programming

[fast pagoda]

yep

cant stay in orbit and lower a thermal body into the atmosphere for that

[olive sable]

Im thinking of a stick being stuck to the landmass, not in orbit. And the wind cools it

[fast pagoda]

mm i see

[azure lynx]

better to use the ground

much better thermal conduction

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

i think this is called

aerothermodynamics

this area of intrigue

[azure lynx]

there are passive cooling designs that use the shape of the building and prevailing winds to use nearly no power

[silent cloak]

Maybe when we are atleast a type 1 civilization

[fast pagoda]

https://www.nasa.gov/general/aerothermodynamics-branch-science/

[olive sable]

Cooling the liquid iron part of the core by heating the outside of the planet sounds like a recipe for mass destruction

[fast pagoda]

lmao we hit it just right and the core loses all energy somehow

we call that an oopsie daisy

[azure lynx]

i say while the AC in my apartment is blasting loudly behind the computer

[silent cloak]

Including nuclear energy?

[azure lynx]

never watch the movie "The Core" if you know any science. (was reminded off it by a youtube video recently)

[fast pagoda]

there's a futurama episode where a cat civilization comes to earth to steal the earth's rotational energy and beam it back to their planet using the pyramids, which of course are built to be giant transmitters for this type of radiation. because their cat planet lost its spin

[olive sable]

[azure lynx]

the core of the earth shuts down and they send a special vehicle down to explode nukes on it to restart it. ;[ it is that bad.

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

energy = energy brah 💪

https://tenor.com/view/workout-lift-muscles-strong-juice-gif-6090141

[olive sable]

You know what is peak core of the earth scifi writing?

[kind nimbus]

Sounds like they need Schrodinger's cat since that emits infinite energy

[fast pagoda]

artemis fowl

[olive sable]

Minecraft terra swoop force

[fast pagoda]

https://theinfosphere.org/That_Darn_Katz!

poor thuban 9. roasting on one side, frozen on the other

apparently somehow still liquid water on the roasting side

[azure lynx]

it's just blue rocks. ;/

[fast pagoda]

true that's why the ocean is blue as well

jesus hand painted them blue

[kind nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-toast-spin-gif-13415788

[azure lynx]

!! no attach to front of cat!!

otherwise they just land on their feet

logic plz

[fast pagoda]

toast always lands butter side down

cat always lands on feed

feet*

so

it will spin infinitely

[kind nimbus]

Yup

[azure lynx]

don't need it to spin... want it to float so it can carry stuff

[olive sable]

Its watercooled

[fast pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJUahR8i5Dc

[kind nimbus]

But i wanna attach the car to a generator to produce infinite amounts of energy

[azure lynx]

tape two cats together, much more elegant

[fast pagoda]

car/cat typo

fucking classic

always so good

[azure lynx]

(buttering both sides of the toast won't work as either side now counts)

[kind nimbus]

Lmao that was actually auto correct

[fast pagoda]

oh shit

ipv8 returns with more bullshit

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

some dude figured out you can make a draft proposal to the ietf without like

any verification

and submitted some turbo shitpost ipv8 a few months ago

now there's a 2nd one let's goooo

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thain-ipv8-00.html

[azure lynx]

yay! I'm looking forward to becoming as ignorant of that as the rest of my family is of IPv4 and v6 so I won't know what to do either.

[fast pagoda]

great news! ipv8 is literally 2x ipv4 addresses grafted together

[azure lynx]

4 billion internets ought to be enough for everyone

[fast pagoda]

here bro here's ur fix

3.1. Structure
An IPv8 address is a 64-bit value:

r.r.r.r.n.n.n.n
r.r.r.r -- 32-bit ASN Routing Prefix
n.n.n.n -- 32-bit Host Address (identical semantics to IPv4)
3.2. Address Space
2^64 = 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 unique addresses.
2^32 ASN prefixes x 2^32 host addresses per ASN.
3.3. IPv4 Representation in IPv8
0.0.0.0.n.n.n.n
Packets with r.r.r.r = 0.0.0.0 MUST be routed using standard IPv4 rules applied to the n.n.n.n field. IPv4 is a proper subset of IPv8. No modification to IPv4 devices, applications, or networks is required.

[azure lynx]

Hmm. Looks bad. if your DNS dies you are screwed. Can't use the network to fix it. and without DNS it blocks everything.

[fast pagoda]

yeah

it is bad

it's seemingly a shitpost

[silent cloak]

Never even heard of it

But it sounds like a bad idea

Given how stubborn people are with 6

[fast pagoda]

if you read the proposal he basically cites himself and the only references to the citations on the whole internet are the ones in the proposed draft

[silent cloak]

Lmao

[azure lynx]

These two steps together eliminate the primary malware command-and-control channel: connection to hardcoded IP addresses without DNS resolution
Soooooo how do you define the DNS server addresses?

[fast pagoda]

vibes and prayer

[silent cloak]

I think its a good idea to ditch ipv4 but this doesn't seem like a good implementation

[fast pagoda]

it's not

it joke

[silent cloak]

Wait is there an ipv7

If there is an 8

[fast pagoda]

TP/IX The Next Internet (IPv7)

proposed

1988

[silent cloak]

Damn how old is 6 then

[fast pagoda]

1995 lmao

[silent cloak]

Bruhh

[fast pagoda]

we'll get there eventually!

[azure lynx]

this is what's called an RFC. this one is draft version 0. It's a request for comment from others and not a standard. (draft RFCs are not standards and technically neither are RFCs)

[silent cloak]

Stubborn ass companies

[fast pagoda]

yep

courtesy of this guy

be like steve

he requests

your input

and comments

[silent cloak]

I love how newer version numbers are obsolete

[fast pagoda]

or else

[silent cloak]

Truly peak programmer version scheme

Also tf is chinese ipv9

[fast pagoda]

256 bit addresses

[azure lynx]

it's an idea which the author wants to share with others for their feedback. It's got some interesting ideas. I like the basically backwards compatibility with ipv4. It's got some horrible flaws but maybe there could be improvements which make it useable? not putting a lot of hope in it though.

[fast pagoda]

there was an april fools RFC for ipv9

at one point

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1606.html

Allocation

   The vast number space of the IPv9 protocol has also allowed
   allocation to be done in a straight forward manner. Typically, most
   high street commercial internet providers issue a range of 1 billion
   addresses to each house. The addresses are then dynamically
   partitioned into subnet hierarchies allowing groups of a million
   addresses to be allocated for each discreet unit (e.g., room/floor
   etc.) The allocation of sub groups then to controllers such as light
   switches, mains sockets and similar is then done from each pool.

   The allocation process is again done in a hierarchical zoned way,
   with each major application requesting a block of addresses from its
   controller. In this way the light bulb requests an address block from
   the light switch, the light switch in turn from the electrical system
   which in turn requests one from the room/floor controller. This has
   been found to be successful due to the enormous range of addresses
   available, and contention for the address space being without
   problems typically.

   Whilst there are still many addresses unallocated the available space
   has been sharply decreased. The discovery of intelligent life on
   other solar systems with the parallel discovery of a faster-than-
   light transport stack is the main cause. This enables real time
   communication with them, and has made the allocation of world-size
   address spaces necessary, at the level 3 routing hierarchy. There is
   still only 1 global (spatial) level 2 galaxy wide network required
   for this galaxy, although the establishment of permanent space
   stations in deep space may start to exhaust this. This allows level 1
   to be used for inter-galaxy routing. The most pressing problem now is
   the case of parallel universes.  Of course there is the danger of
   assuming that there is no higher extrapolation than parallel
   universes...

   Up to now, the hacking into, and setting of holo-recorder devices to
   the wrong channel from remote galaxies, has not been confirmed, and
   appears to be attributable to finger problem with the remote control
   whilst travelling home from the office.

wow that was longer than it looked on the site

[silent cloak]

Discord is just small

[fast pagoda]

i had mine on my vertical monitor and zoomed too much

and it was like

horrible

[silent cloak]

I got a new monitor

Now i can have 4

This one shall join the vertical club

https://tenor.com/view/nix-nixos-gif-1285089830590954240

@kind nimbus

[fast pagoda]

i should hook up all my monitors but i have too many

for the graphics cards

i only use 3 normally

2 more at this desk is already exceeding the display gpu

and then 4 more in this room is too much for both

[silent cloak]

No such thing as too many monitors while programming

[fast pagoda]

there are 15 monitors in my general vicinity not counting tvs or devices like phones etc

Finally achieved ghost in the shell type setup

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-the-gif-24707533

If it aint like this i dont want it

[fast pagoda]

It's basically that except larger and more varied sizes/orientations

[silent cloak]

Until we get iron man level holograms ill need multi monitor setups

[fast pagoda]

My life for eye strain

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/researchers-identify-people-through-ordinary-wi-fi-routers-with-99-percent-accuracy it's over

Knew this was gonna be a fucking problem when my fucking Xfinity router started offering it as a "security" feature

Look at this shit bruh

This just identifies movement in general but not surprising it can be used to figure out the exact people it's detecting too

Gonna have to start wearing a faraday cage

[silent cloak]

Real

Or ditch their hardware (better)

[fast pagoda]

yeah i have it in bridge mode now

[silent cloak]

Or drop it completely and not have to pay rental

[fast pagoda]

i don't pay rental

[silent cloak]

Why use their hardware then

[fast pagoda]

free and also dont want to buy a docsis 3.1 modem when 4.0 exists

speaking of which

they are suposed to be sending me one of them

and it's been delayed for so long

but that's a big part of it

and as a regular consumer

can't buy a docsis 4.0 modem

[silent cloak]

Classic

Will be able to eventually

One way or another

[fast pagoda]

supposed to be "late 2026"

i iwill get one of them when they come out probably

[azure lynx]

there were papers on using wifi as "through wall vision" including counting and tracking building occupants like 5-10 years ago

[fast pagoda]

but i aint buying a shitty ass 3.1 one now for that reason

[fast pagoda]

yep it's real and in production now, i could turn it on today

[silent cloak]

Gotta spy on everyone after all

[azure lynx]

the ability to do tracking and detection is a side effect of it being basically a radar system (with some fancy stuff for data)

[fast pagoda]

i mean if you think about it for like

1 second

any device sending and receiving signals like that

can detect when there's a change in the strength

[silent cloak]

I mean yeah

But actually implementing it to spy is a different low

[fast pagoda]

so of course it can detect when it's disturbed

oh yeah i dont mean it's good

but it logically was always gonna happen

[azure lynx]

i'd considered using RF signals for my meltybrain combat robot for determining rotation rate/"true north" but I think it would've been a lot of math to get working

[silent cloak]

Remember always clog spy systems with random noise out of spite

[fast pagoda]

meltybrain combat robot sounds like something i'd avoid

[fast pagoda]

this is true

i do need to print one of those adversarial license plate covers

[silent cloak]

Based

[azure lynx]

those license plate covers make it hard to play my arithmetic games with the plates though. ;[ ( just the number part 8120... 8+2 == 10, two pairs. try make poker hands. [2 1s and 2 0s] )

[silent cloak]

944nm IR light would work good too for blocking

[azure lynx]

i very much recommend anyone with a racing mind who walks alongside traffic play license plate games ;]

[azure lynx]

the important part is that you make sure it doesn't seem like the intent of the cover is to make it hard to read. you can get a ticket for that. ;]

i think adding IR LEDs would be a little obvious

[silent cloak]

That wouldnt make it hard to read

Just for their cameras

Though there are better forms of data poisoning

[azure lynx]

if they can see they can't read your plate they might be curious why.

[silent cloak]

Which is even better

[silent cloak]

Wouldnt matter if its some camera

Because they wouldnt have any information

[azure lynx]

would if it's the camera in their car.

i've seen scatched up plastic covers with more scratching in some ares than others which i think are intended to make the digits hard to see.

[silent cloak]

There are IR covers which are good too

Those block those cameras

[azure lynx]

also depends on the state.

personally i just don't drive much. i've got a 2022 Tesla with 1800 miles on it that i'm thinking of selling. Costs more to own it than it would to get an Uber everywhere i need to go or get delivery.

[silent cloak]

Some other good poison methods out there to deal with it

[azure lynx]

I have a tshirt with a QR code that crashes some security cameras.
[technically true: i the camera is not configured, it will detect the QR code and crash parsing it. I didn't finish a code execution exploit for it because I did the research over a weekend and got told "cool, work on this now."]

the QR code is meant to come from the app but it didn't have any length checks on the size of the data it was copying into fixed length buffers.
very 1990s bug for a 2020s camera.

I am pretty sure I could hack go pro cameras too based on some details about them but would need to do a lot fo work reversing stuff as well as buy a couple of them.... not going to be doing that soon.

it would be funny to make a license plate sized display which generated a new random license plate display every second and to leave them in front of ALPRs.

[glad path]

wow nice tag i got there

[leaden crest]

the error in 2020: some new hire doesn’t know the difference between 0 and 1 indexed
the error in 2026: some new hire vibe coded literal github

[fiery girder]

I don't know whose but Happy EID MUARAK fellow programmers

[glad path]

I literally had to issue a hotfix for my CI runner AGAIN

because somehow the runner was getting ratelimited when running curl -s "https://api.github.com/repos/PrismaticDepths/neoprisma/releases/latest"

wtf

i literally have to patch the installer or workflow EVERY SINGLE UPDATE WHYYY

my codebase is almost 5000 lines now

i still havent started cross platform work

[leaden crest]

wtf thats genius

so chaotic neutral coded

[glad path]

I want this.

[fast pagoda]

i hate ci

[fast pagoda]

im not muslim but my understanding is that eid muarak is a greeting itself so, eid muarak sir/ma'am/programmer

[opaque wharf]

Nice. The one on the right is a bit more ripple-y

[olive sable]

Thats the one going to the lightcrafter

Should only use 96W max

[opaque wharf]

Yeah and it should be fine too. 60mV from 5V is like what? 0.3%?

[olive sable]

Nah, they're 12V

[opaque wharf]

Yeah even more so

[olive sable]

Thats good then, i got approved

[opaque wharf]

Well it is within a good standard value

[olive sable]

I remember yall saying the previous ones were ass

[opaque wharf]

Wait, can you send the datasheet of the lightcrafter again?

[olive sable]

https://www.ti.com/lit/ug/dlpu011f/dlpu011f.pdf

[olive sable]

Thats sick as fuck

How much does it cost in parts?

I imagine like 150 bucks ignoring r&d

[olive sable]

I know this contains a lot of random shit but i cant find one thats only the electrical details

[haughty lodge]

So far about $20USD

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, should be good. The only important part is the supply but because it is a devkit it's usually already done the other power regulation stuff on the board

That's why is only specifies the connector size and voltage+current consumption

[olive sable]

Oh ye, i said 8 but the docs say 7A max

[nocturne olive]

Small data small batch training be like:

[olive sable]

So its 84W

[opaque wharf]

Yeah I am still more concerned about the GaN charger than the step down

[olive sable]

Im sure its fine

Im not overloading it, i gave it a lot of wiggle room

[sick owl]

One of the things LLMs are actually good for right here

Just straight up reading the tensors in a GGUF file and interpreting them so I don't have to bother

[olive sable]

84W lightcrafter, 15W pi, 5W motor, 104W total with 36W worth of wiggle room

I could actually use 24V instead of 28V. Maxes at 120W but then we're hittinng the peak efficiency voltage of the dc-dc converters

Original plan had the pi at 25W but i have since realized there are power settings in the bios that can limit it down to 5W

[opaque wharf]

LLM reading another LLM brains

[opaque wharf]

The efficiency curve is usually non linear tho

[proven merlin]

Ok, i just got "lucky"- i had bought two used robo vacuums.. one has issues starting to self empty, and the other just doesn't vacuum

[olive sable]

The litle prints say the best efficiency for them is at 24v

Idk what the actual graphs look like

[opaque wharf]

Usually like this

[proven merlin]

Notified the seller and all, theyre super nice.. and now i have 1000€ worth of vacuum for ~140€. What.

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Do note that this is a graph for random converter

[olive sable]

Hmmm. This one has the lower voltages as more efficient

[opaque wharf]

Ye, as I said depending on the model

[olive sable]

Mine allow 18-36V but prefer 24V supposedly.
I wonder if they have graphs on their website

[granite solstice]

My brain!

[proven merlin]

(140 with the parts prooobably needed to fix the issues btw. 96€ without any parts.. he refunded half on my first, and full on the second one. Im in shock

[opaque wharf]

It would be awesome if they have a very detailed datasheet

[proven merlin]

It would be so cool.

(now we wait if anyone got that reference)

(probably not because apparently im just old or something)

[olive sable]

I dont get it

Cant find a detailed sheet

Just the same one that came with it

[olive sable]

What exactly would the issue be for the power brick? Still just the motor?

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, mainly the load that it isn't designed for

[sick owl]

I too enjoy having my entire bank account cleared out by a youtube comment

[clever berry]

you guys know why my cpu just spiked to 100% in a split second?

[opaque wharf]

I bet you $5 that when the product designer makes those power bricks they didn't expect any motor load

[olive sable]

No way to tell without knowing what programs were running at that exact moment. Its nothing to wlrrt about tho

You might have just resized a window or something

[olive sable]

Possibly

Inductive load hmmm

Actually, it should be fine

Most of the back-EMF gets absorbed by the driver board

[clever berry]

my browser and discord that was it lmao

it spiked when i watched a video

which has never happened before

[olive sable]

Im pretty sure the DC-DC converters also filter the noise a bit.
And if worst comes to worst the power brick has

Over-Current Protection
Short-Circuit Protection
Back-Current Protection

[opaque wharf]

True, I am not concerned about it breaking or fried but the transient response is not enough to keep up

However those big leeway in the power budget may save it

As in, the transient are fast enough because it is under utilized in normal condition

[olive sable]

What happens if the spikes indeed hit the block and the transient response is not fast enough?

[opaque wharf]

Every other electronic will reset

[glad path]

something bad, probably

[olive sable]

So it loses power for a bit?

[opaque wharf]

Correct

[olive sable]

I wonder if that would damage anything

[opaque wharf]

Probably not tbh. Just really annoying

However, there are capacitor everywhere and that should be able to absorb the transient load for a while

[olive sable]

I already added an extra 35V Electrolytic Capacitor

On the input to the motot

I could also add one on the global 28V line

There's also still that TVS there

5KE15A TVS, 35V 470uF cap, and a ceramic cap

[azure lynx]

spikes and such will probably be fine and the device will be killed by walking across the floor and generating a static charge

or it'll work fine

[opaque wharf]

Yeah as I said it is probably fine with a ton of caps around. Just annoying at most if it somehow still restart every device every other spike load

[olive sable]

the lightcrafter is prob fine even wit random restarts

but the pi might corrupt

[opaque wharf]

My man Anthony Fu creating cursed project

[opaque wharf]

It shouldn't if you use a NAND storage

[olive sable]

not even if it shuts off in the middle of a write op?

im putting an m.2 in it

im hoping to prevent random shutoffs of-course, but i want to make sure it doesnt break incase it does

[fast pagoda]

these make me laugh

[fiery girder]

Ig someone does understand Arabic.

Hehe just saying "May happiness be with you" in a different language does not make me Muslim

[kind nimbus]

Nix fixes anything

[opaque wharf]

Technically Eid mubarak is a greeting as much as merry christmas is a greeting

[olive sable]

merry christmas is a greeting?

[fast pagoda]

it is

[olive sable]

you go up to people and greet them by saying "merry christmass"?

[fast pagoda]

yes

[olive sable]

americans are so weird

[opaque wharf]

I told you it is the same as much as merry christmas is a greeting

[fast pagoda]

[stray dragon]

sam he's lying to you

sam don't trust him

[opaque wharf]

So yeah, technically it is not really a greetings, but people used it as a greeting

[fast pagoda]

no im not lol people definitely use merry christmas as a greeting bruh

[kind nimbus]

Yeah this is already known for several years already

[opaque wharf]

https://espargos.net/ my beloved

[stray dragon]

prove it

[fast pagoda]

ive done it

ill do it right now

[signal trout]

"happy halloween" is a goodbye here...

[fast pagoda]

merry christmas

[fast pagoda]

christmas in january

[opaque wharf]

Eid mubarak as a greeting is just how to convey the happines of holiday and celebration too

[fast pagoda]

ye that was the intent of the reply using it ;_;

[olive sable]

merry Christmas is just a way of saying you wish the other person's Christmas is merry. it doesn't do anything i terms of greeting them

[fast pagoda]

awawaawa

[opaque wharf]

Also, there are 2 Eid in a year. Eid al fitr and Eid al ahd

[stray dragon]

what about "good morning"

[olive sable]

hmm

[fast pagoda]

during the holiday season you can use it as a greeting as a mutual acknowledgement of it being christmas

[stray dragon]

it's just a way of saying you wish the other person's morning is good

[fast pagoda]

same as good morning

[olive sable]

it also doesnt do that, im banning goodmorning too

[stray dragon]

too far

[fast pagoda]

dont listen to him he speaks a funny language

[olive sable]

greetings should greet people

[stray dragon]

bad morning sam

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

een klapp

[olive sable]

no

klap is 1 p

[fast pagoda]

P A P A

yeah i tend to add extra letters due to my fingers flying across the keyboard at mach speed due to my epic skillz'

[olive sable]

looking into it

almost every greeting doesn't greet people

its a sham

[fast pagoda]

it's implied

due to

brain

[olive sable]

you're not actually greeting them

its fake and fraud to call it a greeting

[amber fractal]

Hi Sam

[olive sable]

greetings iggly

salutations

[stray dragon]

why is it "greetings" if it's only one greeting

[olive sable]

because we reciprocate ofcourse

we meet eachother

[stray dragon]

wait

[olive sable]

making it 2 greetings

[stray dragon]

"greetings" isn't a greeting by your own standards

[olive sable]

it is

you greet them by saying greetings

its a self-explanatory verb

[stray dragon]

but why can't i greet someone by saying good morning

[olive sable]

because you're wishing them a good morning

not greeting them

[stray dragon]

but "greetings" just exclaims that there are greetings

[olive sable]

yes

[kind nimbus]

Yup and you can even accurately depict a person and even log keystrokes just using wifi

[stray dragon]

what qualifies a greeting specifically

[olive sable]

hmmm

[stray dragon]

if i say "exchanges, sam" is that then an exchange by your rules

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

[stark needle]

Morning

[olive sable]

The only "true" greetings

"I greet you."
"I salute you."
"I acknowledge your presence."

[stray dragon]

so "greetings" is not a greeting

[olive sable]

salutations my good friend

[stray dragon]

but it implies the presence of greetings

so the greeting is implied

i see

[olive sable]

any form of the verbs will do i think

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/legion-mass-effect-gif-11505461752391682171

[teal cipher]

I love this reply lol https://puu.sh/KNEug/90273863bb.png

[olive sable]

i acknowledge your presence

this is ridiculous

[opaque wharf]

Have you played Mass Effect trilogy sam?

[olive sable]

nope

[opaque wharf]

You should

[olive sable]

nope

too much work

not enough time

[opaque wharf]

10/10 story

[olive sable]

i see

[stray dragon]

mister samuel vanuel triangle, i formally acknowledge your presence and request the same acknowledgement in turn, in accordance with standard introductory social exchanges

[opaque wharf]

So we are getting close and closer to TCP now

[stray dragon]

lmao

[olive sable]

Sir. t, your presence has been noted and formally acknowledged in return as-well, in accordance with the social exchanges ruling

[teal cipher]

I acknowledge this chat acknowledges other people who should be acknowledged

[kind nimbus]

Are you ready to receive my acknowledgement? I am ready to send my acknowledgement.

[stray dragon]

i thank you kindly, mister samuel vanuel triangle, for completing the introductory exchange to a satisfactory degree

[olive sable]

and then for sending the actual data we go back to the koniispeak nonsense

[stray dragon]

wrrr

[olive sable]

[kind nimbus]

Is that UDP based ?

[olive sable]

idk, im not a network engineer

[kind nimbus]

Because i might not get it

[olive sable]

im just being silly

[olive sable]

well, in accordance with standard introductory social exchanges, none of these

[amber fractal]

May you live in interesting times

[olive sable]

nah

ive lived through enough interesting times

keeps things as bland as possible please

[frozen igloo]

I don’t think that’s how that works Neuro

[olive sable]

ni im pretty sure it does work like that

she did the standard introductory social exchanges

[azure lynx]

int main() { printf("happy %s\n",get_nearest_holiday()); return 0;}

[olive sable]

happy christmas feels off

hmmm

you really need that merry to make it sound right

[glad path]

huh

[azure lynx]

perhaps replace happy with one of a selection of formats?

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <time.h>
const char *fmts[] = { "happy %s\n", "merry %s\n", "get %sed, friend!\n", "%s?  we don't celebrate that.\n", "can't wait until %s is over, amirite?\n"};
#define ASIZ(X) (sizeof(x)/sizeof(x[0]))
const char *get_fmt() { return fmts[rand()%ASIZ(fmts)]; }
int main() { srand(time(0)); printf(get_fmt(), get_nearest_holiday()); return 0;}

sorry.

[olive sable]

i didn't notice it before, but ye i def need to install the PTM i got yesterday, im at 70C rn doing nothing

[fast pagoda]

Br*tish version

[olive sable]

is it?

only the americans say merry?

[fast pagoda]

u ever seen harrpy portter

or w/e he's called

[olive sable]

nope

i saw the first 2 or 3 movies i think

[fast pagoda]

well, they say happy christmas in that one

[olive sable]

do they?

[azure lynx]

xmas is special with merry. "enjoy your $HOLIDAY" also works.

(or "have a pleasant..." or other words to that effect. yep. overthinking this.)

[fast pagoda]

may the remainder of your short life be tolerable

[olive sable]

[fiery girder]

L

May you die in pleasure

I hope that's what you call some kind of greetings

Huh

[olive sable]

hmmm

may the force be with you

[frozen igloo]

Flawless

[kind nimbus]

[olive sable]

what is the relevance of the video?

im afraid i didnt get reprogrammed

[kind nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/you-will-be-upgraded-cybermen-dr-who-improved-upgrade-gif-22446678

[glass jetty]

14 years ago

[frozen igloo]

Close enough

[kind nimbus]

Lol i never tried out genmoji

[frozen igloo]

It runs locally so your phone gets very hot lol

[azure lynx]

must be nice. 😭
;]

[glass jetty]

i guess i cant even try it then

who not want to be upgraded

[kind nimbus]

Eh i have a 17 pro max with vapour chamber. Should be fine.

Local stuff is good

[azure lynx]

submerge it in water while it runs... it's waterproof, right? i think?

[kind nimbus]

Lol yeah i could do that

[wheat blaze]

Real?

From last stream?

[kind nimbus]

Of course. 100% (absolutely not edited)

[wheat blaze]

Oh nooo

Vedal made new server British srttingt

Now more ram just means british

[kind nimbus]

Src: #1503026282143678505 message

[frozen igloo]

Without the pins

[glass jetty]

it is horrible either way

i feel like she want to kill me or something

[frozen igloo]

She does

Also what on earth is this

[azure lynx]

vedalCopter

[frozen igloo]

Run

[kind nimbus]

Weird i just wanted to try this out but i cannot find the button lol

[abstract kindle]

what is this god forsaken creation

[frozen igloo]

The neuro emoji

[azure lynx]

ask an AI to make a "photorealistic version" of either of them. or better yet, both of them.
the one i got was nightmare fuel.

[frozen igloo]

Straight from my phone’s poor overheating processor

[abstract kindle]

perish

[kind nimbus]

Oh i turned apple Intelligence off

That's why image playground did not work lmao

[glass jetty]

why use apple

[frozen igloo]

Tastes like glass and chipped teeth

[kind nimbus]

I was a long time android user who recently switched to iOS and i gotta admit i prefer it

[glass jetty]

i actually start to think that phones are overrated
i would like to have just laptop on arm or something

[azure lynx]

all phones can do the same stuff. apple apps just look better.

[glass jetty]

no, really, think for a moment
why you need phone, if you can have just small laptop
only thing that is better with phone nowadays is that on phone you can respond quicker

[kind nimbus]

A phone is all about portability and mobility

Something that even a small laptop really isn't

[teal cipher]

the whole point of apple products used to be they offered quality and it reflected in pricing but nowadays they aren't so clearly ahead with that stuff... something like that anyway... also just convenience if someone really wanted their products to interact

[azure lynx]

i don't buy a new one every year. they last a few and stay pretty competitive. (do not want a bending phone ;/ )

still on a 15 pro max. i bet the new one is good. ;/

[kind nimbus]

17 pro max is awesome can confirm

I'm gonna keep this at least 5 or 6 years lol

[glass jetty]

i have budget phone from 2019 and not plan to buy new

[azure lynx]

i took a pay cut with a job change. i can still get a new phone but i now i need to think about it in advance. i hate planning. ;/

[glad path]

i do hope that the new ceo changes that

[glass jetty]

apple folk

[kind nimbus]

I hope that iOS 27 changes that

But tbh I'm currently on 26.5 and i don't really notice any bugs or issues

[glass jetty]

why not graphene os

[glad path]

I hope macos gets better

i also hope they help asahi linux

[azure lynx]

i think tim apple should've given jobs to the people.

[young plover]

The pixel hardware really sucks. I have a Pixel 10 with Graphene OS and I'm still using my Xperia 1 IV with a broken fingerprint scanner and no more software updates, because it's just plain better.

[kind nimbus]

This

Pixel hardware is several years behind competitors

[silent cloak]

Shame

We need to start doing phone builds like pc builds

[kind nimbus]

Tell fake Linus to invest more in framework

[opaque wharf]

Apple did say their justification to remove 3.5mm beside size is waterproofing soo

[frozen igloo]

[azure lynx]

it claims waterproof to 6m for 30 minutes

[silent cloak]

Phone companies seethe at the concept of custom built phones

[opaque wharf]

Because she is

[azure lynx]

custom built phones are infinitely more likely to cause problems with their networks.

[olive sable]

I have soldered the fuse onto the new DC-DC converter. I kinda had to cut into the housing to get acces to more wire cuz i broke the old wire

I also have tape and that weird measure thingy now

[frozen igloo]

Calipers

[azure lynx]

calipers?

[olive sable]

Sure

[opaque wharf]

If laptop manufacturer started adding 4G / eSIM into their motherboard, I'd agree with this sentiment

[silent cloak]

Better than the current path they are going on

Getting more and more locked down

[opaque wharf]

Caliper. Vernier Caliper

[olive sable]

old bussiness laptops had this feature. they could even connect to phoneline internet.
i know cuz i have one

[opaque wharf]

Exactly. They didn't make it more mainstream

[olive sable]

old hp probook my beloved

they dont make em like they used to

[azure lynx]

ipads can have cellular. people still use a phone.

[opaque wharf]

I can slap SIM8400 to framework tho

This stuff
https://en.simcom.com/product/SIM8400.html

[olive sable]

framework could just have a sim module ye

[kind nimbus]

Well a tablet just isn't portable

[olive sable]

the old acer mini-laptop laying around here is way smaller than my tablet

so idk

[silent cloak]

Honestly if we get more tools for building this sort of shit ourselves that would be nice

[azure lynx]

i played with a cellular modem for a while until my free credit on the data plan ran out.
i didn't get to play with voice though. it's not hard to make a phone: it's hard to make a phone you can sell.

[opaque wharf]

I wish we don't need a PC tho. Like, just carry around a single chip that can interface with any computer which automatically makes the computer like your own personal computer

Like, sure. Owning a computer is still viable

[azure lynx]

you mean a bootable linux distro or something?

[opaque wharf]

Yep

[kind nimbus]

It's hard to make a phone that actually has good usability aspects (UI + UX) and is well supported

[opaque wharf]

But like, actually useful

[silent cloak]

Sounds like a security risk

Depending on how its implemented

[azure lynx]

i assume it's encrypted if it's got anything sensitive on it.

[silent cloak]

Im saying like if the hardware is tampered with

[azure lynx]

also backed up regularly at your friend's place

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

Whats that goofy os on the right

[azure lynx]

if you don't trust the computer you shouldn'tplug your drive into it.

[olive sable]

android

[silent cloak]

Why does it look so fisher price

[olive sable]

this is litteraly the second day in a row someone asked me what os something is, and its jsut android

[silent cloak]

Like windows xp and leapfrog had a baby

[azure lynx]

the wallpaper

[olive sable]

yesterday was dex

[olive sable]

wallpaper engine

[azure lynx]

oops.. meant to reply to "why does it look so fisher price"

[olive sable]

its just android with a cute animated wallpaper 😭

[silent cloak]

I think its also how big everything is

With the simple launcher

Why are u running android on a laptop tho

[azure lynx]

it's probably a low res monitor

[olive sable]

its a tablet

check the message im replying to

[silent cloak]

Ohh

Reminds me of the Microsoft surface

I used to have one

[olive sable]

just a detachable magnetic keyboard that doubles as a cover

[azure lynx]

i had a suface on my desk at work coz the management person who bought it and wanted me to test it left the company before I could finish and it was never entered into the company records properly.
pita to use even with a dock. ;/
but in a pinch it was ok. not great.

[silent cloak]

I remember it had windows 8

Which blew

[azure lynx]

the one i used i think was windows 10... or 7. wasn't 8. the only person i know who liked 8 was my little brother.

[glass jetty]

usb things exist (and i have one, but practically for me it is impossible to use since mobile internet in my area completely disabled)
also it is hypothetical cuz you kinda have to use phone at least for sim and some bank apps

[blissful geyser]

sorry guys, off topic, but my project is finally done https://github.com/BorgorNinja/aura-launcher/

[glass jetty]

what is Jetpack Compose and Material 3 Expressive

if it is just framework

it is launcher for what?

[blissful geyser]

android launcher written in jetpack compose and yeah that

its my first time ever getting in mobile development

[glass jetty]

for what?

[opaque wharf]

Not phone, android

[rigid snow]

[opaque wharf]

But also, my bank has internet banking and sms banking

[rigid snow]

sms banking mmmm so secure

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, the interaction is not the best since it requires a different code each time

But also it is limited on what you can do

[glass jetty]

sms are not secure btw

just in case

[rigid snow]

i remember we used to have a thing where you’d tell siri to text a number something like “<your phone no> <amount>” and that would send you money from a locked phone

like 15 years. ago

or whenever siri came out

[jagged turtle]

why this even was thought of as a good idea without something else in place first remains to be told

[rigid snow]

what, sms banking or being able to text from a locked phone with siri

[glass jetty]

i forgot basic thing
what exactly index do? it rearrange data, or it just keep some table for quick access/inserts that use WHERE ?

[rigid snow]

?

[rigid snow]

both not very good ideas

[jagged turtle]

being able to send money from a locked phone

[opaque wharf]

It is indeed not secure. Doesn't mean any random person can intercept my sms without expensive hardware and targeted attack

[jagged turtle]

altho I maintain both being bad ideas

[rigid snow]

it’s a side effect of both together

not intended

[jagged turtle]

how would being able to text from a locked phone lead to sending money from a locked phone?

[rigid snow]

having sms banking

i just explained i believe

[jagged turtle]

oh icwym now

[unreal field]

don't they actually do that in china?

[wheat blaze]

Phone builds? Bruh

[unreal field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leFuF-zoVzA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyf-vkBZMgY

[wheat blaze]

Ik what's phone building

Except u use some hot glue etc to mend things together

Or stick it

[unreal field]

no different than zip-tying fans to a case

[ivory plinth]

oh hey ive seen this video befo- 9 years ago

[sage crag]

alive chat

[olive sable]

hi

im soldering rn

not much type

[rough bloom]

undead chat

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

[dire trout]

just looked at barred coding list for test and they banned arrays

great

[olive sable]

who needs an array, just use a vector

same thing but worse

[unreal field]

hi "soldering rn"!

[olive sable]

hi

no greeting for you

[dire trout]

[olive sable]

I formally don't acknowledge your presence, in defiance of the standard introductory social exchanges

[opaque sigil]

no program for you

[wheat blaze]

Vector database might be better?

And idk vector itself is even a thing lmao

[olive sable]

array is on the stack, vector is on the heap

iirc

the main difference comes down to that, and what that means in terms of them being editable and stuff

i think

its been a while

[tender river]

arrays can be wherever

but they are fixed size

vector is growable

in c++, that is

in some languages array types may be the equivalent of c++'s vector

[olive sable]

"std::array is stored on the stack and std::vector is stored on the heap" Yes but... this is only true if std::array is (part of) a local variable. If std::array is a member of an object that is stored on the heap, then std::array is stored with that object on the heap.

-guy on linked in

i see

[tender river]

std::array is different from c arrays though

but mhm its a thing as well

i like it because it has stl bells and whistles

[olive sable]

stl like the file format?

[opaque sigil]

technically you can use a custom allocator and put the elements in a std::vector on the stack

[tender river]

standard template library

technically c++ stdlib isnt stl, but it's based on stl so everyone calls it stl

[wheat blaze]

Uh heap I heard before but idk what lol

[wheat blaze]

It’s a growing array I see…

That thing in Java they call arraylisr

[olive sable]

stack is fast, heap is slower but more versitile

[wheat blaze]

Heap is array that grows u see?

[olive sable]

generally

[wheat blaze]

I sss

[wheat blaze]

Array list vs array lol

Finally after so long Ik what heap is

Is

Thanks

[olive sable]

its more general. every variable gets stored in either the stack or the heap

unless there are some exceptions i forgor

[opaque sigil]

stack is nice and ordered, heap is messy and goes through an allocator

[wheat blaze]

Heap is growing array that’s it I see
Other stuff aren’t as important to know

[opaque sigil]

no

[wheat blaze]

Or put simply
It grows to get messy?

Both will have their way of finding the index of a thing

[opaque sigil]

no it's just a memory region

[wheat blaze]

One slower?

[sage crag]

stack is preallocated memory to a program, heap is memory that can be allocated by system apis

[opaque sigil]

this, better explanation

[wheat blaze]

Ok

[sage crag]

both are equal in speed to read and write, but allocating fresh memory on the heap costs more

[olive sable]

stack nice ordered list, heap big blob of data

[opaque sigil]

there's also the heap data structure but that's separate

[wheat blaze]

So stack
List
Tree
Hashmap
Heap
Queue
So many weirdos

Generally whats the most used one?

Also is vector database similar to vector
Vector is heap right u say?

[opaque sigil]

arrays are used to implement all of these

[sage crag]

you should also note that reading or writing to a freshly allocated page of memory causes a page fault, which costs some cycles

[olive sable]

i feel like we arent there yet

thats more advanced

[wheat blaze]

Yeah Ik fix amount on fox position

[sage crag]

its an important real-world performance characteristic

[wheat blaze]

Array list, tree, hashmap can all be created from objects and arrays

[olive sable]

[wheat blaze]

Also why are company interview questions all about implement these when we can literally just use premade databases bruh

[opaque sigil]

not that important tbh but noteworthy

[wheat blaze]

Weird af

[sage crag]

it big difference in my VM

[opaque sigil]

that's an exception

[sage crag]

hav to use hugepages because it cuts the number of page faults by 512x (4kib page to 2mib page)

[olive sable]

they expect you to be able to be the guy making the premade ones

[opaque sigil]

it's an easy thing to test to see if you at least know anything

[sage crag]

ye in latency-critical circumstances hugepages are very good

especially with lots of unordered reads/writes

[wheat blaze]

For what bruh

[opaque sigil]

i remember having to use 64k pages for the gh200 but then ripgrep's allocator had a stroke

[wheat blaze]

Weird companies

[sage crag]

[kind fable]

p=np
Debate

[opaque sigil]

n=1

[sage crag]

or p=0

[opaque sigil]

true

[stark needle]

Most used stuff on higher level is list, hashmap, queue, while the rest is usually more lower level stuff afaik

[olive sable]

they want to hire the best person for the job. so if they have the choose between someone that knows data structures vs someone that doesn't

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

i will write a new hashmap

i motivated

[wheat blaze]

Well I can explain but not write it out lmao

I do for exam only

And understand

[sage crag]

lodi•pol

[stark needle]

Most coding interviews expect u to implement DSA

[wheat blaze]

Not really create something like bubble/quick sort, merge sort from code etfc

[wheat blaze]

Dsa is what

[sage crag]

quicksort

[wheat blaze]

Data s a?

[stark needle]

Data structures and algorithms

[opaque sigil]

hashmaps

[wheat blaze]

Oh ok yeah

[sage crag]

bloom filtrr

[opaque sigil]

hash distribution

[stark needle]

Bloom filter based hash map

[wheat blaze]

So disgusting

[sage crag]

quicksort asymptotic performance gets worse as the array approaches being sorted

[wheat blaze]

Ig I'll just fail those

[opaque sigil]

konii I had to use shitty hash functions for my bloom filter and it's so bad

[wheat blaze]

Those stuff I can't remember long term

[sage crag]

for most sorting operations, its an incremental sort

[wheat blaze]

No way remember just for interview everytime and forget

[olive sable]

in a shader????

[sage crag]

quicksort not very good for most real world use cases

[wheat blaze]

Best sort is whar

Also why quick isn't bestmvicthoguht it's quickest? It's merge on a little different way

[opaque sigil]

not technically a shader but yeah on the gpu

[sage crag]

always depends on the data

[olive sable]

im calling the police on toast

[stark needle]

For more junior positions they ask that kinda bs, for more senior it becomes more system design and experience

[wheat blaze]

That's like saying merge is worse than bubble sort cuz u lucky lmao

[opaque sigil]

Alu pipeline already too highly utilised the good hash functions broke everything

[sage crag]

no it isnt

[wheat blaze]

Best for overall is what tho?
Or best few

[sage crag]

but merge can be worse than bubble if the hidden coefficients are right

[opaque sigil]

you go make a bloom filter on the gpu without hashing

[wheat blaze]

Yeah senior cuz u wrote before so it's not too hard

But for 0 experience 4y college it's hard

[sage crag]

it depends on the size of the array and the type of data

[olive sable]

ive spent ab hour soldering the hard part, and 2 hours fucking up the easy part

[wheat blaze]

Well then what's the few best sorts?

[olive sable]

idk, what i was trying to type there

[stark needle]

Bogosort/cosmic ray sort

[opaque sigil]

[sage crag]

for short lists, insertion sort nearly always beats quicksort despite having worse asymptotic complexity because of hidden coefficients, especially where the list is nearly sorted

most standard libraries dont use a single algorithm for array sorting, they pick an algorithm based on a heuristic

[olive sable]

the best way to sort is to rerun the program until the cpu put it in the correct location during the init shuffle

[opaque sigil]

now that I think about it

[olive sable]

the average will be worse, but the pb will be better

[opaque sigil]

are there avx implementations of the various sorting algorithms and would that even make sense

I feel like you should be able to make it work

[olive sable]

there are some yes

[sage crag]

when optimising, we always optimise for the worst case

[olive sable]

nuh-uh

[sage crag]

worst real case

[olive sable]

or well, for what i do im indeed optemizing for worst case

but for this its funny to get lower time

[sage crag]

if you know the data you can narrow the definition of real

[olive sable]

true

[wheat blaze]

That's random sort

[olive sable]

no, the crucial difference is that its a seperate run

[tender river]

[sage crag]

hashmap sequential access

[opaque sigil]

fun fact, the duplicate DNA in the human genome made my cuckoo filter insertion 3400x slower than the new bloom filter
small slowdown

[sage crag]

hashmap feels like a veru gpu task

lots of random access

[opaque sigil]

lol no

[sage crag]

it is

[tender river]

hashmaps hard to do in parallel

[opaque sigil]

it's so bad
but you can brute force with sheer parallelism and memory bandwidth I guess

[sage crag]

hard not mean suboptimal

big gpu

gpu big

[olive sable]

toast, how exactly did you make bloom filter?

[tender river]

kni memory

bloom filter

[opaque sigil]

it helps that memory bandwidth is the only thing that really matters and the one thing Nvidia/amd care enough to improve

I sat down and wrote some code

[olive sable]

i meant may i see the code?

[opaque sigil]

sure gimme a sec internet do be shit

https://github.com/tdortman/cuSBF

[wheat blaze]

What stuff do interviews today like to ask?
Other than system design and job specific requirements (uh probably this is most of it I think)

[olive sable]

things about you as a person i guess

[wheat blaze]

Oh yeah those

And ofc weird ones

[opaque sigil]

what's your favourite colour

[wheat blaze]

I once got asked
We have a robotic and data analysis(the one closer to bower bi not analysis)
When I'm data science/swe resume

Then I pick data analysis one then they ask ur stuff is not suited for that why should we hire u...

Like wtf lol

If they know they don't have a role for me why they interview

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1425445907586879530/1507983441893789827/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_1.gif

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-boom-thoughts-anime-girl-boom-thoughts-gif-3847619567883703209

[wheat blaze]

Business analytics I mean

While the closest thing D's and business analytics has in common is data representation

[sage crag]

talking to self

[wheat blaze]

At most I say I have accounting knowledge in high school...

[wheat blaze]

I do this in most discord smh

[sage crag]

dont

[opaque sigil]

[wheat blaze]

Tho idk how to use it as an advantage for content creation

Like recording urself for YouTube

[sage crag]

[wheat blaze]

Cuz my ideas don't last long

[opaque sigil]

I don't want to leave this train the AC is so nice

[sage crag]

are you a markov chain

]

[wheat blaze]

Idk what's that

[wheat blaze]

I'm ant memory

[olive sable]

what i jsut did has got to be the worst solder job ive ever done

[wheat blaze]

.

?

[trim valve]

[stark needle]

Show

[opaque sigil]

so far

[olive sable]

If my solder skills get even worse then i might aswell just pay someone else to do this instead 😭

[stark needle]

Bro soldering cant be that hard

[olive sable]

my soldering iron is kind bad, was only 6 euro

doesnty get up to temp that weell

[stark needle]

My sister can do that 😭 unless ur doing some sort of hard different soldering

[stark needle]

Ok yeah that explains lol

I also had trash experiences with a bad iron

[olive sable]

Thosd bridged pads arent shorted btw

Or well, they're supposed to be, they're both the + side

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

I kinda broke the pcb mask thingy

the gross stuff on there is flux

[opaque sigil]

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-cuda-13-3-enhances-gpu-development-with-tile-programming-in-c-compiler-autotuning-and-python-updates/ oh finally, cutile c++

ooooooh c++23 support, fuck yeah

std::println my beloved

time to make cuda 13.3 the minimum supported version

[olive sable]

i should prob test if i fucked up on a cheaper phone brick than the 140W one

the smasnug 7.8W shall lay down its life for science

ok it worked, negotiated to 5V

the smasnug shall see another day

[trim valve]

bro

[olive sable]

😭

i know

[trim valve]

are you like completely just not using flux or something

[olive sable]

the flux is bad too

its in a small bottle

on YouTube they have it on a ribbon

[trim valve]

the ribbon is for like

removing solder

[olive sable]

i see

anyways, i let it run for a bit longer and then it started bootlooping

so its fucked maybe

i wonder whats shorting

[trim valve]

you have a multimeter right

do some continuity checks

[olive sable]

alright

the ground from the usb is supposed to connect to the connector metal itself right?

usb metal directly connects tot he ground wire so that's good

[opaque sigil]

Minor bug fixes and improvements

thanks nvidia, very helpful

there's a new feature branch driver apparently, 610

Added support for creating Vulkan logical devices from multiple physical devices
isn't this kinda huge

[olive sable]

• and - are shorted with 20 ohms of resistance

hmm

[iron steppe]

Typical GitHub commit

[stark needle]

Bro what

[olive sable]

the pads you can visibly see connected are both positive pads

cuz this thing can come with multiple different connectors

[opaque sigil]

yeah but don't put this in release notes

[opaque wharf]

Honestly, I prefer this than supporting old minimum version but not max latest version

[opaque sigil]

same but as much as I'd love to do this it's not worth it

maybe when 13.4 rolls around I guess

tbf at the moment the minimum is 13.1 so does it really matter

[opaque wharf]

Wdym bootlooping?

[olive sable]

im geussing the chargers short protection kicks in

and then after a bit tries again

[opaque wharf]

What is the supposed output?

[olive sable]

supposed?

im trying on a cheap charger brick rn so 5V

it does do 5V, but its shorted somewhere

its a shakey short

[trim valve]

[trim valve]

welcome back sli

[opaque sigil]

apparently they technically already supported the extension but it just didn't work?

unless this is separate

[tender river]

@olive sable you will be graded

remember this information

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM73MvhZM_o

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, like USB PD can do a lot of voltage. What is the voltage that you set the PD trigger board to?

[olive sable]

28v, but it just goes to the highest available if it cant get that

[olive sable]

okay

which eye do i use?

yes they're differently colourblind

one is more green

[sage crag]

that means you see more colours with both eyes open

[olive sable]

yes

slightly morr

i see the same things tho, just differently

[opaque wharf]

I would be concerned if you see a different things with different eyes when pointing to the same direction

[olive sable]

well

i see different things

cuz its slightly more green

but its also the same thing

[nocturne olive]

[faint sandal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkDKmSMvfmk

[opaque sigil]

this is how we're going to solve the energy problem, humans are full of energy

[wheat blaze]

https://youtube.com/shorts/zVMai5l1gWg?si=EfUiQUljDsLFAu6M
found it

[wheat blaze]

What beat?

[kind nimbus]

July 14th is going to be fun lmao

[opaque wharf]

Ngl, I really want to know wtf is happening behind MS doors for him to go mental

[nocturne olive]

Microslop is gonna see what happens when you upset a security researcher real bad

[sick owl]

Pulling the EAGLE3 PR for LLaMa.cpp

Lets see if I can't get Gemma 4 26BA4B Q8 hitting 100t/s

[kind nimbus]

They laid him off without paying any bounty or anything so he went rogue

[nocturne olive]

Theoretically should be possible if inference time of MoE models scales with the active parameters size rather than total parameters size

[opaque wharf]

No, we actually don't know what happened. That's just speculation as both party doesn't really disclose anything more than "MS left me homeless"

Sure we can speculate that he didn't get paid, but why specifically is he not getting paid

[kind nimbus]

Yeah but that's like 90% the case

What else would that mean?

[opaque wharf]

Idk, for all we know it could be the dude is asking for his exploit to be categorized differently

[kind nimbus]

My guess is they downplayed the impact of his research and now they're paying for it

[opaque wharf]

Look at his bitlocker "exploit". The technicality of it makes it NOT a bitlocker exploit BUT it does bypass bitlocker

[kind nimbus]

Well

[opaque wharf]

Exactly. That's what I wanted to know

[kind nimbus]

In the end the impact in this case the bypass is what matters

[opaque wharf]

Yes, but it also matters HOW ms setup their security disclosure frameworks

Maybe they don't do the classification by what gets bypassed but by what component is actually exploited

[kind nimbus]

Maybe

[opaque wharf]

Which is why I wanted to actually know wtf is happening for him to get so pissed lol

[sick owl]

I have to offload a few layers to fit the model, right now I get around 70 tokens per second

[nocturne olive]

[sick owl]

I'm hoping speculative decoding can offset that cost

[nocturne olive]

Right 24GB vs 26GB model

[sick owl]

The Gemma 4 models are the perfect size to annoy specifically me

[nocturne olive]

[sick owl]

MoE just barely needs offloading and 31B is just barely out of reach at decent quality

If the dense one was a 27B model or QAT release it would be a slam dunk

[nocturne olive]

[true hemlock]

q6?

[nocturne olive]

I have to run the Qwen 27B model at IQ4_XS or something for it to fit properly

Forgor if that was the exact quant

[sick owl]

Q6 doesn't fit even with just 16k context

[true hemlock]

Q4

[sick owl]

Actually it doesn't fit period

[sick owl]

Not worth it at that point imo

Q8 26BA4B makes more sense than lobotomising the 31B model

[true hemlock]

is the Q4 bad

[sick owl]

Fairly yeah, in fact most of the recent crop of open weight models don't quant down to 4 bit gracefully at all

Kimi being an exception since it had QAT

[true hemlock]

get more gpu and distribute layers

[sick owl]

https://giphy.com/gifs/grumpy-KYoJoXvFUGHcs

[nocturne olive]

If it was that simple I would have had 10 GPUs ages ago

[true hemlock]

honestly im surprised you didn't have more than your 4090

[sick owl]

I generally trade in my prior GPU to offset the cost of the next gen of hardware

[true hemlock]

i was expecting you to be at least loaded enough for hardware tbh