programming

[kind nimbus]

Is that a Dr who reference lmao

[split steppe]

honestly, he should have died, granting him a free pass just made him a permanent mary sue

the regen has no point anymore, he is by all means actually invincible and immortal now

[kind nimbus]

But then the show would have ended

[split steppe]

it would have been a good ending

they could have started another show in the same universe like torchwood

[kind nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/subrote-doctor-who-dr-who-tennant-david-tennant-gif-12186647223159694082

[split steppe]

theres an endless amount of incredible characters there

like you still have master, you have his wife, etc

[kind nimbus]

There already are the Sarah Jane adventures and torchwood and class

So a lot of spinoffs already

[split steppe]

yea and theres plenty more they could make, its a treasure trove

[kind nimbus]

Sure but nothing is like the original

[split steppe]

and like, you can still have the doctor tho, because its timetravel

[kind nimbus]

Ok and then Chinballs ruined the show

[split steppe]

but he shouldnt be the focus anymore, its too much

i miss the selfish doctor who would commit genocide for those he loved 🙁

[kind nimbus]

I was hoping RTD could bring that back

[rigid snow]

gpt models love randomly dropping implementation details into the layout. like bruh what why put that there what

this is a working better auth .. shut the fuck up

[split steppe]

they are prolly pressured from up top to be "politically correct" and safe now, driven by various interest groups

capaldi era pretty much started cracking hard

[split steppe]

lol what do you expect from a clanker

[kind nimbus]

The political correctness just destroys everything

[rigid snow]

to not do that which shouldn't be too hard considering gpt models are unique in this

[split steppe]

they're all gpt models

[rigid snow]

openai models

[split steppe]

meh, i've never seen any of them do anything coherently

[kind nimbus]

Everytime I try gpt again Claude opus is miles ahead in about anything lol

[split steppe]

and i am miles ahead of any of them

[trim valve]

https://github.com/oven-sh/bun/pull/31351

idk how they keep managing to make bun worse

[tender river]

they should write each compile unit in a separate language

[split steppe]

"small change, ez review"

[olive sable]

[kind nimbus]

and i am miles behind any of them

[trim valve]

from what I've read it doesn't even really help much

[olive sable]

"removed useless code, added good code"

[split steppe]

soooo they're moving away from the rust rewrite they just did a couple weeks ago???

[trim valve]

no just for this one function

because they couldn't get it to vectorize

[split steppe]

so now you need 3 different compilers to build bun right

[trim valve]

it already had CPP stuff apparently because of v8

[split steppe]

man i detest the js ecosystem

[trim valve]

just don't use js

[split steppe]

forced to if i want to make a proper website

[silent cloak]

Its not nice to lie

[trim valve]

fake news sold by big JavaScript

[split steppe]

i'll never let js on backend though

[kind nimbus]

What even is Bun? 🐇

[trim valve]

js runtime that prides itself on being fast

[olive sable]

bnuy

[kind nimbus]

Ah ok

[split steppe]

if you need dynamic functionality for web based software, ya you do, or the interactivity is complete ass

i only write vanillajs though

[silent cloak]

Bun is as good as dead

[trim valve]

got acquired by anthropic and they vibe translated it from zig to rust because zig banned ai contributions or something

[kind nimbus]

Lol

[silent cloak]

Based zig

[glass jetty]

it is not a lie

[silent cloak]

Ive been migrating my stuff back to node

[kind nimbus]

I'm also just vibe coding 90% but that's just because i can't code

[trim valve]

https://github.com/oven-sh/bun/pull/30412

[mental path]

smelly vibecorders

[trim valve]

it had a great pr

[glass jetty]

not codder

[silent cloak]

Vibe typers would be a better name

[trim valve]

won't even load the image preview

[glass jetty]

100% not programmer

[silent cloak]

Rebrand vibecoders to vibetypers

[kind nimbus]

Eh i can do other things good

[split steppe]

rebrand them to vibrators because they move in circles and disturb others

[silent cloak]

But yeah its a shame we lost bun

There is another option i cant remember the name of besides node

[glass jetty]

guys, should this fail, or my code is wrong?
isnt it should just swap buffer back and forth?

idk really, its all none, but here i expect some

[silent cloak]

Starts with a d

[split steppe]

deno

you shouldn't use any of them, because js on the backend is a horrible idea

[silent cloak]

True honestly

Which is a shame

Mostly due to convenience

[split steppe]

what's even the goal here? what's the failure?

[silent cloak]

Tbh i still do use it for discord bots

[kind nimbus]

Hey but prototype pollution and pug/ejs SSTI is fun

[silent cloak]

But thats mostly because its pretty locked down in that area

I do wish we had a decent cross platform language for objects for web dev

[trim valve]

does djs even have docs

[glass jetty]

highlighted assert
buffer is mutable...
i expected that it will result some packet, not none
since buffer should be in state that it was begin with, since buffer contain both nonce, auth tag, and cipher text

[silent cloak]

Yeah

[trim valve]

I looked a while back and only found basic docs that told me what args methods took

[silent cloak]

Might of changed idk

[trim valve]

I'm biased and used to the d.py docs that have examples idk

[glass jetty]

but maybe gcm buffer somehow disallow using on same buffer, from internal state of gcm object

[silent cloak]

I wont ever use python for production

[trim valve]

but you'll use js

[silent cloak]

For web related stuff yeah

Using Python for production is like using matlab for production

[trim valve]

calling discord bots web related feels like a stretch

[split steppe]

if i understand the code right, you're creating an encrypted buffer raw and then modifying its raw encrypted contents afterwards? that will never decrypt back out so i would expect none

[silent cloak]

It essentially just exists for the API

Not really anything desktop related

[glass jetty]

why iy will never decrypt
what gcm do on top of aes + auth tag

isnt it supposed to have no state? (except initial key)

[trim valve]

ig but like

[silent cloak]

Plus its just being looked at by discord itself

[trim valve]

to me web is the Dom and stuff

[silent cloak]

If it was some public backend then yeah

But otherwise it doesnt matter too much to me

[split steppe]

actually why are you handing a slice [4..] to the decryptor? wouldn't you want the whole packet data?

i don't understand what you're even trying to do there, your api or its usage doesn't make sense

[stark needle]

🐇

[glass jetty]

first 4 bytes is whole tcp frame data, it is stream

i decrypt on array with size from this 4 plaintext size

padding to aes block inside buffer; with some random

[split steppe]

i would expect the api to work symmetrically, if i create a Packet::into_encrypted i would pass the exact same result to Packet::from_encrypted and get out what i put in

[silent cloak]

What are u trying to make

Just a general netcode test?

[split steppe]

i would never expect it to work if i modify the encrypted buffer/data or pass a random slice

[sick owl]

Stylised graphics on a modest polygon budget were a special thing

Modern titles aping the era always feel the need to cheat

[silent cloak]

Black mesa vibes

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-half-life-1-barney-calhoun-benrey-benry-gif-14227913081941131008

[glass jetty]

that apparently is it
but packet function not modify content, decrypt function use in_place_detached
so i not understand what extra happens here, i assumed it will just use same nonce -> produce same result not matter how many times i applied decrypt twice on buffer

[split steppe]

nonce will be part of the encrypted result

[silent cloak]

Reminds me of when i built my own mc server

[split steppe]

so nonce shouldnt be the issue unless you screwed it

[silent cloak]

Gaming netcode my beloathed

[split steppe]

if you modify the encrypted contents, i would not expect it to work well in GCM either, as the chunks depend on eachother for correct decode, so i would expect a failure/no return

[trim valve]

every time I hear MC server netcode get mentioned I am obligated to post the macro I wrote

[silent cloak]

It used to be my job pretty much reading it all the time

So i get it

[trim valve]

#programming message

never finished it though

[silent cloak]

Lil different from how i did it

Mostly because i needed java parity for certain things

Which meant i had to recreate Java bs in C++

[trim valve]

[silent cloak]

Like the random functions and some other shit

Some data types

[trim valve]

the ones that annoyed me the most were the "just take the rest of the data in the packet"

because I couldn't find a good way to write that in a way that's impossible to fuck up

[silent cloak]

I could shit on minecrafts horrible netcode all day

Thankfully its not as horrible as it once was

[glass jetty]

gah i see the first an issue
i in result modified encrypted data to 0, should've save initial state

but that apparently still cause assert at same line
not it cause assert on second some omg why
now it passes first assert, it decrypt to valid data once
but when i modify buffer again, it fail
i dont understand what happening

[silent cloak]

The amount of horrible desyncs and packet duplications before though were enough to make ur blood boil

[split steppe]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galois/Counter_Mode

because gcm

do not modify the encrypted data, it will not decrypt

[sick owl]

Damn, using this game to test out lossless scaling frame gen and it has come a long way

[glass jetty]

because gcm what?

gcm is stateless...

[split steppe]

GCM encrypts in a self-validating chain of blocks, if any data is modified the whole thing fails

[glass jetty]

read again
i said already first is_some pass

and when i comment second is some - whole test pass

but now - why second is some fail?

[sick owl]

Why are we despair reacting

Frame gen is a genuinely nice utility for games with hard 60fps caps on OLED

[glass jetty]

also that kinda whole point of testing on encrypted data
to see if anything corrupt if you mess it up
apparently all (manually fixed tho) ~37 ai generated tests pass
now i want to write some manual, just in case...

[glass flower]

the more i write rust the more i actually like the language... atleast compared to the alternatives cargo is a mess tho. why do i need 50 deps to make a simple app

[split steppe]

where's this api from? sounds like it decrypts in place?

[glass jetty]

because it is

[split steppe]

if it does, then it would fail the second time, because it discarded your encrypted source

[sick owl]

Like yeah it does increase input latency but its so low on an OLED that it hardly matters in a singleplayer title

The vsync era was way worse and didn't come with the added benefit of hugely improved motion clarity

[split steppe]

so the failure is expected

[glass jetty]

no one discarded it

[glass jetty]

no, first assert pass

only mutable op here is rust crypto aes gcm impl call to decrypt in place detached

[split steppe]

print out the contents of the decoded buffers

[glass jetty]

i guess so this is the best way rn
counting

[split steppe]

if it decrypts in place, first assert will succeed, second fail as now your buffer is decoded and no longer valid ciphertext

[glass jetty]

and third should success too

[split steppe]

no

because the buffer is no longer a ciphertext

[glass jetty]

but at second decode you made it ciphertext again

[split steppe]

if you reencrypted it in the same buffer, sure, it would work

but you dont, so it fails, as expected

print the buffer out between/after each call

[glass jetty]

you think it count auth tag first, and then mutate buffer? or partially mutate it?

both not sound reasonable

[split steppe]

no idea, never seen that api

implicit in-place decrypt sounds insane i don't know who would write it that way

[glass jetty]

in place decode?
me neither, but that seems reasonable to decode on buffer, and just return whatever auth tag valid or not

BUT

it work when i decode and fail

and then decode with valid ciphertext

even when i decoded only once

tried*

[split steppe]

yes because it modified your source buffer

the source buffer no longer contains a valid decryptable message if it succeeds, because of that api

[glass jetty]

so, apparently this api modify buffer after decode, or something like this

i not see why it is it

since owning api (that return to you some vector), create vector, and use inplace method on it

i avoided allocation anyway, but i not understand api

also

encrypt_with_backend

it is template hell

i not found implementation without docs

[split steppe]

??? i don't understand what you're saying, did you write that api?

[glass jetty]

idk how it even looks

[glass jetty]

no, it is rust crypto aes

[split steppe]

that's not what i'm talking about, who wrote the packet api, that's not part of the crypto package

[glass jetty]

so, this thing work
not %2 amount of failed decrypt calls

[split steppe]

are you vibecoding this

i explained why it fails

[glass jetty]

packet api is mine, and i call only in_place that is mutable

[glass jetty]

no fuck
ai offered me using 12byte nonce for ctr aes

[split steppe]

okay, so you understand that inplace decrypt will destroy your encrypted source data

after a successful decryption

[fickle rain]

GPU is trash, but I guess good enough for 200€

[split steppe]

that's a nice system for 200

[fickle rain]

I guess is okay machine for running bunch of low power crap too

Can even put a 5800X or summat in there

[split steppe]

am4 system, good psu, enough ram

can still upgrade

[glass jetty]

-# nope,
why it should destroy data anyhow? supposedly api has only provided buffer, it is normal to assume that cipher will be applied to it, and returned only whatever auth tag valid or not

[split steppe]

do you understand what in place means?

[glass jetty]

it means literally in place; why would it use additional buffer if it can just not

[split steppe]

do you also understand what mutable means

[glass jetty]

are you joking rn?

[split steppe]

you are passing it the encrypted data buffer as mutable, in_place modifies the buffer, your data is overwritten by plaintext

doesn't matter what you return, you modified the buffer you passed in with in_place

[glass jetty]

there nothing about it in comments

about additional buffer or special behavior on failure or whatever

[split steppe]

😐

[glass jetty]

have to read docs/source
but when i was without internet, i not found encrypt_with_backend anywhere
so probably wouldnt find decrypt either

it is literally not match anything in lsp find references

[split steppe]

fuck it, just add .clone() to the buffer you pass into your from_encrypted

there i fixed it for you

[glass jetty]

but it seems like it is not overrides, when auth tag is invalid
that means api use additional buffer

[glass jetty]

why
what is it even supposed to do here lol

there no fix, nothing broken, just api work in weird way

[split steppe]

clones your buffer so you dont destroy the original on a successful decrypt

it doesnt work in a weird way, you just don't understand what it does

[glass jetty]

except that i overrided ciphertext with 0 instead of saving state initially

[glass jetty]

api not break buffer on decrypt

when it fail

[trim valve]

what

[split steppe]

yes because it validates first and then decrypts if it's valid

[glass jetty]

apparently buffer just not changed at all, when it fail

[glass jetty]

how it validate? isnt auth tag calculated on whole data during entire decryption process?

aes is just xor

[split steppe]

there's so much wrong with your assumptions about how the cryptography you are using works, that i can't really help you understand right now

either read on what aes and gcm does and the crypto api you're using, or understand that your usage will replace the source buffer with plaintext on success, so work with it accordingly

[glass jetty]

integrity by mac calculating on not decrypted data is against what i understand for sure

i implemented custom mac once (for custom not for real use cipher), and i used entire decryption process to get result, would be surprise if it can be done other way

[fickle rain]

Yoooo free money!!!!

@rare bridge

[split steppe]

poor guy

[obsidian mantle]

It feels like this started happening more frequently

[opaque sigil]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/ANGLE-Merges-Wayland I'm a bit confused, I was under the impression they already supported Wayland

[split steppe]

man was so active

[obsidian mantle]

Someone abuses mythos to break swarm accounts

[opaque sigil]

it comes and goes in waves

[split steppe]

people just want some free cash

[sick owl]

@silent cloak I changed my mind its pretty bad once you have a gun to occlude things

[opaque sigil]

lossless scaling is great for older single player controller games

[rigid snow]

give

i want

[tender river]

i have just the mr beast crypto casino for you

[rigid snow]

[trim valve]

wrrr

spent a bit writing some code

only to remember that once again I have been foiled by my own laziness

I really need to finishs moving my entire pc to flakes

(currently blocked by rewriting my nix config, which is so good for procrastinating)

[kind nimbus]

Where ?

[fickle rain]

Unfortunately the free money advertisement is gone now

The mods are too greedy

[kind nimbus]

Oh what a shame

[idle dune]

Also if your on a limited budget getting extra frames by getting a older GPU to offload the frame gen to

[warped narwhal]

AI bros of #programming, if I had a list of thousands of discord messages that I've sent, how would I go about fine tuning a model so that it speaks like me, all the tutorials I've found is for cuda and I'm on an rx 6800xt. The model will be used for an afk bot that will respond on my behalf so it doesn't need to mimic my behaviour, just the way that I speak.

Also if you have a model you recommend that would be great.

[warped narwhal]

I remember hearing about someone getting x4 framegen ages ago, because they had a 40 series gpu doing 1 set of framegen, but then had an amd card doing fsr framegen on that output and then dlss framegen on that frame again.

[opaque sigil]

you can do x20 framegen

surely a good idea

[idle dune]

You can do it

[warped narwhal]

Input latency go brrrrrrrrr

[idle dune]

It looks like a DMT drug trip

[warped narwhal]

How would you know what that looks like?

[idle dune]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BlcWQ9L2VfOFO

Your games turn into this

[idle dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDvfIbRIb3U My favorite doomposting channel did a good video on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCKbt8hBYAo

[kind nimbus]

Oh it probably was a legitimate account

Something like this happened even to me some time ago

I just accepted a friend request on discord and that was enough to get victim of a token grabber. Next thing that happened is that a similar spam message got sent to every server and every channel i was in. And i did not even do anything.

Chances are high that this guy is actually innocent.

[jovial remnant]

Can't help with the part about running the training on AMD, but in regards fine tuning one of the simplest methods would be getting pairs of inputs and completions for the model to generate, that way the model gets the best context on how to respond to stuff like you. But if you want to train only on your data alone, then I guess you'd have to have examples be entirely masked for completion in training and you'd use a custom/modified trainer (idk if there are any that doesn't assume default shape of turn taking with input and model output).

[idle dune]

I have had the dumb as shit idea of buying old 10 seres and rx 4/500 gpus ot see what kinda performance you cna get with like

Dual GT 1030 GDDR5s

[amber fractal]

Obviously a render, the animation is good but too organised in my opinion 5/10

[opaque wharf]

Dual GPU does not worth the hassle

[opaque wharf]

MAC is just a way for you to authenticate a message. So kinda like making sure you know the data comes from the source you know

[opaque sigil]

run it through sha256 and you have your (h)mac and done

this is a lie actually, hashing itself is not enough

[opaque wharf]

Nope. MAC implies you have a shared secret

[opaque sigil]

fine, then xor it once after hashing

[opaque wharf]

[rancid ore]

hmm.
It looks like those hacked accounts might have something to do with cheats?

[opaque sigil]

i forgot the couple properties a secure mac system has to hold

[opaque wharf]

It happens. Crypto system is... a lot to take in sometimes

[opaque sigil]

i barely passed cryptography

[wispy pike]

I toasted cryptography, and ate it

it was yummy

what are you all talking about

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1425445907586879530/1507983441893789827/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_1.gif

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-no-disagree-bunny-cute-rabbit-gif-6811786233356175857

[rigid snow]

‼️

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-surprise-gif-12197098

[olive sable]

[kind nimbus]

Jinja2 templating is oftentimes dangerous if not sanitized properly

[opaque wharf]

Every templating is

Also, man I wish OCB were the common mode of operation instead of GCM

[kind nimbus]

and this is why it's important to sanitize any user inputs flowing into templating engines lol

RCE is a piece of cake from here on

[fickle rain]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wSLP1tg5NK9LblUIyqTq3H5rUqYobV-4rzQ8G-qXCoc/edit?tab=t.0

JAGS (04:51): I'm so glad that didn't happen. Ghidra is a wonderful thing for the people who didn't have access — I'm happy for them. But I don't ever want to fucking use Ghidra. I would like to spend the rest of my life without ever having to use Ghidra. Java — I don't want to use that shit. I don't want to figure out the 17 different screens I need to click on, because that's how it was built up by a bunch of contractors over two decades. It's wonderful — but I'd like to never have to use it, please.
Jordan (05:33): They dropped two clicks — it used to be 13 from literally launching it to looking at main. I counted, and it's down to like 11 now because the file-open got a little better. It's a product built for long-term reverse engineering: you're inside the NSA working on a target for years, decades of reverse engineering. For 'I just want to look at a thing quickly,' it's not what it was built for. I'm glad it exists in many ways — it's good for the community. Radare was the previous tool of choice, the only open-source tool, really.

Audible chuckle

[kind nimbus]

[wispy pike]

god fucking damn it...

can't find a way to install the library either, doing this via remote terminal

[opaque sigil]

note to self: do not run git filter-repo when you have unstaged changes

nothing important lost thankfully

[glass flower]

i once lost a whole repo with my filter git nonesense...

2 weeks before the deadline..

i was trying to filter out git lfs files from my git history so i can back up the repo to github... i didn't have enough disk space to duplicate the repo.. so i just did it raw on the original only version of the repo i had

[opaque sigil]

[glass flower]

i exported the project a few days before and was able to recover the assets that way. the code i had to recover using vscode's timeline feature did you guys know it keeps track of every change you ever do? even if you delete the file? the files still exist

[kind fable]

git filter repo good to fake that you did work earlier or later than you did

[opaque sigil]

reflog my beloved

though its ui is atrocious

[kind fable]

I have git tree

[opaque sigil]

but that's the git cli for you i guess

[kind fable]

It's my alias to git log graph shit

Forgor how much params i use

[glass flower]

i just use lazygit nowadays

[kind fable]

But way too much

[opaque sigil]

i would use gitbutler for everything but they're still working on support for a workflow without branches, any day now

[opaque wharf]

I wish git would have a better submodule worflow so monorepo is not a thing

[glass flower]

submodules really are just eh... i don't like working with them either

[idle dune]

It is worth it kinda. If you have a low or mid end system, then getting a newer used gpu, and using your curren one as the frame renderer. You got 2-3x the frames and minimal latency increases. It just a bitch to setup sometimes.

[opaque wharf]

Exactly. If their ergonomics were better we wouldn't need package management

[glass flower]

but aren't package managers just the better ergonomics in the end?

[opaque wharf]

And look at how many security issues it has caused

[glass flower]

i mean... all rust is really doing is just pulling the source code and then building it with your project. just like a git submodule would

the same would have happened if they were on github and we all just used submodules

[opaque wharf]

Yeah but it is too opaque if you need to vendor a patch

[kind fable]

Hasn't gitbutler succombed to the we wanna make a product for AI and not for humans anymore ?

[kind fable]

They fucking sucks so bad

[glass flower]

it is indeed a bit opaque. but the technicallity is basically the same

[opaque wharf]

Yes, now you should try to apply a patch first before building using package manager

[glass flower]

the worm would just publish new git versions and people would pull those submodules intead of cargo or npm packages

[glass flower]

i just fork the project. since 90% of rust things are open source anyway on github

[opaque wharf]

I doubt signed commit can be replicated easily by just authentication

[glass flower]

and then we are back to submodule

[kind fable]

Too good ergonomics make it back
Imo Java is just at the right place
It's hard enough that it's annoying and you consider things
But it's easy enough that it's doable and you don't need to just vendor stuff
I never have a dependency explosion in Java in fact it's quite the opposite
I'll just have the least i can while reaching for things that kinda really need one

[opaque wharf]

That's exactly the issue. Why should you need to fork a project to make a one time patch

[kind fable]

build.rs 🤦
No install scripts we said

[glass flower]

because even just adding the patch is technically a fork

[kind fable]

You should PR it instead

[opaque wharf]

That's true. But then vendoring it is harder to track

[kind fable]

Or send patches

Talk is cheap

[glass flower]

build.rs is the most stupidest thing ever why does it even exist... or rather why is it enabled by default.. so dumb

[opaque wharf]

The patch may not align with the upstream view

[kind fable]

Then make your own project or maintain a downstream

[idle dune]

I fell for a phishing facebook account grabber email

[glass flower]

[opaque wharf]

Not worth it. One of the OPAQUE authentication library only needs a simple patch where they don't embed the fucking WASM build as base64

[opaque sigil]

would be news to me, they haven't really added much AI related stuff beyond the commit msg generation and their weird claude code integration that exists for some reason

[glass flower]

their whole website is all about AI

[kind fable]

Tbh maintaing downstream with the right tools is easy
Just do not for the love of god use merge

[idle dune]

Its a burner account they won't get anyhting useful. What will they get? Some anime memes and my marketplace conversations?

[kind fable]

Merge when maintaining a soft-fork is evil

[opaque wharf]

It is easy BUT as I said, it is not worth it for one off patch like I mentioned

[kind fable]

A soft-fork should only ever use rebase and git rerere

[opaque wharf]

Or when I change the crypto suite of upstream

[kind fable]

Is it tho

[kind fable]

You don't need a patch for that unless downstream is badly done

[opaque sigil]

is it? the parallel branches stuff lends itself quite well to agents but is still very useful for humans

[kind fable]

It should take in an iface and you should supply what you want

[opaque wharf]

It is not. Forking a repo just to change one file is not worth it IMHO. It could be just a .patch file

[glass flower]

i forked a RSS kde widget today actually. i took the easy base and added new stuff to it to make it work better for my usecase

[kind fable]

Except that this patch file will get an history over time

A history tied to the upstream repo

[opaque wharf]

Well, the change is straightforward. Between stable crypto and noble. I already used noble but upstream uses stable

[opaque sigil]

patch for a specific commit

[glass flower]

[kind fable]

Unless it's really dumb and in that case PR to the upstream a change to use an interface and use that interface in your code

[kind fable]

Then PR an interface because in that case they should be using one

[opaque wharf]

It does not align with upstream

[kind fable]

You shall inject your crypto library into it

[opaque sigil]

that's far from the entire website though

[kind fable]

Then upstream is arguably bad and you shall fork it

[opaque wharf]

And no, I will not maintain a code

[glass flower]

its about 70% that contains AI. there isn't a lot to the website all in all

[kind fable]

I liked the idea but kinda went too hard on AI from what i heard

[opaque wharf]

I will not be a good maintainer for the forked project

[kind fable]

You should not, you should not hard fork, only soft-fork

Just maintain a downstream

[glass flower]

just fork it. for forking it. i have a bunch of forks i never use

[kind fable]

Also actually i'm looking into other system than git

Patch based

Because patched where the true ways

DARCS or smth like that seemed interesting

In the theory

[opaque sigil]

pijul

[glass flower]

i'm currently looking at gitbutler.. what makes it unique? compared to just github desktop or gitkraken?

[kind fable]

Wait no it wasn't darcs

[kind fable]

Parallel branches aka working on multiple branches merged into a virtual one

[glass flower]

i barely even use branches...

[kind fable]

I've heard that name

[opaque sigil]

the way they handle moving changes around is also quite nice but i don't remember how the other tools do this ngl

[kind fable]

That i read there
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Understanding_Darcs

[kind fable]

Sinner

[glass flower]

i just push to main

[opaque sigil]

just let me drag and drop

[glass flower]

[kind fable]

Bro works alone

[glass flower]

[opaque wharf]

Y'all are too easy to fork some dependency

[glass flower]

i worked on like 10 man teams. we all just pushed to main

[kind fable]

Pretty sure you can cherry pick in github desktop with drag and drop

[opaque sigil]

individual hunks too?

[kind fable]

Tbh i don't get dependencies

Like i don't use

[glass flower]

the only time i use branches is when i need to just test something out or i have an idea for a feature or a rework etc.

[kind fable]

Cause i don't Web dev

Cause Web dev is malware

[opaque wharf]

Forking it means vendoring it and keeping up with upstream. While maintaining patch on your own project makes it clear that you do not intend to vendor it

[opaque sigil]

i've grown to appreciate the way meson subprojects work

[kind fable]

Me when i just see a message whne repo change version do quick git pull, rebase my custom branch on top of it and push

Done in one command

[opaque wharf]

Then even more so on native as adding deps may make or break your apps. Especially if you compile it for specific version

[hard delta]

we had per-ticket branches, a dev branch, an "old version main" and a main

[kind fable]

And when it doesn't then i edit the patch, update the meta branch keeping track of the patch evolution and still in one command

[hard delta]

i never pushed to main. mostly merged. sometimes force pushed

older colleagues never getting good at git

[kind fable]

You shall not use dependencies unless truly necessary is my mantra

[opaque wharf]

Now imagine if we use submodule and their ergonomic is not shit. Everything is done in the same repo

[opaque sigil]

working with the code from several year old cuda projects does mean a lot of patching to make it work with newer versions tbf

[kind fable]

Works quite well

[kind fable]

I mean the idea is good except that the way submodules exist just cannot work as it

It's just horrible dealing with them

Vendoring is unironically the better git submodule

[opaque wharf]

Exactly why I complained I wish submodules are more ergonomic

So we don't have to happily fork for every single small changes that we need to a deps

[kind fable]

They can't really be

[opaque sigil]

one thing that bothers me with vendoring is that it's often very hard to figure out wtf you changed or if you changed anything at all

[kind fable]

That's why you should not make changes to the vendored version

You should instead add a patch on top of it

[opaque sigil]

[kind fable]

And also keep track of what commit is that vendor

[opaque wharf]

See?

[kind fable]

And also use git rerere

[kind fable]

Oh no i don't mean a patch file

I mean a patch commit

[kind fable]

Just change the code

But not in the same commit

[opaque wharf]

[kind fable]

And then when you just move that commit and rebase it after pulling in the new changes git rerere will fix shit for you

[opaque sigil]

why would you make people search the history over just having the changes in a file

[kind fable]

Because it's way more convenient

[opaque wharf]

I bet it would have been easier if you just have patch directory on your project repo, and the submodules is stored on vendor directory

[opaque sigil]

all roads lead to meson subprojects

[kind fable]

But then you need to apply patch each time you build

Which is bad and useless

Git's whole point is to track changes

[opaque wharf]

I'd argue forking is even worse

[kind fable]

so why keep a patch file instead of committing it

I swear i'm not crazy

After having to maintain soft-forks cause i disagreed with upstream i just started finding "simple" solutions

[hard delta]

all roads diverge into many ways of doing things that cause chaos and bloat and suffering

[opaque sigil]

i'd say if you need major changes then just vendoring makes sense

[opaque wharf]

Correct

[opaque sigil]

but for simple patches i'd personally rather just commit the patch file than the entire dependency

[opaque wharf]

I have no qualms with forking and vendoring

[opaque sigil]

patching is virtually free anyway

[kind fable]

Anyway you should not have dependencies anyway

Just put that left-pad function in your own code

And use a language with a better std

[opaque sigil]

unfortunately a lot of useful software is written in languages with no/shitty standard libraries

can't really do much about that

[kind fable]

Because we're all xy'ing here, the initial problem has always been the language was missing something

[opaque sigil]

c++29 is going to solve all problems trust

[kind fable]

That's why i like Java
It's arguably not the best, but it has dam good thing in the std

[kind fable]

Once C29 drop i'm not using C++ anymore cause C will get defer so i don't have to use goto error anymore

[opaque sigil]

is this where im supposed to sell you zig now

[kind fable]

No i'm not a fan of zig

Sorry

Nor rust

They both have cool concepts but not a fan of the languages for different reasons

I really just like C no offense to others

[opaque wharf]

The language is missing path planning std algorithm

Or bloom filter

Or argon2id

Or TLS ciphersuite

[opaque sigil]

random little fun fact, the cargo lockfile can contain duplicate entries and cargo vendor understandably loses its mind over it
just remembered

this used to cause a bunch of problems when building gitbutler with nix but seems like they fixed it upstream by now

[opaque wharf]

[opaque sigil]

iirc the specific issue was that they were using git dependencies for gitoxide but something also depended on it through crates.io (same version and everything)

so it didn't know which one to pick

[kind fable]

Do not pick go back to assembly or you can't do that

I miss danidev too much, i know he dropped banger game but i miss vids about karlson and milk

[opaque wharf]

In other news, cuda now support writing the kernel using rust via cuda oxide

[kind nimbus]

Is the Nvidia A2 a good bang for the buck for LLMs?

[nocturne olive]

Depends on how cheap you can get it obviously

It has very, VERY tiny compute though, it's apparently comparable to a GTX 780

[kind nimbus]

oh i just found one for 495€

[nocturne olive]

Not worth

If you can get one, V100 SXM with a PCIe adapter probably better value

[opaque wharf]

Ain't no way it is worth that much

[kind nimbus]

a friend is looking for a gpu to run 20-30 b llm models for max 600-700€

[nocturne olive]

Get 7900 XTX from SamVanTriangle for around 650

24GB VRAM will be plenty for a 20-30B range model

[kind nimbus]

Apparently he can't put in a gpu that needs power from the power supply because the power supply has no more pcie connectors lol

In that case idk if that even makes any sense. Or he needs to get a new power supply first...

[nocturne olive]

Well you're out of luck then, no LLMs for you

As far as I'm aware, there is no 24GB VRAM GPU that does not require auxiliary power connectors

I am apparently correct

[kind nimbus]

oh well

[nocturne olive]

Get a PSU with more PCIe or adapt a CPU power into PCIe power, then try again

[opaque sigil]

they're missing a lot at the moment but hopefully that'll change over time so I can fully abandon c++

[fickle rain]

Picking it up on Thursday BTW
The owner made the nice gesture of installing fresh Windows 11 on it (which is obviously being wiped)

IG is good enough machine for having coding agent sit in it

Maybe SSH via phone to tell "ok go do that" sometimes

[opaque sigil]

nvidia's L4 does but it's expensive af

[nocturne olive]

[opaque sigil]

24G of vram without a PCIe power connector

also TIL there's an sff version of the rtx 4000 ada that falls under this too sort of but 20G of memory

I'm sure amd has some obscure gpus like the l4 too but I don't feel like looking into that

not that it matters, they should just get a new psu

[nocturne olive]

[olive sable]

Do the m40 or p40 use external power? They're ass but they're 24gb of ass

[opaque sigil]

sure do, they're inefficient af after all

it's here

[patent shard]

M40 is a 980 ti with 9% more SMs
it's not going to run on slot power

P40 is a 1080 ti with 7% more SMs

[sick owl]

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FixupX · May 25, 2026, 3:39 PM

HOLY

[opaque sigil]

looks like the answer is zokor, funky name

[teal cipher]

I took codex version of chatgpt 5.5 to spin and now I have this game project that is roguelite / roguelike card game lol https://puu.sh/KNBrN/e59b5f1a7a.png

[torn knoll]

Hello everone I am having a strange issue with my GPU, I have a NVIDIA 3050 with the most recent driver update installed, yet the game Forza Horizon 6 refuses to use the card it seems, the game will start at 90% usage and 75FPS but over about 15 minutes it will go down to less than 30% GPU usage and will get less than 30 FPS. I really dont understand whats happening and when I look in task manager nothing is hot infact, my GPU wont go above 50C, any ideas?

[teal cipher]

usual suspects would be... driver compatibility issue (they get new bugs and stuff) or card being faulty

[torn knoll]

my other games work perfectly tho

its just an issue with FH6

[teal cipher]

if you can play really heavy to system game for hours without performance issues then it's probably not a card... if it utilizes same fancy features anyway

it could be bug with the game or driver

[torn knoll]

I can run beamNG at 60 FPS and that game is quite taxing so I'm hoping its just Forza's optimization feature killing my frames and a update will fix it soon but I'm not sure

I dont think its driver issue because I had the same issues with my old drivers before updating to the new ones

[dusky jackal]

CLORD IS A PROGRAMMER?????

[kind nimbus]

Damn it really is expensive

[teal cipher]

I used to be really passionate about programming back in the day but it was like visual basic, qbasic, basic... I like to design games and my coding knowledge from those days is really outdated XD

anyway, the game is called "Spring Neko Crystal Heists"... I made a page for it over that itchio place... I gave the game soundtrack

[young plover]

I haven't noticed a problem like that, but FH6 does have some graphics API usage bugs that proton/DXVK need a workaround for.

[true hemlock]

what power supply

[jagged turtle]

damn, gpt 5.5 codex made that look good for how basic the designs felt

[young plover]

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/9789
https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/pull/3033

[true hemlock]

check with gpu-z for also something like memory temp and hot spots

[young plover]

Would be nice if the devs fixed their game

[true hemlock]

find it funny that agent loops only has 2 possible path. either spewing up complete existential crisis nonsense in the end or spew out some kind of these new solutions (well, formal mathematical definition/solution) to some arbitrary problems

apparently was solved, just formalized

[teal cipher]

chatgpt used to struggle code anything competently and stuff... codex chatgpt 5.5 barely makes mistakes... issues have mainly been pointing out some improvements so stuff like how much armor playable character has isn't mentioned in two places of the interface as it's redundant, etc...

[jagged turtle]

yeah that's ai for you

[young plover]

new emoji drop
https://www.unicode.org/emoji/charts-18.0/emoji-released.html

this will be a fine addition to my collection

I need alternatives to and for Teams at work. So far 🫠 and 🙃 have been filling that role.

[torn knoll]

ok so update, it seems all I've had to do is turn off my pc's bluetooth and now the games runs at 70+ FPS constantly

no clue how bluetooth was the cause but yea thats what everyone was saying and sure enough

[jagged turtle]

well bluetooth is like wifi

but not as optimized because not everyone uses bluetooth

[torn knoll]

you think it would be optimized for the pc version when the game specifically tells you to get a controller for a better experience

[young plover]

bluetooth sucks because the max bandwidth is <2 mbps, it's the lowest priority 2.4 GHz traffic, and it needs to constantly frequency hop. No idea why it would cause performance issues in a game though.

[torn knoll]

yea this is the first game where I've had this kind of issue but many others have had a similar issue to me and for somereason bluetooth seems to be the reason why my game was slow

thank yall for the help!

[olive sable]

Vram?

Oh

Bluetooth????

What the fuck

[flint dome]

bluetooth is literally balkan witchcraft

[glass jetty]

what?

[olive sable]

My experiences with Bluetooth have been perfectly fine

Idk

[flint dome]

correction: belkan not balkan

my fault g

[flint dome]

you will then one day run into an extremely horrible and unexplainable issue all at once

[olive sable]

Nah

Im above that

[flint dome]

nobody is above the curse of the blue toothed wizard

[amber fractal]

I surely am

[stray dragon]

my experiences with bluetooth have been "why is the connection dying every few days" to "how did that change i made fix it" to "why is my connection dying every few days" to "oh the connection died again because the bluetooth drivers are stupid, time to unplug and replug the bluetooth antenna to fix it" and has stayed there for some inexplicable reason

nothing i tried after that ever fixed it and it's currently Good Enough™ so i just leave it be and it works mostly

still would absolutely avoid using it in the future because fuck bluetooth

[olive sable]

the only issues ive had with bluetooth were just bad wifi board

just replaced it

literally took 20min of troubleshooting

[stray dragon]

my board has bluetooth but only for windows 11 apparently

[flint dome]

@stray dragon surely if we sacrifice sam to the bluetooth monster all our issues will be gone because he seems to have no issues

[stray dragon]

and i do not feel like going through that whole process

[stray dragon]

true

works on his machine

maybe we can steal some of his powers

[amber fractal]

I think the luck in in the triangle necklace

[flint dome]

no will give it to bluetooth monster for better favors like better ping or permanent cheap deals for computer parts

much better than dealing with whatever the hell is bluetooth

[stray dragon]

permanent??? you ask for too much

[flint dome]

his luck is permanent too

law of equivalent exchange

[stray dragon]

even though both are permanent there is a great difference in the value of them

like how there is a difference between unlimited bacon but no more games, and games, unlimited games, but no more games

[flint dome]

then how about converting his specific charm in no bluetooth failure to a general purpose with 80% success rate at luck with computers in general

surely thats not too much to ask for

[stray dragon]

i think this will work

[olive sable]

works on my machine means everyone should just use my machine

[stray dragon]

i will go consult with the bluetooth monster

[olive sable]

im renting for 10 euro per hour

[stray dragon]

i'd rather deal with live human sacrifice and the aftermath associated with it than subscription fees

how dare you.

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

the only issues i have with bluetooth are just stale handshakes when i swap linux <-> windows cuz i cba to share the pairing keys between OS, so even tho they both are paired to the same headphone or something it'll not work with one since the headphone is expecting a different key from the same bluetooth device as previous

[olive sable]

im just using an AX210

works perfectly fine

[amber fractal]

I don't really have any bluetooh issues

[fast pagoda]

even with what i said above i dont have the issue most of the time since they haev so many pairing slots now that they just save 2 pairings

[amber fractal]

inclusing using my linux laptop as speakers for my android device which somehow is just baked in???

[olive sable]

the AX200 that came with my mobo has a manufacterers defect that makes it fail with environmental power-saving setting

[fast pagoda]

yeah my pc loves to show up as speakers for my phone

kinda annoying lmao

but working

[flint dome]

t we have more sacrifices t bring out the room of the souls of the damned

[olive sable]

i keep using the shortform of "environmental power-saving setting" by accident so i keep getting automodded

hi mods

[fast pagoda]

they dont want my soul, they kicked me out where you think icame from

[stray dragon]

finally, it's been 9 months since the last use of the room of the souls of the damned

[flint dome]

surely if the devil dont want you the heavens will be pleased with your head

[fast pagoda]

neither

[stray dragon]

wish we got more opportunities to use it

[flint dome]

highly unlikely it would be that case

[amber fractal]

strange, I've already been rejected once

[stray dragon]

but you know how it is finding proper sacrifices in this damn economy

[flint dome]

well this your more opportunities let's get going

[stray dragon]

on it

[fast pagoda]

never underestimate my capacity to annoy everyone everywhere all at once

[amber fractal]

can we sacrifice the mods?

[stray dragon]

the alter will be dusted and polished until it shines and the smell of blood will be almost removed

[flint dome]

you do realize the gods have a shorter temper and will be off with your neck the moment you annoy them too much

[amber fractal]

except the jester

[flint dome]

yeah and thats me not you

[amber fractal]

who will kill you on sight due to being more funny

[flint dome]

surely that is my problem not yours

and im not the one in that case being unfunny

[amber fractal]

[flint dome]

uhhh get the clorox and some cleaning acid too the stains dried too much

get some blacklight too

[amber fractal]

talking to person, mentions jester
looks at name

[stray dragon]

jester i've tried everything and the smell has never been fully removed

it's just one of the charms of the place

[flint dome]

we're sacrificing YOU (not the jester) NOT ME (actually the jester)

[flint dome]

fuck it man throw in some scented candles or some essential oils or something the summoned guy was complaining about the smell last time

said he'd tank our reviews or something

[stray dragon]

idiot

[amber fractal]

uhh sorry about that, I have been sacrificed so many times of my own volliation the gods are no longer allowing me to do so

[stray dragon]

we chopped his tongue off first i remember

can't have any of that

[flint dome]

bro that was the sacrifice not the devil we summoned

im talking about the guy who took the souls

[stray dragon]

ohhh THAT guy

we just killed him and offered his head to his nemesis

[flint dome]

you WHAT

[stray dragon]

no bad reviews

• it's a great trick to get the next guy immediately to owe you a huge favor

[flint dome]

bro are you the fucking reason there are hood wars in hell now

[stray dragon]

it's hell who gives a shit

[amber fractal]

they said the buff to the the invidual I gave was so powerful that they had to nerf me from constantly just using it as a permant buffing alter

[flint dome]

man fuck you mean who gives a shit we do our business there

[flint dome]

yeah but this time its not of your own volition

[stray dragon]

complain any more and i'll teach them what weaponized baby shark is next

[floral hawk]

What the fuck is going on here

lolz

[amber fractal]

Idk, they just made it so that I'm immune to all holy weapons

[flint dome]

we're summoning the devil to sacrifice some programming members

[stray dragon]

we're sacrificing triangle for better bluetooth

[stray dragon]

dumbass it goes in REVERSE

[flint dome]

who said anything about holy weapons

[stray dragon]

you sacrifice them to summon the demon

[fast pagoda]

Average low level programming discussion

[flint dome]

YES YES I KNOW but the normies dont know that shut it

[stray dragon]

fuck you're right

[fast pagoda]

So low level we're at the river styx

[floral hawk]

I finally gave Zero proper tool call/some self programming capabilities and the first thing she did was write a python script that launches a rick roll on youtube. She's truly mine.

[flint dome]

yo bro where did you put the razer laptop i gotta code the summon script

[stray dragon]

alternative link i hope

[stray dragon]

i sold it for gas money

you know how it is these days

[floral hawk]

I gave her the link, she asked for it.

[flint dome]

MAN THAT WAS THE ONLY LAPTOP FOR SUMMONING HELL

[floral hawk]

So she didnt surprise me, but the idea was hers.

[stray dragon]

buy a new one

[flint dome]

fine ill use my hinge problem laptop for now

[amber fractal]

do you have any idea how expensive the program is to even get any copy of???

even the pirates sell it for a profit

[flint dome]

I keep telling him he dont listen

[floral hawk]

Nani

[flint dome]

all he sees is the money we make

fuck where'd i put my boombox and cassette full of wh40k tapes

[stray dragon]

:)

[amber fractal]

I think somewhere in the summoning room maybe, as long as someone didn't misplace the key for the grand hall

[flint dome]

i knew your ass would do this so i cast clone on them to keep another copy

[stray dragon]

this "clone", what else can you cast it on

[flint dome]

no we lost that long ago we just took the door apart

[flint dome]

as long as its not too big and not currency or valuable because that needs a bigger sacrifice to unlock the spell for that

[stray dragon]

400oz gold bar?

[amber fractal]

I don't think there are any rules about valuables in terms of infomation, those gods have still not patched that exploit

[stray dragon]

oooooh

clever

[flint dome]

no like I said it cant be valuable it needs a sacrifice of a head of state

[amber fractal]

still can clone the 22TB drive of pirated softwares

no issue there

[flint dome]

the heavenly version isn't patched but hades fixed it long ago

as for info

yeah nobody patched that yet

[stray dragon]

why is there a heavenly version of clone anyways

[flint dome]

you could try cloning bitcoin

[amber fractal]

too many hashes, no point in trying, Can't randomize into a valid hash

[flint dome]

different network architecture

[amber fractal]

even if it is cloned it is effectly entangled anyways

[amber fractal]

Ah, for when you need to cross world lines and need to clone entire cities and other templates

wish we had templates

instead we can only exactly clone an object as it is

[glass jetty]

mac for gcm calculated over ciphertext; i thought it is cryptographically insecure...

[umbral wigeon]

🙏

🪣

[olive sable]

[glass jetty]

🔺❗~

[olive sable]

oh ye

apparently i never bought those optocouplers

so i bought them now

[proven merlin]

Hmmm thats why im now running proxmox with zfs on my main :D (yes im aware snapshots take storage

[umbral wigeon]

Rewrite it in luau

[proven merlin]

God damn message was old
My phone just scrolled for like a entire minute

Hi, im now in the now again, my phone decided that

[jagged turtle]

how to compile lua to wasm

apparently this is enough to fix my type issues... actually now that I think about it why did I not think of that sooner

[umbral wigeon]

Idk I'm not a web dev

[glass jetty]

nah, everything should be rewritten in rust

[glad path]

rewrite it in c++

[glad path]

fuck no

rust is a cult

change my mind

[glass jetty]

nothing should be rewritten in c++

[glad path]

c++ is fine

[glass jetty]

true but

fine is not enough

[glad path]

in fact

it's great

never had problems with it

[glass jetty]

safe rust is memory safe language
you still getting logic errors and blow up on any unsafe that violate contracts

but unlike c++ you have:

1. better stdlib
2. standard build system + crates ecosystem
3. unsafe keyword that highlight contracts
4. remind me what was fourth thing i was thinking of

i not remember actually

better stdlib and unsafe contracts > c++

only thing that c++ do better is generic coroutines

you just cant do non-standard coroutines in rust

[glass jetty]

small experience

also

you

are

not

banana

[glad path]

yes

[glass jetty]

ignore this ppl who want you to rewrite everything, that already good enough and work, in rust

but any new code, or complete rewrite, should be done in rust

[glad path]

eh

i like my c++ with python bindings

more like python with c++ bindings actually

[glass jetty]

there literally no reasons to use other programming language, except for maintaining previous code

[trim valve]

pyo3 for rust is actually quite nice

[glass jetty]

in 2026 you have everything you need

yeah surely native bindings exist
you not even have to do ffi

[opaque wharf]

Y'all speaking about sacrifice meanwhile this is Eid al adh where we actually sacrifice lamb and cows

[olive sable]

[proven merlin]

Rewrite in ANSI C, the only true compiled language. @glass jetty

[proven merlin]

Agree, it doesn't even have a compiler spec sheet afaik

And, ive yet to see a actual rust project that doesn't use .unwrap or spams unsafe

(and FilC exists and is just a quick mockup)

[jagged turtle]

claude sonnet 4.5 my goat helping me with some typescript typing stuff

[glass jetty]

bweeeeee

[glass jetty]

it is the part of language btw

[wheat blaze]

claude and vedal ai being the only useful ai i need

one for code the other for fun

[faint sandal]

what are you doing claude

[olive sable]

i feel like it wasnt even thaaaat bad

[wheat blaze]

like neuro, low latency causing it to spit out stupid stuff

[jagged turtle]

lmao

[molten island]

😭

[jagged turtle]

[sage crag]

its definitely faster to convert it to binary and then do a right shift of 20

[upbeat cradle]

I have no idea what study mode is but....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nx_zDqrMG8c

[hard delta]

that's some quality shitposting m8
or i'm happy for you
or i'm sorry that happened

[flint dome]

yeah I know my friend gonna give us some meals hes supposed to cook the meals and gift em but hes being lazy this year

[opaque wharf]

The alternative is giving the raw meat

[flint dome]

bro he wont even make it raw dude dont even wanna do the butcher work either

thing is going to be handed to us live

[opaque wharf]

Hey, you got to learn how to do it yourself

[flint dome]

my uncle had the misfortune of doing that when they once shipped a live goat to him out in the forest instead of rations while they were on an op

parachuted the damn thing into the field

[opaque wharf]

A goat experienced skydiving before a turtle. What a world we live in

[kind nimbus]

what a GOAT 🐐

[glass jetty]

me rn

getting headache trying to read tokio code while lsp cant provide support since he not see features being enabled at all
why i bother
why not just download tokio repository itself and enable them, surely it should make fucking lsp work

[glass flower]

can't you enable features in a .cargo file or something so your lsp knows what features to look for?

[opaque wharf]

Come on, do it. Fork the repo

[glass jetty]

without enabling features you cant use them

lsp just saying fuck you and spawning another PROCESS in another root (tokio root)
i can spawn like 100 rust analyzer processes this way

for each crate i have as dependency

[glass flower]

wtf

[glass jetty]

idk

[jagged turtle]

100 processes per dependency crate what?

[glass jetty]

id here is lsp server id, that nvim assign to lsp process

[glass jetty]

one lsp per one crate

[jagged turtle]

ah ok sounds more reasonable

[glass flower]

i just open my projects like normal and it then just works.

[rigid snow]

aaaaaaaa

[glass jetty]

what is best JUST screen recorder for arch kde wayland?

spectacle is not enough

[glass flower]

why is spectacle not enough?

[glass jetty]

cuz it only do screenshots?

[glass flower]

no it doesn't

i use it for video

[glass jetty]

it redirect to obs or whatever

[glass flower]

what

[glass jetty]

ok they implemented own backend i guess
i tried to use it long long time ago, and it offered me using several backend variants, one of which is obs

[glass flower]

i wish it would use obs tbh the mp4 backend they have is absolute garbage. i record it in vp9 and then convert it after saving automatically to mp4 to have decent quality

[wheat blaze]

https://youtu.be/Zjl2vmy02As?si=ulvfiV_lInzLQUA
so real

[true hemlock]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48291230

naves

Nvidia Vera CPU Benchmarks: Olympus Cores Delivering Great Performance

Hacker News · May 27, 2026, 8:15 AM

These benchmarks have been specifically approved by NVIDIA, as being workloads where Vera is competitive. It was forbidden to publish other benchmarks. There are plenty of other benchmarks, especially for scientific/technical computing, where Vera would not be competitive with x86 CPUs

how many times does nvidia have to be sus

[glass jetty]

they literally blocking github rn btw
50kb without vpn
1mb with vpn

[true hemlock]

also that means the nvidia vera cpu are shit at hpc

i guess they're meant to spend the rest of their lives feeding rubin's tensor

[glass jetty]

@glass flower

and they both handle file change/ file save events

i had up to 5 same msgs at some point

usually its 3/4
cuz i use nvim as editor with lsp support, not as full ide (i mean i usually not have 4 tabs with 6 split each)

[glass flower]

i also use nvim

but also isn't this expected behaviour? they are different crates they can't share the same diagnostic info

[glass jetty]

when you open tokio from your crate

it looks like this

1 moment

[glass flower]

i opened my own project and then a bevy crate..

they share the same instance

[glass flower]

rust shares all the instances... but ofcourse copilot starts a new one each time

[glass jetty]

why you use copilot

vibe coder

[glass flower]

the autocomplete and next edit suggestions

i used to use copilet before agents and chats were even a thing

[rigid snow]

i remember

[quick thicket]

Hi

[rigid snow]

[glass flower]

i was in the closed beta

[glass flower]

[glass jetty]

old vibe coder

even worse

[rigid snow]

[wheat blaze]

I just use Claude free model

[glass flower]

wait i see a difference... why is your rust analyzer setting the root directory. instead of using workspaces?

[rigid snow]

that's not what vibecoding means

[glass flower]

vibecoding has not existed and wasn't even a term when i started using AI

[glass jetty]

i used same as from original docs/guide
https://charaverk.online/git/CharaVerKys/nvim/src/branch/master/lsp/rust_a.lua

[glass flower]

why not use the nvim-lspconfig one? https://github.com/neovim/nvim-lspconfig/blob/master/lsp/rust_analyzer.lua

[glass jetty]

because it is plugin?

[glass flower]

its a collection of settings

you can just copy the single file

also whats wrong with plugins

[glass jetty]

being plugins?

[wheat blaze]

What are u guys building

[wheat blaze]

Why would someone use neo vim over other ide?

[glass flower]

customizibility for me. it just flows nice

[wheat blaze]

I’m just used to vs code + GitHub copilot
At most Claude chat bot on the side

Like how u would use ChatGPT

[glass jetty]

tui + light + free + opensource + lua + big userbase

• possible c bindings

• i understand how it works, well, partially, at least

and its all assuming by ide you mean something that can have vim-like movement

[glass jetty]

another vibe coder.

[glass flower]

[wheat blaze]

What tua and lua

[glass jetty]

its over

chat

its over

[glass flower]

[wheat blaze]

Whats vin like

[glass flower]

you move your cursor using hjkl instead of a mouse

[wheat blaze]

The other thing like nano?

[wheat blaze]

Yep the text editor in terminal I see

[glass jetty]

w/na$0kjhlKJeEbW

[glass flower]

correct vim/neovim is in the terminal

[wheat blaze]

The future of coding in Gen Alpha is in good hands imo

[kind nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-neuro-sama-neuro-3d-neurover-so-neurover-gif-731461430504913480

[wheat blaze]

Neuro will be our next Claude

Wait and see

[glass flower]

Gen Alpha is gonna be completely screwed

[wheat blaze]

Soon neuro will code better than my Claude

[glass jetty]

ts so over
we are cooked
programming is dead
but not because of ai being good

[wheat blaze]

I wonder how will millennials Gen X and Gen Z be able to hack Gen Alpha system

[kind nimbus]

Neuro isn't even years close to Claude opus in terms of intelligence what are you talking about ?

[wheat blaze]

Joking

[wheat blaze]

I don’t even use that
I use free model lol

[glass flower]

correct. neuro is better

[wheat blaze]

On my own pc

[wheat blaze]

Tui and Lua is what

[glass jetty]

ask your stupid ai

i hate ai

[glass flower]

[kind nimbus]

The free tier sucks anyway

[wheat blaze]

Enough to build stuff to impress ppl

[wheat blaze]

At least it can run the stuff I want

Wait isn’t tui just cli

[glass flower]

terminal ui

[wheat blaze]

Oh gui

[kind nimbus]

[wheat blaze]

U guys use gui on terminal? Called tui?

[glass jetty]

not.

[glass jetty]

no

[wheat blaze]

Ok lua is just another language that neo uses

[glass jetty]

no

[kind nimbus]

TUI = Terminal UI (Stuff like ncurses) != GUI

[glass jetty]

no

[kind nimbus]

Neo?

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-reeves-the-matrix-neo-gif-9474730815536901824

[wheat blaze]

Lol I guess I don't need to bother

[glass jetty]

btw

i found

handle for tokio is thread local

it is not waker data
-# as it should not be rawwaker data

[wheat blaze]

I can do cli all day as long Claude/Gemini/open ai is available

[glass jetty]

only took several jumps with lsp

[glass jetty]

you are not

you cant rewrite this in rust and make it work
it is absolutely ill designed and ill programmed
but it works 3 month from now without any errors
https://charaverk.online/git/CharaVerKys/vpverk
give your ai task to rewrite this, and try to run

and see if it even can do basic socket stuff

and its all is cli.

[kind nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1488900980253921320/1488901375223136297/neurogta.gif

[hard delta]

have you guys ever tried deleting your

lock screen wallpaper chache on windows 11

[wheat blaze]

This is what you guys call keep errors in code that pops up months later so ppl can't fire u?

[kind nimbus]

Who in their right mind uses Windows 11

[hard delta]

it's like an exam question of "how do you delete windows system files and convince windows to do it"

[glass jetty]

i currently rewrite it in rust https://charaverk.online/git/CharaVerKys/vpverst
cut i planned full rewrite anyway (using this wrapper, that, now, i probably will never use actually) https://charaverk.online/git/CharaVerKys/ats_socket

[glass jetty]

not use windows

best answer

[kind nimbus]

What even is vpverk ?

[hard delta]

why rewrite when you could just use somethinge else

[glass jetty]

what are you even saying? i just said it work without ANY issue for 3 month of daily use 18/7

[glass jetty]

like what for example?

[hard delta]

idk macbook

[glass jetty]

isnt it in readme? or i not created it?

[glass flower]

tailscale

[glass jetty]

what?

[glass jetty]

what?

[hard delta]

bro confused by his own pattern 2 minutes later smh

[glass flower]

isn't it a vpn tunnel?

[kind nimbus]

There is no readme and no docs lmao

[glass flower]

there isn't a readme

i just went by the description

[kind nimbus]

Ah description says

bare socket vpn via tun

[glass jetty]

ah right
cuz this is fucked up
i created code, made it work, and use it
no statistics, no passwords

wait rust rewrite