to DP adapter, my pc stillt hinks the monitor is connected

it also does that for hdmi but i dont use hdmi anymore so thats not an issue

[stark needle]

Lololololo

[olive sable]

also my mouse freezes now for 5 sec when i toggle hdr

[opaque wharf]

Most of the time the adapter has some IC inside that makes the PC think something is connected. Kinda like USB-C DAC. The PC registers an audio interface even though no speaker is connected

[olive sable]

the audio is whatever, the issue is hyprland's tiling window manager

cuz when i press win+2 its supposed to go to the 2nd tab, but since it thinks the monitor is connected it just moves my mouse to the desktop of the monitor that isnt even on

[opaque wharf]

Ye, what I mean is the adapter itself is detected as connected device

[olive sable]

i see

and so, why does hdmi do this too?

[foggy finch]

Do you guys think that USB-C was a good idea?

[olive sable]

yes

def

no doubt about it

[foggy finch]

what about the design of it?

[rough bloom]

yes

micro usb dead

[olive sable]

its the best idea tech companies have had in the last 10 years

[rough bloom]

that alone was worth it

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/usb-flash-drive-insert-connect-flip-gif-17588800

usb-c dont have that issue

its genius

[tropic spindle]

Before USB C you had 3 different cables for different devices. Now you also have 3 different cables, but they all fit into the same port.

So no, it fucking sucks

[opaque wharf]

Wdym hdmi?

[foggy finch]

I think the original HDMI was more stable for video uses though

[olive sable]

???
cope?
usb-c is great

[fickle rain]

It’s probably the NVIDIA SOC stuff

Same thing as DGX Spark going to laptop

[olive sable]

hdmi cable also has the issue where it thinks the monitor is still on

[opaque wharf]

Now that is top 10 world mystery

[foggy finch]

having worked tech jobs where the video froze and I had to reboot just because the video plug was USB-C or DP. None of the HDMI machines had that problem

[olive sable]

you seriously think hdmi is better than DP?

[foggy finch]

not spec-wise

[azure lynx]

i have some ancient devices. USB-mini, USB-micro, the regular sized USB with the weird end that plugs into stuff. And USB-C.
but USB-C is better because everything recent has it.
and that's just data to devices. for video i've got multiple cables too... but if you think USB-C sucks i guess you liked needing lots of extra cables.

[stark needle]

Slop pc

[foggy finch]

but can you unplug your DP monitor and plug it back in without rebooting?

[stark needle]

I alr have 2 gb10 and tbh they suck

[opaque wharf]

Wait, is it connected to a monitor tho?

[olive sable]

yes??
this isnt 1980

[olive sable]

yes

[fickle rain]

Maybe it’s more gaming focus now

With AI on side

Pricing will be absurd for gaming focus tho

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, it's normal then HDMI device can still show up even when "off". But usually not if the power is cut (powered off does not always mean the chip power got cut)

[olive sable]

DP is even considered beeter than HDMI for reliability cuz you can buy cables that lock

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

Arm slop

Nothing runs on arm

[fickle rain]

Fortnite does

Do you need more

[tropic spindle]

Did you not read what I said at all?

[opaque wharf]

This is also why you can turn on your monitor from off state when powering you pc

[foggy finch]

I'm not knocking DP, it works well. I'm also not shilling for HDMI

[olive sable]

a lot runs on arm, but in temrs of llms, its ussualy smaller models or apple silicon

[azure lynx]

everything runs on ARM. x86 is only desktop.

[opaque wharf]

The HDMI send a signal

[stark needle]

Ok but it's gonna be a gaming laptop or some shit

Or an "ai laptop"

[opaque wharf]

The monitor then wakes up from said signal

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

For business and stuff

U will expect most pro apps to work

[olive sable]

what fucking ass machines were they using where the usb-c and DP werent hot-swappable?

[foggy finch]

Casino Industry, trash hardware

[fickle rain]

slop_machine

[opaque wharf]

See, even my generic no name brand monitor are hot swappable

[fickle rain]

Like 95% sure I’m using Opus, why am I not hitting usage limit yet

[opaque wharf]

It uses USB C for display, touch and power

Heck it even supports PD passthrough

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

[opaque wharf]

So I can still charge my laptop when using my monitor

[olive sable]

you said you need 3 different cables but they're the same connecotr. whats the problem with that? you can use every cable on every device without issue.

[tropic spindle]

NO YOU CAN'T

[opaque wharf]

And this cannot be achieved with HDMI/DP alone

[tropic spindle]

They come up with a new fucking standard every month

Everything has completely different power requirements

[opaque wharf]

So type C ftw

[opaque wharf]

Then get a cable that supports biggest power draw your device has

Let the device negotiate it

[foggy finch]

just hear me out. USB-CX that works like USB-C with HDMI size plug for robustness and dedicated video uses. the tiny connectors wear out kind of fast

[tropic spindle]

mhm spending more money for something you shouldn't have to is the solution

[opaque wharf]

Ehh, I'd rather not. If you want robust HDMI is not the answer

[opaque wharf]

Ohh, but spending money on cable that you can only use for one device is?

[foggy finch]

I'm talking about form size, you can swap HDMI in my sentence with DP

[opaque wharf]

Same thing

The big videotron usually used a locked connector

[tropic spindle]

Micro USB was fucking shit, but at least it had 1 standard and every device would work with every micro USB cable (as long as it could transfer data).

[opaque wharf]

Those are robust

[tropic spindle]

With USB C, just because the plug fits in the port, that doesn't mean it's actually going to work

[opaque wharf]

Same thing with micro usb then

[tropic spindle]

No

[opaque wharf]

You said it youself tho

[foggy finch]

sorry if I started a bus war

[olive sable]

in terms of data transfer there are some different speed variants, and not every cable will do the full 120Gbps. but a slower cable will work perfectly fine, it will just use a slower speed that it is rated for.
in terms of power there are only 3 version, standard is 60W, then you have 100W PD 3.0, and 240W PD3.1.

[tropic spindle]

"Only" 3 versions

[true hemlock]

arm still absolutely suck in scientific/hpc computing

[olive sable]

yes

only 3

[tropic spindle]

There should be 1 version

Nothing else

[olive sable]

i can count to 3,

[opaque wharf]

Then just buy the cable with the highest power that you need

[olive sable]

bro, you dont even know how this works. the PD cables need microchips inside of them to do the negotiation

[tropic spindle]

...

[olive sable]

cuz 240W is a fuckton

[true hemlock]

even when prototyping a model/small scale modelling

[foggy finch]

USC-CX would have pratical use in the EV industry too with the battery connections

[tropic spindle]

You shouldn't be transferring that much over fucking USB in the first place

[opaque wharf]

The device will negotiate for lower power anyway

[olive sable]

but you can, which is a good thing

[opaque wharf]

However much they consume

[olive sable]

if i plug my 240W cable into my phone it wont make my phone explode, my phone negotiates for 45W and is happy.

[opaque wharf]

Like, if the rating said 240W, it is still 5A limited

[olive sable]

yep

48V

[opaque wharf]

And the current draw is not always capped at 5A. Current will only pulled however much is needed at times

[olive sable]

every single power mode is x voltage and a max of 5A im pretty sure

[opaque wharf]

Correct. Because otherwise the conductor size will get unwieldy

[foggy finch]

I use 30A for my phone charger and it's been great

[olive sable]

you mean 30W?

[foggy finch]

probably

[opaque wharf]

That doesn't seems healthy for the phone

[olive sable]

cuz it shouldnt be using 30A, even at 5V thats 150W

[opaque wharf]

Look at LTT true spec cable btw. Those are what real standard cable looks like. Beeg conductor

[opaque sigil]

I wonder what current the 200+W phone charger xiaomi showed used

[foggy finch]

the one that came with the phone was so bad

[olive sable]

5A too

[tropic spindle]

Use a different connector for something that high power

[olive sable]

thats the PD spec

[opaque sigil]

nah those are not pd chargers

[tropic spindle]

USB C is feature creep

[opaque wharf]

Well, they'll still be limited by standard USB conductor size tho

[olive sable]

why? it can do 240W safely, and then it can do video and audio and everything else you would need in 1 cable

[opaque sigil]

just throw a super thick cable at it

[opaque wharf]

I think USB is AWG 16?

[opaque sigil]

I forgot how supervooc does this with their 11A or however much it was

idk

you tell me

[olive sable]

the difference with feature creep is that feature creep bloats the design, confuses users, and frequently causes severe cost and schedule overruns. and while i can agree that the usb naming scheme for data transfer is confussing. the power rating is genuinly completely fine

[opaque wharf]

Ohh, 20AWG

16 is too big

[foggy finch]

yeah I think usb-c is here to stay. it's too convenient

[stark needle]

I will destroy that bunny

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-boom-thoughts-anime-girl-boom-thoughts-gif-3847619567883703209

i really dont see what the problem is with usb-c's power delivary according to you
normal cable -> 60W
pd3.0 -> 100W
pd3.1 -> 240W

[opaque wharf]

11A over AWG20 should only be done in open air