programming

[glass jetty]

or contribute

[glass flower]

what even is it?

like what does it do?

[wheat blaze]

Yeah no idea

[glass jetty]

bare socket vpn via tun

[kind nimbus]

So something like ligolo-ng?

Can I use that for pivoting?

[glass jetty]

no signatures that dpi know

[glass jetty]

idk what is ligolo-ng

5k stars

too popular

[kind nimbus]

https://github.com/nicocha30/ligolo-ng

its awesome for pivoting entire networks and does not require root

[glass jetty]

eyah i can google

[rigid snow]

[kind nimbus]

I use it to forward ports and entire network ranges from machines so i can access the internal networks and services from my machine

[glass flower]

what do you mean too popular?

[wheat blaze]

now i understand better

[glass jetty]

difference is that i cant use something popular, cuz it already watched by dpi

[glass flower]

Haha

[kind nimbus]

This is exactly an issue

Ligolo-ng oftentimes is detected by EDR / DPI

[glass jetty]

NOTHING worked for me when i tried anything else (than vless reality)
so i created this ill thing

[kind nimbus]

Yeah i will check that out

Thx for sharing

[wheat blaze]

this is a crazy challenge haha

[kind nimbus]

I'm already annoyed when defender picks up the ligolo agent and deletes it lol

[glass jetty]

are you kinda really want to try and use this?

[wheat blaze]

anyways i dont understand a single thing haha, what industsry uses it tho? cybersecurity?

[kind nimbus]

Yea

Or maybe i start writing something myself idk

But I'd really like something that's not detected by AV

Basically something as a backup if i cannot use ligolo

And chisel sucks and is detected anyway

[glass jetty]

well, then, since there no readme:

1. it support multiple sessions with different logins (no passwords)
2. stable, 0 crashes so far
3. maybe have bottlenack somewhere, maybe it is just network bottleneck - max speed i got is 50mb when isp stand that they giv is 100
   install and use:
4. compile from source (just cmake .. && cmake --build ., not remember actually, if you will have issues reach me) on both server and client
5. example of config file, server search for file next to executable - 'conf.json'

{
"port":223,
"max_alive_time":72000,
"private_key_path":"private.pem",
"allowed_logins":[
    "Chara_VerKys",
    "other_guest_123",
    "moon"
    ]
}

path to private key here - just next to executable
3. server start just by sudo ./vpverk_server
4. for keygen script see /src/tests/rsakey/gen.sh
5. client will show you in cout, but here is example of command to run:
sudo ./vpverk_client --port=223 --server_ip=<server ip> --login=Chara_VerKys
public key is your password.
i will add passwords hashes eventually, but currently only public.pem is required to access (and being in valid login list)

@kind nimbus

[kind nimbus]

wait does the client require root perms ?

[glass jetty]

to spawn tun
you can see sources, there literally several lines of sync code, follow them if you want

not bother to create layer since i did it for myself

[kind nimbus]

huh because ligolo-ng does not require root on the agent and uses TUN as well

[glass jetty]

there 100% layers
i just not looked for them

btw, since client set ip that server send to you, you cant just setup tun and run it without sudo, app run set ip on tun

feel free to change 🤷

also be aware that there no mac; so dont transfer anything if your target is remote local network
and i use both gcm for control socket, and ctr for data socket in rewrite ---- it will be completely safe to transfer control, but data socket still no mac, so only for raw ip packets that will eventually be tls packets
vpverk original use one socket, idk why i again tried to use single socket

[kind nimbus]

you will need something that runs in userland like gVisor if you wanna implement that without needing root rights

but i guess that's probably too much work

[opaque wharf]

I wish we can replace GCM with OCB

[glass jetty]

rn i want just to reproduce stable work
will make it complete service later
rn i want rewrite with sane structure

[wheat blaze]

Ok I'm too scared of programming despite a data science major
I'll go back #neurotic-neurons

[glass jetty]

a data science major
what?
you are not, you are vibe coder

[faint sandal]

fuck off lmao

[wheat blaze]

I'm learning system design so I use vibe code

And my SQL skills are crap

Tho I just made a website to help me learn it

That makes sql like scratch
Using blocks

https://github.com/felixkeng/query-wars

[kind fable]

tls:connection from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:1270 to external:25565 forwarded from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:1270 to internal:443
tls:connection from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:1278 to external:25565 forwarded from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:1278 to internal:443
tls:connection from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:1298 to external:25565 forwarded from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:1298 to internal:443
tls:connection from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:1328 to external:25565 forwarded from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:1328 to internal:443
tls:connection from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:51720 to external:25565 forwarded from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:51720 to internal:443
tls:connection from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:51728 to external:25565 forwarded from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:51728 to internal:443
tls:connection from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:51732 to external:25565 forwarded from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:51732 to internal:443
tls:connection from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:51746 to external:25565 forwarded from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:51746 to internal:443
tls:connection from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:51760 to external:25565 forwarded from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:51760 to internal:443
tls:connection from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:51774 to external:25565 forwarded from 162.186.132.66.censys-scanner.com:51774 to internal:443

"We're just scanning the web we're all good trust me bro, we're just doing nice security analysis and nothing bad"
the bros literally sending 10 consecutive requests on the same port with the wrong protocol on purpose so fucking often

[wheat blaze]

i only did first question tho

on my 15 questions made

[wheat blaze]

so many 443 lol

[kind nimbus]

no flake.nix

[wheat blaze]

idont understand nix language

[kind fable]

they fucking sending HTTPS to the minecraft port

[wheat blaze]

lol

[kind fable]

all those "security" groups mass scanning the internet is a massive load of bullshit

[wheat blaze]

i dont play minecraft but i still understand a little

[kind nimbus]

no shit sherlock

[kind fable]

the actual shit is that they're making shit worse for everyone by spamming everyone by making it harder to actually detect genuinely bad stuff

[wheat blaze]

like ddos i see

[kind nimbus]

Linus recently said the kernel mailing list got completely unmanagable

[kind fable]

when there's like one connection fine you're scanning the internet really

but here those just send like 10 connections at once

[kind nimbus]

because everyone is reporting duplicate issues found by the same LLMs lol

[kind fable]

and it's not rare, it's multiple time per days

[opaque wharf]

Also internet meter is notorious for this

And they even tried path like .env, secret.json, wp-admin

[kind fable]

and when you send an email saying i opt out here's my domain name stop sending me stuff they say duh just block us

like bruh that's not my task to block you

just stop sending shit

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, and people wonder why cloudflare got so big

[kind fable]

yep

tls:connection from r3-83-53.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:34571 to external:443 forwarded from r3-83-53.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:34571 to internal:443
tls:connection from r3-80-50.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:58101 to external:443 forwarded from r3-80-50.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:58101 to internal:443
tls:connection from r5-106-6a.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:40691 to external:443 forwarded from r5-106-6a.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:40691 to internal:443
tls:connection from r3-80-50.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:53353 to external:443 forwarded from r3-80-50.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:53353 to internal:443
tls:connection from r5-100-64.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:33637 to external:443 forwarded from r5-100-64.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:33637 to internal:443
tls:connection from r4-92-5c.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:56143 to external:443 forwarded from r4-92-5c.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:56143 to internal:443
tls:connection from r5-76-4c.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:55793 to external:443 forwarded from r5-76-4c.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:55793 to internal:443
tls:connection from r5-105-69.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:37927 to external:443 forwarded from r5-105-69.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:37927 to internal:443
tls:connection from r4-100-64.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:52657 to external:443 forwarded from r4-100-64.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:52657 to internal:443
tls:connection from r5-96-60.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:43209 to external:443 forwarded from r5-96-60.monitoring.internet-measurement.com:43209 to internal:443

[opaque wharf]

Being able to block them before even making a request to your origin is a godsend

[kind nimbus]

even my home ip gets botted constantly from automated scanners because i have reverse proxy on port 80/443 open lol

[young plover]

They do that to your IP regardless of the hostname

[kind fable]

i'm honestly thinking echo'ing back 10GB files at 1b/s so they fucking block me

[opaque wharf]

Valid crashout lol

[wheat blaze]

lol ur server gonna lag too

[kind fable]

yes and they shouldn't
especially when they say you can opt out but actually say actually no go fuck yourself block us

[young plover]

I've also thought about that lol

[kind fable]

not if i send at 1b/s and i just stream them /dev/urandom or smth like that

[wheat blaze]

It’s the future, I’m living Gen Alpha experience

I wanna live in the future

[kind fable]

it's genuinely so annoying

[kind nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1455308122884276489/Whatever_GO_MY_NEURO_COPTER.gif

[wheat blaze]

And live as a future person

[kind fable]

because it's harder for me to detect real threats in the mass

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, it hinders actual useful logs

[kind fable]

also some of the bros don't just try reading

[glass jetty]

omg i was about to yap for 30 min and get back to writing statistics actor
but it was 90 min so far

i get overwhelmed ~~

[wheat blaze]

I just hope I was born later to live in brainrot generation lol

[opaque wharf]

God I hate POST request to invalid resource so much

Luckily API shield from cloudflare (again) would block that shit

[wheat blaze]

Maybe build a filter system to not let then log it in ur terminal?

So u can see useful logs

[kind fable]

thing is i don't wanna be behind cloudflare
because i don't wanna be down when the whole internet is down because whoops we messed up a regex sowwy

[wheat blaze]

Lol I remember cloudflare was mentioned in vedal ddos video lll

[wheat blaze]

Internet can be down?

[opaque wharf]

Yeah I understand the sentiment too. But shit like them eating away my vps bandwidth limit is the reason why I use CF

[kind fable]

and also actually the AI companies have started to become the least annoying ones
genuinely
i randomly receive those once in a while and they are actually respectful
74.7.175.183 - - [27/May/2026:15:24:06 +0200] "GET /robots.txt HTTP/2.0" 404 13 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/131.0.0.0 Safari/537.36; compatible; OAI-SearchBot/1.4; robots.txt; +https://openai.com/searchbot"

[wheat blaze]

What are they trying to do

[opaque wharf]

Indeed lol. They actually respect robots.txt now after so many backlash

[kind fable]

good thing oracle cloud doesn't have a limit in ingress i think or in egress
idk but it's far from what the max is

[opaque wharf]

And threat from many of the big provider

[opaque wharf]

My provider has

1TB in and out (independent of each other)/month

[kind fable]

AIs ? they just search for shit sometimes and i'm fine with it
"seucrity scanners" ? they actually try to map out if i'm a vulnerable victim to then resell it probably

[opaque wharf]

Was it 1 or 10. But it is in the small TB range

[kind fable]

like i'm sorry this is not security research
bro is just enumerating my shit

165.227.217.62 - - [27/May/2026:14:46:33 +0200] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 1424 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Security Research Bot)"
165.227.217.62 - - [27/May/2026:14:46:34 +0200] "GET /%3A%20stuff/ HTTP/1.1" 200 171 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Security Research Bot)"
165.227.217.62 - - [27/May/2026:14:46:34 +0200] "GET /LaSSB/ HTTP/1.1" 401 26 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Security Research Bot)"
165.227.217.62 - - [27/May/2026:14:46:34 +0200] "GET /NEU%20Malware%20Analysis/ HTTP/1.1" 401 26 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Security Research Bot)"
165.227.217.62 - - [27/May/2026:14:46:35 +0200] "GET /fixer/ HTTP/1.1" 200 440 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Security Research Bot)"
165.227.217.62 - - [27/May/2026:14:46:35 +0200] "GET /folder/ HTTP/1.1" 200 3522 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Security Research Bot)"
165.227.217.62 - - [27/May/2026:14:46:35 +0200] "GET /hospital/ HTTP/1.1" 200 220 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Security Research Bot)"
165.227.217.62 - - [27/May/2026:14:46:36 +0200] "GET /html/ HTTP/1.1" 200 178 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Security Research Bot)"
165.227.217.62 - - [27/May/2026:14:46:36 +0200] "GET /maven/ HTTP/1.1" 200 164 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Security Research Bot)"
165.227.217.62 - - [27/May/2026:14:46:37 +0200] "GET /meow/ HTTP/1.1" 200 215 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Security Research Bot)"
165.227.217.62 - - [27/May/2026:14:46:37 +0200] "GET /oembed/ HTTP/1.1" 200 1401 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Security Research Bot)"

[kind nimbus]

you can also setup CrowdSec to block known bad IPs

and a WAF like Coraza / ModSecurity to block bad exploitation attempts

[kind fable]

i'm slowly setting up fail2ban
at some point yeah i'm gonna block them
here i'm first collecting initial logs to see the really bad ones

[opaque wharf]

Shit like that should never be needed if people weren't so fuckin annoying

[kind nimbus]

well people on the internet are bad and not your friends

better protect yourself properly

[kind nimbus]

fail2ban is ok to detect and block brute force attempts but does not replace a proper WAF or IPS solution

[kind fable]

like yeah censys this is totally to protect me and not just to basically sitemap my server

[kind fable]

i'm gonna config it to read from sslh and nginx errors and it should hopefully be enough

[kind nimbus]

if you have a reverse proxy running maybe check out Bunkerweb. It builds traps for automated scanners and exploitation attempts by leading them into false positives 😄

[kind fable]

also that was 1h after the same exact thing

[opaque wharf]

That's interesting

So honeypot

[kind nimbus]

yup

[kind fable]

i could setup honeypots and tarpits and stuff, but annoying, i shouldn't have to run that load
they should really just respect the fact that i tell them, yep i opt out, now stop it

the fact they say, we scan the web for everyone security and you can opt out and then tell you just block us is disingenuous

[opaque wharf]

Here is the idea. Your 10GB at 1b/s on a honeypot

[kind nimbus]

there is a demo video here
https://github.com/bunkerity/bunkerweb#demo

[kind fable]

some people are creative btw like here the bro really think i gonna think it's nokia

or here where the bro literally threw his wordlist
why can't the internet just be nice

[kind nimbus]

well

[kind fable]

at some point i'll have to run a hidden service that i'll have to give to trusted people and make it spread organically to be sure not be spammed

[kind nimbus]

oh cool i just saw Caddy has a crowdsec module

[kind fable]

oh also i don't talk about that time where i had a 90GB log becaus someone was spamming so hard they managed to DoS me

i literally ran out of fd

now because i'm not stupid i had my own ways to be sure i could still enter

and i did

but man

[kind nimbus]

i hope you setup log rotation then

or rsyslog

[kind fable]

nope i hadn't

yet

also log rotation is annoying

because sslh log thing isn't great

and also there's systemd inbetween

and yeah

now i have the magic trick of "> log"

which worked well enough

and i banned them

[opaque wharf]

Sometimes it is not available on a vps

[kind fable]

in my case what i'll try to do is hook up logrotate or idk journald

i like systemd because good

i hate systemd because who the fuck made the journal be binary are you fucking smooth ?

like this is genuinely such a stupid idea

[kind nimbus]

i'm still waiting for the LTT reaction video on Vedal's build

i need some good content

[silent cloak]

Did u guys hear flatpak2's public self destruction

[kind fable]

Uh ? That's gonna happen ?

[kind nimbus]

Idk

I was hoping for one

Someone needs to make Linus do it

[trim valve]

was this the systemd stuff

[silent cloak]

Rust rewrite (probably using AI too just to give the triple slop) forced wayland and systemd depends

[tender river]

what is flatpak2 even

[silent cloak]

Supposed to be their next big version

[tender river]

concerning

[silent cloak]

I blame red hat

[glass jetty]

it is not rust rewrite if it is ai rewrite

it is ai rewrite.

never heard about flatpak2 btw

[trim valve]

flatpak-next I think

I think these are the screenshots that makes the Linux users (derogatory) mad

[tender river]

waow

[true hemlock]

vedal fuck you i still couldn't sleep ever since that psychological horror

[trim valve]

idk how to pinpoint the specific flavour of Linux user

[silent cloak]

Tell that to bun

[trim valve]

but like think lunduke brained

[tender river]

om got wrench reacted

[glass jetty]

what happened to bun btw
not follow at all

[tender river]

theres plenty of non lunduke brained people who dislike systemd

[trim valve]

it genuinely took me 15 minutes to find these posts

[silent cloak]

Forced wayland too

[trim valve]

everything else was just about systemd

and having a sane discussion rather than dogpling some words without context

[tender river]

theres probably more of that kind of people in easily googleable places like reddit and stuff ye

[kind fable]

lmao

tbh i don't get the systemd hate

i mean i get it, it's not the linux philosophy

[finite ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262479084286513265/1348506465102594058/1334696039810338857.gif

[kind fable]

and binary journaling sucks

but otherwise it's dam good

also yeah we shouldn't depend on it

but it's good tho

[tender river]

systemd is a monolith
when you want to customize something and systemd doesnt support that particular customization you're out of luck
also have you ever tried systemd on embedded devices

lately systemd is getting sloppified too

[kind fable]

bun is AI AI AI AI
bun which is zig AI into rust AI to make javascript AI app into native-ish AI

[tender river]

its good to have alternatives either way

[kind fable]

not really you can only use the parts of systemd you want

[rigid snow]

anthropic own bun > many token > can riir with ai > riir with ai

[glass jetty]

eyarh reading rn

13,000 unsafe blocks

conclusion: dont use bun

[opaque wharf]

The ptsd is real

[rigid snow]

why are you people always bringing up unsafe blocks yeah no shit it's a project that used to do heavy interop in zig

and it's a 1 to 1 rewrite, no off the shelf bindings

[glass jetty]

so, it was useless ai rewrite

not rust rewrite

[kind fable]

Because other projects have way less

[rigid snow]

i get it but this is v0

[kind fable]

But don't worry soon we'll get bun.yt-dlp because yt-dlp said they drop bun support

[rigid snow]

also i'd argue they have way more if you flatten the bindings out

[kind fable]

Written by AI obv

[rigid snow]

honestly all of this is stupid, rewriting bun in rust like that no matter if with ai, because of ai, whatever - is reckless

[opaque wharf]

AI jewelry

[rigid snow]

even if their intentions are clear, they wanted to ship more with ai, zig is immature+doesn't allow ai contributions = bun's zig fork

bun's zig fork + twitter = ?? riir apparently

[trim valve]

wrrr

consider the following

I want to actually read what's been said before jumping on bandwagon

[silent cloak]

Ai rust rewrite

The pinacle of modern linux slop

• wayland

[opaque wharf]

I wish there are local AI now that can route my pcb for me

[rigid snow]

i've never done pcb design, are auto routers that bad

like i know there;s a magic button that would do it for you but is it shit

[opaque wharf]

It is bad

[robust wind]

depends on the complexity of your layout and schematic, in my cases it's made very weird decisions with relatively simple layouts too

[opaque wharf]

Like consuming ungodly amount of resource bad

[robust wind]

and if you set up constraints wrong then it just sphagettis your traces into a mess

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, that one's on the designer

DRC would not detect that too if you set up the wrong constraint

[robust wind]

true

my last experience with autorouting was determined to... just not use vias and i still don't know why
i'm pretty sure I set up everything correctly, and I think it was also placing vias on a test project just fine, but on this it just didn't want to

say hello to highways of traces going all the way around the board to connect a bus right there

[trim valve]

I still haven't managed to find out who this guy even is

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, there are currently no good open auto routers. All is locked behind some enterprise software suite

Even those are not THAT good if your layout is shit from the get go

[trim valve]

like if chat is just pulling the right-winger game of inventing fake people to be mad at I'm gonna be madge

[robust wind]

yeah

though tbf i didn't spend a lot of time fiddling with the autorouter settings, since I wanted to learn routing myself anyway on that
and for later projects, I find it far too enjoyable to route by hand to bother trying to give the job to the computer lol

[opaque wharf]

You'll soon find out how tedious it is for 4+ layer board

[robust wind]

~~you'll soon find out how masochistic i am ~~

:P though seriously, aside from certain tedious tasks, I mostly find routing fun

[opaque wharf]

Layouting is fun, routing, not so much

[tender river]

ye i get that. its just that associating it with lunduke is a bit weird when people associated with flatpak-next got called "lunduke allies" themselves for planning tight systemd integration

[trim valve]

id be shocked if they got called lunduke allies given lunduke have a knee jerk reaction to Wayland and rust

[tender river]

well

https://fosstodon.org/@AdrianVovk/116629630385486477

Adrian Vovk (@[e-mail])

-# ↩ Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️
@tragivictoria @thomholwerda I wouldn't be so sure. See the LAS talk, appd is a Flatpak v1 thing, we quite literally say so.

But it's all entirely completely moot to talk about when we haven't written a single line of code. Frankly before the Fedi dog pile I was planning to be super considerate of the non systemd use case. But I just saw someone literally accusing us of being Lunduke allies.

So pardon me but I'm not feeling inclined to spend my time on that shit anymore. Not worth it

Fosstodon · May 24, 2026, 12:48 PM

basically

[trim valve]

wrr

understandable

[tender river]

there are pro-lunduke and anti-lunduke people on both sides of systemd vs anti-systemd debate

and there are more and less reasonable people on both sides

[trim valve]

i wasn't trying to get at the systemd vs no systemd argument, it's the people parroting lunduke points 1:1 with the same lack of reading anything that I am mad at

specifically making a random assumption #programming message and speaking it like the truth #programming message

[tender river]

ye i dont think anyone said flatpak 2 will be a rust rewrite or not have x11

though not supporting x11 would make a lot of sense for flatpak because of portals and stuff

[kind nimbus]

an init system should only do one job and thats manage services to start and stop them

sysvinit and bsdinit do that perfectly well

meanwhile systemd tries to do everything and replace other solutions outside of pure init systems

[trim valve]

I gotta go shower now, but

[warped narwhal]

But dbus

[trim valve]

https://hachyderm.io/@jorge/116625889788841431

Jorge Castro (@[e-mail])

-# ↩ Dusk :nonbinary_heart:
@bb010g @myrita No. The real reality is,

"flatpak next removes all prior legacy tech, X11, init systems no one is using, even poor packagekit didn't make the cut."

Hachyderm.io · May 23, 2026, 8:57 PM

this was their "tweet" (what do fedi people call them)

[tender river]

post

[trim valve]

(not trying to argue just linking a non lunduke source)

[kind nimbus]

a message bus does not need to be part of an init system

KISS

[trim valve]

🚿

[tender river]

[split steppe]

who said systemd is an init system

[warped narwhal]

So just nixos, but now even harder to maintain?

[warped narwhal]

Soggy

Mush

https://tenor.com/view/mix-dessert-pecan-praline-recipe-food-porn-yum-gif-14037662

[split steppe]

i tried kde today. i'm going back to gnome

[warped narwhal]

...

You like gnome?

[kind nimbus]

why?

[warped narwhal]

You need to see a doctor, there is something wrong with your brain and it's probably terminal

[split steppe]

1. completely inconsistent UI across applications, not to mention it just looks bad
2. terrible defaults, i had to change dozens of settings to get primitive desktop functionality working or visible
3. dog slow, everything takes literally twice as long than on gnome
4. has both too many settings and not enough necessary functionality everywhere at the same time, which i don't understand how that's possible

and more, i just aint dealing with all that

and nobody is even making anything that can fix that

[warped narwhal]

Now go to gnome and set the monitor scaling to 150%

[kind nimbus]

also Mutter 🤮

why integrate your shitty compositor so deeply into the DE

[kind nimbus]

i thought you were talking about Gnome

[split steppe]

i do actually, works well, i even use 125%. fractional scaling has been there for a long time now

[split steppe]

every time i try kde i can't stand it

[warped narwhal]

Maybe nixos just doesn't have it. But last I heard it actually only sets the font scaling

So ui is not scaled correctly but the text is

[kind nimbus]

Gnome is literally so much slower and has much more terrible defaults compared to KDE

without external tweak tools and extensions Gnome is completely unusable

[split steppe]

oh also i had several applications crash randomly, and dolphin somehow makes basic file operations slow

[silent cloak]

Dont use either tbh

XFCE

[warped narwhal]

Ok grandpa

[kind nimbus]

Nautilus still had that bug for several years where copy operations dont finish like wtf is going on there it just gets stuck on 100%

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-gif-5430850758035663288

[split steppe]

that hasn't been the case even years before fractional scaling was fully completed

[split steppe]

been using gnome for 8+ years straight, never had a problem with that

[kind nimbus]

i had it every single time

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sleep-dog-sleeping-w-goofy-sleeping-sound-gif-5498863985254423453

Nixos ad break

[split steppe]

you may have misconfigured fsync

[warped narwhal]

Nautilus was unusable for me because it cannot read NFS permissions

[kind nimbus]

no other friends using Gnome had it as well

[warped narwhal]

So the root dir on both my shares could not be written to

[split steppe]

dolphin doesn't even do nfs

[warped narwhal]

And the bug was closed as "won't fix"

[warped narwhal]

Yes it does?

Built in

[kind nimbus]

it does and smb as well

[split steppe]

smb works, didn't see nfs anywhere in the net setup

[silent cloak]

I just use smb tbh

[warped narwhal]

Type the address into the search bar and then bookmark the folder

[silent cloak]

Lets u work with windows too if ur feeling silly

[kind nimbus]

windows does nfs too since win10

smb is slow

[warped narwhal]

SMB is the bane of my existence

[silent cloak]

Proof?

I use it for my media server

[split steppe]

anyway, nfs doesn't fix the myriad of other breaking issues in kde

[warped narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[kind nimbus]

https://blog.ja-ke.tech/2019/08/27/nas-performance-sshfs-nfs-smb.html

always when i used smb, nfs was much faster

[split steppe]

why would you go through the pain of setting up nfs when sshfs just works

[warped narwhal]

Gnome does have good built-in wallpapers, and I like the "start menu", but there were just too many things that just don't exist by default, and you need a million different extensions.

[kind nimbus]

nfs is easy to setup?

[split steppe]

sshfs/sftp requires no setup?

[warped narwhal]

Why would you go through the pain of setting up gitlab when git works over ssh?

[split steppe]

completely different question

[silent cloak]

Encryption related

[split steppe]

if you have a job requirement, literally nobody cares. for personal use why bother

[silent cloak]

Give me a real test

I dont need AES levels of encryption on a local network

[warped narwhal]

On a side note, the holy bible arrived at my house today

[silent cloak]

I got one of those

Fire

Though overpriced at times

[glass jetty]

cha

[warped narwhal]

I saw the price for the hardback and just went "nope"

[rough bloom]

it literally tests plain SMB vs plain NFS

[silent cloak]

Mine is second hand

[warped narwhal]

But I had an Amazon voucher from my family for my birthday so I got the paperback

[rough bloom]

and finds that they're about equal, so it doesn't actually matter which one you use

[trim valve]

[silent cloak]

Didnt read then i guess

Because it explicitly says it has encryption enabled for SMB

[trim valve]

is #baking really this bad at reading

it compares both

[silent cloak]

Can only read grandmas recipe book

[trim valve]

[glass jetty]

yes

[tender river]

i ate my last cinnamon roll

[silent cloak]

Must be hiding it then

Under some paywall

Because its not there on my screen

Or perhaps someone paid my router off

[trim valve]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-missile-explosion-kitten-baby-gif-12020335096465661960

[opaque sigil]

[glass jetty]

btw
about reading
i kinda read english fast, at least fast enough (tho sometimes still cant follow chat, tho i cant follow fast chat even in my native)
what would be your recommendation to get english grammar right
i kinda find myself typing as i think, and i frequently omit a/the and swap verb/noun when i shouldnt
thats hard
and i wonder whatever it is actually required or not...

[opaque sigil]

tldr: don't use aes with smb

[split steppe]

tldr get pwned because smb is full of holes

[silent cloak]

U know what else is full of holes

[rough bloom]

🧀

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/brmiC.gif

[opaque wharf]

AI jewelry

[hard delta]

do we have any dirt on bazzite or cachy

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/gimli-gif-27479445

[hard delta]

like this anecdote-tier thing where someone exposed them as like an nsa honeypot os

[sage crag]

genie of the lamp

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

[silent cloak]

My ai jewelry when i approach a baby stroller

[sage crag]

intrusive thoughts have been automated

[split steppe]

why would they be a honeypot?

[silent cloak]

Imagine neuro in ur ear all day

[sage crag]

bee zee zee zee

[glass jetty]

nightmare

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/familyguy-driver-gif-4679747

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/hyvpFPwnY8a.gif

[opaque wharf]

What are you going to do?

[sage crag]

||a||

wrr

[silent cloak]

I feel like if evil was freed into the world she would have the exact same story as stitch from lilo and stitch

[sage crag]

hamburber

[silent cloak]

i kind of wanna see that as a movie ngl

with the roles swapped

[silent cloak]

wℝℝ

[rigid snow]

[opaque wharf]

Dragon dog

[silent cloak]

set of real numbers

[sick owl]

They're doing unreal engine 6

Dear god

[silent cloak]

i only saw one of these bad boys irl once at a best buy

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-siren-dawg-with-the-light-on-him-sailorzoop-dog-gif-2844905554045249724

https://tenor.com/view/big-snoopa-borzoi-gif-18488820

they are the natural predator of the pitbull

funny enough

[sick owl]

The duality of slop

[split steppe]

my friend is obsessed with borzois

[silent cloak]

until one of them fires at them

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-combat-esperborzoi-dodge-dog-gif-27406623

[kind fable]

meow

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/iSai6QwmHKr.gif

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-meme-smack-hit-gif-14682331153624420698

SILENCE

[kind fable]

MEOW

https://tenor.com/view/pay-attention-to-me-one-orange-brain-cell-kitten-cat-meow-gif-16762328332322827176

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-wunkus-silly-cat-gif-15459501743584172385

[glass jetty]

meow

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/jasminevampirecatswing-gif-20689177

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/hI8fwiaOmDA.gif

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-greenscreen-gif-5649293510147604779

how can mirrors be true if our eyes arent real

[glass jetty]

verify that mirror is true with science

[split steppe]

here's some easy 5 minute braindamage for you, why are mirrors mirrored left to right but not top to bottom

enjoy thinking about that for a bit

[silent cloak]

because its a depth flip in reality

they flip images front to back

left-right is technically due to our brains interpreting the image that way

and how we compare our own bodies to the reflection

[split steppe]

aw youre no fun

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-win-gif-18390652

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/hMN5GEWm7Vv.gif

[glass jetty]

love that sometimes programming become general

[silent cloak]

"sometimes"

[split steppe]

i thought this was baking

[silent cloak]

actually guys

we should do a statistical report of this channel

a simple pi chart

of what fields are most talked about here

programming, shitposts, hardware, unrelated

and advertisements (NixOS)

[glass jetty]

where is programming?

[split steppe]

look at what i did the other day (3 months ago)

[glass jetty]

ai

[silent cloak]

we rarely get real AI chats

just kind of news snippets

rather than like interesting front lines of research AI questions/debates/discussions

[glass jetty]

no i mean topic
ai is most popular topic

[silent cloak]

i think the most popular topic in here is cats

[glass jetty]

[silent cloak]

actually na

[silent cloak]

but in the server as a whole it makes up a decent part

simple test

[split steppe]

actual picture of vedal's basement

[glass jetty]

meow

[silent cloak]

NOOOO MY STATISTICS

[glass jetty]

i think this art is most powerful

[silent cloak]

the real question though

why wont the scrape on her knee heal

and how did she get it

did vedal give her a perma injury?

is that an evil act?

[glass jetty]

it is usb plug

[silent cloak]

is she really evil because she has an injury that lasts forever?

[split steppe]

she keeps hitting it on purpose so she can put a sticker on there because the internet said it's cute

[broken willow]

Hi everyone, I'm gathering a team to develop an idea for a new AI architecture https://github.com/ShmidtS/HAGI/blob/main/docs/architecture_diagrams.md maybe some of you would like to participate.

[split steppe]

not again

[silent cloak]

if its a transformer model ill laugh right now

[glass jetty]

stop with ai slop

no real programmers actually like ai

[silent cloak]

Mike Shmidt

from the hit fnaf series

[split steppe]

atleast this has more graphs and math than the usual pitch

[silent cloak]

is it a transformer model

[split steppe]

with extra steps i guess

[silent cloak]

so no new architecture

got it

[broken willow]

In general yes, but the idea is a little different.

[glass flower]

no, no... you don't understand. this time its different!

[silent cloak]

look into an SNN model or something else

hell even look back into liquid neural networks

anything is better than a transformer model

[split steppe]

dont you think naming it Hypercomplex Artificial General Intelligence is a bit on the nose

can these people can be any more pretentious

[silent cloak]

(unless nvidia is sponsoring you in which case the product result doesnt matter)

[rough bloom]

co-authored by Claude 🏛️

[broken willow]

So the concept is to teach you to see the meanings)

[silent cloak]

bruhhh

https://tenor.com/view/cloudy-with-a-chance-of-meatballs-it's-enough-to-make-a-grown-man-cry-die-earl-devereaux-rip-gif-11770651815678506576

i got a saw trap idea

trap a ton of transformer devs into a room with a wheel

the way to escape is to walk out the door without reinventing it

[split steppe]

👌

i'll invent a "Hypercomplex AGI" using a tool that is physically incapable of coming up with new ideas

[glass flower]

i would generally recommend not getting your idea glazed by AI. If a AI glazes you for having a great idea.... its probably stupid

[silent cloak]

literally

AGI is physically impossible using a transformer model

[split steppe]

who did the verification

[broken willow]

It's just a draft.

[glass flower]

same thing... if a AI says your draft is good... its probably not

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/rjdz9NpxPl7.gif

[glass jetty]

you still talk about it?

ai is most popular talk here

meow

[silent cloak]

u have to use both now

to balance it out

[glass jetty]

i will start to add meow after every ai word

meow

[glass flower]

you need to add 2 meows

[glass jetty]

where?

[glass flower]

to overtake it

[glass jetty]

meow

meow

[glass flower]

that is correct

[glass jetty]

meow!

i have a script

i wonder is it still work

[split steppe]

This lets the model "think" not merely in vector space but in a geometrically rich structure where relations between concepts are governed by rotors and bivectors.

my guy, you're still in vector space

[flint dome]

why do llm models that use transformers at their core always recommend transformers the most for any other application that needs ai but doesn't have a transformer yet

[silent cloak]

its crazy how it still wont think at all

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/ixPDfBn9wTq.gif

[silent cloak]

because its all they can comprehend

because most of the people suggesting them dont actually do AI research

they are parroting as much as their LLM models

[glass jetty]

ive found it

lets go

[glass flower]

true. someone should make a decepticon model

[stark needle]

Cause transformers are only specialized at sequence prediction, classification or embedding

[glass jetty]

e

no

it no longer work

wonder why

because i broke string omg

"CharaVerkys: "meow" ~meow

[silent cloak]

should have had a transformer model predict that it would break

smh

[glass jetty]

"CharaVerkys: "yeey" ~meow

[silent cloak]

so silly of you

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "meow with me" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "lets meow together" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "qwe" ~meow

[split steppe]

meowzers

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "text and " ~meow

CharaVerkys: "yap this one broken" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "but not ``` formatting works" ~meow

[flint dome]

but why is it always a god damn transformer why is it never an SSM

or any other for that matter

[silent cloak]

muh NVIDIA stocks

[split steppe]

why not just try something completely new

[silent cloak]

it must be floating point inefficiency

[silent cloak]

holy shit finally

giving u a fucking crown king

[split steppe]

is anybody trying to build an intelligent system from first principles anymore

[silent cloak]

finally some actual genius in the field of AI research

[split steppe]

where's all the actual innovation

[flint dome]

personal chagrin of mine: must force transformers into robotics!!!!!!!!

like the ssm stuff like mamba is RIGHT there

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "and at same time only good use of ai is prediction and classification" ~meow

[flint dome]

i mean if i ever figure out what the fuck ai is ill be happy to

[opaque wharf]

Maybe it is related to attention

And the fact that it is so good at signal mxing

[silent cloak]

artificial intelligence

[kind nimbus]

Some Seasonic Prime 80+ Titanium with 600w

But looks like there is still connectors free for a GPU. Though there is also a 13900k in there which needs some power.

[split steppe]

certainly artificial, lacking on the intelligence part

[silent cloak]

transformer models are closer to a stat nerd's algorithm (and is) than a brain

the only similarity is in names

no its not a "neuron"

[flint dome]

for high level stuff and processing a vague text command? transformer makes sense. but for continuous stuff instead of one discrete calculation after the other, i feel an ssm works better

[proven merlin]

Artificial Incompetence

[split steppe]

actually, indians

[flint dome]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[broken willow]

And in what architecture would my proposed attention mechanism be able to work besides transformers?

[silent cloak]

the honest truth is trying to make proper AI needs two fields

[flint dome]

hi hello yes thats me im here

[silent cloak]

neural science

and software engineering

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "nah" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "you need bio computer" ~meow

[split steppe]

well sadly we don't even know what a neuron does to this day

[opaque wharf]

No, even for time domain stuff you'll got better result if you have richer context that can send signal to the future data

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "train it for 40 years and you got real intelligence " ~meow

[proven merlin]

Im still confident true AGI itself wont need more than 128mb ram but thats just a random guess lol

[silent cloak]

i suggest spiking neural networks yes, but thats because its the best current possibility

before it came around i suggested liquid neural networks

[split steppe]

imo we'll grow brains in a vat before we do it digitally, because it's just cheaper

[silent cloak]

im thankful to the researchers who come up with newer and better shit

[proven merlin]

I mean we already do.. we trained a brain to render doom..

[flint dome]

i suppose then the best way forward is to try and create the new framework that combines the best of the worlds

but of course that will take a hell of a time because thats.... actual research

[split steppe]

because we do already grow brains in a vat, it's just "not ethical" or whatever

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "what the fuck is liquid nn" ~meow

[flint dome]

didnt thought emporium train rat brains to play doom

[split steppe]

we didn't exactly, but it's close enough

[opaque wharf]

Correct

[proven merlin]

Yeah but thats a rat + brain

[silent cloak]

they are continuous models closer to transformer models and not like SNN ones

[proven merlin]

Well, play a video of doom, sure.

[silent cloak]

they have some neural plasticity to a degree

because they can adapt their weights during runtime

(similar to SNNs though)

[proven merlin]

Does Google HOPE count?

[silent cloak]

thats a key concept for any future model tech

[silent cloak]

not sure

[split steppe]

if i get rich enough to retire i'll work on actual AGI and consciousness research for the remainder of my life

[silent cloak]

liquid neural networks were the biggest potential successor for a while

but SNNs have been on the rise for the past year or so

but who knows they could overtake again

[proven merlin]

Should be this paper
https://research.google/blog/introducing-nested-learning-a-new-ml-paradigm-for-continual-learning/

[silent cloak]

SNNs are based more on actual neurons in the brain but LNNs are kind of a compromise between ANNs and SNNs

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "what is ann" ~meow

[silent cloak]

traditional slop transformer models

[proven merlin]

There were even some Models trained on it already but idk how useful or good that implementation was..

[kind nimbus]

Evil Stirling

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "erm; so basically, liquid is just cool name?" ~meow

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "meow" ~meow

[silent cloak]

its because its not frozen and static

the weights of an ANN are frozen after training

[split steppe]

it's all maybe like a 1% abstraction of an idea of what neurons might be doing

[silent cloak]

yeah naturally

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "so what is difference to spiking one?" ~meow

[silent cloak]

there are many different neuron models people look at

leaky is probably the most used one for SNNs right now

[split steppe]

call me when openworm works for real, that's when shit really starts to get going

[silent cloak]

ok so spiking is similar to how neurons actually fire

[nocturne olive]

Hello what goes on here today?

[silent cloak]

there is no floating point

[split steppe]

slop, as usual

[silent cloak]

when a neuron is spiked it has a rate of decay before the signal is truly "off"

[nocturne olive]

#slop

[silent cloak]

it also means its able to take temporal data

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "we say meow, so there less % of ai words in this channel" ~meow

[silent cloak]

which gives it a concept of "time"

which is missing from ANNs

[nocturne olive]

[flint dome]

hasn't nvidia been working on this with neotron and hymba (whatever in gods green earth they named it, what kind of crack are they smoking to come up with these names?), let's hope the stolen oracle money gets work done faster

[silent cloak]

it also opens the way for REAL multi purpose models

because u can detect spikes as certain "regions" of the "brain"

and use that to fire actions

because u cant really intercept that stuff in traditional models

thats part of why people really like their potential use in robotics

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "what was stolen? when? what?" ~meow

[split steppe]

we're still trying to figure out how neurons communicate, and spiking doesn't seem to be the only way apparently https://www.science.org/content/article/neurons-can-communicate-hidden-network-nanotubes-study-finds

[silent cloak]

they also would be FAR lower power because they dont need GPUs

[split steppe]

not to forget a huge chunk still misunderstood which is chemical neurotransmitters

[silent cloak]

yeah thats why i say its very much the field of actual neural science with computer science atm

[flint dome]

didnt oracle give iou money to nvidia for openai asking data center who in turn gave iou money to oracle for said data center then backed off, leaving oracle stranded with useless data center and nvidia hardware which they had to pay up for

maybe im rambling or I remember it wrong

[silent cloak]

we keep finding new shit about how our own brains work

which then lets developers develop better potential models

SNNs are just one option too

[flint dome]

what happened to the brain of that fruit fly they managed to somehow map out can we not get a dude good at that here

[silent cloak]

i actively encourage people to explore other options and just not stick to slop transformer models

doesnt even need to be SNNs just something else

[split steppe]

techbros - we will create superintelligence which will enslave all of humanity
actual scientists - bro we don't even know what a neuron does or why it does what it does

hubris

[split steppe]

also you can scoop out someone's entire brain and they will still work (mostly) fine sometimes

[opaque wharf]

BSD folks:

[silent cloak]

its a mapping yes, but thats like trying to find out what shoe someone used based on a footprint

there is still alot of work going into it

[flint dome]

thats.....thats obvious.... I thought we had that already.......

wgat ze fuck you mean its new, this happens because we use a mix of electric and chemical system.... why didnt they realize that....

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "@maiden geyser" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "really?" ~meow

[fiery girder]

seriously??? linux?? i am changing my windows riight now 🫡

[kind nimbus]

Yea where BSD?

[silent cloak]

its been in development for a long time though

[maiden geyser]

what the flip

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "goood" ~meow

[silent cloak]

trying to do it properly for this type of tech

[split steppe]

multics people

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "windwos???? you prefer windows???" ~meow

[silent cloak]

NVIDIA has even taken swings at it

[glass flower]

templeOS users in shambles

[silent cloak]

but they cant make as much money off of it naturally

[flint dome]

okay thank god I was about to actively lose my marbles

[split steppe]

windows is actually dead imo, valve will eat it

[silent cloak]

yeah na u can read some pretty early 2000s papers

and NVIDIA did a presentation on it in like 2015 i wanna say?

[flint dome]

may as well be dead

[silent cloak]

some year around that?

[flint dome]

frankly they killed it

[silent cloak]

researchers are still working

[maiden geyser]

and next year's the year of linux for sure this time

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "imagine world where every pc only run unix" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "paradise" ~meow

[split steppe]

tru

[silent cloak]

the current situation is they're bruteforcing dead end tech for a purpose it wasnt built for

[flint dome]

until someone wakes up from their slumber and throws some money at this idea to try and push us forward we're stuck

[split steppe]

nonsense, there's an economy to burn for 5 minutes of fame

[silent cloak]

its like having a markov chain run a hospital

its a bad idea

[kind nimbus]

was this even in #1095941852068331560 ?

I quickly checked and could not find the original.

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/b0omV.gif

[flint dome]

bad is an understatement

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "search by image on google; i not know author probably; if you really want i can find out who it was" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "would take a time" ~meow

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "also; imagine world where every unix also have standard main api, like files" ~meow

[kind nimbus]

i mean i would assume the author should be on this discord

so i was wondering why it was not posted in art

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "maybe it is old art" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "and you just not found it" ~meow

[kind nimbus]

maybe

[flint dome]

what kind of comedic chekhov gun is there that hardware originally meant for displaying video and then gaming is also good for ai

[split steppe]

i do think the one mistake unix made was making strings/files the primary interface, should have been objects

[flint dome]

NO

FUCK OOP

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "no" ~meow

[split steppe]

not OOP, objects

[flint dome]

FUCK OBJECTS IN GENERAL

[split steppe]

as smalltalk

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "strings and ints are fine" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "you need only layer" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "wrap it in any way you want at higher abstraction" ~meow

[split steppe]

structured messaging between systems and processes

[flint dome]

apologies for my outburst

[kind nimbus]

did a reverse image search:
https://x.com/kasoke308/status/2049971534459293828

忽悠💫 (@kasoke308)

🎻
CM by Soul

#heartheartart

X · Apr 30, 2026, 9:57 PM

[flint dome]

throw in a struct and call it a day

[split steppe]

if you hate oop you still have a long way to go as a dev

[flint dome]

i know

[kind nimbus]

artist seems to be https://x.com/kasoke308

忽悠💫 (@kasoke308) on X

＞The Swarm_🐢推｜雜🎨: Neuroverse.少女歌劇.NieR.ウマ娘｜禁止無斷轉載｜ Commissions：https://t.co/v567c9iGs9 ｜ Pixiv：kasoke_308 / Ins：kasoke.308 / OC：@kasoke308oc

X

[flint dome]

i simply hate what is abstracted unless if I can understand it well

[split steppe]

original idea wasn't about the structs, classes or whatever

[opaque wharf]

Lol, lmao even
https://www.tomsguide.com/ai/people-will-buy-intelligence-from-us-on-a-meter-chatgpts-ceo-sam-altman-has-critics-worried-with-his-ai-vision

[flint dome]

I know, terrible joke of mine

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "objects are fixed structure" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "with id and strings + different syscalls, you can add any new functions or fields" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "kernel and user space are completely separate" ~meow

[flint dome]

https://tenor.com/view/he-made-a-statement-so-confusing-liam-gallagher-oasis-gif-4277974339249990382

[split steppe]

everyone somehow glances over the part where he said

if we don't have enough, the price just goes really high and it all goes to rich people 🙂

freudian slip

[maiden geyser]

real old news

[split steppe]

objects aren't fixed structures

[opaque wharf]

I just wanna know wtf is he smoking lol

[split steppe]

it's only a convention for optimization

[flint dome]

why do I feel like these people are villains crafted as comically evil as possible to distract us from the real shadow society running us all (CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT)

[flint dome]

am I the only one who thinks this and am I schizo or am i thinking something

[split steppe]

it's become comically evil because they realised nobody actually does anything. if you've seen the Boys, it's ironically a very accurate portrayal of modern day politics

[glass jetty]

when i killed some one by cutting off their neck
i am a schizo hereCharaVerkys: "today i had a dream" ~meow

[split steppe]

homelander just murders people on TV live and half the world just cheered on

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "omg" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "ok " ~meow

CharaVerkys: "it is broken" ~meow

[kind nimbus]

nvm it was already posted in #1095941852068331560
found it: https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1499528766337192038

[flint dome]

so is it simply apathy that will kill us all

could have been grander but okay

[split steppe]

apathy of the majority, encouragement by a loud minority with an outsided outreach because the internet makes distribution global and instant

evil is boring and banal

[flint dome]

okay time to pack up my bags and follow my old saint teacher into the mountains

maybe he did have something correct in trying to find god

[split steppe]

it would be the best thing you could do with your life

[flint dome]

i believe you

[opaque wharf]

That's why the pipeline from programmer to farmer exists

[maiden geyser]

almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[flint dome]

the old logic system i read in our old holy scriptures is also pretty interesting too, with half states apart from a 0, 1 and -1 state instead of just 0 and 1 in typical boolean logic

could be fun trying to come up with logic rules for that and deriving computing using that

[split steppe]

no need, we'll make earth inhospitable to us soon enough

the last time to act was 20 years ago

[flint dome]

already i live in hell outside today temprature was 120 farenheit

[split steppe]

i just hope the next monkeys that develop after us heed the warnings

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "i wonder if making model on any fake output set score to -1000; will this model just say i not know every time; " ~meow

[split steppe]

that's just trinary, we have trinary systems

[maiden geyser]

why are you writing like this

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "why not" ~meow

[rigid snow]

cringe

[flint dome]

5 states instead of the typical 2..... hmm maybe that could help resolve some uncertainty present naturally in boolean systems

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "you are cringe" ~meow

[split steppe]

cuz hes got

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "this is just a bad script" ~meow

[flint dome]

no our old holy scriptures have logic based on 5 states

[teal cipher]

in the future... where coding is done by chanting to system... and using ointments

[bitter phoenix]

Ohh are you using your token to talk

[split steppe]

too many for a discrete system, at that point just switch to good old analog, infinite states

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "what?" ~meow

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "what?" ~meow

[bitter phoenix]

You mentioned a script

[split steppe]

warhammer?

https://tenor.com/rWi0tLwpG9O.gif

[teal cipher]

haha yeah... warhammer 40K XD

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "what is token here" ~meow

[flint dome]

apparently they wrote an entire ass rulebook and logic inference system for it too

if i ever get the time to revise my sanskrit maybe ill translate it into modern mathematics

[split steppe]

would be interesting to see

[bitter phoenix]

I mean a discord account token, the same one you use by default in your broswer to talk using your discord account, if you want you can find it and put it in a script and talk via programming, is that what's up?

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "no, it is js lvl script" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "front page one" ~meow

[bitter phoenix]

Ah like browser automation

I've used that for lots of things

[stark needle]

self botting my beloved ✅

[bitter phoenix]

self botting my beloved ✅

wh I just copy pasted

[split steppe]

btw i just realised that article is ai generated

[bitter phoenix]

that wasn't botting btw

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "true true" ~meow

[teal cipher]

give it a while and it becomes specialty to understand how to read video game code or software code in general and even then it being hard due it's code that is designed for AI to understand and handle more effectively

[stark needle]

hi Clord havent seen u in a long while in #programming

[maiden geyser]

too whimsy for this cerber

[split steppe]

man, yknow we might as well be praying to the ai gods to make the code work in the future lmao, it's all the same

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "erm?" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "btw; some one actually thought i am an ai, when i used this script" ~meow

[split steppe]

go full uwu

[bitter phoenix]

I can see it. there's actually people who turn off the typing indicator which looks more like an ai

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "what typing indicator?" ~meow

[stark needle]

😭

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "several ppl are typing?" ~meow

[bitter phoenix]

there's a python script that can turn any language into pirate talk, would be fun to automatically pass anything you type through that, it would just be like autocorrect

[bitter phoenix]

You can disable the thing that pops up saying "Miyu is typing..." with client mods, or something or other I've never used them

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "you can just add garrr" ~meow

[split steppe]

myarr

mreow

[teal cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/jar-sand-jack-gif-8783973870515029275

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "mrearrr" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "mrarrr" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "mrrrraow" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "prrrr" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "i love cats" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "but i not want to have one " ~meow

[bitter phoenix]

found it https://github.com/ntoll/arrr

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "e" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "ye" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "ayou" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "ye" ~meow

[bitter phoenix]

people've passed llm sft data through this to make pirate models

which is pretty interesting

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "rn i regret not saving script that turn test into unreadable to llm text" ~meow

[maiden geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/mrow-self-control-discord-typing-meow-gif-27360864

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "that is readable to humans" ~meow

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "there no such thing as self control" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "it is conspiracy" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "nya" ~meow

[teal cipher]

I just got inspired to chat here due I have been doing game designing kind of lately... I have my own card game project and some other game ideas cooking on

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "am i doing great?" ~meow

[split steppe]

2/7 of the way there

[maiden geyser]

200 kilobytes well spent

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "v2 model is still better for me btw" ~meow

[teal cipher]

charaverkys could be a bot pretending to not be a bot... it's conspiracy! XD

[bitter phoenix]

Okay I just downloaded th' arrr code, this be basically what it sounds like when ye pass normal language through. I could imagine a way to automate this instead of just typing translating and coping over

[rigid snow]

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "yeah, probably" ~meow

[bitter phoenix]

Not that different

Or I just used a lot of uncovered keywords

[viral oasis]

Meow

[stark needle]

ur art has gotten really good i like it btw

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "meow!" ~meow

[viral oasis]

meow meow!

[glass jetty]

[viral oasis]

Meow... x1000000!!!1111

[rigid snow]

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "there already 310+ meow in this channel" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "almost 1% of all meow on this server" ~meow

[viral oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-ok-okay-okey-nice-gif-1656683540668666405

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "just need x2 more" ~meow

[split steppe]

chara singlehandedly inflating the meow economy

[viral oasis]

meow x2.5

[frosty summit]

Ohayo guys

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "why x2.5" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "there total 50k meow" ~meow

[frosty summit]

does anyone know wth is going on here?

[viral oasis]

I'm so sorry... I've decided... INFINITE MEOWS ♾️

[opaque wharf]

Nope

No idea at all

[fickle rain]

You’re pirating video games

[frosty summit]

qbit eats 36mbits per sec, but downloading only 3

[bitter phoenix]

I can't read any of the letters

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "i know this app" ~meow

[frosty summit]

oh shit, i cauhgt

[bitter phoenix]

except dome keeper 🤝

[glass jetty]

[fickle rain]

Consider not pirating them

[bitter phoenix]

You should be able to throttle it in settings if its too much

[maiden geyser]

36 Mb/s -> 4.5 MB/s
2.8 MB/s + 1000 KB/s = 3.8 MB/s

[split steppe]

bits vs bytes ye

divide by 8

[viral oasis]

personally I divide by 0.

more fun

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/RVTY.gif

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "i actually wouldnt be surprised, if turns out that windows count network load wrong" ~meow

[frosty summit]

wait what

no

[viral oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/osaka-spin-azumanga-daioh-azumanga-anime-gif-13422167952658823729

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "ah it count both up and download????" ~meow

[split steppe]

ye, what Dave showed

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "what a shit" ~meow

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "yes" ~meow

[frosty summit]

bits is like 1000bits is 1kilobit. 1000kbits is 1mbit

[maiden geyser]

probably?

[frosty summit]

isnt it?

[split steppe]

nono, a byte is 8 bits

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "that actually match, so" ~meow

[split steppe]

as in individual 0/1 digits

[maiden geyser]

1 MB = 8 Mb

[proven merlin]

You politically(corporationally?) correct person, tze (lol)

[split steppe]

so when it says 36 Mbits, it means individual 0s or 1s

if you divide taskmanager Mbits by 8 you get bytes, which is what bittorrent uses to measure, marked MB for capital Bytes

[frosty summit]

oh wait

really

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "i will pirate keep driving soon; if ill find any" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "game looks great" ~meow

[maiden geyser]

unit of measurement even stupider than francium

[frosty summit]

omg i feel dumb

but thanks

[proven merlin]

I think you mean the exact opposite but yes

[split steppe]

yea its confusing sometimes

[split steppe]

o ye ye i think

[proven merlin]

As a refresher, taskmanager bigger number

[split steppe]

no wait i do mean what i wrote

see confusing even for us

[proven merlin]

Taskmgr uses Mbit/s, qBittorent does MB/s

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "if you divide 36 by 8 you get 4-5 MB" ~meow

[proven merlin]

It litterally shows on the image

[split steppe]

oh ye

i forgot the image

[proven merlin]

Mood

[silk dust]

Mine a donkey run come back to me. Free anthropic subcriptiones!! Congrat me

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "what protocol are you using btw?" ~meow

[fickle rain]

Yoooooo free tokens?????

[silk dust]

67

[maiden geyser]

you're pirating video games

[fickle rain]

Skill issue

[split steppe]

tfw your region doesn't have any games because the world hates you rn

[proven merlin]

Nah nah, you don't understand, theyre low spec gamers. DRM disabled = more fps

[fickle rain]

The hypervisor “cracks” will actually decrease FPS

IDK if any cracks actually remove DRM

[proven merlin]

Luckly nobody uses those cuz theyre shit anyway and there are alternatives

[maiden geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/agnes-tachyon-umamusume-gif-4405612656862372460

[proven merlin]

Plenty real ones do, mainly older ones tho.

[fickle rain]

Name some for Denuvo

[proven merlin]

voices38 is a alternative

[nocturne olive]

Wispers spotted

[proven merlin]

Not universal

[fickle rain]

Does it actually remove Denuvo from the executable

[proven merlin]

Because its a real per game type deal

[fickle rain]

If it does not, it will not affect framerates compared to the legit copy

[high brook]

God i hate that most download speeds are measured in megabytes, but internet speed is measured in megabits

[nocturne olive]

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "skill issue" ~meow

[proven merlin]

I hope talking about those things are fine, id assume only links are bad or how to get em-?

[nocturne olive]

But bigger number better for advertising

[proven merlin]

Not sure but it for sure skips checks.. was mainly talking about older games tho

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "we have 2^40 bits of data!" ~meow

[split steppe]

like when manufacturers say TB and windows uses TiB to measure disk sizes so you get less disk for your disk

[high brook]

Not a skill issue. Its intentional confusion by isps to market slower internet speeds to laymen that don't know better

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "wonder what is my speedtest now" ~meow

[nocturne olive]

"100Mbit" just sounds a lot better to the average person than "12.5MB"

[high brook]

Lol right

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "because of how cable work btw" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "if you really want a reason" ~meow

CharaVerkys: "20mbit/s for me rn" ~meow

[split steppe]

you get 100 000 000 bits of internet!

[high brook]

Lol

[high brook]

Rip. I use to have 12. It suuucked

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "what?" ~meow

[high brook]

Ow I have 100

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "when i used vless reality to my server, i had max 10mbit" ~meow

[maiden geyser]

totally not because they're greedy and actually can do 1g anywhere there is cat 5e

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "it is double!" ~meow

[rigid snow]

i wanna rent an h200 for an hour, what can i do with it

so i have an excuse to do it

[fickle rain]

https://fxtwitter.com/momo5502/status/2042981095369515357#m

Maurice Heumann (@momo5502)

↩ (@DerClown03)
@DerClown03 @tomshardware I suspect issues in the benchmark. Voices' cracks only patch Denuvo in a way it thinks it's running on hardware the license was generated for (at least the ones I saw). so no performance gains are to be expected. maybe the crack was made for an older game version or so, idk

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FxTwitter · Apr 11, 2026, 3:00 PM

From guy who actually did analysis on Denuvo

[teal cipher]

I have had wait for years to get better internet, not because of money but questionable infastructure... also having internet be more reliable without daily hiccups suddenly dropping data stream almost zero

[split steppe]

copper has physical distance limits cuz of resistance so needs repeaters/routers occasionally

fiber is the good shit

[opaque wharf]

Have you covered the living expense after the gpu that you bought the other day?

[teal cipher]

fiber is what the computers crave

[rigid snow]

no

[split steppe]

indeed

[opaque wharf]

[split steppe]

feed your computer plenty of beans

https://tenor.com/boxgF.gif

[glass jetty]

CharaVerkys: "some one proposed 18+ content" ~meow

[maiden geyser]

surely they're straight-up connecting me to their isp HQ without any "repeaters/routers" connected by fiber in the building's basement

[split steppe]

you definitely need less, also because nowadays we bury all our cables, so we can pull it even further out

with copper you're hard limited by physics, not so much with fiber

[bitter phoenix]

I think just getting colab pro+ is better

[split steppe]

fiber needs almost no maintenance too, nothing happens to it

[glass jetty]

@molten island say it to him by yourself

[teal cipher]

cables being buried is so smart even if it's a bit of pain and expense to dig them up