programming

[azure lynx]

i'd like symbiotic algae like those salamanders.

[sage crag]

i hav trauma

[fast pagoda]

gen Z and especially alpha are super mega non drinkers also

[opaque wharf]

[rigid snow]

not you personally

[azure lynx]

alcohol is actually not a very good drug. I'm an adult and don't drink anymore.

[opaque wharf]

We need to campaign for vedal to stop drinking

[tender river]

i've tried it and it
does almost nothing to me

[rigid snow]

it’s really not a good drug but it’s such an integral part of so many cultures it just doesn’t make sense to me

[fast pagoda]

i used to drink way more than i should have and gave it up almost completel

[kind nimbus]

Agree there are more fun drugs than alcohol

[teal cipher]

my card game is getting total makeover and bunch of improvements... this is crazy

[trim valve]

idk if I've just like not found the right group, but most of the recent times I've gone out drinking i've not stuck around

[olive sable]

Where i live we just drink more casually instead of competitive.

[rigid snow]

am gen z am super drinker (or was when i could) but also eastern european so

[azure lynx]

you probably didn't have enough... alcohol affects everyone. but staying at a low level of intoxication makes interacting with people easier... you're less inhibited.
ideally you don't want to notice the effect.

[trim valve]

last one I left because I got scared by one of the people in the group at a wetherspoons

[sage crag]

my mother only has 1 kidney

[fast pagoda]

alcohol only becomes fun when you've gone past what would be remotely healthy to drink + guaranteed you'll be in a bad mental state if your goal is to not alienate friends/family/partners

for me

[tender river]

i drank half a bottle of vodka

[warped narwhal]

In Scotland, we have ranked competetive drinking

[fast pagoda]

i have to drink a stupid amount for it to be worth it because otherwise it's like mild wobble at best

[sage crag]

i dunno what happened to the other one

[fast pagoda]

and what's the fucking point

[warped narwhal]

Well good thing alchohol hits the liver instead

[sage crag]

but i have two

[fast pagoda]

alcohol fucks up every organ in some form

[warped narwhal]

How much is an nvidia stock unit rn?

[fast pagoda]

that part is the other reason i dont

[warped narwhal]

$212 or ~£150

[kind nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1422537017006227466/neuro_weed.gif

[trim valve]

and like before that I just realised it was kinda a waste of time for me

[tender river]

i guess i'm too inhibited to notice the reduction in inhibition

[sage crag]

how pretty is the buyer

[rigid snow]

i say we sell her to #neurotic-neurons

[sage crag]

do not

[olive sable]

Alpha isnt even old enough to drink

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/npc-black-broken-stuck-glitched-gif-27545240

[warped narwhal]

We're looking to sell for profit, not sentence them to death

[opaque wharf]

How old are they again?

[sage crag]

3 beans and a fiddle

[rigid snow]

do not look up how many messages konii has in nn

[sage crag]

no.

[trim valve]

craig !!

[sage crag]

ye

[opaque wharf]

And how long is that in bime?

[warped narwhal]

above or below 10k?

[fast pagoda]

theyre nearly 18 but damn for some reason i thought they started in like

2005

[sage crag]

[opaque wharf]

Oldge

[rigid snow]

i forgor but above

[stark needle]

who is alpha

[rigid snow]

probably

[opaque wharf]

The one before beta

[fast pagoda]

2010+

[rigid snow]

i

[sage crag]

ª

[fast pagoda]

birth year

[rigid snow]

am alpha male

[stark needle]

oooooooooooooooohhhhh gen alpha

[fast pagoda]

lmao

[sage crag]

its crazy 2010 feels like a decade ago

[fast pagoda]

it's me ya boi alpha

[sage crag]

[fast pagoda]

[warped narwhal]

it was

[sage crag]

[warped narwhal]

almost 2 decades now

[azure lynx]

i think gender is a social construct used to oppress people. what generation am I?

[stark needle]

what are 5 tips to succeed in attracting women

[sage crag]

any of the above

[kind nimbus]

16 years..... I feel oldge

[teal cipher]

I like my sound system but it has this stupid "not enough audio going on, I might as well go to sleep mode"

[warped narwhal]

People born in 2010 are now able to drive

[sage crag]

1. be a woman
2. be gay
3. do crime
4. eat cheese
5. assimilation

[restive cloak]

Guy’s what will y’all do if you had an idea of a program that my help in daily life and you said to yourself “wonderful, i will work on this program in the weekend”but you suddenly forgot it….

[sage crag]

i couldnt continue to live

[kind nimbus]

auto standby ?

I think it can be disabled on some systems.

My active subwoofer does it when there is no LFE signal for a while.

[warped narwhal]

I had a stroke reading this, so maybe consider writing a spell checker?

[stark needle]

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

[olive sable]

[restive cloak]

Nice idea!!!!, this may sounds crazy but you reminded me of it

[sage crag]

this gif keeps reminding me i want to steal her necklace

[olive sable]

It shouldn't do that

[sage crag]

oh

[stark needle]

is the perfect alpha male actually a lesbian woman

[olive sable]

As long as its receiving signal it should stay on

[restive cloak]

Aha

[azure lynx]

accept the fact that you will never have a good idea in your life again and learn to drive a semi-truck.

[sage crag]

no, its above

[warped narwhal]

Semi?

[teal cipher]

I just think it's something inbuilt... because I don't think I have anything in windows to tell to use sleep mode... it's annoying if let's say there is stream with barely audio going on it can in half of hour or something just decide to go that standby mode yeah XD

[restive cloak]

Yup maybe i will get a driving license for that first

[azure lynx]

not "pick-up" i mean like truck that has a trailer

[stark needle]

[warped narwhal]

; truck?

[sage crag]

i think; i am

[restive cloak]

CDL i guess

[sage crag]

i am; i truck

[rigid snow]

1. drink alcohol 2. smoke cigarette 3. go outside 4. stop programming or become webdev or manager 5. looksmax (non-negotiable, you have to break down in tears each time you look at yourself in a mirror because your ego is so fragile and you can't stand even the smallest imperfection in your looks and girls won't talk to you anyway and then you'll blame the girls and

[warped narwhal]

Incorrect use of a semicolon, prepare to be shot

[restive cloak]

With a trailer?

[sage crag]

you need to buy a set of mini hammers

to hammer your jawline

[stark needle]

sory oopb not usa

[sage crag]

its not incorrect

[trim valve]

I think ∴ I am

triangle

[stark needle]

wtf is ∴

[warped narwhal]

Therefor

[kind nimbus]

Oh computer audio system i thought we are talking about a home cinema system

Mhhh

Is it connected to some form of AVR or DAC ?

Maybe there are settings for it idk.

[warped narwhal]

math symbol

[azure lynx]

realistically, 1 and 3 (and maybe a shower and clean clothes) and you're probably fine. if that's what you want.

[stark needle]

@olive sable another triangle

[sage crag]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therefore_sign

[olive sable]

No. They dont have raster

[stark needle]

idk im too dumb for all this math stuff maybe in another life

[olive sable]

Thats vertex only

Like a loser

[azure lynx]

the trick with computers and math is that its all just lots of easy math.
or you can use a library.

[sage crag]

it very simple
x - 1 = 0
∴ x = 0 + 1 = 1

[fast pagoda]

hello zeta male here attracting women is easy simply be yourself

[olive sable]

"Hard math is just a lot of easy math"
Ye thats what makes it hard

[sage crag]

what if its not working

[fast pagoda]

become someone else

[olive sable]

You need to go where the partners you want hang out

[tender river]

steal their identity

forge your documents

[sage crag]

i have a clone

[kind nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-moment-starwarsdude-starwarsdudeserver-villain-gif-11200585753299367721

[fast pagoda]

honestly ive never actively sought a partner at least at first it kinda jus happens ig (fr moment)

[sage crag]

shouldnt it be your filial duty to find a second mother? im yet again disappointed

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

i tried playing matchmaker and that's how we ended up with hulk hogan mom

[azure lynx]

if someone else became you, you would be them. you'd still have exactly your same situations.

[sage crag]

unfilial child

lacking piety

[fast pagoda]

filian child

[olive sable]

Asking your children to find a partner is so sad

[sage crag]

i sentence you to 4 decades of meritorious service and a century of meditating at the cliff of reflection

[azure lynx]

sounds like a disney movie plot.

[fast pagoda]

the cliff turns me away for i am not

[rigid snow]

true...

[sage crag]

its great because i dont have any children

only failures

[fast pagoda]

WTF

[sage crag]

im sorry

[olive sable]

Anime title: My mom is a Girlfailure

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

[rigid snow]

[fast pagoda]

id watch

[olive sable]

Girfailure is such a mean way to word it too

[fast pagoda]

right now

take my money

[sage crag]

i wont watch

[rigid snow]

" "

[warped narwhal]

would you prefer "failure girl"?

[sage crag]

[fast pagoda]

that's cuz u star

[olive sable]

No

[sage crag]

i prefer the term invalid

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

[azure lynx]

girlfailure == boy?

[olive sable]

Using the word failure to describe someone without a partner is bad

[sage crag]

true, however

[olive sable]

What are you laughing at?

[sage crag]

...myself

[fast pagoda]

(no partner)

[rigid snow]

i thought -failure meant in life, not "lacks partner"

[kind fable]

I'm a failure 😭

[rigid snow]

is a successful businesswoman that has no partner a girlfailure

[fast pagoda]

yes

super fail

[azure lynx]

i'm a success. i just don't have a partner because I'm not well suited to being around other people all the time.
also i'm enby so.....

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

super fail no cuddling

[olive sable]

Bred is the only non-fail

[trim valve]

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

being a failure is apparently ephemeral since you can suddenly not be enpartnered at any time

[kind fable]

One day i'll find someone

[trim valve]

ngl sam I thought you were using girlfailure in the sense that it gets used online earlier and it caught me off guard

[kind fable]

I hope

[warped narwhal]

Welcome to #programming everyone

[fast pagoda]

girlfailure online just means the opposite of girlboss

[olive sable]

Am i not using the term correctly?

[warped narwhal]

that's a weird looking pigeon

[azure lynx]

i think "girl failure" is usually applied to females adults who don't know how to look after themselves and haven't got their life together.

[fast pagoda]

yep but in a cute way or something

whatever that means

[sage crag]

its an aesthetic

[trim valve]

i think its probably right given your definition, but im used to hearing it in trans circles as "im such a girlfailure" either when it comes to being woefully incompetent at cooking or just general self esteem

[rigid snow]

it's an ✨ aesthetic ✨

[azure lynx]

e.g. maybe a specific green haired vtuber is an example

[fast pagoda]

tbh i got passed over for a position at work last year along with some other peers and i made a group chat to discuss it and called it <position>-girlfailures in slack

worked well

i am not female

[olive sable]

Oh, i see

[warped narwhal]

tehe, I forgot to do the dishes for 3 weeks and I havent showered for a month, now I've contracted chlamydia whoopsie I'm so silly~~~~

[trim valve]

icl I just use it as a funny way to refer to people who suck at a task

[sage crag]

my eyes are so itchy

[fast pagoda]

eyefailure

[olive sable]

Yes you are

[sage crag]

if i were a. bee

[fast pagoda]

my honest reaction

[sage crag]

i would die

[rigid snow]

you would be a bee

be bee

[fast pagoda]

bzz

[trim valve]

don't tempt me into vrchat

[sage crag]

bee zee zee

[trim valve]

I will spend money on a vr headset and then never touch vrchat again

[azure lynx]

bees are almost all girls.

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

cia document

[warped narwhal]

[trim valve]

[fast pagoda]

you should've seen it during the server build

[tender river]

not to brag but
its safe to say im the biggest failure out of the #programming regulars

[sage crag]

this censor job is really poor

[olive sable]

I had to remove half of it for witness protection, and the other half for banned words in neurocord

[trim valve]

i heard you lot were losing your minds

[rigid snow]

lmao

[warped narwhal]

Nice

[kind fable]

I'm such a boyfailure
I can make eggs tho
I can also cook pasta

[azure lynx]

i could only watch the first part of the server build. it was too painful.

[fast pagoda]

mainly quack was writing up the google dockey on fails

[sage crag]

what is the connection between reading yuri angst, having debilitating hayfever, and wanting to eat food so spicy it reduces my ability to move

[fast pagoda]

and there was a lot of dooming

[rigid snow]

surprisingly not a lot of ing

[tender river]

the connection is konii

[warped narwhal]

I saw staz's thumbnail for the server build and he had renamed livestream chat to "suicide-watch" and I can't think of anything more accurate. That build was painful to watch

[fast pagoda]

believe it or not

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

miku here

is britannia lol

[rigid snow]

fortnite miku

[sage crag]

the miku

[sage crag]

unexpected physique

[fast pagoda]

🦆 on the left

VERY testosterone infused

[olive sable]

I think that just makes you a normal person with hayfever

[sage crag]

it make me a kni with hayfever

and tears

[fast pagoda]

the knights that say kni

[rigid snow]

🐇fer

[olive sable]

You're not the only lesbian who likes spicey food but cant find a partner i know

[sage crag]

chapter 1 transmigrated into a book

[trim valve]

wrr

[sage crag]

chapter 2 ending it all

chapter 3 epilogue

[trim valve]

can gabe deposit a steam frame directly onto my desk

[rigid snow]

try emailing him

[olive sable]

[teal cipher]

as I complained about my sound aystem I should mention my new keyboard has an incovenience of being shaped so that my mouse can get under it and cause uninteded clicks or changing volume XD

[sage crag]

im the only me in this country

[fast pagoda]

im actually the miku of all time

that's right

it's true

[azure lynx]

sometimes I sneeze sometimes when reading similar material... just like going out in bright sunlight. perhaps it's a trigeminal nerve related reflex and not allegies?

[tender river]

thank you for creating minecraft

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

you are welcome citizen

[sage crag]

no i

i hav debilitating allergies

currently dying

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

took 3 hayfever pills

wish me luck

[fast pagoda]

i bought quest 3 on launch and didnt use it at all

till like

last week

well

april 17

[olive sable]

We need te put konii in place without hay

Antartica

[fast pagoda]

and uh

[sage crag]

but what will i eat

[tender river]

i somehow managed to avoid allergies my whole life

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

unfriend

[fast pagoda]

same

[kind nimbus]

Lmao

[sage crag]

disown

[olive sable]

The other researchers

[trim valve]

im kinda tempted by a quest but want something thatll work on linux

and idk how good quests are for that

[fast pagoda]

it works

[trim valve]

also 144hz on the frame is a nice touch

[fast pagoda]

use wivrn

[sage crag]

bred

[fast pagoda]

my quest3 does 120

[sage crag]

owobred

hav you seen

[fast pagoda]

not too bad

[sage crag]

waylandcraft

[fast pagoda]

hilarious compositor

[trim valve]

I saw

[sage crag]

its compatible with vr

[olive sable]

It works. Even the old rift works if you're willing to deal with some jank

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

when vrchat as wayland compositor

[trim valve]

I could steal an original rift from someone

[azure lynx]

ihave an old rift... can i still use than in linux without needing to setup the facebook stuff?

[sage crag]

waylandcraft needs to be upgraded to a remote desktop as well

[fast pagoda]

technically with the way the quest at least works i can just do essentially thjat

[olive sable]

It works fine-ish

Tip

If you start steamvr

Try to get far away from the sensors so the vibration is smaller

That seems to work for me

[azure lynx]

I'll keep that in mind if I decide to unpack it again.

[kind nimbus]

anti allergic bunny food

[azure lynx]

wouldn't it be ironic if you were allergic to alfafa or whatever lops eat?

[kind nimbus]

It should work via ALVR

[fast pagoda]

alvr also works

[olive sable]

https://gitlab.com/TacoCake/oculus-rift-openhmd-steamvr/-/blob/main/README.md

This is what im using, except the nixos version so i has to do some things my own way

Dont start a game in vr mode, first start steamvr separately and then start the game in vr mode

[trim valve]

I'll think about it

getting vr is still more money than not getting vr

[fast pagoda]

quest 2 = 60 bux

[olive sable]

Its a bit annoying but if you already have a rift its not too much annoyance to deal with

In terms of value its better to get something newer tho

The specs of the rift arent bad compared to quest 2 tho

[trim valve]

ooh I found a decent local one on marketplace

tempted

[fast pagoda]

steam is basically able to do it

[olive sable]

Quest 2 is higher res

Rift is oled

You win some you lose some

[fast pagoda]

rift is also just oldge as fuck

[olive sable]

But it works fine

[fast pagoda]

for ??????? unknown

long

[olive sable]

I havent upgraded cuz the quests arent oled

[azure lynx]

rift is "It's still in the closet coz i haven't thrown it out" but also "already have rift".

[fast pagoda]

i'd honestly take the 120 hz of quest's lcd vs rift's oled but 60hz

[kind fable]

Rift you mean the minecraft modloader ?

No way rift minecraft mentionned

[fast pagoda]

90hz*

[olive sable]

Id rather deal with driver jank for psvr than use lcd grays

[olive sable]

90hz

Rift is 90

[trim valve]

you just reminded me of the old vivecraft thing I played ages ago

[fast pagoda]

yea i corrected after

[trim valve]

#baking vr minecraft server when

[olive sable]

I could set one up i guess

[olive sable]

I already have enough eyestrain with oled. Lcd will just make it worse

To me it isnt about theoretical performance, but usability

[fast pagoda]

it also has a significantly lower FOV, no passthrough, doesnt need a base station,

[warped narwhal]

Eyestrain? that sounds more like a focus thing than a brightness thing

[fast pagoda]

i'd imagine the pancake lenses of the q3 would help with the strain more than oled blacks tbh

[warped narwhal]

You don't happen to wear glasses do you?

[olive sable]

Passthrough is useless to me, and base stations are okay for me. The fov doesnt matter too much either

[azure lynx]

i had to use the rift without my glasses so I could focus properly

[olive sable]

I dont

[olive sable]

Nah its def the brightness

[kind nimbus]

I get eyestrain from pwm.

Usually lcd is easier on the eyes compared to oled.

[fast pagoda]

that is odd because most of the time you're not looking at pure black

[olive sable]

Its the same kind of eyehurt i get when i go outside after doing an all-nighter

[warped narwhal]

Eyestrain usually happens in vr cause the screens have a focal length of around 2m, which some people's eyes can't hold naturally

[azure lynx]

turn the brightness down ;]

[fast pagoda]

hence pancake lens

[warped narwhal]

I thought they had the same focal distance?

[kind fable]

Guys look at the future
Surely AI agents is the way, we must commit
https://workos.com/auth-md

[azure lynx]

i get sore eyes going outside during the day but VR was fine. nothing like as bright.

[olive sable]

That, or i just use oled and get a lower overall brightness while keeping the highlights bright

[fast pagoda]

the lenses on the quest3 are significantly more comfortable to look through than rift S was for me

the brightness didnt matter really

[olive sable]

It does for me, idk

[fast pagoda]

the issue with the old was the fringes

[olive sable]

The fringes?

[fast pagoda]

way clearer area to focus on with these

[trim valve]

also @fast pagoda you have given me a terrible idea I now wanna try in vr

[fast pagoda]

the outer edges of the scene

[olive sable]

?

[fast pagoda]

do et

[kind fable]

LGTM

[olive sable]

I dont have any issues with the outside area of the screen

Looks fine

[fast pagoda]

they just have infinitely better chromatic abberration without needing to be corrected in software

[warped narwhal]

The issue I was thinking of was focal plane distance.

[trim valve]

quest 3 spenny

[warped narwhal]

If it's too close you can get eye strain cause the lenses in your eyes can't settle

[fast pagoda]

pancake lets the screen be way closer to your eye

[olive sable]

All of the quests are basically a no for me cuz of lcd. PSVR2 with th pc adapter looks way more appealing to me in that regard

[azure lynx]

how does the Pancake lens work if not refraction? ;/ ;[

[fast pagoda]

that's why 3s is dummy thicc

no pancake

that's like the only difference between the two i think

[warped narwhal]

I don't mean how close they physically are, I mean how close they appear to be

How "straight" the light coming out of them is

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

oooh yeah I saw that option too

[fast pagoda]

it's baased on polarization

which includes refraction obviously

fresnel lenses are 1 pass refraction

if you want 40mm focal length

you have to have 40mm in the headset

pancake folds it up

[olive sable]

I just wished all the PSVR2 features worked properly on pc

[fast pagoda]

Light enters polarized

1 way

bounces off a curved mirror

comes back

hits a polarizer that's now aligned to let it through, and exits

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

eye tracking works now iirc

[fast pagoda]

the reason quest 3 is an LCD is actually the pancake as well because OLED are not bright enough

[olive sable]

They are bright enough, but the price woukd go up

[fast pagoda]

you'd need like micro OLED brightness aka infinite cost increase

right because you'd need a better oled

[olive sable]

Ye

I dont think micro oled is necessary just for brightness increase

[fast pagoda]

micro oled is liek

3x brighter

or more

[olive sable]

But ye. If PSVR2 worked fully on pc that'd be instantly what id want to use

[fast pagoda]

psvr is cheap same reason as quest is cheap no

sony subsidizes it

[olive sable]

Its all just a matter of driving more power to it. Micro-oled gets brighter because its more efficient.

Something something glass substrate vs silicon

[fast pagoda]

Right but that's why you'd need micro in a headset because of the efficiency

To get an OLED that bright with its substrate would kill the power

I think Apple vision pro uses a sony WOLED

[olive sable]

I mean. Im using wired so i dont care if they push 100W to the headset.

[fast pagoda]

Well you may not care but the headset maker does

Otherwise they have to sell a headset with even worse battery life lol

[olive sable]

Psvr2 dont have battery

I dont want a battery

[patent shard]

apparently the internal screen is Sony and the external is LG Display

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

Holy fuck I forgot that the vision pro had the external screen to show spooky ass eyes on it Lol

What a feature

And that's why you either have battery mixed reality stuff with LCD or you have oleds and shit in wired only headsets or it costs infinity money instead

Cost vs complexity vs featureset

Crazy

[olive sable]

Ye

I guess it depends on what the consumer wants

[fast pagoda]

I honestly like the battery if only for being unshackled

[patent shard]

and they used OLED for it

just for the crappy screen

[fast pagoda]

Apple moment

[olive sable]

Quest is completely the opposite of what i want in a vr headset

I want oled, high refreshrate, and wired

[fast pagoda]

There are headsets like that out there

[patent shard]

I mean, Apple can just charge 500 bucks more and still make over 3x more margins for using OLED instead of an LCD for the external screen

probably close to 5x, I doubt the screen is that expensive

[olive sable]

I think its custom for the apple vision pro

So probably not too cheap

Couple hundred maybe

[patent shard]

yeah, I guess volume wasn't super high

[azure lynx]

your head would certainly care thought. just putting a VR visor on without turning it on makes you (as a human) expend more energy and get warmer and so sweat to get rid of the heat. if you're adding 100W of heating right near your head your going to have to do quite a lot of cooling.

[olive sable]

put fan in headset

cools

[fast pagoda]

steam frame will be LCD as well

[olive sable]

[azure lynx]

fans make noise.

annoying while gaming

[olive sable]

i dont care

[azure lynx]

i do

[olive sable]

use headset

[azure lynx]

most people do

they have headsets built in (some of them)

[olive sable]

you cant tell me people using vr headsets dont use audio

[fast pagoda]

i dunno i have used a rift S and i barely notice the black levels thing while i suuuuuper notice the lenses

[azure lynx]

they get hot

[fast pagoda]

coming from someone with a very expens=ive oled main monitor on pc

where i DO notice it

[olive sable]

fan noise isnt that bad

it really isnt

[azure lynx]

wear a fan on your head for a few hours

[olive sable]

pico 4 ultra, HTC vive focus vision, the valve steam frame

[fast pagoda]

i have a fan on my headset

on purpose lolol

it air conditions my noggin

[olive sable]

ye

its really not bad

[azure lynx]

if you don't have a fan you get hot. if you do have a fan, you get noise.

[olive sable]

id rahter have a fan than nothing

the noise isnt noticable

[olive sable]

if you use proper fans at least, ofcourse if you use the ultra shitfans 4000 they will be noisy

[fast pagoda]

That makes me want to use

One of these mfs

[olive sable]

[azure lynx]

"with our new cooling fan you won't be able to fall over on your face because it's sucking so much air past you"

[fast pagoda]

honestly

these push so much air

it'd be so nice lmao

loud as FUCK

but nice

[azure lynx]

if you had like ear pods on inside it maybe?

[olive sable]

but like i said, people using vr headsets will be using earphones or headphones anyways, one small fan to cool the oleds isnt that much of a bother

[fast pagoda]

i use headphones

[rigid snow]

cheese

[fast pagoda]

iems usually

[olive sable]

@opaque wharf

[fast pagoda]

https://pimax.com/pages/pimax-crystal-super here bro here's your 120hz (QLED version)

[azure lynx]

i haven't used VR for years. now that i'm exercising again it might be good for winter.

[fast pagoda]

50ppd qled anyways

[olive sable]

yes, this is exactly what i want

[frozen igloo]

Have the pc fan pedal powered so if you stop exercising, your pc overheats
(No bathroom breaks allowed)

[olive sable]

only 90Hz tho

it is 8K tho so cant be too picky

[fast pagoda]

nah the 50ppd one is 102

120

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

both say 90

[fast pagoda]

you can actually swap them out

oh it does wtf

[olive sable]

Eyetracking at 120Hz

[fast pagoda]

oh

they announced it as a 120

but they removed it

wtf

because of bandwidth i guess

Official Product Specifications
All Pimax Crystal Super models offer 72, 90, or 120Hz refresh rates, with 120Hz enabled for Advanced Dynamic Foveated Rendering.

the panels can do 120

they removed it in software

due to bandwidth

[kind nimbus]

Triangle edition

[fast pagoda]

apparently there is an experimental 100hz mode

now

i mean

i dont think

honestly

[azure lynx]

when i was running an earlier version of my agent which used both 100% CPU and 100% GPU my computer needed external fans to keep it alive for longer than 10 minutes.
fixed that by vaccumming the dust inside the computer

[fast pagoda]

you're gonna have a gpu that hits 120fps

at 3840x3840x2

for like, any game

i doubt even a 5090 is doing that

[azure lynx]

are any designed to work with multiple GPUs?

[olive sable]

No

Doesnt work that way

[fast pagoda]

nothing is designed to work with multiple gpus anymore

[olive sable]

I thought discord went down but its just my wifi

[olive sable]

My gpu could do it. It mostly depends on the game tho.
VR tetris effect could probably run at 8K 120 foviated rendering

Vrchat not so much

[fast pagoda]

i should've been more specific

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

any game that requires a gpu in the first place

lol

[olive sable]

No it does work

Easily

[fast pagoda]

bruh i mean in any graphically intensive game

[olive sable]

Well, you're moving the goalpost here

[fast pagoda]

well yeah but like any gpu can do 120hz in ms paint at high res

that much is obvious

[olive sable]

Ofcourse if it already struggles at 4k it wont do 8k

That much is obvious

[fast pagoda]

but a game that you might want to play at high res + high refresh

you arent getting that fps anyways

[azure lynx]

often if you want high refresh you don't need high res.

[olive sable]

8K 90 is prob more than fine

[azure lynx]

and i think people expect a little jank from VR games anyway so you can probably get away with it more in VR games than other games

[olive sable]

Vrchat is badly optimized, its not like it would be hard to run at 8K if someone took the effort to improve the game

[fast pagoda]

7900xtx cyberpunk 2077 8k fps:

11.6 FPS

[azure lynx]

vrchat isn't a game though: it's more like a platform for loading other peoples 'games'

hard to optimize some parts

[olive sable]

You cant compare vrc to cyberpunk

[fast pagoda]

im just saying any game with graphics aint gonna happen at 8k 120

[olive sable]

😭

[fast pagoda]

maybe with FSR

[olive sable]

Get a job bro sorry

[olive sable]

Thats just managing expectations tho

[hard delta]

man

today was such a vibe trip

looking at dvds i burned in the 00s

[olive sable]

In VR you're getting high res to limit screendoor effect and aliasing, not because you want to play the latest and greatest graphically intensive games in 8K

[hard delta]

i found one with software
windows live messenger
limewire
nero...

[fast pagoda]

mmmm live messenger damn

[hard delta]

there's a python 2.5 installer too

and the best of the best... stylexp

[fast pagoda]

bro

[hard delta]

@rare bridge always ready to help

[olive sable]

The shinji pfp too

[fast pagoda]

man i remember when it was genuinely a tossup if any python shit you were using was gonna be 2.7 or python3

horrible transition lmao

[kind nimbus]

Food for 3 dollars?

Man

[olive sable]

I wish

Im hungry

[tropic spindle]

Only slightly rotten

[fast pagoda]

i could get mcdonalds about 3 bux still

[hard delta]

i ported a helper script that handles airport data from 2 to 3 a year ago...

[fast pagoda]

coupons bb

[olive sable]

McDonald's isnt a meal

[kind nimbus]

At least you can get a dog with rotten flesh

[azure lynx]

i remember thinking that was over an then a couple of years later having a lot of "actually our entire code base is 2.7 plz help" work.

[fast pagoda]

oh lawd

[tropic spindle]

If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me

[kind nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485392781876133888/1412872780151783555/EvilCuteSmileHype2.gif

[fast pagoda]

if theyre a dog im a dog bro - erobb221

[faint sandal]

is this website stupid

[fast pagoda]

yes

[faint sandal]

i've never seen the assets data fail to load like this

[olive sable]

Didnt even have to fill in all 10 questions. Just gave my phone number on question 1 and they were immediately "ye we fucked up "

[kind nimbus]

Can't get anything at McDonald's for 3 bucks these days lule

[fast pagoda]

id just assume it's some sort of elaborate infostealer

[tropic spindle]

I didn't know that was possible

[fast pagoda]

sure you can just use coupon

barely but it's still doable

least where i am

you'd get like

a mcdouble and a drink maybe a small fry tho lol

[tropic spindle]

Dog I am

[fast pagoda]

[olive sable]

Fuck it. Im restarting the router

[azure lynx]

also might not have been US.

[fast pagoda]

im in the us

Unfortunately

[azure lynx]

but the original person could've been somewhere where USD3.00 goes much further

[kind nimbus]

Ok right i found something for 3€ with coupon

[fast pagoda]

pommes frites time

extra punkte

[kind nimbus]

I recently spent all my points but at least i got 20 chicken nuggets for free

[fast pagoda]

usually ill get mcdolan breakfast because im weak to a hashbrown and ill get like hashbrown + sausage/cheese muffin + drink and it's usually like $3.50 or something liek that with coupon

if im going to work in person

dont really ever go there otherwise

[kind nimbus]

What. 3.50$ for all that ??

[fast pagoda]

ye

[kind nimbus]

:0

Crazy

[fast pagoda]

hash brown and sausage cheese muffin are on extra value which means it reduces the cheaper one to $1

and then i usually use a coupon for the drink to make it $1

[kind nimbus]

Ok so either McDonald's is very expensive here or I'm doing something wrong

[azure lynx]

What are the McPlant nuggets?

[fast pagoda]

big money dollla dolla bills days when they have the free drink coupon

[azure lynx]

McDonalds is very expensive elsewhere in the world

[fast pagoda]

it was big cheep in japan

man i miss shaka chicki

[kind nimbus]

So it's not just me

[azure lynx]

i've been to a few countries and they always seemed about the same or much more expensive (admittedly only seen in airports sometimes)

[fast pagoda]

shaka chicki is so pog
just a fried chicken filet in a packet that you can dump some seasoning in and shake it up to cover (it's like red pepper or something)

like 100 yen

or something

so basically free

wish they had it in the US so bad

[kind nimbus]

For chicken i prefer kfc

[azure lynx]

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/big-mac-index-by-country

[fast pagoda]

wwas talking about this with @stark needle the other day

could NOT understand argentina and uruguay especially

[azure lynx]

doesn't have many countries. are there only that many places with mcdonalds?

[fast pagoda]

the map looks about what id expect

to have mcd

although

[kind nimbus]

Mh Germany is not on this list

[fast pagoda]

spain i know has them

i went to mcd in madrid

id imagine france does too

so it's missing some of them

maybe they do not sell the big mac there

i cant remember

[azure lynx]

yeah... i'd expect every european country to have one probably

[fast pagoda]

the only thing i can think of that makes sense is that it's because there's no explicit big mac on the menu

but that is surprising in itself tbh

[azure lynx]

perhaps when they tried to search for "big mac in france" it kept coming up with Pulp Fiction references

[kind nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-quarter-pounder-metric-system-royale-cheese-la-big-mac-pulp-fiction-royale-with-cheese-jules-vincent-gif-13775083886636771466

[olive sable]

France McDonald's is kinda different

Just Google it

[fast pagoda]

they are all different than the us

[olive sable]

Too different to explain

[olive sable]

Nah. France is even more out there

[fast pagoda]

i dunno im looking at it and it looks about like japan or spain

[olive sable]

Most McDonald's ive been to in europe are somewhat similair besides france

[fast pagoda]

it makes sense if this is the issue as spain was similar to what im seeing here

[opaque sigil]

french mcdonalds is bougie af

[fast pagoda]

and it's not on the index

[olive sable]

Ye

Bougie

[silent cloak]

Insane to hear

[opaque sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmIczg6a0WQ remembered this video exists

[azure lynx]

like the "taco bell" in demolition man? (Taco Bell was the only restaurant to survive the franchise wars, so now all restaurants are Taco Bell.)

[fast pagoda]

spain was like this too

for example

they had some shit called the McExtreme

[silent cloak]

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/include/linux/log2.h

[fast pagoda]

and they seem to rotate it out

[silent cloak]

Man

[azure lynx]

they had something weirdly named in New Zealand when i went there too. i think I took a picture of it

[fast pagoda]

kek

[fast pagoda]

spain

[fast pagoda]

was just staring at that

like

oh

[olive sable]

Mcdonalds in belgium and other parts of europe, and a lot of other restaurants too are weird. Building thats old enough to have been there when jesus christ was born has a pizza hut in it

[fast pagoda]

just look at the wonder

in spanish mcdoan

[silent cloak]

The have to optimize obesity per country

[kind nimbus]

McExtreme

[azure lynx]

nope. Just a couple of pictures of birds in airport terminals.

[opaque sigil]

constant folding go brrr

[fast pagoda]

i will say i got some sort of mcextreme

and

it was pretty meh

had some sort of bbq sauce i did not vibe with maybe im just uncultured

deserts and stuff were pog

[silent cloak]

Remember the CEO wont eat it

So ur ceo level

[fast pagoda]

if he bit that burger he would've instantly been drained for 250 billion dollars

[olive sable]

These are the ones we have.

[hard delta]

yeah one of each please

donaldslop

[fast pagoda]

spoiled

[kind nimbus]

That McCrispy Sriracha looks good

[fast pagoda]

ummm

[fast pagoda]

programming

yes

this would be annoying to implement on the website

because

it's alll fucking different

[olive sable]

I dont think they had that one when i worked at mcds 2 years ago

All the others are familiar tho

[fast pagoda]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/250820/discussions/0/688615526773144411/ @olive sable relevant to earlier

[olive sable]

All the sauces had weird names. Instead of using the real names, rhe filet o fish sauce was just called FOF

[umbral wigeon]

What would you buy with ceo money

[fast pagoda]

neuro sama

[kind nimbus]

Imagine it was EOF

[olive sable]

Wdym?

[azure lynx]

end of file

?

[kind nimbus]

End Of File

[fast pagoda]

that's all i can think of yeah

oh

mmm end of file sauce

[silent cloak]

Real

[fast pagoda]

remember to use unix style not windows

[azure lynx]

how much is "ceo money"?

[silent cloak]

Buy neuro and use her model as a surrogate for SNN

[fast pagoda]

snn....mention

https://tenor.com/view/hot-steaming-mad-tantrum-angry-gif-112746539204896193

[silent cloak]

Nvidia be like

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-gif-14251978375826396304

[kind nimbus]

What about SCI ?

[fast pagoda]

had to do it to em

[fast pagoda]

verified real

[silent cloak]

Just get ur hands on neuromorphic chips

Average chud might not be able to yet i suppose tho

[olive sable]

You can see the naming patern with filet o fish being FOF
Honey mustard was HM

[fast pagoda]

addressed in the pasta my friend

[silent cloak]

(Said chud needs torch to do machine learning anyways)

[azure lynx]

I love how he was going to eat that one corner but you know, the other corner is caramel...

[fast pagoda]

morphic

[silent cloak]

Some stuff is right in there

[fast pagoda]

i wrote it (it's a major shitpost taking many liberties)

[silent cloak]

Though it still doesnt mean anything negative even for the right stuff

Just the objective truth

For any new tech in general with 0 standards

[fast pagoda]

i just wanna see loihi

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

Intel moment

[hard delta]

infrastucture and law enforcement, then get all sorts of training and finally some sort of irl administrator card to literally everything and everywhere so i can go wherever whenever and fix stuff

[fast pagoda]

sure yes we'll have some random phds come use it at 1/69th capacity to PoC some sweet neural models

no we will never release it

[umbral wigeon]

I want some kfc

And gpu

Cpu

New pc

[fast pagoda]

i need a 3d printer

[umbral wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/smol-smolcat-smolcatcoin-smol-cat-coin-roswell-gif-5972314891354809109

[fast pagoda]

to make cases

reee

[silent cloak]

Thats an L in any field of research tbh

[azure lynx]

i don't think the one in that gif was cooked right. looked a little gooey.

[silent cloak]

Which is what got openai shat on during its initial explosion

[olive sable]

the fuckin app dont work cuz the internet is down eventho it should still just work on the local network

[kind nimbus]

From all the talk about McDonald's here i now got hungry again

[fast pagoda]

"we've got this SWEET ASS stuff bro trust me it's fucking awesome and SOTA and will change evrything"

"release: TBD" quietly never released

[umbral wigeon]

Will you use neuro sama api key
If it exist

[silent cloak]

Wanna know a life hack

[olive sable]

Nope

[fast pagoda]

there's some bros implementing Loihi 2 on fpga i think

cant truly do everything tho

[silent cloak]

Ignore anything that isnt published in a peer reviewed paper

[fast pagoda]

like i think the propagation is still fucked

[silent cloak]

Backprop isnt meant for this usecase anyways

[fast pagoda]

well, forward prop specifically i think

[azure lynx]

and often ignore things that are published. Most published stuff leads to nothing practical.

[fast pagoda]

i have to go read the repo again

[silent cloak]

Well yeah if ur just reading and not doing shit

[fast pagoda]

something something not mighty morphin enough

[silent cloak]

If its useful information apply it

[azure lynx]

(I'm actually published! I did something! But it was useless. ;] )

[fast pagoda]

[kind nimbus]

It probably works via a 3rd party external api

[fast pagoda]

https://github.com/catalyst-neuromorphic/catalyst-n1 p cool

[silent cloak]

People forget research is a collaborative effort these days

[fast pagoda]

loihi 1 for this one actually

https://github.com/catalyst-neuromorphic/catalyst-n3

[silent cloak]

Yeah its a nice little starter

But there is still no proper standard yet in this phase so its a little forward

[fast pagoda]

yeah for sure

plus loihi3 outscales this to hilarious degrees

[olive sable]

I guess. Still fucked up it doesnt just work without wifi

[silent cloak]

I wouldnt invest in any neuromorphic until a standard is settled on personally

Though i still wouldnt invest in anything else either

[fast pagoda]

8 million neurons, 64 billion synapses, 1.2Watts peak load

p cool

[silent cloak]

Yeah the power of no floating point slop

They tried implementing that on transformers a few time

Like ditching FP

[fast pagoda]

power: small city

[silent cloak]

Never really went anywhere

[fast pagoda]

oh

[azure lynx]

neuromorphic explicitly says "we're going to do it the way nature did it". That seems like a wasteful way to go about it when we can design stuff instead of evolve it.

that's just my opinion,.

[silent cloak]

Its a baseline

[fast pagoda]

not incorrect

but

it's also

the only way we know that actually works for the stated goal

[silent cloak]

Its an area that isnt dead atm

Which transformers are

Its not done or practical yet

But it is better

[fast pagoda]

i imagine you're referring to what like i-llm stuff /

integer only

[silent cloak]

Yeah and the binary ones

Had some small scale releases

[fast pagoda]

bitnet my beloved (to hate)

[silent cloak]

Lmao

Honestly if something promising comes out to beat SNNs ill move to that

[fast pagoda]

hear me out

instead of

[silent cloak]

Im not loyal to any one concept or i would of stuck with liquid neural networks

[fast pagoda]

spiking neural networks

spiking neuro networks

[amber fractal]

[silent cloak]

I got a better idea

Lets make a giant hole to the center of the earth with a firery pit

[fast pagoda]

and throw vedal down it

[silent cloak]

That way companies can be optimized with throwing away money

With no actual gain

[fast pagoda]

i think if we offer up the green fog as tribute

[azure lynx]

that's a much more difficult engineering problem by many orders of magnitude.

[fast pagoda]

then satan will come up and bless us with the perfect neural architecture

[amber fractal]

Throw tutel into the magma so that neur becomes real

[silent cloak]

It has a higher chance of creating AGI than a transformer model

[fast pagoda]

throw sam altman down there for good measure

even if it doesnt seem to be working

[silent cloak]

Now that i would do with ceo money

[azure lynx]

No. Sorry. No. It's much much harder.

[amber fractal]

That is just a requirement to get the attention of the demons

[teal cipher]

codex told me "I will not do that unless you explicitly tell me to" along those lines... like I wasn't direct enough somehow XD

[amber fractal]

t we love sacrificing people

[azure lynx]

the earth is REALLY BIG. and the inside is REALLY HOT.

[silent cloak]

No because one is technically possible

The other one isnt possible in anyway shape or form

[azure lynx]

Which one are you saying is technically possible?

[silent cloak]

Digging in the earth

[azure lynx]

and explain how you would do it.

[amber fractal]

[azure lynx]

the middle is a liquid

it's so hot

how would you keep the hole there?

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

Is it a liquid?

Given the pressure

[azure lynx]

yes. lava is molten earth coming out

[olive sable]

I think so

[azure lynx]

magma is liquid rock

[silent cloak]

Ok checked

[azure lynx]

the core is liquid iron

[silent cloak]

The core is solid

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

With a liquid outer core

[azure lynx]

then superfluid iron

[silent cloak]

Also i never specified how deep in my original joke

[azure lynx]

the center

the core

[silent cloak]

Yeah there is no current way to get there but it is physically possible

[olive sable]

What is the solid core made from then? Non-liquid 8ron?

[fast pagoda]

well personally the pressure down there makes a trip a bit tough for me

[silent cloak]

Yeah same issue as deep ocean work

[azure lynx]

#programming message
Above the core is liquid rock which would ooze into the any hole you "dig".

[olive sable]

Add watercooling

[azure lynx]

where would you get enough water?

[silent cloak]

I wonder how gravity would be that far down

[olive sable]

Reusse the water obviously

[fast pagoda]

if we're already going to the center of the earth i propose a shielding layer made of unobtanium and energy shielding

[olive sable]

Cool it in space

[fast pagoda]

since we're already in fantasy tech

[silent cloak]

If its a hypothetical u could literally have a giant hose attached go the drilling system

[fast pagoda]

hook it up to the space datacenter

[azure lynx]

it's not that kind of hypothetical. you're trying to refute "it's not actually possible using the earth itself" with "if you had an infinitely big house you could do it"

[olive sable]

Its a bad idea, but still somewhat realistic.
You def could cool water in space and then use it to cool the walls you use the protect your tunnel

[silent cloak]

The point is its still more possible than AGI with an ANN

[azure lynx]

How much cooling would you need and how would you pump it?

[silent cloak]

Unless ur elementary particles were physically unable to exist around or near said space

[olive sable]

I would pump it with a pump, and cool it as much as necessary

[amber fractal]

[silent cloak]

Just make an infinite water source genius

[azure lynx]

how large would the hole need to be to get all the cooling you'd need? that's asking a question like "the rocket equation" but changing for area and variation of temperature over depth instead of just mass...

[silent cloak]

2 water buckets

[fast pagoda]

Mfw go to space to cool and the only cooling that actually works is radiative slow ass heat dumping

[azure lynx]

it would need to get larger as the radius increased because you have more surface area to cool

[silent cloak]

Lets just nuke the core for fun

[olive sable]

You're just not thonking big enough. Big ass heatsink in space

[azure lynx]

i think it's more likely we'll get AGI from ANN than be able to dig to the center of the earth while we are humans.

[olive sable]

Just dont increase the radius then

[azure lynx]

then you won't get enough water to cool it

[olive sable]

You could

Make it faster

[silent cloak]

Yeah no

Again unless ur molecules cant physically exist there then its more possible

Given how its actually impossible to do the alternative

[azure lynx]

one of those is possible maybe with a large enough model. (ridiculously sized but finite.)
the other would never be possible.

[silent cloak]

Its like saying u can predict the future with a random number generator

[azure lynx]

you can. you'll just be wrong a lot.

[silent cloak]

Anthropic and such as equally pulling their words out of their ass

Its not possible in the same way that the auto correct in ur phone cant gain sentience

Or building a nether portal using real obsidian

[azure lynx]

isn't the spike based nural network still an ANN?

[silent cloak]

No

They arent transformer based

ANNs are more statistics than a brain

[azure lynx]

it's not a reall neural network. it's an artificial neural network. or do you mean ANN == transformer?

[silent cloak]

Pretty much how its used yes

[azure lynx]

by you i see

[silent cloak]

By a lot of people

No idea why

[azure lynx]

the words "artificial neural network" matching ANN probably is what I find confusing. Could you explain?

[silent cloak]

I didnt coin the popularity

I use it because everyone else is using it

[azure lynx]

most ANNs people use are transformers.
it's like saying "all animals are dogs"

[silent cloak]

Its how i see it in papers and other cases where some other type of network architecture is being talked about with traditional transformer ones

[fast pagoda]

heat cant into convection so surface area like a normal heatsink is just a lot of area to absorb radiation and roast

[silent cloak]

I agree its not the best term for it

TNNs would probably be better

[azure lynx]

or transformers

if you mean transformers

[fast pagoda]

i think a big ol chunk of aluminum heatsink with fins like normal is actually turbo bad because the fins just radiate into each other

[silent cloak]

Machine learning community loves to shrink down names for some reason

[fast pagoda]

you basically need the largest widest single surface facing deep space and only deep space

[azure lynx]

possibly you just interpreted it as "ANN = transformer" because that's the type of ANN you tended to read about.

[olive sable]

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What if you would use the upper armosphere instead?
Lots of wind and very cold

[silent cloak]

Yeah idk the reasoning behind it

[azure lynx]

it's very thin. not much conduction.

if you are in the upper atmosphere you also have drag

[fast pagoda]

ikt's cold just like space

lack of material

so low average energy

not much to convect

[olive sable]

Surely there's a height region in our atmosphere optimal for cooling?

[fast pagoda]

i think at orbit speed

you would actually heat up

from friction

[azure lynx]

if you wanted to cool something like a project to dig a deep hole, assuming you have the flow rates you could just make a loop on the ground which has much more surface area than the hole would. but the real problem for that design would be the ridiculous size it would end up being and we're not talking about that any more.)

[olive sable]

Ofcourse we cant put the heatsink in orbit

[fast pagoda]

well it has to get the heat there somehow

[olive sable]

You cant connect your heatpipes then

[fast pagoda]

so it'd have to be connected to an orbital-velocity body

[azure lynx]

and then you would deorbit, just like spacecraft do but probably much worse because you're a spaceship meant to stay in space.

[fast pagoda]

and thus would also move that speed or similar enough it wont matter much